Fantasy Football Today - 04/30: Ranking the Rookies (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 29, 2019

The NFL Draft is in the books and we are here to recap and react! We start the show with NFL Draft picks that will have a big Fantasy impact. Why did LAR select a RB in Round 3? Did KC find a Tyreek Hill clone? And which draft picks won't have much impact at all (8:40)? We give our Top 3 rookies at each position with QB (17:25), RB (18:00), WR (24:40) and TE (35:00). As we give these rankings we dive deeper into the positions and discuss which SF WR will step up, if Parris Campbell can be successful in his rookie season, if Devin Singletary could lead BUF in carries, if David Montgomery is the answer in the CHI backfield and much more ... We finally talk about the Josh Rosen trade (41:30) and more NFL Draft tidbits ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. We're back here. It's Monday.

We're talking about the NFL Draft. It was fun. What an awesome weekend. It's going to be a lot of fantasy talent. Second round and beyond. On Friday's show, we did talk about the first round. It wasn't so much in terms of fantasy. It was a lot of defensive players picked, but we knew Heath. I would say that round one was a prelude.

What was it? A prelude to the kiss? Prelude to a kiss. Prelude to a kiss. Apparently one of the greatest movies of our generation. Blockbuster. Yeah. And we got smooched big time over the weekend by

the NFL draft. We're all here. Dave, Jamie, and Heath in Fort Lauderdale. I'm in New York. Let's talk about it. Give me the NFL draft pick that had the biggest fantasy impact or that will have the biggest fantasy impact in 2019 jamie dave heath uh daryl henderson what really no really maybe maybe impact on the guy that he's

going to be playing behind potentially or maybe playing in front of i mean here i was thinking this was an easy answer josh jacobs well we don't give the easy answer, Dave. Well, you didn't give the easy answer, but I sure did. So, Daryl Henderson, Rams running back. Actually, that is a really bad answer, Jamie. That cannot be the guy. No, no, no. He came from a different angle than you

were expecting. We already talked about Josh Jacobs on Friday. If that acquisition causes Todd Gurley to not be a top 12 running back, then it would be a bigger fantasy impact than Josh Jacobs is going to have. But that's not the way I was thinking of it. I am in a magazine draft right now that started Sunday night, so after the draft already happened, and Todd Gurley went fifth overall.

Yep. I think that's a little too soon. Thank you. Okay, so Henderson was taking in the third round. How much impact does he have? Let's talk about it. How many carries does he take away from Todd Gurley, who over the last two seasons,

Todd Gurley was fifth in carries per game and second in carries per game? I think he's going to be an impact. I hope it's not an impact. I guess I'll frame it that way. But I think, you know, what we know from Todd Gurley's situation, the fact that they spent a third-round pick on what some people may have considered the second-best running back in this class,

is to me an indication that Gurley is still dealing with something that they're concerned about. Or that they have no intention of using him like they did the last two years to make sure he's healthy for the playoffs. Either way, I think it's bad. There's more to it than that. Remember Malcolm Brown signed a restricted free agent contract with Detroit and the Rams decided to match it.

That should speak to it a little bit. I think Henderson speaks to it a lot more. And I think he's really nailed it on the head. I think they still want to use Gurley, but A, they want to take a little bit off of his plate, maybe a lot bit off his plate, and B, they've got an even better contingency plan for if Gurley misses time than what they had late last season.

Give me carries per game that you expect from Todd Gurley. 15. I'm doing Gurley. 15. I'm doing the math. Sorry. Because I did math on 16. If he had 16 carries per game and he averaged 4.8 yards per carry, which is what he's been at over the last two seasons, 4.7 and 4.9, 16 carries per game at that rate would be 76.8 rushing yards per game,

which would have been 7th best in 2017, 6th best in 2018, and that's without the receiving totals and obviously the touchdowns. The funny thing is these guys both said 15, right? I haven't projected 15.1. So I think we know exactly how many carries he's going to get. Exactly. Well, where would you take Todd Gurley now, given all the things we just discussed?

Round two. Round two for me. The one-two turn. Yeah. Yeah, top 15 pick. Okay. Dalvin Cook or they also, Minnesota also added a running back. Dalvin Cook or Todd Gurley? Gurley. Still Gurley, but it's close. I have

them back-to-back now. So do I. And I think that that situation in Minnesota is not – like that was a little bit of a bad thing for Delvin Cook because the running back they drafted, Alexander Madison, that dude is a finisher. Is that dude – That's a great show on Broadway too.

Yes. I had that song in my head. I had that song in my head. And some of it really applies to him. He's got a pretty interesting backstory if you ever get a chance to look at it but uh yeah i think he could steal some touchdowns from cook he's isn't he just gonna get plugged into the latavius murray role i i would say so that's what i think's gonna happen yeah i think what i like so this is alexander madison third round pick out of boise goingise, going to Minnesota. I actually don't know the song, but it's still a funny joke.

Going to Minnesota. Yeah, you don't love to see them taking a running back in the third round, but you know they want to run the ball a lot. Correct me if I'm wrong here. This is not someone I would really expect to hurt Dalvin Cook in the passing game, which would be obviously a good thing. No, but you could say maybe abdullah does oh stop a little dabble do it madison's on broadway abdullah is in a hot dog card on like

ninth and third ninth and third okay so uh dave you would say josh jacobs would be the most impactful pick this year yeah i mean that's the answer. Do you want an answer that's not as lazy? Sure. Mecole Hardman. Yes! Yes, that's what I wanted to hear. Top 100 pick. Oh my gosh, so excited about him.

