Fantasy Football Today - 03/04: Jamey's Combine Takeaways; Juicy NFL Rumors! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 4, 2019

Jamey and Heath return to the Podcast as we review the biggest takeaways from the NFL Combine. Is Todd Gurley still a first round pick after we've learned more about his knee (2:55)? What did Pete Carroll say about his RBs (7:35)? We discuss what 2019 will look like for Jerick McKinnon and Dante Pettis (13:15), plus a note on Kerryon Johnson's workload (19:15) ... Jamey answers questions about the best food, best GM to talk to and more from Indianapolis (22:40) and we also review some NFL news (26:00) including notes on Nick Foles, Antonio Brown, Kyler Murray, Carson Wentz and Quincy Enunwa. Did you know Wentz was by some measures better in 2018 than he was in 2017? Did you know that ARI might draft Murray #1 overall? ... Reacting to Jason La Canfora's notes and rumors from around the NFL (36:50). Odell Beckham Jr. to OAK??? ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Monday, March 4th. Welcome, everybody. This is Fantasy Football Today.

We got a lot to get to. Because Jamie's back. What's up, Jamie? How you doing? How was Indianapolis? It was awesome. It was very cool to be at the Combine for the first time and just to see it all unfold. I will say that I never, ever, ever in my life want to hear a bench press going on ever again. Why?

Because it's right behind us when we were doing our show and so you hear the the hype guy i guess essentially or the announcer trying to get the crowd going they let fans come in to watch and so you you get a lot of screaming and yelling and it was literally like all right we're going live at four o'clock 3 45 the bench press for offensive linemen will start in 15 minutes. Oh, God. Well, I can make you a promise, Jamie. You come to my house, you will never have to hear anybody bench press.

I may be coming to your house in a couple weeks. Oh, fun. All right. And Heath is here as well. Hey, Heath. I'm never coming to your house. First off, I'm not going to get invited. And second off, I'm not going.

I just invited myself. What would you rather do? It kind of feels creepy. Yeah. Probably with some weird stuff there. No. I'll give you two options. You can come to my house and we'll have dinner or go to the NFL Combine.

Oh, Combine. Really? Yeah. We had an interesting conversation with the alien known as Pete Prisco. Drink? Drink. He will never go to anybody's house to have dinner. What a stupid thing.

That's why he's an alien because he's the strangest human being I've ever encountered. All right. So listen, I was going to read this email later, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. I'm just going to read it now. It's from Nick. Why do you say drink after Pete Prisco's name? It's making me crazy trying to figure it out, LOL. I don't think we should explain it we should because jamie says pete priscoe so much that i said it was a drinking game so you have to drink every time i always have my water here and i

always drink every time and i told i told pete that you literally drink every time which is very funny um i also tweeted something on the i'm like i'm sitting next to him on the plane such a doozy of a flight and and I got like drink, drink, drink, drink, drink replies. People do that on flights. All right. So got some combine notes, mostly combine notes. Huge news with Arizona looks trending in the Kyler Murray direction, maybe trading Josh Rosen. Nick Foles looks like he'll be on the Jaguars,

according to reports. Obviously, an Antonio Brown note. Obviously, a Le'Veon Bell note. A Carson Wentz note. Alex Collins getting away. We'll get to that. But I asked Jamie what his major takeaways were from the combine.

And, okay, let's start with Todd Gurley. All right, all right. He's not number one anymore. Yeah. He may not be a first round pick so what's the latest what's the deal well our john breach did a fantastic job he was i think the first one to really get into this about what the knee situation is um he uh he spoke to a member of the rams organization and then did a great job sort of uh hashing this out and reporting on this, talking to Sean McVay privately.

And also, you know, kind of just reading between the lines of what McVay and Les Snead, the general manager, said. I encourage you to read the story on CBSSports.com. There was a report after that. The report that John has is that he may not need surgery on his knee but he may need stem cell treatment on his knee and then if you listen to what mcveigh and less need said that they're kind of open to sharing touches for him and i think you know sneed almost said running back by committee uh which is frightening given what early's workload has been the last couple of years but if the knee knee is a problem, it could be an issue.

And McVay sort of talked about, you know, now that they've been to the playoffs the last two years, obviously the Super Bowl this past year, making sure that they're at 100% once they get to the end of the season. So it could be maybe, you know, an early season situation where he's sharing touches and works his way back to being the guy that we know. And this is clearly all speculation. But it does not sound good if they're going to sign somebody of significance, keep CJ Anderson, maybe draft somebody. The NFL draft with running backs

is not necessarily top heavy with a star like a Saquon Barkley or a Zeke or a Leonard Fournette, those type of guys that weren't in the top five. But there is a deep group here that could go day two, day three. In some cases, day four, that could still make an impact. Excuse me, day two or day three. There's no more day four. Still make an impact on a roster. So I'm a little nervous about Gurley. And then the second report that came out that he may have arthritis in his knee.

So it could be a situation that the knee is getting worse slowly, but it's definitely an issue. Okay. Well, is he a first-round pick? You're drafting today. What do you think? I think the only people drafting today are probably best ball drafts, and I can understand if you wanted to do it.

I was just looking at my running back rankings. I don't think I can rank him as a first-round pick today. I've got him just – I think that Le'Veon Bell range in the second round is fine because there's some uncertainty about both those guys in terms of where they're going to be and what their role is going to be next year. I've got him at number 11 at running back. Okay, so he was the number one running back in non-PPR and number three in PPR last year.

And that was with the fourth most carries in the NFL, 256. Zeke had 304. Barkley, 261. Johnson, David Johnson, 258. Todd Gurley, 256. And Adrian Peterson. And that was with missing two games. That was with missing two games.

