Fantasy Football Today - 02/15 Fantasy Football Podcast: PPR Thoughts, Players We Love

Episode Date: February 15, 2018

Just a day after Valentine's Day we're giving you a player we love for 2018 (3:05). Then we welcome Larry Fitzgerald back (7:45) and discuss more news from around the NFL ... Thoughts on our PPR mock draft (20:28) and what changed compared to last week's standard scoring draft. We compare a team that started RB/RB with a team that started WR/WR (33:42), debate LeSean McCoy's value and much more ... Intriguing offseason players in the AFC South (49:10). Oh, and Adam finally pays up on his BeanBoozled bet ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Ian. Welcome back, everybody, to the Fantasy Football Today podcast.

Today, I've got one of the strangest Twitter polls I've ever posted. It just doesn't really make a ton of sense. Dave is going to talk about the PPR draft. And Jamie, Jamie Eisenberg, not Jamie Erdahl, J-A-M-E-Y, is going to talk about disgusting candy that he's going to force me to eat as we welcome you to the show on Thursday the 15th, right? Yeah, post-Valentine's Day. It is.

Yeah. Great job. Great interview with Jamie Erdahl on Monday. She loves football. She does. Which should be a requirement in life in general, but certainly in this job and in this world that we're in. Would you like a good Jamie Erdahl story from the Super Bowl? Yeah.

Yeah. So Jamie and I were both interviewing Jay Ajayi in YSA, both interviewing. We were about 20 people, at least maybe 50 people. Oh, so it was like media night. It was media night. I'm sorry. On media night. And she's standing there with her camera crew.

I'm just standing there kind of listening to what Jay is saying. And I know Jay a little bit from his training sessions down here in South Florida. First name basis. Yes, me and the Jay train. So as you're well aware of how media networks, there's some quirky people that tend to do some interviews. So this very pleasant woman walks up to Jay and says, Hi, Jay.

Can I do my British accent for you? To which I look over and I see Jamie's face and she rolls her eyes. And Jamie is as Minnesota nice as Minnesota nice gets. But if looks could kill, she would have killed this woman because this woman proceeded to ask Jay Ajayi questions in the most awful British accent possible. It wasn't even good. He was very nice in entertaining her attempts at her British accent. That's awkward. Yeah.

Jamie was not thrilled at all. Really? I didn't know that. It was that side of her. She hates English people, apparently. No, she hates people attempting to do – She probably hates people interrupting her awesome interviews. Probably.

It's a good thing we closed the door on the interview that we had with Jamie earlier this week. Close the door? Because otherwise people would have interrupted her and then she'd roll her eyes. Yeah, absolutely. All right, so listen, everybody. Here we go. Let's start the show.

Larry Fitzgerald, by the way, is coming back. That's crazy. Offensive coordinators have been hired. It's crazy that he's so good. No, that's not crazy. You didn't know what you were saying. I believe he's 35 catches away from passing T.O. for second all-time in receptions. Such a good lunch earlier.

Dave took me to lunch. Great lunch. Really happy about it. That would suggest that I bought lunch for you, which I didn't. You should have. I should have. Dave, what did you have for lunch today? I had this really nice rice bowl with chicken.

It was a fresco mix. It was delicious. Dave got the burger, but luckily his wife doesn't listen to the podcast. So here we go. Email of the day is from John in Toledo at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Since Valentine's Day has arrived, I thought I would ask a question regarding it. Who is your fantasy Valentine for 2018? A player you loved in 2017 that you think you'll draft everywhere.

Whether or not you factor in draft value is up to you, but I thought this would get interesting. It's actually something we do on the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast every Valentine's Day. A player we love for the season. So what about on football? I would buy this person a Valentine's

Day card that said, would you get in my car, son? And it's for Chris Carson. Because I've taken him in the two drafts that we've done so far. I really think he's a good player. I have no idea how he is coming back from this injury. Certainly expect Seattle to add running backs, but I also expect them to add offensive linemen.

I know there will be competition there, and if Chris is as good as he was last summer, I think he'll end up being the main guy in that backfield. And now you guys are on a first-name basis. I like it. He took me to dinner. I had a rice bowl. Jamie, do you have someone you love?

We've done two drafts so far, and I've taken Matt Breida in both. So with the fact that Carlos Hyde's a free agent, we'll see where he ends up playing. But I think Breida showed enough last year that he's going to have at least an 8-10 touch roll with the 49ers and could end up being a starter.

So that's a guy that I'm looking at right now. So would your Valentine's Day card say, Hey football player, when you come over to my house, I'll roll out the welcome, Matt. A Valentine's Day card would say that because they're awful. That's the point. Yeah.

I don't know who my player is. I really don't have anyone. I'm not feeling the love right now. Maybe I like Nelson Aguilar. I feel like he's good. I can't come up with something with Aguilar. Maybe Nelson? Full Nelson?

Are you ready? I'd like to put you in a full Nelson, Aguilar. Maybe Nelson? Full Nelson? Are you ready? I'd like to put you in a full Nelson, Aguilar. Let's go. First one right now. I'm opening the box. First one. We're going for more than one. Oh, there's at least five.

No, no, no, no. I'm doing one. No. I'm doing one. In case you guys forgot. I'm doing one, and that's it. That's fine. All right.

So Bean Boozled are the candies where it might be a delicious flavor. It might be a terrible flavor. You don't know until you start to chew it. Adam owes us one from something he did. No, no, no. I tried. You gave me like four months old. We gave you an old one.

Remember, he spit it out, so I don't know if that one counts. He spit them all out. He's never swallowed one. No, that's true. All right. Coming up on the show, our PPR draft. We'll review it. We will also give you intriguing players this offseason for every team,

each team in the AFC South and the NFC South. And your email is at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. David is spinning the wheel. I am currently holding the wheel of Bean Boozled. Now, would you like me to give it a practice spin? I don't care. Or do you want to just go through it? You're holding the box right now with all of the Bean Boozled now, would you like me to give it a practice spin? I don't care. Or do you want to just go through it? You're holding the box right now with all the Bean Boozled.

These are fresh. These are fresh as in they've been in a sealed box on Heath's desk for like three months. I can't do this. Yes, you can. I can't do this. There's a chance. I don't react. There's like a 50-50 chance that you might eat a delicious jelly bean.

For example, you might get lime or lawn clippings. But what if it's lime? That one can't be too bad. All right, hold on. Are you ready? Let's do a spin. No, lime or lawn. No, no, no.

You have to spin. It might land on that, but there's like 12 different things. And we go. Oh, it landed almost on lime or lawn clippings, but instead you get peach or barf. So I believe that it's this one right there. That guy. This one? It might be delicious peach.

It could be delicious barf. I need to talk to you. I can't. Do it. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I can't do this. Is there a diet restriction that you have with jelly beans? You do.

Yes, I can. What is it? I can't tell you. It's a diet restriction that you have with jelly beans? You do. Yes, I can. What is it? I can't tell you. Can you explain it? You're lying. You should be embarrassed to talk to us. It's a secret. We've known each other for years.

You're lying. I can't do this. You're lying. I took you out to lunch today. I can't do this. I just watched you eat a whole rice bowl. If this is barf, I can't do this. Would you like me to spin again?

No, please don't make me do this. I will make you do that one. Let's spin a different one. Let's spin a different one. Let's get a different one. Guys, I can't do it. No, please. I'm so embarrassed by it. I truly cannot do this Bean Boozled Challenge.

