Fantasy Football Daily - Week 3 Injury Roundup Podcast

Episode Date: September 24, 2022

Dr. Edwin Porras (@FBInjuryDoc) and Graham Barfield (@GrahamBarfield) recap notable statuses, practice reports, and more ahead of Week 3 Sunday. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time for the Fantasy Points podcast, brought to you by FantasyPoints.com. Top level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room, with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. Welcome back to the Fantasy Points podcast. I am Graham Bardfield. I'm a co-owner here at Fantasy Points, and I'm also the most washed 28-year-old that you will ever meet. Edwin, every day we do this pod, you always are like trying to tell me like, about all the goings on on the internet.

And I'm like so just not not with it. What's this deal with this corn kid? I was just asking Ashley about it too. And I still don't understand. It's gone. Somebody made a whole song about it, man. It's good. So there's this kid, right?

He comes in. They're interviewing him. You know, they're just doing like this funny, cute little interview. They go around interviewing kids. And this kid who like can't be any older than like maybe seven, eight years old. and just goes on and on about corn. And like he's being totally earnest. Like he's being totally serious.

And he just goes on and he's like, they're like, can you describe corn? And he goes, it's a big lump. And it has knobs. And it has the juice. And what did you say? When I tried it with butter, everything changed. So it's just, it's hard. It's not funny when you describe it.

But if you go and watch it, it's hysterical. Okay. Go watch it. I just got to get with it. So this guy is a big corn guy. I can only assume he's. a big member of big corn and the ethanol. Big corn and the ethanol.

I'm here to threaten his propaganda about corn and high fructose corn syrup. Get out of here, kid. I don't even know what you're about. Get out of here. All right. All right, man. I didn't think you're going to take that direction. The kid's like seven years old.

But we'll roll along. We'll roll along and we'll pretend like that didn't happen. I don't want you threatening a seven-year-old on your own podcast. Okay. Well, I mean, you threaten J.K. Dobbins routinely on this podcast. And I do, sir, I do not, Mr. J.K. Dobbins, if you're listening, and I know you probably are. I do not threaten anybody. Speaking of injuries, Graham, let's move away from Mr. J.K. Dobbins talking.

Let's talk about some week three injuries. Let's do it. You still there, everyone? Yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, you cut off. Sorry, I'll have been cut that out there. I'll make a note, 150. All right.

Three, two, one. Let's do it. Let's talk through some week three as we, I don't know, on the, why we open with corn with a corn man. I've got to get on TikTok. I mean, that's the thing. It's like, at the end of day, that's, that's what's going to happen. I just, I need to be, I need to have a life, Edwin.

That's the problem. But let's talk through some injuries. Let's talk through it all here. I think there's fewer big injury news this week, but there's still a lot to get to. And I'll start off the top with a couple of running backs that it seems like we're going to get back this week, one being Alvin Camara, just a one game, seems like just a one game of absence coming off his rib injury. At this point, it's just like a pain tolerance type of thing, right? Yeah, it's probably going to be something like that. If he still has any pain,

he'll probably get a pain shot. Understand that he's not highly volatile, like somebody, for example, Justin Herbert, who might try to come back, like Jerry Judy, who might try to come back after one week. It's going to be a little more volatile than usual for Alvin Camara. And so I would say, I think the best way to describe it is don't expect a ceiling game. probably from a touches perspective, right, or a usage perspective. But I think he can be fine. I think he can be somebody that's obviously you're, he's probably going to be active. And you definitely have to start him in almost every league, almost every league of every shape and size.

Just don't expect a big usage game. Gotcha. Yeah. Oh, well, you and I need them in diesel fuel, man. We're off to a, a rough start. Our $250,000 team is not looking, not looking like $250,000 team. It's going down the drain, isn't it? Yeah.

It must be the name. Hey, listen. I mean, diesel fuel has gotten me through plenty of times, but right now we need to summon up some diesel fuel strength here in week three to have an Alvin Camaro. Breakout game, man. Another running back I want to ask you about is James Connor, Cliff Kingsbury, like, not only is he a fake sharp, not only has he like stunted Kyler Murray's growth. Get it?

Stunted. I see what you did there. Yep. That's why they pay me the medium-sized box level. Not only has he done all of those things to us, but he continues to lie about his injuries. His injury report, the guys that are hurt on his team. James Conner is apparently a game-time decision. He practiced in some fashion this week, right?