The year before, Todd Gurley had a similar amount of carries. He had 279 with one more game. He's never had more than 279. So he's a big touch guy. He's not at Zeke level. But he scores so many touchdowns. If he gets 220

carries and 50 catches, do you think he performs as a first round pick yes i would say i would say yes but heath i would probably say no okay because christian mccaffrey had well he's he had so many catches how about james connor there's not a lot of guys that score at his level right that's the thing j James Conner had 215 carries and 55 catches. And even with the missed time, I do believe he performed like a first-round pick. I think he was eighth.

Eighth? Yeah. Yep. One, two, three, four. I got him seventh. So, yeah. All right, yeah. That's the thing.

He's going to be up 4.8-ish yards per carry probably. He's going to score touchdowns.8-ish yards per carry probably. He's going to score touchdowns. And Whitworth coming back certainly helps. And if they're able to keep Saffold or some semblance of keeping his offensive line at the level that it's at, the question becomes is you're basically buying what could be a time bomb. Right. Yeah, it's not just what 220 and 50 is. It's 220 and 50 with the risk that he's going to miss.

Yeah, I think to Adam's point, if you know you're getting 270 in terms of his touches, you'll buy that. Yeah, touches. But are you getting the 270? That's the question. Sure. All right, so what'd you find out?

Next topic, Seattle, the Seahawks, both their backfield and the health of Doug Baldwin. So I said this on one of our shows in Indianapolis, whether it was on CBS Sports HQ or on Will Brinson's Pick 6 podcast, that if you were to say the several certainties coming out of the NFL combine, it would have been, what's Kyler Murray's height? Is St. Elmo's really a great restaurant? And is the food fantastic?

And Pete Carroll will say that there is competition at positions. So those would have been the three things that I would have told you going into Indianapolis. And so what did Pete Carroll say about his running backs? We have a one-two punch. I don't know who the one is, and I don't know who the two is. So he talked glowingly about both guys. It seems as if they're going to give Chris Carson the first opportunity, but that might just be out of respect for what he did a season ago.

I think not knowing where the free agents go, not knowing the draft situation, it could be the most frustrating backfield in March to break down, given what the potential could be for those guys. Because we saw what it could be last year, how Carson performed. Heath, who are you going to rank ahead as of right now? As of right now, it's Carson.

I do think... I mean, Penny still has something to prove. He had some flashes last year where he showed, and I have no doubt that he has more upside than Carson does, but he's still got to prove that he can run between the tackles like Carson does 15 times a game. And so I think there's a chance that he does that. And if he gets that 60% of the role instead of 40%,

then I'll rank him higher than I have Carson ranked right now. But as of right now, I think it's Carson. I would agree. I think it's just a I would agree. I think it's just a matter of where you feel comfortable taking Carson. And then at what point do you have to take Penny to maybe lock up that backfield? Or do you just want to take Penny and see what happens? Right. You know, that's the game you play with the Seahawks backfield, because you could spend an early pick on Carson. He could still prove that he's the better of the two.

And Penny doesn't know what he's doing because I think Penny, a lot of the things they did last year, which is based on pure athleticism. I don't know if he's good at pass blocking. I don't know if he's a capable receiver out of the back, but I think he can be. I mean,

I'm sure Seattle thinks he can be based on what they invested in him last year. It just makes you wonder why they invested in him last year, the first round. So, um, uh, I. I think you should still plan on Carson

first. It's just a matter of how high you want to spend that capital, given that he could end up losing the job at some point. Would you take Carson or Devante Freeman? Carson for now. I might go Freeman for now if it's just Freeman and Ido Smith.

If they add somebody else, they'll change it. Carson or Phillip Lindsey? Lindsey. Lindsey. Okay. And what's going on with Doug Baldwin? Obviously hampered with the injuries last year. Very disappointing, but consistent top 12 wide receiver before last season.

So two surgeries since the offseason, one on his shoulder, one on his knee. The knee was the big issue last year, as you recall. He said he was never going to be 100%. I want to find the quote here from Mr. Optimism. So he said – sorry, I'm just going through all the, yeah, no, this is great.

All the running back stuff. He's making progress, working hard on it. Carol said about Baldwin. He's working at the facility regularly. His spirits are good about it. He's got some work to do. He's got a shoulder and anything that he's working on.

He's got some, he's got stuff fixed up. Um, asked about if he is still going to be a big part of the team next year. I hope so. Yeah, I'm counting on it. He had a really frustrating year. We went through it side by side.

It was so difficult to watch him have to go through it. He was such a gallant warrior about fighting through the stuff. Everything he had, he beat the timelines by halves. It was tough. He couldn't practice the way we like him to. And the way he wants to. It was frustrating for him just the whole thing was. The fact that he finished up and made some big plays for us

and did some stuff at the end of the season was really rewarding, but not enough for his expectations and all that. So it was a hard year for him. I think he's going to be one of the best bounce-back candidates next year if they don't add something significant. Because I believe he's 31. Yeah, 31 in September. If he's 85%, 90% of what he usually is, he's going to fall, what would you say,

six rounds? Oh, yeah. That range? I think he may go behind Lockhart. Right. 85, 90% of what he usually is, he's going to fall, what would you say, sixth round? Oh, yeah. That range? I think he may go behind Lockett. Right. So there's too much to like. Even in an offense that doesn't throw the ball a lot, even though he's trending in the wrong direction,

if you get him and he's still, quote, unquote, number one guy there, because I think he'll still lead them in targets, even though Lockett may score more, you're going to be happy about the end result if he's right and what Doug Baldwin typically brings. Any thoughts? Would you take Lockett or Baldwin, Heath? It's probably going to come down to format for me.

