Fantasy Football Today - 0.5 PPR Mock Draft Review! (06/27 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 27, 2022

Follow our mock draft here: https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/fantasy-football-mock-pre-training-camp-half-point-ppr-draft-has-christian-mccaffrey-over-jonathan-taylor/ The case for Kyle Pitts in Round 3, Robert Woods in Round 7 and Courtland Sutton ahead of some very talented WRs. Before that, let's start with an email about Dallas Goedert (2:55) and your updated news and notes (7:50) ... We give our big takeaways on our 0.5 PPR mock draft (12:30) including the best picks and the worst picks (14:30). Did Adam reach for Kyle Pitts in Round 3? Also, which picks will make or break our teams (24:00)? For Heath, it could be Woods in Round 7 (26:00) ... A look at the Round 3 RBs (30:45) and how they compare to 2021 Round 3 RBs. Then we review the first four rounds of the draft (36:30) including an A.J. Brown discussion (38:30) and we review our teams (43:30) and have a long talk about Sutton (54:15) ... Your emails at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Happy Monday, everybody. Hope you had a great weekend. We are talking about a half PPR mock draft. Christian McCaffrey was the number one overall pick. Alvin Kamara was the 12th pick. That might change with the news of a possible suspension. He's bracing for a suspension of six or more games.

So we'll talk about that draft a little bit, how our teams look, picks we like, picks we don't like, and such. Good morning, Jamie and Heath. Heath, you have a smile on your face. You look happy. You look ready to go. I'm just so happy to be here,

and every time I hear your voice, that's what my face does. Not sure about that. Jamie, how do you feel about the miami hurricanes actually not outbidding but beating the gators on a star recruit quarterback yesterday when the gators were offering him an 11 million dollar nil and he took a measly 9.5 million dollar nil from Miami. I heard that that was BS, but I tend to believe that's probably true.

But in any event, yeah, welcome to the NIL world. Welcome. Congratulations. Hopefully he's wonderful for you. I hope so. I had a fun experience this morning.

We have a cactus, small, tiny cactus in our kitchen. Please fall on it. Please tell me you fell on it. No, but I was cleaning something up near it and I didn't realize that the towel must have brushed up against it. And somehow I got a piece of the cactus in my hand and there's like little tiny thorns in my hand. Boy, you know, that's less funny than I thought when I wanted you to have fallen in it. Now I just feel bad. That sounds tough.

Hope you're okay. Hope you don't have to take the show off. Alright, so we'll talk about that mock draft. We have some news. You can definitely take a show off for that. Wait, I wouldn't take a show off for that? Are you kidding? You take shows off for everything. What? That's not fair. B.S.

All right. That was the highest pitch my voice gets, by the way. What? So we got updates on Chris Godwin, Deshaun Watson, Debo Samuel, and... You found an update? What's that? You found an update on Godwin? No, I was going to throw it to you for that. Oh, I

mean, we can't use that. We can't? We don't have an update on Chris Godwin. All right. Email, I mean, we can't use that. We can't? We don't have an update on Chris Gowen. All right. Email of the day, though. I think we should do that when we do the Beavis and Butthead story.

I'm giving you one minute on this email. It's from Dylan in Chicago. Subject, spice for Adam. Remember, I asked our emailers to spice it up a little bit with your questions. He says,

Hey, cinnamon, clove, and nutmeg. Those are spices. With the release of the top five tight ends, I have a case for Dallas Goddard. With the addition of A.J. Brown to the Eagles, you're all expecting the Eagles to throw more.

You're expecting Jalen Hurts to become a potential top five quarterback or break into the top QB conversation. That, of course, is in fantasy, not in real life. But if that's the case, Goddard is currently a steal in the nine to 10 plus rounds of most drafts. I have to check that ADP. The Eagles parted ways with Zach Ertz, so Goddard is currently a steal in the 9-10 plus rounds of most drafts.

I have to check that ADP. The Eagles parted ways with Zach Ertz, so Goddard is their guy. I also think the Eagles and Raiders are built very similarly with wide receiver one additions, but you are all much higher on Darren Waller than Dallas Goddard. One minute on the clock, this is the case for Dallas Goddard as an easy top five tight end. I don't know who he would be easily ahead of in the top five tight end. Yeah, I don't know who he would be easily ahead of in the top five tight ends.

And the reason that we're much higher on Waller is because Waller has shown us the ability to be an elite tight end. But if they throw the ball league average, which is almost 600 times, then yeah, Goddard would be a steal in round 9-10. He went round 8 in the mock draft we're going

to review today um two picks before me and it may have been one of the best picks of the drafts i think i was considering taking him right before tarot it you kind of break up the tight end rankings or tiers or however you know the list of guys that you're going to be drafting we know the top five and that's even broken up. Top two, you know, Pitts, and then the other two who could still be very good in terms of Waller and Kittle. And then this next group of guys, which is basically Schultz, who I think we all agree is the best of that group,

Goddard, Ertz, and Hawkinson. Am I missing somebody there of that? Goddard, Ertz. No. All right, thanks. Those four. Those four feel like the ones that we usually always reach for, the ones that we kind of always get burned by. I do think Gotter's got a tremendous upside.

I mean, the pedigree is there. We've seen when he was the second guy in his – it was either his rookie year or second year. I think was second year when he um was a top 10 fantasy tight end and and was you know playing great with arts in tandem with arts so hopefully this is the year he puts it all together um there there's you know clearly if the offense throws the ball more if he gets the targets that he needs if jalen hurts is you know taking that step forward that we're hoping for then he's got a great opportunity i i just think If Jalen Hurts is, you know, taking that step forward that we're hoping for, then he's got a great opportunity.

I just think the value is perfect. Like he said, you know, you're getting a potential top five guy. I don't think he's going to finish in the top five, barring injury to the guys in front of him, but he's got the potential to do it. So yeah, he's a, he's a, he's a great or late type of guy. Not as late as you'd like to go, but certainly in that category. Yeah. Dallas Goddard had five or more targets in nine games. In those nine games, he scored 12 or more PPR fantasy points seven times. And that's terrific. There were only six tight ends who

averaged 12 PPR fantasy points per game. And when he had five or more targets, he did that in seven of nine games. Problem is, his target, he didn't get targeted really when Zach Ertz was there. So now what are you going to do when A.J. Brown is there? And they were throwing the ball

like 34 times a game when Zach Ertz and Dallas Goddard were there and he averaged four targets per game. So, all right, a lot to think about there and a lot more time

to discuss Dallas Goddard. Thank you for the spicy email, Dylan in Chicago. Speaking of Chicago, we are not sure. We think it might be Dave's birthday today. No, Dylan in Chicago. Speaking of Chicago, we are not sure. We think it might be Dave's birthday today. No, no, no. Who said that?

Someone. It's July. Didn't you say it was Dave's birthday? No, no, no, no. I just wanted to see if you'd buy it. Oh, really? Why do you keep saying things that I'm not allowed to say? What is this?