He had him third in his rookie receiver rankings. I don't know who David Jamie had. We're going to do top three at each position. This is the Chiefs guy. Very excited. Yeah, to be clear, I do not have him third in my Dynasty receiver rankings. I did not have him anywhere close to third before the draft. The thing that scares me is if you watch his highlights, his highlight reel looks a lot like Tyreek Hill.

That is a really bad reason to draft a player to replace Tyreek Hill, but I'm sure there's more to it than just that. Did you watch more than his highlight reel? I have not watched more than his highlight reel. Yeah, he's got a ways to go. But they used him at Georgia on sweeps, screens, a lot of the same ways that the Chiefs have used Tyreek Hill. So it's going to take a little while for him to even come close to Tyreek Hill.

But we were talking about this today, Heath. Could he be 50% of what Tyreek Hill was last year? Yeah, I think it's more fair to look at him as if he is rookie Tyreek Hill. Yes. Tyreek Hill was not a very polished wide receiver when he came into the league. He still made an impact because of the big plays. And Hardman can do that. But he's not 2018 Tyreek Hill.

I think he's more polished than Tyreek was when he came into the league. If I'm comparing the two, I think Hardman is one step higher, but still several steps from the top. Okay, 2016 Tyreek Hill's rookie season, 61 catches, 593 yards, six touchdowns, and then three more rushing touchdowns with 267 rushing yards on 24 carries uh and heath who is the most impactful player you know draft pick i'm going to try to be creative now too since everybody's being creative i will go with a combo Miles Boykin and Marquise Brown. I get that.

First off, the fact that they spent the resources they did on those two players really made me reconsider the run-pass split that I had for the Ravens offense. I still think they'll be run-heavy. They'll probably still be the most run-heavy in the league, but I had them the most run-heavy in the league by like 5% or 10%. These are two good weapons for Lamar Jackson, and the Ravens might have a little more success throwing the ball now. Yeah, and a first-round pick and a third-round pick. Myles Boykin out of Notre Dame in the third round,

and he's 6'4", 220. And then, of course, they're so different. Hollywood Brown in the first round, Marquise Brown, he's 5'9", 166. And I want to go back because on Friday I think I really reacted poorly to the Marquise Brown pick. I didn't want to see him go to Baltimore because I don't trust Jackson as a passer. But Marquise Brown is the type of guy that can do so much after the catch that I really think I overreacted there. So please forgive me. We've got a lot to get to here, so we'll go quicker on this question here.

The NFL draft pick that won't have as much fantasy impact as you think. Heath, Dave, Jamie. Heath, kick it off. Won't have as much fantasy impact as you think. I mean, he's slid on draft days, so maybe people aren't thinking he's going to have as much impact, but I will go with DK Metcalf. And I reserve the right to change that if Doug Baldwin does impact retire. There was a tweet that made it sound like he probably isn't going to retire. I don't think they're going to throw the ball enough, and I don't think Metcalf is polished enough to have that much of an impact as a rookie. I have two. Marquise Brown is one, because I think people tend to gravitate toward the first

player at a given position drafted and say, well, he must be the best one, and we've seen his highlights, and they don't consider the offense, what they want to do, the quarterback. So he's one. And the other one is Noah Fant, who I think some people are over the moon for. I think he's going to need some time. And I don't love – this is where I'm going to contradict myself, because I love the opportunity.

I think he's going to get on the field. Maybe not as much as we'd like to begin, but once they get to week five or week six, he'll probably be playing a lot. But I still don't – everybody's going crazy about Joe Flacco, loves his tight ends. Maybe 20% of the receptions will go to Noah Fant. I don't know how many receptions he's going to get. I don't know how much he's going to play.

And I think Noah Fant is not a refined prospect. I think he's a little raw, too. So I think people might jump the gun on him. Okay, Noah Fant. I think it's going to be his case for both rookie tight ends that were drafted early. Yeah, Hawkinson, eighth overall. Fant was a 20th, 21st overall. I kind of feel the same way about both of them, though. I think both of them are okay to have on your team as a streamer to begin the year

or as a wait-and-see type of a prospect. I'm not chasing them down, though, on draft day. And the thing about Flacco is he'll throw to his tight end, but he just doesn't throw a lot of touchdowns. If you get 25 touchdowns out of Flacco, that's a great year, basically. And tight ends really need touchdowns. And that's if he plays the whole season. That's if he plays, of course.

They did draft the quarterback. Jamie, the NFL draft pick that won't have as much fantasy impact as you think? I think Marquise Brown is my answer as well, but I'll also say A.J. Brown. I was a little frustrated with the Titans taking him for a couple reasons. One, Mariota is also not exactly the best passer in a system that doesn't exactly throw the ball a ton. And I also think if you look at A.J. Brown's

profile, he's a better slot receiver than he is an outside guy. He did play outside when Metcalf dealt with some injuries last season, so he can do it, but his strength, I think, would be to play in the slot. And I love the comparison of him and Juju Smith-Schuster if you read a lot of the draft profiles on him.

But signing Adam Humphreys this offseason, you can't put him outside. So if you're going to have a receiving core on paper that makes sense, it's Corey Davis and A.J. Brown on the outside and Humphreys on the inside. And then if you get Delaney Walker coming back to health I think AJ Brown's ceiling is a little bit limited certainly as a rookie so um I wish he would have ended up in a better scenario like I think a lot of these receivers are so talented but they didn't exactly end up in great spots

and that's I think what's frustrating about this class is there's so much talent but there wasn't a lot of great destinations. Yeah, and I think I was just looking at previous drafts and the 2017 draft. If you go back and look at the running backs in the 2017 NFL draft, it's going to be like legendary. It's Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, Alvin Kamara, Kareem Hunt, Deontay Foreman, James Connor, Samajai Pirine, Tariq Cohen. I won't read the rest, but Jamal Williams was around four-pick.