I think in non-PPR, I'd rather have Lockett, and PPR, I'd rather have Baldwin. I love Doug Baldwin, and he works harder than anybody else. So if anybody's going to come back, I would expect it's going to be him. But also, the wrong side of 30, and recovering from two different surgeries, and on a team that's going to throw it 425 times, it's a tough path. They ran the ball so well last year. They had three running backs at 4.6 to 4.9 yards per carry.

That's really good. They led the NFL in rushing yards, fifth in yards per carry. Russell Wilson played a role in that. 67 carries, 376 yards, 5.6 yards per carry. But that was their MO for sure. Now let's talk about Jarek McKinnon, because another team that ran the ball pretty well, the San Francisco 49ers, Matt Breida averaged 5.3 yards per carry.

Jeff Wilson wasn't bad. Raheem Mostert, only 34 carries, but 7.7 yards per carry. Seems like they were better than certainly I expected without Jarek McKinnon. And also Dante Pettis, your two-wide receiver, who I am over the moon about. Well, what can you tell us, Jamie, about the 49ers? Well, the fact that they're already talking about McKinnon as the starter now, I think is encouraging if you still have shares of Jack McKinnon in dynasty leagues, you know, you got to be encouraged by that because,

you know, there was some thought about, okay, would he be the full-time guy last year? And, you know, I think they know what Matt Breida is, you know, based on health, he probably can't be a full-time guy. I think they seem to like those two guys, but that'll probably be what they do with their backfield. I still think if he's 100%, remember he had the injury prior to the season. It was the last day of practice for the 49ers before the season started after the preseason. I think he's somebody you draft as a, depending on how you build your team, low-end number two, flex type of running back, preferably a number three guy. But you said it, Adam. They ran the ball really well.

It was the reason why I liked him last year. Kyle Shanahan produces great numbers from that spot, whether it was Mostert, Jeff Wilson, a couple times Alfred Morris, and obviously Matt Breida. They'll use multiple guys, but I think McKinnon will lead that backfield. So I'm excited about him coming back and the words that they're saying, at least in March right now. Heath, are you thinking Jarek McKinnon or Chris Carson right now? Again, probably format. I'd take Carson and non-PPR. I think you take McKinnon and PPR.

McKinnon, I would say, has more upside. I do think these two situations will be similar in that there's going to be a two-headed monster one way or the other. I do think these two situations will be similar in that there's going to be a two-headed monster one way or the other. I don't see anybody getting I don't see McKinnon getting near as many touches as maybe Carson did last year, but he should be in that 250 range, I would expect, if he stays

healthy and plays 16 games. And a lot of those touches are going to be catching the ball out of the backfield, which are generally more valuable in fantasy. Does McKinnon have first-round upside? I think that's a reach, but top 36 upside? Yeah. Well, I mean, if you're telling me that he's the starter for the 49ers,

then I would consider him with a top 36 pick. I would say the way I view him is kind of like what Marlon Mack did last year. That would be a great season for me. Obviously staying healthy. Yeah, well, I would say that Mack certainly just... If Mack played as well as he did when healthy for a full season, it's probably a second-round pick. Yeah, I think that's the ceiling for McKckinnon i think those guys are somewhat similar you know they're going to be

in offenses that you know for the colts i don't know if system benefits as much as offensive line and offense whereas 49ers at system more so than i think the stuff around him does that make sense so i i like mckinnon's situation probably better, but I think it's just a fair comparison because I don't think these guys have the chance to be the best of the best, the elite-level guys. But the ceiling for me would probably be like Philip Lindsay. Okay, okay, gotcha.

I don't think you're getting first-round value in return, but I think you get top 15 value at that position. Right. All right, last thing, Jamie. I know you entered the combine loving Kerryon Johnson. Well, I'll just give you, because you mentioned John Lynch's quote on Dante Pettis. Oh, Pettis, right. We love the way he closed the season, Lynch said. There's some maturation that I think is naturally going to come in terms of putting some girth

on and some strength. I think this offseason is very important for him. Now, you know that they're clearly going to be in the Antonio Brown mix. This is a team that needs an upgrade at receiver. And similar to Baldwin, but on a much lower scale, I'm sure Heath would agree. If you get a healthy Jimmy Garoppolo, healthy Marquise Goodwin, all the expectations that we had for Goodwin last year are still there, if in fact this is the receiving core. Because Pettis will step into Pierre Garçon's role at the minimum and could be their number one guy, but certainly may not have the ceiling that what Goodwin can get to.

It's almost like the Seahawks. Goodwin could be Lockett and Pettis could be Baldwin, which is not a slap in the face. Wait, Goodwin could be Lockett or Goodwin could be Baldwin? I would say Goodwin could be Lockett. Okay. Pettis would be the one that would be probably the reception leader. Okay.

But Baldwin has been a much better receiver than Lockett. Last year aside, Lockett was like the luckiest receiver in fantasy. Yeah, no, no. This is saying that Goodwin is more of the downfield guy. Uh-huh. Right, right. But, you know, could be 1,000 yards and six, seven touchdowns. I don't know if Pettis can do that yet.

Oh, he can, Jamie. But clearly they're going to make him a focal point. Whether he's the one or the two, that I think is going to determine how good this 49ers offense can be, obviously factoring in George Kill in the passing game as well. Heath, let me give you Dante Pettis' ridiculous pace based on his last four healthy games down the stretch, because he got hurt early in his final game of the season. In those four

games, 16-game pace with 68 catches, 1,352 yards, and a robust 16 touchdowns on 19.9 yards per catch. I take that back. I guess he was obviously too good at the end of last year. But, yeah. Does anybody? I like Dante Pettis right now more than any other year two wide receiver. Does anybody else feel that way in the world? Forever or for this year? For 2019.