I mean, you can say this. I thought it was Dave's birthday. No, it was birthday July 24th. Birthday to Chris Godwin. Never mind. Dave was in Chicago over the weekend. I thought it was his birthday. Dave will be back tomorrow.

And tomorrow, Tuesday, we have a live Scott Fishbowl mock draft. And hopefully Scott will be joining us. No, no, no. It's not tomorrow. Yes, it is. All right. Live mock draft. When will Scott be joining us?

He's sick, actually. So he might be able to. He'll probably be on, but he gave me a heads up that he's not feeling great. Hopefully he feels better. Yeah. So Scott Fish.

I might not be on either if this cactus thing is bad. Get an infection man anyway it's a super flex mock draft it's tight end premium yes it's specific to the Scott Fish Bowl

format however there are plenty of takeaways you can get from it you know even if you're not playing in anything like the Scott Fish Bowl

so join us 1pm Eastern youtube.com slash fantasy football today and please go there and subscribe to the channel. He kept the third round reversal again, right?

Better have because I selected my draft slot accordingly. Yep, he did. All right. News and notes. We do not have a Chris Godwin update, but Debo Samuel has not officially rescinded his no trade request, according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler. Yes. He has not officially rescinded his no trade request, according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler. Yes.

He has not officially rescinded his what? Trade request. That's not what you just said, and that's not what the notes say. His trade. His no trade request is what you said. I didn't say no trade. I wrote it. You did.

I haven't been sleeping very well. So, yeah, he might still want to be no traded. Yeah. He has not. Debo has not rescinded his trade request. It's not like a formal piece of paper. Well, yeah, I guess he hasn't said don't trade me. But things seem good there.

Deshaun Watson's hearing will begin Tuesday, and we don't know how long things will last. We don't know when a decision will come, but more and more talk about a long suspension for Watson. I've pulled him from my rankings. I'm going to do that today, and I'm going to drop Kamara this morning as well because I hadn't done that yet.

How far did you drop Kamara? It's weird because you know this, but our rankings will lock for a period of about two or three days because they pull them for our magazine. And so I don't want to drop them to the point where there may not be a suspension because when the magazine comes out, I would like to have them ranked somewhat accordingly if he's playing.

So I just put him at 12. And other news? Oh, no way. I want to give you the T.Y. Hilton numbers. T.Y. Hilton played from 2016 to 2019. Andrew Luck, Jacoby Brissett, Andrew Luck, Jacoby Brissett. He went from 1,448 yards with Luck

to 966 with Brissett to 1,270 with luck to 501 in 10 games with Brissette. Jacoby Brissette is fantasy poison. So bad. So we'll see what happens. Dalton Schultz and the Cowboys are not close to an extension, according to Michael Gelkin of the Dallas Morning News. Does this change your Dalton Schultz thoughts at all? Not yet. No, if anything, it might give me a little more risk for dynasty value,

but not for redraft. And Tampa Bay tight end Cade Otten could be the top option at tight end for the Bucs, according to Scott Smith of.com quick thought kate i would he's certainly a dynasty uh person player to uh target um you know in probably the third round i would say most rookie only drafts uh for redraft i would probably look to avoid the bucks tight ends initially unless you're you know tight end premium your draft is really deep in which case you could take a swing at one of the two great or on but i just don't really think either one to start the season is one you want to trust unless something changes in training camp i think this puts a little bit of like a

concern in the great or bright tight end this puts a little bit of a concern in the great or bright tight end strategy. I'm going to go back to Jamie's greater list. Great or bright? Make tight end bright again? Yeah, I like that. All right, so let's get into our half PPR mock draft. I mean, Gronk's going to play again.

He's coming back at some point later in the season. You think so? Well, according to the report that we cannot talk about, there's also the thought of they're gearing up for a late season run that Gronk will probably be joining them.

So should I drop Gronk or no? I have the one team, my real team. I have Gronk. Should you drop him? Since you can't IR him? Right. Yes, you should drop him. Yeah, I got to drop him. Yeah.

All right, let's talk about our Happy BR mock draft. You can see the draft. Actually, I should put a link to it. I'll put a link to the story in the episode description. But if you just go to our fantasy page, cbssports.com. Can you put it in the YouTube comments too? Yes, I can. I'll do that.

It's a great idea, Jamie. Can you just let me finish my sentence though? If you go to cbssports.com slash fantasy slash football, on your way there, do not put your hand on a cactus. You will see, as of right now, the lead story is pre-training camp, half PPR mock draft, and there is a picture of Christian McCaffrey

in a camo hoodie, giving a thumbs up. So you can follow the draft there. I'll put the link in the episode description, and I'll put the link in YouTube in a moment. Give me the best pick of the draft, Heath Cummings, not from your team. Best pick of the draft. Round 14, Adam Azer took Khalil Herbert,

and I think he should go up closer to the round 10, round 11 handcuffed running backs. Because I expect this to be a better than expected rushing offense. And if something happens to Montgomery, Herbert's going to have real value. And it's possible that these two guys have an Aaron Jones, A.J. Dillon type thing. And they're both valuable yeah it was you could have really chosen anything from my team but khalil herbert works we're gonna choose something else from your team in just a moment jv what was the best pick of this draft uh i like the russell gates election around nine, with the potential of Chris Godwin's injury lingering, according to some reports, the fact that Gage could not only benefit with Al Gronk there now, and if Godwin is out to

start any portion of the season, I'd move him closer to a round seven pick. And so I think Russell Gage in round nine was a steal by Tara. Oh, I had another one of Tara's picks that I liked. And it wasn't one where I say, oh, well, he should definitely be going ahead of some others. But I just love getting Nick Chubb. She got Nick Chubb 18th overall after DeAndre Swift, after Aaron Jones. But this is where Nick Chubb has finished per game in half PPR the last three seasons, ninth, seventh, and tenth.

And that tenth is a little bit low to me because he did leave Week 18 with an injury pretty early and probably would have had a huge game because Dearness Johnson did and it was against Bengals backups for what it's worth. But half PPR Nick Chubb, 18th overall,

was, I thought, really good. You guys agree? Disagree? Normal value? Normal. It's probably like my fourth favorite tara pick in the draft like dallas goddard where she got him better in round eight okay uh worst pick heath not from your own team uh adam azar round three kyle pitts and this is just a disagreement that i have with with everybody else um i i've got pitts round five pick. He's the only player that was taken in the first three rounds.

It's not in my top 50, so it's a pretty easy selection as the worst pick in the draft. I think what would be interesting, though, for you, because you've talked about this a lot and done a really good job of like, just because a guy finishes here at tight end doesn't necessarily mean he's worth this.

What does Kyle Pitts need to do this year to be worth a round three pick? His stats are where he needs to finish. His stats. He needs to have 1,100 yards and six touchdowns? Something like that? And more catches than last year too, right? Yeah. More catches.

What did he have last year? 60? I think he had 61. Yeah. So let's say 70 catches. I mean, I'm not doing the math. I don't know if this yards per catch is crazy, but 70 catches, 1,100 yards, six touchdowns.

