Fantasy Football Daily - What John Hansen Learned at the 2023 NFL Combine | Hansen's Hints Podcast

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

Following his yearly trip to the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, Fantasy Points publisher John Hansen (@Fantasy_Guru) has gathered together all the intel you need for dynasty leagues, from both talking t...o those around the league... and the prospects themselves. 6:00: QBs 14:00: RBs 24:00: WRs Interested in playing Best Ball in 2023? There's no better place than Underdog Fantasy. Use our code FANTASYPTS to sign up for a new account at Underdog, and not only will you get a 100% deposit match up to $100... but you'll get a Fantasy Points Standard subscription for only $5! https://www.fantasypoints.com/underdog --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fantasy-points-podcast/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:07 It's time to the Fantasy Points podcast brought to you by FantasyPoint.com. Top-level fantasy football and NFL betting analysis from every perspective and angle, from numbers to the film room with a single goal to help you score more fantasy points. What is up, everyone? Welcome to another edition of Hansen's Hints here at FantasyPoint.com. First one of the 2023 year and season. John Hanson. I am the one who will be supplying the hints here. And if you are watching on YouTube, we thank you for that. YouTube is going to be a big initiative for us at fantasypoints.com
Starting point is 00:00:52 in 2023. So if you haven't already, please subscribe to our page, give us a like, throw us a bone, throw me a bone, and give me a positive comment. Same deal with the podcast feed. If you had previously subscribed to the feed on iTunes, You're going to have to resubscribe to that bad boy, some sort of technical glitch on that one. But also definitely subscribe if you're not already and give us a good comment and give us a good rating and all that, especially on iTunes because we're kind of starting from scratch. Well, what am I doing here today? I am recording this here in my office in New Jersey on Tuesday, March 7th.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I was at the NFL scouting combine gathering up information. That's kind of what I am, I feel like. an information gatherer. So I thought I would give back the information I got. And more importantly, the vibes I got on this year's incoming rookie class. I have never really purported myself to be, you know, an NFL scout or even really a truly hardcore NFL exo-adalist guy. You know, we do have our guy, Brett Whitefield, who's, working right now diligently on our 2023 prospect guide over at fantasy points.com.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And by the way, that will be a free item that you can download and get all the great insight on this year's class from Brett Whitefield and others. So stay tuned for information on that. You're going to have to get at least a free account to the website. But for a moment on Brett, I spent three days with him in Mobile at the Senior Bowl, just sitting there watching practice. with him and, you know, I've been around the block. I can absolutely confirm that my man knows what he's talking about. So you can trust him for the real hardcore stuff on this year's class in terms of their
Starting point is 00:02:54 skills and, you know, their deficiencies, how it all translates to the National Football League. I can certainly do that myself. I've been at this for a long time. I certainly know football, obviously. I've made a career out of this for 30-some-odd years. I also do have a lot of familiarity with the NFL reporting cycle and, you know, coach speak. So a lot of experience here.
Starting point is 00:03:19 And, you know, while I'm not a big college football guy, I'm still learning about this class and delving into it. You know, I obviously studied up on this year's class, starting with the Senior Bowl. So I did go to that. So I have that background of information for, you know, certain players who were at that game there in Mobile, Alabama. and also, you know, going to the combine and prepared. I did a lot of interviews and just generally being there in indie and talking to people, you know, I've been around a long time, so I know a lot of people run into people, reporters and the like, beat writers and alike and, you know, get their take on the lay of the land,
Starting point is 00:03:58 the landscape. What do I do here? It's all information gathering. And if you, you know, read my stuff at fantasy points.com. in the preseason or if you listen on Cirrus XM, you know I'm all about the vibes. And a lot of it, just to get into that a little bit, is just kind of my process and my deal. But they're not necessarily football related vibes per se, although that's part of it. You know, I certainly have a full understanding of, you know, football and, you know, talent and skill sets and how they relate and
Starting point is 00:04:37 translate to the NFL. That's part of my vibe, but also going to the combine, like I was saying, talking to people, just getting a temperature in the room on a lot of players and then actually interviewing a lot of them and interacting or at the very least kind of observing. And this is where, you know, like the football purists or like what the hell is this guy talking about? Like I said, I know football. I've been doing it long enough. You know, my track record, I think, probably speaks for itself. But I get a vibe on people. You know, that's one of the, you know, keys to my success, I guess.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I do read people pretty well and I get a good vibe and a good feel. And like I said, my track record's pretty good over the years. I'll give you an example. Dak Prescott. I happened to interview at the Combine, whatever that was, eight, nine years ago. and I just was kind of taken back by how mature he was, how serious he was, how diligent,
Starting point is 00:05:44 you know, of a vibe that he put forward. It was clear to me that this guy was willing to, he was a lunch pail guy, willing to do whatever it took. So that preseason, he started playing well in the preseason. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:05:58 okay, I've seen enough. And I said on Sirius XM and I wrote it, I'm like, Cowboys got this pick right. Dak Prescott is going to be good. going to be their starter for 10 years. So that kind of stuff. So with all that said, like I said, I'm still gathering up all the intel.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And of course, we had the testing and all the performances at the combine to go off of as well. I thought I would kind of pop on here for the first time in 2023 and offer up my good vibes, bad vibes, 2023 NFL scouting combine edition. I just literally made that up right there. But we'll go with it. So we will start at, of course, the quarterback position here. And obviously the story was Anthony Richardson. I was hoping to get an interview with my man here.
