Fantasy Football Today - 01/16: WR Reflections and DFS Advice (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: January 16, 2020

Kicking off the show with players we like (2:00) and players we don't like (8:00) in DFS this weekend. Should you spend the money on Derrick Henry and Patrick Mahomes? Should you avoid Aaron Jones this week? Also Jamey tells us about his time at the FSGA Awards (10:25) with some industry insight ... WR reflections (15:24)! What kind of a year was it for WRs? Are we transitioning into a new era at the position? Which duds can bounce back next year? And who are some sleepers, breakouts and busts (33:40) in 2020? ... Back to DFS (37:40), we give you some lineups and talk about the key players in this weekend's games including the cheap players you can use to fill out your lineup. Do you go with a KC stack? Do you pair Mahomes with A.J. Brown? Do you favor Travis Kelce or George Kittle? ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. And welcome to the Thursday edition of Fantasy Football Today. We got a four-man show today. Adam Azer, Jamie Eisenberg, Heath Cummings, and Ben Gretsch. We have two main topics. We'll bounce around a little bit. We'll start with some DFS. We'll end with some DFS.

Give you some FanDuel and DraftKings lineups. But we're going to talk about wide receivers. Was it really? Because I made the case on Tuesday's show that it was a bad year for wide receivers. You know, maybe it was. Compared to 2018, it was. But we'll talk more about that. We'll get some takeaways from the wide receiver position.

We welcome Jamie Isenberg back from Las Vegas. Welcome back, Jamie. You were at the FSGA Awards. Is that repetitive? The FSG Awards? No, it's FSGA Awards awards the a doesn't stand for okay right what is it what does a stand for oh association that's right yeah fantasy sports gaming association right yes i took a red eye back just to be here for you nice and we have

big news about that spoiler alert jamie won an award we'll talk about that um heath thank you for calling me out on my initial thing there. My initial thing that I'm wrong about. Well, I thought you were going to start by saying I said wide receiver was really bad last year. Heath disagreed. And actually, it turns out Heath was right again. No. You didn't do that.

You weren't right. You were right. I would say it's somewhere in the middle. Somewhere in the middle. I didn't say it was a great year. I just said I don't really think it was that bad of a year. It was pretty bad. And Ben Gretch is here.

Hello, Ben Gretch. How's it going? Excited to get in. Yeah. Hey, I don't know if you saw the emails that we have in today's show, but one person gives a big shout-out to Ben Gretch, so stay tuned for that. FantasyFootball at CBSi.com.

We'll read your emails. All right, we're going to start with DFS real quick, and then we'll talk mostly receivers. Then we'll come back, look at the two games, talk about some lineups. Give me one player you like in DFS. Heath, I'll start with you. I like Derrick Henry. But on a limb.

Not a bad player. He gets the Chiefs run defense. I think I'm just going to play Derrick Henry, and then I'll just figure the rest out around him. How do you do it? What do you mean, how do you do it? He's just so expensive. If you play Derrick Henry, because I have Mahomes,

and I had a hard enough time filling out a lineup without having at least one scrub in there. Henry's so expensive. How do you manage it? Well, you're either going to have to not play Mahomes, or you're going to have to play one or two scrubs. But there are plenty of scrubs to play this week. I mean, obviously, Henry's been on just a historic run with what he's done really the last four games.

The game against the Chiefs in week 10, he went off. 188 yards and two touchdowns. Their run defense the last seven weeks has been pretty stout since then. Which gives? I think probably their run defense. Yeah defense yeah yeah i think he's too hot right now and i don't really like their run defense has been better they really don't want to get beat over the top and that happened once last week i think they're they're more worried about aj brown yeah i think they're more worried about aj brown you said this the last time when we talked about i don't think they're more worried about aj brown i. Brown? You said this the last time when we talked about Derek. I don't think they're more worried about A.J. Brown.

I'd rather make sure Ryan Tannehill and A.J. Brown don't beat you if you have the Chiefs offense. And if the Titans want to run the ball 35 times, we're going to score 35 points. Let them run it. But that's what happened the last time. They scored 35 points and they lost. Ben's on my side. Actually, I'm completely against you. I think it makes a lot of sense for the Titans to hope that Henry can dominate on the ground and keep Patrick Mahomes off the field as much as they can.

I just don't think they're going to have a lot of success stopping Patrick Mahomes. I think the Chiefs, we talked about this going into last week, the Chiefs are healthier than they've been all year. Mahomes had a couple ankle injuries, then the dislocated kneecap. Tyreek Hill was out early in the season. Damian Williams was in and out of the lineup all year. They're're healthy right now and they looked really good even after they got down early against Houston their offense is as explosive right now I think as it was in 2018 I think they're gonna put up plenty of points on the Titans and force the Titans to throw oh I think they are definitely

gonna put up plenty of points on the Titans I just don't think there's any chance the Titans run the ball fewer than 20 times like Derrick Henry's getting 20 attempts if they're down 14 points in the second quarter 14 points in the third quarter 14 yes if it's more than that though that's the concern right so do the does the chief's defense show up early as opposed to last week where they you know i mean the punt return the punt block right was a big part of that but you know the score is skewed in the Chiefs' favor so dramatically. This is going to be a big test for what Henry is facing because this is the toughest offense that they've faced so far in terms of what the explosiveness can be.

Not that the Ravens' or Patriots' offense is bad. Well, Patriots' offense. But different animal. Yeah. All right, Ben, give me one player you like in DFS this week. I have A.J. Brown as my player. I think it's a good time to get back on him. He struggled against really tough cornerback matchups. The Chiefs have been pretty good against receivers.

I don't put them in that class. He struggled when he was shadowed by Marshawn Lattimore and shadowed by Stephon Gilmore. The Ravens don't really shadow, and I don't think he was shadowed last week, but very good against wide receivers as well. But I think A.J. Brown's a really top talent, and I think that they're going to trail and have to throw on the road. And I think we'll see him put up pretty big numbers. It's a good time to be back on him in DFS now that his price has dropped a little bit. Yeah, he's got two catches for 13 yards in the playoffs,

but they're just not throwing. Ryan Tannehill's throwing, what, 29 passes in two games. You know, you got to hope that he'll throw 29 passes in this game. You know, if you're gonna play aj brown who is the third most expensive wide receiver on fan duel and i don't quite remember on drafting's pulling up a lineup now he's fourth buddy a little bit of a discount fourth okay thanks jamie one player that you like in dfs this week i'll just stick with the same theme of the titans uh johnny smith um you know he's i i do think the Titans are going to have to throw in this game.

