Fantasy Football Today - 01/13: Playoff Thoughts, Browns Coach, and More! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: January 13, 2020

We begin the show with players who impressed us (1:00) and players who did not impress us (7:00) in the divisional round of the playoffs. Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce were on fire, but Lamar Jackson and George Kittle were let downs ... The Browns hired former Vikings OC Kevin Stefanski as their head coach, so we discuss how this move will impact Baker Mayfield, Nick Chubb, and the rest of the Browns weapons (15:25) ... We then discuss the 2020 Fantasy value of players on eliminated teams (21:45). Is Lamar Jackson a first round pick? Can Hollywood Brown and D.K. Metcalf take major next steps? Do we prefer Adam Thielen or Stefon Diggs? ... And we finish by answering your rapid-fire keeper questions via email ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. And then there were four.

Four teams remaining with Super Bowl aspirations and four teams ready to go under our microscope, dissecting them for Fantasy Football 2020. One word to describe the weekend that was, Ben Schrager. Henry. That's a good word. That makes sense. Jamie?

I guess I'll just say Mahomes. That also is a good word. Crazy. Crazy is the word that I would use. I thought it was a crazy weekend. Lots of crazy stuff going on. But an enjoyable one. There was only one dud game in my opinion. There were dud moments in some of the other games, but I enjoyed it all. Anyway, welcome to Fantasy Football Today. It's Dave. It's Jamie. It's Ben Schrager. We're going to get into everything that happened in the week and what it means for fantasy in 2020 but first a player who impressed you during the

divisional round of the playoffs Ben it was Travis Kelsey I mean the guy played the least amount of snaps all year because he got hurt hamstring injury 10 catches three touchdowns dominated the game led the comeback with Patrick Mahomes Kelsey impressed me and he's going to probably make a push towards the end of the first round of 2020 drafts I really don't see why not which is where he was a big fan yeah uh he was there for me in 2019 like I didn't mind taking him toward the end of round one I know a lot of people end up taking him round two that's probably going to be where Kelsey I think he could end up being an early round two pick because I think people could look for like a stud receiver the best I think it just depends like when you get to that

eight to ten spot you know and you see what's going to be available to you in round two and if you want to just sort of get ahead of it um without having somebody you know 13 through you know 16 taking the player that you want you know so if there's a receiver that you think is going to be there in round two if there's one of those backs that you like that's you know that group of aaron jones and um i'm trying to think the other nick chubbs of the world well nick chubbs probably gonna be a first round pick but you know i i think mixing yeah you know that those groups that are going to be you know somewhere between in that 15 range you know if you if you like those guys you say okay i'll take kelsey back end around one and and be happy with it so um a lot of people like kiddo still better than kelsey though so that's gonna

be interesting you know a dilemma i think that we go through as kelsey gets a year older but it's hard it's hard to get away from what he does for andy reed and what he does for patrick mahomes obviously he was the highest scoring non-quarterback in the divisional round of the playoffs that's in non-ppr leagues and he was a monster in DFS if you had him you pretty much punched your ticket to at least some type of a cash Jamie who impressed you I mean Devante Adams was uh my favorite receiver coming into the year and obviously the the start was bad with the slow production and the um the toe injury but if they don't add a receiver he'll be number two for me behind Michael Thomas you know um DeAndre Hopkins is a stud, and he had another strong game in the losing effort for the Texans.

But you see what Adams means to this Packers offense. It's almost like what we thought of Hopkins without Will Fuller. Adam talks about this a lot. Adam Mazur talks about this a lot of how much when Will Fuller plays, it takes away from what Hopkins does. If they don't add anybody of significance, I mean, you just see how much Rodgers is locked in on what Adams does for this team, on what he's capable of doing for this team. I know we had a debate earlier in the season about Keenan Allen

and Devontae Adams was the better receiver. There was actually some, I think it was Omar Ruiz of the NFL Network said that some of the Seahawks defenders said that they compared him to Keenan Allen, who is a very excellent player, obviously, and does a lot of big things. But he doesn't have, I think, the same ceiling like Devontae Adams does. And so not to make it into Keenan Allen, Devontae Adams comparison, but I think you just see what Adams' ceiling can be on a high end. And, you know, it's not a lot of competition for targets in that offense.

Eight catches, 160 yards, two touchdowns, just a monster game, the best wide receiver of the week for sure. And yes, DFS lineups with Adams and Kelsey probably got you more than the min cash in the past week. I think Adams' quarterback was one of the most impressive players, and I was thrilled to see Aaron Rodgers go out there and play like I remembered Aaron Rodgers as before. Because there were times this year where Aaron Rodgers

just did not look as good as we remembered. Certainly we drafted him as a top three quarterback. He didn't finish as a top three quarterback. But he had himself a really – I thought he had a great game against Seattle and ended up being a pretty easy matchup for him. And then Adams was the guy that he connected with. Loved the play at the end of the game to basically ice it with the rainbow lob to the sideline with Adams.

I also thought that the play calling was really good for Green Bay in the game. It's been kind of the same for them all season long. Great start. They kind of struggle in the second half. And then they come through at the end. And then, you know, like Roger said in in postgame interview uh we started strong we finished strong you know and the thing with rogers is that i don't think statistically in this offense that this thing stays the same and if they win a super bowl i would change it um he's gonna have to carry

the team because the defense is great the run game is strong and not that he's a game manager by any stretch because he could still make every throw that you need him to make. But he just doesn't have the same ceiling that we're used to seeing from him. And so, you know, when we went through our top ten quarterbacks, he was on, I think, three of the five lists as the eight to ten guy. And, you know, it's funny because Heath brought up the point of ryan tannehill versus rogers this was at peak tannehill you know when we were talking about this of his stats um i still think most people will take rogers over tannehill but you know the fact that he's in that conversation now is is kind of speaks volumes to where rogers is statistically he could still throw it as well

as anybody in the league if they asked him to throw the ball 35 plus times on a consistent basis, he'd probably be a top five fantasy quarterback. I just don't think that's what this offense caters to. Do you think he throws 35 times against San Francisco? He's probably going to have to. I think so too. So the numbers that he had, 16 of 27, 243 yards, two touchdowns. He also rushed for 14 yards.

See, that's not a great fantasy day. That's a good fantasy day. It's not a great fantasy day. I agree, but i think he can be better than that next week he'll might have some turnovers along the way and i think he'll have a chance to impress again so while he wasn't even close he wasn't even a top four fantasy quarterback this past with russell wilson had more fantasy points than he did i still was impressed with how he did honorable mention to marquise brown by the way i thought brown that one-handed catch that he had late in the game where lamar's throwing into triple coverage it's a total yolo ball he came up with it i i'm excited to draft him in 2020 so if one of you had taken rogers i

would have said marquise brown all right a player who did not impress you did not come through did not meet your expectations would you like to go first jamie eisenberg lamar jackson was a was a letdown not that he uh is at fault completely for what this you know loss was for baltimore but you know this is just what the the the the flaw in the system is when he has to you know throw the ball 50 times that's not what the ravens want to do it's not his strength and you know the turnovers were something that we're not used to seeing from him uh the fumble in their own territory the the interceptions. Constant pressure, too.