Starting point is 00:06:47 But that did not happen because, you know, he's a rising kind of a star here throughout this process. And of course, that all culminated with an unbelievable performance, whether it be running a 4-4-340, which was good enough for the first time. or, you know, really putting up outstanding numbers there in the vert and the broad. I also thought he threw the ball pretty well. But let me tell you this, in terms of a vibe. Again, I didn't speak with the man. I was in his presence a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I watched him at the podium. Superstar vibe is what I got. So I'm all in. I see the talent is there. Certainly he needs some experience. I'm not 100% sure he's going to be great at, you know, processing and, you know, diagnosing defenses. But I don't think Cam Newton was particularly great at that as well.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I actually think Anthony Richardson throws a ball better than Cam Newton. So I think he'll be lesser of a runner impactful-wise in terms of fantasy than Cam, but a better passer than Cam. That's certainly a projection. The man has done very little in college, really only starting one year. But good vibe, superstar vibe, being around Anthony Richardson. and that is a grown-ass man. I mean, I say it.
Starting point is 00:08:05 It sounds like I'm an insult, but oftentimes these dudes, it's like a 35-year-old dude. That is absolutely Anthony Richardson. Moving on, Bryce Young, another player I was not able to interview, but I was joking on serious. Never before.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Have I focused on a man's ass more than Bryce Young? Obviously, that was because of all the, you know, questions about his, wait and this was before he weighed in the day before i guess this would have been friday and i sent back to the fantasy points guys on our little text string that i thought he was um not small below the waist i thought he you know had some bulk uh you know below that waist and lo and behold he weighed in at 204 um certainly nothing you can do about the height but uh generally speaking it seems like a pretty soft-spoken young man, so I don't have a ton there. I did have a little brief
Starting point is 00:09:04 interaction with him. I did get a good vibe for what it's worth. I mean, this really kind of means nothing because I only had a very brief vibe with the guy, but pretty good. I think you can see the pedigree. I mean, you could see kind of, you know, coming, I mean, the guy is a former highman winner, basically. You could kind of see that in Bryce Young, all in a positive way. moving on now let me just get to this because it's not all rosy here i call it the way i see it um have i been wrong i'm sure i have but uh generally speaking when i have a bad vibe on a guy it it doesn't work out i was giving the example on serious xm before this person i'm going to get to replace them the worst vibe i had at the combo was gino smith just something about the way he carried himself
Starting point is 00:09:56 He seemed, you know, there's a fine line between having a chip on your shoulder and I don't say being indignant, but I didn't really get a great vibe on Gino for what it's worth. We all know what he did in 2023. And so you could say, oh, yeah, someone should revive. And I would argue, well, it took him a decade, okay, to get there. So there's that. With that said, your new leader in the clubhouse for me in terms of my worst vibe I've ever had at the combine in 15, 17 years have been coming. going there since 2005, Will Levis. Can't really articulate it other than to say I felt that just awkward in the interview I saw
Starting point is 00:10:38 him do with, I believe it was Jim Miller and Pat Kerwin. Nothing on them or anything like that. But just watching Will Levis, the body language, she just seemed bored or a little disingenuous, a little cocky. Let's be honest here. I feel like he was for me. And again, you could, you know, throw. throw this out because it's not analysis, but I thought to myself, okay, who else came across