Smith is the fourth most expensive tight end of the four that you would consider playing, Kelsey, Kittle, Graham, and Smith. And the fact that he's behind Jimmy Graham on DraftKings, I don't know what he is on Fandle, but that is just, I think, a great buy at $3,400. Because you're going to have to save money, most likely. It's just, you know, it's not a deep

slate. It's only two games. So maybe that's one of the scrubs that you could go with. And the tight ends, it was Ferkser, I believe, in the first meeting who got a touchdown against them. I like Mahomes because I don't like any of the quarterbacks this week other than Mahomes. I don't like Rodgers. I don't like Garoppolo because I think they're going to have

more success running the ball. I don't like Rodgers. I don't like Garoppolo because I think they're going to have more success running the ball. I can't trust Tannehill. So I think Mahomes was the guy that I gravitated toward. I got to get him in my lineup. I know it's expensive, but if I'm playing up for someone, it's Mahomes, guys.

Why is it you can't trust Tannehill? Because he's thrown 29 passes in two games combined. But that's with them playing with a significant lead, though. Yeah, maybe. So look, I guess if I like Mahomes, I should probably like Ryan Tannehill, right? Because Tannehill's going to have to throw.

So he would be my second favorite. But I don't know. What's going to happen when they get near the end zone? It's going to be Derrick Henry. Yeah, I mean, but still, the fact that he threw as little as he has. I mean, he's got 160 passing yards in two games. Is it 160 or 130? One of those two.

Under 200 yards passing in two games. He got three touchdowns last week, four total for the playoffs. So it's not like he's not scoring. Yeah, that's fluky. No, but he was terrible against the Patriots. So terrible or just didn't do much? Yeah. No, he was terrible for fantasy.

He was terrible for fantasy. Right. But if you think the Chiefs are going to play with a lead, you have to like Tano, or you should like Tano. I think that makes sense, unless you just think the Chiefs might blow him out, which, you know, it's possible, but probably not. I mean, let's give the Titans some respect.

All right, that makes sense. Put it this way, I'm avoiding the quarterbacks in the NFC game. So that would be the player I don't like in DFS. Heath, who's a player you don't like? So you took that would be the player i don't like in dfs heath who's a player you don't like so you took two players for the player you don't like sure okay i'm gonna go with aaron jones i might play both the running backs from the chiefs titans i play derrick henry and damian williams my two favorite running backs because i have no idea what the 49ers are going to do like we didn't for most of the year so i I'll say Aaron Jones against that 49ers defense. Okay, Ben, don't like. I had Aaron Jones as my don't like.

I'll jump over to Tevin Coleman. I think, you know, he had a big game last week, but he had 22 carries and they ran a significant number of times because Mostert still had 12 and Breida had, I think, eight. So they ran over 40 times to their running backs. I mean, I don't think they're going to run 40 times to their backs most weeks. You know, I think obviously his home favorites,

it's a good spot, but I would rather go over to most certain and hope that maybe he gets the touchdowns this week. Then ride Coleman after he had the big game last week. Yeah. Oh man, there is such a big difference on draft Kings between Coleman and most are, and it's really not that small on,

on fan will either Coleman 700 more thanostert, so that caught my eye. Wouldn't you rather just spend less on Raheem Mostert than more on Tevin Coleman? Jamie, who are you avoiding? Derek Henry. Just the cost. I think Heath's right. He could have a big game, and Adam, like you said, he could be the one scoring touchdowns, but this just feels like this is where the run stops, and he doesn't have that big performance for what the cost is. And he's $1,000 more than Mahomes on DraftKings, and he's $300 more than Mahomes on FanDuel. He's $1,700 more than Damian Williams,

who I think can have a big game as well. And then it's a matter of do you want to go cheap with Mostert, which I think is the most logical pairing if you're looking at the running back plays if you want to avoid Henry you play Damian and you play Mostert and just hope that you know like what Ben said Mostert had a six game scoring streak stop last week where he had eight touchdowns in those six games and the 12 carries that he had was the most since the last time he placed the Packers which was week 12 so despite the fact that he had a calf cramp and Tevin Coleman was having a big game, they still gave Mostert a significant amount of carries.

So if he's getting 12 plus carries, I think that's a good opportunity for him. Like I said, he did score against the Packers in that Week 12 meeting. By the way, Heath, the original player that I was going to say that I didn't like in DFS was Aaron Jones. So you're welcome for not taking him. We all hate him. Yeah. All right. in DFS was Aaron Jones, so you're welcome for not taking him. We all hate him. All right.

Welcome back, Jamie, from the FSGAs, the Fantasy Sports and Gaming Association Awards. And you are a back-to-back winner of Best Analyst, which is amazing. It's hard to win those things back-to-back. So a huge congratulations to you. Well done. And how was your time in Vegas?

First off, I'll start with the award. I'm not the type of person that likes these things. So I think it's certainly a credit to all of us and everything that we do here. So I like to think that this is a team award the three of us the three of you along with Dave and our producers the people behind the scenes that don't get a lot of credit I think it speaks to all of us

and the work that we do here at CBS Sports so this is something I would say congratulations to all of us the cool thing about the conference which is the first time I've gone, is the chance to meet all the people in the industry, which is so amazing. And it's just such a great group of people. You know, we compete with them. You know, I use that word loosely, but the first time I met like the fantasy footballers, for example, and like, you know, you want to hate them because

they're so good at what they do. And here these guys are who are, you know, at the peak of the business. They won the podcast award. You know, they're a fantastic group of guys. And here they are saying that they got their start essentially from, I know they've said this to you, Adam, before, and they referenced it, from listening to us. You know, and that's something that is like so flattering to hear. There was one story in particular that sort of struck with me. I'm not going to say the person's name, but said that there was some conversation about this other analyst referenced to us many, many years ago. And Adam, we brought that person on the show when they were at a much smaller site. And because of that appearance on the show,

they went from the small site to a bigger site and from a bigger site to now one of the major sites. And this person was telling me, you know, how influential that just appearance was. And so, you know, obviously I've been doing this a long time now, it's almost 15 years for me. So I'm one of the older members of our fantasy community, which feels weird. But you hear stories like that and it's just like, you know, so flattering and just sort of blows you away. And I, I think, you know, that's, that's something that's really cool. The other thing that was just awesome is, you know, I was there, Chris Towers was there,

Ben Trager was there. Um, so many people talking about all of you guys and asking about all of you guys, you know, um, Ben in particular, you know, the, the, the people that know you, Ben, we're asking, uh, you know, just how, how nice it is to have you part of the group now. Heath and the things that you've done since joining the crew. Adam, they were saying, do you really not leave your house at all? It's true. Things like that.

