Fantasy Football Today - 04/15: Finishing Up Our Mock Draft Review (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 15, 2019

After we went over some of the best picks and thoroughly reviewed the first three rounds of our PPR mock draft on Friday's episode, we wrap it up today with Rounds 4-8 and a review our teams ... We bring on Matthew Coca to give a different Fantasy perspective and talk about his team. Find out the common thread many of his draft picks have ... Did Jarvis Landry get taken too early? Who is the best NE RB in this format? Do you need a certain amount of catches from your RBs? ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. What's up, everybody? Hope you had a great weekend.

And I hope you're ready to talk about the rest of our PPR Mock Draft. We got through the first three rounds on Friday? Yeah, Friday. And now we're back here on Monday to give you the rest. I'm Adam Azer. He is Dave Richard. Hey, Dave. What's going on?

How are you? Jamie and I have already had our Game of Thrones recap sesh. What's up, Jamie? We're not going to do it on the air? No, we're not going to do it on the air. We decided it's bad etiquette. But the death of the dragon has to be done. And Matthew Koka's here.

We teased it on Friday. We said we're getting Koka here to talk about his awesome team. What's up, Matt? Yeah, I have no idea why I am here. When you texted me yesterday, I asked you if it was a good or bad thing, and you said, well, you'll have to find out. So here I am trying to find out. Well, I don't know either. I don't know if it's a good or bad thing, and you said, well, you'll have to find out. So here I am trying to find out.

Well, I don't know either. I don't know if it's a good or bad thing. But I do know that if you – and we'll do this on the air. If you could maybe speak a little bit more directly into the microphone, it would be helpful. Isn't he supposed to know this? Isn't he a producer? Yes. I'm as close to the microphone as I possibly can be without the microphone being in my mouth.

It's like in Ren and Stimpy when the big microphone went into Stimpy's nostrils when he was doing a live read for Gritty Kitty. How's that for a 20-year-old reference that no one's going to get? Outstanding. Thank you. Good stuff. All right, well, Matthew, tell us. First of all, Matthew or Matt? It doesn't matter.

Okay. They're both my names, but yeah, I go by, Matthew or Matt? It doesn't matter. Okay. Coca. They're both my names, but yeah, I go by Coca. They're both your names. It's the same name. Yeah, but I go by Coca. I go by Dave and David. Tell us what you do at CBS.

Well, I'm a producer. I have a show called Canel and Bell with Danny Canel and Raja Bell that's on five days a week on CBS Sports HQ. And I've produced a lot of the FFT that is on-camera stuff, so the show during the season. I've done a lot of that producing. And I'm just a great fantasy football – what do we call them? Is it a coach, a manager? Player. Player.

Player. Okay. Yeah, you are. You are very good. We're happy to have you here. We had a fun thing with Coca because we were nominated for an FSWA award. I think it was FSWA. For FFT.

Coca is one of four producers during the season, but we didn't know which show we were nominated for. So I was giving the four of them basically the scene with Joker with Heath Ledger where he breaks the pool stick and says, you fight it out for the two guys for one spot. It was the four of them for who was going to be the one that claimed the winning show of our producers. Oh. That wasn't such a great story.

Well, you weren't paying attention. I wasn't really paying attention. You've got to change your references to Ren and Stimpy. No one remembers the Joker breaking pool cue scene. Everybody remembers Ren and Stimpy. But let's talk about the Dragon. Let's get into the draft here.

Alright, so to recap. Actually, you know what? Let's hit on a few news items real quick. The Patriots signed Austin Sperry and Jenkins to a one-year deal last week. Dave, Jamie, does that mean Austin Sferian Jenkins should be drafted? He was drafted in this draft. Yeah, should he have been? He went into the 10th round, so he went early 10th round, like 110th-ish overall. I always find when we do these early drafts,

and certainly when people are doing best ball drafts before the NFL draft, you're going to take flyers on guys that are kind of placeholders for where some of these rookies will be. So in this case, I think the Patriots will have to tie it in. I didn't necessarily mean it like that, but you're taking guys that you know that have sort of a chance in a good spot, and he has a chance in a good spot. But he's kind of been a terrible player everywhere he's been.

Yeah, he's all right with the Jets, right? And then I guess the patriots did pretty well with martellus bennett three years ago when gronkowski missed eight games uh bennett had uh 55 catches 700 701 yards and seven touchdowns on 73 targets and that was with gronkowski playing half the season but the last two years you've gotten nothing from duane allen so i don't know dave what do you think about asj as of now i'm not drafting him i want to see him earn a starting role with the patriots before i seriously consider putting him in the top 120 aaron rogers played through a fractured leg and a sprained mcl last year or so. Pretty severe injury.

And healthy and motivated this year. We don't talk about that. Sean McVay, though, said he expects Todd Gurley to be a focal point of the offense. What do you guys think about that? Sean McVay says Gurley will be a focal point of the offense. It's encouraging. I mean, look, as long as he's healthy, he's going to be good. There's clearly a risk of re-injuring himself,

and he may be getting to a point where these knees become's healthy, he's going to be good. There's clearly a risk of re-injuring himself, and he may be getting to a point where these knees become a problem, or the left knee in particular. But if he's going to play 16 games, you have to be excited about that. So as long as, again, there's no one else added, I'll move him back up. I'm probably the lowest on him of the three of us in factoring Heath. I think today's Heath's birthday, by the way. It is. Happy birthday, Heath.

Yeah, I'll be more encouraged by Gurley as we get closer to the season, and he may end up as a good bargain, even in this draft, going at 6th overall. Koka, what pick did you have in this draft? You had the... The 8th. The 8th pick.

Would you have taken Gurley if he were there at eight? No, because I'm big. I think everybody knows this in PPR. If it's one point per the reception, I'm always taking wide receivers in the first round. Everybody knows that. All of our listeners know that, too. Okay, wide receivers.

You did take Michael Thomas. You've got to understand that Coke has an audience that listens to our show. Yeah, I have a thousand Twitter followers. They all know. But you have friends that listen to our show, right? You want to give them a shout out? Yeah, shout out to Mike Mango. He's about to listen today, and hopefully he hears this.

