Fantasy Football Today - 04/19 Fantasy Football Podcast: David Johnson 10th Overall?
Episode Date: April 19, 2018Among the many topics we cover today is the draft stock of David Johnson and why Heath is slightly hesitant to use a Top 10 pick on him. First we'll hear an interesting auction strategy from Jamey (1:...50), discuss the merits of drafting multiple TEs (8:22) and give our thoughts on the CHI backfield (13:55) ... Rankings disputes! David Johnson (17:00), Chris Carson (22:28), Juju Smith-Schuster (22:55) and Alshon Jeffery (27:43) ... The NFL Draft wish list for every AFC team from the AFC East (31:20) to the AFC North (34:50) to the AFC South (39:13) to the AFC West (42:02). And stay tuned for a rare bathroom story at the end of the show (58:30) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Okay, a little bit of NFL draft talk, a little bit of rankings talk,
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What's up? We welcome you to Fantasy Football Today. The four of us are here. I am Adam Azer.
Dave is here. Hi, Dave Richard.
What up, yo?
Oh, feeling good, man. A week till the draft. I'm excited. I know you guys did a mock draft on HQ. We'll talk about that.
Hello, Jamie Eisenberg.
Hello, Adam Azer.
Okay, Heath. Bring the fun. Heath Cummings. Really, Jamie Eisenberg. Hello, Adam Azer. Okay, Heath.
Bring the fun.
Heath Cummings.
Really glad I was able to fit you in today.
What do you mean?
It's been a while since we've talked.
It is.
We're putting your rankings to the test.
We're going to look at your rankings of David Johnson, of Chris Carson, of Juju Smith-Schuster,
and of Alshon Jeffrey.
They are fairly different than what we see from David and Jamie.
Wait, wait.
Stop there.
I want to ask Heath a rankings question.
Heath, where did you rank you Darvish before the season?
Below where Adam had him.
Well, I mean, Adam had him like top three.
Right.
There's only one place to go.
I think I had him around 14 or so.
Adam had him at the top three starting pitcher.
I know you guys took him.
Yeah, no, that's false, false.
Over Garrett Gold.
Nobody would have known.
I know.
Thank you, Dave.
And let me just say that basically rule number one, not rule number one, but rule number
like four of this podcast and all the podcasts that I host, all two of them, no inside jokes.
I say it over and over and over again.
So if you hear any inside jokes in this podcast, it's not my fault.
It's typically Jamie's fault.
I pointed the finger squarely at Jamie.
All right, Jamie, you mentioned-
That's a heck of a finger you're choosing to point at him.
Are you sullying my name?
Yes.
Jamie, you mentioned – you teased an auction strategy that you were going to talk about.
Are you prepared to talk about an auction strategy?
Sure.
I can BS my way through it.
I had a conversation with one of our coworkers uh co-workers here michael kaiser and
he goes by michael when he wants to be formal and in our auction last year he left 33 on the table
of a hundred dollar budget his team was fairly competitive i don't know how the playoffs okay
so even better so he made the playoffs um i don't know how in um on on top of his waiver moves he was during the season,
but clearly he could have probably had a better team if he spent that $33 on some high-profile players.
But in the course of the conversation about his team from a year ago,
we started talking about could you just get away with,
clearly it's easy to spend $1 or maybe $2 on quarterback, tight end, kicker, defense,
based on at least how our auctions have gone the last few years.
We found a lot of value.
Quarterback, you know you can do it certainly at kicker and defense,
and then you take a flyer on one of the tight end.
But what if you just did that, and then instead of spending on guys,
you took $5 in that range and just tried to make sure you lock up all of the hot button rookies or late round potential guys and just filled your team that way.
So just all upside.
But it's obviously easy to say upside, but I'm I'm I'm looking at guys that are on talented roster.
The conversation I was like, could you look at Smith Schuster on the Steelers because it's a high-profile passing game, passing attack,
and if he gets an opportunity, he could be good.
Alvin Kamara as the third running back for the Saints, could he be good?
Just taking shots on all those guys on good teams that may or may not get an opportunity.
You're talking about those guys as they were rookies, not now.
Well, you're looking for this year's version of those.
The potential, obviously this year's version,
but like the retread guys too that may still have some value.
So could you get, let's say, Josh Doxson or Jamison Crowder,
who could be the number one guy in Washington,
and just take five running backs, five receivers that way,
and just build a team in that direction?
Could you have success?
Where...
I don't think it's the easy way.
No, it's not the easy way.
It's not a simple strategy.
Wait, where are you spending big?
You're not.
You're not.
Never?
You're going to have so much money left over.
Then I don't like it.
That's the thing.
Could you get away with not spending money in an auction?
I guess that was the strategy.
Yeah, that is a strategy.
Yeah, that sounds like the dumbest strategy ever.
Yeah, this is terrible.
I think – but you could do a hybrid of like if you have all that money left over.
I think it was just the – I just got finished talking about it.
So when I was thinking about it, it was more would it be fun to do it?
Not necessarily as a good strategy.
Well, I mean if you want to –
Let's say you've got a $100 budget.
You're going to give up a buck on a quarterback, a buck on a DST, a buck on a kicker, and a buck on a tight end.
$96, $95.
So you've got all that left over divided by 10 spots.
What if you only spent 30 of it?
I mean, is it a dare?
Do I get a prize?
You can do this, Jamie.
Could you be successful?
You can do this, but you have that money spent.
God, why do I keep saying that?
Left over.
You could obviously spend it
on really good players. You could get
two really good players and then do
that strategy. That could work.
That's not as fun. I don't know.
I think that could be fun.
I think we need Kaiser on the podcast.
You spend $25 on
a wide receiver, $30 on a running back, and then
you splurge $30-ish on another running
back. So you've got $ 85 tied up and three stud players.
You have $15 left for the rest of your life.
That's already a strategy.
People do that.
People do that.
Right.
That's fun.
I want to do the more fun approach and just see if you could be successful just taking
players like crap.
Yeah.
Okay.
Great.
So, hey, vote for us for podcast awards next time that's out
because these five minutes have been award-winning stuff.
Here's an email of the day from Brandon at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com.
I'm thinking I probably should have asked Jamie what the strategy was
before I made it the lead of the show.
No, no, no.
I got a better tease for next show.
Wait until this one.
Jamie's got a kicker strategy he's going to give us.
All right, here's the email from Brandon.
We do our wish list.
Wish list.
Brandon wants to know, are you guys going to predict the top ten picks for a spot in the podcast league thing this year?
Yes, we are.
All right, so what is that?
Well, you want in the podcast league?
This is your first opportunity.
Let us know who you think the top ten picks of the upcoming NFL draft are going to be
and has to be in the right order.
So one, Josh Allen, or whoever you think it's going to be.
Two, Barkley, whatever.
It doesn't matter which team takes them.
Just the order.
The winner will probably get seven right, something like that.
Most people will probably get three or four right. It's a two-part thing. Part one is this. Yes,
I want to know who you think will be the top 10 picks. Part two, more importantly,
people have tweeted me or emailed me and said there is a better way to do it than the way I
currently do it, which is having everybody send an email and then I go through hundreds of emails.
It takes forever.
So if you could first tell me the more efficient way to do it, like maybe a Google Doc or something that I could share,
then yes, please email me with that information or tweet me, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com,
or you can tweet at Adam Azer, A-I-Z-E-R.