But it just was really, really a great experience. And I'm really thankful for the FSGA for the award and thankful for our fantasy community to be able to spend some time with a lot of the guys that do a lot of just amazing, amazing work. And congratulations to all the other winners as well. Yeah. And I have no idea who you were talking about with the analyst that we brought on our show. I'll tell you off the air. That was shared with me, you know, privately and I didn't want to necessarily,

you know, you know, make it, make it public. Uh, one, one other thing, just because he's,

uh, he's done such great work, you know, congratulations to Scott fish who was named the humanitarian of the year from the FSGA. Um, he does just such fantastic, you know,

endeavors with the, uh, fantasy cares and, and the Scott fish bowl. Um, you know, I, I've said this at the ceremony. Heath and I were talking about it off the air. They should change the name of the award to the Scott Fish Humanitarian Award, and Heath brought up a good suggestion that Scott should be able to pick the winner of that

or give that honor. It's not really a winner. Give that honor. And so, Scott, congratulations to you as well. Yeah, congratulations to everybody, especially Scott, and to you as well. Yeah. Congratulations to everybody, especially Scott and to Jamie, to all the winners out there. And yeah,

good stuff. And we're glad to have you back. Jamie, I hope. Back to you. No days off. No days off. Hey,

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years ago we had ab des bryant demarius thomas jordan nelson aj green those types of guys at the top that aren't there anymore. And I just love the depth heading into 2020. I'm just going to name off some names as my one to three sentences here. It's going to be a lot longer than that. But Chris Godwin, Cooper Cupp, Kenny Galladay, DJ Moore, Devontae Parker, Michael Gallup, Calvin Ridley, DJ Chark, Tyler Boyd, Cortland Sutton, Terry McLaurin, AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel, DK Metcalf, Darius Slayton,

Preston Williams maybe, Marquise Brown, a reemergence by A-J. Brown, Deebo Samuel, D.K. Metcalf, Darius Slayton, Preston Williams, maybe Marquise Brown, a reemergence by A-Rob. He's only 26. There is so many young receivers that had great 2019s that this position is in really, really good shape going to 2020. Okay, that was only two sentences. Good job, Heath. One or three sentences on the wide receiver position.

Almost exactly what I had planned on talking about, except in a little bit different way, but just with the youth coming. I'll flip it around on the other side, and this is not describing the position, but I think it's another thing to watch out. I think Ben described it perfectly. Watch out for the old guys. Julio turned 30. T.Y. Hilton's now going to be 30.

A.J. Green's going to try to come back at 32. Guys like Marvin Jones. I would watch out for those old guys heading into this year and beyond. In a positive way or a negative way? Negative way. Negative way. Yeah. Jamie, sum up the wide receiver position.

Negative except for Julio. Except for Julio, yeah. I think it kind of speaks to what both these guys are saying. More saturated, but in a good way. So the guys at the top, I think we saw they faded a little bit, but we're seeing just a potential for guys to sort of crack the top 24, the top 30, whatever number you want to put it at. We saw that this year from guys who had potential once upon a time,

like a Devontaeer or a dj charke who you know sort of took a maybe a bigger leap than anybody expected derry slayton you know somebody like that um aside from just the top tier rookies that we saw so i think it's going to be interesting to see when we get to drafts how many people gravitate toward wide receivers early or just kind of say i'm going to wait a little bit and hope to take three to five good guys starting maybe in round it's almost like you know um uh the the reverse of of waiting on running backs um you know just just sort of doing the same thing with receivers and my sentences to sum up wide receiver much worse than 2018 but still not bad but the elite guys disappointed If you look at the top 12 in average draft position,

only four of them finished as top 12 wide receivers in PPR. Going back to look at fantasy pros ADP, which is almost identical to CBS ADP. It was Hopkins, Adams, Julio, Michael Thomas, Tyree kill Beckham, Juju Evans, Antonio Brown,, Phelan, Keenan Allen, and Diggs. Only four of those 12 finish as top 12 wide receivers. And I think the big question is, you know, you talk about all this youth and you talk about watch out for the older guys. You know, how are you going to approach it in 2020? Are we seeing a true changing of the guard? Or are we maybe another year away from that?

You know, like how much time do those the wide receiver have been a pretty stable position i felt like we were really getting a lot of the same name showing up in adp toward the top this these guys do who are really carving out great careers it was an era of great wide receivers you know are we seeing the end of that era you know how how much into that transition are we about with the old and with the new i'd say right in the end of that era? How much into that transition are we of out with the old and with the new? I'd say right in the middle of it. I think it's going to be really tough this year to contrast those guys that made the leap into the top 12 last year. We probably expect them to slide a little bit.

And the guys that we drafted in the top 12 that weren't that good, but we expect them to bounce back a little bit. And they're all going to be kind of right there in the middle. I'm not sure they're quite going to be available round four round five it's gonna be like that round three range is going to be a ton of wide receivers some of them who we don't think will be quite as good as they were last year and some of them who i think will bounce back yeah i mean i i think the reason i said that round four range is like i'm thinking of like robert woods and yeah you know, where will Juju settle? Cooper Cup, you know, you're going to get a run, I think, round two, round three of, you know, the top 12 guys will be gone. It's I think it's that 13 through 25 group, 13 through 30 group. Right.

You know, and I think that's the group that's going to really determine how a lot of your teams look. If you don't invest early in one of those top tier guys with the hope that they are still great. That's the group I think that's going to determine a big part of what this position looks like in 2020. Okay. So yeah, are you going to take DJ Moore over Juju Smith-Schuster or Odell Beckham? Are you going to take one of those rookie wide receivers over like a Keenan Allen or something like that. We will talk about that in just one moment. Let's take a quick break here on fantasy football today. We'll be right back.

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Securian Canada, insurance designed for life. All right, welcome back. Let's pick it up right there in that conversation of kind of out with the old and with the new. And Ben, I wanted to get your take on that. How about this? Give me, let's say, some of the younger guys that you think are ready to be elite, if they're not already. And some of the older guys that you're putting behind these young studs that you like. Yeah, I mean, DJ Moore and aj brown or two that stand out for me

um pretty quick you never talk about those guys i know i never have really ever mentioned them but i you know i think courtland sutton's another another one that i i feel very strongly about um calvin ridley i think is going to go overlooked as a guy who definitely took a step forward because his final line pretty much matched his his rookie season line but he did it in three fewer games and he was a much better after sanu got traded i expect him to be very good in year three um but i i one of the things i'm going to kind of pivot away from your your question about the veterans one of the things i wanted to mention was guys like christian kirk and will fuller mike williams curtis samuel those are guys i didn't name when i named like 18 guys who had big 2019s those guys are all going to

be values next year. I mean, I think this receiver position, the big thing about the depth is I don't know that you have to necessarily pay up in the round three or round four range. And Jamie was kind of mentioning this. I think you're still going to be able to get really good receivers next year in round five, round six, round seven. And I've talked about that range as the kind of running back dead zone

already going into this past season. I know this coming year, I'll be spending those rounds really heavily investing in wide receiver. And you know what? Round five and round six were pretty good this year for wide receiver. That's where not necessarily in our drafts, but based on CBS ADP round five, we had Tyler Lockett, Kenny Galladay, Cooper cup, and Chris Godwin, and T.Y. Hilton and Calvin Ridley. Round 5 was awesome this year.