I think he practiced and limited yesterday. Yes. Is he legitimate game-time call, or I mean, this is just James Connor, you know, dealing with chronic ankle issues, right? Yeah, I think this is just the James' Connor special sort of what you expected when you got him. This probably isn't even necessarily the worst case scenario. I do think based on his practice reports that he is going to be available to play. But, you know, the last time that he played through a game time decision, I'm relatively certain

it was a re-injury that happened. So you don't love that. But again, he's a guy that you sort of have to start. And Graham, I don't know if it's just me if I filtered him out on accident, but I don't even see him on the week three injury report that we that we have a common shared uh a common like doc with so i'm not entirely sure but i do know for a fact that he did practice yesterday in a limited fashion uh yeah you probably have to start him in most leagues uh he because of this lateral ankle sprain is at higher risk to re-injure the lateral ankle so this is a kind of a yucky situation all around and you're just going to have to you're just going to have to eat it this week You're just going to have to do it.

Yeah, I will say last week, Doreau Williams finally played a little bit. In week one, it was all, you know, Benjamin is like their backup changeup type to Connor. And then this past week, they played Derell quite a bit. So if Connor does miss, I think this will be some sort of gross, like two-man split with, you know, Williams probably getting the goal and stuff and, you know, getting most of the passing down work. So I still think both of them are great stashes for, you know, pretty much every league type. but yeah, I just don't think you can really trust either one of them this week. Let's keep it moving.

We'll talk through some receivers here. Both Michael Pittman and Gabriel Davis are supposed to be back this week. You nailed it last week with Pittman. You were kind of like, I kind of think he plays, but if he does, it'll only be a week. And you were right about that. Have you seen anything about Gabe Davis's injury? Do you know if it's a lower high ankle sprain or I don't haven't seen anything about it? So we don't have anything in particular that tips us off.

to what this injury is because it was in practice. There was a video of him today. And I, you know, I don't love to do this because videos are so sensitive. The last time I told you that a video didn't look good, it was James Robinson, and he's making me eat that every week of this 2020 season so far. He has not looked great. I mean, he has looked great, and I didn't think his practice videos look great. So I try not to do this often, but it was pretty evident on a video of Gabe Dave today that he was,

he like had to chop like 500 times to run this this comeback route. He was not going full speed. It just didn't look great because, and he has been limited in practice. So first, I'm going to defer a lot of my bills analysis to, he's another physical therapist. His name's Kyle.

And he runs the banged up bills account. So at banged up bills on Twitter, he's a fantastic follow for anything bills. He does what I do, but he does only bills and he does offense, defense. He does the whole deal. So he's followed them for, I mean, God, it's probably going on more than five years at this point.

He's done this for the bills. So he knows their tendencies. He knows what they do. This is what he had to say about Gabe Davis. Davis looks as though he will play, but don't expect a lot of production from him. His role may be limited to a certain packages or in the red zone to limit sprinting and cutting. Should not be your first or second option at wide receiver. So to me, that sounds like don't play Gabe Dave in cash.

And you might have, depending on how good your roster is, you might have other options that you would lean towards. Yeah. that's that's a little disappointing i've got davis and quite a long quite a few season long leads and yeah we've got a call we'll have a call to make on sunday mornings i that that's just kind of the way i'm playing it with davis this week as we'll see throughout the weekend hopefully we get some you know concrete news on on roll but that's certainly not a good well correct me if i'm wrong to graham but with a guy like davis i mean he just needs a one go route and he makes it worth the start right yeah it's true and i mean that's kind of the way he is in general

But, you know, anytime we get guys like, you know, like him that, you know, the go ball is their main, you know, their main source of points. Anytime they're dinged up either with an ankle or a hammy, like I just mentally just knock them down like 50% of expectation. That's kind of way I think of it. But yeah. So, yeah, we'll see on Davis this week. I mean, if regardless if Davis goes or not, I mean, this is just another smash bot for Stefan Diggs. his receiving prop is moving through like 81, 82, 83 and a half right now. It's near the top of the board.