If you can think of a better, more efficient way that will save me hours i would really love you for that it's on par with my
auction strategy oh stop stop but this is going to be good everybody should leave their top 10 in
order on the voicemail and then just listen to them have to write them all down i was thinking
as a strategy for this contest what if people just picked the top five and didn't send the other five?
Do you think they could win that way?
That's brilliant.
For their top five, just pick guys that are probably going to be drafted in like the fifth round.
Yeah, so if you could help me out with that, that would be great.
And then I would say send in your top ten picks emails Monday or later, okay?
It doesn't really matter when you send them.
You want the most information you can get, so you should wait.
But, yes, we will do that.
The email address is fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
We're going to do another podcast on Monday.
At that point, I will announce the final details of the contest and how to enter.
Now, email of the day number two.
When is the cutoff?
Thursday morning?
Yeah, Thursday morning before the draft.
Email of the day number two is from Greg.
Greetings, Robert, Travis, Zachariah, and Evan.
Okay, Greg.
Tight ends.
They are?
Those are my top four tight ends.
Oh, Gronkowski, Kelsey, Zachariah, Ertz, and Evan Ingram.
12-team PPR, 16 draft spots.
In a recent podcast, someone alluded to a strategy I've considered.
I've in the past taken an elite-level tight end in the first six rounds.
It's paid off.
But this year, I'm considering waiting on a tight end,
utilizing my first six picks on running back and wide receiver,
and I want to take two tight ends in the last half of the draft
with the hope that at least one will break out,
maybe a combination of O.J. Howard and George Kittle, Trey Burton, or even a rookie.
I feel like this rookie tight end class is another good one
and could produce another Evan Ingram.
I took Ingram in the 16th round last year.
So Greg's strategy is first six picks are running backs and wide receivers.
He hasn't talked about quarterback, but that's obviously later.
And then late in the draft, two tight ends with upside.
What do you guys think?
I like it, but I would prefer just generally saying that taking two tight ends is a good idea this year.
I think the position is deep enough to where you can do it.
One of them will be a late pick.
Another one, you can have two late round picks as tight ends, or you can get one early
and then just earmark a bench spot for another one later. You're going to hear a lot of people talk about drafting two quarterbacks this year and i
don't have a problem with that either except when the time comes to where one of the other owners
in your league needs a quarterback the trade market isn't going to be that strong he won't
have to give up that much because there's going to be three or four other teams in the league
that have a backup quarterback to deal.
So because I think more people are going to do it.
So having a backup tight end and having one that hits, that'll get you more in trade or it'll give you a second starter for your team or a first starter tight end if your other tight end sucks.
And I think this is a great year to give that a shot.
OK, I don't really know about the rookies.
There's probably only one that we're going to be looking at
Dallas Goddard
Who's out of South Dakota State
And I do want to ask you guys
Can you name the tight ends
In the 2013 draft class
2013?
Yeah
Is that Ibram?
This has got to be one of the greatest tight end drafts ever
2013 That's Kelsey Ertz Is that Ebron? This has got to be one of the greatest tight end drafts ever.
2013.
That's Kelsey, Ertz.
Yep.
Who else?
Two more big ones.
So these guys are entering their fifth year.
Yeah, who was the first one taken?
Before Kelsey, before Ertz.
Was it the Ebron year?
No.
It was 2014. It was Tyler Eifert was one.
Zach Ertz, two.
Who is one of those late-round sleepers, by the way, believe it or not.
Yeah.
Like, final round.
Like, it's my last pick.
I've already taken the kicker in a defense.
What the hell?
Eifert, Ertz.
Exactly.
Gavin Escobar was the third tight end.
Vance McDonald was the fourth.
And then Travis Kelsey.
And then Jordan Reed.
But none of those guys finished as top 15 tight ends.
It's very rare to see what Evan Ingram did.
He was top five last year.
The year before that, Hunter Henry was 11th in standard but 19th in PPR.
It's pretty rare to have a must-start tight end as a rookie.
All right, thank you for the question.
Don't overlook Hayden Hurst, though, as a rookie tight end.
Like everything else, it's going to come down to fit.
News and notes.
Tom Brady, according to ESPN, is not committed to playing this season.
Do you guys make a lot of this?
Okay, I get it.
Le'Veon Bell did not report for the Steelers' voluntary offseason program.
There was a report today that probably is not true
that said that the Browns could draft two quarterbacks
with their first two picks, which are one and four.
I brought that up when we interviewed Nathan Zagura,
and I think, Heath, I think they should do it.
I think they should draft two quarterbacks.
I think they should draft two quarterbacks as well.
I do not think that they should use their first two picks to do that.
I believe they should use one of their first two picks and then
take one later in the draft.
Okay, fine. The Giants
drafting Saquon Barkley second overall
feels inevitable, according to Todd
McShay. Reminder that the Giants
added left tackle Nate Solder and
guard Patrick Omame this offseason.
And Dave and Jamie, you guys
just got off CBS Sports HQ
while you pre-recorded a segment
where you're doing a mock draft with some of our nfl experts um did barclay go second to the giants
i know he fell to uh 22 nobody wanted him he did he went to the giants you know there's more giants
news on top of this oh right, right. They cut Brandon Marshall.
Oh, yeah.
That guy.
Yeah.
Does that open a door for Dez Bryant?
Do Odell and Dez play on the same team?
Probably not.
Right?
I don't think so either, but it's kind of fun to think about.
I sound creepy when I whisper.
Would you guys like that destination for Saquon?
It's not my favorite of the three teams in the top seven that he can go to.
Or maybe I guess four.
I don't think he's going to Cleveland personally,
but I would much rather see him in Indianapolis or Tampa Bay.
If you build it, they will come.
The Dolphins are expected to pick up Devontae Parker's fifth-year option,
according to the Palm Beach Post.
Tampa Bay linebacker Kendall Beckwith, he was in a car accident.
He needs ankle surgery and might miss the start of the season, and we hope not.
Speedy recovery, Kendall Beckwith.
And then this is interesting.
Matt Nagy, the Bears head coach, said that Jordan Howard will be the featured back.
He also said he will move Tariq Cohen around, and he said that Kevin White has a big ceiling.
But let's talk about Jordan Howard,
who actually has been a top 12 running back two years.
No, top 10.
He was ninth as a rookie.
He was 10th last year in standard.
He was ninth in PPR and 14th in PPR in his two years.
So what do you make of that,
that he's got a vote of confidence from his head coach, Jamie?
I don't think there's any other choice but to support him
because he's going to be their starting running back.
But he also said they're going to use Tariq Cohen and kind of make him Tariq Hill.
So I think you're going to see both guys get work.
Jordan Howard should get a lot of carries again,
and I think he's a very safe number two running back.
When you say he's going to
make terry cohen tyreek hill do you believe that terry cohen's going to get the type of workload
that tyreek hill got last year no no no but they're going to use him in different ways they're
going to be creative with him i mean they're going to use him as a receiver they'll use him as a
running back catching passes so he's going to get plenty of touches i think he's more like uh rookie
year tyreek hill where he was more involved in the running game, didn't get as many targets.
That dude still was pretty good.
Yeah, Tyreek Cohen's pretty good.
Hopefully it's not the Anthony Thomas, because that could also be a situation.
Or Dexter McCluster.
Or Dexter McCluster.
Can we go back to the Le'Veon Bell thing?
