Fantasy Football Daily - Week 9 Fantasy Football: Start, Sit & Must-Play Breakdown with Graham Barfield

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

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Week 9, fantasy football, start, sit decisions, which players should be on our benches, which players should be in our flex spots. Theo Greminger and Graham Barfield every single week for Fantasy Football Daily on the Fantasy Points Podcast Network. Ram, let's start it out, a guy that people are sort of hating on this year. Kyler Murray, scoring as a QB2 this season, a low-end QB2 in terms of points per game. Jacobi Perset came in and played well, elevated Trey McBride. Now Kyler Murray is going to make his return. Great, great matchup against Dallas Cowboys.

What is our trust level for Kyler Murray? Is this a game to sort of get him started over the second half of the year? So on a normal week, my trust level for Kyler is like one out of 10, literally. I mean, the dude just hasn't gotten better since his rookie season. He's just like completely stagnated. I also think, you know, Drew Petzig, their offensive coordinator, really hasn't called a great passing game for him for the last couple of years. The run game has been great.

But this week, it's like nine out of ten, ten out of ten. It's just this Cowboys defense is so bad, man. Like, I'm pretty sure, like, you and I could go out there and complete a couple passes against these Cowboys defenders. Yeah. Dallas is soft. Dallas is really soft. It seems like it's a chance for Kyler Murray to sort of get it going.

I think there's like even all, like, I know certainly from fantasy managers, there's a lot of people who are like, you know, save my Tray McBride shares, keep Jacoby Brissette in there. Jacoby Brissette has as many touchdown passes to Tray McBride as Kyler Murray does, really, really low-level stuff. Murray's got to get it going in terms of passing touchdowns. I think that this is one where he's got only six passing touchdowns on the year. If he can simply get that number up and start that against Dallas, I think sort of a turnaround is there.

We haven't never seen him average this. few points per game. 16.2 points per game. We have never seen him average fewer than like 18 points per game. Usually he's a good bet to finish as a QB1. Every single season in his career, Graham, he's finished as a QB1 in points per game. This would be like sort of the the worst season ever if he can't turn that one around. So very interested in that one. And Trey McBride is on everyone's mind, but you want to talk about another Arizona pass catcher. Yeah, Marvin. Harrison, man, he's just been like dragged down by this passing offense. He's also just kind of struggled this season. I think one of the things that we loved from Marv coming out was his hands.

And that's like actually been one of his deficits this year. He's drops and passes that he shouldn't shouldn't drop. But yeah, bro, I mean, this is just this matchup. I mean, you've got to play Marv this week. I've been listing him as like a flex. And I've played, I've put him in the sit list in my article a few times this year. But this week, he's like really strong wide receiver too. Jaguars are giving up the most fantasy points to outside wide receivers, but Dallas's second most this season. So yeah, I mean, if Marv can't hit some sort of a ceiling, like four catches, 65 yards and a touchdown in this spot, like it's, it's going to be scary hours for the rest of the season for him, I think. Yeah, Harrison's an interesting one. He's just been so like mercurial where you've seen like the big spike weeks. You've

also seen the low scoring weeks. It's sort of a continuation of what we've seen from his rookie season. But like you said, Dallas, this is the matchup. You want to start all of your Cardinals. One player that I'm actually very excited about this week, it's kind of nuts. I'm excited about Bam Knight. I think Bam Knight is probably going to be somewhere in the mid-R-B-2 level player this week. He's been really solid. There's also a little bit of a lack of clarity as to when we're going to get Trey Benson back. So coming out of the buy week, I actually think Bam Knight is going to put up a decent number against Dallas,

and you'd potentially have him ready to go in week 10 as your starter as well, if provided he can keep this thing going. Dallas has been getting beat up by opposing running backs as well. Yeah, the Benson thing is interesting. They brought Michael Carter back, but on the practice squad, they cut him Monday this week, brought him back. Bam Knight had already taken over this backfield. You look at their last game by expected fantasy points.

Knight doubled up Carter in terms of expected PPR points. He doubled them up in Kerry's 14 to 7. And they also both ran basically the same exact route share. So yeah, really strong play this week. If you're in need of like an RB2, I'm with you. I think Bam Knight's a good play. And then, yeah, the Trey Benson thing, he tore his meniscus. And, you know, midseason meniscus tear.

We just really don't know what form he's going to come back in. like if he's going to be able to handle some sort of full workload. He certainly has, like if he's fully healthy, he's got like high-end RB2 upside. Benson does for the rest of the season. But I think, you know, Bam Knight for this week and probably the next couple of weeks, we're going to be talking about him as like a, you know, mid-range, low-end RB2.

Yeah, it's, I think Bam-Night and also Kamani Vidal, who's absolutely a locked-in starter for us. We have him as an RB1 this week. Really no reason to talk about Kamani-Vidal. But I feel like with Bam-Night and Kamani-Vidal, it feels like you might get a little bit longer utility out of them than maybe some fantasy managers are expecting. Omari and Hampton, it feels like they're going to be extra safe with him. I believe L.A. has their byweek in week 12.