I think I have him at the highest at this point. Okay. DJ Moore is right there with him. I'd prefer DJ Moore and PPR, I think. Okay. Alright, and Jamie, let's wrap up with Karyon Johnson. I assume you have his jersey now.

What did you learn about him? Did it make you more excited or less excited about Karyon? It's sort of mixed because it seems as if they're going to lean on him the most, but it also sounds like they're open to running back by committee. Between Bob Quinn, the general manager, and Matt Patricia, who said, we kind of used Karrion Johnson to surprise people last year. Well, maybe if you played him more, you would have. Right.

I mean, surprise. You had a bad year um i i don't imagine them investing in investing significantly at that position but obviously based on johnson's injury track record they probably need to add someone there um that i think will be the determining factor overall because theo riddick is still, as of now, under contract. LeGarrette Blount is not expected to return. So I still like the upside for Kerryon Johnson, but I'm very curious to see what they're going to do because that will sway, I think, no matter what they're saying, even though they're kind of indicating that they want to have another guy. If it's a day five guy in the draft.

If it's a day three guy, then that's a little bit more telling. But if it's a day two guy, even if they traded up to get Karina Johnson last season, we'll see how that goes. Did you guys watch the Sunday version of the NFL draft when it used to be Saturday, Sunday? Yeah, if it wasn't working, yeah, sure. I mean, when I was a kid, I don't know if you were – I'm talking like before you started in the industry when you were just a fan because that was really so boring yet i feel like i couldn't take my eyes off of it it was such a big deal back then yeah i mean it's you know

even though it's changed it's still a big deal it's funny though because from a work perspective we kind of approached that day as let's just recap the teams and then when you get you know one of the headlining names that has slipped or you know yeah not headlining names but you know right the big stories like if a trace mcsorley goes around around seven you know oh that's interesting yeah that's the the type of prospect conversation we usually have it's usually more wrapping up the team like right now i basically am glued on thursday and i'm totally fine just just kind of catching up on it after friday and saturday whereas when i was younger i felt like i couldn't stop watching heath how about you talk about your childhood yeah i don't think i had the same Sunday experience you did, but I had friends.

I watched with my friends. I was probably doing other things. We watched. We ordered pizzas. But I'm more likely to watch the last day now than I was then, for sure. How is the pizza in Missouri? It's just nothing special. Yeah. Missouri. It's just nothing special. We have all the

regular chain pizza and it's fine, but there's no Kansas City pizza. Right. Someone's going to email the show now and say this place has the Kansas City pizza. Whatever. You just get barbecue instead when you watch the show. It's not nationally known like Adam's favorite

or Dave's favorite. What's my favorite? I would say Kansas city pizza is everybody as good as the new york new york pizza i had probably better that's what happens when you eat in your hotel lobby or wherever you eat uh so speaking of which let's talk about jamie's experience in indianapolis with a rapid fire combine questions. Jamie, best drill to watch? Live? You can only see the bench press. Oh, really? Yeah.

Everything else is on TV. All right, audible. Worst? You weren't allowed to watch the 40? No. I'm audibling. What drill does Adam have a chance in competing against anyone else in the podcast? Three-cone.

Three-cone. Okay. Which apparently DK Metcalf. Wait a second. Wait, wait, wait. Does Adam have a chance in competing against anyone else in the podcast? Three cone. Three cone. Okay. Yeah. Which apparently DK Metcalf. Wait a second. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You said competing against anyone in the podcast? Right.

Who do you think wins the 40? Oh, I'll beat you in the 40. I think I'd beat you in the 42. Okay. But I'd beat Dave. True. Possibly. Okay.

Finish top two. We'll go finish top two. Okay. It's not bench press. It's not Benchpress. It's definitely not any jumping. Benchpress will be interesting because I won't say it. Do they have anything less than the bar to Benchpress?

No, you've got to go 225, right? You've got to go 225. Okay, I'll do the bar. Could you do that once? No chance. No chance. I'd struggle to do it once. I'm not sure if I could or not. Yeah. I doubt it. Okay, best drill to watch and worst drill to watch were the same.

They were the bench press. Favorite thing about Indianapolis? The steakhouses were good. I went to Prime 47 and St. Elmo's, and they were both fantastic. Man, I want to go to a steakhouse now. How do you get your steak? Medium. No, medium rare.

Heath? Rare medium. I don't like it rare, but a little bit more rare than medium rare. Okay. Favorite media member to hang out with? Should I get my bottle of water right now? I really enjoyed it. I said this to them.

I really enjoyed it, and I am very excited about their coverage. Our two NFL guys that were in there in Indianapolis, and they were also at the Super Bowl, Ryan Wilson and John Breach. Ryan Wilson is now basically the face of our NFL draft coverage, and he's doing an unbelievable job. I encourage everybody to follow him. And John Breach has been one of our NFL guys for years. I've never spent time with them prior to the Super Bowl,

and they are awesome, awesome guys. Wow. Staying in the CBS family. I like it. The best meal you had, I guess it was a steak. Yes. What was the side dish? What was the best side dish?

The best side dish. The mashed potatoes at, no, the cheese bread at St. Elmo's. Oh, yeah. That sounds good. Heath, you go to a steakhouse. What's the must-have side dish? I'm usually a baked potato guy. God, so boring.

No mushrooms? Red roasted potatoes were great. No mushrooms? Mushrooms are the best, right? Mushrooms are fine. But I want a baked potato and then either, like, asparagus or zucchini or something like that as a vegetable. Maybe a little mac and cheese? Yeah, sure.