They went behind. You know, Round 4 wasn't bad. Diggs, Cooper, Cooks, it was bad. Edelman, Robert Woods. But, yeah, Round 5 was a sweet spot in wide receiver average draft position. I want to just give some – yeah, go ahead. No, I was going to say, I mean, you know, we've already done a couple drafts. And, you know, just looking at Round 5 already, this is our PPR one, which we did two weeks ago.

Calvin Ridley, Devontae Parker, Cortland Sutton. Those guys were in round five. Round six was Michael Gallup, Jarvis Landry, DJ Chark, AJ Green, T.Y. Hilton, Tyler Boyd, Christian Kirk, John Brown. I mean, that's a pretty good group. Yeah. How are we feeling wide receiver versus running back right now? I know that's a very generic question that probably requires an hour to truly answer. But, Heath, if somebody said to you, like, hey, I'm doing a draft, and I don't know,

should I favor wide receivers or running backs? Like, what's your take? I think it's totally going to depend on where you're at in the draft and who you're drafting with like if you're drafting when we do these drafts with me and jamie and dave and now ben's involved so it's not quite that much but i used to always know that i'm not going to get any running backs because dave's drafting for four teams and he's going to draft six running backs on each team um so i think you do have to kind of know but i still feel like other than michael thomas the elite running backs are better than the elite wide receivers and the mid-range wide receivers are better than the mid-range

running backs say that again the elite running backs are better than the elite receivers except for michael thomas and the like high-end mid-range wide receivers all the way through the full mid range are better than the running back options right Right now. The rookies are obviously going to change. How many wide receivers do you think deserve to be drafted in round one? And before you answer that, if you look at the splits, like we keep talking about DeAndre Hopkins

with Will Fuller in Will Fuller's healthy games. If you also look at the splits of Julio Jones with Calvin Ridley, he was on pace for 145 targets five touchdowns 92 catches 1,355 yards good but not great you look at Julio Jones's final season numbers like he went berserk the last three games of the year after the Ridley injury so those two guys you know they took a step back when everybody was healthy so with said, how many wide receivers do you think right now deserve to be first round picks? I'd lean towards three.

Which three? Well, obviously Michael Thomas. I think I'll probably have Hopkins and Julio in the first round. But I mean, I don't know for sure who would be number three. But I would expect I'm probably going to have eight running backs travis kelsey and three receivers yeah i'm probably about that that that number three i think tyree kill and devonta adams will also be in that discussion uh as you know top three top five guys in the the end of the first early second round maybe but uh i do think most of everything we're saying points towards yeah you can go running back

early and you should invest in some of these workhorse running backs early and still get receivers later so it shouldn't be receiver heavy early on yeah i i think you know probably four for me would be the the most with thomas for me adams is two and then hopkins and julio and let's let's talk about tamp Bay real quick here. Because based on last year, Chris Godwin and Mike Evans, they should be first-round picks. They were on a per-game basis. Both of them were top four wide receivers in PPR.

I mean, that is crazy. Two wide receivers on one team, Jamie. So I don't know that they're going to show up necessarily in people's top five. Certainly not in the top four, based on what we were just hearing, which is fine. But where are you right now on the bucks wide receivers, Godwin and Evans? And who do you like better start with that right now?

I'm still Evans over Godwin, but I'm going to probably go back and forth and then a hundred times in the next few weeks, a few months. I think it's going to come down to Jamis, you know, is he the quarterback if they move on from him and it's a rookie or is it you know i mean could be tom brady you know i've heard that as a potential landing spot for him that will be a big determining factor but if it's status quo uh jamis

and and those two guys assuming both are healthy then i think they're both early second round picks i think you know ppr more so than non-ppr, but top 15 selections. I think they both showed themselves to be pretty fantastic last year. I like to stir the pot. You said Tom Brady. If Tom Brady goes to the Buccaneers, it's a downgrade, right? Okay, yeah. I mean, it's probably good for Godwin, and it's a major downgrade for him. I don't think there's any free agent that makes them better.

No. Unless Breeze. You can make an argument there. But if it's a rookie or if it's you know they're taking a chance on a bridgewater or you know somebody non-jamis you know jamis is a perfect fit for those guys you know with what bruce arians does and what those guys are capable of doing i mean we saw it last year there were there were absolute stars yeah i'll have evans my top five i would guess and godwin probably around seven or eight okay so odell Odell Beckham and Juju Smith-Schuster, who thinks one of these guys can bounce back and be elite again?

Sure, either of them. Apparently no one. No, I think they could. I do. Well, look at our drafts. I mean, I think I took Odell in the fourth round. No, he didn't make it to the fourth round. I think I took Odell in the fourth round in the non-PPR,

which I was shocked about. I wanted to take A.J. Brown, but I ended up taking Odell over A.J. Brown. Juju went with the second pick of round two in the PPR one. Odell went in round three to you. I'll check the non-PPR one in a second. Here's something that I did notice about Odell Beckham it's not two years in a row and one with Beckham one without that Jarvis Landry has been the red zone darling and the green zone darling of the Cleveland Browns he had he had as many green zone or inside the 10-yard line targets as Beckham had in the red

zone this year and Jarvis Landry was third in had in the red zone this year. And Jarvis Landry was third in the NFL in red zone targets. So I don't like that, but I also mentioned it like a hundred times. They played an extremely difficult schedule. Uh, he played Beckham had only three matchups against teams that ranked in the bottom 10 in fantasy points allowed to wide receivers. And he was awesome in two of those three games. So, look, he was playing hurt all year. I know he's risky. As Jamie mentioned, I took him in the middle of the third round.