Starting point is 00:11:03 that cocky or worse? You know, this is the worst since who. And I thought, okay, let me think, think, think. Darius Geis was the answer. So take that for what it's worth. But, you know, his workout was good. He is really talented. I mean, the guy does throw the ball very, very well. He's good size at 6-3 and all that. I would ask too, by the way, why didn't he go? to the Senior Bowl. He was eligible for that. He opted out of that. Not a great vibe on Will Levis. So just throwing it out there, very talented player, but it's not just the talent. Didn't like it. So it's a good litmus test. We shall see. You know, you could say maybe a little Jake Cutler-esque-esque. And I actually used to love Cutler. I was completely enamored with the
Starting point is 00:11:50 skill set there and the hose of the arm. It was different. Cutler was surly. Levis was was a little cocky, I thought, or I don't know, arrogant. Again, nothing personal against the guy. It might be a warm and fuzzy human being and I could be off base, but I'm just, like I said, passing it along. You know, I kind of lean back on the track record. It's pretty darn good here. C.J. Stroud, I don't have much to report.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Seemed like a chill dude. I was around him for a couple of moments. You definitely get into a little bit of an air of, you know, that eliteness from C.J. Stroud. I certainly like C.J. Stroud. I don't have anything earth-shattering here. I absolutely missed a couple of guys, too. I can't really interact with everyone.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Jaron Hall or BYU was looking forward to. I missed that. I saw a little J. Kainer. I did like Jay Canner at the Senior Bowl. I don't think he was wonderful in terms of the workout. A lower-end guy. A lot of people are calling him like the next Brock Purdy. I actually didn't really get to interact or witness much of Stetson Bennett.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And oh, I will say I did have a sit-down interview with Clayton Tune out of Houston. I definitely liked him. And he tested pretty well here in the three cone and the shuttle and the vert. He was solid there. I don't think he threw it amazingly well down there in Indy a couple of nights ago. But good dude, for sure, a very, very mature guy. I can tell you that. I talk with him about the clutch gene that he has.
Starting point is 00:13:21 and he's like a two-minute drill guy. Professional quarterback threw for a ton of yards, 40 touchdowns last year at Houston. I think that was second most like ever or maybe behind Case Keenham there in Houston history. Yeah, but solid dude there, Clayton, too, and as was another guy, Tanner McKee, at a Stanford.
Starting point is 00:13:43 He did tell me he was hoping to surprise a little bit in a couple of the drills, and he wasn't awful in the three. Cone of the shuttle, but do six six. You know, I did talk with him about that, the unique challenges you have with those massive quarterbacks, basically. But really, really nice kid. That's about it.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I didn't really get a vibe on Max Duggan other than not great. That really is mostly from the senior bowl watching him throw the rock. So a little bit of Malik Cunningham, but really not enough to really say anything. So I'll move on here. the first edition of Hanson's hints here at FantasyPoints.com, and it's about the NFL scouting combine, which I attended in Indy late last week over the weekend, did a bunch of interviews here. A lot of running backs to get to, so I'm not going to touch on everyone because, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:38 we have Brett Whitefield and the 2023 prospect guide will have plenty of articles. We already have the best ball rankings up, so you don't need me to break down these players. This is more about just general vibe that I got from indie, knowing what I know about the players, you know, which I'm certainly still learning. But, you know, I'm factoring in that as well, like what I knew about, you know, these guys going in to the combine. And, you know, maybe my interactions with them
Starting point is 00:15:08 and, you know, talking to other people and alike here. So looking at my list here, I'm actually going alphabetically. So don't have a ton here. did interview Chase Brown of Illinois. Very nice dude. Bigger than I thought. He's pretty jacked up. So, you know, that was a nice little interaction.