What a name. Is he good at fantasy? What a name. Is he good? Is he good at fantasy? When you play him in fantasy, who wins more often, him or you? He's one of those guys. He's like you, where he's in a ton of different leagues,

so it's hard for him to pay attention in our league, and I just dominate in our league. Nice. I usually walk past Coco on the way to our podcast, and he's like, yo, yo, my boy, my boy. You don't understand. My boy. It's Jersey.

You know it's Jersey. You've got to show Jersey love. All right. So those are your news items. Here we go. I'll just go over the first three rounds really quickly and tell you who was drafted and when. It was PPR. It's 12 teams.

Quarterback, two running backs, two receivers, tight end, kicker defense, and a flex. Saquon Barkley won. Zeke, Kamara, McCaffrey, Gordon, and Gurley. First six picks were running backs. Jamie had the second pick. He took Zeke. I had the fourth pick, McCaffrey, Gordon, and Gurley. First six picks were running backs. Jamie had the second pick. He took Zeke. I had the fourth pick, McCaffrey, although I was late to the draft,

so Jamie took McCaffrey for me. Dave had the seventh pick. He took Hopkins. Koka had the eighth pick. He took Michael Thomas. So it was Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Julio Jones, James Conner, David Johnson, and Juju Smith-Schuster. That's your first round.

Followed by Joe Mixon, Devontae Adams, which we thought was amazing. Even 14th overall by Joe Mixon, Devontae Adams, which we thought was amazing, like even 14th overall is just too late for Devontae Adams, Patrick Mahomes, too early, Le'Veon Bell, Odell Beckham to Coca, good pick there, we liked it, Nick Chubb to Dave, Dalvin Cook, Travis Kelsey, T.Y. Hilton to me, Zach Ertz, get a little tight end run here, Tyreek Hill to Jamie, Tariq Cohen.

Interesting pick at the end of round two. 24th overall. Round three was Keenan. Round three had this run of wide receivers that was just really exciting. Keenan Allen, Antonio Brown, A.J. Green, and Mike Evans. Jamie took Brown. I took Evans. Then Amari Cooper.

Then George Kittle was a nice pick in the middle of round three. Dave took Damian Williams. We broke down the Aaron Jones pick by Matthew Koka. How did you feel about that pick? I liked it a lot. I think I liked it more than David Jamie did, but we all liked it. But I love it. It was my favorite pick of the draft, Koka, Aaron Jones.

Well, I appreciate that. Listen, I'm always going for value, and you're bringing in a new head coach, one I think is going to respect Aaron Jones' ability ability and he's going to give him the football i think i think we've seen what aaron rogers can do with the the weapons that he has and i think taking a lot off of him is just handing the football off to aaron jones and just letting him do his thing so the i figured where he was and who was left on the board you could see see Leonard Fournette was the next back off the board. I just valued Aaron Jones way more than I did someone like a Leonard Fournette. I don't like the pick so much that he took Jamal Williams in round 10.

I took Jamal Williams? Yes. Hey, round 10. That's a great pick. That's the best pick in the draft. I'm going to trade Jamal Williams to... Here's my Acer offer. I give you Jamal Williams to handcuff Aaron Jones.

You give me... Sonny Michel. He's not good at this format anyway. Yeah. I'll take... Deal. Okay, great. That's binding.

Why did you take Aaron Jones over Julian Edelman and Adam Thielen and Stefan Diggs? Well, because I already had Odell and I had Michael Thomas, and I didn't want to go three wide receivers in a row. And when I saw Aaron Jones on the board and just his late-season play last year, it was just – to me it was a no-brainer to take him being my first running back with that sort of value. Do you remember – I'm sorry. It's just an interesting theory, though.

Had you taken a receiver there, because essentially what you have now is those two stud receivers and I think two very good running backs, Aaron Jones and Sonny Michel. Had you taken, which of the guys did you mention, Adam? Oh, Thielen, Diggs, and Edelman. Okay, any one of those three guys. Is that an upgrade over Lamar Miller, who is now your flex? Well, see, in my –

It would be, but it would have cost him Aaron Jones. But I also saw in – Yeah, I guess it's just the – Who's on my bench is Tyler Lockett, and I think from where I drafted Tyler Lockett and basically Doug Baldwin's slide in this draft, I figured that I could put Tyler Lockett into that flex position with him being the number one wide receiver in Seattle. And maybe we'll talk about Seattle and Russell Wilson and him trying to throw the football more. But it looks like that Lockett is going to be his guy and i just love his potential in in

the flex spot do you remember when you drafted jones seeing that there was a drop off at running back and maybe that helped push you like obviously the need was there because you took two receivers with your first two picks but then you see that the other names that were there running back were guys like fournette michelle uh derrick henry was taken after philip lindsey was taken after maybe you figured that jones was just a notch better than all those guys and so you took him figuring that one of the other receivers could potentially make it back to or one of the other running backs i think it was just seeing his name there like i think we were that late and usually running backs are the guys who

fly off the board so i think i saw his name and i was just like why isn't anybody taking him you know you had to pay value you had to pick right before him, and you went with Damian Williams. And I was like, you know what? I can't let him drop off the board because I needed that running back, and I needed someone with RB1 potential, and he's that guy for me. He was the best guy available at that point. Getting off of that, though, I mean, I do like the conversation about taking three wide receivers with your first three

picks. Let's do the team comparison and what it could have been with three wide receivers versus three running backs. Sorry, two wide receivers and a running back. Jamie, help me out. He could have had Michael Thomas, Odell Beckham, and let's say Stefan Diggs,

and then Sonny Michel and Lamar Miller as his running backs? Right, so it's just the difference of the drop-off because Michel would now replace Jones and Miller would replace Michel, essentially, as the number one back and then the number two back. So you'd just be getting, I think, it's just a matter of you value Aaron Jones versus those receivers.

It's kind of splitting here. Yeah, all right. So let's go to round four. After Aaron Jones, it was Edelman, Thielen, Robert Woods, Leonard Fournette. We're going to start our analysis really with round four. And also, I just, you know, why is Matt Matthew Koka on the show? Because he's not, you know, he's a good, great fantasy player. He's not an analyst.