All right, I just spun it again. You can tell me if you like this one or not. It's either going to be a juicy pear or a booger. Let's go. Would it make you feel better if I did one with you? No, I don't want to do this. I really can't do it. Let's just take a 10-minute break.

Give me time. Larry Fitzgerald is coming back for his 15th season. That's crazy. Would you believe? Larry Fitzgerald was number eight in standard, number five in PPR last year, and he'll be 35 years old this summer. He's coming back again for his 15th season. He has 109, 107, and 109 catches in his last three years.

Is it time for me to stop doubting Larry Fitzgerald? Is he in line for 100 catches again? Who's the quarterback there? Does it matter? Because he actually averaged slightly, slightly, slightly more fantasy points per game, basically even with Carson Palmer and without Carson Palmer. I think it matters

with the coaching change too. Because Bruce Arian is certainly not going to be afraid to throw the ball no matter the situation. And we'll see what they decide to do. I think if there's a veteran quarterback in place that they'll have some trust with, let's say Kirk Cousins, that's probably going to be somebody that they let him have a little bit more free reign. Probably Case Keenum as well. But if it's a rookie, that could be a bad thing for Larry Fitzgerald. What about the rest of the receiving core?

Because that's an issue that I think they're going to have to deal with. See, that I don't think really matters when it comes to him because he's had so many different cast of characters around him the last couple of seasons. John Brown hasn't been healthy. J.J. Nelson hasn't been consistent. Do they have a field stretcher? Because they had a bunch.

Yeah, J.J. Nelson's still there. He is. Yeah, he's under contract. Okay. Chad Williams. It's both Browns are free agents as of now. And I get the feeling Jaron's got a better chance to be back than John. Well, are you going to...

Well, you already have your rankings out. Where is Larry Fitzgerald? Is he a top 20 receiver? Absolutely. He's the number one guy for me in PPR. Still. Yeah. Makes sense. It's pretty unbelievable what He's the number one guy for me in PPR. Still, yeah, makes sense. It's pretty unbelievable what he's doing. About 1,100 yards or so, six touchdowns each of the last two seasons for Larry Fitzgerald. And, yeah, top eight this year and last year.

I believe he was 17th in standard but 10th in PPR. So two straight years as a top 10 wide receiver in PPR. Also, he was pretty involved in the red zone, 21 red zone targets, 11th most in the NFL. That includes tight ends at every position. Only seven targets inside the 10-yard line. So we'd like to see that go up a little bit. All right, next news item here. Let's talk about all the offensive coordinators who have been hired.

And, you know, for the Colts, for the Giants, even for the Jets, I mean, they're just promoting their quarterback coach. I'm not sure that much is – well, you tell me. You've got Nick Sirianni going from the Chargers wide receiver coach to the Colts offensive coordinator. Mike Shula being hired as the Giants offensive coordinator. But both of those teams have offensive-minded head coaches. Who will call the plays. Who will call the plays.

Right. So these guys aren't play callers. They're just guys who will do what Frank Reich did in Philadelphia. Right. They'll help manage what the game plan is going to be from game to game. And Jeremy Bates being promoted from quarterback coach to offensive coordinator to the Jets. That's a little different because he is going to be the play caller for the Jets. But it's a role he's had before.

Okay. So I don't – I mean this isn't like stuff we have to crunch and break down. The Niners signed Daniel Kilgore. They're centered with three-year contract extension. The Steelers will no longer wear the Bumblebee uniforms. How about that? The retiring them, huh? Hate them.

They are awful. I don't think they liked them either. Yeah. What about the Optimus Prime uniforms? What are those? Oh, Bumblebee. I like that. I was watching Transformers 2 the other day.

Sometimes you don't realize it until later. That is a dreadful movie. That is one of the all-time worst until Transformers 3 came out, which is even worse. What about the reboots? Have you seen the reboots? Oh, with Megan Fox? No, Megan Fox was in the Ninja Turtles reboot, right? Yes.

That I watched about five minutes of and was embarrassed for humanity. I didn't see the other... No, the Mark Wahlberg Transformers? No, I didn't see that. Did you? Yeah. Wait a minute. That was a reboot? Well, yeah. They got rid of Silabuff. But how was it?

It's still the same Optimus Prime. Sure. It's the same story. All right, all right. Optimus Prime. Sure. It's the same story. All right, all right. John Gruden said he hopes the Raiders can get the best out of Michael Crabtree. The best value out of what they traded for. You think so?

You don't think this means he's bad? I mean, it's hard to say. You know, this seems like it could be a power struggle going on because Reggie McKenzie, the general manager, said, and I believe it was at the end of the season, or at least hinted at the end of the season. I don't think he said it, but there was a report that Crabtree will not be part of the Raiders this year. So I'm sure if you're looking at it from Gruden's perspective, he would like to have him around. Yeah.

They save almost $8 million if they cut him. I believe they've got a decent amount of cap space, so there shouldn't be any pressure. Yeah, they could also restructure him still, too. Okay, that's Michael Crabtree. Ty Montgomery, ESPN, speculating that he could move back to wide receiver, which I actually drafted him in this PPR draft. I actually had that in mind when I drafted him.

If he's running back eligible and he moves back to wide receiver, that would be pretty awesome. First time I ever heard it was out of Jamie's mouth, and it made sense when he said it, and it makes perfect sense now. You get rid of Randall Cobb. He's got an expensive contract. We also had an emailer, by the way. If you remember, when Jamie said that, I said, oh, we have an emailer who had the same thought.

So one of them stole it from the other. No, they both independently came up with it. Someone's a crook. Yeah. No, it's very interesting. Yeah. And to ask's very interesting. Yeah. And to ask the question, well, does that mean you can still start him as a running back next year? I don't think so.

If he goes to camp as a wide receiver, he will be a wide receiver. Might be worth owning as a wide receiver. Yeah, sure. Anybody that gets 50-plus catches has a chance. Should be drafted at least. And then this is interesting here. Jeff Legwald, the Broncos reporter for ESPN, he thinks Denver will move on from C.J. Anderson,

and they want to make Devontae Booker their number one running back. This guy's had chances and really hasn't. He's produced for fantasy, at least he did in 2016. I don't think it's really a total fair basis of judgment to say where he is right now. Booker? Yeah, because he played the nine games without Anderson in 2016 when Anderson was hurt with that bad offensive line and bad quarterback play. And then he comes back this year and he's part of a three-headed competition, three-headed backfield.

Right. But, you know, I think when he's had opportunities. You're right. The numbers are not great. Under four yards per carry. Right. You know, he's shown some flashes. And remember, he's not young.

He came into the NFL at 24. So it's not like we're talking about a fresh prospect. But my guess is it would still be a committee. D'Angelo Henderson would hopefully get an opportunity. But they're going to add somebody else, whether it's a mid-round draft pick or still another free agent off the street, if they get rid of Anderson altogether. I mean, that's just something, again, that's being speculated. And Booker was not drafted in either of the drafts we've done, standard or PPR.

Oh, he was. He was drafted. He was round nine by Chris Towers. What? Well, what's going on with Control-F? Why isn't it working? Okay. Well, that's on me then.