Wait, well, I want to talk about Jordan Howard, but sure.
Go to Le'Veon Bell.
Do you want to finish on Jordan Howard?
Do you want to go back to my auction strategy?
I want to discuss that.
Yeah, let's wrap up.
Jamie, what if I want to spend $2?
No, no, no, that's too much money.
Let's wrap up. Jamie, what if I want to spend $2? No, no, no. That's too much money. Let's wrap up Howard.
Is there a chance that the Steelers draft a running back with their late first-round pick or second-round pick?
I thought we were doing Howard.
Bug us.
He's boring.
Maybe they trade for Jordan Howard.
Oh, boy.
Well, yeah.
I mean, they definitely could invest in running back.
This could be the last year for Le'Veon Bell on this course.
But there's a difference between investing in a running back and using a big pick on a running back.
They need so much defensive power.
I agree.
There's no way.
I totally agree.
Maybe in the second round or third round, but not in the first round.
There's so much talent in this draft.
And they did it last year.
They got James Conner.
Who had trouble staying healthy.
Yeah.
It's kind of messy.
Even if they did take a running back, let's say in round two,
would you ever think that it would eat into the workload of Le'Veon Bell?
Depends on how good that running back is, really. The only way I would get concerned about the workload of Le'Veon Bell
is if they sign him to a longer-term deal.
On a year-to-year basis, they have no reason to do anything other
but just run him into the ground.
Yeah.
Okay.
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Alright Heath
Let's put your rankings
Under the microscope
David Johnson Now very similar Where you have him ranked up yeah there you go all right heath let's put your rankings under the microscope david johnson
now very similar where you have him ranked uh compared to dave and jamie if you just look at
running backs but if you look at top 200 you have david johnson as your number 11 overall player
he's up to number 10 he moved up today he's moving on up number 10 david johnson whereas
dave and jamie have johnson fourth uh dave has johnson sixth and
ppr you got the wide receivers going ahead um but yeah number 10 david johnson he's not gonna go
that late i listened to this podcast um has really really good auction strategies and a very smart
host and this host is always providing good information about how difficult it is to be an elite running back on a really bad team.
And I'm kind of worried the Arizona Cardinals are going to be a really bad team.
Okay.
Listen carefully to the host's argument.
Let's talk about that then.
Yeah, because I did – I came prepared to discuss this.
Jamie, what would you like to say about this running back?
No, no, no.
I mean your argument is if the guy catches passes, he's still okay.
So, yeah, in PPR, definitely.
So this is what's happened over the last four years.
Let's say we want David Johnson to be a top five running back.
Because without going through all the numbers, clearly he can be a top ten running back.
For example, Jordan Howard has done it twice in a row. And I have him fifth at running back. Okay. Now, do we want him to be a top ten running back. For example, Jordan Howard has done it twice in a row.
And I have him fifth at running back.
Okay.
Now, do we want him to be a top five running back?
Yes.
Everybody who drafts him is probably drafting him as a top five running back.
Can he be a top five running back on a really bad offense?
Over the last four years, 2014, Matt Forte did it.
2015 was the weirdest running back year ever
And a lot, like Todd Gurley did it
Devontae Freeman did it
Like a bunch of running backs did it
That year like barely counts
It was so weird
2016 to 2017, not even close
DeMarco Murray was a top five running back in 2016
He was on the worst scoring offense of the top five running backs
They were 14th
And last year, Melvin Gordon was on the worst offense of the top five running backs,
and they were 13th.
Now, without going through it again, if you look at the notes, I broke it down.
Most of the top five running backs are on really, really good offenses.
So, yes, Heath, I share your concerns about David Johnson finishing as a top five running back,
specifically in standard scoring,
and specifically because the team could be so bad. And to be clear, I have him ranked as a top five running back.
I've got him fifth.
I just don't feel as certain about him as I do that first
and really second tier of wide receivers.
So I don't necessarily – I think I have him behind one running back that Dave and Jamie don't, and that's Kareem Hunt.
But I have him in the top 200 behind a lot of wide receivers
that they have him ahead of.
I just feel more confident in the production of those wide receivers.
Guys, what do you think?
Dave, Jamie?
Well, I'm going to reserve the right to change my mind after the draft.
I want to see what the Cardinals do first.
I'm nervous about that team.
Nervous about any team that's got
Sam Bradford at quarterback and
the backup is Mike Lennon.
It's not good. Not good. And the offensive line,
definitely they're getting some guys back
who are healthy.
I'm worried about them too. I almost feel
like you have to buy into David Johnson
as a pass catcher and almost expect
him to get you
goodness probably along the lines of 35 to 40 receiving yards a game in order for him to
get to that level of where you're drafting him as a number one running back but
he's the main guy in the offense he's got fresh, as fresh as you can get, because he didn't play last year.
Remember, he sat out the season because of a wrist injury.
And, you know, Belkow running backs, he's going to get a lot of work.
It's going to come back the other way, provided he stays healthy.
The Rams defense is going to be tough, but the rest of the division I don't think is that dangerous for him as a running back.
The schedule, everybody's schedule is going to be bad this year.
No one's going to have a cakewalk of a schedule.
And I think David Johnson on volume, on catches, and on goal line work
will get you what you want in fantasy,
and that's why you'll take him with the top five pick.
You said how many receiving yards a game?
About 35 or so.
So he averaged almost 60 two years ago, so I think he'll do that rather easily.
I love his role, his touches.
I don't see that changing.
He may have a tougher time to get to 20 total touchdowns.
That's not realistic.
Will he be 2,000 total yards like he was two years ago?
That's probably not realistic.
But 1,500 total yards for a guy that's as talented as he is.
And as we saw in his rookie season when I believe he had the fastest play in the league
on, I think it was a kickoff return.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, he's a difference maker.
And so it may not be as pretty as it was two years ago or the expectations that it was
from last year because of what's around him.
But, you know, A, to what Dave said, you know, I don't think it's fair to fully judge what
the Cardinals are right now because they could still go get a quarterback who could maybe
be the starter.
Because I think if they draft somebody in the first round, whether they move up to get,
let's say, Lamar Jackson or maybe somebody better if somebody falls, that could change
the tenor of what this team looks like.
And I just think he's just an elite talent.
And so I'll always buy into an elite
talent before I see what the finished product is. All right. Next ranking is about a Seahawks
running back, Chris Carson. Firmly a low-end number two for Dave and Jamie in standard.
Jamie's got him lower, 29th in PPR. Heath is basically not even considering Chris Carson
right now. 39th in standard, 50th in PPR.
Heath, why do you hate Chris Carson with so much passion?
Well, the difficult part of the exercise is trying to decide before the draft who a team starting running back is.
And when I went through and did that with the Seahawks,
I decided it was pretty much Russell Wilson.
This team's defense is not going to be good.
The entire game plan, I can't see another game plan besides Russell Wilson running around like crazy
and throw crazy passes 40 times a game.
And I don't – Chris Carson's had one good game in the NFL.
He had injury problems in high school.
He tore an ACL.
He had injury problems in college.
He had an injury problem last year.
And he's not currently – he's in a competition for the starting job.
So I just – I don't really have a lot of interest in that.
But he's in a competition with who?
Mike Davis.
Okay.
So it's not.
I mean, it's a seventh round draft.
He's a seventh round draft pick.
He's not, he's not David Johnson.
