Fantasy Football Today - 05/03 Fantasy Football Podcast: Talking Football With Kostos

Episode Date: May 3, 2018

Nick Kostos is back and he's brought with him his Fantasy Football hot takes. Find out which young QB Nick looooooves in 2018 (2:30) and why he likes Jared Goff better than Drew Brees (7:10) ... Some ...thoughts on a recent mock draft including the merits of drafting two Top 10 QBs (20:00) and Derrick Henry's value (27:05) ... A lot of dynasty and rookie talk (33:45) as Jamey discusses what he was willing to give up for Saquon Barkley. We also tell you why Dak Prescott could be sneaky this year (44:00) and assess the DAL WRs. Stay tuned for some Best Sports Movie talk (50:43) ... Your emails at fantasybaseball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's Adam, Dave, and Jamie. Welcome back, everybody, to the Fantasy Football Today podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Back by popular demand and self-request, Nick Kostos is here. Hi, I appreciate that you threw out the popular demand and self-request nick costos is here i appreciate that you threw out the popular demand it really was self-request like i i texted you and i was like i'd like to come on and you were like okay you can come on thursday let's do it so yes um anyone that wanted me to come on i appreciate it but this was entirely self-request did you ever find out who the uh the was the twitterostas' number one fan? This guy from Britain. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Tim Monk, the number one Nick Kostas fan. Shout out to him. I'm sure he'll be listening. Yeah. Since he's my number one fan. And how is he related to you? I had to text my mom and be like, did you make a Twitter? Is this you, Mom?
Starting point is 00:00:59 It's actually some dude from Britain. Shout out to Tim. All right. No, this is back by Popular Demand. You got rave reviews last time. So Nick hosts. He does our anchoring on CBS Sports HQ. Did a great job during the NFL draft.
Starting point is 00:01:12 We're going to talk about the NFL draft. We're going to get Nick's thoughts on football, life in general. We're going to talk about Marlon Mack, who had off-season surgery on his shoulder and his outlook for 2018. We did a mock draft that we're not allowed to talk about because it's for our magazine, but we'll talk a little bit about it, sort of. You can give some hints. I mean, we're just not going to break it down like we normally break down drafts. No, but we will have a draft next week that we'll be able to break down, right?
Starting point is 00:01:39 Yes, we will have a draft next week. Maybe Nick will be in it if he decides to reply to the email that I sent him, which he tends to ignore. Well, what I do is live my life on a day-to-day basis, and you want me to make a commitment a week in advance. I can't do it. The nice thing was, though, I did send the IMU, or it had to be. You didn't reply to the email. So I IMU. Yeah, because we were – why would I reply to the email if we're G Chases?
Starting point is 00:02:00 It's like when people send wedding invitations and I don't RSVP back. If I text you I'm going, why do I need to send the RSVP? I didn't remember where the conversation was. It was over the chat. That sounds like a man who hasn't been married. You'll see. You need the RSVP. Correct.
Starting point is 00:02:13 He did say, what about our Tuesday lunch? I mean, we go to lunch on Tuesdays. Like, we're going to cancel lunch for the freaking mock draft. I mean, we can do the mock draft any day. All right, Nick. Give us some anywhere from lukewarm to hot takes on football right now. Oh, well, I'll start with this one. You want, oh, let's get the kerosene in the match and let's burn this baby down already. Mitch Trubisky will be this year's Jared Goff. And the Chicago Bears, I don't know if they're
Starting point is 00:02:40 going to go 11 and five and win the division like the Rams did last year. I love the Bears this year. Love their overwin total at 6.5. And I think Trubisky's going to have a big year. And Anthony Miller, the wide receiver that they traded up to take in the second round, traded next year's second rounder to go up and get him. Love the move from Ryan Pace. I think Anthony Miller, not DJ Moore, not Calvin Ridley, not Cortland Sutton. Anthony Miller will be the wide receiver
Starting point is 00:03:07 one from this year's rookie class and i am in on mitch trubisky and i am in on the chicago bears offense for fantasy and when you say that you're in it's not just hyperbole you literally traded for him in your dynasty in one of my you have put your money where your mouth yes i traded a third round pick in adolphus, Washington, the Bills defensive tackle, in what I would consider to be highway robbery. A third-round pick in a defensive tackle for Mitchell Trubisky? Yes, for Mitchell Trubisky. The guy has got a couple quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Was he your number one fan, just trying to do you a solid? Well, he's got Cam and a couple other quarterbacks, so I don't think he's as high on Trubisky as I am. I think I'm right and he's wrong. I think Trubisky's going to throw 25 touchdowns, probably rush for five. I think he's going to have a monster season this year with Matt Nagy there calling plays. They put a lot of pieces around him. You mentioned one on Anthony Miller. They went out.