So with that said, those are your news and notes for today. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Did you guys see the two bills? Yes. That's good. Isn't na, na, na, na. Did you guys see the two bills? Yes. It's good. It's really good. Yeah, interesting stuff. Anytime you get Belichick to open up on things,

it's refreshing because he doesn't normally do that, but it's also great because he's got wealth of knowledge and it was an amazing experience from his life that he was able to go deep on it was very cool so i tweeted out that you're going to take your bean boozled like a man today no you were wrong about that one of our former uh colleagues a uh a member of the fantasy community uh daniel dobish uh replied and said that his son loves the barf and dead fish but actually threw up playing the game and when when he played, he got toothpaste.

So he's very thrilled. I heard that toothpaste is like the easiest bad flavor to deal with. What does that tell you about what I expect to be eating? Yeah, we're going to make sure it doesn't land on it. Let's do another spin just to see what comes up. Let's talk football. Actually, let's talk about something even more important here. And that's eHarmony, one of our newest sponsors. Listen, we want you to sign up on eHarmony

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For your fantasy squad, you can have one running back and one wide receiver from the same NFL team. You must select one of each position. Of these four choices, which NFL team gives you the best running back-wide receiver combo? The Rams, the Bengals, the Vikings, or

the Eagles? The Rams, the Bengals, the Vikings, or the Eagles? A running back and a wide receiver? Who do you want? What do you think? Who won wide receiver. Who do you want? What do you think? Who won? No, who do you want? Who would you pick?

Oh, I would take Brandon LaFell and Giovanni Bernard. Okay, the Bengals are in third place right now, Jamie. So, yeah, we're looking at like... Couldn't I just take the Rams to get girly? Yeah, of course. And then Cooper Cup to supplement? Of course, you could do that. Well, the results, they're still coming in get girly? Yeah, of course. And then Cooper Cup to supplement? Of course you could do that. Well, the results, they're still coming in.

We got about 1,000 votes. They're very interesting. The Rams are at 41%. The Vikings are at 40%. The Bengals are at 14%. And the Eagles are at 5%. I was almost tempted to go with the Eagles with an Ajayi-Alshon combo. I gave you somebody who could speak to you in a British accent if you'd like.

Talk you off that ledge. Is it that stupid? No. Should it be 5%? I mean, that's what surprises me. What's the format? I didn't specify. Half PPR.

That's what you always say. Yes, half PPR. So the Rams, Bengals, Vikings, or Eagles are running back and a wide receiver. Who would you take? I mean, I voted Rams to get Gurley and Robert Woods. So that was my initial vote because I think you get the number one running back and the Rams' best receiver. And, Dave, you're going Rams also? Yes.

So Vikings are number two, basically tied with the Rams. And that's a good one. I think the way most people probably approach it is they rank the running backs and then they just kind of go that way. Apparently, yeah. But if they're ranking the wide receivers, it'd be the Bengals, because A.J. Green is consensus the best, you know, highest ranked of any of the wide receivers. And then Mixon could have a big... If you're going by the wide receivers, you'd probably go Bengals, Vikings.

Eagles, Rams. Eagles, Rams, yeah. Yeah. All right, so you guys say the Rams. I probably would, too. Well, that was boring. Well, the Steelers are the king of this contest, anyway.

Here it is. You want to see another flavor? No, I can't do it. I'm a pansy. I'm a wuss. I can't do it. Give me those jelly beans. Come on. I want to motivate you can't do it. I can't do it. Give me those jelly beans. Come on. You want one? Let me show you how it's done.

No, I want to motivate you to actually do it. All right. So I've landed on the peach and barf. Can you at least call them jelly bellies? Because they give the brand. Which one is it? Is it this one? Peach.

Oh, now you just took a good one on. No problem. Now I'm more likely to get barf. It could have been yours. It's probably barf, but he's just like, it's barf. You want to talk about the PPR draft? Yeah. Okay.

So what were your observations? This was 12 teams. Two running backs, two wide receivers, tight end kicker defense, and a flex. So I'm sure a lot of people have a wide receiver as their flex. And it was 15 rounds. What were your observations from this one? So in comparing this to our standard draft, which we did last week, there were 19 running backs drafted in the first three picks,

first three rounds. So first 36 picks, 19 running backs. No quarterbacks in the first three rounds. This time it flipped. There were 17 running backs drafted in the first three rounds, 19 wide receiver tight ends. So the change in format swung it in that direction. The first round of the standard draft, there were four receivers drafted.

This time there were six. And a couple guys got pushed up into the first round that weren't there. The last time, one was Kamara, who should have been in the first round in the standard draft, and the other one was Keenan Allen. Okay. So did you find that the top 15 picks or so, or 20 picks, were more or less the same people, just different order?

Like guys, owners getting one running back, one wide receiver? Yep. I'd say it's probably the first, looks like 18 picks. 18, yeah. Because Fournette went the fifth pick in the second round. Mm-hmm. So, well, Gronk was the second round pick in both formats. So I guess you could say the first 17 picks.

Okay. And the first quarterback off the board in the standard draft was Aaron Rodgers in the middle of the fourth round. So around 40th overall. And do you know where Rodgers went in this one? He went earlier. He went at 37th overall. What? Wow.

I mean, that was a swing pick. Somebody picked it on the end, yeah. Right. Okay. The next quarterback did not go until the following round. So Brady was the second quarterback off the board in round five. Yeah, like Larry Fitzgerald, just to stay topical, third pick of round four. One pick after I took Brandon Cooks. I will say that I passed on Fitzgerald just as I to stay topical, third pick of round four. One pick after I took Brandon Cooks.

I will say that I passed on Fitzgerald just as I did in the standard draft because not knowing the scenario of what he would do. Right, exactly. Now, question is, would I have taken Cooks or Fitzgerald if I, like today? I think I probably still would have gone Cooks. I think Fitzgerald would not have gotten out of the third round. Sure. All right, so fine. So, well, no, because he was –

Thielen, Cooks, Fitzgerald were the three wide receivers who went back to back to back. Yeah, but I think I would take Larry Fitzgerald over Alshon Jeffrey and PPR easily. I'm just saying hypothetically of those three, Thielen, Cooks, Fitzgerald, how do you rank them? Fitzgerald, Cooks, Thielen. All right, Dave, you actually went with three wide receivers with your first three picks in the standard scoring league, which was, you know, we talked about that a lot. Experimental and weird. Yeah, and they were the only three receivers you took.

What did you do in this draft? Well, I had the number one pick, so taking Todd Gurley first. Nice. Kind of easy to do. And when I was up for my swing picks in rounds two and three, I was hoping that the top two players left on my board would be players that fit into, not just need, but players that were worth taking there. And it happened.

Tyreek Hill, I think he fell to me. I love getting him in any type of a draft. Last pick in round two, that was great. And I'm not in love with LaShawn McCoy, but I think that he can still squeeze out another decent year. And he'll catch a lot of passes in Buffalo. So he was my top pick in round three. There were the last two guys, I want to say in my top 25-ish. It couldn't have been top 25-ish because there were only 23 picks

when it came back to me. But call it top 20. Very happy to get them both. And then I was just able to kind of play it by ear. Leaned a little bit more on wide receiver when I was up with my next two picks. I got Golden Tate and Devin Funchess then. And I'm definitely going to stick to this strategy. Yeah, it's a good one in PPR.

I think it's going to be a good one. I don't know if it's going to be a great one. I could see his catches going down a little bit with the Lions improving their run game this offseason. Well, what's interesting about PPR is, you know, like a lot of people go receiver heavy, understandably, but the running backs that catch passes might be the most valuable players or might have the biggest boost from one format to the other.