And Mike Davis was okay.
He looked okay when he had chances to play.
He didn't have very many big games, that's for sure.
I'm a big Chris Carson fan.
I think the Seahawks are going to have to spend their draft capital
at positions other than running back.
It's going to take somebody else coming in there who looks as good,
if not better, than Chris Carson for me to move him down.
But I don't know that it's going to take someone else coming in there
for him to not be good in fantasy.
Because they could go with someone else.
Or they could just not be able to run the ball again.
Right.
Is that a concern?
You know, it could be like the Lions.
It doesn't matter who the lead back is.
You're never getting good production in the past.
It could be just really the Giants, right?
But Carson, I don't know.
I guess that's what you're kind of thinking, Heath,
is they're just not going to have a good running game.
I don't expect they're going to have a good running game.
I don't expect they're going to run the ball a lot,
and I don't expect they're going to run the ball efficiently., and I don't expect they're going to run the ball efficiently.
Well, they won't run the ball a lot if they end up playing from behind
and their offensive line doesn't help them, and that's football.
But I like the addition of DJ Fluker at guard.
They're going to have Dwayne Brown at left tackle through training camp
and the start of the season,
and I'm sure they'll draft another lineman along the way
and so i wouldn't rule out seattle's offensive line from being decent and that'll that'll help
encourage them to run the football and it'll certainly help russell wilson throw the ball
better next ranking juju smith schuster dave and jamie haveuju low-end number three wide receiver,
33-35 in the rankings.
Heath's got him 22nd in standard, 21st in PPR.
Heath, why do you love with such a passion Juju Smith-Schuster?
I mean, have you followed him on Twitter?
No, actually.
He has a lot of fun.
He might get himself in trouble a couple of times, but that's okay.
No, I just, listen, I've got Ben Roethlisberger as my number four quarterback, too.
I've got really high expectations for the Steelers offense, and I expect Juju to get
a bigger share of the targets than Martavis does.
And that's risky, but he's a better player, so that's the way they should do it.
I'm concerned about Smithith schuster's targets and
touchdowns in an offense with antonio brown because when he was great when antonio brown got hurt
and he occasionally came through when brown was on the field yeah he was incredible when antonio
brown got hurt last three games of the season schmuster scored i'll just call him that uh
scored 11 13 and 20 fantasy points in standard scoring leagues with six, six, and nine catches.
Brown missed two of those games completely and got hurt pretty early in that New England game, if you recall, in week 15.
So he was great.
Before that, he had two massive games, week eight at Detroit, week 10 at Indianapolis.
But then also, what, he got a concussion, right?
He got suspended.
Oh, he got suspended.
Okay.
He missed week 12 and he missed week 14.
One was a concussion, one was a suspension.
Okay.
So, yeah, Jamie, you want to comment?
Why do you have Juju as a low-end number three rather than a low-end number two,
like your buddy Heath?
Yeah, I mean, we talked about this previously, and Dave hit on it.
It's the target share.
You saw what it was even in the playoff game
where Roethlisberger threw the ball, what, 50 times,
50-plus times in the game against Jacksonville?
Sounds right.
And Smith-Schuster was not really involved until he had the garbage touchdown.
I think he had three catches for five yards.
On five targets, yep.
In the last score of the game.
I just think he's going to have some big weeks,
and he's going to have a lot of weeks where he disappoints you as well.
So he feels more of a number three receiver to me than a must-start guy.
And the one thing that would change that would be if they somehow moved on
from Le'Veon Bell and found a running back that does not work as much
in the pass game.
Because at best, Miss Schuster's third in terms of targets.
And I think you'll see, whether it's Vance McDonald,
whether it's Martavis Bryant, there's just going to be some weeks
where he doesn't get the targets that he needs to be successful.
It could also be where he just needs one big play
because he's a great player or a very talented player
in an offense that's prolific throwing the ball.
But I just don't see him being a weekly starter
for your fantasy team throughout the course of the season.
Last one here is Alshon Jeffrey.
We've talked about David Johnson, Chris Carson, Schmuster, and here's Alshon Jeffrey.
We avoided Carson Wentz, but now we're sort of incorporating Carson Wentz because Heath obviously is the low guy on Wentz.
Also the low guy on Alshon.
You have Alshon 21st in standard, 28th in PPR.
Jamie has Alshon 18th in standard, 28th in PPR. Jamie has Alshon 18th in standard,
21st in PPR. And Dave is in love with Alshon Jeffrey, 13th in standard, 14th in PPR. But
Heath, this is your big day. So you tell us why you're the low guy on Alshon.
This is my big day. I really appreciate that. He got plenty of targets last year. In fact,
more than I expected him to. he was not very good on a per
target basis and really the thing that saved him nine touchdowns on 57 catches 47 catch rate i
think carson wince has got some touchdown regression coming if there's one person that's going to hurt
it's alshon jeffrey okay yeah i don't know how I don't know why he only caught 57 of 120 targets.
That was very weird.
Well, I mean, it was kind of weird.
But if you look at his career, 52 of 94, 54 of 94, it wasn't that weird.
He's been anywhere between 55 and 60 percent.
He did play most of the season last year, at least according to the reports, with a
separated shoulder or a torn shoulder.
That would make a difference.
And he has played most of his career hurt.
He's had him – like when he went to Philadelphia,
the reason he got a one-year deal is because of all of his injury problems.
It was one of the reasons why I didn't want to –
It was also the PED situation at the end of his time in Chicago.
But he's a touchdown magnet.
He had a year with 10 in Chicago.
He had another big year in Chicago.
I don't know how many it was.
And then he had nine last year. And I don't know how many it was. Then he had nine last year. I don't see how teams
can double team him and feel good about themselves in the red zone
when guys like Zach Ertz are there. The running backs are going to make plays.
This is a creative offense. Doug Peterson has done it. You saw it in the Super Bowl.
They're going to keep doing it. I don't mind projecting Alshon for eight plus
touchdowns. I think he's going to deliver for fantasy. And I don't mind projecting Alshon for eight-plus touchdowns.
I think he's going to deliver for fantasy owners at least half the season.
Okay.
He was 15th in standard, 20th in PPR last year, and Jeffrey did have rotator cuff surgery in the offseason.
But do you see him more than 60 catches?
That's a problem for me.
I don't see his numbers really going up.
I think he could be somewhat the same.
He's had two seasons.
His first two seasons, Jeffrey had 89 and 85 catches.
Is he just done from being that player?
Well, he got 150 targets almost in both those years.
Yeah, that's true.
And he's on an offense that will spread the ball around,
and he's on a team with a defense that might actually limit.
This is helping Heath's argument.
That defense could be better this year than it was last year.
But he had these 85—
There could be a couple games where Wentz goes off for 250-1,
and the run game for Philadelphia, if it's a Jying and Clement, that's great.
They combine for three touchdowns on the ground.
He had these big seasons, 85 catches, with Brandon Marshall on his team.
Was it both years?
Yeah, but that was those two guys just getting fed the ball.
Yeah.
That was Jay Cutler going nuts.
There was no Zach Ertz on that team.
He averaged 49 yards per game last year.
Yeah, it was a strange year.
He was made by his touchdowns.
All righty.
So let's get into our wish list for every AFC team.
We'll do NFC on Monday.
Also, we'll get some draft guy on Monday's show and get some draft insight for you.
It could help you with our podcast league contest.