Starting point is 00:03:55 They were the aggressive one and signed Allen Robinson, and they signed Trey Burton. Taylor Gabriel? Taylor Gabriel, I think he's more of a complimentary option, but certainly part of the puzzle. And so, you know, with not only the coaching change to get a more aggressive play caller in there and somebody who's got an offensive background, you have aggressive. You mean that he's going to call the forward pass? Unlike John Fox, it was stuck in the Mesozoic era. You have, you have now talent on the field and it's a, it's a great comparison.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Jared Goff is a great situation because it was the same thing. They went out and they got a new head coach and you saw the dramatic turnaround so he can have that same type i will add i will add like i think mitch trubisky is going to end up like goff did like a qb1 this season i don't know if i can draft him to be my qb1 but you don't have to that's the best part about it you know you're talking about dynasty trades where you're getting him which is a clearly different scenario but i loved him in this year. I understand that, but he's your last round pick. It's Trubisky kicker, defense or defense kicker, whatever order you want to do it. It's going to be defense kicker Trubisky.
Starting point is 00:04:53 It could, but you just want to make sure you get him. Yeah, because I think it's going to be a big year for him. Totally understand it. He's a better version of Alex Smith. I think his athleticism is really underrated. If he stinks, you cut him. That's the easy part about it. I don't think he's going to version of Alex Smith. I think his athleticism is really underrated. If he stinks, you cut him. That's the easy part about it. I don't think he's going to stink.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I agree. I know what you're saying. There's always a chance. I don't think he's going to stink. I'm going to lay this one on you, though. Where does he rank compared to the Patrick Mahomes and Goff and Matt Ryan and a lot of other quarterbacks that are going to be in that same – they're in that same boat of being late-round flyers.
Starting point is 00:05:27 We think they've got a chance to have a big year. Where does he fall in line with those guys? I don't think you can take Trubisky over Goff. If I had the option, I would take Goff. And I would also take Mahomes over him because Mahomes is at least like that Week 17 game. Trubisky was playing with the deck stacked against him. It's not his fault last year but like what Mahomes did in week 17 and the weapons that they have and with Andy Reid and it's Matt Nagy's a Reid disciple I like both guys I just think Mahomes is the better
Starting point is 00:05:54 prospect you know I think Mahomes is a better quarterback than Trubisky but the thing you know the two of the guys you just laid out in terms of Goff and Trubisky you can just wait until maybe your last two picks you don't think Goff's going to go earlier than that? I mean, I've done enough drafts now to see that. I think Azar's right. Wait, so, JV, I don't remember if you were on this show. It was the last show we did for the Ion Fantasy Football Radio show on CBS Sports Radio. So it was right before week 17, and we did a draft on the air.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And we did first round. Just just call in give us a pick we'll go pick my pick somebody called in and took jared goff like seventh overall and i was like what not only you take a quarterback you're not taking aaron rogers you're not taking cam newton you're not taking tom bray you're taking jared goff so in our leagues like no but i think the public will fall in love with jared no he he's going to get drafted as a second quarterback. But he's not going to get drafted as a number one quarterback. I don't know about that. Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Is that what you said? I'm sorry. No, he won't. He won't be top 12. No, it's such a loaded position. It's such a loaded position. I mean, you know, you start thinking about the names. He's not going ahead of Rodgers, Brady, or Wilson.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Yep. He's not going ahead of Wentz or Watson. He's not going ahead of Cam. He's still not going ahead of Bree He's not going ahead of Wentz or Watson. He's not going ahead of Cam. He's still not going ahead of Breeze. No. He's, you know— Roethlisberger. Although, I will say this.