Samajai Pirine. Marlon Mack was around four-pick. Elijah McGuire, Aaron Jones around five-picks. Chris Carson was around seven. It was Pirine that made the class. Joe Williams and Donnell Pumphrey too,yan that made the class joe williams and donnell pumphrey too they also made the class but no wayne gallman no but this is a great running back draft two years ago i don't know i feel like the wide receiver class where we won't get the

stars you know we may not get the superstars but i think it's really good i mean i'm excited about this group of wide receivers guys three. Three years from now, when they all enter, or two and a half, two years from now, when they're entering their third year, I would not be surprised at all if we've got ten of these guys that are top 30 receivers.

I would be very surprised if we had ten that were top 30 receivers. But I don't know if we have any this year. Ten guys from this class will be top 30 in fantasy? I think there could be. In three years. There's a lot of very good guys. I don't know if there's five.

I'm serious. Okay, so Heath, who are you thinking? Obviously Marquise Brown, Nakiel Harry, the first rounders. They've got that potential. I think Metcalf has that potential long term. I would agree. I think Dito Samuel has that potential. That's. I would agree. I think D-D-Samuel has that potential. That's another example of a rough landing spot.

Paris Campbell? That's my – Metcalf. Oh, yeah. Well. I mean, I get what Seattle's trying to do. They admitted they wanted to get speed on offense. They said that Tyler Lockett can't be our only deep threat. They're saying they want to use Russell

Wilson's arm more in 2019. One of the Arizona guys. It should be Butler. I think it should be Butler, too. I'm with you guys. We haven't said Paris Campbell's name yet. Who? Paris Campbell. He's my favorite. Paris Campbell's in a good spot.

I think Paris Campbell went two picks after J.J. Arcega-Whiteside, who went to Philly. That was such a weird pick. Those should have been flopped. Because I wonder if Philadelphia had any interest in Mecole Hardman, who went one pick ahead of them because he's this little guy who can fly. And I think the Eagles really need speed on offense.

They drafted an Alshon Jeffrey clone. Right, exactly. A guy who's not that fast, who is great at getting up in the air and getting the ball um you know it was funny the consensus on our draft panel was they shocked that he was six two because right because it looks like he's six right yeah but the eagles do such a great job of drafting not necessarily for the immediate future they draft for the long-term future. The first thing when they drafted him, I went and looked at Alshon Jeffries' contract, and he signed

for another two years, I believe. Unless they're going to cut him next year, it didn't make any sense. Because bringing in Deshaun Jackson, you feel like that's a real position of strength for them. It was weird. I do like the fact, just from a fantasy perspective,

that the Eagles used their first three picks on offense, tackle in round one, and then a running back and a wide receiver. And I think this is, you know, we got this. Go to our draft tracker, cbssports.com slash NFL slash draft. And there's just a quick write-up on every pick. And then if you click on the pick, there's more of a scouting report. So it's really good. It's really helpful. And then Prisco click on the pick, there's more of a scouting report. So it's really good. It's really helpful.

And then Prisco has the grades in the write-up. And here's what he wrote for Deontay Johnson, who's a Toledo wide receiver that was picked by the Steelers. I think it's a little high for him, but who am I to argue with the Steelers when it comes to drafting wide receivers? They know what they're doing. They'll be fine.

And that's well said. I like that. Deontay Johnson out of Toledo. Yeah. I liked watching him play. He's pretty shifty uh good downfield speed and pretty good hands good route set could be their slot receiver well we're about to find out if the steelers are good at drafting receivers because what they did last year and what they did this year is going to really test that yep by drafting james washington by getting rid of antonio brown and by drafting deontay johnson um uh bryant mcfadden former steelers cornerback was uh as part of our um nfl analyst

group and um on cps sports hq and he was part of our draft coverage and uh we were having a conversation off air about two guys that they drafted when he was there which were antonio brown and emmanuel sanders and they had the luxury of letting those two guys that they drafted when he was there, which were Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders. And they had the luxury of letting those two guys battle it out on a week-to-week basis. This is before, obviously, Antonio blew up and even Sanders became the guy that he hit. But they had the luxury of having those two guys just every week. The way Bryant described it was they had a fight for a hat. And it was back and forth all the time.

And he said it was just really fun to watch because you could see how talented they were. So it's going to be interesting to see how these young Steelers receivers operate and can they beat out the great Dante Moncrief for a starting role. So I'm sure you guys have been working on your rankings for 2019. So just of the rookies, give me your top three at each position for 2019. I'll start with you, Dave me your top three at each position for 2019. I'll start with you, Dave.

Your top three quarterbacks. Murray, Haskins, Locke. Murray, Haskins, Locke. Jamie? Murray, Haskins, Jones. Murray, Haskins, Jones. Heath? Murray, Haskins, Locke. Okay, so two Murray, Haskins, Locke's and one Murray, Haskins, Jones.

And I think it's like really probably Murray, Haskins, nope. It's like Murray. For 2019 at least. Yeah, Murray, Haskins in two quarterback leagues, nope. Okay, how about running backs? Dave, top three running backs in 2019, top three rookies jacobs montgomery sanders okay i actually right now for 2019 only have sanders ahead of montgomery but jacobs sanders montgomery j so okay josh jacobs for oakland montgomery for uh the bears Josh Jacobs for Oakland, Montgomery for the Bears. We'll talk about that.