So it was about 30th overall in PPR. Ben got him in the fourth round in non-PPR. Jamie, is there something you wanted to add? I think I kind of jumped in there. No, no, no. I think the one thing that's going to be interesting to see is now with Stefanski as the head coach, I think it's going to be a Stefan Diggs Adam Thielen situation again you know this just feels the same way um two great receivers with an offense that's going to still want to run the

ball and and you know do play action get some boots and get the quarterback out on the move and is Mayfield did not support both guys at a high level on a consistent basis last year can he do that in this new offense? That's going to be the thing we have to figure out. Beckham in the fourth round is a very good value. I think the third round is kind of where he's going to end up settling. Yeah. Ben, let me ask you about A.J. Brown because how can you not be a little concerned

about A.J. Brown based on what we've seen in the postseason? Now, look, Derrick Henry's not going to get 30 carries a game. They're going a little overboard here. But I was trying to look at wide receivers that were on teams that were in the bottom five in pass attempts per game. And in the last five seasons, there's only been one wide receiver who's been a top 10 PPR receiver on an offense that ranked bottom five in pass attempts.

That was Doug Baldwin in 2016, I believe. And he was 10th in the last three seasons. There have been only one wide receiver finished higher than 20th in PPR on a, on an offense that ranked in the bottom five and past attempts. That was Tyler Lockett in 2018. And he was 16th. AJ Brown himself was 21st this year. And they were either last or second to last in pass attempts. But, you know, that's kind of an interesting stat, I think.

So what do you make of that and your love for A.J. Brown? It probably relates to Deebo Samuel as well, who I think we're all sort of excited about. Yeah, I mean, I think A.J. Brown, you made it right. You made the right point that you have to be concerned about the volume. But and one thing I would note, we just did those two mocks. I didn't take A.J. Brown in either. And, you know, when I had the same kind of excitement about D.J. Moore last year, I think

I was getting him in almost every single mock we were doing because I really liked the value. I think right now Brown is properly valued. I don't think he's like a screaming value, at least judging by the two drafts that we've done. There's a lot of excitement about him. There's a lot of reason to be really optimistic about him long-term as an elite talent. He was a really, really good age-adjusted producer in college.

And one of the things that I really love about that, now that we circle back, is he played alongside DK Metcalf. He played alongside Dawson Knox. And now that we've seen those guys do a little something in the NFL, it puts into perspective even more how dominant AJ Brown's production was alongside those guys. You don't necessarily see that as much. Like when Odell and Jarvis Landry played together at LSU, they stole production from each other.

DK Metcalf was banged up a little bit during that time, but there was a season he played almost, he played 12 games. And there was a season he played 12 games, and then the next season he played seven or so. But A.J. Brown just absolutely destroyed his production while they were playing together. And then you see Metcalf produce at the NFL level, and you say, man, A.J. Brown is a legitimate number one wide receiver who will produce. The problem is, yeah, will they throw enough and all those things? But you can go to tape as well. I mean, the guy looks like Terrell Owens. He plays so physical after the catch. I think he's going to be a star.

The question is, will he get enough targets, as you said? And I don't think you can draft him as a top five or top seven receiver because of that concern. And I started yesterday on my building the 2020 projections. And actually, I started with the AFC South. So I've already made a projection, a very, very early projection for A.J. Brown. It was funny because I do think he gets more targets next year. I've got him for 20 more targets, 12 more catches,

but he's not going to average 12.5 yards per target again. That was amazing that he did that. Nobody does that again, so I've actually got him for 20 fewer yards, 64 for 1,029 and 7 touchdowns. Probably going to be a low in number two, if if i was guessing which is what he was this year but of course that was like with tannahill he was like a high at number one you know i mean with mariota he was terrible but and snaps ticked up so his snaps ticked up throughout the year so i wouldn't look at his full year number he played in the 40 percent of snap shares all through September and then around 60% all through October.

And then he finally was full time at like week 10. It's just a weird combination where he's going to have a lot more opportunities and he's definitely not going to be as efficient as he was. And so his production may look pretty similar, even though it comes in a little different way. All right. I'm going to start. We're going to do sleepers, breakouts, and busts. I'm actually going to start with a bust and let you guys talk about it a little bit. I'm nervous about Devontae Parker.

I really wanted him in the draft we did. He went in the middle of round five in the PPR draft. It was a three-receiver league, and I was two spots away, and I was hoping to get him. But I think, you know, look, his splits were dramatically different with Preston Williams and without Preston Williams. I think he probably showed enough to earn a bigger role, even if Preston Williams comes back and he's healthy and whatnot.

But look, if they keep Prince Patrick, I'll like Parker. But the way I see it now is if they don't, they're going to have a downgraded quarterback. If it's Josh Rosen, he's awful. If it's Tua or something, that seems far-fetched. So I'm nervous about Devontae Parker. Thrilled with the way he played. He was awesome against some of the toughest competition in football, but I worry about the situation

for him next year. I agree. I think Fitzpatrick is important to him. He was way better with Fitzpatrick. Bust for me, Stephontex. Oh no, we're going to have a fight. Why? No, we already did that.

Adam already told me that JB's not happy with the evidence. Oh, yeah, top 10. Oh, yeah. No, that's terrible. So I said on the show that he probably won't wind up in my top 10, and I will say that when I was making that top 10, I felt very strongly that I could have put about 20 players right there at the back of the top 10. I think there's a really good case for them.

So who were the other 19 that you – A.J. Brown was one for sure. A.J. Brown was absolutely one. He was almost the widest he ever did on my list. I'll say Julian Edelman for my bust. I think it's pretty obvious that this will be the last very good season of his career. He's going to be 33. He's always had injury problems.

It was only his third 16-game season of his career. He's going to be 33. He's always had injury problems. It was only his third 16-game season of his career. We know Tom Brady's falling off. This is not a guy that you want to be taking in round three, four, wherever he goes, just because he had a 100-catch season in 2019. Heath. Things will have to happen for this to actually, him to be drafted in a place that he can be a bust, but I'm going to say A.J. Green.

I just worry at his age, he's going to be 32 years old it didn't even play last year i think people are gonna get excited when they draft joe burrow and then aj green's gonna come back and they're gonna treat aj green like a top 15 top 20 wide receiver and i don't think he's gonna be that anymore i'm not so sure he's gonna be the number one wide receiver on the team all right how about some sleepers slash breakouts guys that we think are going to be good draft values at wide receiver on the team. All right. How about some sleepers slash breakouts, guys that we think are going to be good draft values at wide receiver? Ben said Hardman. Yeah, I don't know if Sammy Watkins will be back.