Sorry, I'm not trying to put you down at all. You have a different perspective on things. But everybody knows he takes receivers early. Like what you just said about Tyler Lockett, I think, needs to be discussed. You basically just called him the number one wide receiver. I'm not sure that I'm willing to go there. Oh, he is. In Seattle, he is.

Oh, really? Healthy Doug Baldwin? You're telling me Tyler Lockett is? When's the next time Doug Baldwin's going to be healthy? Well, I don't know. He could very easily go into training camp. He will go into training camp healthy. He will?

Yeah. Breaking news? He's having the surgery. All right. He'll go into the regular season healthy. Hopefully. Oh, look at this. I like this news.

You don't think so? We don't know. We know he's having significant surgery this offseason. His third one. Okay, all right. He's going under the nut. So then I'm the one who has the different view. Anyway, just fresh perspective and helpful stuff. Phillip Lindsey,

first pick of round four. Stefan Diggs, Jarvis Landry, Derek Henry, Sonny Michelle to Coca, Kenny Galladay to Dave. Lindsey, Diggs, Landry, Henry, Michelle, and Galladay.

Thoughts? I mean, all very good players. It's just a matter of how they'll respond in some certain situations. Lindsey and Landry are probably the two that could really kind of change a little bit based on what happened a year ago. Obviously, Landry gets a better player on the field with him at the same position and Odell Beckham, so you have to wonder if he'll still get the 149 targets he had a year ago, but he also could benefit from playing more on the inside and,

and a little bit lighter coverage. And Lindsay, the one staying force in that Broncos coaching staff is the running back coach. He told me that at the pro bowl, that was, you know, kind of,

or the super bowl, I forget when the hire was made, but that, that, that was encouraging for him. But he also himself said that the team needs to see more from Royce Freeman in particular, which you would expect would happen a little bit, especially the way Freeman closed the season. Plus, you have the wrist injury for Lindsey.

How healthy will he be coming off that flexor injury? Hopefully, he'll be the same guy. But there could be some setback in his recovery. Question on Landry. Really bad finish to the season basically when Freddie Kitchens took over. So should he really be a fourth-round pick? Should he be a top-40 pick?

Couldn't the case be made in PPR for it because of what we know about him as a reception getter? Well, he had 81 last year. It's not like he had 100. Yeah, I think his stats will kind of be in the same range that they are now. But I do think you could see maybe an uptick in one or two touchdowns. He's got to be 90-plus receptions to justify it in the fourth round i think it's a little too

soon especially with some of the other guys around the board but you know you are hoping that baker takes a step forward i do think you know one thing to not overlook with this browns team is todd monken as part of the play calling i don't know if he's going to be it's kitchens no i i i know that but i don't know if it's going to be you It's Kitchens. No, I know that, but I don't know if it's going to be, you know, Mocken having 50% say in what the game plan is going into the week, 80% say, 100% say, and Kitchens is the one calling the plays. Kitchens is the one designing the whole playbook. You know, I mean, it's going to be interesting to see how this all unfolds.

But Mocken's influence will certainly help, and Baker's maturation in year two will help. So, you know, Landry could still be you know a significant factor it's just a matter of how much you're talking about Beckham's getting 160 targets when he's playing 16 games that's basically what his pace is and Landry's been above that last year was 149 I'm just gonna I'm just gonna make it kind of hot here I hated the pick of those bad pick I would much rather go ahead of Galladay and some of the other players in this round, you can argue Godwin.

That's a terrible pick. I'm sorry. But you can argue that those two guys may be a little bit too high, but still, that's the kind of range. But Cooper Cup and Brandon Cooks going the next round, that's a little hard to justify. I think people who take Landry that early are banking on him beating lesser coverage and realizing that last year he saw really tough coverage as the number one receiver in Cleveland.

But playing on the outside. And now he's not going to do that. He'll be in the slot more often than not. And any defense that comes up against the Browns and plays their safeties back and double teams against Odell, Baker will take advantage with Landry. I think it's going to be hard to see consistency from him this year. I don't think he'll be very consistent. Okay. So you took, Matthew Koga, you took a guy who had seven catches last year. This is a PPR league, Sonny Michel. Were you concerned at all about his lack of involvement in the passing game

no no because i think that's why you know having the odell and the michael thomas on my team are guys that like i'm hoping will pick up all that slack that that sony michelle's not going to get in the receiving game but he's going to pick up on the ground and he's just another one of those guys, like last year, you sort of saw what he can do in that offense, and Tom Brady's getting older, and Tom Brady just lost Rob Gronkowski. So I think this is another situation where he's just going to be like an Aaron Jones, where they're going to help out their quarterback by giving him the football. I think he looked like he's one of the best running backs

that the Patriots have had in a long time. And we saw that in small bursts. So this is another guy I saw on the board. I saw the value. I saw the potential. And I like the pick. I loved it. I think, you know, you saw really what he could be in the postseason. You know, that's what the the hope is that you're drafting that guy that scored six touchdowns in three postseason games and could be the catalyst of this offense because of everything that he just said, that Matt just said about the offense most likely changing. You don't lose Gronk and have Brady a year older.

I know Isaiah Wynn coming back at the left tackle spot will hopefully be okay, but still unproven as a rookie who missed time last season. The Patriots are all about just getting to January and winning. And so can they get there with Michelle, who did not have a great regular season and dealt with some injuries, but I think can take another step forward in the passing game, but certainly can dominate on the ground. Can I ask a question? Yeah.

Is this the order so we had we had three rookies or they were rookies last year go in this in this fourth round with philip lindsey then sony michelle and then carry on johnson to end the to end that round do you see that being the order in which they should be drafted what a question next season look at this guy stepping up in the host role here good question better than both those guys. In PPR? I've got Michelle and Lindsey back-to-back in PPR. Michelle's one spot higher. Is it crazy to take James White over Sonny Michelle in PPR?

I like White better than all those guys. I was thrilled when he was there for me. No, I don't think White can replicate last year. He might be better. He had 12 touchdowns last year. Yeah. That's going to be tough to repeat. How many catches did he have?