And Miles Sanders out of Penn State for Philadelphia. He was the second running back picked. Then it was Daryl Henderson for the Rams. We're not going to be so high on him right now. And then David Montgomery was the – so this is a weird pick to me, David Montgomery, just because the Bears had no draft capital, and they spend an early pick, and they traded up for him, too. They gave up

picks for David Montgomery. I wish he were faster. He's kind of... If he was faster, he would have been the top pick of the draft. Or the top running back of the draft. Jordan Howard. I don't know. No, he's not. No, he's much better than Jordan Howard. He's Matt Forte. He's Matt Forte?

He is Matt Forte. He plays faster than he ran. He's 4'6", 340. Like, how could he be Matt Forte? No, but Jacobs didn't run well either. Right, and Jacobs definitely plays faster than he runs. I don't know if Montgomery plays as fast as Jacobs. No.

He's going to get caught from behind a lot. But if he gets volume, which I think he can actually get in Chicago to a decent degree, including goal line work, he's going to have dividends straight away. He is a top 50 pick for me. I mean, if they were willing to give up picks to move up to get him, you got to feel like they want to feature him, right? Especially with their limited draft capital. I think I saw that they had him as their number one running back on their draft board. I mean, they can say that now after the fact.

I'd be surprised if that was really the truth. I had him as my number one. Yeah, you liked him as your number one guy. Okay, this is David Montgomery. He was my three. For the Bears. Just on this subject, do we think Devin Singletary, who went one pick later, 5'7", running back out of FAU, now going to the Bills? He's been compared to LaShawn McCoy.

Do we think he will lead the Bills in carries this year? Only if they cut McCoy, which they could. Yeah, there's a couple of guys like that that could get cut or retire that would really create some opportunities for some of these rookies. i was not real high on singletary before the draft but and it's so weird that they signed frank gore they signed tj yeldon then they drafted running back this high you know almost seems like they're weird yeah it's really but but again you know you can look at it as okay our guys for this year are mccoy gore in an emergency we'll see what we get out of yeldon and then singletary is kind of let's just use him as a you know called a gadget player but singletary

could be their guy 2020 easily and it's set up perfectly for him to do that because their offensive line is much better it's improving alan will be a better quarterback a year from now. Yeah. So I like Singletary and Dynasty because I think in the long term he can be very, very good. There's one year left on LeSean McCoy's deal. If they cut him, they save $6 million off the cap. And they have to eat $2.6 million in dead money. So they could definitely let him go. And after he spoiled the movie, maybe they will. Yeah. I can't believe that. I mean, I don't care. Definitely let him go. And after he spoiled the movie, maybe they will.

I can't believe that. Assuming he's on the team, A, that's a really nice running back group that they have. I believe that Gore is Devin Singletary's idol. He is. And he's kind of a clone of LeSean McCoy. So they're going to mix and match. It's going to be a pain in the butt each week. Don't draft a Bills running back this year.

There is one running back that I don't, like I would not put on this list. And nobody put him on their draft board. But I think he might challenge this group. Bryce Love. What? Bryce Love. No, no, no.

Bruce Anderson. Mr. Anderson. Free agent. Signed by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers after the draft he's a tampa kid he i think he's i felt lindsey story all over again yeah i i think he might be there starting running back for like half the season uh one of my guys uh six round pick darwin thompson um i i think you know the chiefs they didn't have a lot of draft picks and you know you look at damian williams i'm not sold on him being the guy there. Um, Carlos Hyde is, I think kind of a stopgap option. I don't know if Thompson's going to end up being the featured guy, but you know, you,

you've seen what they've done with, uh, day two and day three running backs in the past. And, uh, I mean, we've talked about this before. Damian Williams career high and carries for a season at 50. I'm going the exact other way. I think Williams is their guy. I think he's the guy to start. I don't think he's the guy to finish. I don't think he's their guy to finish. I mean, last time he had a chance to be a starter in the NFL,

he got hurt. So, I'm not sold on him being a starter for 16 games. Was he even the starter for Miami when he got hurt? He was. I didn't realize he was starting. I knew he was playing more, obviously, but I didn't know he was starting. Kadriolosin for Pittsburgh in round five. I mean, certainly has a chance to be a complimentary back. You they like to use it you mean

Atlanta yeah so he's out of Sorry right Atlanta in round Five he's Ito Smith A year after Ito Smith right The third guy right and Just before he was taken Kadri Oleson by the Falcons Armstead taken by the Jaguars

We know there's some issues There with Leonard Fournette. So you never know. You never know. We're skipping over a pretty big name that went in the third round, I believe. Damian Harris. Yeah, this is the most. I didn't intend to talk about all the running backs now.

I was going to do just a top three. But, hey, let's just stick with it. I'm enjoying this conversation. This was the, I don't know, is this the weirdest pick of the draft? Damian, we'reider's offensive pick? It makes sense from what the Patriots tend to do, which is take good players and continue the SEC connection,

the Nick Saban connection. It's frustrating fantasy-wise, though, just because you saw what Sonny Michel could be, or at least hopefully still will be. This is, I think, more of an indication on two things. One, Rex Burkhead as the number two guy, and two, James White's contract expires after next season. So he could, or after this season, he's free agent in 2020.