So I wouldn't expect to see Hampton back until week 13. And then who knows with Trey Benson, you might end up getting maybe five starts out of Bam Knight. When you added them off the wire, you expected maybe he would mix in behind Michael Carter. and you might have just had like found money as like an RB3 type flex play. So very, very interesting stuff. One running back who's not on the show sheet, but is cast into probably most people's starting lineups is Tyrone Tracy. Cam Scadaboo is done for the season.

I feel like every single show, I've been on a bunch of podcasts this week, and I feel like every show, it's just like we have the moratorium for losing Cam Scadaboo. one of the players that was like bringing joy to fantasy managers, bringing joy to NFL fans every single week. And now we're going to have to do without him, not only on Sundays as NFL fans, but also in our fantasy lineups. Scataboo was completely locked in.

Tyrone Tracy last year was the second most productive rookie running back in fantasy besides Bucky Irving on the season. Had a really, really strong year. He's got a chance to be an offensive focal point. for New York moving forward. I'm pretty enthusiastic about using Tyrone Tracy this week. I'm trying to make a couple trades for him in a couple of Dynasty leagues as well.

What's your enthusiasm level for Tracy? Do you share my hopes for him for the rest of the season? So Scataboo before he got hurt, he was like RB8 by expected fantasy points like low end RB1 by production. I don't think Tracy is going to get to that level. I think we're going to see some Devon Singletary, but if you look at the last game,

man. I mean, it was Tracy 32 snaps, Singletary 8. You know, like you mentioned, he was pretty productive, especially like from week five on last year, kind of took him some time to ramp up. And now they have a quarterback. So it's like, yeah, I think Tracy is like a high end RB2, probably rest of season. In our rest of season rankings, I just updated them. I think I had him at RB18, maybe RB17. And I honestly could go a little bit higher than that. He's kind of blocked by like Jalen Warren and D'Andre Swift, like, the, pretty strong RB2s, but he's in that pocket rest of season. And then, yeah, for this week, man,

if you've been stashing him, had him on your bench, you picked him up, he was available in like 50% of Yahoo leagues. I think you're just playing him as like a, you know, pretty strong RB2 and, you know, really good flex play if you've got some good running back depth. Yeah, he feels like a plug-in play guy. And Tracy has the ability to catch the football, give you the two-way ability. Definitely not the hammer the Cam Scataboo is, but I think he can get there in different ways. I'd say there's potential he could get you 80% of the Cam Scataboo scoring. I think that's a realistic number. And if I'm getting 80% of Cam Scataboo, Scadaboo was like an RB2 or better every single week.

If I'm getting 80% of that, it's a player that should help me in fantasy football. And I do think it's going to be like the threat of Devin Singletary. To me, they're going to lean into Tracy. Tracy's going to be the running back who's going to be getting the weekly touches and scoring for us. Let's pivot back over to the quarterback position. Talking about some teams coming off of buy weeks, you got the L.A. Rams. Matt Stafford was red hot as a touchdown passer. Their last game, that was a Europe game where they won easily over the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Now he's got sort of another cushy matchup against New Orleans this week coming off of the buy. You got to think Matt Stafford's going to keep this thing going, put up some strong numbers. Is he a starter? Is he a top 12 quarterback for you this week, Graham? Definitely. And I want to just give Stafford like some love, man. He's been, he was awesome before the buy. I mean, this is a guy who was always like crushed for not having a ceiling.

But he's QB10 on this season, 19.5 fantasy points per game. Only one tenth of a point behind DAC. And we're just like jamming DAC in the lineups every single week. Yeah, he's hit three games of 25 or more fantasy points in his last four outings. Obviously getting Pooka back is just huge for the ceiling. here. And, you know, with all these statue pocket quarterbacks, man, we're going to rely on touchdowns and touchdown variants can kind of, you know, kill your lineup some week. But I mean, Stafford is thrown from multiple passing touchdowns in all but two games this year. The two games

he didn't do it was against Houston. Okay. Good pass defense. And then that weird 17 to three game against Baltimore. So I'm on Stafford. Rest of season is like borderline top 12. I think we have him, QB 13 or QB12 in our rest of season rankings. And then, yeah, for this week, I mean, he's like, like a locked in top 10 play, I think, among all quarterbacks. Saints are struggling to pressure the quarterback. Their secondary has kind of been suspect. Adams and Nakuwa should just, they should just go off in the spot. Yeah, getting back Pukua, and we're anticipating he's going to play this week, that's going to be a big one for Stafford. We saw the connection with Devante Adams at the by week where they're using Adams, like sort of like a goal line back, getting like the three short touchdown grabs.

that offense could just be absolutely lethal. Very, very bullish on L.A. over the second half of the season. This is an offense that we're absolutely banking on. Let's take a quick break. We come back. We're going to talk about Jordan Love. Love was on fire in week eight.