80, 90? He was 87. He was the seventh best PPR running back, I believe, last year. By the way, the Patriots did run the ball the third most times in the NFL last year, 30 per game. Okay, so that would be, let me just recap here where we're at. First six picks of this round, round four. Lindsey, Diggs, Landry, Derek Henry, Sonny Michel, and Kenny Galladay.

And then Chris Godwin goes next. Andrew Luck, I talked about the Andrew Luck pick on Friday's show. Just unfortunately for Tommy Tran who took Luck there, there just was no run at quarterback after that. You had to wait three more rounds, I think. Oh no, the end of round six. Sorry, two more rounds before the quarterbacks came off

the board. So Luck is the second quarterback off the board, kind of stood out. I took Devontae Freeman, then Marlon Mack, then Jamie took Evan Ingram, and then Kerryon Johnson closes out round four. I think we're okay there. Do you agree with Marlon Mack in between Devontae Freeman and Kerryon Johnson? Yeah, that was a great pick.

That was a little low, to be honest with you. Okay. Brandon Cooks is the first pick of round five. Then Jamie took James White. James White is going to be interesting because he probably Okay. Brandon Cooks is the first pick of round five. Then Jamie took James White. James White is going to be interesting because he probably won't score those touchdowns. Does he get 87 catches?

Seems realistic, right? Why wouldn't he get at least 75? I think that's easy for him if he's healthy I mean who's he talking to right now We'll do some quick math Does it bother you that he's never had more

Than 60 catches in a season until last year No no No it makes sense So how many touchdowns do you want to give James White I'd say 8 Okay I'm fine with 8 And how many catches you want to give James White? I'd say eight. I'm fine with eight. How many catches?

85. 70. Let's say 75. That would have made him I think the number 10 running back in PPR last year instead of number eight. Maybe number 11. Still. We didn't slice his yardage. We sliced

his touchdowns and catches. That's true. We didn't slice his yardage. I think his rushing yards are about the same and I think his receiving total average will be the same. He had 1176 total. If we're going to cut off

12 catches so that's like 15% less. Want to take off 15% of his yardage? No, I think we're getting to... That's 1,000 yards. It's 1,008 with 75 catches. That's a top 15 running back. Cooper Cup is next in round five. Mark Ingram to me, Chris Carson, and then Robbie Anderson.

So we sort of talked about how at this point in the draft, as soon as Cooks and Kup come off the board, and I would imagine in most leagues they're coming off the board before Chris Godwin. We're seeing a drop in tier at wide receiver because Robbie Anderson, Mike Williams, Tyler Boyd, Sammy Watkins, DJ Moore. Not exciting prospects in a lot of cases, but just not proven.

So we are at that point in the draft, and we are about 50 picks in when Brandon Cooks, James White, and Cooper Cup come off the board. Mark Ingram, Chris Carson, Robbie Anderson. Guys, what do you think about Chris Carson here in the middle of round five, round 53rd overall? It's fine. Yep. I think it's okay value,

considering that the running back position peters out real quick here. And Tommy's running backs are, he took Melvin Gordon in round one, and this is his RB2. Melvin Gordon, Travis Kelsey, Amari Cooper, Andrew Luck. That's the pick that kills me. And then Chris Carson. I mean, you give him Marlon Mack instead of Andrew Luck. That's a much better looking squad.

Or Brandon Cooks. Or Carson in five. I think keep Carson. But if he takes Cooks or Cup. Right, right. Okay, keep Carson if you want, sure. But give him Marlon mack instead of andrew luck give him cooks instead of luck but the receiver there sure well okay but the receiver

there all right coca you're on the clock at dave took tevin coleman actually that's a pick that should be discussed we discussed it on friday never mind uh coca you took lamar miller so that was your third running back right yeah yeah so yeah i'm i'm i'm gonna give out a little hot take here but i think lamar miller might be the most disrespected fantasy running back in a while oh so he's here that's good like since since 2014 the guys never Since 2014, the guy's never had a season with less than 178 fantasy points. He's only 27 years old. And now that offense, like we've seen when that offense is hitting at all cylinders, we've seen what that offense can look like with Deshaun Watson's growth,

with DeAndre Hopkins turning into one of the best wide receivers in football. If they have a healthy Will Fuller, like this offense, when they click, they're one of the best in football. So I think Lamar Miller is that guy. It doesn't really look like what DeAndre Foreman. It doesn't really – he's been hurt. He's been injury-plagued. So I think Lamar Miller, being 27 years old, with the fantasy production that he's had consistently over five plus seasons i think him as an rb3 is is a perfect spot to be in what if he was your rb2

i don't think you're gonna see anybody drafting him in that regard unless it's like the tommy situation where you're settling for somebody but i think this is kind of the spot where lamar miller if he still holds the job that's the thing because there are some there is some thought that houston may draft one of the you know guys i don't know it'll be you know josh jacobs with their first pick because they need to address a lot of other things but it could be i've seen that with a couple mock drafts but you could see a situation where um they they do look for somebody there just because not only lamar miller just kind of not necessarily hitting that next level

where I think they thought that that's the kind of guy they were getting when they signed him, but Foreman also coming back to form after the Achilles injury. So they do need to work on their depth there. But, I mean, you're right in one hand that Lamar Miller has just kind of been steady. He just hasn't been sexy. You know, he hasn't had a lot of big production for an offense kind of been steady. He just hasn't been sexy. He hasn't had a lot of big production for an offense that has been explosive. And you also have this offensive line that just needs to be retooled in a big, big way, which they haven't really done much to do so. Yeah, but if you look at the second half of his season,

he had 17, 19, 13, 23, 12, 15 fantasy points, and that's when that offense really looked like we all thought it would all season. He goes underrated. The other aspect of what you brought up is about drafting one of these rookie running backs. And it's just I'm not really afraid of any of them. Like, you know, when Saquon was coming in, you're like, that's a dude you need on your team. Christian McCaffrey, that's a dude you need on your team uh christian mccaffrey that's a dude you need on your team but josh jacobs like you want to talk about sexy names like a running back

who's going to be drafted at the end towards the end of round one like that really drew me and well sony michelle sony michelle was yeah but sony michelle was also a guy coming off of knee injuries and he went okay in the middle toward the middle of fantasy drafts last year. People weren't targeting. No, but it's not about fantasy. It's about the impact on the Texans. Miller's had opportunities. Other than that seven-game stretch in the middle of this season,

middle of last season, he has not been great with the Texans. I don't think he's going to average 4.6 yards per carry again. But I do see your point. I mean, he's a steady running back. He doesn't really catch the ball that much. So, you know, you've got Aaron Jones, Sonny Michel, and Lamar Miller. I don't know if you have a 50-catch running back on your roster, and I do wonder, guys, if you need that this day and age in PPR.