Yeah, I mean, again, it's not on him, but you expected him to be great. And this is now two straight playoff games where he's looked mediocre. And so that's the thing that he's going to have to overcome. It's going to be the unfortunate storyline for the Ravens all of 2020 is can he win a playoff game? I hope that's the motivation that he needs to have another MVP season because that would be great for us. But it was just a little shocking to see against that Titans defense

that he played as poorly as he did. And kudos to Tennessee and Dean Peace and what they did and sort of making things frustrating for him. How much of that do you think came down to not having his Mark Ingram really healthy, Mark Andrews really healthy? Those are guys he relied on all year long. They took him out of their game plan. I mean, it was great um you know i didn't think marking was going to play healthy

uh to begin with the fact that he was still limited in practice all week long i mean you know we we had the show last week where i kept saying gus edwards um you know i thought that that's should have been the the lead rusher for them um you know he had another game with his you know rushing averages over five um so he probably could have done a little bit better job if they gave him more work and maybe Justice Hill as well. But, yeah, you're right, not having Ingram at 100%, not having Mark Andrews at 100%. It's not his fault that the defense couldn't tackle Derrick Henry.

Oh, yeah. His performance is not the reason why the Ravens lost, but you're just used to seeing him do some different things statistically he was a star I mean obviously when you know you look at his rushing and what he did but you know just the this is the next evolution of Lamar Jackson is um they need to get him another maybe one or two outside weapons like Marquise Brown like you said Dave was great but um yeah I don't know if Willie Sneed or Seth Roberts are going to be the answer right those guys aren't aren't stars, and Marquise Brown's not polished.

And so there's a lot more left to see what this offense can bring, and we'll see if they have to replace two key offensive linemen. If Yonda and Saffold aren't brought back because of either retirement, Yonda's talked about that before. We'll see about Saffold, what his long-term plans are, or I guess short-term plans at this point. But that's the next step for him is becoming a better passer. And it's not that he's a bad passer by any stretch,

but he's got to be able to do Mahomes. When you're down multiple scores, bring your team back and finish. The drive at the end of the first half, they score a touchdown there. It's probably a different ballgame going into the second half. How often were the Ravens down by two scores this year it didn't happen exactly because they were on top of teams early and then they were able to just coast to victories and they couldn't do that in this game it was a dream season for Baltimore just you know nightmare ending absolutely absolutely and and and like you said Jamie you can't put

this on Lamar Jackson he's still going to be a great fantasy quarterback. And I couldn't stand the reaction of people on Twitter saying, well, I told you so. Like, are you kidding? He just had an MVP type season and he had a great game statistically here. He had a great fantasy game. He didn't have a great game. Obviously. Right. Well, that's what I'm talking about.

If he had had a great game, they probably would have won. But that didn't happen. I still think he's got a lot of room to grow. I think if there's one thing that I'm nervous about, it's that Tennessee laid out a blueprint for how to try and slow him down, try and get him going sideways. Sure, but people thought the Chargers

did too in the playoffs last year. But I don't know how many teams tried to do what the Chargers did with loading up on defensive backs. I would think that there was probably some of that at some point during the season. I don't remember exactly going back through every game, but you don't see that take him away the way that they did. Sure.

Try and emulate it in some way, shape, or form. But you have to have a pass rush and the defensive backs to sort of play the way they did. And really by the Chargers, it was by design because they – or I'm sorry, not by design. It was, you know, they had to do it because their linebackers were so beat up. And it just happened to work out very well for them that it did i almost want to throw out that game against the charges for lamar because it was his first year he really got thrown into it late in the year because the ravens weren't doing so well this one is a little bit more of one that he can learn from and one that we can learn from too lamar jackson number one fantasy quarterback for anybody

in this room 100 yes number one overall I'm saying. When draft day comes, he's at the top of your quarterback ranking. Yes. He is. I don't know that I'm going to take him because I think his price point's going to be too high. It's going to be too high. But he is my number one.

He's going to be a top five overall pick based on average opposition. I think that's an easy... Mahomes was seven. Yep. So when you look at Jackson and the rushing and everybody's going to fall in love with it, and the off-season storylines will be,

I'm motivated to overcome this. And, you know, I want to repeat as MVP. And when they add that weapon, oh, my goodness. Yeah, they'll bring in somebody, you know, whether it's a rookie. You know, if they keep the offensive line for the most part intact, I don't know what their plans are for Ingram. You know, he's going to be 31. It's December when he's 31, but he'll be 30, you know, to open the season.

So what they do there is going to be key. What they do to add to Marquise Brown and Mark Andrews is going to be key. But, I mean, you don't get 3,000, 1,000 from anybody. It's the first time in NFL history, so that's hard to overlook. I've got him number two. I've got Patrick Mahomes number one, but I totally get why you would have Lamar Jackson number one. Quickly, Ben, player who did not impress you.

George Kittle, big disappointment. He had seven of eight games, 15-plus PPR points over the last eight. And what does he do? Three for 16. They tried to get him in the end zone. They tried. They did. They just didn't throw very much.

And to be honest, not throwing a lot didn't really affect him during the season. In games where Garoppolo didn't throw a lot, he still put up monster performances. It was just a letdown. And unfortunately, the Niners did really well. So it's kind of's kind of like oh man his kid will really have to be that involved but don't don't take this as any sort of indication of his value no he's still going to be super valuable next absolutely Niners defense really was the superstar of that game they were all over Kirk Cousins it felt like every time there was a third down they were sacking him and it was just a brutal second half especially for Minnesota and it just it just made it easy for San Francisco to just run down the throats of

Minnesota which they did after one of the turnovers I'm sure Kittle will have a chance to bounce back against Green Bay on Sunday mine was Duke Johnson just because he had some opportunities especially whoa Houston up 24 you think it's going to be an easy type of game where they can just run it and then all of a sudden like magically almost the the Chiefs had 28 points that game was crazy i can't wait to talk about that but duke johnson had some opportunities he didn't come through with it not an exciting player to talk about not somebody you're going to be interested in spending major draft capital on in 2020 anyway that's how we'll start this podcast and we've got three episodes of this podcast a week during the off season we've never done this before.

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Injuries, news, notes. I already talked about the Cleveland one. They're going to hire Kevin Stefanski. He's not expected to retain Todd Monken. It's going to be the West Coast offense in Cleveland. It should be pretty, I don't know. I would think that it would be okay for Baker Mayfield. I just feel like they need to address their offensive line.

Baker's got to learn to throw on the run. That's, know what uh what a Stefanski offense is going to look like it's going to be a lot of boots a lot of play action uh it's great for Nick Chubb um biggest thing they got to do is fix the offensive line I mean you know if they can solve that problem that was their biggest flaw this year you know because their skill players were great and you know now Stefanski had a great wide receiver duo of Diggs and Thielen to work with he's got another great one to work with in Beckham and Landry and hopefully gets on the same page with David to Joku. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case of Freddie Kitchens. So, you know, that should be a bounce back season for the Browns if if they can sort of check their egos at the door, which was a big problem. So we'll see. What do we think of the past volume in this offense?

If they have their way, not much. Right. You know, so it'll be Nick do we think of the past volume in this offense if they have their way not much right you know so it'll be nick chubb right nick chubb will lead the way yeah that'd be great it'll be worth that first if they if they don't retain kareem hunt you know as well because that was a little bit of a downturn for chubb as we saw sure didn't get much work in the passing game and that definitely helped kareem hunt out down the stretch denver makes a change that offensive coordinator they get rid of rich scangarello. They bring in Pat Shermer. So they're just adding a lot of experience. It's the same type of offense. That's also going to be

a West Coast system. I think it's a good move for Denver. I think that you've got somebody who's been calling plays for several years and certainly last couple of years with the Giants. He'll be able to come into Denver, work with Drew Locke. I think it's a good receiving core. I'm excited with what this could mean for Noah Fant

because we've seen Pat Shermer put up some really good numbers with his tight ends. Evan Ingram would have been that guy again this year if he hadn't have gotten hurt. He did have some good games before. The combo of Ingram and Caden Smith was very good. Ingram was top six in points per game. Obviously, he only played the eight games,

so he was 13.1 PPR points per game. And then Caden Smith, as we saw with Daniel Jones, didn't work out so much, the two starts that Manny made. But with Daniel Jones, those numbers were good. The one thing you look at with Shermer is he was the tight ends coach in Minnesota before getting the offense coordinator job there, and that was Kyle Rudolph's big season was when he was the play caller what do you think it means for the run game I think it keeps going with a lot

of Lindsey and Freeman or do you think one guy can potentially take over there and be the lead well LaShawn McCoy had two seasons with 300 plus carries Stephen Jackson had two seasons with 300 plus carries under Shermer I think there's a chance that Lindsey gets fed, but Royce Freeman and Lindsey, pretty similar outputs last year. So I think it's probably going to be a split, but Lindsey is the more impressive runner. I just am very curious about how the red zone touches will be split. Lindsey dominated early on this season. Then it became more of a split.