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See terms at pick6. Dot draftkings.com slash promos. Welcome back. Fantasy Football Daily, Theo Greminger and Graham Barfield every week. Getting you the start sit advice that you need to dominate your fantasy league right here on fantasy football daily on the Fantasy Points. podcast network. Graham, let's talk about it. Last week, Jordan Love was lights out, three touchdown passes. I hit a number of season highs in terms of statistics. One thing that's interesting to me is

we saw the Green Bay pass attack take a big step forward. Tucker Kraft absolutely snatching souls at the tight end position. Christian Watson coming back. We'll talk about him in a minute. But Love, it seems like the passing game is going to, is trending up. And at the same time, Josh Jacobs, they're having to mix in a little more Emmanuel Wilson. I don't think that calf is right. Could we see a return to a little bit more balance in the second half of the year after 2025 season or excuse me, last year's season we saw where it was like the Josh Jacobs show every single week in the second half of the season?

Could it be a return to a little bit more of a balanced approach in Green Bay? And what's your enthusiasm levels for using Jordan Love this week? Yeah, love is like the high. hyper Matthew Stafford, where he really has to have, you know, the big touchdown weeks because he basically, like you mentioned, is just like it just comes down to the pass volume with him. Like, if they let him throw, he's going to be pretty good. They actually have been pretty balanced this year, man. Like, it's just they haven't really had a week like last week all year where they really

push the pass rate. At fantasy points data, we have the pass rate over expectation metric. Last week, Packers were the fifth most pass happy team. And on the year, they've really not. had a week where they've gone super, super run heavy. So the balance has, is kind of been there. It's just, you know, love is stuck between like, I don't know, 28 and 32 dropbacks. He's going to live on that, like, QB1 flex line, but he's just, he's playing an extremely high level, man. Like, we have an epidemic of ADOT in this league, and Jordan Love is like trying to solve it

himself, basically. You know, I think Love is this week with four teams on by, he's like in that Stafford pile for sure. And then going forward, I still think, you know, Josh Jacobs is going to have his weeks where he scores multiple touchdowns. And Love is going to be, you know, permanently like the QB 13, unfortunately. But, you know, I'm on Love in the Packers this week. I mean, they've just got a huge team total against the Panthers, 14 point home favorites. This screams Josh Jacobs bounce back like a two-touchdown game for him.

But, you know, with Love playing at such a. a high level. He's really hard to take out of lineups right now. Yeah, and let's talk about Christian Watson. Christian Watson certainly didn't look like a guy coming off the torn ACL, led Green Bay in Green Bay wide receivers in receiving yards. Tucker Kraft is sort of the main target there. Tucker Kraft is about tied with Romeo Dubs for the target total lead on the season. I'm sure he's going to pass Dubs in the short term. But Christian Watson, I think, is a fun flex play for for me in a couple of lineups decision. I had him very highly ranked in my waiver wire column,

which you can read over at FantasyPoints.com. Your thoughts on Christian Watson, is this like a smoke-em-if-you-got-em situation where we're going to use Christian Watson as long as he's healthy? Do you have apprehension about the Green Bay wide receivers being too difficult to predict, or is this a Christian Watson takes another step forward

against a pretty soft Carolina defense? So, yeah, you nailed it. Tucker Kraft is just like he's must start, but I'm kind of throwing my hands up with these Packers receivers. Like at the end of the day, like Watson was not, like I'm very surprised he looked that healthy coming off the ACL. I expected him back,

but not to look that great. For this week specifically, Carolina has actually been pretty good against outside wide receivers. Their bottom 12 in fantasy points allowed to perimeter receivers. And then, you know, there's a chance, man. They could just smoke the Panthers

and just kind of take the air out of the ball in the second half. I think all three of these Packers, receivers are kind of in the same bucket. They're just like wide receiver three flex plays. By schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed, Panthers are actually bottom six this season. They've been pretty good, man. J.C. Horn's had a nice bounceback season.

So, yeah, man, Matthew Golden, just, I don't think it's going to happen. No, I don't think it's happening anymore. Christian Watson really hurts him. Yeah, he really hurts him because obviously they win in kind of the same way. I think, you know, Golden's a better route runner, but they obviously both are, you know, deep threats. And, you know, Golden hasn't had a game above a 20% target share all season. And, you know, you're really just banking on, you know, loves efficiency and some big plays.

And, you know, with Watson coming back, that really hurts them. Yeah, 100% agree with you. I'm going to say, and Chris Wecht is not very enthusiastic about Christian Watson in our rankings over at fantasy points. And Chris has been fantastic all year long. rankings are terrific. If you're a DFS player, if you're a redraft player, if you're a dynasty player, you want access to the rankings we have over at Fantasy Points. They're absolute fire. And you can get access to those using the code Theo. Code Theo gets you 15% off our already discounted packages over at FantasyPoint.com. Graham's apprehensive about Christian Watson.

Chris is apprehensive about Chris and Watson. I'm not, though. This is my vibes based take. Vibes based prediction here, Graham. Five catches, 125 yards and a touch. down for Christian Watson. Christian Watson is going to put up a number this week against Carolina. So let us know in the chat. Are you Team Graham? Are you reasonable, well thought out? Or are you my vibes-based takes where it's Christian Watson to the moon this week and absolutely smokes it?