Email address fantasyfootball at cbsi.com.
And that's about all I have to say.
Here we go.
AFC East, what's your wish list for the New York Jets of the third overall pick?
I mean, they've got to get a quarterback.
I kind of want them to take one of the quarterbacks that I don't like as much.
Why?
Because I don't think it's a good situation there.
And so I would rather – I really like Baker Mayfield,
and I don't want him to go to the Jets.
Is it not that good of a situation?
It's not that bad.
They have some talent there.
I don't understand what the end goal here is then.
You don't want them to be better?
Well, I don't know if this is wish list for players we like
or wish list for what would make them better
or wish list for what makes fantasy better.
No, I get it.
I get what you're saying.
You want one of the better quarterbacks to go to a better district.
That's totally cool.
I get that. Right, but I guess then I get what you're saying. You want one of the better quarterbacks to go to a better – that's totally cool. I get that.
Right, but I guess then I don't understand the exercise.
Are we trying to – the best situation for these rookies to have fantasy success?
Is that your –
No, I think it's what the teams are going to do.
But Heath says, yeah, Heath agrees.
Take a quarterback.
Just Heath doesn't want it to be one of the good quarterbacks.
Right, but that's the thing.
I don't understand what we're trying to accomplish.
Don't take it so seriously.
Just have fun. No, no, but what's the thing. I don't understand what we're trying to accomplish. Don't take it so seriously.
No, no, but what are we wishing for?
NFL team wish list.
Yeah, that's what everybody else is wishing for.
All right, let's move on.
So the Jets need a quarterback.
How about the Dolphins?
Quarterback.
No one knows how to answer that. I don't want them to take a running back.
I don't want them to sign C.J. Anderson.
I want them to be completely happy with Frank Gore.
So that way Kenyon Drake can
be considered
a 15-plus touch rusher.
They're taking the running back at some point. Yeah, I would
like for them to take a quarterback as well.
Okay.
At 11th overall, did you guys
mock them on HQ?
Yep, we did. Who'd they take?
They took Josh Rosen.
Josh Rosen fell to 11.
Okay.
Now, Tannehill's good enough to keep Rosen on the bench for a while, right?
If he's healthy.
I mean, he hasn't played in 16 games.
I want the Dolphins to get a quarterback and a trainer to make Devontae Parker become alive
so that we can finally see his potential met. I think I'm going to be a Devontae Parker guy this so that we can finally see his potential met.
I think I'm going to be a Devontae Parker guy this year.
How come?
Because he's copying.
Because no one else is and you're going to be able to get him late.
Do you have 50 targets to spread around?
They've got Albert Wilson and Danny Amendola.
They've got 140 targets to spread around.
Buffalo has the 12th and 22nd picks.
What is your Buffalo Bills wish list?
I think they should take a quarterback.
They should.
They definitely should.
They're not going to take a running – well, not early anyway.
Do they need defense?
I mean, you could also say defense here, just FYI.
No, they need a quarterback.
Of the teams we've talked about so far, they need it the worst.
Okay.
And the Patriots then, 23rd and 31st overall.
You're going to love our mock draft on HQ.
Yeah, don't say anything else.
Yeah, just when it comes to the Patriots and quarterback.
They need offensive tackle.
Yes, keep Brady healthy.
Okay.
Well, Brady's probably going to get tired.
They need a deep ball receiver.
No, they have about seven of those.
Just none of them are good.
Yeah, I don't know.
Kenny Britt, Malcolm Mitchell, Jordan Matthews.
You're right, man.
These guys stink.
Chris Hogan's their best one.
They're going to turn Cordero Patterson into the player he was supposed to be.
They need Frankenstein to sew together Patterson, Mitchell, Dorsett, and Kenny Britton to one player.
Where are the hands?
Oh, crap.
Edelman.
AFC East is kind of boring.
Let's go to the AFC North.
Cleveland, first and fourth overall picks.
What do they do?
I do not want the Browns to take a quarterback.
Really?
Oh, you like Tyrod?
I want to see Tyrod for a year with those weapons.
You're going to.
You're going to see him for four games.
I'll take the over.
I think he'll play.
I think he'll get at least half the season.
Remember when we did this with Deshaun Watson
and Dave was right because he came in like the second game
but then he got hurt so then Dave lost a bet?
Yeah, I remember.
Speaking of bets,
when are you going to wrap?
Yeah, I know.
We're a little busy this week and next week So it's going to have to come after that
Can we get a deadline?
For me?
Yeah, you're in charge
Heath's turning to you, you're the boss
This is your podcast
Well, I think we should do it
I think we should do it during training camp
When we have more listeners
Like the opening of training camp.
Dave Raps.
I'm rapping, I wish.
That sounds great.
Maybe our first position preview show?
I don't know about that, but opening of training camp.
All right, so the Browns at first and fourth overall,
do you think they take Barkley?
No.
No.
No.
Okay.
So they will.
They're going to take Josh Allen, let's say, number one.
What do you think they do at four?
Child Biffy's there.
Trade.
Trade.
All right.
So we wish they trade.
Baltimore at 16.
They need to take a quarterback.
Wide receiver or tight end?
A tight end would be good there.
Yep.
The only tight end that's going in the first round is Goddard, right?
No.
Really?
Yeah.
Hayden Hurst could go in the first round.
Okay.
Or neither of them could go in the first round.
So I don't really love the destination if they take a tight end.
No.
Baltimore loves to throw the ball four yards downfield.
They get a young tight end that stays healthy and learns things quickly.
He could catch 60 passes.
I think this would be a great spot for DJ Moore or Calvin Ridley.
A lot of people think of Ridley just because of the Alabama connection.
I don't want to run a receiver here.
I don't know if you'd ruin him.
I'm not sure if that would be the case.
I think this offense could be a little bit better than people think it is.
Well, I mean, the last receiver they drafted worked out really well.
He couldn't stay healthy, and he had some receiving issues.
Receiving issues for a receiver.
That's not a good sign.
No, no, no.
That's true.
I'm not the one who drafted him.
But I think if you add Ridley to Crabtree and John Brown, they need a receiver.
They've got to get somebody with speed who can stay healthy.
Didn't they sign Ryan Grant?
No.
Well, they tried.
I don't know if that would have helped in this regard.
Fool you.
All right, Cincinnati, 21st overall.
What's on the Bengals' wish list?
Offensive line.
Quarterback. No, they've got Andy Dalton. They've got a good
quarterback. They need about
seven offensive linemen.
And that could be really significant for fantasy, right?
Definitely.
Yes, absolutely. And specifically, they
need guys that can
do zone blocking, because I think that
is what will help Joe Mixon. They need guys that can do zone blocking, because I think that is what will help Joe Mixon.
They need guys that can run block and pass block and zone block.
All the blocking.
All the blocking.
All right, you could be looking at a Will Hernandez out of UTEP, perhaps.
We have one mock that has them taking a center.
James Daniels out of Iowa.
So, yeah, that's what the Bengals could be looking at.
That's another team that, and this is going to sound nuts,
it's another team that could use another receiver,
probably won't do it in the first round because it's what they did last year.
But they got a great one last year.
I know.
They need another one.
They can't have Brandon LaFell as their number two guy again, can they?
Okay, Pittsburgh at 28th.
What do the Steelers do?
Defense.
100% defense.
Okay.
Boring.
That's fine.
It makes sense.