Starting point is 00:15:28 He did well in the Vert and the broad. So he's got that. And he did well really in the 40. He didn't do the agility drills I see here, I guess. But maybe I'm missing that on my file. But, yeah, a pretty good vibe there. Probably going to be, you know, maybe at best a day two pick. I don't even know if he gets into the third round.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I think the runnerbacks that share is a pretty deep group. We could get a decent number of them who are solid like Chase Brown is falling to the fourth round. But that's not even my area of expertise. Chris Rodriguez, I saw a little bit at the senior bowl. I didn't run into him at the combine, but a big dude who didn't catch a lot of balls, but I noticed he was a pretty good receiver here. Evan Hull from Northwestern.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I know the guy like literally couldn't throttle down doing a lot of those drills and he just kept on running and maybe that is a problem. But I will say something about this guy, he ran a 4-4-740, which I was a little surprised by, but he was there in Mobile. Just the absolute definition of rock solid from what I saw. So he'll be a day three guy, I'm sure. But he probably did help himself a little bit there with that 4-4740. Evan Hull out of Northwestern had like, I think, 53 catches last year.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So I wouldn't be surprised if he, he's like a waiver wire guy in week 12, like two dudes get hurt. And all of a sudden the third string guy, this rookie from Northwestern goes out there and he, you know, catches three balls in his first game and, you know, gets 15 carries. It wouldn't be shocked. Eric Gray out of Oklahoma, unfortunately, I just kind of passed him by a couple of times. So I don't have much there. I did like him at the Senior Bowl.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Next up, oh, my guy here, one of my guys. And I know Brett Whitefield likes him a lot. I interviewed Izzy Abanacanda or Israel, as his formal name, is that a pit? Really like this guy. I happen to grow up in the same neighborhood that I lived in in Brooklyn, New York, and Flatbush when I was a little kid. So we had that in common. We talked about a little bit.
Starting point is 00:17:39 But real solid interview. didn't run. He was dealing with some sort of issue. May have been a groin, or maybe I'm thinking of Tadje Spears, who I'll get to in a moment. So I guess he did not run, but I could tell you, his tape is good,
Starting point is 00:17:57 wait for the 2023 prospect guide. I kind of asked him, you know, I told him basically that, like, watching him, I couldn't quite figure out if he was kind of a sustaining grinder or a burst explosive, this guy. And he was like, you know, yeah, I have both those elements in my game. He's not a stud, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But I actually slotted him as the number five running back here pre-draft for my rankings, my personal rankings, which will be up at FantasyPoint.com in our best ball rankings, which actually are right now. I'm going to revise them this week. But, yeah, overall, not a ton. You know, the tape looks good. My interaction with them, my interview I thought was very good. good. So I'm a fan of Izzy Abanakanda. He's one of my guys. Next guy I interviewed was
Starting point is 00:18:47 Roshan Johnson at Texas. I made it a point to interview Abanacanda and Roshan. I put in for guys. I got a lot of them that I wanted, but not all. But another guy that Brett Whitefield is pretty high on. He's another senior bowl guy. He actually tweaked something early in the week. So I actually didn't see any of them. But Brett Whitefield is pretty high on. He's another senior bowl guy. He actually tweaked something early in the week. so I actually didn't see any of them, but Brett did. He did look good for very limited exposure down there in Mobile. But good tape, you know, he was a backup, so minimal tread on the tires. I talk with him about that.
Starting point is 00:19:22 But I could tell you, man, very, very mature young man, very serious dude. You could clearly see how Bijan Robinson views him as like a great teammate. Unfortunately, he didn't test all that well. the vert was very underwhelming and the broad was okay so explosiveness might not be his thing and he ran a 45840 which isn't great but you know quality running back might just be a number two but a damn good one and I do think he has the potential to you know see significant snaps for certain teams like the LA Chargers who've been looking for a bigger back to team with Austin Ecliffe forever I think Roshan Johnson, Rochon Johnson, would be the best guy that they've taken a shot on over the last
Starting point is 00:20:11 couple of years. I'm talking like Larry Roundtree, even Isaiah Spiller, and of course Joshua Kelly, none of which have really stood out. Bejon, I did not interview, but man, I did tweet a quick pick. I snuck of Bejohn just built well put together, very impressive physique. You know, we're in business of checking out dudes let's be honest here we're we're looking at physiques well how big they are and uh i would say bejean was the most oppressive physique i've saw from a runnerback in in my 15 years i'm really thinking back um maybe jonathan taylor uh yeah jonathan taylor and bejohn i'm still not sure who's the better prospect honestly but um absolute stud seemed like a great dude too uh from from what i gathered here moving on uh tajy spey
Starting point is 00:21:04 years was next. I did interview Tajay for quite some time. Very solid. Real solid. You know, I really wanted him because I thought he was unbelievable at the senior bowl. And, you know, he talked about how he, you know, is just out there reacting. So he's one of these instinctual, natural players who's got really good spatial awareness. So don't, you know, if you're, if you ever run into the guy. I'm going to say like if you're a reporter, don't ask him about a run or a play. You know, what were you thinking during that play? Because he wasn't. He was just reacting. That's his deal. And it's pretty evident on tape. Hand came in. I mean, I shook the dude's hand. I can't recall thinking it was huge, but some of the bigger hands in the class, so that's good.