So I think it helps Lindsey a little bit, but I don't really know. It's not going to make you want to rush up and draft Phillip Lindsey with a topsey with a top he's not a bell cow just because of the move no no we'll see uh john elway was you know does want to pay lindsey right so what they do in that regard could sort of speak volumes if they're going to sort of say okay you're our guy and then freeman play out your rookie deal and you're done you know i mean you know they they've talked up freeman enough that the play has not matched the conversation. So they don't really seem to be as enamored with Royce Freeman as they talk about. No, but they might need a second bag, and who knows what the draft will bring in Denver.

Oh, they won't add anybody else that way. I hope not. I think Freeman's a capable backup. Thankfully, we haven't seen Lindsey miss any time. And look, when Lindsey's gotten feature work, he's been, when Freeman's gotten feature work, he's been pretty good. Philadelphia fired their offensive coordinator, Mike Groh, and quarterback Coast Carson Walsh. Walsh? Walsh? Walsh. We'll go with Walsh.

Mike Malarkey is retiring. He was last the tight ends coach for the Atlanta Falcons. Drew Brees has been contacted about broadcasting opportunities. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, I'd rather see Drew Brees play football than talk broadcasting opportunities. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, I'd rather see Drew Brees play football than talk about football. That's just me. He could talk about football in four years. Michael Thomas played through a broken hand against the Minnesota Vikings.

I guess the spin on his hand was more than. Julian Edelman had partially torn rib cartilage. That came out the same day that he also got arrested. That's fun stuff. Good job for Julian. I mean, he's just banging up his body and banging up Mercedes-Benzes, I guess. And according to NFL research, Ryan Tannehill joins Hall of Fame quarterback Terry Bradshaw

as the only players in the Super Bowl era to win consecutive playoff games with one or more touchdown passes and fewer than 100 yards passing. Bradshaw did it in 1974 in the AFC championship game and in Super Bowl 9 great company for Ryan Tannehill we were just talking before the show about how much the Titans should pay him and I think it makes sense to give him the franchise tag and then see what happens in 2020 it does and then when do we draft him knowing that they can succeed with him not throwing a lot and the volume really not being there he's a late round pick yeah he's gonna be you know top 15 ish would be my guess um depending on how the rookies shake out and where some of the other

free agents go because you know if drew breezes out of the way for example or tom brady goes to a different team you know that'll change you change sort of how the rankings could go. Rivers retires or plays for a different team. But I think you look at what Tannehill did pre-playoffs, it's hard to overlook that. The defense was not good for Tennessee. They played much better in the postseason. And Henry's doing things that no running back has done. So there's still a lot to like.

And that's another team that can add another piece to their passing game too i think it'll come down to schedule if ryan tanhill's early season schedule weeks one two three look good people will draft him to start as their streaming quarterback otherwise if it's a tough schedule to begin the year i bet no one drafts him well the draft we did last week the non-ppr draft i was the last one to take a quarterback and i think there were already some backups off the board at that time. So I took him round 10 or 11. So I was fine with that. And I took Baker as a second quarterback. So I'll take my chance

with that type of... Right, sure. Theoretically you'd stream with both those guys to begin the year. Alright, let's talk about the players on the teams that were eliminated in the divisional round. We'll talk about where we will rank them in 2020. Let's start with the Ravens because they've got a lot of firepower. They've got a lot of great players,

and we know Lamar Jackson will be the first quarterback taken off the board. Who are the four? It's the quarterback, the running back, the wide receiver, and the tenant. Probably so. I don't think anybody's drafted anybody else. Well, the defense, people are going to draft the Ravens defense. And the kicker. That's five. And Justin Tucker, too. I think unless, you defense, people are going to draft the Ravens defense. And the kicker. That's five.

And Justin Tucker, too. I think unless, you know, like I, in the two drafts that we did, I took Gus Edwards in both. You know, I think he's one of those handcuffs that you cover. You know, he's a lottery ticket. Because I think Ingram, calf injury, now 30. You know, if they're going to continue to lean on him, it could be a problem.

What has Gus Edwards done to lose confidence in the coaching staff? Nothing. Nothing. So I think he's going to be involved in what they do, and I think his workload could rise, and it could hurt Mark Ingram. So I wouldn't be as excited to draft Mark Ingram this year as I was last year, and we were looking at Mark Ingram around four-ish. I think that's probably going to be where he ends up going in 2020 as well.

I'm going to guess he goes a little bit lower. Just be really. Yeah, it's it's the the bad taste in your mouth of what you saw. You know, not not the just the playoff performance, the end of the season, you know, just not being there hurting, getting hurt in week 16 and not playing week 17. So, you know, you're going to hear a lot about his age and you're going to hear a lot in the fantasy community. Justice Hill, Justice Hill, Justice Hill, because that's a guy that people like. And I think the playoff performance from Justice Hill is going to have people talking even more about him.

He's on the field for pretty much all the passing snaps in this playoff game. And I think the offseason hype with Justice Hill will be pretty real. I don't know how much that'll translate, but it'll definitely hurt his draft stock. Mark Ingram. Mark Ingram, yeah.

Ingram went toward the end of round three in our first non-PPR mock. I think that that's a little bit too soon, but this is also a mock with zero rookies. We don't know what the free agency impact is going to bring to other running backs. I think it's

fine for what we are doing to provide content, but I think... Who are some other guys around him? Who are some other guys around him? at running back or just in general. Anyway, Kenyon Drake went at two picks behind him. Devin Singletary with three picks behind him. Of course, I would take Devin Singletary. Absolutely. I'm probably going to end up taking Kenyon Drake out of him, too.

It depends on where David Johnson is and what that situation. How about Philip Lindsay? David Johnson is I'm more concerned about Kenyon Drake in Arizona. I'll take him over. Philip Lindsay or Mark Ingram right now. Lindsay, I'll take ingram i think i'm gonna take lindsey over ingram just because i expect ingram to share a little bit more in 2020 mark andrews where you where you feel like he's gonna go is he a top six fantasy tight end he's for me. I have him at four as well. It's going to be tough because do you take him in the fourth round and lock up your tight end there?

Or do you wait and get a tight end late and let someone else kind of reach on an Andrews because we've seen Andrews do really well, but we know he doesn't play a lot of snaps. He doesn't have a lot of targets. He was very efficient, a lot of touchdowns this year. How much does he regress next year? It'll come down to, if he stays at four for me, what they do with their receiving core.

He finished two targets shy of 100. He would have been in that rare 100-target club at the tight end position. The touchdowns are the biggest thing because he was second in the position in touchdowns, and is that sustainable? So if people are going to, and I'm sure Keith will probably be the one driving the train, the touchdown regression from a passing standpoint for Lamar Jackson, he's the one most likely to lose. Because if Marquise Brown takes the next step, and again, whoever they add will help in that regard. But I also think that you see a little bit more from him.

