Fantasy Football Today - 01/16 Fantasy Football Podcast: Playoffs Winners & Losers; Offseason Questions

Episode Date: January 16, 2018

Let's start with some winners and losers after the Divisional round of the NFL Playoffs. We're talking Stefon Diggs (7:30), Brandin Cooks (9:08), Leonard Fournette (10:50), JAC WRs (15:35) and more ...... Latest coaching news from around the NFL (24:30) ... We've got an offseason question for each eliminated team: ATL (32:25), NO and PIT (37:15), TEN (42:55), LAR (44:30), KC (47:55), BUF (49:05), CAR (49:45) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:16 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Ian. Fantasy Football Time on Tuesday, January 16th. What's up, everybody? What a game on Sunday. We're going to talk about some divisional winners and losers. Stephon Diggs, a winner. Latavius Murray, a loser. And we're going to go over some of the questions, offseason questions,
Starting point is 00:00:38 for the teams that have been eliminated and a lot of coaching news as well. Jamie and Dave, what's going on? Why is Latavius Murray a loser? Dave gave me a list of coaching news as well. Jamie and Dave, what's going on? Why is Latavius Murray a loser? Dave gave me a list of three losers. Jamie gave me three winners. Dave, why don't you answer that? What's the perspective based on? Or what's the
Starting point is 00:00:56 criteria? I think he's a loser because I don't think he could even be on the Vikings next year, much less be an asset in fantasy football next year. Why would he not be on the Vikings? Because they owe him six an asset in fantasy football next year. Why would he not be on the Vikings? Because they owe him six years. I got it for you. Cut him.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Absolutely cut him. He makes a lot of money. They could save $5 million against the cap if they cut him. They've got Dalvin Cook coming back. They could use that money to sign Jarek McKinnon. He's had under four yards per carry in four of his last five. He had 11 games last year with 15 or more carries. He had 80 or more rush yards in four of his last five. He had 11 games last year with 15 or more carries. He had 80 or more rush yards
Starting point is 00:01:25 in four of those 11. A listener called me out on saying that he sucked. The listener's right. I shouldn't say that he sucks. But he's somebody I don't want on my fantasy team. The listener sucks or Latavius sucks? No, no, no. That I said that Latavius sucks.
Starting point is 00:01:42 So what if Dalvin Cook is not ready by OTAs or by the time they have to make that decision? Then I would assume that they upgraded at running back with somebody else and that they spent the money better than on a player better than Latavius Murray. I see him on the team next year and being the backup to Latavius and Jarek McKinnon going somewhere else where he could start or at least have a bigger role. Being the backup to Dalvin Cook. Yeah, so all right. Well, I guess or at least have a bigger role. Being the backup to Dalvin Cook.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah, so, all right, well, I guess we're off to a nice start. I like disagreement. Disagreement's fun. I think the thing that bothers me about the Vikings is, like, Latavius Murray does not warrant 20 carries a game. Right, he got them out of – He gets them every week. It's four weeks in a row, I think. Well, he had 19 in this game.
Starting point is 00:02:25 And it's like I understand what they're doing, ball control, clock control, winning with defense. Maybe they don't truly trust Case Keenum. But you got a guy who doesn't – who almost never gets to four yards per carry. And part of that is goal line work. I get that. But still, it's like he doesn't give you any big plays really. And he gets 19, 20 carries a game.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Come on, man. Enough with that. And as for Jerick McKinnon being a starter somewhere else, this Vikings coaching staff obviously doesn't believe it because they've had pretty much all year to give him a lot of work. That's why he's going to go somewhere else. They haven't done it. Yeah, we've said that before about other running backs. Well, it depends on the money. And it hasn't worked out.
Starting point is 00:03:00 But who is more expensive? I would assume Latavius is more expensive than Jerick McKinnon. He has been, but they could use the Latavius money to pay McKinnon if they wanted to keep McKinnon, but I don't know if they believe that McKinnon can be an every-down backup to Dalvin Cook. Well, I think it's great that— The salary cap is also going to go up next year,
Starting point is 00:03:19 so that's my background to both guys' decision-making. These guys are not threats. It's going to come down to getting just a better running back than a guy who's averaging whatever Latavius is averaging. Yeah, but they're not threats to Dalvin. But he does not suck. I shouldn't have said that. Yeah, I would imagine it's going to be Cook and Murray
Starting point is 00:03:35 and then probably some late-round rookie or undrafted rookie free agent. All right, well, we have plenty of time for that. Email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Planning to get to some emails today. So how about that play? How about that catch? Or as I put in the notes, whoa, Nelly, Stefan Diggs. Oh, that's the catch you were referring to?
Starting point is 00:03:57 That's the one. I think it's more probably the tackle. Well, yeah. The play, the play, okay? The whole thing. What was he doing? Dumb defense. Williams. I don't think the defense was dumb. The defense was horrendous.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Why? Because they left nobody back behind anybody to help out. He's the guy. He was the guy. There's no rotation running up. What? Look at anything from an overhead view of that play. They were stupid.
Starting point is 00:04:23 There was no rotation, you said? There was no rotation to come help me. I don't think they wanted rotation. I think the safeties were supposed to play back, and Williams saw Diggs coming at him. It was a horrible, horrible play design. When the time comes to make the play, it's like his aim was bad. He literally looks like he's diving at a player who's standing next to Stabandu. He totally whiffed.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Look, if he makes that tackle, the game's over. And that was an easy tackle to make. And he just dove somewhere else. He's trying to keep him inbounds. That's part of it. I guess, yeah. But it shouldn't have been that. But it was fun.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I mean, as a football fan, it was an incredible finish. The whole sequence, the whole fourth quarter, really. It was just the punt block. The whole thing was great. Saints should have won that game, though. Saints probably should have won that game. I think James is a little upset because he thought Saints were going to win. No, I mean, look, it's a great, great, absolutely great play that they went on.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And, you know, it's one for the, you know, instant classics. But the Saints won that game. I was asked today if I could name three other plays that were as good as that play. Ever? Okay, can you? Well, Steve Smith's walk-off in double overtime in the playoffs against the Rams was pretty damn good, and no one's even talking about that. Maybe it was because the game was tied when it happened.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I don't even remember that. It's a 69-yard play. the game was tied when it happened. I don't even remember that. I don't even remember that. It's a 69-yard play. DeLome finds him for half that yardage in the air. And then he just breaks free and scores. First play of double overtime. The Jacoby Jones play is the one that comes to mind. The Jacoby Jones play is a great one.