You know, you can't just rely on your wide receivers for catches. You've got to get some from running backs. If there are enough running backs that catch 50 passes, I think you probably want to have one. I don't know if it's imperative. What do you guys think? Depends on the one because, like, I have two that were top 10 in

receptions last year. Now, Jalen Richard is the opposite of James White. You have Zeke and Richard. No, James White and Richard. Forget about Ze the opposite of James White. You have Zeke and Richard. No, James White and Richard. Forget about Zeke. I'm sorry. I meant Zeke and Richard. Richard sucks. No, he doesn't. Jalen Richard is somebody that

if he had scored five touchdowns... Which he never does. He's been in the NFL for two seasons. If he had scored five touchdowns, then you're talking about someone that, if his reception totals stay the same, and we don't know what this backfield's going to look like, this thought is they're going to bring somebody else in.

But if it's Crowell and Richard, Jalen Richard is going to be awesome next year in PPR. So is Antonio Brown. No, he's not going to be awesome. First of all, he's been in the league three years. He has scored three touchdowns. He is just, all he does is catch passes. He does nothing with it.

No. Jalen Rashard, he needs to get some work in the running game and score some touchdowns. Otherwise, he's Duke Johnson. You just said that you need to have a 50-catch running back. Yeah, but you need to have a 50-catch running back that scores. You've got to do something with the 50-catch. Yeah, he's a nothing.

I remember having him. Let's have this conversation again after the draft, and we'll see what they do. They have Crowell. Crowell's their guy. Okay. He is. He's their guy today.

Jalen Rashard is not their guy. Let's have this conversation again about Jalen Rashard after the draft and see what they have. Okay, but Jalen Rashard in his career has one game with more than 10 carries. He had 11 carries one time. That's a career high. I'm almost positive about that. Right.

You're drafting Jalen Rashard for the catches. You're only going to do it in PPR. Which are what? He's going to be on your bench. His catches are going to go up with the addition of Tyra Williams and Antonio Brown? I think not. Okay. I bet it's consistent.

Let's keep going here because we are not getting through enough of this draft. 10 PPR point fill-in. I'd like to get through 10 rounds here. We're in round five. Lamar Miller, Mike Williams, Jared Cook, OJ Howard, and Tyler Boyd. We take OJ Howard over Cook, right?

Yes. Tell me how you feel about this group of receivers. Robbie Anderson, Mike Williams, Tyler Boyd, and then going right into round six, DJ Moore and Sammy Watkins. So Robbie Anderson, Mike Williams, 10 touchdowns last year. Tyler Boyd, DJ Moore, Sammy Watkins. I think Robbie Anderson is going to get a little – I was surprised he went this high

because I thought he was actually going to get overlooked a little bit. I like what's coming out of – the reports coming out of New York about him. I think he's going to actually maybe have a career season. Just depending on if his targets can stay consistent, he can stay healthy. Williams is going to be interesting because you have 65 targets that have to be spread out now with Tyrell Williams gone. Now, you take the 60 or so targets Antonio Gates got also, and so you talk 120 targets between Hunter Henry coming back and then where else do they go?

And I think Mike Williams will see a little bit of a boost. Can he score as much? But he certainly proved himself to be a good red zone threat last year. So I like Mike Williams, but this is a little bit too high. Well, who's your favorite in this group? Anderson, Mike Williams, Tyler Boyd, DJ Moore, Sammy Rockets. I mean, it's actually two guys that went in the sixth round. It's DJ Moore and Dante Pettis.

But I do think that Tyler Boyd, at the end of this round, should have probably gone ahead of both Anderson and Williams based on what he showed last year. I'll take Boyd because the catches count. And I think he's going to be just as much of a factor this year as he was last year. The offense coming in definitely makes room for slots to have a big role. I'm taking Robbie Anderson. I really think this is another one of those things where I look at late in the season

and I see, you know, you see sort of the development of player and quarterback. And I think Sam Darnold takes a nice little leap in year two. He did do that late in the season. And Robbie Anderson is a guy, like, if he can keep his off-field issues at bay, I think he's a guy who can turn into a 1,000-yard receiver by the end of the season. He had one of my favorite quotes so far this offseason. He said, I didn't take any vacation because I didn't earn it last year. So the fact that he seems to be, without getting in trouble,

with saying the right things, doing the right things, upgrading coach, upgrading quarterback or improved quarterback, upgrade talent around him, I think he can have a career season. 46 targets in his last five games. Yeah, and in three of his last four games, he had 76 yards and a touchdown or more. But he had a touchdown in weeks 14, 15, and 16. And then we weren't really surprised. Anderson had a bad game at New England in Week 17.

But we kind of called that because that's what New England does. They shut down number one options. If you do look at it, though, outside of Pettis and Moore, and I guess Lockett also, but just looking at these next two rounds, he's the only number one receiver. Because Boyd's the number two. Williams is the number two. Anderson's the number one guy there.

But you included DJ Moore, right, as number one? Yeah, DJ Moore is the number one guy, but is he a dominant number one guy? Like, I don't know if Anderson will be a dominant number one guy, but he's going to, you know, certainly get more targets than DJ Moore. All right, here's round six. Actually, we'll come back. We're going to take a quick break here on Fantasy Football today when we come back.

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picks of round six kenyan drake dariusis. So the running backs are getting a little, you know, they're flyers. They're not flyers, but they obviously have some downside here. It makes sense. I like Drake in this spot. Right, but there's obviously a downside. Right? I mean, he's not safe. None of these guys are safe.