I'm excited about Jordan Love too. I think this is a sneaky Jordan Love, Christian Watson DFS week, too. I'm actually, I'm very bullish on this passing game this week. I know Carolina, they've had some big weeks. Of course, they completely shut out Atlanta earlier in the year. and all that kind of stuff. But Green Bay feels like a team that's heading in the right direction. Carolina, not so sure about that one.

One player, though, that I think would give Carolina a major boost is Rico Dowdell. We're starting to see Dave Canales saying the right things here, really heaping praise on Dowdell and sort of saying that Chuba Hubbard is a guy that we love organizationally. We want to give them opportunities. But it seems like there's going to be a shift here. it's been pretty much a split the last two weeks. Could this be the week that we see 6535 in favor of Rico Dowdell? Your enthusiasm levels for him this week.

Yeah, that's the way I'm seeing it too. Like if you look at the full quote from Dave Canales, I think on Monday, he's basically saying like, we can't ignore Chuba or excuse me, we can't ignore that RICO has been like exceptional better, basically saying he's been better than Chuba. And you look at the metrics, man. And it's like not even close. Like Chuba, you know, is really struggled, you know, after contact.

He's barely forced any miss tackles this season. He's just, you know, not the same player. I think playing through this injury. Rico is just like fully deserving of this role. And we have him as a pretty strong like back end RB2 rest of season. I think RB20, RB21 is like the right pocket. And I could see a scenario where we just keep bumping him up because they keep giving him more and he's just better than Chuba.

This week, I'm kind of treating RICO as like a low, low-end RB2, a really good flex play. We were just talking to this game. I mean, they're just huge, you know, 13.5, 14-point. Underdogs, they have a 15.6 implied team total just really, really low. Only the Saints have a lower team total this week. That being said, though, I mean, Rico has been awesome. You know, Packers obviously have a very good run defense,

but I'm expecting, like, you know, at least, at least, 14, 15 touches in the spot for Rico. And I think he's going to, you know, kind of widen the gap over Chuba rest of season. We've also seen Rico Doudal be efficient as a past catcher. So if the game does get away with from them, we've got that added out that maybe he could add four or five catches. During some of the Rico Dattle spike weeks, he had a touchdown catch. So I would love to see Rico Doudel really take on a more prominent role. I think his fantasy ceiling could be somewhere closer to low end RB1.

we really do get him getting back to that kind of volume. Really, really strong stuff from Dowdell. We also saw another injury. Isaiah Pacheco now is week to week. Who's your preferred Kansas City running back here? Kareem Hunt had the two touchdown scores against Washington on Monday night. Breshard Smith, there's a whole hive of us, sort of really excited about the opportunity for more touches,

for more targets out of the backfield for Smith. If you had to start a Kansas City Chief running back, are you going with the touchdown score or the mystery box? I'm going with Hunt, and it's going to be gross, but like, you know, I want Richard Smith to be a thing too, but they're going to continue to use Hunt on obviously all their goal line stuff, short yard and stuff. But he's also going to get, you know, most of the early down carries now. To me, man, I'll be honest, I think they just shift even more pass heavy.

Like we've seen the chiefs are the number one team in our, in our pass rate over expectation metrics at fantasy points data. Mahomes and Andy Reid just posted a plus 15% pass rate this past week and week eight. It was their sixth game this year, fifth game this year with a plus 10% or higher pass rate over expectation. For this week specifically, I think they just lean even more on Mahomes, lean even more on Rishie Rice and all their guys that are now healthy. And they're going to have to.

I mean, this game with the Bills, man, like Bill's Chiefs games have just gone off, like 50 or more points, like basically every single time. They're going to be pushed this week. And, you know, bills do have a very bad run defense, like very, very bad. So, you know, when they get in close, I think it's going to be a lot of hunt. We'll probably see some more design stuff for Breschard Smith. I'm going to write him up as like a low end flex for this week just because, you know, they've been designing some passing, you know, passing targets for him, kind of get him going in

that way. But, yeah, I think Hunt is going to project like a low end RB2, like high end, flex this week. Yeah, I think I'm with you. I think I if you're in trouble, I think either one is sort of usable. I think maybe Smith that the ceiling is there if the game flow gets there. But the problem is Kansas City is just absolutely rolling people offensively. I think it's leaning itself towards Kareem Hunt being better than expected. We saw this last year. The exact scenario, Pacheco goes down. Hunt comes in and really defied expectations. Not a exfp type guy, but a guy who just sort of gets it done.