I think he could do that. Yeah. It's possible. But we did find a number of tight ends who had five, five ish touchdowns and finished in the top three. Like Kittle's done it a few times. Uh, it's,

it's possible. Right. Um, I was, I was, what I was trying to do while you were saying that was like, get the difference. Cause five more touchdowns would have been what?

30 fantasy points last year. And he could have had seven more from the yardage that you're saying so 37 more so two more fantasy points per game would have put him at 12.4 which would have been 0.2 more points than dalton schultz scored last year i mean i think you could argue dalton schultz was worth a third round pick probably not more like a fourth or fifth round pick i guess but i don't know mean, I just don't approach it that way. It's like, this guy's got immense potential. Plus another,

no, you do approach it that way when you're talking about drafting tight ends early in the draft often. Uh, yes. For, uh, for yes.

Okay. So where did Dalton Schultz finish? Okay. Dalton Schultz was number five on a per game basis last year, two points behind number four. And how many wide receivers average 12? Let's see.

I would guess 30, but I don't know. 38-ish. I guess he would need to... That's so weird. 1,106 touchdowns and he's not... Doesn't that feel like a third-round pick? Well, again, he had – I don't know how many catches you would want to –

he needs a lot more catches too. They just need a lot more volume. He needs to basically – it's not – I think that he needs to basically improve in all the categories. It's not just score more touchdowns and have a few more yards. Yeah, I hope he will. And it's also at that point in the draft, it was ninth pick of round

three. I just don't love the picks after that. Chris Godwin, Antonio Gibson, Ezekiel Elliott, Josh Allen, J.K. Dobbins. Dobbins is a no-brainer if he's ready for week one. It's a great pick, but he might start on pup. So I think you reach a point in the draft there where

there really aren't a lot of players I love. I mean, you're shooting for the upside of what pits can be. Do you have a problem with that pick, Jamie? What do you think? I like pits there. I don't have a problem with it, but I also think that he's going to exceed the numbers that you listed. I don't know. Maybe I

sold him short. Maybe I'm still stuck in 16 game mode. How many catches did he have last year? 61. I'd probably put him at 80 this year. That'd be good. He had 68 last year. 71, I think I said, was too short.

We'll give him 80. That would probably do it. That would probably... It still would have made him tight end 5, a point and a half behind tight end four last year. But, but then this comes down to the question we got last week, points per game or total points. Cause Kittle's points per game are typically going to be good,

but how many games is he going to miss? Cause you have to kind of bake that in with him. And Waller missed what? Six games last year, eight games last year. Yeah. Waller was behind him. It was actually Gronk who missed five games.

Was ahead of him. And the other point I'd make... Sorry, go ahead. Is Waller at the point where you have to start to worry about missing time? You know, with some of these guys? Just because they're getting up in age? I don't think that...

I mean, I'm not worried about Waller's age, but I am worried about Waller in general. And, you know, bringing in Devontae Adams. We've been talking about this. The tight ends have had bad situations, so it's possible that it's just a... But so is he, potentially. Maybe, but as I made the point yesterday,

he went for over 1,000 yards, and if you just look at the raw passing numbers from the Falcons, they were absolutely terrible. There's really no reason why they can't be 3,900 yards and 20 touchdowns or whatever they were last year with the, with the crap they have now that they were not a good passing team last year. And he still went over a thousand yards as a rookie tight end. So I think that it might be

an even worse year for tight ends and he will stand out more. Yeah, he could stand out more. No, I, I, I mean, I, I agree just based on what he could do and that's the hope, which is why you're drafting him in that spot. i mean this is where you know you know you guys differ a little bit i tend to lean toward you know what your thought process is here adam is that you're drafting for not necessarily the ceiling but close to the ceiling whereas heath is more looking at it i think as the floor you know where's the floor for cow pits and the floor is hopefully what he did a year ago which is still pretty impressive, but is he going to get

north of three touchdowns? Is he going to get north of five touchdowns? That's kind of the question because we just haven't seen it. I didn't love the pick. I didn't think it was the worst, but I did love it. Jamie, what was the worst pick? The worst pick... I'm a little torn on

the choice, but I did not like, where is it? Pick one, one of mine. What was the one of yours? It was... I have a good one, actually. Tell us yours. I think Chris taking Amandra St. Brown and TJ Hawkinson back-to-back,

end of round six, beginning of round seven, 72 and 73 overall. I really think you are dramatically limiting your upside by taking those two guys, Hawkinson and Amonra St. Brown. And it's half PPR. It's not even full PPR. So I think that's a really bad turn, quite frankly. Schneier makes fun of me in a mock draft we did last year. I drafted Texans

with back-to-back picks, David Johnson and Brandon Cooks. This is the same idea. I know they're going to be better, but St. Brown and Hawkinson, to me, they kind of limit each other. They're similar. I really didn't like... I just don't think... Individually, you could argue for them, but together, I think

that's a bad strategy. I think those Texans you took are a good example. One of them absolutely smashed where you took him, Brandon Cooks, and one of them you dropped, David Johnson. Yeah, this was a mock, an early mock. But yeah, and I don't remember what round it was. It was like 5-6, I think. It was not 5-6.

Probably 5, well, 5-6 or 6-7, because that's where Brandon Cooks is always drafted. I think it may have been 6-7. five, six, probably five. Well, five, six or six, seven. That's where Brandon cooks is always drafted. I think it may be at that point. He was definitely going later. Could have been four or five. Nobody wanted it at that point. It was definitely, it was two,

three. All right. So that's my pick. Jamie, what's a better pick though? Hawkinson or St. Brown? To me,

I'd say St. Brown, but yeah, I'd say Hawkinson. Well, he also took Hawkinson in front of Schultz. Right. A lot of things are going to have to change for TJ Hawkinson to be a bad pick at the end of round six

and Kyle Pitts to be a good pick at the end of round three. Yeah. A lot. I got an enormous change. I don't really view it that way. I mean, you're missing the point here, Heath. What is the year where players exceed projections? They just have big years that you couldn't have projected.

They're what season? Second or third. Second, yeah. Second or third. I don't even think about that with Kyle Pitts. I don't even think about it. How can he get that? He's Kyle Pitts.

He's pedigree. He's great rookie season. This is his second year. This is when you have to get him. This is the latest he'll ever go in drafts. All those things are true. I'm just saying, like, looking at it from a, like, how big the change has to be for Hawkinson to be bad at the end of round six compared to Pitts at the end of round three

based on what happened last year. It's a massive change. Well, again, you're also talking about a player in Hawkinson that has yet to play a full season. And they've added so many parts to this offense. And he didn't really play with the Amonra St. Brown emergence. Only one game. That is one way to phrase it.

Jamie, do you have a... Yes, I do. Is this my best show or my worst show? I've enjoyed it the most. Okay, good. What's your worst pick, Jamie? It's Chris Godwin in round three. Just tough to trust somebody there

who could be out first in the season if that is the potential but I think even in round 3 at this point I don't know if you would even take him in round 3 right now the chance of him missing the start of the season is certainly a realistic possibility so Godwin in round 3 is just not the right spot for him. What's a pick that will make or break your team, Heath?