All right, Jamie, best GM or coach to talk to? Best GM or coach to talk to? Bruce Arians, coach. GM, Howie Roseman because he's a Gator. He's like your age, right? He was done before I started at Florida. So he was, I guess, four years old. Okay.

Okay. Thank you, guys. Good stuff. Now let's talk about more. I don't know why I thanked you. Thank you, Jamie, for that insight. More news and notes. It's a newsy show today.

Hey, who's excited about Nick Foles going to Jacksonville? Yeah. No. Hey, all right, Heath. Nick Foles on Jacksonville, which, of course, is not official. Or Carson Wentz on Philadelphia. I think that Wentz will have better weapons. And he has a much better coach. So I would say it'll be Wentz.

Okay, I'm glad you gave those qualifiers. I just feel bad for the Eagles now, because I don't know what they're going to do in December. Antonio Brown could end up with Washington, Tennessee, or Oakland. According to Adam Schefter, what would be your favorite spot? San Francisco. Of those three? Oh, boy.

Oakland. That's so bad. I want to say Tennessee, but I think they could be in the market for quarterback. I was thinking, if Antonio Brown goes to Tennessee, would you have more excitement for Mariota or disappointment for Antonio Brown? Which way would the needle move more?

There is nowhere that he is going unless it's Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Andrew Luck that I'm going to be more excited about Antonio Brown's situation. No, no, no. I know it's a downgrade, but who would have more of an impact? The positive impact for Mariota or the negative impact for Antonio Brown? Positive for Mariota. I'll say negative for Corey Davis. Okay. Going off the board, I like that.

Is there a positive for Corey Davis at this point? I mean, he's just been so frustrating. So, Cliff Kingsbury has said that this is according to tony paulie and draft insider that drafting kyler murray number one overall is a done deal there seems to be a lot of smoke here with the pay us give us all of your picks or we're gonna take him that's what he's saying i think they're taking him no matter what i mean unless the offer is just so overwhelming and i think washington's going to end up with Josh Rosen.

It is kind of funny how he has shot up draft boards, huh? Kyler Murray, borderline first-round pick. He's got a good chance to go number one overall. We had this conversation. Obviously, it's more NFL than fantasy. Which quarterback left Indianapolis in better or worse shape, Haskins or Murray? Oh, Murray. fantasy um which quarterback left indianapolis in better or worse shape haskins or murray oh like haskins haskins did nothing wrong except he had a very slow 40 time didn't he like over five yeah but i think a lot of people expect him to be slow um and he didn't necessarily have the

best passing he didn't do anything bad he just didn't't wow people. So did Kyler Murray, by just getting measured and having a better press conference than he did his media rounds at the Super Bowl, did he leave there with a better perception? That's my argument, that he left with a better public perception than Haskins did. I think people are looking at him now as the number one quarterback. Oh, for sure. Even though I don't think a lot of the NFL personnel people are. I think that he made more gains than Haskins, but he started lower. And he's certainly in the

conversation now much more so than before as the number one quarterback off the board. And like, first it started, he's a borderline first round pick. Then maybe he'd go to the Dolphins. There's no way the Dolphins are getting Murray unless they trade up. Oh, no.

They're both top five picks. Someone's going to trade into the top. Please be top six. Well, you saw there was one report, right, about who they may be taking? Who, the Giants? Yeah. Who? Daniel Jones.

Oh, at six? Yep. We have a new list of teams that appear to be the most interested in Antonio Brown from Ian Rappaport just 10 seconds ago. Ah, what do we got? The Raiders, so they get two points now because they've been on both lists. The Broncos and the Arizona Cardinals. That'd be fun. Murray to Brown.

Cardinals would be interesting if they're able to get multiple picks for rosen right if you watch some highlights of uh kyler murray the way he throws the ball deep on the run is ridiculous i mean you just don't see quarterbacks doing stuff like that so the first five picks are the cardinals, Niners, Jets, Raiders, and Bucs. Jets will trade out. Yeah, certainly teams that could trade down. Certainly. Broncos are going to be interesting if they really want to still draft a quarterback. Apparently John Elway is infatuated with Drew Locke.

It's a great defensive line class, right? Oh, ridiculous. Yeah. So that's not always going to be so fantasy relevant, but a lot of good defensive players are going to come off. No, I mean, DK Metcalf has put himself in top 10 range with his measurables. That dude's a freak. Although apparently his three-cone time was the same as Tom Brady's.

I don't think he's not a very good route runner yet, right? Like he can go deep. And maybe run a post, but I don't know he's not a very good route runner yet, right? He can go deep. No. And maybe run a post. But I don't know that he can do much else. No, but the physical comps, you're hearing Julio Jones and T.O. and guys like that that are just chiseled that can move. Chiseled does not begin to describe DK Metcalf.

He has a 1% body fat. The most ripped person I've ever seen. I've never seen anything like this. What is your body fat currently, Adam? I don't know. What do you think it is? It's probably like... Like 18%?

Is that too high? I would have gone lower. I think 18 is normal, right? Yeah, I think I'm pretty normal. I don't have any muscle. I just don't have a lot of fat. All those mushrooms. All right.

So Baltimore waived Alex Collins after he was arrested on narcotics and gun charges. All from grace. Carson Wentz expected to be healthy for off-season workouts. Do you realize there are a lot of things, Heath, that I feel like you would like about Carson Wentz. He completed 69%

of his passes. He had a better passer rating than he did in 2017 when he was probably going to win the MVP. Yeah, I have him as a top 12 quarterback this year. They need receiver help. I didn't realize you did. I didn't think you would. You know what he did

a lot last year, though? He fumbled a lot. He had nine fumbles in 11 games. So that's... I don't know if he has a fumbling problem, but it was hurting him. It was hurting his fantasy value. How old are you, Adam? 34.