Kareem Hunt, I think the opportunities you'll be there on the goal line. Mahomes targeted him for a short touchdown pass this past week. I think there's a certain trust factor. And organizationally, Hunt has all the experience in the world. Smith has only been playing the running back position

for a short period of time. So he's got the juice, but not necessarily the experience. I think experience wins out. If I had to pick one, it's Kareem Hunt. Let's talk about Travis Hunter real quick. Travis Hunter talking about players coming off of buy weeks. Hunter was awesome in week seven. We saw Travis Hunter with his best game of the season,

24 PPR points, eight catches for 101 yards and a touchdown, 14 targets, Graham. There's a lot of talk coming out of Jacksonville that maybe it could be a potential changing the guard at the wide receiver position with Travis Hunter leading the room for the rest of the season. Your thoughts? I think that's the case. Brian Thomas is just not the same player as he was. his rookie season. I was calling him like a Julio Jones clone just running these like demon outside routes, just putting corners in, you know,

basically shambles. He's just not, he's not had the same level of like separation on his routes. And obviously Thomas has struggled like no other player with, with drops this year. Basically anything away from his body, Brian Thomas's body, like he's just really, really

struggling with. And I'm not sure if it's like a confidence thing. I'm not sure if it's a technique thing. I don't really know what's happened. But you throw on the Travis Hunter film the last couple weeks, he is getting wide open, man. Like before the breakout game against the Rams, he was really, really starting to get open. And then, yeah, you mention it. He has the breakout game, a really strong game from him against the Rams. You know, our average separation metrics didn't necessarily love him in that spot.

But, I mean, he's just continued to ramp up. Theo, I don't know if this is like a bold take, but I did bump Hunter above BTJ and the rest of season rankings. It just feels like this is kind of the momentum. Like BTJ has like, you know, had some good volume based games, but like we were just saying, he's not been the same player. And Hunter's just like continued to ramp up.

For this week, man, like this Jags team, they get a, they get a Raider secondary that's been like pretty bad. Like they haven't really been exposed this season, uh, truly exposed. But for Hunter specifically,

he's been running, you know, good amount of his routes from the slot. Raiders are, you know, bottom 15. and fantasy points allowed to slot receivers. They've been really bad to perimeter receivers,

giving up the fifth most fantasy points for games. So I really like Hunter in this spot. I think you're playing BTJ as like a wide receiver three flex for the rest of the season. But I'm buying Hunter. I mean, this is what we see every year with rookies, you know. Week eight, week nine, these guys start popping and start winning leagues. And I kind of feel like that's the trajectory that we're going to get it for Travis Hunter here. Yeah, I'm completely with you.

Everything about it, the routes, percentage for him. I mean, he's running a ton of routes. He's on the field the entire game. And I said this on a couple of shows this week. I agree with you. I think Travis Hunter outscores Brian Thomas Jr. over the course of the rest of the season. And I think this could end up being a big breakout for Hunter, something like 15 and a half points per game for Travis Hunter the rest of the way. I think it's still an opportunity to buy him in redraft, even to buy him in dynasty. And I think by the time we get to the fantasy football playoffs, he is going to be a locked in starter for people.

And there's going to be no hesitation. You're just going to put them in your starting lineup and use Travis Hunter. We've also seen Liam Cohen with the manufactured looks, the design targets. I think you're going to see a lot more of those for Travis Hunter, keep things easy on Trevor Lawrence. And this offense could potentially have a really nice start to the post-by week against Vegas, like you mentioned, a very, very interesting player there. Let's take one quick break.

When we come back, let's talk about a starter out of Tennessee. Are we actually excited about a Tennessee Titan right after this? All right, Graham, let's talk about it. My guy, Chimir DK, Chim DK, back-to-back weeks with 16 plus fantasy points scored. DK's been really, really impressive. He had four catches for 70 yards and a touchdown in week seven against the Patriots. And then things got a lot better. Put up a massive number of targets for him, eight targets in week eight against the Colts,

seven catches for 93 yards. He also has had a carry in back-to-back weeks. And on the season, he has eight carries where they're giving him manufactured rush attempts. Graham, he's playing in the slot a lot with that elite speed out of the slot, very high slot rate, but he's also getting on the field in two wide receiver sets. What are your thoughts on ChimDK? I'm kind of excited about using him in the flex.

I know there's issues with Tennessee, but they don't have the horses here. It feels like they're going to get as much as they can handle out of their exciting rookie. I'm with you. I think he's like trending towards basically the only Titan we can play in fantasy. You know, this running back group is just turned into a pretty much full-blown nightmare. Like, you know, just kind of both spears and Pollard are eating into each other. Io Manor hasn't really popped yet. You know, Ridley's hurt.

Yeah, man, for this week, like, you know, chargers have been really good. against outside wide receivers. Like you mentioned, D.K. is running more of his routes inside. I think the big thing for me is, like, we hadn't seen him in a full-time role just yet. He hadn't played more than 70% of the routes yet this season, but that changed last week out up to 86%.

So really, you know, it's going to be he and I.O. Manor as their primary receivers in 12 personnel for the rest of the season. You know, this is kind of the week where the top 20 receivers are really strong and then it's just kind of like a big bucket for a receiver 21 on. Yeah, DK's kind of probably at the bottom of the wide receiver three pile, but, you know, if you're in a pinch and then need him in a flex, you know, decision, you know, in a deeper league, he's certainly in play. Yeah, I'm really excited about him.

I had him very highly ranked in my Waver-Wire column. You can check that out over at Fantasy Points. Graham, last week you recommended Joanne Jennings as a starter. That didn't work out so well. It's been back-to-back weeks for Jennings with seven targets, four catches. This past week, the yardage went up a little bit, 45 receiving yards, but eight and a half PPR points, not getting it done for fantasy managers. San Francisco's offense really just shut down against Houston.