A pick that will make or break my team. I think you should go first on this one. I'm going to say AJ Dillon. He is my RB2. You should say Kyle Pitts. Well, I don't think, like, I don't think Kyle Pitts is going to be bad, right? I mean, what's the worst? Tight end eight, something like that. He's not going to be bad. What's the worst? Tight end eight? Something like that.

He's not going to be a guy I'm dropping. Dylan, I don't think I'm going to drop him either. But I do think he's got serious potential to score eight touchdowns and have 10 to 12 carries a game. Maybe. Who knows? But I think he could be a game breaker for me. And obviously, if there's an Aaron Jones injury, he's a league winner.

So I have Mixon and A.J. Dillon as my two running backs. Dillon was drafted in round five for me. So he was 67th overall. Jamie, make a break pick for you. I'll tie them together, which also factors in A.J. Dillon, which is Terry McLaurin in round five, which is a spot where I was considering Dillon because of how I have it ranked it was also Dillon or Miles Sanders but at that point I had gone one running back two receivers in a tight end and so

did not have a second running back but then I did take my second running back at the end of round six which is Kareem Hunt and so it's kind of that whole position decision of third receiver with a uh without a second running back at that point and so you know i guess kareem hunt will be the guy that that makes or breaks my roster but if terry mclaurin is not a top 20 caliber wide receiver if not top 15 and i don't you know have not a stranglehold at the wide receiver position but a pretty good stranglehold at the wide receiver position close to it with the way I built my team, then not having a quality second running back

and kind of mixing and matching in that spot could go the wrong direction if the other guys that I threw a lot of capital at don't come through. Yeah, and I'll go with my old wide receivers in the 6'7 range, Adam Thielen and Robert Woods. Both of them, when they're their best, could be top 12 wide receivers. Both of them are old, coming off injuries, and could be absolute dust. Because Keenan Allen's the only receiver I took before those two, and Drake London's the next receiver I took after those two, I really need one of those guys to be a top 20 wide receiver.

Woods was one of the guys I looked at in terms of what I thought was a bad pick. I don't, I don't like him that soon personally because I just don't know what the volume is going to be in that offense and how good or bad is Traylon Burke's going to be. And you know, how healthy is Robert Woods at this point in his career,

he just kind of laid it out. But when you start to look at the other receivers around him it's hard to argue that he's not he shouldn't be in this group or in this conversation now the one guy that kind of stood out to me a little bit was Tyler Lockett I think we're giving up on him a little bit too soon uh that he's fallen into round eight now at this point at least in this draft um but Woods you know hopefully is is at 100 and can kind of live up to what he was prior to getting hurt with the Rams. Yeah, Woods was a candidate for me. I was going to say worst pick on that.

Maybe we just have to get used to the idea of him going this early. But he's middle of round seven for Heath. So that's about 76th overall, something like that. What's your thought process there? And as Jamie mentioned, it's not like the wide receivers after are so great. Christian Kirk, Elijah Moore, Hopkins, Devontae Smith, Drake Rookies. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead.

I actually like the receivers in the next round a lot better. Yeah, I think the video of him cutting and turning as quickly as he was at this stage in his rehab gives me confidence that he's going to be a full go by week one. And the fact that he's been on the field a lot more during OTAs than Traylon Burks has gives me thought that he might be the wide receiver one on this offense. And we've pretty much underestimated Robert Woods' entire career. Why don't you say that, though? He was terrible in Buffalo. Right. I'm sorry.

Since he got to the Rams. We didn't even think about him when he was in Buffalo, really, I guess. Here are his receiving yards per game, Robert Woods' last four seasons with the Rams. 76.2, 75.6. Excellent. 58.5, 61.8. Not very good. And if you're thinking about where he has finished in fantasy,

always have to remember that his rushing attempts, his rushing totals have certainly helped. But even without them, I mean, he'd be a steal where you got him. But he's 30 years old. Yeah, all right, make or break. I think that's a good choice for make or break thank you it's a very uh interesting pick robert woods okay um heath tell me if you think this is funny we laughed we're about to do fft and five last night we're talking about this draft and uh 10 30 at night or whatever.

And we're about to go on. I'm like, okay, three, two. And Jimmy goes, wait, don't ask me about my team.

Cause I don't have my glasses on and I can't see. That is funny. Oh, great. I'm going to have to read. It's like, you're gonna have to read it to me. I don't remember what I drafted.

He's going to say, what do you think about your pick around round four? I don't know. Can't see it. All right, well, let's take a quick break here. I want to talk about the running backs that went in round three and how they compare this year to in previous seasons. This is a bad year to be taking round three running

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the running backs in this draft were David Montgomery with the first pick. Javante Williams, two picks later. James Conner, Cam Akers, Antonio Gibson, and Ezekiel Elliott. Six running backs. Montgomery, Javante, James Conner, Cam Akers, Antonio Gibson, Ezekiel Elliott.

Jamie, what do you think in general about that group of six? I mean, I like them a lot. It's, you know, hopefully they stay healthy and can, you know, play to their potential. But this is typically the start of where these guys start to fail, unfortunately. I mean, you can see the flaws for all of them. If Melvin Gordon is still relevant and good, Javante Williams in round three is not great. If James Conner can't stay healthy, then that's not great.

Akers, same thing. And then Gibson, the commanders feel like they were trying to replace him this offseason and may have, and Brian Robinson bringing back JD McKissick and Zeke, we know what the potential fallbacks can be. If Tony Pollard is better and he struggles again, and it really wasn't the knee injury or the knee injury was the start of just him being done. So, but I mean, you know, you see, you know, some,

some workhorse potential in these guys and hopefully they can fulfill it, but you know, it's a, it's the risk you take with passing on some of the receivers in this spot and taking some of these running backs. I think we should circle back at some point, though, and look at Dave's team because he went three running backs to start his team. Big surprise there. And then look at the receivers.

I thought he recovered well with the receivers that he took, but interesting start to his team. Yeah, I took three of four, running back through my first four picks. And this was a draft that made me change my David Montgomery strategy, at least when Chris is picking where he is. Because David Montgomery was my top running back available at the end of round two. And I just never take him there because I can always get him in round three and Chris took him with the first pick at round three.

So I do have him slightly ahead of the rest of these guys, but he's a he's a two three type running back. And these guys, the six again, in case you've forgotten David Montgomery, Javante Williams, James Connor, Cam Akers, Antonio Gibson and Ezekiel Elliott. The wide receivers drafted in this round were A.J. Brown, Keenan Allen, and remember, Keenan Allen went to Heath.