I think he was really efficient. I mean, Heath just mentioned A.J. Brown's efficiency, which was almost tops in the league. But Hardman, I think, even had a better yards per target, a lot fewer targets, obviously, but was very explosive when he got opportunities this year. don't know that sammy walkins will be back if miko hardman is a is a starter in this kansas city offense he's going to be a star jamie and heath would you like to talk now i thought jamie was starting so no i i think ben

mentioned one earlier from breakouts calvin ridley uh i think he's going to get a little overlooked just because of the injury at the end of the season and you know for whatever reason i think people are sort of down on the falcons which you know if you look at their team as that's sort of understandable but you know entering his third year julio is going to probably start to take a little bit of a slide production wise um ridley's numbers were identical almost to a t and you know this is i think that the type of third year breakout you know i talk about that all the time with the third year receivers that this is the type of guy that i love is you know very productive in his first two years and the chance to really take that next step forward

and i think he's going to do it i'll take dk metcalf um i think we all loved his athleticism and his ability coming in we thought man he's a project he's going to take a little time he can't turn all the jokes he did things in the playoffs that he couldn't do at the beginning of the year. And the fact that as raw as he was, he put up 900 yards in his rookie year. He's make some lineups on FanDuel and DraftKings, and we'll start with the AFC game, Tennessee and Kansas City. And I guess, Heath, let me start with you. If you're going to put Derrick Henry in your lineup, you talked about the scrubs that you need to complete it, and you said there are a lot of them.

Who are some of the scrubs, whether it's from this game or the other game, that you like this week that you can surround Derrick Henry with? They are all wide receivers. I've not found, and I'm only looking at FanDuel, I've not found a scrub at any other position that I want to play, but there's a bunch of them, and several of them are actually from this game. I think Mecole Hardman, Demarcus Robinson

had a terrible game last week, but he still saw four targets. He's playing with Patrick Mahomes. At any point, one of those targets could turn into a touchdown. So Hardman andinson are both below 5 000 cory davis is right at 5 000 and he's not what i was hoping he would be but in a situation where we think they could be chasing points he could definitely score a garbage garbage time

touchdown and then if alan zard plays i think one of those green bay wide receivers so much was made about how davante adams basically had all the receiver production. 49ers have a very good defense. They're going to do their best to take away Adams. One of the secondary receivers from the Packers, I think, could be a good option. Okay, and philosophically, with a two-game slate, you know, would you rather...

So, for example, right, I've got some studs in there. I've got Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, Devontae Adams, and George Kittle in my FanDuel lineup. Would you rather have more balance, or are you okay having studs and duds? You want studs and duds? In my opinion, and Ben or Jamie might think something different, but in my opinion on a two-game slate, it is that much more important that you have the top overall plays because there's not really any way to overcome that. If somebody's going to score 40 this week,

you've got to have that guy or you lose. So I want to play the three or four guys that I think could be the top-scoring players at their position. Yeah, the thing that's going to win this for you is going to be the fluke play. It's not going to be the stud going off because everybody's going to play some level of these superstar players there's going to be so many people with mahomes with kelsey with kittle with tyreek it's just it's hard to avoid it it's you want to make sure you have those numbers and then hope that you hit on a miko hardman or like for me it's kendrick bourne you know i think you've

seen enough of him he's like for three three touchdowns in his last five games or six games whatever it is um you know that's the type of of guy you need to to set you apart but you can't overlook those stud players when i when i construct these lineups i on a small slate like this and both guys are right these guys are going to have massive uh massive ownership percentages everyone any anyone who's a notable name is going to be in a ton of lineups, right? So I'm thinking of it two ways. One, who am I putting in my lineup and I'm making a decision that I think that player is going to do well. And anyone that I'm not putting in my lineup, I'm making a conscious decision that I think

that player is going to do poorly. Because if anyone that I leave out of my lineup who is a vaguely popular name who does well is going to sink me because they're going to have massive ownership percentage. All those names you named, George Kittle, Tyreek Hill, Devonta Adams, Patrick Mahomes, if I don't play any of those guys, I'm making a conscious decision that that player is going to underperform or else I lose. And if they underperform, I want to know who in that game will perform well if they do. And for instance, if you don't play Patrick Mahomes, you're probably playing Derrick Henry. You think that they're going to run the ball, the Titans are going to run the ball,

maybe win, you know, and control the game. If you don't play Devontae Adams, you might be playing Aaron Jones, right? So you want to consider how these things all correlate. And when you're making a decision not to put a high-owned guy in your lineup, you're making a decision to fade that player. He has to do poorly or you're going to be sunk. So maybe pairing Patrick Mahomes and AJ Brown would make sense. Is that kind of what you're saying? Yeah. Right. Now, the reason why we didn't want to start Aaron Jones is the 49ers defense has just

been unbelievable against the run in their last eight games. No running back has 70 rushing yards. You are talking about Aaron Jones, Mark Ingram, Alvin Kamara, Devante Freeman and Dalvin Cook. They all scored five or fewer non PPR fantasy points and seven or fewer PPR fantasy points. Dalvin Cook did not even have 20 rushing guards last week. And they're also the best against pass-catching running backs. So that's why we are getting away from Aaron Jones this week. I don't know that we'll necessarily break down the games, but let's just talk about it. Like, Jamie,

talk to EFS. I'm just going to leave it open-ended and what you want to do this week i want to play mahomes um you know i i think there's you know we sort of touched on this earlier i think there's two quarterbacks that make sense it's mahomes and tannahill because of how that game should go i'm gonna avoid henry because how i think that game's avoid Henry because of how I think that game's going to go. I just don't think that he's going to have the same heights that we've seen, the same ceiling that he's reached. I think that A.J. Brown has a chance to bounce back because of game flow. John DeSmith, like I said, is somebody who's a good cheap option.

But it's a weird slate because of the way that these four teams are sort of structured and the defenses that they're facing. Aaron Jones is one of two Packers that you should like, but it's hard to play him. So really for me, the only Packers guy that I like to the extent of wanting to play is Devonta Adams. And for the 49ers, it's really just Raheem Mostert based on his price,

unless you want to play Kittle or Samuel, but you know, those guys I think are sort of can be replaced with some other options. So, you know, Mostert is my favorite 49 years guy. Devante is my favorite Packers guy from that game. And I,

for the most part, I'm just avoiding that game. I'm just play as many chiefs and Titans as I can. Do you want my lineup at them? Yeah, let's do lineups. All right. So I've got my homes,