He would have been over 100 targets. He had, you know, a knee injury in the middle of the season and barely played Week 17. I think he barely played Week 17. I don't remember if he was one of the guys that wasn't active but um you know you get 100 targets in this offense with what he should be you know he's he's kiddle he's kelsey you know i don't think marquise brown is going to overtake him as the target leader as the guy that's the go-to option in in greg roman's offense so i still like what mark andrews brings um but you know, you can debate Darren Waller. You can debate Hunter Henry.

You can, you know, throw Evan Ingram out there if you want to. How about Austin Hooper? Austin Hooper is another one. Yeah. You know, so that was the, when I wrote the top 10 tight ends, that was the spot where everybody differed. You know, we all had the same top three, five of us, every single one of Kelsey Kittle and Ertz.

And then it was a different number four. So it was, it was uh it was pretty interesting to see that i think of him more as a short area target and red zone threat for the ravens you would think that but yes absolutely he had more deep ball routes than any other tight end which is pretty crazy okay and you know what i remember thinking just off the top of my head doing my research on lamar jackson this time last year, Andrews was the only guy he could connect with on those deeper routes. So I'm taking back what I said. Obviously he's good at that role as well,

but I feel like that Marquise Brown could be the deep, deep shot guy, which we've seen from him before. Yeah. If they add another weapon, I think that's going to hurt Mark Andrews. He went 52nd overall in our non PPR mock too soon, too late.

That's a steal. Steal. I think it's about right. I think it's about right for him. Okay. Lamar Jackson, we already talked about him, pretty much going to be a first-round pick no matter what we say. Perfect world. Lamar Jackson would be your second-round pick. You'd take him in round two?

The turn. If he's there? Late round two. I really don't even want to take him in round two. There's too much talent, I think, that'll be there. I got Josh Jacobs at the end of late round two in our PPR mock. I would much rather have Josh Jacobs than Lamar Jackson. It's the same thing we see time and time again. Mahomes, he missed time with injury. He wasn't having the same statistical outburst that we saw in his MVP season.

There's going to be something with Lamar Jackson that drops his stats down, whether it's five touchdowns, whether it's 100 rushing yards, whether it's 400 rushing yards. One thing we talked about during the season, like Pete Prisco, for example, says he expects 3,500 passing yards and about 800 rushing yards. So that clearly hurts his fantasy production. It makes him a better player, potentially. But the stat change, however it comes about,

he's not going to probably be 1,200 rushing yards again. It's just, you know, not realistic to expect that. He could, which would be great. But, you know, 43 total touchdowns, let's say that's 35. And, you know, like Dave, you have Mahomes ahead of him. He could return to being a 50-touchdown quarterback. But the biggest thing is that Mahomes was just around the number 10 quarterback in 2018 jackson was the number 14 quarterback off the board in 2019 you know so

who's going to be the guy this year you know is it kyler is it josh allen you know the two guys that finished behind him in rushing production is it going to be you know somebody else that takes that next leap that may not be the best quarterback in fantasy but could be top five you know um well you saw three of the top quarterbacks this year were late round picks jamis was the number 13 quarterback off the board he was 14 you know so those two in particular the ones that stood out to me and so he could still be top five he could still have a great season he could be top three he could be two you know but what the where you're taking him in round one again most likely to where the second third fourth fifth guy comes off the board or the 13th 14th guy comes off the board that's how you you know sort of

build your team it's why lamar jackson was so good for fantasy this year is because you're able to get him mid to late run pick yeah and i just i feel like the investment that you're gonna have to make in him he's gonna have to come close to what he did last year. I don't know if he can get 36 passing touchdowns, but I think the seven rushing touchdowns is – That could go up. Yeah. I think that that could go up.

To me, it's a close call between him and Mahomes. I think Mahomes is better than the stats that he put up in 2019, and so that's why I think Patrick Mahomes is safe for quarterback picks. But how early would you take Mahomes? Like round three. Right. So like I'm, I'm,

I'm in the same boat as you guys. I just look at the quarterbacks just a little bit different. The thing with my homes is, I mean, again, he, you know, played through the high ankle sprain,

lost the time with the knee injury, lost Tyree kill for four games. Yeah. Right. There were things that, and this could happen to Lamar Jackson. You know, he could lose Mark Andrews for,

for five, six games. He could lose Marquis Brown for two or three games. You know, he may not get another piece. five, six games. He could lose Marquise Brown for two or three games. You know, he may not get another piece. He may lose Yonda and Saffold and an offensive line could be an issue.

You know, I don't know about their free agents and whatnot, you know, so they could lose something there as we saw it hurt Derek Goff, for example, who was a great fantasy quarterback the year before.

So there are things that we still have to work through to, you know, sort of determine how good Lamar Jackson could be or how far he could fall, how much he could fail. And same thing with Mahomes. I mean, you know, there's, you know,

Sammy Watkins could be replaced by somebody better. You know, we could see, you know, Travis Kelsey have a fall off as he goes, you know, from 31 to 32. Tyreek Hill could be healthy the whole year. How about a run game? Or maybe this is the Tyreek Hill that we're getting, where we're not getting the consistent performance like we saw, which made Mahomes as good as he was in 2018.

There are things that you work through with these quarterbacks, and it comes down to the investment you make in these guys, and that sort of swings your fantasy team. which made Mahomes as good as he was in 2018. There are things that you work through with these quarterbacks, and it comes down to the investment you make in these guys, and that sort of swings your fantasy team. There are a lot of people that missed the playoffs because Mahomes was bad from the standpoint of where he was a year ago because you took him so high. And if Kansas City adds a run game, all of a sudden maybe he's not throwing quite as much, and that could be something that could hurt him a little bit.

As long as he's still a coach, he's throwing quite as much. He'll throw quite a bit. Real quick, Marquise Brown, what round would you feel comfortable taking him in? 7-8. 8-9. I got him in late round 8. I was thrilled in the non-PPR that we did. All right, so let's move on from Baltimore to Minnesota.

We'll keep it purple. Dalvin Cook, top three pick. Seems pretty simple, cut and dried. 5 for me, Liam. Yeah, he's my number three are you worried about alexander madison having a larger role similarly to what we were saying about gus edwards cutting in to mark ingram maybe but if they promote kubiak which makes the most sense just make him the official offensive coordinator i don't mind madison if that happens i'll be very happy yeah that again ben I wouldn't mind Madison getting five, six touches,

give Dalvin a little bit of rest. If Dalvin gets 15 to 20 touches, he's going to be a top five running back. Here are some stats provided by Adam Azer, who has a sick cat. That's why he's not here today. First seven games, Dalvin Cook was the number two fantasy running back in both formats. He averaged 5.5 yards per carry, 9.2 yards per catch. His last seven games, ninth in non-PPR, fifth in PPR, he averaged 3.5 yards per carry and 10.3 yards per catch.

He finished the season with eight straight games, including the postseason, averaging 3.7 yards per carry or less. The only thing with him is the injuries. You see what the upside is. We saw it in his first four games of his rookie season. We saw it in spurts in his sophomore season, you know, when he wasn't fighting the hamstring injury. And obviously this year was just a superstar campaign. But once again, wasn't on the field at the end of the season. You just always have to have that concern with him.