Probably a second round pick in full PPR. This is half PPR. So A.J. Brown, Keenan Allen, Michael Pittman, T. Higgins, Chris Godwin, which we already said was too early. Kyle Pitts was the other pick in this round. All right, how does it compare to those six? Montgomery, Javante, Connor, Akers, Gibson, Zeke, compared to last year's third round,

according to Fantasy Football Calculator ADP from 2021? Montgomery, Jacobs, James Robinson, DeAndre Swift, and Daryl Henderson. That's a really good round of running backs, right? It ended up, I know Robinson got hurt, Henderson got hurt, but when they were healthy, Swift too. Montgomery, Jacobs, Robinson, Swift, and Henderson. Yes, there were a lot of injuries in this group,

but you can't really complain about the performance. Solid group there last year. Well, I mean, Henderson was okay. I think Henderson, first, he was the last pick for what it's worth he was 36th um i think he's absolutely performable enough to justify that well that's always kind of the debate i think as i understand it with the dead zone is whether it starts at the beginning of round three or at the end of round three i think most people who who avoid that round that area with running backs don't want to take running backs in round four through seven, for sure,

or four through six. But there's enough running backs, especially in industry drafts, that are falling back into round three that I think we'll have to at least say the dead zone starts in round four this year. Maybe Zeke will be the official start of the dead zone. Do you see more concerns with this group this year

in terms of maybe workload compared to last year, if we can all think back? Montgomery, did he have workload concerns? No. Jacobs, yeah? With Kenyon Drake coming in, yes? Yeah, I mean, Jacobs really didn't take off until Drake's and Waller's injuries from where he was as a pass? Yes. Yeah, I mean, Jacobs really didn't take off until Drake's and Waller's injuries

from where he was as a pass catcher. Yeah. James Robinson, I'd say no. No, that's why he bounced up to the third round because of the injury to Etienne. DeAndre Swift was injured

and he fell. And then Daryl Henderson, I guess there were questions about his role. We didn't know that he would just start. Well, the Sonny Michel trade right before the season raised some concerns. Remember all the Jake Funk and Xavier Jones type? It was fun.

And then you have Montgomery, workload concerns for Montgomery this year? No? Not for me, no. No. Javante, yes. Yeah, to a degree. Yeah. Last year, he's not worth a third-round pick.

Javante, before they re-signed Melvin Gordon, was a borderline first-round pick. Right. James Conner, workload concerns? Slight. Not really in round three, but yeah. cam makers uh yes

antonio gibson yeah oh yeah ezekiel elliott yep yeah okay so we're gonna go through the first four rounds i don't even know that we have to give too much analysis but just in case people are curious you know jamie says this is more or less what you can through the first four rounds. I don't even know that we have to give too much analysis, but just in case people are curious, Jamie says this is more or less what you can expect the first round to look like, with the exception, perhaps, of Alvin Kamara, who went 12th. McCaffrey was one. Taylor is going to be one in ADP. Worry more about who they are, not where they went.

McCaffrey, Taylor, Derrick Henry, Cooper Cup, Austin Eckler, Najee Harris, Justin Jefferson, Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, Travis Kelsey, Jamar Chase, and Alvin Kamara. That was round one. Round two, Swift, Devante Adams, Aaron Jones, Stefan Diggs, Mark Andrews, Nick Chubb, CeeD. Lamb, Leonard Fournette, Debo Samuel,

Saquon Barkley, Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill. Man, there are not 12 second round picks. Not yet. Hopefully there will be. Where does it start for you where you go, ooh, this is not a second round pick um well i mean it's just there's reason to be very uncomfortable with lamb four net debo barkley tyreek all in round three or round two not in round three they're all great round three picks which means mike evans is a solidified round two pick because you didn't think right now. You didn't mention him, right?

Right. Right. What about Fournette? Fournette was your pick. Yeah, I would have taken Montgomery if I thought that somebody might take him. I've got a little bit concerned with him. If he shows up in training camp in shape,

I'm fine with him in round two. Right. 100% agreed. Okay, round three, Montgomery. We talked a lot about this already. Montgomery, A.J. 100% agreed. Round three, Montgomery. We talked a lot about this already. Montgomery, A.J. Brown, Javante Williams, James Conner, Keenan Allen, Michael Pittman, T. Higgins, Cam Akers, Kyle Pitts, Chris Godwin, Antonio Gibson, Ezekiel Elliott.

I think there's some guys. You could see Akers for sure with a the round up in that round two discussion. Correct. And I think A.J. Brown and Keenan Allen around two picks personally. I have some A.J. Brown concerns. I definitely think he makes sense. In fact, I took him right at this two, three turn with the first overall pick. I went Taylor and then A.J. Brown. I think it was 24-25 for me in a draft we did last week. I get it here, but you know, I guess my concerns are health. I don't know how

fair that is. But also, I just worried a little bit about the passing offense, and I like Devontae Smith. He might be the, I would say he's probably going to be the second best receiver that Brown's ever played with. I think Julio Jones was better but wasn't really able to stay healthy. And I have concerns about Jalen Hurst.

I have concerns about the amount of passing touchdowns there will be. Tannehill was a ridiculously efficient quarterback, and then last year Brown wasn't as good and Tannehill wasn't as good. So do you share any of those concerns, or are you comfortable with him in round two? Like comfortable, confident with him in round two, A.J. Brown? I'm confident with him in round two, but I also think that Jalen Hurts is going to improve

and they're going to allow him to throw the ball more than they did last year, which we've talked about ad nauseum, that the first half of the season they were very pass happy. Then it almost coincided with the Zacherts trade and just realizing that they needed to run the ball more and then their run offense was so successful that they just stuck with it. And so, you know, we'll see a balance, but I think that will swing back in the favor of them throwing the ball on a

higher percentage than they do run the ball, because why would you make the investment in AJ Brown after making the investment in Devante Smith and not allow your quarterback to be in a more modern offense when your lead running back as good as he might be. And I think we're undervaluing Miles Sanders a little bit, but he's clearly had a hard time staying healthy as well. And so the moves that they've made this offseason suggest that they're going to throw the ball more.

And so I think you have to buy into that. I think A.J. Brown has shown the ability to, while yes, Ryan Tandle's been efficient, it's also been an offense that's been a little hamstrung by past attempts as well. And so if they throw the ball a little bit more while there's more competition around him i think he will succeed with the higher target volume if that does come to fruition okay and then round four is as follows

josh allen first quarterback off the board jk dobbins brandons, not to Heath, Cortland Sutton, DJ Moore, Travis Etienne, Jalen Waddle, Josh Jacobs, Brees Hall, DK Metcalf, Darren Waller, and Deontay Johnson. One quarterback, Josh Allen, he went 37th overall. One tight end, DK Metcalf. George Kittle would go five picks later. Metc he went 37th overall. One tight end, DK Metcalf. George Kittle would go five picks later. Metcalf went 47th overall. And the rest of the running backs and receivers,