Sure, because not only do they touch the ball more than wide receivers do, but now those types of running backs are getting 50 catches a year. Yeah, so you, for example, instead of taking – Gurley, number one, was an easy call. But instead of taking two wide receivers, you took Tyreek Hill and LaShawn McCoy. LaShawn McCoy caught 59 passes last year, 50 the year before. So don't just fall into the trap of, oh, I've got to take two receivers with my second and third round picks. A running back who catches passes is very valuable. And that's part of the reason why I was comfortable taking McCoy there.

Right. I'm going to be comfortable taking McCoy at the top of round three in any draft. He won't be there, though. I don't think he will be either. And I'm worried that he'll get overpicked a little bit. What do you mean he won't be there? In standard? He won't fall to 24 or 25.

Yeah, no. In a standard draft. Okay, what about in PPR? Do you expect him to be there in PPR? Or do you think he just went late? No, I think he'd actually get picked a little bit sooner than that. I think the general public is still going to take LeSean McCoy earlier than we were. Who went ahead of LeSean McCoy that you're surprised about?

It's not really about a surprise. I just don't think what Dave said. I don't think the general public is going to look at a featured guy that's had as much production as he has and has really shown no sign of decline yet, even though he's starting to hit those numbers. But I think we have to start to reevaluate those numbers as the body changes. Sure, okay. But I guess all I'm saying is it seemed like a perfectly reasonable place for him to go. Again, I don't disagree with you.

Do you think he will go earlier? I think based on our drafts versus average draft position, there's going to be not the same. It's not going to mirror each other. Do you expect LeSean McCoy to be taken before Mark Ingram? In some drafts, yes. Would I do it? No. The one that was interesting was Christian McCaffrey,

three picks ahead of LeSean McCoy in PPR. But in PPR, though. I haven't ranked that way. Would McCaffrey have 80 catches last year? Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty good. Right. You're still getting very good players, 25 picks in. LaShawn McCoy off the board there.

I was seriously considering taking Devontae Adams over A.J. Green. You took Devontae Adams seven picks later. That was a great pick. I don't know if he's in the minds of fantasy drafters, if Devontae Adams is in the elite tier yet. Oh, he is. In your mind. Yeah, I know what you're saying, but he is.

Again, take it for what it's worth. I talked to him at the Pro Bowl. He seemed really genuine in the fact that he was proud of how he got to the Pro Bowl this year, that did it without Rodgers. And I said to him, I said, is that something that you kind of take you kind of take a little bit more pride in knowing that you didn't have him for most of the season? He said, yeah, you know, most people look at us and they say, we're a product of our quarterback, and he's obviously the best in the business.

But, you know, I think I opened people's eyes by showing that I could play. And he probably did. I mean, you know, he had a great stretch without Rodgers. All right, so just to speak more generally about it. Plus if they do lose potentially both Nelson and Cobb, which could still happen. Let's go through the first few rounds and we'll just give quick thoughts and then we'll talk about sort of how we structured our teams. Gurley, Bell, Antonio Brown, David Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins, Ezekiel Elliott.

That's your top six. Gurley, Bell, Brown, David Johnson, Hopkins, and Ezekiel Elliott. That's your top six. Gurley, Bell, Brown, David Johnson, Hopkins, and Ezekiel Elliott. Jamie took Johnson. I think the most interesting thing here is that comparing standard to PPR, Ezekiel Elliott drops from third to sixth. And these are going to be the first six names taken in every single draft.

He had 32 catches, Ezekiel Elliott. I guess... In 12 games. He had 30 to the Ezekiel Elliott, I guess. In 12 games. Yep. He had 32 the year before. Or not 12. 10 games. 10 games.

Okay, so he was on pace for what? For about 50 catches, actually. Yeah. That's pretty good. So should he drop behind DeAndre Hopkins and Antonio Brown and David Johnson in PBR? Zeke? Yeah. I mean, you know, it depends on what you want.

If you want to take a running back receiver, he's behind Johnson for me. I mean, you know what David Johnson did two years ago, I think is certainly capable of what he's capable of replicating that. I've got him fourth. I still have him ahead of Brown and Hopkins and PPR. I planned on Johnson going at three, so I was going to take Antonio Brown at four. Okay.

And you took Johnson instead because Brown went third. Now here's another way to think of it. You've got one of those early picks, and you're deciding between Ezekiel Elliott or Hopkins or Brown. The wide receivers that would have been available to you, you could have gotten fortunate and had Devontae Adams fall to you, as Jamie did in round two with the ninth pick of round two. But if not that, you're looking at Hilton, Tyreek Hill, Jarvis Landry, Diggs, Baldwin, Jeffery. I put Fitzgerald there. Okay, Fitzgerald.

The running backs, you could get Devontae Freeman, McCaffrey, LaShawn McCoy. And then there's a drop-off. I was planning on McCaffrey. Had Adams not been there. So you could have started your team. Would you rather start your team, Antonio Brown and Christian McCaffrey, or David Johnson and – Devontae Adams.

Okay, fine. David Johnson and Devontae Adams. Put Tyreek Hill there if you want. I think we'll put Hill there just because I speculate Adams will get pushed up a little bit. So Tyreek Hill and David Johnson or Antonio Brown and Christian McCaffrey? When I saw his picking fourth, I actually thought those were my first two picks were Antonio Brown and Christian McCaffrey? When I saw his picking fourth, I actually thought those were my first two picks were Antonio Brown and Christian McCaffrey. And instead you ended up with Devontae Adams and David Johnson.

Which do you like better? Probably in the long run, Brown and McCaffrey. Interesting. I like Adams and Johnson. Yeah, I should probably admit that. I think the fact that Adams fell makes that a little better. Yeah. Okay, next six picks in round one.

Beckham, Kamara. Kamara, the fifth running back off the board. Julio Jones, Michael Thomas, Kareem Hunt, Keenan Allen. I was doing backflips getting Kareem Hunt at 11, even in a mock draft. Yeah. 53 catches for him. Now, I ended up in full disclosure. I drafted for Scott White because he was a little bit busy

With some baseball stuff Oh yeah Freaking out about the humidor So I was actually thrilled for him To get Michael Thomas And then

Yep Who he got in round two Right So again The final six picks of round one Were Beckham Kamara

Julio Jones Michael Thomas Kareem Hunt Keenan Allen And then Dalvin Cook. And I'll tell you why. Well, keep going, sorry. AJ Green to me and Melvin Gordon to Scott.

So I looked at it as I like Michael Thomas as the fourth best receiver this year. He was, I think, the third best receiver last year. And I saw, okay, Kareem Hunt's still available. Melvin Gordon's still available. Dalvin Cook's still available. LaShawn McCoy's still available. Melvin Gordon's still available. Dom McCook's still available. LaShawn McCoy's still available. So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to gamble that if I take the receiver here for Scott,

I can get one of those running backs around too. Yeah, and you did. You got Melvin Gordon, and Melvin Gordon going 15th overall is great. And I think it's interesting you look at the last three teams, picks 10, 11, and 12, all went running back wide receiver. And, Dave, Jamie wasn't on the show, but when I made that horribly convoluted point about getting two players that you love when you're picking late,

it doesn't matter what order you take them in, this is kind of what I meant. Here are the last three teams to pick, 10, 11, and 12, what they ended up with. Scott White, Jamie drafted the team, got Michael Thomas and Melvin Gordon. I got Kareem Hunt and A.J. Green. R.J. White got Keenan Allen and Dalvin Cook. We all have one running back. We all have one wide receiver. We all probably love our starts.