I think he'll probably end up pretty close to Jefferson if Davis were to miss this week in just in terms of outlook. We'll keep it moving. I'm talking to another couple receivers here. Jerry Judy, he said a couple minutes before actually we got into the podcast, I saw a quote from one of Broncos beatwriters. I can't remember who, but said basically Judy expects to. play. We'll see. He's dealing with this like rib shoulder injury, couldn't return in the game that they

played last week against the Texans. Edwin, I mean, if he goes, it's kind of like the same thing as as Camero, right? It's more of just a pain tolerance. Probably can't make it a whole lot worse, but he, you know, if he gets hit in the wrong spot, he's going to be a great deal of pain. No, yeah, exactly. And the unfortunate reality is these guys on, on the defensive side of the ball know that. They know that he's struggling with the ribs issue. They ain't. they're going to probably be targeting it if he's out there. It's really tough to start somebody like Jerry Judy at this point because we essentially assume that Jerry Judy is in a very similar place that Alvin Camara was in the last week.

And we know Alvin Camara did not play in week two. That's essentially where Judy is not an exciting place to be if you're Jerry Judy. So I really hope that they give him another week, I'm sorry, to sort of get over this. But yeah, I mean, he's do not practice on Wednesday, do not practice on Thursday. That's typically not a very good sign. And even if he does go, again, all it takes is another hit. So very volatile, super volatile play Jared Judy is this week. Yeah, I actually wrote up Russell Wilson as a fade in my weak and advantage column.

I just, you know, Hackett's in over his head. Judy's banged up, man. Niners defense has been good. Granted, I get it. They played one game against fields. But, you know, this is a secondary in a defense in general that we're, you know, you know, shying away from. So I think this is a really rough spot here for Denver on Sunday night.

The line has moved. It completely flipped. It opened two and a half Broncos. It's now one and a half to two Niners everywhere. I think everybody's just getting on Hackett's a donkey steam. What's the wrong there, man? Geez. Dude, he is getting skewered here in the media, like just absolutely skewered.

I don't know, man. He's in over his head. Like, I, I've been following half. its career for a long time. I mean, he was the Jaguars O.C. back in, you know, 16, 17, 18, those Bortles teams. And, like, you know, they had a great defense, but there was nothing special about that offense whatsoever during those days. And then, you know, he goes and gets the, the job with Rogers and the floor. And I guess he's the next golden boy. But, man, I mean, it is, it's, it's been rough. It's been really, really rough watching Washington Broncos, man.

No, yeah, that's exactly, exactly what I, it just doesn't seem like, when you say in over, over his head is like, yeah, it definitely seems like that's a really good way to describe it. Well, it's just, it's not just the play calling issues. It's not just like, it's not just the game management stuff. It's like he's just not putting his personnel in a position to succeed. You know, like that's, I mean, bottom line, that's your number one job as a coach. And he can't, he's not doing anything well right now. And now he's got a really tough spot here. Niners, healthy, looking good. I'm really interested to see that game on Sunday night. But let's keep it moving.

We'll talk through some chargers issues right now. It looks like Justin Herbert's not going to play. This line cratered all afternoon. It was seven chargers yesterday, seven chargers this morning. And I think some people got some news that Herbert is not going to play. It started getting chased down. It's now down to chargers just by a field goal over the Jaguars. Total is also down from 47 to 44.

So, yeah, there's a lot of steam here that Herbert's not going to play. Not only will Herbert not play, I don't think Keenan Allen will play either dealing with this hamstring injury. If Herbert doesn't suit up and the Chargers are just going to go, like, let's just get our guys back. You know, healthy and we'll play Chase Daniel and just hope for the best this week against the Jags. But Justin Herbert, Edwin, not looking good dealing with a pretty painful rib injury. It's like a rib cartilaged hair. And then, you know, Keenan Allen's obviously dealing with the hamstring.

They're probably going to give him an extra week to get right as well, right? Well, Graham, this is where my career as a young injury analyst for NFL teams has taken a turn for the worst when I assume rational decision making by front offices and coaching staffs. It burned me with the Godwin thing, honestly. It seems like it's going to burn me a little bit with the Gallup thing. We can't always assume what's going to happen with guys coming back from injuries. So I guess we can start with with Justin Herbert to your point. Now, he did practice in a limited fashion this week, but then he was a no practice today. You don't love to see that, obviously. And he was doing some plio balls and some plio throwing is what it sounds like.