Dobbins, Cooks, Sutton, DJ Moore, ETN, Waddle, Jacobs, Brees Hall, Metcalf, Deontay Johnson. See, this group of running backs is interesting, I think maybe more so than the round three guys because as Heath noted, this is where the dead zone typically falls. But you see so much upside with a few of these guys, you know, I mean, Brees Hall, as we've talked about a lot, how successful rookie running backs, how successful at least one rookie running back has been. And he profiles as the one that should be the most

successful. Obviously, as you mentioned, Adam, JK Dobbins, if we find that he's healthy, there's no way he's staying in the fourth. He's falling to the fourth round. He's going to be at least the top three round pick. So, you know, this could be a little bit find that he's healthy, there's no way he's staying in the fourth. He's falling to the fourth round. He's going to be at least the top three round pick. So, you know, this could be a little bit of a steal. If James Robinson's not ready for the start of the season, Travis Etienne might even be a steal in this round, but this is a good spot to take a chance on him. And then Jacobs is the one that you could certainly debate. I know he has probably a little bit stronger feelings than most on Jacobs, but if he's

right and still the lead guy here, this is a good spot for him. I don't know if it's a lead guy here this is a good spot for him i don't know if it's a steal but it's a good spot for him you know given that he should still be the top guy on an offense that should improve with a better head coach or at least a better play caller and and the better talent around him so it doesn't feel like this is a a bad round of running backs given what typically has happened in the past and it might be to what you said you know especially in analyst drafts heath that um they these guys get pushed down a little bit more maybe than they should. Right. And I think like Gobbins, Etienne, and Brees Hall

are all guys that I wouldn't be surprised in August if they're the green arrow guys that just like the entire draft season, they're moving up. I heard in some of the early high stakes stakes drafts etn's going as an early third round pick so um like these are the types of guys that eventually if they start getting hyped up in training camp they could go to the moon all right and again this this this three three and four round round three and round four running backs it feels more like a ppr draft than a half pPR draft.

What do you think about Dobbins though? You said Dobbins won't be in round four if he's healthy. Do you think he'll be in round four in full PPR? Because in half PPR, he definitely won't be in round four. No. No, I think he's in round three. I know just me personally, I'll move him up probably four or five spots in my rankings. Right now he's in the early 20s.

He'll get into the teens if he's 100% healthy. Yeah, if he's 100% healthy, I think he's a round two pick in non-PPR and a round three pick in full PPR. Wow, okay. Let's talk about our teams then. Jamie had the second overall pick. He waited until round...

Well, do Dave's team first because I think it's an interesting build. All right, it's going to go in order, but that's fine. Jamie, for the record, waited until round 12 to take his quarterback, and it was Matthew Stafford. Dave had the third pick, and he went running back heavy. Tom Brady is his quarterback. Derek Henry and Saquon Barkley are his running backs. They were his first and second picks. Javante Williams is his flex. He was his third pick. So he went Henry, Barkley, and Javante Williams

with his first three picks, picking out of the three spot. His quarterback is Brady, as mentioned. This was before the Gronk News and the... The day of. Yeah, right. It was maybe a half hour before the Gronk News. Right.

But still, Brady in round eight with some of the other quarterbacks where they went that's a fantastic value that nobody else will probably get uh his wide receivers are DK Metcalf Alan Robinson and Jahan Dotson and tight end is Dalton Schultz and Tim Patrick and Chase Claypool and on his bench he has Tim Patrick Chase Claypool Od odell beckham rob gronkowski unfortunately uh devin singletary and tyrian davis price ty davis price as they call him 49ers backup running back so he does have singletary as a nice option there as well the fourth running back but the wide receivers he needs to start three of them are dk metcalf alan robinson johan dotson beckham and claypool and

patrick and tim patrick so this is obviously you know his weaknesses is receiving court and i i didn't love metcalf in round four given the quarterback situation right now over some of the other guys he took dionte johnson mike williams terry mcclurin i like all those guys but i even like alan robinson who he took ahead of DK Metcalf, not personally. But if Metcalf is right with, you know, let's just say it's Baker, and we, you know, buy back into whatever degree on Metcalf, closer to where his, you know, this might be where his value is. But, you know, I think Dave is still a little encouraged by Metcalf,

which is fine. But if he had taken Evans or Keenan Allen or A.J. Brown or one of those receivers instead of Barkley, how much better does his team look? Given the fact that he ended up with Singletary still as their running back, which is fine as a number three guy. Great as a number four guy. Yeah, I'd prefer it with the wide receiver instead of Barkley.

Right. It's hard. Look, I'll just give a quick story here. I've told this before, but we did a half PPR. Maybe it's full PPR. I can't remember. Fantasy Football Today League last year. Full PPR?

Full PPR. Yeah, so a little bit different. Three of my first four picks were running backs, and they were Derek Henry, Saquon Barkley, and then in round four, I took Gus Edwards, obviously after the Dobbins injury. My third round pick was Robert Woods. So it didn't work out.

I don't want to be one of those guys who says, oh, it didn't work out last year, I'm not doing it this year, but there's a lot of risk in taking three running backs with your first three picks, or even with your first four, three and four. That's what I did. Okay, so then we'll transition right into Heath's team. And that's unusual, I think, for Heath.

I will say, though, again, if Metcalf is closer to what he typically is, he recovered pretty well. Okay, so Heath had the fifth pick. I think it goes back to what Jamie said, that when we do half PPR drafts, the rankings that are in the draft room are all PPR rankings. And Jamie said, this look,

the running backs that are available in round four looks more like a PPR draft than a half PPR draft. And I think maybe that's why. All right. Let's take a look at your team. You, you went with Eckler and Fournette with your first two picks. Then you had no expectations.

You were getting Eckler at that spot, right? Oh no, I did not. I thought I was going to be drafting Cooper cup. Honestly. Right. Eckler Fournette. picks then you had no expectations you're getting eckler at that spot right oh no i did not i thought i was gonna be drafting cooper cup honestly right eckler four net uh keenan allen josh jacobs were your first four picks your team is justin herbert at quarterback eckler four net keenan allen adam theelin robert woods josh jacobs at flex and cole commit at tight end and greater late.

And you on your bench, you have Michael Carter and Damian Pierce at running back. We'll Fuller Julio Jones. Hey, if you can't choose between two injured guys, take them both. We call hard man and Drake London. Drake London is your top bench wide receiver for now. All right.

What do you think of your team? I love my bench. And I got a nice Chargers stack, which the Chargers should be good. I got Herbert Eckler and Keenan Allen. I love my running backs. It's just like I've got three wide receivers, I think, that are all over 30,

or will be. 30 or older. Yeah. Keenan Allen, 29? I think Keenan Allen is age 29 season. I'll check for you. Can a couple of those

old wide receivers hold up? Or can Drake London or Julio, boom. Happy birthday, Keenan Allen. You're 30. Today? No. But I missed it you know i'm unlike you guys i say happy birthday when i find out i miss someone's birthday so you know i happy birthday all right you like so would you do anything differently um well i hadn't thought about that but jacob's would be the one I think that I would do differently.

Yeah. I remember when it was that time to pick, I almost thought, or I did think, I almost want to not draft Jacobs and just see how far he goes if I don't draft him. I remember having that feeling a couple times last year as well. I would have probably taken him in round five. Jamie, let's finally get to your team here. You had the second pick, Matthew Stafford in round five. Jamie, let's finally get to your team here. You had the second pick, Matthew Stafford, in round 12.