Derek Henry and Damian Williams. Actually, it's just a full chief stack, except no Tyreek. So my homes, Damian Williams, me, it's just a full chief stack except no Tyreek. So Mahomes, Damian Williams, Mecole Hardman, and Travis Kelsey. And then I've got my other receivers are Corey Davis and Debo Samuel. I've got Alan Lazard in the flex and the Packers defense as the cheapest option. How much do you care about defense? I also ended up with the Packers. That

was not by design. I don't really like the only, I don't really like any of the defenses, so I don't care that much. They're about $600 apart. You're hoping for a pick six, and I think really the most likely quarterback to throw an interception is probably Garoppolo. Yeah, and this is on FanDuel, by the way. This is Heath's FanDuel lineup. I want to talk about Tyreek Hill. You said he's not in your lineup. He is in mine, and he really hasn't been very good. Since he came back from the injury, he's not getting a lot of targets. Since coming back from the injury that he suffered in that game, I believe it was in Mexico City against the Chargers, he's had eight, eight, seven, five, five, and four targets in his last six games. Talking about Tyreek Hill, Ben, who had 41 yards in a game in which the chief scored a touchdown on seven consecutive possessions and and Patrick Mahomes scored five touchdowns I

have the tendency to just put my faith in him I know he's been a streaky player in his career and he always has massive upside but is is Tyree kill do you think he is he a trap this week no no I I will never say Tyree kills a trap. He's the kind of player that can, you just said it. He's streaky. He's a explosive. He can completely change the slate with, with one play. Right. So I I'll be back on him. I had a lot of him last week. I had my homes as my quarterback. And I think every single lineup I did, um, for the full weekend slate and I didn't stack him with Kelsey and Damien enough. I did. I had, I had Hill in a ton of lineups and I'll, I'll be right back on that. I mean, even though it didn't stack him with Kelsey and Damian enough I did I had I had Hill in a ton of lineups and I'll be right back on that I mean even though it didn't work for me last week I'm

very content with with that um structure you know I think teams focus on taking him away more than other team more than than other players but I don't think that it's easy to do for for as long as teams have been able to do it I think he he's going to have a big game either this week or if they make it into the Super Bowl in the Super Bowl. The nice thing about it is that when he faced them the last time, obviously it was a different game. I don't think it's going to go the same way. But 11 catches, 157 yards, and a touchdown on 19 targets.

That would be amazing. You'd take that all day. I like the fact that he's talking trash, though, about that no one can guard their receivers. You know, so, you know, maybe that's something Mahomes wants to allow him to prove that. But I think it kind of goes with what Ben is saying. You don't want to, and I know you feel this way, Adam, but you don't want to miss out on that if you can play. You really can't play both Hill and Kelsey. It's just almost difficult to do if you're going to have some semblance of a good running back.

And so you have to sort of pick if you want to have one of those two guys. If you can make it both work, then you're sacrificing probably somewhere else. But it's hard to overlook what those guys will do. I just don't think you're going to get monster games from both of them like we saw last week where it was Kelsey going off and Hill not doing very much. Alright, I'll get a lineup from Jamie, get a

lineup from Ben, and I'll give a lineup. And just final question here. Well, I do want to point out if you're thinking about playing Devante Adams against the 49ers, 49ers have actually kind of struggled against wide receivers lately. They've allowed a touchdown to eight wide receivers in their last five games. The elite ones have really kind of gone off on them. Michael Thomas obviously had a huge game, 134 yards and a touchdown. Julio Jones, 134 yards and two touchdowns. Robert Woods, 117 yards. They all had double-digit targets.

And Devontae Adams will probably have that because he's had double-digit targets in seven of his last eight games since returning from injury. So I like him a lot. I think he's worth the price. Kittle versus Kelsey. Kelsey's a lot more expensive. What side of this are we on? Kittle versus Kelsey, Jamie a lot more expensive what side of this are we on uh Kittle versus Kelsey Jamie Heath Ben I mean they look Kittle was disappointing last week but you know he's he's

always in play the Packers you know their their defense has been better against tight ends of late but I still think that's a weak point for them it just I think comes down to what you want to spend you know if you want to sort of go a different route then Kittle makes a lot more sense but Kelsey at this point it's hard to say. I don't feel confident in him. If anybody's been watching the Chiefs. Who's a better value? The value is Kittle.

What's the price difference on DraftKings? Like $1,300 or something. It's $800 on FanDuel. It's $1,300 on DraftKings. Yeah, I would play Kittle on DraftKings. I'd play Kelsey on FanDuel. Ben, give me your favorite lineup. You know, I honestly haven't even started building them.

I just threw one together, though. Like, this is an idea of the kind of tournament lineup I'd build. It'd be Mahomes, Damian Williams, and Tyreek Hill. Bring that back with A.J. Brown and John New Smith. You're kind of expecting a little bit of passing on both sides, Casey getting out in front. And then the way that I built this lineup, I put Raheem Mostert and Tevin Coleman in the lineup and the San Francisco defense.

And you're essentially hoping for a San Francisco dominant performance where they're running the ball 30, 40 times. And I added Emmanuel Sanders in there as well. So I didn't play a single Packer. And I think that's another thing you can think about on two game slates is how these game flows are going to go and what that means for the overall statistics. And so this would be KC and Tennessee, a little bit of a shootout, and San Francisco dominating Green Bay. That's a DraftKings lineup or a FanDuel lineup? That was a FanDuel lineup. I have an almost identical lineup on DraftKings.

I have Mahomes, Damian Williams, and Raheem Mostert. Tyreek Hill and A.J. Brown. Deebo Samuel instead of Emmanuel Sanders. I have George Kittle at tight end. I have Jamal Williams as my flex. He's extremely cheap. He's kind of a dud that I'm putting in there. Look, he had almost no work, but sometimes we see that first game back after an injury. So that's a little bit of a Hail Mary. Oh, okay. I didn't even remember that. Yeah, I think he had seven catches in that game. Right, and I'm thinking they could be trailing here. So Jamal Williams, I don't expect a lot from him,

but that could be the kind of play that makes you stand out. Nobody's going to want Jamal Williams. And the 49ers DST. Jamie, your favorite lineup? It's very similar. This is on DraftKings. I have Mahomes, Mostert, and Damian Williams. Tyreek Hill, A.J. Brown.

I have Kendrick Bourne as my third receiver. John Newsmith at tight end. Devontae Adams at flex. And then the 49ers defense. Looks like the 49ers defense on DraftKings. And Heath said the Packers defense on FanDuel, which is also what I have. All right. I think you all get a sense of who we like this week.