Drake, Geis, Tyler Lockett, Tococo, Dante Pettis, the Dave. That was one of Jamie's favorite picks. Jarek McKinnon is one of Jamie's least favorite picks. Calvin Ridley, Aaron Rodgers, Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, Matt Ryan. Quarterback run at the end of the round. Four in a row. All right, Koka, you're pretty confident

in Tyler Lockett. He had 71 targets and 10 touchdowns. That's obviously not sustainable. But what do you think? I mean, 57 catches, 965 yards. Do you think he's just a lot more involved in the passing game? I mean, is he going to be close, Tyler Lockett, to like 100 targets in your mind?

Well, I think he's going to have to be, or we should find out shortly if he's going to be because today is decision day for Russell Wilson. And if they're going to spend that much money on Russell Wilson as, you know, 30 million dollars plus, then they're going to have to let him throw the football more. And if we're talking about Doug Baldwin, you know, third offseason surgery, Tyler Lockett is going to be the guy. He's he's always been that safety valve for Russell Wilson like we saw it last year with all these just spectacular catches and all the touchdowns that he had. He was really consistent there. So I think he's a guy who, if you look at the stats, he had 71 targets to 57 receptions. I think he's somebody who you're going to see like a big jump in targets, and that's why I liked him as sort of my flex guy.

And I think it's sort of just matchup dependent too. I think with having the Odell Beckham and having the Michael Thomas as my two main guys, this is someone I can wait and see on and see after the first few weeks, okay, is he getting those targets? Is he getting those receptions? And if he's not, maybe he's that that i can just use as sort of trade bait so i want to ask a question here just a philosophical question right so michael thomas odell beckham aaron jones sony michelle uh lamar miller tyler lockett do you when you do a ppr

draft i mean how concerned are you about catches? I know it might sound like a silly question, but I wonder if the last four picks you've made up at this point, rounds three through six, are low catch guys, even though three of them are running backs, but for their position. And are you, maybe disagree, but are you concerned about that? Was that something that was on your mind? Or you just say, I'm going to take the best player and not worry about that? Well, someone in Tyler Lockett's case, he's one of those guys that I just think is going to get the football more. But if we're talking about the running backs, it's just how many points do touchdowns count as? And it's just you get the six points for touchdowns.

And I think these are – Aaron Jones and Sonny Michel are guys who are going to score more, and they're going to score a lot, and they're going to run the football a lot. So, yeah, I'm going to lose out on those PPR, the bonus points, if you want to call them that. But if I'm getting 13 fantasy points a game plus from Sonny Michel and Aaron Jones, then I'm happy with that. I'm content with that, knowing that in Odell and Michael Thomas that I think I'm going to get anywhere from seven to eight catches a game or something along those lines

from those guys. So I'm not really – I want potential. I want the value. I want to take risks and that's basically how I draft and sometimes I miss on guys and that's why I have Ian Thomas as my tight end. But I just think that Tyler Lockett is going to be one of those guys who's really going to take off this year. Well, let me ask you a question, because you keep throwing out the 50 catch number for running backs and what you think they need to get to. Is there a reception

number for receivers, in your opinion, that has to be like a minimum to feel safe? Because like guys like Tyler Lockett and Mike Williams and, you know, throwing like a Wolf Fuller or, you know, lesser scale like Deshaun Jackson and Tyrell Williams, guys that don't obviously catch a lot of passes. But you're hoping that they're I don't know if eight is the number, but, you know, around eight touchdowns per season, you know, and maybe close to a thousand yards where the big play potential is what carries them. Is there a number at the receiver position for you that you say this is the number I want to sort of achieve? No, not necessarily. 70? I think if a guy is not going to catch 70 passes.

I had 75 in my mind is what you're going to say, so 70 makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, but I actually... If he gets 70, 1,100, and eight touchdowns from Tyler Lockett. Yeah. Yeah, but I actually... If he gets 70, 1,100, and eight touchdowns from Tyler Lockett.

Yep. Well, that's... Yeah, I mean, that's an amazing season. It's a great season for him in terms of receptions, but... Yeah.

Right. I mean, that would be a great season. I think I concern myself more with catches when it comes to running backs. I'm at that point now where, you know, the game has changed to the point where you just

have a lot of running backs that do catch a lot of balls. And in a PPR league, if you don't have one, you might be at a disadvantage. This is a topic that this is just off the top of my head, so I have to really dig into it. But I do consider that on draft day. And because on this team I have Christian McCaffrey, that makes up for a lot of it. He's getting 100 catches most likely. But you don't

like Jalen, I'm sure. Because he doesn't do anything with it. He's just like, he's just such a nothing. He's just such a nothing. Okay. Moving on. Keep going here in the draft. Where are we? Round 7. The last four picks of round 6 were Aaron Rodgers,

Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, and Matt Ryan. We go to Eric Ebron to start round 7. Jamie Took, Josh Jacobs, who'd you take there? Josh Jacobs. Alan Robinson, Hunter Henry.

I took the starting running back for the Texans. The Texans. Hunter Henry, Will Fuller, and Ido Smith. Eric Ebron, Danny Woodhead, Alan Robinson, Hunter Henry, Will Fuller, Ido Smith. No, Josh Jacobs, not Danny Woodhead. Oh my god, right. Eric Ebron, Josh Jacobs.

I'm Ron Burgundy here. I'll read whatever's in front of me. So we draft Danny Woodhead as a placeholder for Josh Jacobs. Yeah, I took Hunter Henry because I really wanted a tight end with a lot of potential. Talked about that on Friday's show. Will Fuller, Ido Smith.

Dave, your pick was Alshon Jeffrey in this round. Coca took Russell Wilson. Then we had Jordan Howard, Kiki QT, Isaiah Crowell, and Jay Ajayi. So I know, Dave, you didn't like Crowell and Ajayi. How did you feel about Jordan Howard?

Where are we in the draft? Like 82nd overall, 80th overall, something like that? Well, it's completely different. Jordan Howard, in the case of Ajayi, he's not on a team. I can't take him at this point. Jordan Howard, I think, has a chance to remain the lead back for Philadelphia to at least begin the season, at least the first quarter of the season. I think Crowell could get replaced pretty quickly.