Starting point is 00:21:56 He could catch the ball. He did not run because he was dealing with a groin issue that he told me about on Saturday, of days ago doing this here on Tuesday, March 7th, but he will be running at his pro day, which is coming up. So that's interesting because, you know, he did weigh in at 201, which is certainly better than, you know, 194, I think is what he was. So he's bulked up a little bit. I talked to him about that. You know, he didn't really say anything about the 40 because he wasn't going to run it. But, I mean, that's really the question. Can you bulk up a little bit if you're Taje Spears and still run well. I assume he'll potentially be a 4-4 guy, but one of my favorite running backs in this class
Starting point is 00:22:39 for sure and a good vibe there from Tajay Spears. Grow up a Saints fan, by the way, you know, went to Tulane. He's from that area. And I said, oh boy, you know, Alvin Camara, he could be a good pick for those New Orleans. Saints, Jacques Charbonnet or Zach Charbonnet. I didn't get a chance to interact with much. I will say I did see him and was near him on. the set there.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It's serious. Seems like a real nice young, young man there. Didn't test particularly well. Although, yeah, I guess the 4-5-340 is okay for Zach Charbonnet. Moving on here, take a little bit more time.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I thought going through all these vibes here for the NFL scouting combine. And again, I'm not necessarily our, you know, talent evaluator, our NFL scout and all that. I'm just kind of information
Starting point is 00:23:31 gathering. I just want to get the right answer to the test. And so I'm looking at all the data points on these players. I'm watching their tape not as extensively as Brett. I'm looking at Brett's write-ups for the forthcoming 2023 prospect guide. I'm talking to other reporters there at the Combine. I'm interacting with these people myself, sometimes for, you know, as long as an eight to nine minute sit-down interview, adding it all up, coming out. out of it with my vibes for these dudes here. So we've already been to the quarterbacks and the running backs. Let me barrel through the wide receivers here.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I have no idea what order my list is. So this is, I guess, somewhat random. But I'm going to start with Jonathan Mingo. Another guy I interviewed, nice guy, pretty serious guy. A lot of these dudes I interviewed were not exactly bursting with personality unlike other years, but real solid. you know, not going to hold it as a strike against them, although I do dig me some good personality.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I will say that, like Rashad White last year, or John Mechie, one of my favorite interviews of all time. But anywho, Jonathan Mingo out of Old Miss, serious dude, I talk with him about, you know, carrying on that tradition of big receivers from Old Miss, and he talked about D.K. and A.J. Brown being big-time mentors to him. He actually tested pretty well here. did well on the vert and bench press 22 threw it up there 22 times which is second most in the
Starting point is 00:25:08 class so i mean he came out of this a little bit of a winner here uh you're looking for a more of a sizable uh wide receiver came in at 220 uh with big ass hands too um over 10 inches uh arms okay not too shabby um moving on didn't get a chance to interview or interact with a lot of these guys I will say, Cedric Tillman out of Tennessee, whose dad also named Cedric Tillman played in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:25:36 was a DB for the Broncos, was outstanding. Probably my favorite interview overall at the combo. Very pleasant young man, very sizable guy. Unfortunately, didn't test all that great in the 10-yard split or the 40,
Starting point is 00:25:53 although at 6-3, I guess, 4-5-4 isn't, that's probably about out. average, right? That's like what Devante Adams ran. I know he was a four or five guy. I'm not sure if he was four or five, four, but it sounds about right. He did solidly, at least in the vert with 37, but again, I can report very, very strong young man, solid dude. Cedric Tillman. Seems like he was brought up correctly by his father and prepared pretty well for all this. He seemed very experienced. Didn't interact with Don Tavia.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Dantavian Wicks, unfortunately. Yeah, so there were so many of these receivers. One guy I didn't meet, and I really wanted to, was Michael Wilson at a Stanford, but he was very impressive at the Senior Bowl. I know our guys are all over that one there. Trey Palmer at a Nebraska, another Senior Bowl guy didn't necessarily see a ton from him. Although I do remember a couple of plays now that I truly think about it. Now that I see that this 4-3-40 is in the books here, 433, Trey Palmer.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I'm sure he helped his stock there, six foot 192, so he was a little slight, but hey, he ran a 4-3-340, and then the 10-yard split looked pretty good. He didn't do anything else. Moving on. Now, Kishan Bouti, Boutéchon. Oh, no, it's Bouti. Damn, this is still confusing me. I literally asked the man himself like three days ago, it's a booty.