You know, he's just going to be one of those guys that these injuries just keep racking up for him. And they're different injuries, you know, torn ACL, hamstring, shoulder injury, you know. know so i don't want to say he's injury prone but it's hard to overlook that he hasn't played 16 games in three seasons and will he give you that and in year four when you're comparing him to elliot who never missed his time barring the suspension barkley who came back early from the high ankle sprain is really the only injury we've seen from him so far younger younger nfl career by one year but you know those are the guys you're comparing him to you know and so it's a matter of mcafree does cook go there does cook go here does cook go there and then when you're talking ppr i think michael thomas is the second best player because you know you get 140 plus catches uh that's hard to overlook

as well so um he's in that mix of uh you know two through five i think think, for most rank lists is what you'll see. I think so, too. All right. Diggs, Thielen. When? When do you pull the trigger on these guys? And who do you feel better about between the two? Thielen. I feel better about Thielen. Same?

Yeah, I'm with you. But I don't know if I'm going to be as excited to take him around 45th overall. He'll be gone before then. You think so? PPR, for sure. In PPR, I'd take him in so you are for sure and ppr i'd take him in the third round late third but i would take him in the third i don't i don't think that's necessarily uh indication that he should go there i'm just saying right okay then i'm you know you know g will occurs i can't believe that he's gonna go that high again i don't i don't know what uh what

ben gretch will finish with when we get to you, our rankings by August, but in the top 10, he had digs at 10, you know, and so that was the one that stood out to me the most of the 50 players that I looked at at the receiver spot was digs in the top 10 for anybody. You know, this was his, I think his best game on the road. He didn't play well on the road at all this year, digs. And so, you know, it seems to be a byproduct of healthy feeling not healthy feeling feeling on the field feeling not on the field and you know obviously feeling was not 100 percent with the yeah well since the return digs less than five targets a game yeah and you know if it's kubiak you got to assume things will be the same if they bring in another offense coordinator to place to fanski will that be a different system that you know they put kirk cousins and and these receivers through um clearly the defense is is fading you know it's not the

same group that we've been accustomed to the last couple years not that they were awful but you know put them in some spots where there was some bad secondary play and you know that could continue to snowball and then we see maybe some more back and forth type of games for the vikings but i think it's dalvin cook is clearly the catalyst of this offense and then it's very hard for these two guys to both be great week in week out and so it's just a matter of who do you like better I think most people will probably still take Thielen over Diggs. Thielen in our non-PPR mock went 35th overall so late round three that's non-PPR yeah and then Diggs where do you he went? Probably either in the same range or a little bit higher. 46th overall.

Azar pulled the trigger on Stephon Diggs late round four. And this was, we did this draft following the wild card round when Dillon had the monster game. I think that this can be a team that throws a little bit more. Like you guys said, I wonder if the change in coordinators on both sides of the ball impacts what Minnesota does. And Kirk Cousins, I don't know if he's going to be as good as he was this past year. So I'm kind of worried all the way around.

You do have really interesting things pulling at each other here because Zimmer and Cousins are entering contract years. So you have Zimmer who we know what he wants to be. He wants to run, play defense, conservative and you know try and keep the clock on his side and then you have cousins who's probably going to want to have a Dak Prescott type of year of you know put on a big statistical performance and show that he can still get another big contract if not stay in Minnesota on another deal so how those things play out clearly Zimmer is going to be the one pulling the strings. But we'll see how that impacts Cousins and those receivers. So I think both receivers are kind of we have enough of a sample size with Cousins to know what they are.

That Thielen has been better statistically, especially when healthy. But Diggs is going to have these splash moments and can still be good for you. I think I'll continue to say what I've said all along about him is that I don't think his stats are ever going to match the type of player that he is. He's probably capable of doing a lot more and may never fulfill that with his prime years in Minnesota with Kirk Cousins, which makes me sad, sad emoji.

When I think about that cousins and Kyle Rudolph guys that you might take with your third to last pick. If you like who they play, I wouldn't even, I think a good matchup in week one. You wouldn't even take them. I would pick them up right before week one, but I wouldn't even use a draft pick on them.

Well, if you're going to pick them up before week one, then you're just going to hold another player. I'd rather have an upside guy see what happens during training camp. Houston. DeAndre Hopkins. First of all, was his season a disappointment or was his season a moderate success? It obviously wasn't a huge success. It was a disappointment. He wasn't a bust by any means, but it was definitely a disappointment or was his season a moderate success? It obviously wasn't a huge success.

It was a disappointment. He wasn't a bust by any means, but it was definitely a disappointment. The wide receiver position was down this year, and Hopkins still top five, top ten receiver depending on format. But it was just a disappointment. He played really well with Fuller off the field, but with Fuller on the field, he kind of scared me. He wasn't that top three wide receiver that some people drafted him

at this year and some people are going to draft him out next year he was in the top five you said it ben it was down year for wide receivers it's his worst year since his rookie season non brock osweiler you know so if you're looking at it comparing it to him it was down here if you're comparing it to the position this year he was fine obviously he was this is my home so you were expecting him to be the best at his position, and he wasn't. And he was passed by Michael Thomas, who wasn't far behind in terms of draft value. But he was passed by Godwin. In some cases, you know, format matters.

But he was passed by Cooper Cupp. Julio, too, in PPR. Right. You know, again, those, you know, Thomas and Julio, you're sort of nitpicking there. But you expect him to be better than, you know, the breakout guys of Godwin and Cupp. And you expect him to be on par with what he's used to doing. So is there bounce back potential here? Or is this kind of who he is? If Fuller's healthy, now Kenny Stills, I think is still under contract for another year. And the run game hopefully will be better. You know, it was a better year for them running the ball than we've seen in the last couple of years,

because Carlos Haida was a little bit more consistent than what Lamar Miller had done so you know with a improving offensive line you know hopefully the two young kids that they drafted get better and healthy and you have tons still under contract you know so does Hopkins still have the same ceiling that we've seen when he was just completely obliterating everybody and I don't know if that's the case. He's still a great receiver. He still should be a first-round pick. He should still be one of the top five guys in the position off the board. He's not going to be drafted of Thomas.

That's clear. And then it comes down to Julio, Adams. You know, if you want to throw the two Tampa guys in the conversation, Evans and Godwins, I don't think those guys have gotten to his level yet. But, you know, they had great seasons. You know, that's just kind of where it is, I think, with Hopkins. We're starting to see maybe the slow slide, not a decline by any stretch. But, again, I still take him in the first round and no hesitation.

In PPR, I think he makes sense. In non-PPR, I don't know if I'm ready to take him in the first round. You may not, but there's no question he's going to be a first-round pick. What about Deshaun Watson? Who I think is... I've got him at number three at quarterback. It was consistent across the board.

It was Mahomes, Jackson, Jackson, Mahomes, and then Watson was three. Definitely. I feel like he'll be the best bargain of those guys because I don't think he'll go anywhere close to the first round. Lamar will be a first round pick.

He's going to go round three. Yeah. Maybe a round. Lamar will be a first-round pick. Mahomes will be. Yeah. Maybe late round two, depending on how quarterbacks go in certain leagues. I don't know if I'm ready to take him in late round two. That's something I've got to wrap my head around. But I'm saying, if we're looking ADP-wise, Jackson will be a first-round pick. Mahomes will be in the top 15. I agree.

And then Watson will be somewhere between 20 and 30. I think the only value where we see Watson is going to be in an industry draft where everyone's down in the quarterback position. And you just snag him in late round four, early round five, something like that. But most drafts he's not going to be there. I agree with that, and I think he'll be good. I feel like this year was kind of a down year for him.

He had some bad games along the way, and some monster games as well. And he also plays a lot better with Fuller too. Yeah. He needs Will Fuller because that's somebody that can get him some, some pretty big numbers. And so let's talk about Will Fuller. He was like around seven pick back in August. You know what he is?