I think that's what you're going to see from most people in drafts, and it's not necessarily just from the 10, 11, and 12 spots. I think a lot of you're going to see from most people in drafts and it's not necessarily just from the 10, 11, and 12 spots. I think a lot of people are going to want to... I don't know how many people are going to be committed to taking two running backs or two wide receivers with their first two picks. Because of that uncertainty,

they'll middle it and say, alright, I'm going to take one of each. I agree. The good news is that if you're picking anywhere in round one, you're going to find somebody at the other position that you'll like when you're up in round two. If you extend it, though, to other players, to other owners in this league, the two guys that

drafted before that. So, Will Brinson and George Maselli. George went running back, running back with Alvin Kamara and Leonard Fournette. And Will went receiver to receiver with Julio Jones and Mike Evans. So, they took the opposite approach, just stretching it out a little bit further than your three guys. Sure, but they might have conviction on why they did that. For example, the one that took two wide receivers might have wanted to take a similar approach to what I did in our non-PPR draft.

Yeah, but Will, for example, could have easily taken Julio Jones and Leonard Fournette. George could have easily gone with Alvin Kamara and Devontae Adams if he wanted to. So they had the choice of taking still very good players at their respective positions. And so they clearly like those guys and like starting with those double players at that same spot. Okay, so I want to bring up those two teams actually. Brinson and Maselli, right? Let's compare the teams and see which we like better. Because they pick back-to-back. What were they?

7-8? Or 8-9? They were 8-9. And Will, like you said, went two receivers with his first two picks. Evans and Julio. Julio and Evans. George went with Kamara and then Fournette. Let's see which team we like better.

Because they both waited on quarterback. Will's team. Matthew Stafford. Jay Ajayi, Chris Thompson, Julio Jones, Mike Evans, Zach Ertz, and Julian Edelman. All right, Stafford, Ajayi, Chris Thompson. That's a lot of cats. Julio Jones, Evans, Zach Ertz, and Julian Edelman. You can take a look at the benches if you want. I think it's too confusing for the listeners.

I mean, the two guys I think that jump out because probably people are going to look at Chris Thompson and say, I don't know if I want him as a starter. He could have the starting running back for the Giants in Wayne Gallman, and he could have the starting running back for the Jets in Bilal Powell. He does have some decent bench options. It's a solid team. I like George better at quarterback, but it might be splitting hairs. Will's going to be better at tight end because he has Ertz.

But here's George's team with the two running backs with his first two picks. He has Garoppolo and Roethlisberger. He has Kamara, Fournette, Des Bryant, and Alshon Jeffrey, Evan Ingram, and then Cooper Cupp at flex. And just my initial reaction is I like Will's team a lot better. In this format? Yeah. Even though, you know, Kamara, Fournette, it's a strong start.

Garoppolo and Roethlisberger, Kamara, Fournette, Alshon, Jeffrey, Dez Bryant, Evan Ingram, Cooper Cup. I don't, you know, he could be weak at number two receiver with Bryant. He's got like a fine flex with Cooper Cup, but nothing great there. And then I think we all have some reservations about Evan Ingram. He probably took him at the right spot, but you don't know how Ingram's going to be with Beckham back. Yeah, no, it's not a

great team in this format, unless a lot of things happen, but there has to be a lot of things happening. Dez has to regain his form. Who knows if he's still on the Cowboys. Alshon's got to go from a 65 catch guy to at least an 80-catch guy. You're hoping Cooper Cupp remains as viable as he was a year ago. I think he will be, but it's hard to guarantee that. It's like his strengths, his running backs are strengths.

Who are we talking about, George? Leonard Fournette. Right, Fournette, right. So just based on this one example of Will versus George, two receivers looks a lot better than two running backs. In this format? In this format, yeah, PPR. If you were to say standard, I would say George has a better team.

I hate George's pick of Des Bryant. He took him at 41st overall. He took him ahead of Amari Cooper, Demarius Thomas, Josh Gordon, even Marvin Jones. That changes things. That changes things. And just some other receivers that were taken after. You might take Dez ahead of them. You might not.

But Golden Tate, Devin Funchess, Allen Robinson, Juju, and Julian Edelman. The only guy there is Funchess. So I don't think that there's – I think he took Dez too early, and I think that kind of sabotages his whole team. It's not that point. I think another thing is also, like, if you're not sold on Garoppolo, I'm assuming he... Well, I'm guessing he took Roethlisberger first. I don't know.

But he's got Roethlisberger and Garoppolo, and he's got Evan Ingram and Njoku. While Njoku has certainly a ton of upside, and obviously if you go Roethlisberger over Garoppolo, wherever he prioritizes it, I don't know if that's the best strategy either. I don't want to double up on those two spots.

I'd rather speculate, and in his case, just based on the strength of his running backs, on another receiver somewhere along the lines. I don't mind it because he's strong at running back. But he doesn't have a lot of depth there. That makes sense. He's got Burkhead and P. Ryan. That's it. Right.

But at least he's got two young, high-potential running backs on his squad already. And he can always cut one of those guys if he had to, to find another running back once the season starts. All right. So I think, actually, before you pointed out who he took Dez Bryant over, it was an obvious call that I liked Will's approach better, but if you do replace Des with Amari Cooper or something and it looks a lot better, then maybe you can make either strategy work, which I'm sure you can. All right, back to the draft results.

So round two was Dalvin Cook, A.J. Green, Melvin Gordon, Mike Evans. Evans or Devante Adams, guys, who do you like? Adams. Okay. Leonard Fournette, middle of round two, and that compared to the standard draft, Fournette went in the middle of round one. Rob Gronkowski,

Mark Ingram, Devante Freeman, Devante Adams, Devante Parker, Devante Freeman, Devante Adams, Christian McCaffrey, T.Y. Hilton, and Tyreek Hill. Do you like T.Y. Hilton going in round two? If you tell me Andrew Luck is healthy, yes. If he's not, is he in the same limbo status right now?

No. But I have him ranked as a number one receiver. I like Tyreek Hill better, but he's right there, right after him. I mean, T.Y. Hilton got 80 catches with the poor quarterback play that he had. He's going to end up back to being a 90-catch guy with Andrew Luck. Okay, and I'll stop going through the rounds. You want to just talk about your teams. What I would say is we talked about this in the car on the way back from delicious lunch.

It might be the deepest we've ever seen the quarterback position. And in PPR leagues, it's gotta be like unbelievable fall out of your chair value. Or otherwise you're waiting. I think that that's the perfect way to put it, Adam. Yes. Because the first quarterback was taken 37th overall.

So that's round four. I think that's the absolute earliest. Anybody should consider taking a quarterback this year because there are so many guys that should be able to get you 20-plus most weeks. Now you can make the case that, well, I want a guy that's going to get me 25 or 30-plus most weeks. I still think that there are several of those quarterbacks that you can find after round four. And the longer you wait and the value is just so obvious in front of your face, more so this year than in previous years, that's when you pull the trigger.

And if you never have that opportunity and you're in round 10 and you still haven't taken a quarterback, it's okay. Because when you get to round 10, there's still going to be a lot of quarterbacks anyway that you're going to be fired up. A lot. You're going to be fired up drafting him. No. He didn't get drafted.