Starting point is 00:27:23 I did tell him, you know, there's a lot we can do with this. We can go Bouté. we can go booty and didn't really get a lot of laughs there. It turns out it was a precursor to his testing, which did not go well. So he's got a little bit of an off-to-field concern there. A lot of people thought he should have returned for another year at LSU. Didn't present all that well, to be perfectly frank about it. And then the next day he went out there and didn't test all that well.
Starting point is 00:27:51 So not great there. Puka Nakua from BYU. I did not get a chance to meet him. I wanted to, though. I guess he didn't do anything here, but he did look good at the Senior Bowl. I could tell you that. Next up, it's my guy that I'm stealing kind of from Brett Whitefield
Starting point is 00:28:12 because it was his guy initially, but I was there too, though, and watching Rishi Rice out of SMU, and I watched the highlights and I watched the clips. Rock solid, not a burner, but really good vibe. on him. Obviously, the tape was good. I gave him my observations from the senior bowl saying that, you know, may not have caught a bunch of balls, but he was open and the quarterback play wasn't all
Starting point is 00:28:37 that good. He kind of seemingly agree with that. Good dude, though. I even gave him a couple of lines from the forthcoming 2023 prospect guide at fantasypoints.com, a little preview to Rishi Rice himself about, you know, basically him having that dog in him. And he laughed and wholeheartedly agreed with Brett Whitefield's assessment on that. Can't remember the exact wording on that. But you'll see it in the draft guide or the prospect guy. Just know that Rishi Rice himself totally agree with that assessment. But overall, really good vibe from him.
Starting point is 00:29:13 He did well in the vert as well. Running, it's not his deal. He's not a speed guy per se, but I guess a 4-5-1. That's not great. But again, that's not his game. He's a little bit more of a possession guy, physical guy, very pleasant guy, I will say. So maybe he's another one of these guys who are, you know, always, when I think about a guy like that, I always think of Pierre Garsohn, like the nicest guy in the world off the field.
Starting point is 00:29:42 But, man, you get that guy between the lines there, man. The guy became a real a hole out there. I mean, that is a compliment. Moving on. Yeah, I didn't see. much else here. Oh, I will say Josh Downs out of North Carolina who was pretty good, you know, running a 4-4840 and a 38.5 vert,
Starting point is 00:30:05 which was pretty good. Came in, you know, he's a little undersized and a little slight at 171, but he was great. Really good interview, really good kid, very mature. He knows what's up. So, yeah, I feel pretty good about him after that because, you know, the tape was pretty good too. Dude scored, I think, 11 touchdowns. last year at North Carolina. Real good vibe there. Zay Flowers, man, I just missed him.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I did say hello to him and told him he looked good holding that new weight that he added and seemed like a nice kid here. 185. Is that what he weighed in that? 182? Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Ran a 4-4-240. Overall, I wouldn't say he was unbelievable. the arms and the came in a little light there as well but i still like them uh and you know very very brief interaction uh got a good vibe there from him jail and hide i you know and this one is probably the worst one you can go off of uh you know you want to go off this tape i guess he tested okay i didn't get a great vibe from that guy uh this one here is probably the least meaningful one of all of them uh just it's i can't really articulate it um But let's just say it this way.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I can see why he's, I guess, considered like more of a speed specialist, kind of a space player, if you will. Yeah, just maybe I'm being unfair with that one. But I remember thinking to myself, wow, okay. Maybe this guy might have some trouble. He just looked a little slight to me, I guess. I mean, very slight, actually. I think that's kind of what was a little startling.