He's doing rotational work. When you have these rib type injuries, rotating your torso and just moving your torso is super painful. And that's why you saw him sort of walking with his left arm down by a side on that Thursday night game. it was really difficult for him to manage and even move around. I mean, that's a super painful injury. And yeah, it doesn't seem like he's going to play at this point. Now, going to Keenan Allen, that is an even more interesting conversation just because he didn't play last week.

We know that the average mistime with these is typically between one and two weeks. But I don't necessarily think that just because Herbert won't go, that Keenan Allen won't push to go. I think the one thing that I've learned doing this and then, you know, in conjunction with my own job is that most coaching staffs, if, if their guy can go and if they see that they can go and the athlete sees that they can go, they're probably going to do it, right? Regardless of the situation, usually, right? I don't want to say it's always the case, but usually they're going to go. And we know that based on previous practice reports, so even looking at just 2021 last year, most of the time if a player was limited all week with a hamstring injury, they still went.

And they were still active. They're only, you know, I'm looking at the numbers here. It was, you know, like 10 to 12 times. I'm sort of estimating eyeballing here that they were limited all week that they didn't go. And so we might see Keenan Allen. Again, that doesn't mean it's going to be 100% Keenan Allen. It doesn't mean that it's going to be sealing Keenan Allen, obviously, especially since the quarterback is probably not going to be Justin Herbert. So, you know, I think it's Chase Daniel now, right?

Long time, long time, veteran journeyman guy. So I don't know exactly what's going to happen with this situation with Keenan Allen. I would sit on the fence, the side of the fence that he could play. Are you seeing reports otherwise, though? I mean, their coach, Brandon Staley just came on and said he's 50-50. So, I mean, that gives us literally nothing. Does he have to give us nothing. Yeah, I would just make a pivot plan with Keenan Allen, know that if he's active,

he is moderate to highly volatile. But I would lean he's active if I had to guess. If I had to guess, but again, the last time Kenan Allen told you to start to, there was last time he was 50-50, he said, don't bench me. And then he went for a dud. So yeah, this is a super, this is a highly volatile situation. I think even if he's active, you have to find another option. Yeah, I'm planning to not have Keenan on the teams I do have him on.

But yeah, Staley said he's 50-50 for Sunday. You know, man, I just, man, even if Herbert doesn't play, I just, I know it's common sense, but I don't know. I don't know how you can get Keenan out there. Just give him another week, man. Let him get right. Speaking of getting right, George Kittle should be back this week coming off a groin injury. I think you nailed this timeline too when we first started talking about this. This popped up on like Monday, the first Monday or Tuesday practice of week one.

You said it'd probably be a multi-week thing. He could be back by week three or four. And look, here we are. Kettle has been practicing this week. Should be good to go, right? Yeah, we should see George Kittle out on the field. I do think they went the right direction and they sat George Kittle in week two. He's ready.

I think he'll be back this week at full force. I think this is one we're going to see a fully unleashed George Kittle. I mean, we would assume fully unleashed. We have no reason to believe that they're going to hold it back for any reason. he's been rehabbing this groin for a couple weeks now, and I think he's going to be ready to go. There's really not any analysis to add other than the fact that, of course, Jim Garoppel is now the quarterback, so I don't know what you think about that,

Graham. Man, I haven't really made up my mind yet, honestly, on this Niners offense this year. I mean, it's basically like a carbon copy in terms of plan from last year, but I mean, I think I yuk is in a different, much different spot than he was this time last year. a legitimate player. So I'm really excited to see how, you know, Kittle, Iyuk, and Dibah, all kind of intermingle. But, you know, really, I think the big story is like their backfield, man, it's just like Final Destination movie again. Like, they've just all fallen apart. But yeah, you know, on teams I have Kittle, I'm playing, I'm playing them this week. I only

drafted him a few spots. And when I draft them in your league, injury-prone league with a bunch of a bunch of analysts around the industry and finally going to get some Kittle action this week. And so I'm going straight to them. I definitely think you got to start them in that league, Graham. I mean, not to flex or anything. I'm 2 and 0 in that league. We won't say anything other than that. We won't mention your record, Graham Owen, too.