Starting point is 00:05:57 That wasn't like a game-ender, but it was close enough to it. Oh, there was another one. I can't remember what it was. I mean, the walk-off in the Super Bowl, but it wasn't necessarily just a great play. It was just the comeback last year. Which one? Oh, the cut last year? Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Right. Yeah, there was no real play. That was kind of the beef with that game is there was no great play. Maybe the pick six, but it was this exciting game that kind of stunk last year at the Super Bowl. I don't know. There weren't a lot of memorable moments. You mean the comeback from that kind of stunk last year at the Super Bowl. I don't know. There weren't a lot of memorable moments. You mean the comeback from 28-3 stunk? Kind of.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It wasn't a great game. It really wasn't. It wasn't a signature play. I don't know. That second half was pretty incredible. It wasn't, though? That defines it. Yes, it was.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Are you kidding? Of course. It was awesome. How about Malcolm Butler's interception at the Super Bowl 49? That was a hell of a one. That was great. I mean, can I say David Tyree? He really was amazing.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yeah, sure. Okay, thank you. Nick would have said it like five minutes ago. Greg Camarillo's catch against the Ravens. How about Antonio Freeman's catch against the Vikings on Monday Night Football? Yeah, ball rolled around his legs. But that was really incredible. I mean, running into the end, that was really awesome. All right, so let's get to some winners and losers. The reaction of the players was really incredible. I mean, running into the end, that was really awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:05 All right, so let's get to some winners and losers. The reaction of the players was just amazing. Everything. Did you see Sean Payton doing the skull clap, the skull clap, whatever? Was he doing that? Oh, yeah, 100%. I've seen frame-by-frame pictures of him doing the clap and mocking the fans after they kicked the field goal to go up with 25 seconds left.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Can't say I blame you, Sean Payton. Can't say I blame you. All right, so winners and losers. Stefan Diggs. So I got the winners from Jamie. He's got a column up with both winners and losers. You can read that on CBSSports.com. And I've got the losers from Dave.
Starting point is 00:07:39 So Diggs is a winner. Now, before that play, he and Thielen basically had the same numbers. Before that play, he had five catches for 76 yards, and Thielen had six catches for 74 yards. Both of them had nine targets. Of course, Diggs ends up with six catches, 137 yards, and a touchdown with that huge play at the end of the game. And now four straight games with a touchdown for Diggs.
Starting point is 00:08:02 So what did you mean by calling Diggs a winner in this context? He's just closing the season strong. So he's taking over the role again as the number one receiver for the Vikings. Do you think that's clear to you? Did it change his fantasy draft stock? No, it's just solidifying it. Where was it before, or where is it now? I mean, look, he's got a chance to climb, I think,
Starting point is 00:08:23 depending on who the quarterback is next year, to be a potential top number one guy. A number one guy, huh? Well, I mean, he finished as a strong number two. Yeah, he did. Despite missing two games. And being horribly inconsistent. Well, he was consistent at the end of the season.
Starting point is 00:08:39 He did. Back-to-back games with 12 fantasy points. Yeah, but it's 60 yards and a touchdown. Is it ever really clear who the number one receiver is with them? It hasn't been, but it doesn't mean that it can't be. And you would bet on Diggs? I think Diggs is more explosive than Thielen. Yeah, because they put him outside and they put Thielen in the slot this year.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Vikings coaching staff would agree with that 110%. And you watch him play, and obviously he's that way. So one of the losers that Dave gave is Brandon Cooks. And he had a pretty quiet game. He's had a lot of quiet games. So who do you think you'd take first next year? Diggs, let's say they're both in the same situation. Diggs or Cooks?
Starting point is 00:09:22 Who's the quarterback in Minnesota? Keenum. Then I would take Cooks? Who's the quarterback in Minnesota? Keenum. Then I would take Cooks. I will too. Really? And Cooks is just, he's had the same problem as Stephon Diggs this year. Very inconsistent. Actually, you know what?
Starting point is 00:09:37 I may take Diggs with the expectation of Julian Edelman being back and everybody still being there. A lot of mouths to feed in that Patriots offense if everybody's healthy. It was my argument against Cooks to start the season, to start the preseason. Yeah, he was just as inconsistent as Diggs. He still finished with more fantasy points than Diggs, but it's not by a whole lot. And he played 16 games and Diggs played 14. It's true.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Right. Yeah, and Cooks, he's three straight years as a top 12 wide receiver in standard scoring leagues. You've got to start him every week. You can't ever think about I better get him out of my lineup because he's been bad for
Starting point is 00:10:18 two or three games in a row. You have to look at him and say what kind of upside does he have? Does he have top five upside? And I wonder, maybe he does. He never gets top five targets, though. He had 117 last year. He had 114 this season.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I don't know that that's going to change. Like what you said, Jamie, if Edelman comes back, and even if he doesn't, is Cooks going to get 140 targets or something like that? No. And I think the one thing that, look, it's going to start to happen eventually is that Brady's going to start to decline. Yeah. Well, you didn't read that article?
Starting point is 00:10:48 It's already happening. All right, back to the winners. So this is an interesting one. Leonard Fournette, 25 carries, 109 yards, and three touchdowns at Pittsburgh. And he had something. I tried to do the math, and I think I did it right, but I might have done it wrong. But I think at halftime he had 12 carries for 83 yards. So he hurt his ankle late in the first half.
Starting point is 00:11:12 He came back. He played the second half. It wasn't nearly as effective. But that was almost a microcosm of Leonard Fournette's season. Pre-injury, post-injury, and it's also the appeal of Fournette and what might make you a little nervous about Fournette. The guy is really injury prone. He's very physical, and that could take a toll.
Starting point is 00:11:32 But you had him as a winner, Jamie, and so give me your thoughts there. Well, I think we had this conversation about our projected first rounds for next year. And I don't know. I don't remember Heath. I know Dave had him in his first round. I had him in my first round. And I think when you see games like this, that just kind of solidifies how good he can be
Starting point is 00:11:52 and what the ceiling is for him. Now, granted, his two best games have come against Pittsburgh. You can make the argument one was with a healthy Ryan Shazier and one was without. But you can make the argument maybe he just gets up for that matchup. I just think that you see what he is as an unfinished product, and he won't be a finished product next season, but the offensive line will be better. I can't imagine that they're going to go through the offseason without addressing that position, and we'll see what they do at the quarterback spot.
Starting point is 00:12:19 But he's got just, you know, so much upside. There is downside, but I think you look at what his ceiling could be, and you're able to see it in games like this when he has – his offensive line played really well against Pittsburgh, and he took advantage of that with some playmaking ability that you don't see a lot from guys his size. That's why I think we get sort of fascinated by Derrick Henry, too. It's the thing that these guys can do that are, you know, freaks of nature because of how physically gifted they are.
Starting point is 00:12:51 And when they show it to you, it's nice. And plus, you know, he's been involved in the passing game down the stretch, too. You know, only two catches. And T.J. Eldon kind of stole that role. But if he can get better in that regard and, you know, go from a 32-catch guy, I think is what he was, to a 45-to-50-catch guy, that will certainly help his value also. Do you have to draft his handcuff if you draft him in the first round? Is he one of those guys where you're just going to feel a lot better about things? I think if there's a clear-cut guy because we really have that this year.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Sometimes it was Chris Ivory. Sometimes it was TJ Eldon. But it would make me feel better if there were one because he does seem like one of the most likely players that would go in the first round to get injured. To me, you guys agree, disagree? I think, you know, if their season ends this week, which I'm sure a lot of people are counting on it happening, then you don't have to worry about any more additional wear and tear. And look, he had, like you said, he left the game with an ankle injury. He got in a minor car accident. We're recording this on Tuesday. He got in a minor car accident.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Everything is expected to be fine. If he comes into OTA's training camp, no issues. I think you should feel comfortable drafting this first round. He has 314 carries. Did you say that? Nope. 314 carries through 15 games. That includes the postseason. Attack on another 41 catches.