So this could be the James White replacement. But I think Harris is talented enough that they're going to play him. And if they're going to play him, they're going to take away from, I think, everybody in a little regard. Are you going to move Sonny Michel down? Spot or two. Is there any rookie running back you'd rather have ahead of Sonny Michel?

Jacobs? You can make an argument for Jacobs, sir. I think I may have Jacobs ahead of him in PPR. All right, let's go to wide receiver. Give me your top three rookie wide receivers for 2019. Dave, we'll start with you again. Give me your top three rookie wide receivers for 2019. Dave, we'll start with you again. I'll go with Paris Campbell, one,

Mecole Hardman, two, Marquise Brown, three. Interesting, interesting list. This one might be a little bit different than the other two. And only the top two are top 100 picks. Brown, for me, is not. He's just outside the top 100. All right, Colts wide receiver, Paris Campbell. Chiefs wide receiver, Mecole Hardman.

And you said Marquise Brown, the Ravens, number three. Okay, Heath? Paris Campbell, one. I've got Nikhil Harry, two. And Mecole Hardman, three. Okay, Nikhil Harry, the first round pick for the Patriots, so he's two for Heath. Jamie, who's your top three rookie

wide receivers? I'll go Debo Samuel, one. Nikhil Harry two, and Paris Campbell three. Yeah, I had a feeling this one was going to lead to more debate. Debo Samuel, third wide receiver off the board, 36th overall. South Carolina wide

receiver going to San Francisco. They also added a wide receiver in the third round, Jalen Hurd from Baylor. Hurd is 6'5", 226. A nice compliment to Samuel, who's 5'11", 214. And, of course, they have Dante Pettis, who we love. So I guess let's stick with the rookie angle here. So Debo Samuel, number one for Jamie.

Paris Campbell, number one for Dave this year and for Heath. I'll let you, Jamie, take it away why you have Samuel. I just think, you know, you look at this receiving core, it's Pettis and, yeah. Hurd, I don't know if he's going to end up playing strictly receiver. He's kind of a combo type of guy that could play running back if they wanted to. He could play tight end if they wanted to. He did a bunch of things at Baylor. Six foot five, he could play running back if they wanted to. He could play tight end if they wanted to. He did a bunch of things at Baylor. Six foot five?

He could play running back? Well, he did play fullback. He did play running back. He played running back at Tennessee. He suffered a concussion and quit the team and transferred to Baylor to be a wide receiver. It was a weird pick. So I don't think he's going to be a running back. I agree.

But I'm saying, like, you know, Kyle Shanahan said he's kind of a jack of all trades for us. It just was a weird pick. But you look at this receiving core, this hurts Pettis in my opinion because he could play in a slot in terms of Samuel, but he could do a lot of things. I just trust Kyle Shanahan's system, and I think you're going to see this kid get a ton of targets in his rookie season, and I love the fit for him just going to this type of offense. I did downgrade Pettis because of this pick.

I'm struggling with what to do with the 49ers targets because right now i've got about 250 going to kittle on the running backs and so you just stop the kill yeah i mean i think they're probably still throw the ball a lot to their running backs though whichever one it is and so i i'm a little worried about pettis and samuel and whether either of them get enough targets to be really good in fantasy yeah i'll I'll take Pettis all day long. Oh, I like Pettis better, but I don't think he's going to be as good as he could have been by them spending the capital they did on the receiver position. I'm going to go with the speed, the second-year factor.

He lined up inside and outside. Samuel can do the exact same thing. He can line up everywhere. He's not as much of a burner as Pettis. He's like a—I don't even know if he's shorter than Pettis, but he's like a stockier version of Pettis with like a slightly slower gear. I'm not going to say that Sample is slow. He's got good speed.

But he's like a better pass catcher who, if they scheme him open, can gain plenty of yards after the catch. So Paris Campbell is someone we like, I guess. Love. Well, let me just pour a little cold water on that, because I looked at every single year of Andrew Luck, every healthy year for Andrew Luck in his career, and he's really not come through.

A number two wide receiver, I think only once, has had 800 yards. And that was Andrew Luck's rookie year where Reggie Wayne had 1,355 yards and T.Y. Hilton had 861. So he throws a lot to the tight ends. We know that. He throws to the running backs. He just so far has not featured a number two wide receiver. I mean, think about that. He throws to the running backs. He just so far has not featured a number two wide receiver. I mean, think about that.

He's one of the best quarterbacks in football, and we pretty much, I don't think we've ever had, other than that rookie year 2012 when it was Hilton and Wayne, I don't think we've ever really had two reliable wide receivers, although I guess you could argue 2013 Reggie Wayne only played seven games, and when he was healthy, he did have 503 yards. I think this may—like, I don't disagree with anything you just said. Paris Campbell is my number one rookie receiver for this year, but I don't have a rookie receiver in the top 40.

Okay, okay, okay. That's a good way to frame it so does anybody to jamie and dave do you have no no no i'm still working through this so samuel by the time we get to the end of the days may not be the number one guy for me campbell is my number 34th ranked receiver overall in ppr i've got him 41 so i mean we're not we're on a long way right but i i think that they drafted him for a reason and i think he's a great volume type of receiver. He was used. I mean, we talked about this before the draft.

Jamie nailed the comparison. Percy Harvin, Sons weed. That's what this guy, and Sons migraines. That's what Paris Campbell is. He's got a really good mind for football. Ohio State used him in that role. I think he could be better than that role, but it's going to take him proving that to the Colts coaching staff.