They only scored 15 points. Are we ready to use Joanne Jennings again this week? Are you changing up your take on him or is your enthusiasm level for him still? there. Yeah, I just follow the usage, man. And it's been pretty good. Like, got a 22% target share last week, led the team, week seven, got a 27% target share, easily led the team. And we'll see on Purdy. Mac Jones has played pretty well with, you know, Purdy out. It does not seem like Purdy's going to play. He's got this toe injury. It's just they're, you know, letting this heal up. But yeah, you know, I mentioned Jennings was kind of like a wide receiver three last week. It was just a

really tough matchup. This week I'm treating them as more of like a low end wide receiver two, high end wide receiver three. And the usage has been, you know, really, really good. It's this matchup too. Giants have been like kind of sneaky bad against wide receivers this season. They've been, you know, bottom 10 and fantasy points allowed to outside wide receivers, not very good against slot receivers, bottom 12. So pretty much wherever Jennings lines up, he's going to have a pretty decent matchup. And this game has, you know, back and forth shootout potential for sure. I mean, Jackson Dart is playing in an extremely high level, just kind of carrying this offense, a 48 and a half team total. I know the production really hasn't been there for

Juan Jennings this year outside of one game. He had five catches, 89 yards in the touchdown against the Saints. That's really his only good week this year, but I'm kind of feeling it this week. I think we're going to see Jennings get back in our good graces here. Yeah, there you go. And I love it. I like the conviction. One player that, I mean, frustrating for me, the narrative shift has just been absolutely wild. The first four weeks of the season, we saw Quentin Johnston's or 14.9 PPR points or more in four consecutive weeks. He outscored Ladd McConkey in all four of those games.

Then week five, it dropped down to 6.9 points scored. We go to the by week. We're still like everything's all good. Excuse me, we went to not the bye week. We went to week six where QJ missed the week, banged up, comes back in week seven against the Colts, catches a touchdown, but only two catches, a season low. And then things got even worse in week eight. The chargers were scoring at will.

Arronday Gadsden is the truth. Ladd-McConkie with a huge performance, but zero PPR points out of Quentin Johnston. There's a lot of cause for concern. A lot of the QJ haters are coming out of the woodworks. I didn't hear from these people the month of the season. They were chilling, but they're coming out of the woodwork this week

saying like, see, I told you, QJ's nothing. You should have sold, you should have sold your QJ shares. Or is this just a man versus zone thing? Is this a game flow thing? Where's your trust level for QJ? I mean, what a change of events?

Yeah, I'm pretty concerned. And it's like we have a three game sample now where he's been at 12% or fewer of the targets. it's not just Arronday Gadsen being awesome. Like he's, you know, they're using him as a receiver.

Ladd-McConkie has really taken off. You know, we saw a really slow start from McConkey in the opening month, but since then, I mean, he's been at a 21, 24, 26, and then last we got a 40% target share. This is,

this is the lad that we were drafting, you know, second round this season. You know, Lad is still probably not going to pay off his ADP this year just because of all the target competition, but he is, clearly kind of taken back over as the wide receiver won.

And then, yeah, I mean, Gadsden is just like, kind of, he's kind of hurting Keenan Allen too, man. Like, it's not just Quentin Johnston. They're taking Keenan off the field in favor of Gadsden and kind of using, you know, a little more 12 personnel. Keenan's basically just basically, you know, only been like an 11 personnel guy this year. For this week and moving forward,

I keep bumping Quentin Johnston down in the rest of season rankings, keep moving lad up slightly. this week, like, they play the Titans, and I mean, they could just absolutely, you know, destroy the Titans, man, and kind of take the air out of the ball in the second half, even though they've been a very, very pass-happy team this year. I mean, they're 10-and-based-point favorites on the road. That's huge in the NFL. I'm going to write up QJ as a flex one more time. I bumped him down to Flex category last week, and he might honestly be closer to a sit. Yeah, it's, I think it's, if it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you're breaking ties against QJ. Again, though, the passing offense has been so good that even with

the usage trending down, there's still an opportunity that QJ could give you a 20-point week. I think it could end up just being a frustrating moment, Scram, but I don't think what we've seen the last two weeks is indicative of the player we saw the first month of the season. I'm going to be still a little bit optimistic on him, but like you said, if you have better start options, no need to force it this week. Just start that Arronday Gadsden guy. He's good at football. The team that the Chargers beat up on last week,

37 to 10 over the Minnesota Vikings, we did see the return of Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones scored five PPR points. Nobody's really talking about it. But Jordan Mason sort of became invisible 1.6 ppr points. Are we using either of these backs in Minnesota? to further complicate matters, Xavier Scott also scored 4.4 points,

caught two passes. Where's your enthusiasm level? Is there a single Minnesota running back you want to use this week? No, yeah, no. I'm trying to avoid the Vikings backfield, like I'm trying to avoid this Titans backfield. It's a two-fold thing. Like Aaron Jones is going to play in the passing downs.