Matt Ryan didn't get drafted. Matt Ryan didn't get drafted. No. I mean, yeah. There's just so many this year. And that's the big difference for me with standard and PPR is it doesn't make sense in PPR. They're much less valuable.

I wonder if there's a case to be made for taking two quarterbacks this year, regardless of format, provided that you've got enough bench space. Just because it's going to be incredible values, you're going to be in round 10 and you're going to see the quarterbacks that are left, whether you took one early or not. You're going to say,

how do I let these guys get past me? I like the Garoppolo-Rothlisberger combo. I do too. But also, how about you take two quarterbacks, you're keeping one off waivers, that guy that could beat you. The problem is that people will get tired of carrying two. They'll have their one stud. They'll roll with them. Something will happen to their team.

A player will get hurt or someone hot will be on the waiver wire. And you'll look at your bench and you'll say, I don't want to cut this handcuff running back. I don't want to cut this receiver who's good. What's the most likely player you're going to cut then? It's going to be a quarterback. So that's the double-edged sword with taking two at that position. But I did it in this draft too.

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Just eat it already. Let's go. I did one. Jamie, want to be a man about this? Oh, I don't care about those. Yeah, so come on. Let's spin for Jamie. Now, we didn't even need to take one. Jamie has a really good team. Jamie, you have like an all-star team. How did you do this?

Hold on, wait. I want you to tell us as you eat a juicy bear, juicy bear, juicy pear or booger. It'll be like that one, like the freckled green one. Jamie has arguably, like, maybe the top quarterback, probably not, but maybe the top quarterback, maybe the top tight end, maybe the top running back. Okay, Russell Wilson, David Johnson and Carlos Hyde. It's either a juicy pear or a booger.

What'd you get? You're trying to figure it out? It's got to be a pear. Yeah, you're not. I'll do it again. These things don't bother me, though. You want another one? Yeah.

You don't want to mix flavors. Don't you want to savor the pear a little bit? Okay. It is going to be the... the one you turned into yourself. No, caramel corn or moldy cheese. I don't know if there's a wrong way to go with that. It's that one right there. All right, here's Jamie's team.

Russell, Wilson. Moldy cheese. Is it moldy? Is it bad? No. All right. All right, give me that. Give me that.

No, he's picking one at random. Give me that thing. Okay, I knew this would work. No, you don't have to spit. Just give it to me. No, I do have to spit. We're just going to put it over here. No, I thought you were going to take one.

Fool. All right, Wilson, David Johnson, and Carlos Hyde. What round did you get Carlos Hyde in? Fifth. Wilson, David Johnson, Carlos Hyde, Devontae Adams, Josh Gordon. So those are four of your first five picks. And Travis Kelsey. you get carlos hyden fifth wilson david johnson carlos hyde devante adams josh gordon so those are your first oh those are four of your first five picks and travis kelsey so your first five picks were david johnson devante adams kelsey jordan hyde gordon that's a great i think i think gordon fell right in your lap so you had that happen twice adams and gordon so with um your

quarterback discussion i didn't say anything because i I was looking at it with Russell Wilson, and I didn't like anybody else there. So I don't know if the value was so good. Late round six. I mean, but he was the third quarterback still off the board. So I wasn't planning on a quarterback that early, per se. I just didn't like anything else. Okay, that's a good point.

The picks after that were Hogan, Crowder, Chris Carson to Dave, of course. Hunter Henry, Deshaun Watson, Drew Brees. Jamie had already drafted a tight end, so he wasn't interested in Henry or Graham. You're right. You're right. That's another point in the draft where you take a quarterback. You love the value or you just don't love anyone else. So take a great player.

I'm just looking at it as – like I really don't go into drafts saying I got to fill out my starting lineup first before I start to take reserves. But that's what ended up happening because all I was left with was a flex spot. And so it just was he's going to play for me every week, and he has a chance to be amazing. Okay. Dave, I'm sorry. This has a chance to be amazing. Okay. Dave, I'm sorry. This has just gone on. I did not produce a good show today. So we can get to the intriguing players.

Give me your thoughts on your team, which had the first overall pick. I enjoyed this one. I think I got a good deal by getting Tyreek Hill and LaShawn McCoy with my back-to-back picks in rounds two and three. Rounds four and five were Golden Tate and Devin Funchess. I wasn't as excited about those guys as I was hoping to be. Who was still available? Because I think that's very early on Funchess in this format.

I don't mind Funchess as of now. There could obviously be changes, but I think he's still going to end up being the number one wide receiver. Yeah, but he's at best their third line, their third target. Allen Robinson. He could be their second. Juju, Edelman. Over who?

Over Olsen. Oh, no. Well, Olsen's getting up there. I mean, I drafted Olsen, but he's not without risk. So, yeah, the wide receivers after Funchess were, like I said, Allen Robinson, Juju Smith-Schuster, Julian Edelman, and Jordy Nelson. Yeah, I probably would have gone running back over Funchess there with the guys that were still there. Who was left?

Lamar Miller. Deion Lewis, Carlos Hyde, Jamal Williams. Was that Collins? No, Collins was gone. Lamar Miller, 50th overall. You don't like that? He's going to be very polarizing because of how he played with Deshaun Watson. Which wasn't that good.

I did think about Evan Ingram, but I think first pick around five. It wasn't that good. He had one good game. It was great. One good, yeah. So we're saying Lamar Miller wasn't that good with Watson, right? No, he was okay. Yeah, he was okay.

That's the thing. I was like, I bet he had really good numbers with Watson. No, he didn't. He was Lamar Miller. He was. It didn't matter. Joe Philbin was right about him. Maybe.

Okay, so after the guys that I took, Chris Carson, I thought, fell to me in round six. I was happy with that. Last pick of round six. Hunter Henry was the first pick in round seven. Needed a tight end. He was the best one there. I just didn't want to mess around. I'm not going to mess around with tight end this year.

I think I'm going to try and get one at a fair value. I had the same thing happen last year, and I was happy with how that wound up. Carson Wentz, 96th overall. Last pick of round eight. Sorry, I think that that was irresistible. Took him, took Crabtree at 97th overall. Could be. We'll see how it ends up, but at 97 overall, I don't think there's necessarily anything as a terrible pick. Kenneth Dixon was the best available running back at 120th overall. That's the end of round 10. Marquise Lee in round 11.

George Kittle went with two tight ends. Got him at the end of round 10. Marquise Lee in round 11. George Kittle went with two tight ends. Got him at the end of round 12. Chargers DST in round 13. They're my number two DST as of right now. And I did that figuring that I could get a second quarterback at a phenomenal value with the last pick in round 14. I did that with Jameis Winston. Yeah. And he's also been a guy I've taken on two of my teams so far as my backup quarterback.

Normally I don't like to have a backup quarterback, but you've got to get one if you draft Carson Wentz. I got a kicker with my last pick. I took Greg Zerline in the third to last round, just like we talked about on Monday. Were you happy? Yeah, I was happy. Do you think it made your team? I think I have the best kicker and the best DST. I took the Jaguars and I took Legatron. It doesn't mean you have the best team. It doesn't mean I have the best team, think I have the best kicker and the best DST. I took the Jaguars and I took Legatron.