I don't think Isaiah – If they don't draft someone? If they don't draft – first of all, I fully expect them to draft someone. Sure. If they don't, he's going to face competition in camp from the other guys that they have. Not that the other guys are amazing talents themselves. We'll see what they have in Chris Warren. But I would be surprised

if Isaiah Crowell became a bigger factor than Jordan Howard will be in Philadelphia. Yeah, Howard's better. I don't have a problem with Crowell at this spot if he's the guy in Oakland. As in the first and second down guy. He's the first and second down guy all season long.

Yeah, this is a perfect spot for him. It's probably a steal if that's what he is. Okay. I just don't know how many people are banking on that. I'm going to do one more round here. I'm going to say a name, and you just tell me good pick or bad pick. Marvin Jones. We're in round eight.

Marvin Jones. Great pick. Yeah. Coco, you feel free to're in round eight. Marvin Jones. Great pick. Coco, you feel free to jump in there as well. Latavius Murray. Good pick. This is round eight? I think you could have waited one more round. Well, probably not because this is

23 picks away from his next pick. 22 picks. Did he have to have Latavius Murray? Does he also have Alvin Kamara? No. I don't understand the rush to get Latavius Murray then. Okay. David Njoku.

Too soon. Good pick. Larry Fitzgerald. Great pick. Very good pick. Okay. Kokuto Curtis Samuel. Oh, wonderful pick. Wonderful pick. Very good pick. Okay. Coca took Curtis Samuel. Oh, wonderful pick.

Wonderful pick. A plus. I thought it was a little too small. Was that a rookie receiver? Just Curtis Samuel as a placeholder? Wow. Wow. That's how we feel?

I was surprised. I just called me by surprise, Curtis Samuel. Coca, you have 20 seconds. Tell me where you were. 10 seconds. What were you thinking there? He's just another guy that I thought potential. I just look at these guys and look at the numbers that they put up towards the end of the season

and these nice late-season stretches, and I think that's sort of what I'm basing some of these picks on. And because Christian McCaffrey isn't going to catch that many footballs again. Okay. I'm only laughing because that was Adam's guy. And I just said he was going to catch 100 passes. We did this draft, and I know this isn't

an obvious thing about him on its own, but Chris Hogan joining the Panthers, that impacts these guys in some capacity. You know, it's like a couple catches a game. If he plays 16 games from DJ Moore and from Curtis Samuel, would you feel as comfortable Curtis Samuel here still?

Yeah, Chris Hogan, he's just another guy that doesn't scare me. And I just think that they can do so many more creative things with Curtis Samuel. Like I think they were finally figuring out how to use him in this offense and how to alleviate some of the pressure off of Christian McCaffrey. I think that they're going to be able to build on that. He could be a guy who gets

a couple carries a game. He could be a guy who they could put in the backfield and throw him the football like they've done with McCaffrey. Even based off Hogan signing, I'm still not concerned. All right, Samuel had 72 or more yards in three of his last five games. He had four touchdowns in his last eight games.

So he did come on strong, and that is obviously something that is important to Matthew Koka. No problem there. All right, Carlos Hyde, good pick or bad pick? Dave Richard, your pick? It was a necessary pick. So for me it was a good pick. I think if you didn't need Carlos Hyde, it would or bad pick? Dave Richard, your pick. It was a necessary pick. So for me, it was a good pick. I think if you didn't need Carlos Hyde, it would have been a bad pick.

I think it's a good pick. And he and Latavius Murray are very similar. They're going to be, I think, impactful at some point during the season. In Hyde's case, it could be more so than a lot of the guys that went here because I'm not a Damien Williams believer in finishing the season because he's had 50 career carries, 50 carries in a season or his career high. Christian Kirk. Great pick.

Yeah, good pick. LeSean McCoy. Good pick. Good pick. Doug Baldwin. I'll say it's a good pick. Too soon. This lead, it's a good pick. That's my pick. Come on. It's a great pick Too soon That's my pick

Come on it's a great pick What are you Will Brinson Yeah so we're supposed to be done with the show right now But we're not And I have to babysit So I'm going to hold my kid here For the end of the show Come on put him on the air

He's got his little Sophie toy Golden Tate I thought that was a very good pick Too soon how he does. Put him on the air. Come say hi. He's got his little Sophie toy. Golden Tate. I thought that was a very good pick. Too soon. Too soon? Come on. We're more than

93 picks in. 94 picks. In a PPR, I'm fine with Golden Tate here. Okay, give me a wide receiver you would have taken after Golden Tate.

Allison and Corey Davis. Mike Davis to Jamie. Good pick. Can I ask a question real quick about the Bears? Is this a team that you could see taking a running back? Yes. No.

They don't have enough draft capital. Sterling Shepard. They will add another running back that weekend. Maybe it's an undrafted guy. If they don't, then they're kind of telling you what direction they want to go in, which is a lot of pass heavy. They have no first round pick, no second round pick,

no sixth round pick. It's going to be tough. But they also don't have many needs. So I think they're going to go best available with a lot of these picks. Do you think Mike Davis is going to be that guy? I love Mike Davis. He's one of my favorite sleepers this year. And Sterling Shepard, last pick of round eight. Two picks after Golden Tate.

Too soon. I'm not a Sterling guy. The Giants really lock up both of those guys with long-term deals. That would be great. All right, so that's eight rounds of our draft. And who were some of the rookie-wide receivers that were taken later, Jamie? DK Metcalf, Nikhil Harry. I think there was like seven of them.

Were there seven receivers taken? I know that Hakeem Butler got taken. I know that Marquise Brown. I believe it was Metcalf and then Brown. Was there a receiver ahead of him? Metcalf, Brown, A.J. Brown. Sorry, Marquise Brown, A.J. Brown. And then Nikhil Harry I know was taken.

Hakeem Butler was taken. And I think that might have been it. Butler went before Harry. How about running backs? Harry was the last rookie receiver taken. Dave took Miles Sanders in the last round. That was my last pick. Okay, the results are on the website.