So good luck in DFS. And yeah, hope that was helpful. Let's read some emails to finish the show. From Kyle in Ohio. Dear Tevin, Raheem, Matt, and Jarek, what are you doing in Dynasty with the 49ers backfield? I currently have both Coleman and Mostert on my Dynasty team. Who would you rather hold,

and what would you look for in a trade for each or both? It's a half PPR league. Heath, what are your thoughts on the 49ers running backs in dynasty i appreciate the confidence in us since like as an industry we were wrong about this backfield on a weekly basis like eight out of 16 weeks i'm sure we're going to know three or four years in the future i i prefer coleman still the most of the group. He's a year younger than Mostert, who's already, I think, 28 years old. I think none of them were in my top 30. I just updated all my Dynasty rankings. They're on the site.

You can go look. Breed is the one I think is a restricted free agent. So if they let him go, he's probably going to a team where he's in a backup situation again. It will all depend on his landing spot and then what happens to the guy in front of him. Okay. Okay, great. Thank you, Kyle. a backup situation again it will all depend on his landing spot and then what happens the guy in front of him okay okay great thank you kyle uh subject line the good place this is from kevin in a town in the heart of silicon valley silicon valley uh so this is for ben hey eleanor chidi tahani and jason did i say that right ben yeah while ben is not a While Ben is not a pop culture maven, he is 100% correct on his take on The Good Place. An innovative concept with an amazing ensemble cast really makes this show a joy to watch. And I haven't even mentioned the best part, Blake Bortles' references. Okay. Speaking of Jags

QBs, how come Heath did not have Gardner Minshew on his all decade team it's a great great question yeah I mean I this is probably the best question or best email that we've gotten on here it's a great show and you guys should all check it out portals you didn't answer the question

Ben what was the question it was for you how did you he said you were supposed to answer it. I don't know. I don't know how I didn't make it. Because Heath's list was perfect and that would have been ridiculous is the answer. You already admitted your list wasn't perfect and you took Larry Fitzgerald

off of it. That's right. We had to make an amendment for it to be perfect. By the way, when Ben says this was the best email of the year, he's only talking about 2020. Maybe that is the best, but Ben says this was the best email of the year, he's only talking about 2020. So, yeah, maybe that is the best, but not a lot of emails. This is from Jason. Dear Dream Team.

All right, he writes a whole spiel here. You guys can read it, and if you think it's relevant, go for it. But he's in an eight-team dynasty league with his wife's family. Okay, would you trade David Montgomery for the eighth overall pick in the 2020 rookie draft it's more of where would david montgomery be in a rookie draft if he were in this 2020 class i also have miles sanders tevin coleman ronald jones and darius geis yes i would oh wow really i would not i mean he had a he had a poor first of all i haven't done a ton of rookie work but i a lot of people that i trust have and have said this is a very very good 2020 class but david montgomery was not the like the top pick last year he was maybe the third or fourth

pick in rookie drafts and he had kind of a poor rookie season so if you can reset that by taking an eighth overall pick a first round pick that is in a much stronger class might even be an equal talent but that we haven't seen play yet and has you know the potential to be just an absolute star yeah i would rather go at someone that is an unknown than that david what we saw today from montgomery it would still be great but i'd rather have montgomery than an unknown if you were to redo the draft rookie draft now is he even a top 10 pick no because he's behind why would you rather have montgomery than unknown heath he's behind jacobs he's behind sanders he's behind singletary right i would think you have it that way um i think i still have him one spot ahead of singletary really

yeah okay he did like his bad year was still like 1100 yards and eight touchdowns. He didn't have an awful year. I don't think this is a David Montgomery's awful. I'm just looking at it from how many receivers from this past class would you have over him? Because I think A.J. Brown's better than him. I think Metcalf is better than him. I think Debo Samuel's close. Terry McLaurin is close.

I'm getting to the top 50. Top 150. That's kind of, I think, it's like I'm getting to the top 50. Top 150. It's like we're getting to eight, essentially. Well, here's the... Tyler is... Sorry, this is kind of why I have an issue with it, right? Because his running backs, for a 12-team league, they're not very good. For an eight-team league, they're horrible.

So I think you really need to be looking at running back. He's got Miles Sanders, which is great, but Tevin Coleman, Ronald Jones, and I guess Darius Geis could be okay, but that's an unknown. But for an eight-team league, that's pretty bad. So you really should be taking a running back with your first pick. So he could potentially

get two of these rookies, though, because I'm assuming the eighth pick is not him. But the eighth pick is probably not going to be that very high-end running back. Yeah, but you say that, though. Singletary was a second-round pick in most rookie drafts. Sanders fell. I got Sanders in one of the only drafts. But also, Darrell Henderson was probably like an eighth.

Oh, there are plenty of good and bad examples both ways. I mean, we were sitting here and telling people Paris Campbell, Mecole Hardman. I know he came butler for you at the end or you know around the draft process uh you know there was a number of guys that we talked about that failed right you know and that's just the nature of it right now but i think this rookie cast like like ben alluded to it's fantastic the wide receiver class is fantastic so he may be looking at he can get let's say because his running backs are so bad in an 18 league let's say he's in the top three picks. He can get one of the studs and then still maybe get two of the studs

because there's going to be receivers that go in those first five or six picks as well. All right, let's go to our next email here. It's from Jay, a.k.a. Mr. Waverwire. Pick one keeper in a PPR league. Aaron Jones in the fourth round. Cortland Sutton in the sixth round, Devontae Parker in the sixth round, DJ Moore in the ninth round, and Jameis Winston in the 13th

round. DJ Moore. Yeah, it's DJ Moore. Also, he sent this email a week ago. He said, my bold prediction is my Kansas City Chiefs knock off the Baltimore Ravens to go to the Super Bowl and win. Jay. You're win? Jay.

You're wrong, Jay. That was not even a bold prediction at the time. They were like the third most likely team to go to the Super Bowl at that point. Yeah, and you got it wrong. It's the Titans. From Don, subject line, Lamar Jackson. I hope he does not develop a mental block about winning pressure-filled games. Great for the regular season, but the playoffs, not someone you could put your trust in.

Why did you put this email on the show? You want to set the bar low for the worst email that we received in 2020? I guess so. Lamar Jackson's younger than Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, everyone loves Joe Burrow. And Joe Burrow won his playoff game, Ben, both of them. Yeah, well, Lamar Jackson would have destroyed Division I this year. This is such an absurd

thing to think about him at 23 years old. I agree. I just wanted to get people all fired up. Thanks for listening, everybody. Good stuff. I did. I did. The good place sucks. Is that what it's called? The good place? Yeah. That's it. It sucks. Whatever.

Thanks for listening. Have a great weekend enjoy the games we'll talk to you uh oh i think on tuesday actually because monday is a holiday we'll talk to you on tuesday with a recap of the weekend and start talking about the super bowl a little bit for jamie for heath for ben i'm adam we'll talk to you next time on fantasy football today