Starting point is 00:14:12 So he will scare off some people. Yeah, but he's so good. And then I asked Nick last week, who would you rather have in standard scoring next year? It's easy in PPR, but in standard scoring, year it's easy in ppr but in standard scoring fournette or camara and i'll ask you guys i think you guys answered camara last week but i think i answered four that you did okay i'm sorry if i answered camara i probably should have said no i don't remember dave i you could easily have well i think you know i'm gonna pull
Starting point is 00:14:39 the story you have four net ranked really hot yeah yeah you like for now and but but four net actually averaged more fantasy points per game than Kamara this year in standard scoring. He really wasn't that far behind in PPR either. And he averaged 1.5 more points per game than Kamara in standard. And that's a big deal. That's actually a lot of points. So I was kind of surprised by that. He was the number four running back in weekly scoring, Leonard Fournette, in both standard and PPR.
Starting point is 00:15:06 So, yeah, I mean, it is an interesting debate. There's no doubt in my mind I would take Fournette if you could tell me they were going to play the same amount of games. But a guy with injury history in college, injury history in the NFL, got hurt last week, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:21 it scares me a little bit. I'm trying to be less worried about injuries, but that is the guy I'm circling as an injury risk. No, it's certainly a fair point because there's a track record. Yeah. All right. Another loser. Same team, Jacksonville wide receivers. Dave, this is a loser from you. Now, last week against the Chiefs, D.D. Westbrook was the only Jacksonville wide receiver with more than one target. And the only wide receiver with a catch. This past week on Sunday against the Steelers, Marquise Lee was the only Jacksonville wide receiver with more than three targets. None of them had good goals.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Only one with more than one catch, too. That's true. So, Jacksonville wide receivers with more than three targets. None of them had good goals. Only one with more than one catch, too. That's true. So Jacksonville wide receivers, they're all losers, Dave. I don't know how you can feel good about drafting them, assuming they're all still on Jacksonville next year. Allen Robinson's a free agent. Marquise Lee's a free agent. Allen Hearns could be a cap casualty.
Starting point is 00:16:21 So there are a lot of changes that could go down with this receiving corps. And obviously it depends on Bortles. If Bortles is still the quarterback there next year, I think it hurts him. If Bortles is gone and it's Alex Smith or Eli Manning or a rookie quarterback, Jacksonville makes a big trade to move up, that's a different story. But for now, I don't feel good about having those guys on my fantasy team. No. I mean, Bortles threw 21 touchdowns this season.
Starting point is 00:16:50 That's really low. There is no way that they're bringing back all three of Allen Robinson, Marquise Lee, and Allen Hurts. There's no chance. Okay, but let's say they bring back two of them. Are you going to feel good about anybody? I'll feel good about Robinson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Because I've seen something from before. I'll feel good about Lee because I've seen something from before. But when you say you feel good about them, where are you drafting them? Oh, they're all late except for maybe Robinson just because of his pedigree. I think you look at if Robinson walks and it's Lee, Westbrook, I'm almost certain they're going to cut Alan Hearns. His contract is ridiculous. It was ridiculous
Starting point is 00:17:32 from the get-go. And they have young guys that can easily do what he does, if not do it better. So my guess would be it could conceivably be both Robinson and Lee are gone, and Hearns. And they go Westbrook, Cole, and bring somebody else in.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Okay. Well, stay tuned. I would like a new quarterback there. That would help. But a young receiver that's a winner right now is Corey Davis. Five catches, 63 yards, and two touchdowns on eight targets at New England. Oh, boy. So, you know, I obviously did not have faith in Marcus
Starting point is 00:18:09 Mariota coming through just from a DFS standpoint. And I also didn't have faith in James White. That was when I thought that Rex Burkhead was going to play. So, Dave, I hope you stuck with James White in your DFS lineups. Of course I did not. Oops. Mariota gave you good fantasy production. He was terrible in that game not. Oops. Mario gave you
Starting point is 00:18:26 good fantasy production. He was terrible in that game. Yeah, and he gave you 25 fantasy points. Nine of them came on the final drive. And Corey Davis benefited from that, but Davis had both of the touchdown catches. And he finally did something. I mean, this guy had 375 yards and no touchdowns in 11 games
Starting point is 00:18:42 in the regular season. This was by far his best game. It was the first time he scored. So he really hasn't done anything to inspire us other than be drafted in the top 10 in the NFL draft. But what do you think, Jamie? You have him as a winner. Well, I mean, look, like you said, he finally did something. So he's going to improve his stock, I think, on a couple different levels. First off, he showed you that he can make some plays. Secondly, I think the coaching change is only going to help players like him, players like Mariota, players like Derrick Henry, because there will hopefully be some imagination in that offense and some diversity. So I would anticipate him being healthy is going to be a big part of it he started the
Starting point is 00:19:26 year with an injury situation he dealt with the hamstring problem during the season so who knows exactly when he finally felt comfortable for a team that you know didn't maybe have a healthy quarterback because mariotta you know there are reports of him playing with an injured shoulder after coming back from the hamstring problem that he missed no game so i i just think that he's probably going to get overdrafted a little bit based on this type of game. And like you said, the fact that he was drafted in the top ten in the NFL draft. But I think if he's taken in the right spot,
Starting point is 00:19:55 if his ADP settles in a good situation, he could be a number three receiver on draft day that could end up being a starter for you because he is their best guy. I mean, you know, Rashard Matthews has has proven to be good but he's also an inconsistent player delaney walker's getting older eric decker's getting older those guys aren't going to be the type of playmakers that cory davis could be so the the potential you got a glimpse of it finally for the first time this season if he didn't have that game he would have been davante parker-esque you know somebody that you're just okay drafted potential, but we just don't know what to expect from him,
Starting point is 00:20:26 and we're going to draft him based on hope, and who knows if he ever delivers. I wonder how much stock people put into the postseason. I wonder if they forget about it when draft season comes around, and they're just looking at regular season numbers. Well, look, if he did that in Week 17 compared to the playoff game, it's a different story. You remember it more this way as opposed to, oh, he had a good game to close out the season. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:50 That's true. Who would you guys, if you were drafting right now, would you rather draft Corey Davis or Juju Smith-Schuster? That's an interesting question. I'd like to know who the coach is going to be in Pittsburgh before I – or not Pittsburgh. Well, maybe in Pittsburgh. They're talking about letting Todd Haley go. I was talking about Tennessee and who the coach is going to be for the Titans and what that offense will look like. But I think if Corey Davis goes out and has a good camp and there's a lot of buzz about him, you're probably going to see him drafted ahead of Juju. See, I'd be surprised if that's the case, just because you've seen Juju make plays