So normal, healthy body fat for ages 20 to 39 is about 25%. Oh, gosh. I hope I'm more than 80. I could be wrong. This is according to Wikipedia. I could be reading it wrong. Wikipedia? It's like a little graph thing.

Wikipedia. Well, Adam's like 65% bone and 20% hair. So... I need a haircut so badly. The Jets are showing little interest in Le'Veon Bell, according to Tony Pauline, who had the Kyler Murray note. He's going to be... Maybe not, but I feel like he's going to be so disappointed

by what his final contract is. This Todd Gurley thing is terrible for him. It is terrible. Why commit all that money? Yeah, he got paid a ton, and not going to get the return on investment. I don't remember the last time I had the rant about the Steelers babying Ben Roethlisberger. Were you on that show, Jamie? No. I don't remember the last time I had the rant about the Steelers

babying Ben Roethlisberger. Were you on that show, Jamie? No. I think you were. I was saying that they won't criticize him because they can't afford to lose him. Oh, maybe so. Even though he shouldn't be calling out Antonio Brown. Then they go and say

that it's like Ben Roethlisberger and 50 kids. 52 kids, yeah. What a stupid thing to say. It's amazing to think of what they had a couple of years ago and what they got out of it. It's disappointing, yeah. Kevin Colbert, the general manager,

said, I don't know what everybody's talking about. Drama in our locker room. Yeah, I don't know about that. All right, so just a few more notes adam gaze wants to expand quincy anunra's role of course shocking that is shocking we need more two yard passes please he loves chris herndon oh my god that's a that's a good note that's a good note and then they gave robbie anderson a second round tender right yeah so they're probably keeping him too. Yeah, Herndon? How good is Chris Herndon?

Jamie, if I recall, you really like him, right? Yeah, I do. I think there's upside there. You go back to Adam Gase's track record. Again, him and John Elway, I think, are going to get a lot of credit for their careers because they landed Peyton Manning. So that makes things a lot different in their coaching resumes. But when he had Julius Thomas, he got a lot of production out of his tight end. And then when he was the one year in Chicago, the group there got a lot of production without really having a singular guy.

Miami was not necessarily the same thing. But if he gets a guy that hopefully can build off what he did a year ago, Sam Darnold seems to like Herndon and sounds like Gase does as well. He called him a unicorn of a player. I'm looking at Fantasy Pro's consensus ADP, and he is the 15th tight end off the board. He's going after Austin Hooper, which surprises me. You guys have him higher than 15th, right? I haven't done my rankings yet, but yeah, I like him better.

I think it's right in that range. I wish I'd seen your rankings. Or, like, you know, can look into your head and get your rankings. The Chiefs, big babies that they are, are going to propose a rule that gives both teams the ball in overtime. It's a good rule. No, it's terrible. It's play defense. It's a good rule.

Keep a team out of the end zone. Are you of the belief that they win the game if they get the ball? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And the Jaguars are looking to trade Carlos Hyde and Malik Jackson. That's a defensive tackle, Malik Jackson, according to ESPN. Is there a scenario where you guys could be excited about Carlos Hyde? I think anybody that ends up in Philly, if they don't do anything draft-wise.

I would like to announce I've got a pair of Tom's shoes that I wore to the Willie Nelson concert on Saturday, and they now have a hole in the bottom of them, and I am going to try to trade them. See what I can get for them. Gosh, could you be more of a hippie right now? You wore Tom's shoes? What, did you eat a bunch of kale?

I have six pairs of Tom's shoes. What? Yeah, six different colors. Oh, wow. I didn't know people still wore those. I thought those were out of style. They might be. This could not have been a good concert, right?

It was fantastic. 85 years old, and he plays for an hour and a half, almost two hours straight. No opening act, never sits down. He's a legend. Wow, that is actually pretty impressive. That's pretty impressive. I'm trying to get myself to the Fleetwood Mac concert. I believe they do a cover of Don't Dream It's Over by Crowded House,

which is a song I fell in love with after I saw it in Adventureland with Jesse Eisenberg. Nice. Thank you. There we go. All right. Jason Lock and Forrest combine notes. A little bit juicier. The Jets like Tevin Coleman, according to Jason Lock and Forrest.

Do you guys like Tevin Coleman on the Jets? Yeah. I mean, I would prefer to see him maybe Baltimore, Philly, Tampa. The Jets are not my first hope for any offensive free agents, but it wouldn't

be bad if they want to commit to him. So how good do we think Tevin Coleman is? I mean, you have a pretty good sample size of what he does when he starts. That's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. But again, I'd like to see him in a little bit more of an explosive offense. My two favorite destinations for any of these free agent guys

would be Tampa and Baltimore, the running backs. Philly would probably be third. Don't the Jets feel or do the Jets feel like a team that's ready to maybe get to be like a top 10 offense? Not top five, not a lead or anything, but top 10. Do they feel that way to you? They need a lot of offensive line help. Yeah. I mean, I would rather be a Jets fan than a Giants fan right now for sure.

Wow. But I'm just not sure I'm going to buy into Adam Gase. The thing is, there's never been a point in history where, since Joe Namath, where it's been better to be a Jets fan than a Giants fan. Except for right now. No, I just don't see it. I do see it. I do see it. But what you don't see it like i do see it i do see it but what you don't understand is what the jets really are and it's just it come may 1st if the giants

come out of the draft with kyler murray or haskins are you still thinking the same thing um yeah i don't know that's that's a good question i don't i kind of don't think they're going to. They might come out of the draft with Josh Rosen. That'd be interesting. The Jets scored 22 points at Tennessee, 27 points at Buffalo, 22 points against Houston, 38 points in overtime against Green Bay, and then three points against New England. Those are their final five games. Yeah, five games. So they started...