Although, we do have a Darius Geis.
Look at this mock draft.
I'm looking at CBSSports.com mock draft.
We have Darius Geis.
It's got a bunch of people mocking. People mocking Darius guys. Rashawn Evans, linebacker.
Calvin Ridley.
Oh, no, there's a mock trade from Pittsburgh.
All right.
So Darius guys is an interesting.
That would be weird.
AMC South Colts sixth overall.
What do they do?
Oh, please let them get Barkley.
That would be awesome.
Yeah.
Or someone.
Please let them not get a quarterback.
Because if they draft a quarterback in the first round,
that's all you need to know about Andrew.
But that might help us.
I mean, at least we know then he's not right.
We wouldn't be ranking him, at least.
Yeah.
I think you'll see them if they get, let's say,
if they go Roquan or somebody else defensively in the first round,
they're going to take a running back at some point, round two or round three.
Okay, yeah. I mean, they're going to take a running back at some point, round two or round three. Okay, yeah.
I mean, they definitely need a lot of defensive help.
Round two running back is going to be a lot of fun.
Looking forward to that.
I think they should trade down.
The Colts?
Yeah.
No, they did.
They should keep on going because they need a lot of help.
The Titans have the 25th pick of the draft.
What do the Titans do?
Defense.
Yeah, I'd go defense.
Yeah, seems like there's a consensus there.
Defense for the Titans.
The Jaguars have the 29th pick.
Lamar Jackson.
That's not a joke, right?
No, that was not a joke.
Yeah, I like it.
Yeah, I can see them going tight end as well.
They could also be in the market for receiver.
They have a bunch of guys.
They don't really have a clear-cut number one guy to play receiver there.
So maybe somebody, maybe DJ Moore, maybe Cortland Sutton if Calvin Ridley falls.
But I could see them in the market for Hayden Hurst too.
Let's say they take a rookie receiver.
Who would your favorite Jaguars receiver be?
Still Marquise Lee, but I probably wouldn't draft any of them.
Kalen Cole, PPR.
Leonard Fournette.
That's it.
The Texans do not have a first or second round pick.
They have the fourth pick of round three.
Where do you think the Texans focus on in this draft?
They could take a tight end.
They've always liked
playing multiple tight ends, and
they've lost Fedorowicz. They still have Steven Anderson,
but he's all they've got right now, right?
They've got a lot of
average Joes at tight end.
Anderson, Ryan Griffin.
They got
Matt Lengel, former Patriot,
off waivers. This is exciting stuff.
They could definitely use a tight end.
I don't think any of the good ones are going to be there in round three.
No, they're not going to be a team with a major fantasy impact in the draft
unless they move up.
But would they go running back, do you think?
They could use some depth there, I think.
I don't think they will.
They've got Foreman coming back from his injury.
Plus, they've got Lamar Miller.
I just think that that's a position that they don't need to focus on.
I'm concerned about their tackles.
They've got Julian Davenport.
Yeah, I think offensively.
Chantrell Henderson is their starting tackles.
That makes the Patriots look good.
They also talked about Alfred Blue still being brought back.
Yay.
Yeah.
Okay, to the AFC West.
The Denver Broncos have the fifth pick in the NFL draft.
Who are they selecting?
I wouldn't mind if Saquon went here.
Yeah, I'd be okay with it.
Maybe offensive line, too.
Yeah, offensive line in round one.
Like Quentin Nelson in round one and then a running back in round two
would be very exciting for fantasy, right?
Yep.
Yes.
I would like that running back then.
Yeah.
Oakland, 10th pick.
Defense.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
You imagine they'll draft a wide receiver at some point though?
I mean, given the fact that they're, one is young in Amari Cooper.
Their two is collecting social Security, Jordy Nelson.
And their three is terrible in Seth Roberts.
So, yes, they probably need to address that spot.
Okay.
Chargers have a 17th pick in the draft.
What's on their wish list?
Defense.
And offensive line tackle.
I wouldn't be surprised if they take a running back in the second or third or fourth round.
I would be. I think they like a running back in the second or third or fourth round. I would be.
I think they like what they've got.
A number two.
You did get that from the combine from –
Anthony Lynn?
Yeah, in terms of talking about wanting a little bit more of size from the second guy.
But it might be a fifth or sixth round pick too.
Yeah.
It would be kind of fun if they took Hayden Hurst.
You know, Hunter Henry and Hayden Hurst.
I think
there are so many
older
backup running backs that are available because nobody wants
to sign these guys with the draft being
what it is, that they could also take a
veteran guy just to have for depth too.
Like DeMarco.
If DeMarco just wants a job.
The Chargers have a talented team.
They really do.
Right?
But they need help at tackle.
The interior offensive line is pretty good when you look at it.
Dan Feeney, Mike Pouncey, Forrest Lamp's going to come back.
They could use tackle.
Every mock draft I've seen, because I had them in this mock draft that we did,
was McClinchy as an offensive tackle from Notre Dame or interior defensive line.
So I won't tell you which pick I made.
Okay.
And the Chiefs do not have a first-round pick.
They have the 22nd pick of round two.
The Chiefs.
Just take a bunch of offensive linemen and make sure Patrick Mahomes stays safe.
If they could somehow give him four seconds in the pocket every play, they'll go.
Four seconds?
They'll put up 35 a game.
They're going to score on most of those plays with Tyreek Hill and Sammy Watkins.
All right, yeah, so offensive line makes sense for them,
and they don't have a first-round pick, so I don't care about the Kansas City Chiefs.
There, I said it.
Emails and tweets. I mean,
they're not in as good a place as the Giants right now.
Well, not next Thursday.
No, of course they're not.
Mark from Middle River,
Maryland. A lot of Ms there.
A lot of alliteration. I have
played in just one league, so not sure how
different league rules handle playoff rosters
and moves, but one thing I noted from last year's
FFT shows were the waiver wire pickups
during the playoffs.
My league freezes the roster at the beginning of the playoffs.
Is this common or uncommon?
I prefer freezing the rosters during the playoffs as we have to consider our
roster depth and plan for three games.
I also hate the idea of losing to an owner who benefits by having a better
waiver claim spot, ergo a poorer season,
and subsequently benefits from very late season injuries.
Your thoughts?
So are football rosters frozen throughout the NFL playoffs?
No.
I know like in baseball they are.
You mean in real life.
Right.
No.
I don't think it should be.
I don't think it should be either.
If you are going to freeze them,
then I strongly recommend having deep benches.
Don't just have five bench spots and try and get a backup for every position.
I think you should expand that for the playoff teams.
Let them add players off waivers and then freeze them if you're going to do it that way.
Why is that fun?
Why is what fun?
Freezing it.
No, I don't like it.
What if your quarterback is doing something?
Isn't that theoretically to challenge the owner and say,
okay, this is your team.
Let's see who's the best and who's built their roster.
Okay, and then somebody gets hurt.
That's the argument people use playing into Week 17
is the team that's built the best roster should be able to handle 17 weeks.
But you know going into Week 17,
at least there's some semblance of an idea of who's going to play
and who's not going to play.
You don't know who's going to get hurt in week 14 if you have a bye.
Of course not.
And then you put, like, I just go back to that one team I had three years ago at this point
where I lost Andy Dalton.
It was week 15.
The week 15 Masters.
No, it was week 14.
It was?
I lost Andy Dalton to the thumb injury and Thomas Rawls to the broken ankle.