Starting point is 00:21:27 in some pretty big ones during the season. The thing that makes me a little bit nervous about Juju is what we just saw this past weekend, that Roethlisberger throws for over 400 yards. He throws five touchdowns. One of them went to Juju. But targets, he was tied for third or fourth on the team. I think it was fourth maybe. And they're bringing everybody back.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Martavis will be back. He's got a cheap one-year situation left on his contract. Obviously, Le'Veon Bell, I don't expect him to go. No retirement. I don't expect him to retire. And so you saw his big stretch for juju came when antonio brown was hurt it was week 15 against the patriots he had the you know big catch to put him over 100 yards in the fourth quarter to get them down to the controversial play
Starting point is 00:22:15 and then he had the the two touchdowns the subsequent games the last one being without roethlisberger in week 17 against cleveland so um i i think people will be a little bit more enamored with juju because because of what you've seen. But Corey Davis might end up being the better player. He didn't have a single game with double-digit fantasy points with Antonio Brown also getting double-digits in fantasy points. It was always one or the other. Except for Week 2, neither of them did it. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Yeah, and for Juju it was three catches for five yards and a touchdown on five targets. Three players. It was the last play of the game, which was meaningless. Who was he covered by for most of the game? I wasn't watching close enough. I think Ramsey was on Antonio Brown most of the game. Well, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Anyway, let's move on and talk about our last loser We already actually talked about Latavius Murray Yeah, I don't think there's anything else to say here Right, we're good? Moving on You don't want to talk about Delaney Walker? Nah, I'm good with it We've got plenty of time left on the show We can talk about the Titans
Starting point is 00:23:20 They have, I wouldn't say fired Mike Malarkey But they will not be bringing Mike Malarkey back. The two have parted ways. Before we get to all of that, all the news and notes, it is a new year. It is a new chance to tell you about SeatGeek. We love SeatGeek. They've really been a great sponsor, so I want to thank SeatGeek for continuing to support our show and for continuing to give you $20 off tickets to a game, a concert, comedy, theater, wherever you want to go.
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Starting point is 00:24:41 Did you see a picture of him without his beard? That's not really him, is it? Yeah. I thought that was a joke. He looks like a kid. That was really him? What do you think I sent you? I thought you sent me like somebody else on the Patriots staff that doesn't have a beard.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Oh, yeah. Look at this guy. Yeah. Google Matt Patricia. Yeah. Okay. I'll do it right now. It was pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I hope he shaves it. And Pat Shermer might be the frontrunner for the Giants job. And the Bills fired their offensive coordinator, Rick Dennison, and brought in Brian Dable, who has a truly dreadful history as an offensive coordinator. Oh, God, it's so bad. In four seasons. But two with Cleveland, one with Miami, and one with Kansas City. He has not worked with great talent, but, boy, he's got a bad track record.
Starting point is 00:25:27 So that's great. What do you think about Patricia to Detroit and probably Shermer to the Giants? Oh, and probably McDaniels to the Colts. Probably McDaniels to the Colts. Where do you want to start? McDaniels. I don't think he's going to Indianapolis without assurances that Andrew Luck is going to be good to go Actually let me jump in
Starting point is 00:25:47 Let's just talk about Patricia Since the others could change What's the point of wasting our breath when They all could change but That one seems to be the most locked in Well The Lions GM came from New England And obviously knew Patricia
Starting point is 00:26:04 From his days there. And I'm sure Patricia got a great recommendation from Bill Belichick. And it seems like they're going to try and bring the Patriot way to East Michigan. Yes, wonderful. It really matters who his offensive coordinator is, right? Oh, I think it's going to be Jim Bob Cooter. That would be great. They've got to find a running back.
Starting point is 00:26:27 That might be all they need on offense. That might be it. They get a running back in there, and all of a sudden that team is a monster. Potentially. Yeah, it's a good job. And, yeah, we can talk about the Colts and the Giants when they fill their position. How about the Cardinals' new coach, Jamie? Yeah, the Cardinals have a great new coach, according to Adam Azer.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Why don't you tell people who you thought the coach of the Cardinals was? I couldn't believe it, Dave. I could not believe it. I was like, what? They hired Kevin Sumlin to be their new head coach? All weekend long, I saw the story that the, you know, former Aggies head coach Kevin Sumlin hired by Arizona to be their head coach. Of course, that would be the Arizona Wildcats, not the Arizona Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:27:14 I thought it was a very curious decision, but they didn't make it. So, less curious. It sounds like it's going to be Steve Wilks. Oh, yeah? Okay. That's an offense that is going to be Steve Wilks. Oh, yeah? Okay. That's an offense that is going to be totally up for grabs now. New quarterback, might have new outside receivers. Offensive line needs a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:27:36 That's one that I'm really intrigued by. I want to see what happens in Arizona. I think they're going to be terrible. I think they're entering terrible times. Yeah, it's a little nerve-wracking for David Johnson. It is. Yeah, it really is. And then some other news.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Rex Burkhead expected to play this week. Yes, I said that last week, but this time I mean it. New England right tackle Adrian Waddell left with a knee injury. He does have a chance to play this week. Minnesota safety Andrew Sandejo is doing better after leaving Sunday's game with a concussion. I forgot about this coaching item. Seattle expected to hire Brian Schottenheimer to be their offensive coordinator. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And they hired Ken Norton to be their defense coordinator. Yeah. It's old is new again. Oh, yeah. It's 2008 all over again. It's another team. The Arrow. That's interesting because they do have one of the best quarterbacks in the league.
Starting point is 00:28:29 But it just seems like they're getting a little bit worse every year, you know? Like they missed the playoffs this year. No, the beginning and the end started last year, this past season. But they still have a lot of really good players. Beginning of the end of what? Of the Seattle dominant. Yeah, their defense could be hurting a little. They're going to have to nail another draft.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Probably, yeah. That's what I think it will come down to. Got to fix the offense line. That's part of nailing the draft. It just makes you appreciate how amazing the Patriots are for doing that. It also makes you appreciate how amazing Russell Wilson is. Yeah, but, I mean, honestly, if he were Tom Brady, they would have made the playoffs. They would have won the division.
Starting point is 00:29:07 They'd be in the Super Bowl. Yes? Agree? No. If the Seahawks had Tom Brady, they'd be in the Super Bowl? They'd win the NFC. No. And they'd lose to the Tom Brady-led Patriots in the AFC.
Starting point is 00:29:24 You don't think so? No. Okay. So who is going to win the NFC? Give me quick picks. We'll do another show later this week, but quick picks. I'm sticking with the Vikings. Oh, it's Minnesota now, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And the Patriots. And the Jags? Obviously the Jags. I'll tell you what, man. It's going to be one terrible Super Bowl if it's Jacksonville, Philly. If it's New England, Philadelphia, that would be even worse. New England would kill. That would be worse?