Before he goes, I think just in terms of his roster, like if he had taken, which receiver would you have taken out of Metcalf, Deontay? I don't think you would have taken Mike Williams after Keenan Allen, but McLaurin, Robinson, probably McLaurin, right? Yeah, I should have taken Mike Williams. That would have been even more awesome. I guess he has a teeth fan.

Are we done yet? But then I would have not got Jacobs and had a different – Yeah, I don't – I still think – and Jacobs we'll talk about a lot later in the week because he's my guy I'm most scared of being wrong about. But I think if Josh Jacobs is Josh Jacobs, he's going to be worth an early third round pick like Dave Montgomery. All right,

let's go to Jamie's team. Pick a second. Nope. I'm going to mute your mic. Matthew Stafford, Jonathan Taylor, Kareem hunt. So this is someone who,

this is a team that went very heavy on wide receiver. He took Taylor and then he took Mike Evans, AJ Brown, Darren Waller, Terry McLaurin, and then Kareem Hunt. So the final starting lineup looks like Stafford, Taylor, and Kareem Hunt, Mike Evans, A.J. Brown, Terry McLaurin, Darren Waller at tight end, and Alan Lazard at flex. I think people are going to really like this team.

It's a good-looking squad. Now you try to kind of overcome your running back weakness with Kareem Hunt being your RB2, with James Cook, Alexander Madison, Rashad White, backup running back for Tampa Bay, rookie, Deontay Foreman, backup at Carolina, Kenneth Gainwell, and that's it, right? Madison, Cook, Foreman, Gainwell, Rashad White, and you have Jacoby Myers on your bench.

I can't really, I can't complain about this team. This is a good team. Well, the thing that I try to do, and I think if you go this route, whether it's zero RB or hero RB or just in any sort of scenario where you're sort of sacrificing that position a little bit, you want to try to do, you know, a couple of things, you know, there's probably lots of different routes to go, but my approach was trying to find a couple of guys who have

the ability to play right away. And obviously Kareem Hunt, we know, I think Gainwell is going to be used quite a bit more in tandem with Miles Sanders. And then James Cook, hopefully will be used a lot in the Bills offense. But in the event that they're not, the other approach was, okay, if these guys get starting spots, what type of offenses are they on? Madison we know. The Vikings offense has a chance to be very explosive,

but we've already seen Madison step in for Dobbin Cook and be great. Rashad White, the Bucs offense should be fantastic. And if Leonard Fournette does go down, Keith's team will be ruined, but my team will be fantastic. If he's the number two guy there. James Cook, if his role does expand and something happens to Devin Singletary. Gainwell, same thing.

So that was kind of, it was not just, okay, this is the next best guy in my rankings. It was also skipping over a couple of guys to do that and you know circling back to your Khalil Herbert suggestion you know um I need to I need to move Herbert up a little bit my rankings but like somebody like Herbert on a what could be a bad offense for Chicago or Foreman on a bad offense for Carolina you know which of the two has more lottery ticket appeal. And I don't know the answer to that because we've seen the backup to Christian McCaffrey two years ago and Mike Davis be very good for fantasy,

even though, you know, he wasn't great as a, as a player, but he was certainly productive. And Herbert had some good stretches last season when he stepped in from Montgomery. So there's, you know, certainly an argument to be made there, which is the better of the two. But again, the, the, the earlier picks that I made at that spot was good offense and hopefully major role if the starter goes down.

Yeah, Khalil Herbert versus Deontay Foreman is interesting. Deontay Foreman, just looking now, has 18 career catches. And Herbert had 14 last year. So maybe that gives an edge to Herbert. He might have a role in the passing game. He should, based on what they're saying in Chicago. Okay, and I'm not going to spend too much time on my team. I had the ninth pick.

I took Joe Mixon. I like my team a lot, actually. You clearly didn't spend much time when you were choosing the players. I'll just tell you why I like my team. Because look at the offenses. I have Russell Wilson, Joe Mixon, A.J. Dillon, Stefan Diggs, Cortland Sutton, Juju Smith-Schuster, Kyle Pitts as well.

But the core of my team, I think Wilson, obviously Sutton, Diggs, Mixon, Juju Smith-Schuster, A.J. Dillon. Could be talking about some of the best offenses in football. For anybody that didn't watch the live stream and may not have heard you say this, you're very aggressive with the Broncos receivers, and I know now more so Sutton than Judy, understandably

so. You took Sutton over this group of receivers. DJ Moore, Jalen Waddell, D.K. Metcalf, Deontay Johnson, Mike Williams, Terry McCorn, Allen Robinson. Why? I think he's going to be

the number one guy for Russell Wilson. He's got a thousand yard season under his belt with Drew Locke. I think he's going to score eight or more touchdowns. And I have concerns about every one of those players,

including Sutton, because Judy could be the guy. But, you know, I just, I'm just buying into Russell Wilson. We have not seen the best of Cortland Sutton, and I'm trying to get ahead of the game, I guess. I think his ADP is really low. He's like a six-round pick or something,

but that won't be the case for long. So if... Go ahead, buddy. No, you go ahead. No, I was going to say, knowing that his ADP is where it is, and at this point, you've done enough drafts with all of us. A, did you think that Sutton was going to go? Because, you know, if you know your league,

clearly you can wait it out. I did not think he was going to be there with my next pick, which was like a round and a half later in round five. Okay, so you thought you had to be aggressive. Yes. Because I guess, you know, just again, you know, changing some of our picks, had you gone any of these running backs,

whether you like them or not, but I know you said, AJ Dillon, you have a little bit of concern over, but Chavez CTN, Josh Jacobs, Brees Hall, I guess Dillon was the next one to go. You could have had any one of those guys and then maybe gotten Sutton in round five. If I could get him round five, sure.

I didn't think I would be able to get him in round five. If you're telling me that he is going to lead the team in targets, then I think Corlin Sutton could perform like a round two pick. I really do. I think he's just going to have a huge year. He's going to be, if I had to guess right now, if I were doing a bunch of drafts in the next few weeks, he'd be my most

rostered player. What if there's a video that comes out tomorrow of Russell Wilson throwing a deep pass to Jerry Judy? That's fine. I think Judy could end up being What if there's a video that comes out tomorrow of Russell Wilson throwing a deep pass to Jerry Judy? That's fine. I mean, I think Judy could end up being a real steal because people are low on him because the reports haven't been great or whatever. And I think he could just blow away that ADP and he could be a great pick. But I think they both could be.

I mean, that's the point. So you think they're almost as good as DK and Luckett? No, I can't say that. I can't say that. Pedigree would say they're better as good as DK and Luckett? No, I can't say that. I can't say that. Pedigree would say they're better. What? Their pedigree would say they're better. Well, not DK, right? Well, I mean, DK was a third-round pick.