But yeah, I think you got to start them in that spot. And, you know, better days ahead. You got bullets and board material. I always try to throw bait in the water in this league. And very rarely will anybody take it unless it's then, unless everybody all takes it at once. And then they just all come from me and they back me into a corner. And so those are the days that I live for, honestly.

I love a good shit talking league. I'm going to be honest with you. I drafted the worst Justin Jefferson team possible. So, listen, I'm down bad luck, man. You've had some bad luck. I'm down bad in that league. Listen, I'm still the reigning champion. That's true.

You are. I am the worst start possible. It's all good, though. It happens. Lost lands, lost Kettle. You guys don't care. Going back to that stat on Kenan Allen real quick before we move on there, Graham. In 2021, there were.

there were one, two, three, four. So it was essentially 35% of the sample of skill players, wide receivers, and tight ends who were limited all week with a hamstring strain. 35% didn't play, which of course means 65% did play. This might be one of those outlier situations exactly that you're mentioning, which would make sense. Herbert's not going. Let's just shut Keenan Allen down another week too.

That's certainly possible. but again, only 35% actually sat last year when they were limited. So we'll see what that happens. It sort of seems like this could go either way with Ken Allen. So again, I think just emphasizing that you should have a pivot regardless. Right. Interesting. Well, the good news is, you know, or I guess the bad news, I should say.

Excuse me, that game is in the late window. It's the first game of the 4 p.m. window Eastern Time. So unfortunately, we'll have like just six games, five games from to choose from there. So that's why I'm just saying, hey, like, I don't think Keen is going to play. It's a quarterback downgrade. Like, even if he does go, he'll be limited. I'm with you. Yeah.

Let's talk through some bucks receivers or our weekly allocation. I don't know. Seriously. Through bucks receivers. It's unbelievable at this point. Really, I mean, it's really just Julio that we're waiting on for at this point. He's to be determined with this knee injury. At this point, you know, really, it's just a game time call.

The bucks are like in a really rough spot, man. Not only is Evan suspended, Godwin's obviously not going to play. Julio is questionable. Donovan Smith is out. Their left tackle and their backup to him, Josh Wells is also out. They're now down to their third string left tackle, along with all the interior issues they've had. Green Bay's defense is number one in pressure rate right now. This is a really, really rough spot for Packers' Bucks.

You know, we just talked through some Packers receivers. We're about to talk through Packers receivers here in a moment, too. But, man, I mean, where are we at with Julio? I mean, I think, I guess it would be Gage and Scotty Miller as their outside receivers, along with Paramun, if Julio doesn't go. So, man, it's kind of crazy. Here we're in week three, and Bucks were looking great in week one, and now Julio's potentially going to be out.

Right, of course. Now, Mike Evans, obviously, with the suspension as well, It's really probably the worst team that Tom Brady's had to run out there with. By the way, Ebbling, you know what's going to happen? When Latimore and Mike Evans retired, they're both going to do one of those, like, celebrity fights and make millions off. Oh, do you know that's coming? Absolutely. You know it's coming.

It's one of the last few NFL beefs that's like an actual week. Like those two. It really is. They really hate each other. Yeah, you know that's real. You know those two dudes don't like each other. They're not coming to each other's cookouts. That's absolutely not.

So the other thing about Russell Gage 2, Graham, for the record, he was a DNP today. So limited two days in a row and then DNP now. So, I mean, they could suit you up there and probably be in better shape than they are now. Yikes. That is not good. Yeah, I mean, I was going to mention on Brady. Brady's passing prop opened at like 255. It's gotten beat down now to like 244.5.

Rogers opened at like 239. It's gotten beaten down to. I mean, both these teams are just beat to hell right now. Hackers side, man, like, Lazzard is not on the injury report, which I find surprising coming off this ankle injury. But Sammy Watkins is going to miss this game with a hamstring. Christian Watson has a hamstring. I guess really the question is, how is Lizarre possibly off the injury report after dealing with this injury if the last two weeks? he was clearly limited last week.

Where are we out with Lazard and what can we look for in terms of effectiveness? You know, at this point, I don't really know. I know that he had it sort of, he got had it re-agravated in week two. That's not really a situation that you want to be involved with. If you're, you know, if you roster Alan Lazard for whatever reason on this green, God's Green Earth that you have Al-Nazard on your roster. So I don't want any pieces. I don't know how he, what's that?