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yes. I don't think it would be worse. Jacksonville-Philly might be less fun to watch maybe, but it will be a closer game. New England will kill Philadelphia. I think it sets – first off, the tie-in between Keenum and Foles is hysterical, if you connect the dots and how it all came together between these two guys. But it's a fun story. And it's like, on one hand, you've got to be excited for the Vikings and Eagles fans, more so the Vikings, because clearly, you know, Case Keenum,
Starting point is 00:30:21 I don't know how much of a drop-off he is from Sam Bradford. But for the Eagles, it's like their team is great. And if they had Wentz, I think it would be a walk through the NFC at this point or would have been a walk through the NFC. But to get to this point and they still may win. I mean they could beat Minnesota. They could. Yeah, they could. You know what I'm finding pretty crazy is that I feel like – no, I don't feel – this is true.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I mean good offenses are just better than good defenses. You've got like the Saints offense and the Vikings defense. And when the chips are on the table, whatever, when it really matters, the Saints offense produced. And look at the Steelers-Jaguars games. A great offense is going to beat a great defense. You have to have a truly elite defense now to contain a great offense. So I would really like to see the Patriots and the Vikings. I'd love to see that matchup.
Starting point is 00:31:15 But the Patriots are going to put up 40 points on the Jaguars. I don't think they're going to put up 40, but 30. Yeah, definitely in the third. 28, 31, somewhere in that range. Definitely 28. I'm just going to make a less stupid statement. It's going to be at least 15 catches for the running backs. It's going to be probably six or seven catches for Gronk,
Starting point is 00:31:32 and it's going to be seven or eight catches for Amendola. And I wonder how good. He said 11. Yeah, but that's what he does. I mean, sometimes he has huge games, and then he goes five weeks or something. Anytime you know Brady's getting the ball out of his hands quick, those type of players are going to be heavily, heavily involved. I wonder how good the Jaguars' defense is.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Have they had one great performance against a great offense this year? Yes, against the Steelers the first time around. That's true, but the Steelers weren't doing well against anyone at that point. That was Ben Roethlisberger talking about how he's done. Yeah, but, I mean, you can't take that away from them. No, no. They are a great defense. They're probably the best defense in the league,
Starting point is 00:32:10 but that's the thing. Offenses are just so much better than defenses now. So it seems. Now it's going to be Jacksonville, Minnesota, and there's a rule. You never know. All right, here we go. Questions for the eliminated teams. Can Matt Ryan be great again?
Starting point is 00:32:26 Let's start with Atlanta. This is not a political pun or anything, but can Matt Ryan be great again? He was the number 16 quarterback in fantasy this year after being number two last year. What do you think? Explain to me how Julio Jones goes through a whole season with, was it three touchdowns? Three touchdowns. How the hell does that happen? It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Like what type of force field did somebody put around Julio so that he couldn't score? I mean, it's almost like when they needed to have the biggest play of their season, they threw it to Julio Jones in the end zone and he couldn't make the play. Maybe you want to practice that throughout the course of the year a little bit more. Well, he doesn't throw the ball that much. That's one reason why the touchdowns were down. I mean, you can look at Julio's touchdowns. You can also look at Matt Ryan's touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:33:13 He had 20 this year. He had 38 last year. He had 21 touchdowns in 2015. But, you know, he's just not throwing the ball much. He did have the 10th most pass attempts, but still not that many. And that's part of the problem for Matt Ryan, who finishes the season with, I think, eight straight games with zero or one passing touchdown, including the playoffs. Adam, he had six-year lows in pass attempts, pass completions, passing yards, touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:33:46 And I'm looking at yards per attempt. No, that was good. Yards per attempt was good. No, that one wasn't so bad. But he was coming off of an MVP year, as everybody knows. In 2016, he averaged 9.3 yards per attempt. We told you that wasn't going to happen again. He had 38 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:34:03 We told you that wasn't going to happen again. He had 38 touchdowns. We told you that wasn't going to happen again. But I didn't think it would fall so far to 4,095 yards, barely topping 4,000 yards with only 20 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. That's a decent amount. It's not necessarily a ton for him. This guy who's had a 16-interception season over the course of his career. But I don't know what his passer rating was on deep attempts i don't know how many deep attempts he had but it seems to me that ryan a got conservative the falcons in general got conservative and he missed a lot
Starting point is 00:34:40 of throws over the course of the season i just wonder if what we saw two years ago to last year can happen again. So his first year with Kyle Shanahan was terrible. And then his second year he was the MVP. Right. And so I just wonder if he's the type of guy that takes two years to adapt to a system and to fully master it. And so I know there wasn't a lot of changes from what Sarkeesian said and what they tried to do, but clearly there were changes.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And so you still have one of the most dominant receivers in football. I don't think he's going to lose too much in terms of Julio Jones declining. And hopefully they can find a third option, because Mohamed Sanu is a very capable number two. Find a third option. Because he had a third option last year. It was Taylor Gabriel, and Gabriel wasn't a big part of the offense this year. And they had Freeman last year.
Starting point is 00:35:31 His catches declined by I think it was like 15 or 20, something like that. Well, let me give you the numbers on that. That was what I found the most interesting. Julio Jones and Mohamed Sanu basically combined for the same amount of yards in 2016 versus 2017. But Freeman and Coleman had 267 fewer receiving yards. And I had been saying that all year. I really felt that was what was missing from the offense. They just weren't getting the running backs involved.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Because while Gabriel's production did go down, Hooper's went up. It was kind of similar to what Gabriel gave you last year. But it was the running backs. 267 fewer yards, and those guys are really good. Get those playmakers involved. You saw it a little bit more later in the season. It does give me some hope. Yeah, Freeman, three of his last four games, at least five catches.
Starting point is 00:36:18 But I guess if I could sum up my Matt Ryan feelings, it would be this. If he's only going to throw the ball like 370 times, he has no rushing yards, no would be this. If he's only going to throw the ball like 370 times, he has no rushing yards, no rushing totals. The only quarterbacks that can be great in fantasy with that are usually rushing quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:36:33 With Matt Ryan's 2016 season looking like a huge fluke. The thing I think you're going to end up with him is he'll be drafted late as a number two quarterback because I don't think anybody's going to have him ranked as a top 12 guy. If he is, it's 13, 14. He'll be drafted late as a number two quarterback because i don't think anybody's gonna have him ranked as a top 12 guy and so if he if he is it's you know 13 14 he'll be in that range um you'll sit on him for a couple weeks during the start of the season if you are inclined to take two quarterbacks and if he does have that bounce back moment you know
Starting point is 00:36:59 let's say you hold him for four weeks and then three of those four weeks, he's over 20 fantasy points. Okay, here we go. Maybe he's back. Rivers or Ryan next year? Rivers. Rivers, okay. All right, question now for the Saints and the Steelers. Same question for each team. Can the Saints and or Steelers have a consistent number two wide receiver emerge next year? The Saints or the Steelers?