Check it out. And let's recap our teams. Koka, tell us about your team and what you like and what you didn't like. Well, Robbie Anderson was one of the guys that I just missed out on drafting, and that's how I got into the whole Lamar Miller situation. But what we didn't talk about is on my bench I have Duke Johnson and I have Deion Lewis. And I think if we're looking for – you know, Azar, you brought up having a 50 reception running back on my team. We didn't get to talk about Deion Lewis, and I think he's another dude who, you know, what is this Titans offense? I don't know.

I don't really know what it is, and they're bringing in another offensive coordinator. So are they going to give this guy the football? Are they going to throw him the football and use him like the Patriots did? Or are they still going to look like the sloppy Titans that we've seen for how many seasons in a row? I'm nervous about the Titans. They promoted their tight ends coach who's kind of been a hanger on with the franchise for a while. He's going to use somebody else's playbook.

And I think they really want to try and just grind it out with Derek Henry. I think they're going to ride Henry. I think they're starting to get a little nervous about what they have in Marcus Mariota. How far off are Dion Lewis and Duke Johnson from Jalen Rashard, being that they are 50-catch candidates, but what can they do with the 50 catches? Duke, I think, is a great pick now because if he gets traded

and gets traded to a situation that could be an upgrade, because it's a downgrade right now. Look, he's got eight games to be the number two guy and then half a season to be the number three guy most likely. So if they can somehow flip him for value and he ends up in a spot where he can sort of become that

pass catching back for a certain team, then I think you're in a great spot. So I actually liked it when you made that pick. I thought that was very smart. And the other thing with the Deion Lewis, Jalen Rashard thing is Lewis had 155 carries last year. So he's getting the football way more than Rashard is. So even if he's not doing everything he can with those catches, he's still getting the ball to him.

One of the guys I want to ask about is Zay Jones. He's one of the late wide receivers that I picked up on. And I think you guys can sense the trend that I'm going with, which is like – Crappy players. Yeah, yeah. Crappy players. Late search yeah. Crappy players. Late search. Or the late players you're going to cut in the first two weeks of the season.

The late season blooms. He had a 24-point game, a 17-point game. He was very good Tennessee. Well, he crushed Miami, which is where two of his games were. But it's just, you know, what do you guys think of that Buffalo offense? Because one of the guys I really wanted to take was Robert Foster. Didn't you like him last year? Yeah.

Yeah. He's one of those guys that I think he can burst out onto the scene. But adding John Brown is certainly a detractor to both of them. As a Ravens fan, I could attest to John Brown. You should love John Brown with Joe Flacco. You should hate John Brown with Lamar Jackson. Yeah. I think that they're trying to find speedy receivers

that they can just keep rolling out play after play as an outlet for Josh Allen if a play breaks down. And then they've got short area targets like Zay Jones, who I think can handle that role. Cole Beasley was added. He's obviously a good slot receiver that Josh Allen could check down to. So they don't really have that. I'm going to sign off, guys.

You guys can finish out without me. Thank you. He's got the baby on his lap. The cat is. It's okay. I want you guys to talk about your team. We got about five minutes left. So go ahead and recap your teams.

Yeah, my child's freaking out right now. He does not like Zay Jones, but I have Aaron Rodgers, Christian McCaffrey and Devante Freeman, T.Y. H like Zay Jones, but I have Aaron Rodgers, Christian McCaffrey, and Devontae Freeman, T.Y. Hilton, and Mike Evans, Hunter Henry, Mark Ingram, or Geronimo Allison, or Doug Baldwin at Flex. I like my team a lot because I

have a great quarterback in Rodgers. I have potentially a great tight end in Hunter Henry. I have a 100-catch or let's say 90-catch Christian McCaffrey, Evans, and Hilton, who I got in rounds two and three. I like Devontae Freeman. I was happy with my team and I took the Bears. I took the Bears

DST. I was the first one to take a DST. I do that a lot because I feel like at the end of the draft the players, they're interchangeable. So in our drafts, nobody takes defenses early, so I took the Bears and I was happy to do it. You don't have to do that. I think you do and I was happy to do it. You don't have to do that. I think you do.

I mean... You do what you want. What did I take them in? Like round 13 out of 15? 12. So, anyway, 11. Okay, not as early as I thought. Anyway,

Jamie and Dave, talk about your teams, and we will talk to you guys later in the week. So bye for me. Go ahead. Interesting way for him to go out here. I'll go with my team next. I like it. Jared Goff is the quarterback.

Nick Chubb, Damian Williams at running back are starters for me. It's a risky pick. Williams, easily the riskiest pick that I made, but I feel good about what I have around him. Not only do I have his backup on my bench in Carlos Hyde, but my receivers are DeAndre Hopkins, Kenny Galladay. I'm going to get by with Chris Herndon as my tight end to begin the season. I've got options at flex between Dante Pettis, Tevin Coleman, and Alshon Jeffrey. I've got Rashad Penny on my bench for when he takes over for Chris Carson, if he takes over for Chris Carson.

A couple of rookie running backs, Damian Harris, Miles Sanders. Big surprise. My bench is loaded with running backs, Texans, ZST, and I have a kicker. Jamie. I took Ezekiel Elliott in round one, and then I decided I was going to take two receivers with Tyree Kill and Antonio Brown in my next two picks. Evan Ingram in round four, then James White in round five.

I mentioned this on the show last week that I was going to take – I'm not going to just continue to reach for backup running backs or backup receivers, but I don't have to. So I took Deshaun Watson in round six, and then I took a couple rookie running backs along the way with Josh Jacobs and David Montgomery. I love Mike Davis

where I was able to get him. I love Jalen Richard because I think he's got the chance to be a little bit better in terms of his fantasy production with the same reception total. I think he'll score a couple touchdowns. We talked about the pick I regretted, which was Corey Davis over Jeronimo Allison last week. I love getting Devin

Funchess in the double-digit round because I think he's got the potential to be this year's Eric Ebron as the guy that goes through the Colts car wash and has a much better season and maybe his best season ever. And I took with one of my last picks was Emmanuel Sanders

who has the chance to if healthy be a steal I think on the 13th round so I was happy about that I think the receiver depth you built was great I'd love to spend another 4 or 5 minutes on Devin Funches but I'm getting the high sign from daddy that we gotta wrap it up so from Adam Acer for Adam Acer

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