I'm talking about their NFL draft capital. Yeah, so, right. So, I don't remember what I was going to say. I think DK Metcalf had first-round upside with Russell Wilson. I don't remember what I was going to say. I think DK Metcalf had first round upside with Russell Wilson. I don't think Sutton has that, so I think I said he has second round upside, but I predict that Sutton will be a fourth round pick

when it's all said and done. Oh, I don't disagree. If the report's on Judy and right now he's banged up, continue, because nobody's going to be hammering Tim Patrick over Cortland Sutton, and I don't think he should. But the thing that's fascinating about Sutton is that second year, you know, going into year three, everybody was excited about Cortland Sutton, you know, coming off that year that he had.

And then two games in tears his ACL. And then last year, you know, was so frustrating. But how much of that was still year removed, bad quarterback play. And now he has this dream quarterback for what his skill set is and so I don't disagree with your logic Adam I just think this comes down to players like this where how well do you know your league and could you have gotten him around later and so you don't think you

could have so you take the player which is totally the right move to make but if you could have gotten him around later then you don't have the A.J. Dillon concern. You probably would have taken Brees Hall, I guess. Yeah, I think so. I think that's probably fair. It's basically Brees Hall and Amari Cooper

versus Cortland Sutton and A.J. Dillon. Yeah, that's easy for me. That's definitely Sutton and Dillon. No, and I would do it as well, but unless it's Cortland Sutton and Brees Hall. Right. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, look, the wide receiver that you pick in round four

is a really important pick. I say this all the time. So this is when the pendulum starts to swing and all the running backs, people go so running back heavy, round four wide receivers are great. Not all of them, but these are like round two running backs, basically.

I mean, you've got potential for league winners. So you've got to nail this pick. Round four, round five. And there's a lot of pressure there. I pass up a lot of very, very talented receivers. Like DJ Moore, DK Metcalf might be better receivers

than Cortland Sutton. In fact, if I had to guess, I'd say they probably are, but I'm just going with situation there. Well, if one of those guys gets Baker, are they ahead of Sutton for you?

Yes. I think I would put Metcalf ahead of... I would be very excited about Metcalf if he had Baker Mayfield. I screwed up. What I should have said was

it could have been Breecerees Hall and Jerry Judy. I don't really know what to expect from Brees Hall. I haven't had the guts to draft him yet. Which running back would you have considered if you didn't take Sutton? Etienne, Jacobs, Hall. Yeah, I said Hall. It's Hall or Etienne. I'll take Hall. All right, so let's say you said Hall. It's Hall or Etienne. I'll take Hall.

All right, so let's say you go Hall, and let's just say Sutton goes. So your choices are... Is Judy still available? Yeah, Judy's still available. So your choices are, and you took Juju over Judy, but I know you wouldn't have taken Sutton and Judy. So your choices would have been Marquise Brown, potentially, Darnell Mooney, potentially, Cooper, Bateman, Gabriel Davis,

Michael Thomas, Juju, and Phelan if you want to extend it. You'd probably take Michael Thomas, right? That's the name that stood out when you were saying that, yeah. To be honest with you, we're going to have a show. We've got to have a show soon. We have all these different topics. We have got to have a rounds four through six wide receiver show.

I truly think that this is where you win your draft. Shagger. Hey, I don't think it's not going to be this week. I think I'm going to pencil it in for next week, but this, I think we should maybe do two episodes on it. Honestly, it's, it's huge. It's so it was a couple of weeks ago when you took Judy in round four over Sutton, right? I did that in PPR. The next day I took Sutton over Judy. What are the chances within the next three weeks you take Judy over Sutton in round four again? Look, it's possible. I'll follow the reports. I think they're both.

Look, I'm very, very much buying into the Broncos passing game. And I really like both of those guys. And I love Russell Wilson. I want to get a ton of Russell Wilson this year. I think they're going to have a great offense. So I view it very similarly to Lockett and Metcalf, where you could guess wrong and pick the wrong guy, but still end up with a very good wide receiver.

Or you just take Tim Patrick. I don't know that I see consistency from him. It's probably some big games, but sure. I mean, number three wide receiver of their NFL, KJ Hamler, Patrick may be off the field the most.

He may be on the field the most. I don't know, but right. Yeah. If they want their best speed threat on the field hamler's gonna see a lot of playing time and he's gonna be one of the more frustrating fantasy options because he's gonna have a two touchdown week and 180 yards and he's gonna have a two catch for 40 yard week uh three weeks in a row and then he'll blow up for another week again i mean he's gonna

be that type of player but you know patrick may end up as we we've seen, you know, especially now Judy's banged up once again. That's the scary thing. Yeah, because they're acting like Patrick and Sutton are going to play the most. And then they want to get Hamler on the field. That's like, well, what about Jerry Judy? Well, that's where Judy's going to play the slot. Like, Sutton does not play the slot. I think he was outside 90% last year.

I don't want... Where's Hamler going to play? I'm not worried about K.J. Hamler. Are you kidding? K.J. Hamler's not going to play over Jerry Judy. If that's the case, that's... It's Hamler and Patrick are fighting for the second

outside spot. But we should give Patrick some credit. Two straight years with about 740 yards, five to six touchdowns. He's missed three games over that stretch. That's good. What? Injuries. What do you mean? No, no, I just mean, like, you

can't say any other Paul Richardson type of player on Seattle had the career of Tim Patrick. Patrick's a solid player. Oh, for sure. And they rewarded him as such. You know, and, you know, I spoke to Corlin Sutton. The thing he was, you know, just in coming out of his mouth,

was more excited about Tim Patrick getting paid than he was getting paid. You know, he was like, it's so good to see a guy like that who's had to struggle and get rewarded. But, you know, does Tim Patrick become what he is, which is a nice player, like you said, but I don't know if he's a superstar. No, not. Does he become what he is if Sutton doesn't blow out his ACL and Jerry Judy misses six games?

I guess I just meant more like he's more of a thorn in the side of Cortland and Sutton and Jerry Judy than any other Seahawk player was to Metcalf and Lockett. Right. And I think even that, it could be that we get to the midseason and even that was disrespectful to Tim Patrick. Fair.

Could be. In that case, I will have a lot of useless Cortland Sutton shares. This is actually, you know, what your friendship strategy has morphed into. This is the perfect guy to take. Because whether you take one or the other two,

early, round four, round five, round six, you know, on the top two guys, Suttonton and Judy you should absolutely be taking a chance on Tim Patrick unless the hype gets too out of control of Judy's not right in training camp Tim Patrick should be Adam's most drafted player yeah I love it I think I'm just gonna I'm just gonna draft AFC West I think if I just draft AFC West we'll be fine that's another show to have is the best third receivers to take, or at least a segment to have, you know, a significant portion of the show. Well, later this week, we're talking about our favorite wide receivers after round 10.

He is going to probably be one of them. He's going 147th overall. We might have to do like round nine. I don't know. But yeah, best late round wide receivers. Well, definitely. That's a show coming up later this week. All right.

Thanks for a good discussion here. I intended to read some good emails. I didn't, so I will do that hopefully tomorrow when Dave, who's not going to be celebrating his birthday, when Dave will join us on tomorrow's show. Thanks to Jamie and Heath. I heard Dave's dancing Chris Godwin news when he gets back. All right, Cactus Man and Heath,

we will talk to you'all later on Fantasy Football today