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah. Well, technically, both of them did this year, but it was at running back. Well, that's so – it has to be a wide receiver. And Juju was good. The Steelers for sure. I think they could. Well, but based on what you wrote, Jamie, and your winners and losers column, you're a little skeptical about the word consistent from Juju.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I'm certainly skeptical of it, but I mean to use the word could, sure. Okay. So I mean the Steelers definitely could, but you'd love to see Martavis not be there or something. The Saints is another question. Michael Thomas had 149 targets. That is probably the most targets for a wide receiver in Saints history, but definitely the most in the Drew Brees era. And that was something that kind of helped get multiple wide receivers relevant
Starting point is 00:38:20 because they spread the ball around more. But it was Kamara and Thomas who really dominated the targets this year. What's your take on the Saints and whether we could – because obviously we liked Willie Sneed. Last year there were two guys who were really, really good. Who liked Willie Sneed? What a joke there. But yeah, what do you think, guys? Can we get two good wide receivers out of this team?
Starting point is 00:38:40 I think you might be able to get it in New Orleans because that's a team I could see drafting a wide receiver that they think can help stretch the field and make things a little harder on defenses, help things out for Michael Thomas. I don't know. I think
Starting point is 00:38:59 that receiver could be that guy. I don't know if they were happy with Guinness, that guy. He's back at $2.5 million next year. He's not going anywhere. Okay. Well, then if they don't draft a receiver. They're not going to bring back Willie Sneed at this point. There's already talk about them getting rid of Kobe Fiener.
Starting point is 00:39:14 So I forget which one he made. It was you, Dave, said Jimmy Graham was a possibility. I don't know. It would be interesting to think about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying it's realistic, but he's a tight end on the market that has a relationship with his team. So if the numbers work out, he can go there. They still have to pay Drew Brees.
Starting point is 00:39:30 That's going to be a big thing about what their salary cap situation is. And we'll see what they do to probably try and add to their defense in the draft, probably in the defensive line and linebacker. Hopefully not safety. I hope Marcus Williams can recover from this. probably in the defensive line and linebacker. Hopefully not safety. I hope Marcus Williams can recover from this. I think you just look at what they need. I don't know if they're going to have the ability to find somebody to have the tandem like they had a year ago with Cooks and Thomas, but it's still one of those situations where you're right.
Starting point is 00:40:05 They could add somebody to that, but I think Ted Ginn is kind of who he is. I'm thinking the answer is no. Right, and if they do add a wide receiver and they get a number two wide receiver who's good, can that person coexist with Kamara? Kamara not take a step back. Would he have to take a step back in order for that to happen? Yeah, Kamara would take a big step back for that to happen. And that's just a trend that I don't see changing.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah, I don't think that he would take a step back because there's always been a pass-catching running back in this offense that's been— One that gets 80 receptions? No, but he's the best of the guys that they've had. I mean, you know, Reggie Bush was good, but I think Kamara looks the part of being a little bit, just because he's bigger and probably a little bit more explosive. Darren Sproles was good, but he's a small player.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I mean, they could do so many different things with Kamara. They could do everything with Kamara. Maybe he's not 80 catches, but I don't see him going below 70. Right. But if you give that number two receiver another 10 catches, and maybe you take 10 catches away from Michael Thomas, that would make it consistent number two. How many did Ginn have?
Starting point is 00:41:10 I can look it up, but it wasn't that many. Ginn had 53. I'm going to guess 45. 53 catches. Okay. 787 yards and four touchdowns. He was the number 36 wide receiver in standard. So he was technically a number three receiver.
Starting point is 00:41:24 And he had 70 targets. Let's say that guy goes to 90 targets. The number two receiver in New Orleans. Right, but they also used other guys. It's not like Brandon Coleman didn't have some moments. It's not like they didn't use multiple tight ends because Colby Fleener was bad.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I'll give you one other point. Is Drew Brees the same guy he was a year or two ago? Yes, without question. We saw it in the playoffs. I think so. I do. I really do. I mean, it's just he didn't throw the ball nearly as much.
Starting point is 00:41:51 That was the big difference. But his completion percentage, his yards per attempt, I think he set career highs in both of them. He set the NFL record for completion percentage. Well, there was definitely a career high then. He was great this year, but they kept running the ball into the end zone. He had a very unlucky year with touchdowns. That's going to go up.
Starting point is 00:42:08 He's going to be awesome next year, but they do have to throw the ball a little bit more for that to happen. I think he was around 34-ish pass attempts per year. He's usually over 40. He had his fewest pass attempts since 2005. Look what he did in the playoffs, though. When they needed him And when they faced great run defense I was going to say two great run defense
Starting point is 00:42:29 I think another interesting thing with the Saints is you saw in their two playoff games The usage of the running backs It was Camara more so than They like Camara more Yeah oh clearly But they showed it You know whether they try I think that Atlanta game where he got hurt was going to be the start of that.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Yeah, right? Yeah, he came out firing away to him. Three catches on the first drive, right? And two carries. Yeah. So, all right. Question for the Titans. Is there still a chance for a Marcus Mariota breakout?
Starting point is 00:42:59 A hundred percent. Dave Richard? I'm worried about his health. Yeah, he's always hurt. Got hurt in the Patriots game. Played through it. All right, care to expand, Jamie? 100% chance for a breakout?
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah, I mean, it's not like he's hit a ceiling by any stretch. I mean, he's still a guy that's going to run the ball. He's still a guy that has weapons that are developing. And the biggest thing is going to be who they hire as a coach and a coordinator. So if they bring in the right people to improve Mariota, to improve the situation, that offensive line is still very good, if not great. So the pieces are starting to get there. And there are going to have to be some things that happen.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Again, coaching is going to be important, and the development of Corey Davis and somebody else. I think if they can get probably one more good year out of Delaney Walker, I don't know if he'll be, you know, a top five tight end like he finished in fantasy this year, but just good enough to make Mariota better. John Smith, hopefully being a part of that. You know, I know he's suffered a torn MCL, but that's not going to be something that keeps him out very long. They need to upgrade probably the Decker spot because I think Matthews could still be a good number
Starting point is 00:44:05 two receiver, if not a number three. And probably finding a complementary pass catcher to Derek Henry because DeMarco Murray needs to get out of the way for Henry to get to the point where he needs to get to. But again, finding an Alvin Kamara is not going to be easy, but finding that
Starting point is 00:44:21 type of guy or a lesser version of that type of guy. Okay. Next question. Let's go to a team that lost two weeks ago, the Rams. What do we expect from the Rams wide receivers next season? Who's there? I bet it's the same group.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, I'll put all three back. For sure, Kup is going to be there. Woods' contract, it looks like there was something put in there where if he didn't have a good year this year, they could easily cut him. But there's no chance they're going to do it now. He's going to cost them $8 million against the cap. He's totally worth it. And there's talk that they're going to franchise Sammy.