He ran 17 routes to Jordan Mason 6 this past week, and then obviously, if they're going to split carries, like it just kind of nukes Mason. And then this week, like, they're huge, huge underdogs on the road in Detroit. You know, JJ McCarthy is now having to start, you know, because Wence is hurt, going into Detroit, like, this is a pretty rough matchup for McCarthy to kind of shake off the rust, get back going. Detroit has been an okay run defense this year, 3.6 yards per kid.

carry aloud. So you're not going to see like a lot of explosive plays. It's going to be kind of a grinded out game for Vikings run game. I would be trying to avoid these Vikings running backs. And I'd be using pretty much any of like the top 35 receivers that we have in our projections over them. I think that's a great way of pointing it out sort of how to how to exploit the flex this week, not forcing a Minnesota running back in favoring the wide receivers instead. Another running back who things are just not good for right now is Alvin Kamara. There were a number of people having takes that Kamara's production was going to trend up after the season ending injury to Kendra Miller.

It's been anything but that. Alvin Kamara has back-to-back weeks with 6.5 points or fewer. And four out of his last six games played, he's had single digit PPR scoring numbers. we mentioned that we expect that L.A. is going to maybe woodshed New Orleans this week. Also looking like Tyler Shuck at quarterback, that's a variable that I don't even know which way it's going to go. Shuck could potentially have more rush attempts. But really the specific question is Alvin Kamara, do we see any sort of a bump with a rookie behind center? Are you looking to use him anywhere or are you just flat out sitting Kamara?

Yeah, I'm done. I'm done with Kamara. That's just been a pain train this entire year. Saints have the lowest implied team total this week, 14.8 points. Tyler Shuck is a total mystery box. I thought Rattler was playing well enough to keep the job all year. Maybe the ownership is just like, hey, the season's over. We got to take a look and see what we got with Shuck.

We kind of know what Rattler is. Whatever the case may be, it's not just like we have quarterback concerns. We also have Devin Neal concerns. last week, Neil ran more routes than Kamara, ran 20 routes to 15 for Kamara. Didn't get a carry, but I think Devin Neal is like a really sneaky stash for back into the year. Like there's a chance they just kind of like, you know, let him, let him kind of take over some of the job maybe week 13 on and just kind of see what they have with the rookie.

Kamara is a set this week for me, man. I'm pretty much out. I added a ton of Devon Neal based on the potential for a Kamara. a trade, which looks like it probably is not going to happen. But I agree with you. I think they're going to see what they can get out of Neal. You also might see one of the wide receivers, probably not a lobby, but Rashid Shahid might get traded before the deadline.

Next week, we might be talking about players on new teams, Graham, which would be very exciting for us to do. Let's talk about a situation that I know you are not thrilled to talk about. I know Scott Barrett gets like angry talking about this one. It's our guy Clint Kubiak, who if you had to pick the top 10 smartest offensive coordinators in the NFL. Kubiak's probably on the list. But the way that he's treating your boy, Kenneth Walker,

Scott Barrett, one of the running backs that Scott loves as well, and certainly a player that we all have exposure to in fantasy. Heading in the by week, not good, a lot of frustration there. Zach Charbonnet or Kenneth Walker, which one if you had to use one would you use this week? And are they both sits just to sort of see where the usage goes? I think the usage is going to stick. I think they want to keep Walker fresh.

This is a team that is trying to make, not just win the division, but I mean, they're very live for a wildcard spot if they don't win the division, trying to keep Walker healthy. This week, I think you have to kind of lean into

the touchdowns with Charbonnet. They have a 25 team total, three and a half point favorites on the road in Washington. I don't think we're going to see much change out of the buy. I think we're going to see a split in terms of just like, you know,

the non-red zone, you know, short-yardage carries, and they just keep going to Charbonnet. I mean, my stat, like, it's basically been like 70-30 in terms of the goal line carries for Charbonnet this year. You know, he's scored a bunch, too. He's not like he's been, you know, terrible in that role. He's a really good short-yardage back. So I don't, I don't, unfortunately, man, I don't really see much change. I think you're, I'm going to keep writing these guys up as like low, low-end RB2,

but pretty decent flex plays, especially like in. half PPR where, you know, touchdowns are a little more valuable. Yeah, I think keep them both as high end RB3s. Yeah. And if you need to use them, use them. I think they like Charbonnet. They like things that he does, um, that don't necessarily translate for fantasy. And they're going to give Charbonnet those looks around the goal line.

Another, I made that point on school of Scott. Scott was equally angry at me saying Charmone's been okay around the goal line. He's not a good goal line back. I'm like, like, Scott, you know, you know, guys getting some Russian scores. But I think that this could continue to be a frustrating one for fantasy managers. If you're looking at some sort of clean usage change, I don't think we're going to see that. There's also a chance, Graham, that Walker is just banged up. And we're never going to see him get fully healthy this year.

You mentioned they want to sort of keep everything fresh and all that sort of stuff. I don't know. It's a tough one to gauge. I say they're both somewhere in the RB30 range in the rank as you agree with that. Yeah, I mean, probably maybe a little higher just because we got four teams on a buy. But yeah, if we had a full slate, they'd be in like the RB3 range. Just real quick. I mean, Charbonnet has been a very good short yardage back this.