If you were to say star power right now, which team has the most star power? Giants, though, right? Oh, the Giants, for sure, yeah. Well, it's not by much. I mean, Giants really have two stars. I don't know. Most teams have two stars, though, on offense.

On offense or just in general? I mean, I guess, do you consider Landon Collins still a star? No. And he's not going to be a giant, right? Might not be. And then Lock and Forrest saying that Tyrell Williams is expected to get a big payday. I'll remind people, Tyrell Williams was number 13 in non-PPR, number 18 in PPR two seasons ago, or three seasons ago,

when Keenan Allen missed almost the entire year. He had 69 catches. Yeah, he did miss the entire year. He tore his ACL in week one. Yeah, right. Right almost the entire year. He had 69 catches. Yeah, he did miss the entire year. He tore his ACL in week one. Yeah, right about the entire year. 69 catches, 1,059 yards, seven touchdowns on 120 targets in 16 games. We're doing a bunch of free agent previews, videos,

and Gary Drink. Pete Prisco has been ranked as the number one free agent wide receiver. That's not including Antonio Brown since he's not technically a free agent, but he likes him better than Golden Tate and better than John Brown. Yeah, I don't know if he's going to deserve a big payday, but he's going to get it because of the market.

And then could you see him being a – would you rather see Tyra Williams be a number one on a team like Washington or like a number two on a better team? I don't want to see anybody go to Washington until they figure out that quarterback situation. A number two. I don't think he's a true number one. I'd like to see him be a number two on a team

who's number one. I'd love to see him go to Cleveland. And be there with Jarvis. That's a great call. I like that. Don't go to Baltimore, please. Don't go to Baltimore Baltimore this is what Lockett Forrest said this is a quote nothing I have heard in Indy this week has made me think Alex Smith plays football again look for the skins to add multiple quarterbacks this offseason I really just you know the the

buzz in Indianapolis was Washington's going to be a big, big player for Rosen. Wow, okay. If the Cardinals make a move. Was there buzz about Odell Beckham being on the block? Because Lock and Forrest saying that execs are chatting about the Raiders giving up a first-round pick this year and next year. They have three this year for Beckham. Hypothetical. I mean, you know, Gettleman and Schermer shot that down rather quickly, but I can't

imagine that if you're in a total rebuild, and someone's going to offer you multiple first-round picks for any player, you can't ignore that conversation. Yeah. So, you know, I mean, knowing that the Raiders are going to have... I mean, if the Raiders

were to give up, what are they, fourth? Number four overall pick? Yes. And then one of the later first round picks. That's hard to pass up. Do you take Josh Rosen and a first round pick next year for Beckham? I think people feel like Josh Rosen is just a bust. I don't know.

Obviously, I don't know how the Giants feel. Oh, 100% they do. Yeah, I don't think... I don't think it's fair, but... The Raiders, by the way, have 4, 24, and 27. So if you're... Put on your GM hat, Giants fan. If you're Gettleman, and that's the offer, 4 and 24 for Beckham.

Do you take it? Yeah, in a heartbeat. And I get to keep the six pick? And you get to keep the six pick. You probably have to give up a third or fourth. Oh, my God. Yeah. In a second, I'd do that.

So three first-round picks in a draft that's defensive line heavy? Which is what the Giants need. Defensive linemen, for sure. Defense in general. They have one of the worst defense in football. Oh, yeah. So four gets you one of the quarterbacks. Who is worth...

Like, how many players are worth the fourth, sixth, and 24th picks or whatever? Very few. You're not getting the sixth. You're not getting sixth. You keep sixth. Sixth is all yours. Okay, fourth and 24th. How many wide receivers are worth that?

I think Odell Beckham is. Yeah, you'd say Beckham, Michael Thomas probably just based on age. Odell Beckham, but Odell Beckham is. Yeah, you'd say Beckham, Michael Thomas probably just based on age. Odell Beckham, but Odell Beckham's also really expensive. Michael Thomas, you have more salary control. That's why the Giants are shopping him if they are. They're not shopping him because they want to get rid of him.

They're shopping because they want to pay him. If he went to Oakland, good or bad? Terrible. Not good. Although, it's not really a quarterback downgrade. That's the thing. Probably that's the same as far as quarterback goes. Except for. Although, I mean, it's not really a quarterback downgrade. That's the thing. I mean. It's probably that's the same as far as quarterback goes. Except for some reason I trust. A lot of targets.

I trust Manning to give him numbers more than I trust Carr. And it may not be Carr. Do you agree? I know. Look, I know Manning's not that good, but I don't really worry about Beckham's performance with Manning. I would worry about it with Carr. I don't think I'd worry about it with Carr. I think Beckham's good enough it doesn't really matter that much.

He wouldn't be a top five receiver for me. We got your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com right after this. Kick off an exciting football season with BetMGM, an official sportsbook partner of the National Football League. Yard after yard, down after down, the sportsbook Born in Vegas gives you the chance to take action to the end zone and celebrate every highlight reel play. And as an official sportsbook partner of the NFL, BetMGM is the best place to fuel your football fandom on every game day. With a variety of exciting features, BetMGM offers you plenty of seamless ways to jump straight onto the gridiron and to

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Quarterbacks. They feel like quarterbacks. I don't know what they have in common, but they feel like quarterbacks. Keeper League, I can keep three. Non-PPR, $200 budget. I'm already keeping Juju and Camara for $11 each. Third spot, do I keep? $16 Sony Michelle.