At what point do you, do you take the risk on Will Fuller? If he's healthy going into camp, he's in the Marquise Brown range, you know, I slightly ahead just because you've seen what the ceiling can be. And Marquise Brown, I think, wants to get to where Will Fuller is because there's a similar type of players.

You know, I mean, Brown should have a higher ceiling because hopefully he becomes the featured guy in his offense, whereas Fuller's never going to be that player. But, I mean, the talent is exceptional. It's hamstring, it's knee, it's ankle, it's, you know, all these things that just contribute to him not staying on the field. And it's just become increasingly frustrating. What do you make of his three touchdowns this year, all coming in one game? Just more of the narrative.

He could have had another three touchdown game against the Chiefs too, you know? So there's just that, that's what he is. You know, I mean, he's got the chance to be a thousand and eight, a thousand and ten. You know, he's just that type of player, but that could be over five games. You know, it's just, that's the, that's the problem. I'm wondering if, if the clock is hit zero on him already and that he's not going to be ever close to getting to that one thousand.

This will be his fifth year option, right? Fifth year coming up. Yeah. So I'm assuming they're picked up if they haven't already. I'm sure they will. And so he's going to be locked in as their two. The stats for Deshaun Watson bear it out. So, you know, as long as he's on the field, there's always a chance for great performances. He feels very much like a Sammy Watkins, you know,

never going to live up to his potential based on when we see greatness. It's amazing, but it's not consistent i think i'm ready to take marquise brown ahead of him understandable i think marquise brown has just a little bit more upside i know that the the quarterback is terms of just pure passing ability watson's got it ahead of lamar jackson but i still feel like that brown who's got his own injury issues they are kind of the same player very similar you think about yeah i mean you you hope that brown exceeds what will fuller is right now like i'd rather take him in round eight than will fuller in round eight although i wouldn't mind getting both of them and just going with

the one who i think is gonna play well if you take two receivers early and then you want to you know get a number three guy that has upside or two number three guys that have upside these are the perfect great flex combo yeah for sure what about so some guys that were drafted receivers that were drafted ahead of them in our non-ppr mock christian kirk robbie anderson and marvin jones are you taking any of those three ahead of either of those i would take kirk ahead of those two in in ppr yeah i get that i think there's more upside for him catching the ball but i mean robbie Anderson, if he stays with the jets, you know, that's the same player. It's, you know, it's, he might be the same player. If he goes to the jets, the Eagles, the dolphins, it almost might not matter, but you know, these are the type of guys that just have not been

consistent 70 plus catch guys. They haven't been consistent staying on the field. They haven't been consistent in their production week in week out. I mean, it's funny it feels like we're doing marvin jones a disservice because he was better than all of them this year yeah it's true uh carlos hyde duke johnson i assume that one or both could get replaced lamar miller will probably go right back to the hide role as my guess if he's ready to go that's a spot they just need to upgrade yeah that's that's how i feel about it too they they and i also think they're still going to need to address their offensive line it's not as big of a concern as it was this time last year yeah they're probably through for agency

uh they're they're a team that seems to be kind of in trouble their defense might not be so good next year they might have to do a little bit of scoreboard chasing. That makes me like Deshaun Watson. I'm starting to, maybe I will end up taking Deshaun Watson in late round three. I don't know if their defense gets worse than what it was this year because it was pretty bad. I don't know how it gets a lot better. Seattle, they're out. Russell Wilson was awesome as a quarterback for most of this year,

as a fantasy quarterback. He left a lot to be desired. He still was top five, though. He was. I wish he was a little more consistent because his big games were big and his bad games were kind of crappy. Yeah, I feel like we've seen

a little bit more consistency from him in the past. I can't say statistically when it happened. That's his whole career. He gives you a 40 game and then he gives you 10 and then he gives you 25 and then he gives you 15. All right, so what is it going to take for him to be a consistent fantasy quarterback schottenheimer leaving probably and then realizing that running on first and second down for the first three quarters until you're in a tie ball game or you're chasing points and then making

russ wilson be superman i mean you know it's just it's stupid it's it's totally stupid at this point but this is what they are i mean it's worked for worked for them, so kudos to them. But, you know, you have, I'll say, three very good parts. Tyler Lockett had a breakout season, like we thought, you know, 1,000 yards for the first time. Targets went up. He was successful. DK Metcalf, great rookie receiver. Hopefully will improve in his second year.

And I think the combination of their tight ends, whether it was Disley or Hollister, good third piece. You know, they tried to get another option with Josh Gordon. It failed. We'll see what they do, you know, maybe to add another receiving option there. And hopefully Chris Carson's healthy, but, you know, the combo of Carson, Penny, if that's not right, and, you know, they've tried over the last couple years to get a receiving back in CJ Proceiss.

Maybe they add another player there. Maybe it's Travis Homer who, you know, did some nice things at the end of the season in that role. But this is what they are. It's just a matter of they need to fix their defense. That's the biggest flaw for the Seahawks. It's like Houston, yeah. And so if this continues to be their defense,

then maybe that helps Russell Wilson. But he was also three and four were the same quarterbacks across the board for us. So it was Jackson Mahomes, Watson three, and Wilson was four. It's almost like you don board for us you know so it was jackson mahomes watson three and and wilson was four it's almost like you don't know who else to put it for so you just go ahead and well so wilson you know it's uh you know breeze who knows rogers has fallen off brady's fallen off you know i don't think anybody's ready to put as we you know saw last year you know the next hot flavor of the month which was baker mayfield um ahead of rus ahead of Russell Wilson, which would be Kyler Murray, my guess,

is going to be everybody's favorite breakout candidate. So I don't think anybody's taking Kyler over Russell. We could get to that point, though. It's just going to take a lot from Arizona for us to get there. It would probably be a mistake. I'm guilty of saying Baker was going to have a breakout season. And ADP, last year, Russell Wilson was just inside the top 10. He was the ninth quarterback off the board.

Again, mistake. I think we just come to expect Russell Wilson to put up great numbers. It doesn't always mean it's going to happen week in, week out, but you just have to understand who he is. Year over year, he is a great, consistent quarterback in terms of total production. But the week-to-week stuff this year is really frustrating. Right, you've got to eat it.

You've got to just deal with it. And now you're facing a division that, you know, probably going to be some shootouts with the Rams. You know, we've seen that from those two teams when they meet. You're probably going to be chasing points against the 49ers or in a game where he's going to have to be Superman again. And then if Arizona's offense takes the next step, then that could be a game where, you know,

we're seeing some more shootouts where they've just sort of trampled the division during most of Russell Wilson's tenure. He hasn't had to do very much. The Arizona game this year was a big example of that. We thought, okay, here's Arizona. They're just giving up points after points after points. It was the first meeting, and he was the first one not to go over 20 fantasy points against

the Cardinals because they just ran all over it. This is a team that's very much in flux with their run game and their defense, as we saw at the end of the year. But not their quarterback. He was the number one quarterback in fantasy in 2017. He was number eight in 2018.

He was fourth in consistency in 2018. 11 of 16 games with 20-plus fantasy points. Just didn't have a lot. And this is 2018 I'm talking about. He only had three games with 30-plus. So he was good that year on a per-game basis. Only had a couple of duds here and there. But he didn't reach those huge highs.

I don't think he was ever the number – or once. No, not at all. 2018 was he the number one quarterback. And in 2019, I think he was one time he had the best game of any quarterback in terms of fantasy. So I get him as a top four fantasy quarterback. Who are you taking first lockett or metcalf lockett for me i kind of i kind of like what dk metcalf can bring metcalf

finished better than lockett lockett was better over the course of the season it's just where's the ceiling lie for metcalf because i think this is the ceiling for lock, you know, he did struggle with a couple of injuries, you know, and who knows how long it took him to get back to full strength following the hospital stay in San Francisco and then the flu. You know, that little stretch really, I think, put a damper on what his season was. I want to see what else they do. If they keep Lockett in the slot, you know, because he stepped up for Doug Baldwin, you see what the numbers are.