Oh man, you're a big lizard hater. I had no idea. Not a fan of the lizard, man. I mean, I just think that anyway, well, let's, here's, here's what I'm saying. He was limited on Wednesday, didn't practice on Thursday, off the report on Friday. It doesn't mean that he, you know, isn't healthy. It doesn't mean that we're doubting anything that's ever come out on the injury before it, Graham, because we know it's always 100% accurate.

I just have my doubts that this is going to be a game where he is playing 100% healthy. I just don't. I just don't see how that's physiological. possibly possible. So I'm just not putting a lot of eggs in that basket. Yeah, I was shocked. I mean, literally right as we were about to start recording, I was like, well, Lizard's not on the injury report somehow. It's not possible. But it's where we're at. A lot of these injury report, man, are so fickle. Like, it's so hard to get anything actionable out of any of any of it these days. That's a whole other conversation. But yeah, I'm with you, man. I just don't think we can expect much

from Rogers here. I don't really think we can expect much from Brady here either. I am personally looking elsewhere if I have Brady Rogers. I like got famous last words for saying this, man, but I kind of like Jared Gough more. If you're playing like a pocket passer this week, I think Gough has a better outlook. I think you can make a case for Winston, too, and a potential kind of shootout game against the Eagles, because this game, man, It's just, it's brutal. Edwin, the total in this game is 41.5. That's like two points off what Trubisky versus Brissette was last time.

I mean, it's so, it's so bizarre to see a total this low for Brady versus Rogers. It's 42. But it's where, like, here's the thing to, and I've had this rant before. Like, at what point without all of the help that Brady, like, Brady's been is obviously to go and I'm not going to argue that he's not the best dude that's ever freaking laced him up, right? That's not the case. is not what I'm arguing. At the same time, he's a human being. It was 45 years old and obviously has some offseason tension. What do you want to call it? I don't know. That stuff doesn't go away.

And he's 45. Like he needs some help. He needs Julio. He needs Godwin. He needs, you know, Lombardi Lennie. He needs a solid defense. He needs everything that he is going to get out of the bucks. He needs that from him because he's 45 years old. Like that's normal. Like, and that's where we're headed with these guys. And Aaron Rogers, you flip around to the other side. I mean, Aaron Rogers' primary target is a running back and two rookie wide receivers. And a guy coming, a tight end coming off in ACL, like, these guys are human, right?

Is that I guess what I'm trying to say. Like, they are, they do what they can with what they're given. And right now, they're just, they haven't been given very, you know, a very decent hand. And that's so that,

that comes out to, you know, a point total that's 41. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, both these teams have shifted extremely run heavy to. I mean, Packers are top 12 in run rate.

Bucks are, you know, top five. right now in run rate. So we're going to see a big, big dose of league winner Lenny, league winner Lombardi Lennie, and Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon in this spot. But yeah,

I'm not playing Rogers or Brady in seasonals this year, this week outside of a super flex 2 QB type formats. Edwin, not much else really to get to. I mean, really the big news that we're waiting on is Herbert and Keenan. I do have something for you right now. Graham sort of live as we're recording.

This is from Cassie Soto, underscore Cassie Soto on Twitter. She said Raiders injury update. Josh Jacobs is not traveling with the team today. Hashtag Red Nation. This is obviously and Hunter Renfro, according to Adam Hill, Denzel Perryman and Hunter Renfro officially out on Sunday. Josh Jacobs questionable. And then now Josh Jacobs not traveling. So it looks like we won't have Josh Jacobs or Hunter Renfro.

Yeah. Well, Renfro has the concussion. Jacobs, I guess. must be really sick because he's missed a couple of practices with an illness. I guess it's not COVID related, but damn. When did this Renfro concussion happened, by the way? I'm guessing the only time it could have happened would have been in overtime because he was, well, he fumbled that ball. So I think that's when it happened on that fumble either then or. Well, and it's also possible that he just Maybe it happened earlier in the game and you didn't have symptoms, but I really, I guess that's really the only play it could have.

So I guess the Zemir White-sizam? Jacobs could still fly to Nashville tomorrow, so we'll see. What are the chances that happen, though? I don't know. I mean, yeah, dang. I mean, it'll probably be like Zemir White and Abdul. Are they going to have Brandon Bowden this week? I should look into that.