But Frank Reich just added another incredible piece to the offense. To me, this cements Andrew Luck as the number one quarterback in fantasy this year. All the moves that they've made, they have surrounded him with unreal talent at receiver, way better than what he had last year, and a great offensive line, he's going to throw more touchdowns than anybody else. It's going to be a lot of fun with the three tight end, two wide receiver sets. Paris Campbell. You're going to see it.

He's going to call Devin Funchess a tight end right now. Go ahead. Devin Funchess. They'll get rid of the running back quick because they can line Paris Campbell up back there and still have four receivers out if they want to. And literally, they could use both Ebron Doyle and Devin Funchess at the same time. I'm pretty sure.

I actually think this hurts T.Y. Hilton a little bit. I don't know. Look, you certainly made that case. They've just brought in two wide receivers. T.Y. Hilton's going to get his. You said a little bit. Are you going to drop him in your rankings? Are you going to put T.Y. Hilton behind like A.J. Green,

Keenan Allen? I don't know. I already have A.J. Green ahead of T.Y. Hilton. You do? I've got the next guy to drop Hilton behind would be Amari Cooper, and I don't know if I'm heading there. Okay. But I'm over the moon for Mr campbell all right that's wide receiver and

i mean dk metcalf is certainly fun uh he's just he's got he's got a weird he's got like a like this physique that's unbelievable he walked into his interview with Pete Carroll with his shirt off, and then Pete Carroll took his shirt off, and it was funny. And he, like right now, Tyler Lockett, is he skyrocketing up your rankings with this Doug Baldwin news? No. No. He's solidifying the spot that he was in. Here's a question for everybody.

Name the last wide receiver that the Seattle Seahawks groomed and developed into a star receiver. I like it. All right, name another then. He's not a star. He's not a star. Doug Baldwin? No, he was on the – How long did it take Doug to get there?

It was several years, right? Two years? I just don't think there's enough. Even if Baldwin's gone, I'm still not sure there's enough targets for Lockett and Metcalf to be good. So the thing about Lockett is that he scored a bunch of touchdowns. Dave, I gave you this stat earlier. I might forget it. But I think he's had like 20 touchdowns in his career, and six of them have come in the red zone.

So it's just like they need a red zone target. Doug Baldwin led them in red zone targets last year. DK Metcalf. Six of 19 touchdowns. Six of 19. For inside the red zone. Like DK Metcalf fills that role. That makes so much sense. I don't think it's a crazy prediction to say DK Metcalf could lead rookie receivers in touchdown catches.

No. No. No, thank you. We actually, I think, had the over-under on our draft show. I think he scored five last year. Who, Metcalf? Metcalf had five last year? I think so.

I can check. And I think we had the over-under. Would he beat his college numbers in seven games? Yeah, seven games, 569 yards, and five touchdowns. Only 26 catches, but five of them for touchdowns. Right, and so I took the over slightly on the catches, but the touchdowns, I think you could say it's right there if you're going to set the number.

He had seven in 2017. He played 12 games then. That was 2017. It's old news. 12 touchdowns in 19 games for the statue of David. I'm going to get your top three tight ends for 2019. We're going to take a quick break on fantasy football today. Come back and talk tight ends. Kick off an exciting football season with BetMGM, an official sportsbook partner of the National Football League. Yard after yard, down after down,

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Hawkinson, Fant, and Sternberg. For the Packers. Yeah, I would like to see. I think it was WEI reported, which I thought would have made tremendous sense on day three for the Patriots to trade for Kyle Rudolph. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because Irv Smith went to the Minnesota. Yeah. You know, he's in the final year of his deal for Rudolph.

And if they could find a way to make that happen, I think it would be a great fit. You get Rudolph, which I'm sure he's probably upset. He's probably upset. You get him to a team that can clearly need him. Because right now, one of the most overdrafted people in fantasy is going to be Austin Smyrna-Jankins. Probably. You're right. Okay, so you said Hawkinson won, then Sturmburner?

Yeah, but I think Hawkinson and Fant are 1-1A. I think they both are in good situations. Hawkinson should be in a better situation, I hope. But we've seen the Lions. They're the only team in the last 10 years to draft a tight end twice in the first 10 picks. And they completely butchered Eric Ebron. Obviously a different regime, but still. They took a kid who was talented, who was worthy of being a top 10 pick at the time,

or at least a first-round pick at the time. And it's funny. You're going to look back at the 2019 draft, and Daniel Jones' name is going to stick out like a sore thumb just where they took him if his career ends up where a lot of people on the negative side of things think it's going to go. If you look back on the 2014 draft, because you can, Eric Ebron's name jumps off the page. Like, that's the point where, like, they did what? Yeah, and the other two tight ends since, like, 97 that were drafted in the top 10 or whatever it was, was Kellen Winslow and Vernon Davis, and neither of them produced in their rookie year.

Winslow, you know, so, like, I think Hockinson will be okay in 2019. I don't think he's going to be fantastic because he's a rookie tight end. And then you wonder, do the Lions have the same coach next year? Because if Patricia fails after everything that happened this year that you may fire him, is Matthew Stafford still the quarterback there? They could ruin him. Let's go. Jamie has to leave.

Yes, we'll talk about Game of Thrones another time, but just not today. Yeah, what a shame. I'd like to talk about it, but we'll do that some other time. Let's see. Dave, Heath, give me your top three tight ends.