You know, first time over 100 targets. The receptions were great. His yards per catch came down, but that's to be expected when he's getting more targets. And he was just very, very good over the course of the year. But he's Russell Wilson at the receiver spot. There's going to be big games. There's going to be bad games.

There's going to be a lot of inconsistent performances. I think Metcalf can maybe be a little bit better, but I think Lockett's certainly safer so it's a matter i think what your preference is you know are you taking the the receiver with the pacifier are you taking the one that's been proven what do you think dave uh well i'm checking to see lockett finished as the 12th court 12th wide receiver rather in ppr 231 fantasy points he had a 32 point game and he had a 40-point game. So those really helped push him up to be a little bit bigger than that.

But he also had the three duds when he had the flu and when he wasn't healthy. Oh, I mean, yeah, he had a pretty bad stretch with the leg flu deals that he had. And he only had two good games to round out the year, week 15, 26 points. Week 17, which no one really used him for unless you played into week 17, he had 17 points that week.

I think that he can be what he was at the beginning of the season, but I think DK Metcalf is going to be just such a problem because he's got the same type of speed that Tyler Lockett has. He's not as good as a route runner, but he can make improvements in his second season, and I think he's got a chance to be certainly more dominant in the red zone remember what did he start the year with was it nine end zone targets or red zone targets and he didn't even catch any of them and then he finally and then it was the atlanta game he had two touchdowns so it took him a while to really get going this year i would expect him to improve in his second year and if this offense does end up throwing a

little bit more he can end up with more touchdowns than tyler lockett and maybe as many targets catches and yards well it wasn't far off i mean it was 11 targets difference you know the only thing was the you know 82 catches for 58 you know he was 100 yards apart essentially and one touchdown you know so i also you know think if will disley's healthy you, the numbers were certainly different for Metcalf when Disley was on the field versus when Disley was off the field. So Disley is probably going to be our second favorite tight end among the teams that we're talking about here.

Baltimore, Minnesota, Houston, Seattle. If he's healthy. I mean, it's a tough injury to come back from. Is he somebody that you're going to target late on draft day, especially if the schedule is nice for Seattle to begin the season? All depends on health. I mean, he's coming back from an Achilles tear. This is now two injuries, back-to-back years, where he hasn't been able to begin the season. All depends on health. You know what I mean? He's coming back from an Achilles tear. This is now two injuries, back-to-back years

where he hasn't been able to finish the season. He was great. He was absolutely great. And, you know, I think they, you know, Hollister had some great moments too. He just wasn't as explosive. But I think if you get to the point in your fantasy draft where people are taking two tight ends

and you didn't take one, this is a great fallback option. I't care what the schedule is but maybe they open to arizona that'd be nice amazing but uh you know there there's there's a lot to like about what russell wilson has done with the tight end in his career you know jimmy graham for one season and you know disley for parts of two others the last two years speaking of injuries there's chris carson can he be a top 12 fantasy running back nor should he be i don't see it i'm not saying drafted as one because i agree with you on that he's not going to get drafted as a top 12 running back and i almost wonder if he would if he hadn't have gotten hurt could he have ended up being a second round pick and not sure not no and he won't be a second round pick you know he's he's a would he have been if he didn't get hurt i

think because now he's definitely not if penny didn't get hurt? I think it's now he's definitely not. If Penny didn't get the chance to emerge late in the season. Yes, sure. But when Penny was on the field for those majority of snaps, a lot of touches. Carson had the one really good game, but also a really bad game. So it's scary with Penny in the mix and coming off the injury. I don't think he should be. But they're both coming off injuries, you know, so Penny may not be ready to go at the start of the season.

Carson is expected to be fine, you know uh but you have to wonder you know with this is my fear with henry too it's you know these physical running backs they're able to do it over a short span it's just they don't do it over a long span and this is you know kind of why people get scared about paying running backs because of what the contact that they've taken you know so two of three years now for carson he hasn't been able to finish the season the ankle injury in his rookie year and now this hip injury and so for a guy that runs to contact what's the concern this is the concern you know and so do the Seahawks add somebody else now to pair with Penny and Carson knowing that they may not be 100% as a

duo for training camp is it Homer is it bringing back Marshawn Lynch just as a band-aid you know just in case they need him to be this guy again? But you see what this offense is. I mean, nine touchdowns for Carson on the ground, or nine total touchdowns, excuse me. Marshawn Lynch scored four touchdowns in three games. So they used their backs outside of the one time at the goal line. So he's very good.

It's just a matter of... he can he hold up yeah and and what's the and can he fend off rashad penny or or it's a lot of questions someone else it's a lot of questions for a guy who went in early round three in our non-ppr mock and i love the talent and i love the fit don't love the offensive line. I think that, you know, next year ago. Yeah, I guess you're right. I almost wonder if he's a, he'd obviously be one of those guys that you'd prefer to get a little bit later on. You could conceivably draft him and Penny

and we're almost right back where we were a year ago, where we were drafting both of those guys, if you were so inclined to get Carson with the top 30 pick and then Penny went 76th overall in our non-PPR mock yeah but that's Will Brinson's got a infatuation with Rashad Penny he had it last year too yeah and um and it's an ACL for Penny so who knows how soon but apparently it was bad though you know so that's the the key uh you know you you feel like Seattle I don't know if it's a Schneider thing or if it's a Carroll thing or it's, you know, this is the guy we drafted.

We have to justify the first round pick from a couple of years ago. So we're going to try and make this work. Yeah. Or is it just Carson? Well, I mean, look, Penny was, you know, if he hadn't gotten hurt, who knows what this would have been for him to finish. And if it had played out where he was healthy and Carson suffered the knee, the hip injury, you know, and Penny scoring four touchdowns in three games like Marshawn Lynch did, we're

talking about Penny probably as the better of the seattle running backs coming into 2020 let's do a little rapid fire as we move away from playoff teams and talk about the breaking news going on with a non-playoff team the jaguars have parted ways with john di filippo that's thanks so this guy can't hold a job for a year he left minnesota early now he's leaving jacksonville early doug marone's sticking around. Dee Filippo is not. What do you think this means for the future of the Jacksonville offense? Are they going to try and be a little bit more conservative now?

That's what I'm thinking. And I don't know if he was necessarily a reason why the Jaguars were so bad this year. I just think the injury to Nick Foles got them off to kind of a rocky start. Minshew got them going in a different direction. But the defense wasn't really as good as we thought it would be. Especially the run defense was awful. Yeah, they were terrible. So I don't understand why he's taking the fall for this,

but is this a step toward Jacksonville saying, okay, we want to be a little more conservative? There must be somebody out there that they like. That's probably, you know, you're starting to see all the coaching spots are filled now. So there's either somebody, maybe Scandrello, that they want to make a move like that you know somebody's just recently fired or there's somebody that they like in the college ranks that they want to you know uh bring in or there's somebody on their staff could it be todd monken that could be todd monken that would be fun

that's of course then they're keeping their pedal to the metal on offense then because this this this is something to watch because di filippo was fantastic for four net in terms of his reception you know over 70 catches this was something that we talked about that he likes to throw to his backs. He did. Fournette was awesome. You know, I don't think it's going to really change your view of the receivers because, you know, I think they've kind of proven what they are. You know, DJ Chark's the rising star.