But, I mean, honestly, dude, Raiders have been so pass-heavy. I just think if Jacobs doesn't play, they just throw it even more. Yeah, that's fair. I think that's what we're looking at. All right, dude, this has been great. We'll get you out of here on one more Sunday night football. Excuse me, Monday night football. By the way, what do you think of Joe Buck and Akeman?

Have you listened to me? Can I be 100% honest with you, Graham? This is like going to be blasphemy. I listen on mute. I don't listen to the commentary. Unless it's something weird with the rules happens and I'll turn it up. Like I don't. I don't listen with the sound on.

And I think that's honestly like I think that it's older boomers that are like super attached to the idea of like it's got to look professional and it has to be Buck and Akeman. Like honestly, I don't even know all of the like I know Mike Tariko did it. And I know that, you know, Akeman and Buck are big. Like I'm not a huge and I'm probably going to get roasted for this. I just don't care who does like it could be Dolan and Hanson doing it. with their shirt off in their, you know, like slippers, I'd still watch the games. It doesn't matter. To me anyway.

So I don't watch. I got you. I got you. Yeah. I got you. There's definitely been a few of the former ESPN broadcast booth, the ones that featured like Boog and those guys like, oh, yeah. Dude, they could, yeah, there's no way.

So when you're watching the game, do you have just have tunes on or what do you listen to? Yeah, sometimes, I mean, we have music on. I mean, when Redzo's on, right, I'll have the Red Zone sound on. But if it's like an island game, I rarely will actually watch, like, listen to, listen to what's going on. I'll do work. I'll, like, update my, I'll do the injury updates and I'll do, like, work on stuff. Like, I just don't know. I'm not a fan of it. Gotcha. They just have, to me, it's just not, it's not enriching to the experience. I don't need to

hear them out, like I said, unless it's a piece of news or they're telling me, like, what's going on with the ruling. Wait, so when your Seahawks were on last week or two weeks to go against the Broncos. You didn't even listen? You couldn't even give your own team to listen. Man, that was enough. My eyes were bleeding enough with just, just watching it. So I didn't need to turn the sound on to. Bro, they won. Gina was great. But the second half, I mean, that game was a piece of shit. I don't know. You can watch that and think that's a beautiful, that's what the founding fathers of football wanted it to look like, man. That was, I don't know what's going on. I mean, I'll take it, obviously, but it was, it was not a pleasant experience to watch. It's just not pretty.

Yeah, that game was really bad to watch. But Monday night football, this game won't be much better to watch either. This game has a total of like 39, 38 and a half. Cowboys Giants, really the only news that we're waiting on here is Dalton Schultz. He's questionable with a knee injury. I saw something to the effect that this is the same-ish knee injury that ZCab last year, which is not great. And it's also not great because Dalton Schultz is not one of these freak tight-end separators. He's more of his zone-beater.

And any time one of these guys like losing. loses even more zip and more juice, it's not great. So don't show it's questionable. Personally, I went on, just making other plans. Yeah, just make other plans. I mean, Andre Allenton and Eric Decker, other comparisons of past catchers who had this PCL injury as well, barely recently, Andre Elton missed three games. Eric Decker missed one game.

Jerry's come out and said, he might not even miss this game, but if he does, it'll be just one game. So it is possible. There's this massive study that was done on like 2000 NCAA prospects. football prospects over the course of like five, six years. And what they essentially found was that when prospects did miss time due to a PCL injury in college, it was typically an average of two and a half games. So, you know, bump that up to the pros and it's still roughly similar.

So we're going to assume that Schultz is going to miss this game, maybe next week, but I think we'll see him back next week. This is something to monitor. This could devolve depending on how severe it is. They said his MRI is clear. So that we're assuming this is just a minor sprain. and it might and it it could you know he could be fine so i don't necessarily plan on shultz being out too long but yeah it's where we're up okay so it's just a one game type of deal if uh if he does miss