I agree with Jamie. I think it's pretty obvious at this point that Hawkinson won, Fant two, and Jace, don't call me Howard Sternberg, or three. I think it's, like in 2019,

it's probably nope, nope, and nope. But I would put Hawkinson one. I would put Fant two. I do have a little gap between them. I think Hawkinson is more likely to be a top 12 guy. I don't really care who's three for 2019, but I don't hate the chances for maybe Josh Oliver. Josh Oliver going to the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Stern burner is molasses. jaguars stern burner is molasses he is a stern burner he is so slow he is yeah dude he's like three uh four seven five forty well for a tight end that's pretty good what was it that it's not no actually good but it's pretty good jay hawkinson was 470 4.4 70 4.7.7. So just a little better. Just watch Sternbrenner. To me, he just looks like he's stuck in the mud. But don't really care. I mean, he just needs to be a red zone target.

He needs to catch touchdowns, and he's going to the Packers. So that's a beautiful thing. It could be a very beautiful thing. I'm not ready to draft him in seasonal leagues unless it's super late or super deep draft, but he could be what Jimmy Graham never was for Green Bay. The only team that really jumps out as making obvious major investments, well, I guess two improvements on the offensive line would be atlanta and houston atlanta used two first round picks on lineman houston used the first and a second on alignment

although their first round pick is a project as we discussed on friday's show titus howard so is there a second or wherever they took the yeah Yeah, second round. I think Illinois State is where he went. Northern Illinois. Northern Illinois. Max Sharping. Yeah, he's a project, too. Apparently, they were really pissed about Philadelphia jumping them for Andre Dillard. So, yeah, Atlanta really stands out as the team that upgraded the most.

And we'll play a fun game. Can you pronounce the names of the offensive linemen that the Patriots took in rounds three and four? In round three, they took West Virginia offensive linemen. First name is Y-O-D-N-Y. Yodney. Yodney.

Last name is C-A-J-U-S-T-E. C-A-J-U-S-T-E. Cajuste. Is that what it is? I would have butchered that. I believe. Well, he did butcher it. That is not how you pronounce it.

Oh. Well, then I'll take a stab at it. I'll just go with the phonetic. Cajuste. That is correct. Yachtney Cajuste. Now, the second one is harder. Arkansas Guard.

Oh, yeah. Look at this name first name is hj a l t e h j a l t e i'll take what was that what'd you say i'll say okay i'm gonna go with yelda you're a cheater i I am. For this one, I cheated. Yelda is the first name, and then the last one is F-R-O-H-O-L-D-T. Fro-Yo. Just kick out the D. It's Frohold. Yeah. Yelda Frohold and Yadnik Adjust.

I know how to pronounce any name from Denmark saying I cheat. When I'm looking at my computer and reading it. I've got my eyeballs right on the screen. A terrific fantasy team name would be the legend of H-J-A-L-T-E. Because it's the legend of Yelda. Like Zelda. Right? Come on. That's actually really good. Name the last time you named your fantasy team after alignment well that's the thing but i think it's pretty funny so of course i think it's funny i said it uh josh rosen's on

the dolphins yeah we're like 45 minutes into the podcast and we're we're getting to this now. Dave, it's only 40 minutes. Oh, sorry. Josh Rosen is not the Dolphins. The Dolphins front office played 3D chess on the Arizona Cardinals. It was unbelievable. I love what they did. But didn't the Cardinals, the rumor was a month ago that the Cardinals were trying to get a second-round pick for Josh Rosen, right? Okay. And the Cardinals got a second and a fifth-round pick for Josh Rosen.

Okay. I think things went pretty well for the Cardinals. Listen, I'm not saying that it didn't go poorly for them, although they probably could have got the word out a lot sooner about Josh Rosen being available than what they actually did because they didn't want to leak that they were taking Kyler Murray at one. But the, the second round pick they got from Miami came after Miami traded their original second round pick for a future second round pick to move down 15 spots.

Then they traded that pick to get Josh Rosen. They, it was masterful. It was a master stroke by the artist known as Chris Greer. Yeah, I think it was a pick that made sense. And now I think the Dolphins did well in the draft too. I think that they've got – I love the pick of Wilkins for their defensive line. I don't know how well they're going to protect Josh Rosen this year,

but the receiving core isn't bad. Kenyon Drake, I think you can feel a little bit better about taking, now that he doesn't have, what, Miles Gaskins as his new teammate slash competitor? That doesn't worry me. No one's drafting the Dolphins quarterback in a one-quarterback league, but in two QB leagues, I think it's going to be fun to see how Fitzpatrick and Rosen do against each other,

and my hunch is that Rosen wins out. I think we should probably talk about veteran winners more in our next episode, but it's, you know... Sorry, so NFL draft, free agency. The Colts really seem to be invested in Marlon Mack. I think that's awesome. Don't forget about your good friend Lamar Miller.

He's Bill O'Brien's good friend now. Although they signed Karan Higdon from Michigan. What happened to Gerald Willis, Dave? Who knows? What are you talking about, Willis? Biggest follower in the draft. He was ranked. Well, Akeem Butler. Gerald Willis didn't get drafted.

He didn't get drafted. He's a defensive lineman out of Miami. He's a 66th ranked player on CBS and got signed by the Ravens. That was not me. No, it's not us. It wasn't me. I like Butler. I think the opportunity is going to be there for him to play on the outside in Arizona

because almost every other receiver they have there, Kirk can play on the outside. He might be better in the slot, although he's probably not going to be there now that they drafted Isabella. Isabella is a great fit for their offense. I just don't know how many targets he's going to get. I think Larry Fitzgerald is a loser. He's going to see his targets dwindle, and I think Butler could see quite a few targets.