And then you see, you know, Westbrook has still probably the second highest ceiling of that group. And then we'll see what they do in terms of filling that third and fourth spot in their offense. But, you know, this is this is all eyes on Fournette right now. You know, who's going to be the quarterback, you know, whether it's Foles or it's Minshew. But, you know, if they hire somebody that is more conservative, that's not going to throw to their backs as much, then it's going to be bad for Fournette to still be in that top 10 conversation.

He's still going to be a round two pick, I think, at the latest, maybe early round three. But, you know, DiFilippo was good for Fournette. We will attack that offense more when they do have a new offensive coordinator and what it could mean for Fournette. But hopefully they keep Fournette involved in the passing game. That would be sensational for his fantasy value. Rapid fire, more thoughts from the divisional games. These are questions from Adam Azer.

Does Derek Henry have to be a first-round pick in any format at this point? Yes, I think so. What would be the concern? What's the case against him? It's the touchdown regression. That's the only thing. You think the touchdowns will go down and he's not using the pass game, but he is such a beast. He's getting the 15 plus touches guaranteed. And there's no

reason to me that his touchdowns will go below 10 next year. I understand regression. He's going to go closer to the mean, but the guy is going to score every time they're within the three yard line. So I don't see why Henry's not a first round pick. Did Tevin Coleman's game make you want to avoid drafting a 49ers running back in 2020? Yes, absolutely. I mean,

avoid early. What round would you take Tevin Coleman in? 10, nine or 10. I'd rather draft most of it at this point. He went with the first pick in round nine in our non PPR mock. I think that's right around the time to take him at just to add running back depth.

Cause I think he'll be part of that run game in San Francisco. It's funny because before the game, I was with two 49ers fans, and they were talking about the window for the 49ers. If they win this year, what the success can be, and if they don't make it, what's the likelihood of them still being at this level? And one of the things they said was two knowledgeable guys, which I never really talked football with them, but in any event, the first thing they said was, well, Coleman will be a cap casualty.

And I thought about it, I was like, I mean, I guess, you know, when you look at it, they have all these guys under contract, McKinnon, who apparently was a great mentor to the team facing Minnesota, Coleman, Mostert, and Brita. And so it makes sense for them to part with one. And he, prior to this game, was the one that looked like the odd man out. But Mostert really hasn't taken more than 12 to 15 touches. And so that makes you a little bit concerning for a guy who's an undrafted

free agent that they don't have a lot invested in, whereas Coleman is the guy that they clearly invested in this offseason. And so what their offseason plans, I think, will determine it. If Coleman is one of three with most certain maybe – Do we think McKinnon? Because he has $4 million dead money. I don't think they're going to get rid of him. They might.

I don't know how good he is at this point. And certainly reliability and availability are going to be a piece. But in a limited role, he could probably still give something. And as we've seen brita has been really phased out you know he played a little bit because it was a blowout but you know it's been sort of coleman and mostard has just been the two guys there but it's going to be you know something i think that we have to keep an eye on he uh your fans are your fan friends are right about him he's a 49 40 4.9 million dollar cap savings for the 49ers that

they cut him and it's the last year of the deal no dead money so it's kind of a good situation rapid fire email questions and answers from Aaron hello probes Chen and Kyohan keep three for as long as you want Lamar Jackson Chris Carson Josh Jacobs Devonta Adams Keenan Allen Tyler Lockett Travis Kelsey so right

when you thought it was going to be pretty easy with Jackson Jacobs and Adams he adds in Allen Lockettett, Kelsey. Which three are you keeping? Kelsey, Adams, and Jackson. Kelsey, Adams, Jacobs for me. I have to hold on to Kelsey and Jacobs, and I think Devonta Adams is going to get drafted before Lamar Jackson.

I hate letting Lamar Jackson go, but I'd rather have those pieces in place. Whenever you have longevity like this, I would take the safer positions. Devin from a town an hour east of Pittsburgh with consistently good college basketball and football programs. Dear Adam, Adam, Adam, and Adam. Great stuff on Dynasty last week. Are you able to provide more detail

on how to actually do the drafting to get started, i.e. the draft order for veteran players, how that relates to the order for rookie drafts? Do you do two separate drafts with reverse order? If you're starting a dynasty league, and we are going to keep talking about dynasty stuff throughout the offseason, do you do a separate draft now? Do you do it right after the real NFL draft? Do you incorporate rookies in your first ever dynasty league draft?

The two dynasty leagues that I play in both were done differently the first one was just the one that we've first the draft that we did here not the first one but the draft we did here in our office we did a veteran draft and then a rookie draft and the way that we did it if you want to do the same way was we just reversed the order of the veteran draft so if it was ben me dave then the rookie draft went dave me ben so it just was uh back when i told the story when we talked about this last time that it worked out really well for me because i picked 13th of 14 in the veteran draft and i picked second in the rookie draft and it was mcafree's rookie year and the person picking first took four net i took

mcafree and i've been thrilled about it ever since um the other dynasty league that i i take part in we started after the nfl draft and so that one was just everybody in the mix depends on how many drafts you really want to do right yeah i think you know and then we actually did the one in the office we did three drafts because then we did a supplemental draft after with all the players that were because we did a draft this was also the veteran draft was before the nfl draft veteran draft was after that right draft was after before the nfl draft for the nfl draft the rookie draft was after the nfl draft and then the supplemental was during the preseason right because that one again we also do it with idps and so it made a little bit easier to sort of do it that way from albert tough choice for keepers here we have have a $200 budget. Need to keep four. Camara at $16. Kittle

at $12. Singletary at $8. Metcalf at $8. Miles Sanders at $25. And you have to decide by the Super Bowl. I'm not keeping Sanders. No way. Way too much. So you keep four? Yeah. Keep four. Keep the rest. Camara, Kittle, Singletary, Metcalf. Absolutely. Easy.

Last one. Jeff in South Jersey. Hey, Allen, Shirley, Paul, and Denny. You have to keep four. Because if you don't have to keep four, I might throw back Metcalf. That's Easy. Last one. Jeff in South Jersey. Hey, Alan, Shirley, Paul, and Denny. You have to keep four because if you don't have to keep four, I might throw back Metcalf. That's a little pricey for him. I don't mind keeping him for eight. For a $200 budget. Oh, $200.

I'm sorry. Right. If it was a $100 budget, I would have some questions about it too, so I get that. I can keep one running back, one wide receiver, one tight end. DK Metcalf for a ninth. Debo for a 14th. James Conner for for a ninth. Debo for a 14th. James Conner for a 13th.

Ronald Jones for a 13th. Zach Ertz for a fifth. Dallas Goddard for a 14th or 12th or 13th, depending on what other keepers you keep. So keep one wide receiver. DK for a nine. Debo for a 14. I'm keeping Debo.

Debo. Yeah. James Conner for a 13th. Rojo for a 13th. Which one are you going to keep? I mean, Conner. Conner, come on. Conner it is. Zach Ertz for a fifth over Goddard. It Conner for a 13th. Rojo for a 13th. Which one are you going to keep? I mean, Conner. Conner, come on. Conner it is.

Zacherts for a fifth over Goddard. It's pretty obvious. For sure. A lot of coaching changes going on around the NFL. We're going to talk about that throughout the rest of the week. And, of course, toward the end of the week, a lot of DFS discussion to get you ready for the conference championship games. It's an exciting time to be a football fan.

Exciting time to play a little fantasy and DFS. Were you successful in your DFS exploits this weekend? Yep. 10-0 worked out. I got myself a big fat zero. I won absolutely nothing. My DFS picks were terrible. For Ben Schrager, for Jamie Eisenberg, I'm Dave Richard. Thanks for coming out. you