$35 Tyreek Hill. $53 DeAndre Hopkins. Or a $48 Joe Mixon. Non-PPR, you said, right? Non-PPR. It gives you a lot of capital to keep Sonny Michel with those other two guys and then you could potentially spend the same

on DeAndre Hopkins I would think yeah this is tough because you don't know what the player pool looks like or the money left I'm tempted because you've got Juju and Kamara so cheap to just keep Hopkins because you've got Juju and Kamara so cheap to just keep Hopkins because you

can afford to. I'd hate to see him go. Sometimes these auctions guys go for a lot more than they should. So that comes out to $75, right? That's correct? For those three guys? That's a great start. It's a great start, but it's a lot of money for a $200 budget, though. For Juju, Kamara, and Hopkins?

I mean, if we were doing it not for what you're getting back. I don't know. If Hopkins went for 53 last year, what was he projected as a top five receiver, right? You're talking maybe 55,

58. You get Juju, Kamara, and Michelle. For me, that's hard to pass up. Can I just say that Tyreek Hill was the number one wide receiver in non-PPR last year, and he's, in this scenario, $18 cheaper than DeAndre Hopkins. That's a great point, too. I sort of overlooked him at first, too,

but I kind of feel like maybe that's the answer. Maybe. Heath, do you want to... I did it at the very beginning. I think I'd just go with Hopkins. You'd go with Hopkins. Okay.

But you weren't blown away by the point I made. It was a fine point. Okay. This is Ralph from Manhattan. Manhattan, New York. Dear Hakeem, Mario, Sterling, Russell, and Corey. Oh, come on. That's easy.

These are Giants receivers. Oh. Corey Coleman. Standard three receiver league, eighth round keeper, Nick Chubb or Kenny Galladay? I'm going Chubb. Yep. It's good. Man, until we get the news of the suspension,

it's going to be so interesting to see that guy. I can already picture. Bonus podcast. We just got the Kareem Hunt news. Let's react. It'll probably happen next week. Okay, then we don't do a bonus podcast about it. This is from, no name.

Let's just say Mark. Dear Devin, Dante, Dion, and Gail. Great returners. Way to cheat, Heath. Oh, this is Dan. Sorry. Dan from a city that is home to the National Institutes of Health headquarters and the hospital where President Trump gets his yearly physical.

Okay, that is Bethesda, Maryland. Okay, thank you, Dan. Very educational. 12-team halfesda, Maryland. Okay, thank you, Dan. Very educational. 12-team half PBR, two-keeper league. Players can be kept as long as you want for a one-round draft penalty. I'm already keeping Sonny Michel for a seventh. Should I keep Cooper Cup for a

sixth, Andrew Luck for a sixth, Cortland Sutton in the eleventh, or Deontay Foreman in the eleventh? I'd probably go Cup. If he's healthy. It's about the range he'll go, though. There's no great value here.

No. Cup it is. Jeff from Indiana, Pennsylvania. Oh, curveball. He says, hey, Byron, Shelley shelly keats and wordsworth ah i think those are british romantic poets such a cheater uh okay jeff's question is dynasty trade sometimes people tell us what the answer is in their email and i will include that in the show notes and then heath will pretend that he's figuring it

out but he's really just reading whereas Jamie doesn't look so Jamie is genuinely guessing I have much greater respect for you doing notes after having to do it when you're on paternity leave oh really yes your notes are notes are fun so uh George Kittle he'd be giving up. No, he'd be getting Kittle and Juju for DeAndre Hopkins or Kittle and Juju for Kelsey and a second-round rookie draft pick. So he already has Kelsey. And his wide receivers are not great after Hopkins. It's Christian Kirk, John Ross, and Demarius Thomas. I would trade Kelsey in the second round pick for Kittle and Juju.

A hundred percent. Yeah, that's a good one. Man, now you're starting Hopkins, Juju, Melvin Gordon. Oh, you need running back help too. Yikes. Oh, you need quarterback help too. You're not getting anything in the second round though. In the second round of a rookie draft?

Yeah, nothing. It'll be a fluke. One of the things that's not projected to be. Great. Man. Yeah. Well, your team. Your team's...

Okay. John. John is in a work league for over 10 years. Now he's moving into a keeper league. Starting with just one keeper from this previous year, and this league has large bonuses, like five points for a 50-plus yard pass. I keep hearing that keeping Mahomes is a mistake,

but I can't help but want to based on age. I could also keep James Conner, Le'Veon Bell, or Travis Kelsey. Conner. Yeah, I would keep Conner over those other guys. It's going to be interesting to see what they do with sharing touches if they do it for the first time. I would keep Kelsey over Mahomes too.

I mean, right now, I'd probably keep Bell over him. No? We'll see where he goes. There's no scenario where Le'Veon Bell is behind the holes. Willing to accept a relatively reasonable offer and go to Tampa Bay. And then I think he'd be great. In this scenario, though, where you're just keeping one player,

you don't really care about 2020 and beyond, right? You just care about 2019? A little bit. I mean, Dave always asks the question, is it a one-year keeper or is it not? If it's a one-year keeper, then no. Yeah, don't keep the homes. Alright, thanks.

Jamie, it's good to have you back. Heath, it's good to have you back. And we're going to get Dave back later in the week when we do our second episode. Please email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. You can always listen to us on Stitcher, by the way. Our friends at Stitcher do a great job promoting our content. We actually have one of the most popular us on Stitcher, by the way. Our friends at Stitcher do a great job promoting our content. We actually have one of the most popular podcasts on Stitcher, and that's because of you listeners.

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