Speaking of Larry Fitzgerald, I'd like to wish a happy 86th birthday to Willie Nelson. What does that have to do with Larry Fitzgerald? He's old. Willie Nelson's old. Willie Nelson is old. So the other thing we're going to do on our next show is a dynasty draft, which we do every year, usually the second episode after the NFL draft.

Rookie-only draft, right? Yeah, rookie-only dynasty draft. I'm ready. I've already got my top 40 for the rookie draft. I do, too. I'm just trying to see if there's anyone that we need to talk about that we haven't spoken about. The Cardinals added three receivers. They added

Andy Isabella in round two, Hakeem Butler in round four, and Keyshawn Johnson in round six. The Seahawks added three receivers round two, round four, and round seven. Yeah, Gary Jennings is a good one for them. I just don't know how fantasy impactful he

will be. The Bears drafted Riley Ridley in round four. Wide receiver. He's a solid player. I don't see him being a huge contributor for them, maybe ever.

There will be three weeks where he leads the team in targets. Right, sure. Three weeks where he has two targets. Sure. I don't think he's ever going to be somebody that you'll want to have on your fantasy team. Not like his brother. Riley's his middle name, by the way. Oh, yeah? His brother's Calvin Ridley. Did I say that?

His brother is Calvin, and his name is Kevin, which is spelled Calvin without the L. Oh, interesting. Both of these guys were neighbors of mine. What? Yeah. What? Yeah. What did I say? They were neighbors of yours? They grew up in the town in which I live.

In Florida? I live in Florida, yes. Not the town you grew up in? No, I did not grow up with them. You're in the current, like they were recently neighbors. My current day hometown. Which is in Florida.

They shared a high school with where my son now goes. My son will not break their records. Your son went to high school with the Ridley brothers. No, he's going to the high school the Ridley brothers went to. Except Riley went to a different high school his senior year. Riley is your son. Nope. I'm totally kidding. I'm totally year. Riley is your son. Nope. I'm totally kidding.

I'm totally kidding. I'm totally kidding. I understood. I understood a long time ago. Riley is my son. Calvin is not. Okay, I got you. I'm being,

they're both good kids from this area. I forgot to mention our draft contest. I'll announce it again on, I think we're pretty much done here. I'll announce it again on – I think we're pretty much done here. I'll announce it again on Thursday's show. I believe we'll be back on Thursday. So if you got six or more picks correct, and it's not just – it's not just I got six of the ten that were drafted in the top ten.

It has to be in order. I got like one, two, three, four, eight, nine, whatever. It has to be in order. I got like 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, whatever. It has to be in order. Keep that in mind. If you got six or more correct, send me an email. Even if you've already forwarded me the original email, what I want you to do is instead of forwarding me the original email, I want you to send me a fresh email that says, I got six right. I got seven right. And then I will check because you can manipulate your forwarded email. You could go back and change what it originally said.

I'm going to make sure that this contest does not have any cheaters. So send me an email, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com, only if you got six or more right. And I will go back and I will look and I will confirm that you got six or more right. If anybody has seven, you probably won. I will break any ties randomly. Oh, no. If you projected Daniel Jones correctly,

is the tiebreaker. Says who? I just did. Okay, fine. Fine. That means he's going to go through all of them. Well, what if the two teams or the two entries that tied didn't have Daniel Jones? What's the next tiebreaker? It's randomly, like Adam said.

That's randomly, okay. They have to play rock, paper, scissors via Skype. Understood. Now, Benny Snell is my mail carrier's sister's son. And he went to day camp with my son's best friend's cousin. Did you see over the weekend that Adam said Daniel Jones is Phil Simms? No. This is interesting. Because Heath said that, rightfully so.

The funny thing is I don't really disagree with Heath. Have you seen anyone with stats as bad as Daniel Jones be good in the NFL? And we couldn't think of any on the air. And then Phil Simms did have bad stats, worse than Daniel Jones in college. And he had a great career. He won one Super Bowl. He probably would have won two Super Bowls if he didn't get hurt. And, yeah, well, I don't know if I should say that, but, you know, he's better than Jeff Hostetler.

Okay, here's an example of a guy who had bad stats in college and ended up with a great, excellent, really good career. So that was my example. All right, Gettleman. What? Did you have anything to say? The only thing I'll say is that my favorite waiter at my favorite Italian restaurant knows the uncle of Devin Singletary. That could be. But Heath, I mean, Heath seemed to think that Phil Simms had a bad NFL career. That could be. But Heath,

Heath seemed to think that Phil Simms had a bad NFL career. Numerous times I stated, and you can find the tweets, I am not saying that Phil Simms had a bad career. I never said that he had a bad career. So basically, the Phil Simms

example holds up. Yes, it does. Because he played in college in the 70s. The standards for drafting an NFL quarterback were different in the 70s than they are in 2019. I'm sure even if Daniel Jones had just put this season together in 1979 and had his height and his size, he'd be the number one overall pick and he might have been a Hall of Famer. Okay, but he's... You're right.

I don't like the Daniel Jones pick. I don't want to defend it, but Phil Simms had bad stats. I'm not. I'm just saying Phil Simms was the answer to the question. Bad stats, good career. Okay. There we go. You did it, Adam. We did it, Dave. We did it, Dave.

We did? Dave Ridley. What's crazy is that my fraternity brother's younger brother. Thank you very much. Oh, you're talking about me? Yeah. That's the one that's true. Yeah.

That's Dave. Wait, the Ridley brothers didn't really live in your neighborhood? No, they didn't. Goodbye, everyone. I don't know Benny Snow. Da-da-da-da-da-da. Da.