Thank you. He has been very, very good. Like, I don't think he's a very good running back overall, but he has been good in short yardish situations. The thing that's frustrating is like, Ken Walker in his career has been a very good goal line short yardage back too. So it's like, it's just frustrating because he's, Walker like will rip off like a 15 yard or an eight yard or a nine yarder and then they pull him at the goal line like that is it's just like peak tilt for fantasy but yeah man this season 13 carries inside the 10 for Charbonnet just five for Walker I want to throw up that's that's how I feel

honestly I love kid Walker I'll give a couple stats for the for the Charbonnet haters out there he does have five rushing touchdowns on the year and the last time we saw Zach Charbonnet he had 19 and a half PPR points because Graham, he scored two rushing touchdown. So, yeah, the Zach Charbonnet haters might still be in shambles if he falls in the end zone again this week. We'll see, we'll see. Let's keep this going. Let's stay. You know what? Let's actually, we'll come back to it. Let's talk about Colston Loveland. The year of the rookie tight end. We've talked about countless of these guys on this show. Tyler Warren, absolute stud. Gadsden is a stud. Harold Fanon is a stud.

we're seeing good things out of Mason Taylor in New York. He should be rostered in every league. If you have a chance to add him through the bye week, Colston Loveland, we saw Colquemette out last week, back-to-back weeks with three receptions for Colston Loveland, not exactly what drafters signed up for. Loveland, the number 10 pick in the NFL draft. I think there's a lot of Bears fans who would like a little do over there,

and they would love to have a little Tyler Warren in Chicago. That being said, can Colston Loveland turn things around here? Is there any usage signs that you're seeing that are going to lead to positive results for the rookie tight end? Yeah, I wrote up Loveland as a stream last week, and I think that was a week early. He had 76% route share really strong last week. That was a season high for him. Targis didn't come because Romo Dunzee did Romo Dunzee things and just outflowed everybody.

But this is the week, man. Like the Bengals have the slowest linebacker and safety core in the league by far. And they're giving up just an absolutely massive plus eight fantasy points allowed over, you know, expectation based on the schedule. This year it's like by far the most. The second worst team is the Steelers at plus six. Colts are third worst at plus four. I mean, it's like one of the biggest advantages I can remember for a tight end in their matchup.

So yeah, if Colcomette sets again, week. I'm going to be writing up Loveland as a really, really good streamer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, keep the faith kind of deal. I know that like throughout the process, we were very high on Loveland. We've seen tight end success under Ben Johnson. So yeah, I think we just have to be there. I'm going to be keeping them on a lot of benches. I hope you're right. I'd like to see some production here when it comes from Loveland. But I do know like as a prospect, he was a player that I was high on, Scott was high on, Brett Whitefield very, very high on.

And there's a reason that they took him 10 overall. So we'll keep an eye on that. Last player to talk about Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold, it's sort of another year where Darnold is going to beat his ADP, 1750 passing yards, 12 touchdown passes. Now Seattle is coming off of their by week. Your thoughts on Darnold this week. The schedule is looking pretty good over the next month.

Yeah, that's what I wanted to talk. about. I think Donald is like, I don't know, top 12 is a bit of a stretch, but like I have him top, I think 16, 17, rest of season. And I could certainly see him popping as like a back end QB1 for the rest of the year. Obviously, you know, Seahawks are very balanced. They're going to have some games where they're going to go very run heavy. But, you know, Donald already has three weeks this year inside the top 10 in terms of his weekly finishes. You mentioned the schedule is really good for him. This week, I think he's probably the best true streamer, especially if we get Jaden Daniels in that game. With Daniels, you know, commanders obviously have the ability to put

up, you know, 30 points in any game. That game kind of has some sneaky shootout appeal man on Sunday night. So, you know, 47 team total. Darnold has been really strong floor. He's flashed a bit of a ceiling. Obviously, Jackson Smith and Jig was playing like one of the, you know, top three most talented receivers in the NFL. So really with Darnold, it's kind of like the same equation as Jordan Love and Stafford. They just need to run into some touchdowns. I think this could be a spot, man. Like for sure, commanders have not been very, very good in the secondary.

Their pass rush has been okay. But, I mean, they're giving up the fourth most passing fantasy points per dropback to opposing quarterbacks. Only Dallas, Chicago, and Cincinnati have been worse this season. So kind of a sneaky good spot here, too. I'm going to be streaming a little bit of Darnold. and some spots where I've got, you know, Jalen Hurts or one of my quarterbacks are hurt. Yeah, I'm with you.

Darnold, I think, is playing well. And I believe in this offense being able to take the next step. We saw some positivity. Guys like Elijah Arroyo, we want to keep an eye on him coming out of the buy. A guy like Tori Horton, do they ramp him up a little bit over the second half of the season? And JSN on a collision course with Jamar Chase and certainly Pucanakua in the battle for the wide receiver one. overall. He's completely locked in as a fantasy asset. Graham, this was awesome stuff. Let everybody know what you have going on the rest of the week. Yes, sir. This week,

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