And I lost in the first round of playoffs.
But there are a lot of people that had bye weeks.
And you don't have those players.
So imagine if you're stuck.
That would stink.
Yeah.
Okay, so let me propose two solutions to this problem.
The part of it that I do get is the frustration of a lower-seeded team having a worse season
and getting this great pickup late for the playoffs.
What if you either, A, use FAB, which I think everybody should do,
free agent acquisition budget. FAB is the best
because that makes... It's like an auction every week in your
league. Yes, and there's two strategies.
One, how much do I bid on the player? And two,
I've got to save my money throughout
the season to make sure I have something left for the
postseason.
You don't spend any money at all, and you just
go with the cheap. What if you spend
$1 every other week? And then when you get to the playoffs, you've got $92?
You've got a nice view from the sideline because you're not in the playoffs.
But what if you change the waiver wires during the playoffs and give the higher seed the first waiver wire priority?
So you're going to make the teams that were better in the regular season
even better in the playoffs.
Yeah, they've earned that.
They've earned the waiver wire priority.
Or you have where waivers
don't reset.
Yeah, could do that too.
Alright, hey, just food for thought.
But how many scenarios, though, does that happen?
It could happen.
I don't know. It could, and I'm sure it has. I'm just saying, how many times, though, does that happen? It could happen. I don't know.
It could, and I'm sure it has.
I'm just saying, like, how many times has there been a guy week 14, 15, 16 that's been added that was so out of the blue that became the difference maker in the playoffs?
Oh, I would think somewhat often.
Just a running back gets hurt and Brandon Oliver has a big game or something like that.
Did that happen a couple years ago?
I'm agreeing with you that it does happen.
Oh, it does happen. Yeah, yeah.
Is it so much the point, though,
where there's that guy that comes completely out of nowhere?
I don't know, but I can understand the frustration
of the waiver wire priority thing,
and I think there are ways to change that,
but I don't think any of us are in favor of freezing rosters, don't do it um sure but if you had to do it that way at least
have a rule that says that if you lose a player in the playoffs you can replace them maybe that's
the only way you should be allowed to pick up a waiver no but at least this way i can't pick up
a breakout player off waivers and just have him sit on my bench so you can't use him after you lost Thomas Rawls and Andy Dalton in the same week.
Why did I think Brandon Oliver?
Somebody took over for Melvin Gordon late in 2016.
I don't know.
You guys figure it out.
Nathan Schultz, what's your take on super flex leagues?
Everyone in my league turned it down.
I would like to change their minds.
I enjoy doing one or two of them per year.
I do think they make a lot more sense now since there's like 40 starting quarterbacks
that could be top 12 this year.
What if you're in a super flex league but you don't know you're in a super flex league
until the league is actually over except for the fact that the league is called the flex league?
Oh, sorry.
Sorry, inside joke.
I'm not allowed to say it.
What if in a Super Flex League you just drafted one quarterback
and left the other spot open?
Right.
A Super Flex League is where you can play a quarterback if you want as your flex.
You know what would be more interesting?
You can play a quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end, or a kicker.
Or a defense as your flex. You can play any position, running back, wide receiver, tight end, or a kicker.
Or a defense as your flex.
You can play any position you want as a flex.
It's dumb.
It's not dumb.
You're dumb.
Speaking of dumb, I need to apologize to you.
Whoa!
Well, I figured I'd wait until the end of the podcast when nobody was listening anymore.
Earlier in the day, I criticized you for not knowing what pearl snaps are.
Yeah.
87% of my Twitter followers do not know.
I'm shocked, but I should not have made fun of you.
I don't know what that is.
I don't know either.
It's this shirt.
It's those buttons on his shirt.
Oh. Oh.
It's a country style of shirt.
Yeah.
Oh, those are nice.
Thank you.
I do like them.
They are nice.
Yeah. Okay. Daryl from – oh, no, wait. First of shirt. Yeah. Well, those are nice. Thank you. I do like them. They are nice. Yeah.
Okay.
Daryl from – oh, no, wait.
First, C. Miller.
Acer strategy.
DeAndre Hopkins and Will Fuller or Michael Thomas and Cameron Meredith?
Which do you like better?
Considering you can get Meredith later than Fuller.
Hopkins and Fuller or Thomas and Meredith?
The Texans.
How can you go against the Texans after last year?
I'll say the Saints.
Okay.
C. Miller actually called this the Acer ship strategy, which is good.
I'll take the Texans just on the fact that they don't have two great running backs on their team
that's going to hog up 450 plays.
I've seen that I could start both Texans receivers.
I don't know that I could start both Saints.
Right, exactly.
That helps.
But you're not drafting Meredith as a starter. No, but I don't think that – I don't know that I could start both things. Right, exactly. That helps. But you're not drafting Meredith as a starter.
No, but I don't think that...
I don't know. I guess it's probably the same
for either. I don't know if either guy benefits if the other one gets hurt.
Where, in New Orleans?
I don't know if Meredith becomes a star if
Thomas goes down, or Will Fuller becomes a star
if Hopkins goes down.
Will Fuller will be the one to go down.
All right, Daryl from Columbus.
Hey, Kenny, Omar, and Jim.
Heath, Kenny, Omar, and Jim?
Yeah.
Cleveland Indians?
What sport is that?
12-team league.
The one where you, Darvish, ruins your fantasy team.
Each team gets to keep one player with their draft position from last year
and moves up a round every year.
The league-wide discussion every year becomes,
what should be announced first, the draft order or the keepers?
What do you guys think?
Well, you hate to be the guy to keep a player for a first-round pick
and then get the number one overall pick.
Yeah.
Because then you could have used that pick to, you know, not – you could have kept somebody else and then used that first pick in your draft to keep the player that you want to keep in the first round pick.
I don't understand why any sort of keeper leagues would not have the previous order of finish because you know everyone is in the league from the previous year.
And so it should just be how you finished the year before to determine your draft order for next season.
I can't imagine doing a keeper league where we don't know the draft
order before selecting our keepers. That's
crazy, Daryl. You tell your league
draft order first, then keepers.
We've got a Dynasty
League trade from
Aaron in Maine.
And he says,
Dear Robert, Ray,
Joe, and Lorraine.
Hmm. Yeah, I also don't know.
Jarek McKinnon, giving up.
McKinnon, Danny Amendola, and the second-round rookie draft pick.
Sixth pick of round two.
McKinnon, Amendola, and the second-round pick of the rookie draft for Le'Veon Bell.
Yes.
A-plus.
You're getting Bell.
You're doing great.
That's outstanding.
This is from Joe.
From the gateway to the Midwest.
That would be the St. Louis.
Heath, is that true?
Yes, that is true.
Isn't that the gateway to the West?
You don't know that, Adam?
I thought it was the gateway to the West,
not the gateway to the Midwest.
I think it is actually the gateway to the West. By the way, those... So then, what is the gateway to the west, not the gateway to the midwest. I think it is actually the gateway to the west.
So then what is the gateway to the midwest?
Is that like Lexington, Kentucky?
It all shows St. Louis.
Knoxville.
By the way, Robert Ray, Joe and the Reign is the cast of Goodfellas.
That's stupid.