seems okay good at michael gallop i will say practiced in full again today uh i don't know if we're going to see him if we do it'll be on some sort of limitation uh but he looks like he's going to get ramped up for a full-time role by week four week five which is along the the guidelines that you had along the way, but he's still not, he's not nine months, is he? No way. He's seven and a half months. And here's the thing too. He was the guy, he was one who had his surgery much later, right? Like in February. Yeah. Yeah. He had him, he had his surgery a month after Godwin. And he's seven months, two weeks. Any clinician under the sun, whether they're a surgeon, a PT, strength and conditioning coaches, ATs, whoever, they will tell you seven and a half months to

return after an ACL is insanity. And, you know, if he's out there and you need him in a lineup, I'm crossing my fingers and I'm just sort of praying to the heavens that he stays healthy. That's honestly what I'm not. Honestly, from a health perspective, that's what I want for Michael Gallup. I want him to get through however long he's going to play at this high risk level. And I want him to stay healthy. I just hope that happens. I hope that maybe he will wait to ramp him up. But this is, this is risky business, man. Yeah, dude. I kind of can't believe that they're even like giving him a chance to play. I mean, if bottom line is if he plays this week and there's no way you're putting him in a lineup,

but we'll just have to see for future weeks. Edwin, this has been great, man. You got any other notes here for the good folks before we get out of here? I'm probably forgetting something, to be honest with you, Graham. We can move on. Oh, hey, you know, let's offer some very over, along over the horizon. What's the phrase? I don't even know.

Along the horizon sort of advice, right? So understand that Brian Robinson sounds like he's getting close. That's a guy that he's going to be eligible to get activated in week five. That's, I would give that name just because I know running back is baron. Another guy is Karen Williams, who had a high ankle sprain and they reported, Shepty reported week one that he's going to be four to six weeks. And so once we get to week four, week five, I'd stash him. There's a reason.

You know, I listened to a podcast. I don't even remember who it was that said they, it was a bigger podcast, right? So they drafted with Schefter. And they said Schefter drafted Kieran Williams. So that tells you something, right? I don't know. So that's a guy from an injury perspective that you might want to stash, especially in deeper leagues. Interesting.

Yeah. I mean, Karen Williams was like, you know, he missed all of August with a, what was it, foot, ankle injury or something like that. Yeah, it's like a foot fracture, I think. Yeah. And, you know, now he's missed this. So, I mean, even if he does get back, he's going to have some ramp up time. One guy, I kind of like as a stash.

I actually just wrote him up with Gus Edwards. This Ravens backfield has been abysmal. We have no idea where Dobbins is going to be at. We also have no idea where Edwards is at. But you can put him on IR spots in Yahoo leagues, like pick him up, not even burn a spot. So I think Edwards makes some sense. But just know that it's like a 10% chance play. Like he has a long way to go.

I haven't seen anything on Edwards in the last like three weeks. it's been so quiet on him. No, yeah, I haven't heard anything either, but we assume he's progressing along nicely. I mean, he's going to be 10 months by the time week five hits. So I think that he should be good to go, right? We assume. We hope so. Yeah.

I kind of wonder if he had a setback. I mean, it's just pure speculation. But there could have been something up there. This has been great, man. Thank you for time. As always, thank you guys for listening. Edwin and I will always be here for you on Fridays. Edwin is also blurbing the news constantly and absolutely crushing it in the injury insights

streets. Make sure you go check those out, guys. They really are fantastic. Edwin is the best in the business. And I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass, Edwin. You really are the best at what you do in terms of your insights, your timelines. I always appreciate just how, like, straightforward and honest you are. You're not really trying to like sell anybody, anything.

You're just telling people information and the best information. So definitely make sure you go check it out. Go to FantasyPoint.com. If the research and news tab, go to injury insights, and always be up to date with the best injury timelines and injury analysts in the game. Edwin, it's been great. I appreciate you, Graham. Yeah. I think the next thing else, the last thing, if we're in a promotion mode, a great sister podcast to the Fantasy Points podcast is the Injury Prom podcast.

Every Tuesday, I'll drop waiver wire. It's always quick hitting 10, 15 minutes. Basically recap the week's injuries. Talk some waiver. wires. And yeah, it's a good little sister podcast to this Friday podcast. We do drops every Tuesday. Appreciate you. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yeah. Stay for, come, come for Edwin's injury advice and stay for his always amazing intros to his podcast. I'll just leave with that. Guys, thanks for listening. We'll be back Friday next week for the next injury roundup podcast. Thanks for tuning in to this

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