It doesn't mean you have the best team. It doesn't mean I have the best team, but I have the best kicker. I'm not sure you would have taken the Broncos and Justin Tucker. Yeah. I feel pretty confident about the Jaguars, though. The point is, there's nobody going around them that's so good, except for quarterback. Oh, no. I don't think there's a problem with it, but just be careful.

Alright, offseason intrigue. Who's the most interesting player for you on each AFC South team? Let's start with the Houston Texans. Most interesting player. The quarterback. Tom Savage. You have him ranked where, Deshaun Watson?

Fifth. Fourth or fifth. I am fifth. Tom Savage You have him ranked where? Deshaun Watson Fifth Fourth Yeah Fourth or fifth I am fifth And in these drafts He's going around then I took him as the fifth one In the standard draft

Right Second to last pick of round six Yeah about eight picks Before Drew Brees Yeah he's pretty interesting Are you concerned about his Athletic ability coming back from the knee injury? No. Okay.

It's not the same injury anymore. Are you concerned that he's not as good as Mitchell Trubisky? Well, it depends on who you ask. Who you ask, pro football focus. That was interesting. They graded Trubisky better than Watson. They do a great job, but somebody's got to flag that down. I mean, somebody's going to be like, hey, guys, can we have a five-hour meeting about this?

Or they explain it. They did sort of explain it. They said that Deshaun Watson would have rated much higher if you took away his game against Jacksonville when he came in as a replacement. It wasn't that bad. This is the metrics versus watching football. Yeah, give me a break. Sometimes you just got to watch the game. Watson played, he started six games,

and he scored 40 or more points in three of them. Unbelievable. I don't know what else to say. Yeah, you just got to be concerned about it. You know, is the sample size the same thing with Garoppolo? Is it enough to say that these guys are great? And I think most people that saw them play will say, yes, these guys are great. Okay.

Dave, do you have someone else, or are we good? Well, you can talk about the running backs there and whether or not Deontay Foreman can come back and be healthy and make a difference in that run game. We already mentioned that Lamar Miller isn't that exciting of a fantasy option. I believe you called him polarizing. I think that you just look at Foreman and what he's capable of doing is just to lead back for that team. And if he's ready to go, I wouldn't be surprised if he led them in carries this year,

led them in rushing touchdowns this year, and even mixed in a couple of catches. I'd be shocked if they didn't add somebody, just because you don't know what Foreman's going to be. And that would kind of ruin it for all of them. All right, I'm going to give you a multiple-choice question. How many carries of 20-plus yards did Lamar Miller have in 2017? A, 1. B, 4.

C, 8. What's D? There is none. B. 4. I'll say. Is that what it is? No, it's C, eight. What's D? There is none. B. Four. I'll say, is that what it is? No, it's Jamie's guess. I was going to guess three, so I'll say one.

He gave you the answers, and three's no. What did he say? If he wouldn't have given multiple choice, I'll say D, three. No, I'll say one. One is correct. He had one carry of 20 yards. That's pretty bad. All right, going to the...

To be fair, the offensive line had a lot of issues there. Oh, boy, I'm holding a sneeze. That was close. All right, to be fair, let's go to Tennessee. Who's the most interesting player for you on Tennessee? Dave. I think Derrick Henry is kind of obvious at this point, so I'm not going to say that he's the most interesting.

I think Corey Davis is the most interesting player. I'd love to see him make a jump in his second season. I'm encouraged by what I've heard about Matt LeFleur, the offensive coordinator there, who's going to probably put in an offense that will work more as a West Coast type of a fit. And they'll have creative ways to have Marcus Mario to throw to Corey Davis. Okay, Corey Davis for you. I see potential in him.

Yeah. I think Delaney Walker's interesting. All he does is finishes a starting tight end every year. He's going to be 34 years old. He's Larry Fitzgerald. What if I told you that he wasn't going to be on the Titans? Yeah, what do you think? Will he be on the Titans? I think if he doesn't restructure his contract, I think they can move on.

Well, that would help Corey Davis, wouldn't it? And they have Johnnie Smith, who they spent a big draft pick on last year. Jamie, let's go to Jacksonville. Who's the most interesting player for you on Jacksonville? Their whole receiving core? No. I mean, there's some that think there's – that Alan Robinson's coming back for sure. I've heard they're going to franchise tag him.

Probably could. So you have Robinson and Marquise Lee as free agents. Alan Hearn's in one of the worst contracts in recent memory at that position. They'll say bye-bye to him. And a couple of young receivers that showed some flashes of potential last year. So what they should do is try and keep Robinson, let Marquise Lee walk, cut Alan Hearns, and go with a three-receiver, at least their top three receivers,

Robinson, Westbrook, and Keelan Cole. So we'll see how it all plays out. Okay. But obviously it all plays out. Okay. But obviously it all depends on who the quarterback is. We'll just say Alan Robinson is the most interesting, right? He went in the middle of round five in the PPR draft, middle of round five. And in the standard scoring draft, Alan Robinson went in the beginning of round five. Yeah, I took him.

To Jamie, yeah. Before Marvin Jones, before Larry Fitzgerald in Standard. I think there's much more upside if he's right. PPR, he went after Tate and Funchess. He went before Juju Smith-Schuster. Alright, let's go. Their quarterback is also going to be interesting.

I don't think anybody's going to draft him. I think he was the number 13 quarterback in fantasy. No one's going to draft Blake Bortles, but will it be Blake Bortles? It probably will, given their cap situation and what they owe him. Well, it's a wrist injury that he's probably not going to be able to throw, so they're going to have to fight him. I mean, if his wrist wasn't hurt,

they'd pummel him onto the waiver wire and find somebody else. By the way, I have to correct something from earlier. You're going to have it being boozled? It was related to what I was going to say about Leonard Fournette. I think he's interesting because you see the difference in his value in standard and PPR. About a round difference in the two drafts that we just did. Can he catch more passes? I think he can.

Yes. I was going to use Ezekiel Elliott as an example, but I actually got the stat wrong. I was looking at Zeke's targets, not his catches. He only had 26 catches in 10 games. So that's what, like 40 catches for the year, which isn't bad. So, yeah, Fournette had what? Do we know? He was around 30.

Yeah, he was on. Yeah, Fournette had 36 catches in 13 games. So, yeah, maybe he can get 45, 50. That would be great. Maybe he shouldn't be around later in PPR. Okay, and then finally the Colts. We'll stop with this, and we'll do some emails, and we'll save the NFC South for our next show.

Who's the most interesting player, intriguing offseason player for the Colts, Dave? I'm going to take away Andrew Luck. I'm going to say T.Y. Hilton. Because I'm curious what they do elsewhere on offense. I would not have liked T.Y. Hilton if Josh McDaniels had landed there. Because I think McDaniels would have really tried to work on that inside-out type of offense that he's come to use with New England. But with Frank Reich there, I think that they can get very creative with T.Y. Hilton.

I just want to know who he's got to compete with New England. But with Frank Reich there, I think that they can get very creative with T.Y. Hilton. I just want to know who he's got to compete with for targets. Jamie? Colt? Can I give – Jack Doyle. Like I know how much I'm going to like T.Y. Hilton if luck is healthy. I know that any running back is going to – unless they take one in the early rounds, is going to be kind of a fun upside gamble. I don't know how I feel about Jack Doyle. I don't know how I would have felt about Jack Doyle if luck had been healthy going into 2017.