All right, Joe from the gateway says,
Dear Ronald, Dave, Jack, and Carl
We'll come back to that
10 team PPR league
You can keep a player for 3 years
Each year you're moved up 1 draft slot
I can keep Antonio Brown in the first
Or
Le'Veon Bell
In the 6th
In their last year
This guy I think he voice typed this So the typos are great So Antonio Brown in the sixth in their last year. This guy, I think he voice typed this,
so the typos are great.
So Antonio Brown in the first
in his final year,
Le'Veon Bell in the sixth final year,
or Josh Gordon in the eighth,
or Mark Ingram in the eighth,
and I can keep them for three years.
I'd keep both the Steelers
and go win the league
and figure out next year's keepers next year.
Le'Veon's the easy one.
I think you can only pick one, right?
So it's Le'Veon.
No, I think two.
No, you can pick two.
So Le'Veon's one.
Who's the other?
Ingram.
Ingram in the eighth?
Yep. Okay. Then the eighth? Yep.
Okay.
Then Brown, then Gordon.
He says Die Hard is a Christmas movie, and Jerry Maguire is a rom-com.
So he's one for two.
I was going to say, if you didn't continue after the Die Hard, this was a shock that you actually picked one that supported an argument against yours.
All the time.
I'm very fair.
No way.
This is from AC.
Where's he from? Bayside. All the time. I'm very famous. No way. This is from AC.
Where's he from?
Bayside.
12-team peeper.
The peeper league?
What are the rules in that one?
12-team PPR keeper league.
Adam would be a star in the peeper league.
Has that story been told?
The story's been told, but it was a long time ago.
Outstanding story. Do we tell it again?
Adam will probably edit it out.
No, let's tell it after we read these two emails.
I'd like to read your sleepers, breakouts, and busts in the Peeper League.
12-team Peeper League, PPR Keeper.
Every year the round value gets cut in half.
So keep three. Gurley in rounder. Every year the round value gets cut in half. So keep three.
Gurley in round one.
Mixon in round four.
Devontae Adams in round five.
Deshaun Watson round ten.
Josh Gordon round ten.
Andrew Luck round eleven.
Pick three.
Gurley and Adams are the easy two, right?
Adams for sure.
Gurley for sure.
And I'd go Gordon.
Yeah, round 10.
12-team PPR, everybody's going to have a stud quarterback.
Yep.
But Gurley in round one, though, I mean.
Well, if you don't go, you're going to make it to the quarter.
He's not just a first-rounder.
He's the number one overall pick.
Yes, but we don't know where he picks, right?
No.
Hopefully he does. So assuming you don't have the number one overall pick, Gurley should be kept.
All right.
Okay, Dennis says, Dear Trent, Doug, and David,
first three running backs drafted in 2012, all busts.
12-team league, which uses a maximum of 30 add drops for the season.
How much of a higher premium
would you put on drafting
top tight ends, quarterbacks, and DSTs?
So you can't stream quite as much. Only
30 ad drops.
That's like two a week.
So how much more of a premium
would you put on quarterback, tight end, and
DST?
DST, none.
I'd probably say none on quarterback either.
A tight end for sure would be the one where I would be much more interested in getting a top six tight end.
I'm not sure if I'm on the two tight end train yet.
I might bump Jacksonville up a round.
Yeah, I kind of feel like a DST that you can start just about every week is pretty valuable because you could be stuck with a terrible DST and get a zero.
Would you have said that about Denver last year?
Maybe, but accepting the fact that there are busts at every position every year, that is the most streamable position.
So you can't stream DSTs in this league.
You know?
You got to take a good one.
Well, you can.
Not really.
Two moves per week?
Can't prioritize a DST.
Well, you're not going to do it every week.
I guess.
I mean, I don't necessarily think you have to take the Browns or the Raiders,
but you don't necessarily have to make defense a priority.
Would you take the Eagles or the Falcons?
I wouldn't take the Falcons to begin with, so no.
Those are the two teams that will play the first game of the NFL season.
Woo!
The schedule leaking.
The fun of the schedule.
All right, so let's set the scene.
CBSSports.com offices in Fort Lauderdale.
Oh, it's not just the office.
It's the men's room.
Yeah, you walk into the bathroom. You walk into the men's room. Yeah, you walk into the bathroom.
You walk into the men's room.
First thing you see, you've got the sinks on the right.
You walk a little bit farther.
You've got three sinks on the right.
You walk a little bit farther.
You've got four urinals on the left, and you've got four stalls to the right of the urinal.
So in between the urinals and the stalls, what, six feet?
No, 10 feet wide, separating the two eight feet eight feet i haven't been there in a while between the urinals and the stall five feet
five it's like a prison bathroom there's like three and a half four five feet i think i think
six is right yeah sure yeah it depends like between the actual urinal or between the man
standing at the urinal well i i think if you if you to just do it, it's like an azer and a half.
Okay, right.
So if you're sitting on the can, you're looking at the urinal if the door is open.
But, of course, the door is closed.
So when I go pee in the bathroom, I prefer nobody be in there.
So I like, you know, you check the stalls.
There are no legs
All the doors are open
If all the stall doors are open
You know there's nobody in there
Okay
I'm scarred for life
But there's one stall
The third one
The door does not stay open
It's always closed
So you can't know if somebody's in there
So I go to pee
And I had to look
And there's like a crack
that you could look through
to see if somebody was in the stall.
With the number one pick in the peeper league.
And somebody was in the stall.
Why would you look
in the stall? I wanted to know if I had privacy.
I wanted to know
if I had privacy too until I saw your big face
in your head.
Are you in there?
You didn't know that story?
I had not ever heard that story.
Of all people he peeped, he peeped me.
Well, thank goodness.
I mean, think of who it could have been.
Not from his perspective.
I haven't let him live it down forever.
But how did you know I saw?
You didn't see me look, did you?
Of course.
What do you mean?
You looked.
I cannot believe that.
Well, I just wanted to know.
I wanted to know my surroundings.
You always got to be cognizant of your surroundings.
He did just look.
First off, the space between the doors is very big for an average.
It's almost an inch.
It's almost an inch.
And so all of a sudden, I'm like, why is Adam looking at me?
I didn't look for long.
I turned right around.
So what do you do when you walk into those restrooms and there are people in there?
Do you just like hang out outside until everybody leaves?
No, I still pee.
I'm just not as comfortable.
Not as excited to pee.
Yeah, I'm going to go, but I'd like to know.
I don't know what's around you.
You always got to be looking.
You're always looking to see feet under the stalls, aren't you?
If I needed to, yeah, but usually you can tell because the doors are open, but not in that particular stall.
Jamie picked the wrong stall.
What do you want me to say?
All right, we're out of here.
Thank you all.
You picked the wrong friend.
It would have been better if it were a stranger, right?
Like someone that you didn't know.
We've had some very interesting bathroom, bathroom stories, in our office.
There was one time where somebody fell asleep and was snoring in the bathroom.
No way.
Yeah, we called him Sleeping Poopy.
Oh, my God.
There was another time where...
That's the best nickname you could come up with?
I came up with that nickname.
That's terrible.
Sleeping...
It stuck.
It stunk.
We could also call him Shoeless Joe.
There was another guy who somebody, he saw him taking his shoe off, right?
Or something?
Took his shoes off in the bathroom.
Right.
And saw them underneath the door.
Make fists with your toes.
Oh, I get that reference.
Merry Christmas.
See you later, everybody.
Is that an admission?
That's an admission. Nope an admission? That's an admission
Bye