Starting point is 00:44:59 So I think it's all going to stay the same. That line's going to get better. And curious to see what they do at tight end. But other than that, I think it's going to be the same. That line's going to get better. Curious to see what they do at tight end. Other than that, I think it's going to be status quo. They're not going to do anything at tight end. You never know. How would you rank them? The receivers? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Woods, Kup, Watkins? Dave? God, they're so interesting. I think I certainly and a lot of other people just have to get over the idea of Sammy Watkins as a capable weekly fantasy option. Why? Because I think the other guys are better suited for it, and the opportunities bear it out. Well, I guess my hope for Watkins, and I can make the case of taking him over Kup, is upside.
Starting point is 00:45:43 He's a better player than Cooper Kup. And he didn't have a lot of time in this system in the offseason. It's a tough situation to go to. So if they bring him back, he has a full offseason. He's the most talented wide receiver on that team. And Woods really showed a lot. Woods is good. But they were on Buffalo at the same time, and Watkins was a lot better.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So I don't think that's gone. I don't think that was fluky at all. That's my argument for him. Well, if you go back to that report, I forget. Maybe it was Greg Cassell who said in watching Goff, he doesn't go all the way through his progressions, and you would hope that that changes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:20 I just think that Cup, what he showed as a rookie, he had a couple big drops, especially in the end zone. If he comes down with those, his numbers look a hell of a lot more impressive. Guess who had the most double-digit fantasy point games of the three? Cup. By two games. He had six. Woods missed three or four games. I'll tell you why I don't think it's going to happen for Kup quite like that. I don't see him leading the NFL in red zone targets again.
Starting point is 00:46:50 No, but he may lead his team in red zone targets. Well, he had double. So he had 26. Gurley had 13. Woods had 12. Watkins had 11. They like him. Yeah, he's good.
Starting point is 00:47:01 His numbers in college are unbelievable. And what do you do with him if you've got Woods and Watkins flanked out and you've got Todd Gurley in the backfield? You're really going to say our number one guy to take away in the red zone is Cooper Cup? That's hard to do. And Cup is 6'3", lining up in the slot. He can line up outside in the red zone too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I don't think that role is going to go away for him. Okay, so it's one thing. There might be a case to make up the number one Rams receiver. Wow. All right. It's not walking. But how early do they go? Do they go before June?
Starting point is 00:47:33 They're all number three receivers. Okay. Well, that's interesting because that offense could take another jump next year. That'd be good value. If one of them is going to hit, that's going to be good value. I guess it could be a little bit difficult to hit, that's going to be good value. I guess it could be a little bit difficult to tell who it's going to be. You can probably draft two
Starting point is 00:47:50 of them before the end of round seven. Let me ask you a question about the Chiefs. Is there any Kareem Hunt bust potential next season? I mean, the way you're phrasing it, then the answer is yes. You could also say that he's a bust?
Starting point is 00:48:05 You could also say that there's plenty of bust potential for anybody in the National Football League next season. Okay. We're going to start this one over. Let me ask you a question about the Chiefs. What do you think the chances are that Kareem Hunt is a bust next season? Ten percent. I think he proved that he's a good, versatile, heavy workload running back. And I think that offensive line has a chance to get a little bit better this offseason.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And I think he's going to continue to be great for fantasy. The concern would be is that there's a change in how the offensive approach is with Mahomes. Right, right. No, that's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I can't just assume he's going to be great. There could be some befuddling weeks. I can't imagine, No, that's a big deal. I mean, I can't just assume he's going to be great. There could be some befuddling weeks. I can't imagine, though, that it's get away from what Andy Reid does because he's had different quarterbacks throughout his tenure, and he's managed to make them work for the most part. I just would expect to see the pass catching stay, and the running is not really going to change dramatically. Okay, here's a question about the Bills. I just wonder what they do with Spencer Ware, though. Here's a question about the Bills. Does LeSean McCoy have another good year in him?
Starting point is 00:49:13 Yes. Good year. Who do you like more right now, McCoy or Blunt? McCoy or Blunt? Or Ajayi? Oh, McCoy. Yeah. Unless they add somebody, but as of now, McCoy.
Starting point is 00:49:24 But I bet they do add somebody. But definitely Blunt's a first-round pick next year, right? Look, I mean, it comes down to Gurley or Blunt. Gurley or Blunt, yeah, exactly. Spencer Ware's still under contract for them next year. Yes, yes. And at a good, cheap price. So he'll be given a chance to earn a role.
Starting point is 00:49:43 And finally, for Carolina, is Christian McCaffrey going to be a consistent running back in standard scoring leagues? I love Norv Turner coming aboard there for Christian McCaffrey. Can they
Starting point is 00:50:00 take away Jon Stewart? Sure, it could be a cap casualty. The thing is that if they get rid of Stewart, there's going to be somebody else there. I don't think Christian McCaffrey will be – think about all the great running backs that Norv has had, LaDainian, Emmett, all those guys.
Starting point is 00:50:16 I don't think he'll be like that. But I think he is locked and loaded into this pass-catching role. And he should see an uptick in carries too. So I am very excited and very optimistic about McCaffrey next year. McCaffrey was 17th in standard, 10th in PPR at running back with 117 carries, 80 catches. I mean, his second half was much better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Well, we'd like to see 180 carries. That'd be nice. I bet he'll fall under that. He'll probably be right around an average of 10 a game. The only guy who was better than him with fewer carries was Duke Johnson.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Really? What was Chris Thompson on a per game average? Probably would have been better. Yeah average? Probably would have been better. Yeah, he probably would have been better. But that's where the league is going. It's the Pete Prisco airbag. Well, it's been going there for years.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Right, but I think they really get going that way now. The hope would be that he can be closer to what Kamara was. Now, they were very similar in terms of their receiving prowess. McCaffrey was 80 for 651 and 5, so he averaged 8.1 yards per catch. So he wasn't as good as Kamara, who was 81 for 826 and 5. But that's at least a comparison to look at. Kamara's a better rusher. I'm just talking about their receiving ability.
Starting point is 00:51:38 And then Kamara averaged 6.1 yards per carry on 120 attempts. McCaffrey was at 3.7. So McCaffrey needs to be probably a yard per carry better to take that next leap because I don't see his receiving numbers changing dramatically. He's not going to be a 100-catch guy, a 90-catch guy. He'll be in the 80s again. I would love to be able to do this research because you say they're moving into airbacks and whatnot. It's definitely true, but i wonder at the same time is it also true that that the nfl is going to become more of a running league finally after years and years of being a
Starting point is 00:52:15 passing league it does seem like these teams are fine having a bell cow running back when they get one yeah and they're more willing to look you look at that that's always been the case even in the last five years yeah but no i i think that i think when you look at, yeah. And they're more willing to draft them. That's always been the case, even in the last five years or so. Yeah, but no, I think when you look at the NFL draft, they're more willing to take running backs in the first 10 picks. Oh, the last three teams that drafted running backs first this year were very – or the last two years were very successful in the playoffs. Who would that be? Well, you go back to Gurley three years ago.