I love Doyle. I know, and there's plenty of reason, but they've always used two tight ends. Will they add another? They didn't really last year. Swope was either hurt or bad. But there's going to be a philosophical change now. I don't know if these tight ends are going to be in the cards. They're going to have to – they'll bring in somebody else, but Doyle's going to be a star.

Well, that's a thing. That's a big word to use, and I don't necessarily disagree. He was top nine this year. He was top five in PPR. I had him as seventh, but that could be wrong. I mean, maybe I'm off. He had the second most catches. Yeah, he was great.

And I think, you know, just given what the quarterback track record is there with the tight end position over different coordinators, I don't think that really matters. Was he a top 10 tight end because they had no one else to throw to other than Hilton and the quarterback was risk averse?

See, that's the thing, right? They don't have anybody else now outside of Hilton, and the quarterback is I don't think they go into the season that way. Right. So I was looking at that. He only had one fewer target than T.Y. Hilton, Jack Doyle. There's no way Doyle's only going to have one fewer target than Hilton. But at the same time, he only had 108 targets. That's not a lot.

Andrew Luck's best seasons have featured the tight ends both times. But you said plural. Yeah. Right. That you said plural. Yeah. Right. That's the thing. If he's the only guy, then it sets up. I don't think they're. Look, are they getting Jimmy Graham?

I doubt it. Are they going to draft somebody prominently? Maybe. But they have so many other holes. Like that's a spot for them where they can get by with a second guy that's not necessarily a featured option. And you go back to what you were saying, Adam, about using multiple guys. Dwayne Allen was touchdown dependent. He wasn't a featured part of the team.

He was a touchdown guy. Kobe Fleener was the guy when those two guys were there. So I think Doyle is... Is he of the ilk of the upside of somebody like an Evan Ingram? No. Is he a star like Rob Gronkowski? No. He's in that whatever tier you want to call it, second or third tier,

but he's clearly a top ten fantasy tight end going into the season. It's really more about opportunity. And the upside with Andrew Luck being healthy is off the charts. All right, this is an email from Chris in Rocket City. Dear John, Peyton, Jake, and Trevor. Broncos quarterbacks. With Denver potentially looking to free agency for their quarterback, could you break down how you think the likely available quarterback options

would affect the fantasy value of their skill players. We kind of did this with the Browns last episode. So if they get Cousins. That would be awesome. Demarius Thomas is what? I said if the Browns get Cousins, Josh Gordon is a top blank. You said 10 or 12, 12? Yeah.

What about Demarius? Top 15. Because he's still got to share with other players, whereas I think Josh Gordon would hog it a little bit. Oh, Gordon's going to share with other players too. They're not getting rid of Corey Coleman. They're still going to use him. But Corey Coleman's not getting the targets that Emmanuel Sanders would get.

He is. All right, so in an unrealistic scenario, we clone Kirk Cousins. We put him on both Cleveland and Denver. Which wide receiver gets more targets? Which wide receiver do you rank higher in fantasy, Demarius or Gordon? Gordon. Gordon. Both targets and ranking?

Standard Gordon PPR Demarius. I'll go Gordon in both. Okay. Legend of Josh Gordon. Provided he doesn't knucklehead it during the offseason. And, like, I'm a guy who never takes Emmanuel Sanders, but I would start taking Emmanuel Sanders. Especially since he'd be a good value.

Yeah. I don't think people are going to climb into round five and get him. Well, let's see where he went. He went at the end of round nine. Yeah. Freaking Jamie was drafting for Scott White, which pissed me off. It was one pick right before I was going to take Emmanuel Sanders.

So if Cousins goes there, is he a round seven pick? Easy. Maybe a round six? Easy. Right. Like Funchess or Sanders? People will take Sanders. Maybe.

Yeah. Not this people. Okay. Last email from Dusty. Where's Dusty from? Dusty is from Atlanta, Georgia. Hey, Damar, Jonas, Serge, and Kyle. Jamie?

Those sound like basketball players. Damar, Jonas, Serge, and Kyle. Jamie, those sound like basketball players. DeMar, Jonas, Serge, and Kyle. What team is Serge Ibaka on? Ibaka's on the Raptors. Oh. DeMar DeRozan, Valanchunas, Kyle Lowry. Yeah. Good for me.

Keep three. Two-round penalty each year. Can only keep players for three years total. All the players I could keep for three years except Gordon and Evan, so I can keep for two more years. And he has a 12th pick. And the first three rounds don't snake. Okay.

So pick three. Julio in the first. Gordon in the first. Melvin. Evans in the seventh. Wow. Russell Wilson in the eighth. Ertz in the 13th.

And Drake in the 13th. Well, you've got to go late here, right? God, can you pass up Gordon or Julio in the first? You've got Evans in the seventh, Wilson in the eighth, Ertz in the 13th, yes. Drake in the 13th. Pick three. Right now it would be Evans, Ertz, and Drake, but there are some people that speculate that if C.J. Anderson is let go,

that Adam Gase would try to bring him to Miami. He tried before, right? Evans, Ertz, and Drake. I think clearly not Russell Wilson and probably not Julio Jones. Is Melvin Gordon so good that you'd keep him in the first round over Drake in the 13th? No. Wouldn't you be tempted to do it, though, when there's other people in your league who are going to keep three players? And that drains the top talent in the draft portion of your league.

And for Dusty, he's got the 12th pick, and it's not a snake draft for the first three rounds. So I might take Melvin Gordon. Otherwise, you could be – Yeah, but you're also throwing back somebody that helps you without picking back-to-back in the early parts of the draft. But you have no chance of getting Melvin Gordon. Well, you just said

you're taking the Jaguars defense at the end because there's nobody available that late. And now he has Kenyon Drake that late. Kenyon Drake's a lot worse on draft day than Gordon. Not with the 12-round difference. I know, but if you walk out, all right. I'm cool with that.

Let's just say he ends up. You do get Evans in round seven. Okay, so here's the thing. Let's say he gets Saquon Barkley at 12 as the Colts starting running back. And Kenyon Drake in the 13th round as opposed to Melvin Gordon and whoever he's thrown a dart at at the end of the draft. I hope he can get him. Yeah. I mean, there are going to be 36 players kept, and he's got the 12th pick. So to Melvin Gordon and whoever he's thrown a dart at at the end of the I hope you can get him. Yeah. I mean, they're going to be 36

players kept and he's got 12 picks. So it's Chubb. So it's, you know, Michelle, whatever the case may be. Yeah. Well, I know I put on weight, Jamie. You don't have to call me Chubb. That's it. You're going to put on a little bit more weight. No. Are you really going to go without one? All right. Fine. All right. Can I spin

or are you just going to cherry pick your flavor? I'm going to cherry pick it. You took the easy one. You took the blue. It's either a berry blue or toothpaste. No. Chew it and swallow it. Be a big boy.

This is the one you tried to spit out before. This is like the kiddie bean booze. My gosh. Well, I had to brush my teeth. You could have had Tutti Frutti or Stinky Socks. How do they get Stinky Socks in the flavor? I don't know, Dave. Why don't you find out? All right.

Pass it over. I'll tell you. There you go. We're at a minute and five here. Minute and five. It feels like it's been an hour. No, no, no, no, no. Why not?

I'm done. Damn it. I got Tutti Frutti. Try again. It's delicious. This really is a great jelly bean. Goodbye'm done. Damn it. I got tutti frutti. Try again. It's delicious. This really is a great jelly bean. Goodbye, everyone. Bye.