Starting point is 00:31:47 He is only 176 foot, so he's not the biggest guy out there. take that for what it's worth that one there could be worth very little although we'll match it to you know how he starts out in the career and see if there's any correlation there um did not get morvin mims although he really helped himself did not get the princeton kid he tested very well andre los los vivas los i will say i thought his hands were shaky uh at the senior bowl a lot of body catching there so uh jordan addison i did not in interact with but hey i mean no matter how you slice it uh not great uh you came in you know 173 uh very slight didn't test very well you got it down to a four four nine uh the first one was i think
Starting point is 00:32:34 four five something and then the vert wasn't good or the broad so uh you know people are going to have to completely trust the tape on that one there with jordan addison and then last but not least i did like tank dell i interviewed tank dell um he didn't take test very well, I guess. I mean, 4-940 was, you know, I mean, he's a tiny guy here. But he did talk about how he's been dealing with these questions about his lack of size forever. He's used to it, part of the course, all that. But, you know, the results, the data, the history of small receivers, it is what it is. But I did, I will say, for what it's worth there, my opinion of Tank Dell improved after spending about five, six minutes shopping it up with
Starting point is 00:33:19 them. And then last but not least, the tight ends. I always have a good vibe on these tight ends in general because they're like the opposite of divas yet they're receivers and their skill players so i mean these are always my favorite dudes i've got story upon story of great interactions with the tight ends at the combine probably the first one well maybe not the first one but the most impactful one for me was Travis kelsey when i back then you would go to the combine and it'd be a little conference room where they'd bring out the top guys each of the top guys at their position would get their own podium. And then the secondary guys would get like a roundtable
Starting point is 00:33:58 and then they could just be available for 20 minutes to, you know, talk to reporters who pull up to that table. Well, I'm looking, I walk in in there and like, oh, I see the Titans are coming in. I walk in my, where's Kelsey? Where's he at? And I'm like, they didn't give Kelsey a podium? So I go to Kelsey who is sitting at the roundtable by himself almost.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And I basically said like, oh, man, this is bullshit. you didn't get a podium and he's like for real uh and that was it um then i interviewed him and talk with him and i loved kelsey uh coming out of cincinnati and uh anyway that's one thing uh one little interaction where uh you know i'm like this dude's an alpha this dude's a stud uh give him some love and you know that was backed up at the combine what happened hall of fame career uh correlation perhaps luck perhaps but Been doing this for a while. Let's take a look here at the tight ends that I talk with.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I will say I didn't interact with Darnell Washington, but he was very similar to Anthony Richardson. I'm like, that dude was born in like 01 or 02, whatever it was, like a 37-year-old man. He, you know, did pretty well here. I see in the shuttle. The vert, though, a little underwhelming there, but, you know, no surprise. He was massive. but I guess maybe not a great overall combine for him, but not a bad vibe at all.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Didn't get a chance to interact with the top guys, unfortunately. I did like Luke Schoonmaker out of Michigan who did test pretty well. Very smart guy. You know, I went to Michigan. Good dude for what it's worth. Like I said, most of these guys are good dudes. Who else did I hit up? Oh, my guy out of Miami.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Will Mallory. Now that there's a guy. That's my guy. I remember sitting at the senior bowl being impressed by him, Scott Barrett as well. We were both like, wow, wow, this guy moves pretty well. And lo and behold, he ran the fastest 40. So I tweeted a picture of me and him out that I took after the interview and Will liked it and started following me. So, you know, I have a couple of players, several of them like this where I send him some words of encouragement via DM after they follow me on Twitter. But really good vibe on Will Mallory. He didn't test incredibly well. He did, I guess, come in a little small overall, I guess, 239. Hands weren't huge. So I guess it wasn't all a, you know, a victory lap here for Will Mallory. But for what it's worth, I mean, at least he matched what I saw in my eyeballs there at the practice field immobile by running the best 40 at the scouting combine. Okay, well, just went through it all here. I just kind of emptied out all the vibes that I have. Of course, just kind of a part of the puzzle, a piece of the puzzle. I am still gathering up all intel on all these dudes. Our guy, Brett Whitefield and others are working on the 2023 prospect guide
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