Starting point is 00:52:42 You see the dividends that it's paid. Ezekiel Elliott last year led them to the number one seed in the NFC. And then this year, Fournette. Fournette. Yeah, they're drafting some great players. I like it. I love it. I mean, Melvin Gordon was a top 12 pick.
Starting point is 00:52:56 You see the success that he's had for the Chargers. Yeah. I think any team that gets a running back who can play in a versatile role and physical, they'll use him in that every down roll. Yeah, now the counter to that will be, well, we got Alvin Kamara in the third round, and look what he's done for our team. Absolutely. And David Johnson as well.
Starting point is 00:53:19 All right, so some emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. This one could take all show, but we're going to do it in a minute or so, a minute to two. This is from Rob. And where's Rob from? Rob is from Yuma, Arizona. And he says, Dear Ed, Jeff, John, and Tony.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Ed, Jeff, John, and Tony. Oh, yeah, no idea. Question. Those are people. Yeah, yeah, no idea. Question. Those are people. Yeah, I'll give you the free agent and two possible landing spots. You tell me the best fantasy spot. Jimmy Graham, Houston or Green Bay? Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Houston. Sammy Watkins, Pittsburgh or San Francisco? San Francisco. Yeah, it's got to be San Francisco. Carlos Hyde, Indianapolis or the San Francisco? San Francisco. Yeah. Absolutely San Francisco. Carlos Hyde, Indianapolis or the Giants? Indianapolis. Yeah. I'll say Indianapolis too.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Jarvis Landry, Carolina or Kansas City? Ooh. Carolina. I'll say Kansas City. Can you imagine Cam with a guy like that? Yeah. He's got no accuracy. He's such an inaccurate quarterback.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Really? I think what type of route does Jarvis Landry run? The accuracy of Ryan Tannehill and Jay Cutler is so impeccable. Everybody's better than Cam Newton. It doesn't matter. Jarvis Landry is running 15-yard routes. Seven yards away from the line of scrimmage will be fine. No, that's not Cam's strength.
Starting point is 00:54:45 This is what I said when they drafted Curtis Samuel and Christian McCaffrey. I said, I don't think Cam Newton is the right quarterback for this type of offense. He doesn't throw short stuff. He needs time in the pocket. He needs to air it out. That's when he's at his best. Well, who led all running backs and targets? I don't think he's going to either of these teams.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I think we're spinning our wheels. Trey Burton, Miami or Baltimore? Miami. Yeah, Baltimore's not going to take another tight end. Isaiah Crowell, Tampa Bay or Seattle? Can you take the Browns offensive line with him to Seattle? Well, no. You have to choose. Tampa Bay or Seattle? Yeah. Well, no. You have to choose.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Tampa Bay or Seattle? I think Seattle. Yeah. Seattle? All right. But he'd have to beat up Carson with that job. Heck, are Ed, Jeff, John, and Tony. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:37 From J-Mac. Referees, Ed Hockley, Tony Carrente. Jeff Triplett. Jeff Triplett. John McEnroe. This is from J-Mac. Hey, Mike, Otis, and Wilbur. Are you serious with that false start?
Starting point is 00:55:55 Who the hell are Mike, Otis, and Wilbur? Chicago Bears linebackers. Oh, okay. Singletary. Thank you, Dave. Otis Wilson, Wilbur Marshall. I, as a kid, I hated it when Wilbur Marshall went to the Redskins. Oh, okay. Singletary. Thank you, Dave. Otis Wilson, Wilbur Marshall. I, as a kid, I hated it when Wilbur Marshall went to the Redskins. Oh, terrible.
Starting point is 00:56:09 12-team league with 18 rounds, one keeper. Todd Gurley in the second round. Hopkins in the fourth round. Kamara in the ninth round. Yes. He made this question very confusing, so I don't know that we're answering your question because there's more to it than that,
Starting point is 00:56:27 but we're just going to answer it now. He wants to know which one guy to keep from those three. That's what it seems like, but then after that he writes something that makes no sense. So Gurley in the second, Hopkins in the fourth, or Kamara in the ninth? Kamara in the ninth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Best value. All right. Petey from Slower Lower Delaware. Hey, Randall, Donovan, and Carson. I know them. Eagles quarterbacks. 12-team, two-quarterback dynasty league. I need to upgrade at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I was offered Matt Ryan, Devin Funchess, and my choice of P. Ryan, Tevin Coleman, or Alex Collins for Fournette. So give up Fournette. Get Matt Ryan, Devin Funchess, and let's say Alex Collins. Would you do it? Yes. I wouldn't. Jamie, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Yeah. Really? You can if you want, but... Okay. Definitely giving up the best player. Right. Sometimes you get that. Those Dynasty Leagues are tough, man.
Starting point is 00:57:20 They're just like no free agents. It's impossible to trade. It's tough. So I understand you have to overpay for the quarterback. I just wish it were better than Matt Ryan. Adam, we're going to have to make some tough decisions on our roster, man. They're just like no free agents. It's impossible to trade. It's tough. So I understand you have to overpay for the quarterback. I just wish it were better than Matt Ryan. Adam, we're going to have to make some tough decisions on our roster, though. You won, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 We won. So I trust you. All right, this is from Taylor. Taylor's from where? Faster Upper Delaware. Hey, P-lover Dave Javiot Heath. I do love peas. Love them dearly.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Is squash really a fruit? No. Like, why did Heath say that? Heath is trying to be controversial. I play in a 12-team PPR keeper league where you can keep two players in the round prior to where they were drafted and can do so for up to four seasons. So I drafted Kamara in the 14th round this year. I'm set up with what seems to be great long-term value. But I was recently presented an offer of two first-round picks
Starting point is 00:58:16 and a fourth-round pick in this upcoming draft for Alvin Kamara. Yes. You'd do that trade? In a heartbeat. I guess the question is, though, who are the first round picks? If everybody's keeping two players, does that mean that you're basically going to get a third one?
Starting point is 00:58:31 Theoretically, the top 24 players are off the board. One is Saquon Barkley. Can you keep him for four years with a first round pick? I don't know, but you're giving yourself the chance to win right away. What's the rule with a player that's taken in the first round? Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:58:46 You don't want to keep him. It's a rule. You can keep him in the round prior to winning. That's too much value. You have to make that trade. Okay. Dave, what do you say? I don't think you have to make it at all.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Also, kind of bad news for fantasy owners. Bryce Love, Stanford running back, returning for his senior season. He's so good. All right, we can wait one more year. All right, fine, Dave. I'll be patient. Don't get hurt. For Dave, for Jamie, I'm Adam.
Starting point is 00:59:13 We'll talk to you later this week. Take it easy, everybody. Bye. It's all right. I've got Le'Veon. It's all right. Not George Le'Veon. It's all right. I've got Le'Veon. It's all right.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I've got Le'Veon Bell.

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