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Roethlisberger. If you gave me the choice of Jared Goff or Drew Breeze in fantasy next year, I would take Jared Goff. No. Wow. Really? Based on just player for player or based on value? Because value— Based on situation, the whole deal.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I think Goff will outperform Brees this year in fantasy. I mean, obviously he could. I don't necessarily think that's going to happen, but there's a chance for it. Goff will account for more touchdowns than Brees will this year. Brees is the better quarterback, but I think that they're going to lead more in the run game. You're thinking the way you should, which is it's a stats game. Don't forget about Todd Gurley. He's still there.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Yeah, but he catches a ton of passes also. Sure. Some of the running catches a ton of passes also. Sure. Some of the running backs in New Orleans. True. I think the point with Goff, and maybe saying you're going to get him with your last two picks, but you can certainly get Goff double-digit rounds and Trubisky even later than that. It's fascinating, and you guys are far more invested in this world than I am. I was thinking about this earlier.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Is this the year where I can't think of a better year to wait on taking a quarterback? Yeah, it's the deepest I've ever seen it. I've been playing fantasy football for 20 years. But you can't take – I feel like it's almost malpractice this year to take a guy in the first five or six rounds. We said the same thing last year. I just want to point that out. And it does seem deeper this year than ever.
Starting point is 00:08:22 We have also said that. But, I mean, going into – doing our quarterback preview last year was like, yeah, there are 15 to 18 quarterbacks that I'm happy with as my number one. That included Eli Manning and Carson Palmer. At the end of the day, like Aaron Rodgers, if he stays healthy, is still going to be a lot better than every other quarterback except for maybe a few. Same with Russell Wilson, probably with Tom Brady. I mean, I don't like taking the middle group.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I like either taking Aaron Rodgers in the third round or something like that or wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, unless you get amazing value. I mean, look, there's always going to be the anomaly year. Like last year, Wentz was somebody who had the chance to be like what you would probably say Goff was. Yeah. And Trubisky could be this year. Or the Alex Smith season, that just a guy comes out of nowhere that you don't see coming be like what you would probably say golf was yeah and trubisky could be this year uh or the alex smith season that just a guy comes out of nowhere that you don't see coming and has that
Starting point is 00:09:09 big season there are a lot of good young quarterbacks golf is going to be outside the top 12 i think i don't like the situation for dak prescott but the way that he's going to fall in drafts if gallup becomes something if they they can find tight end, maybe Rico Gathers is that guy. They should run the Patriots on it. However it comes to fruition, Dak could still have good, very good fantasy value with a late round pick. If Eli gets his bleep together with all those guys around him.
Starting point is 00:09:37 He's going to stink. But still, there's so much talent there. And it just goes on and on and on. You know who I kind of like? You guys are going to laugh at this. Who I think is going to have a bounce back fantasy year. You just said Jared Goff is going to be who i kind of like you guys are gonna laugh at this who i think is gonna have a bounce back fantasy year you just said jericho's gonna be better than drew brees if we didn't laugh at that we're gonna laugh that was kind of laugh worthy now that i'm thinking about it i'll stick with it if the name joe flacco comes out it's not joe flacco but it's someone who i've who i used to really love tyra tyra taylor ryan tannahill oh
Starting point is 00:10:02 boy they could but that's the thing. He could. I'm not drafting him. Of course not. No, no, no. And I wouldn't draft him either. But I'm saying, but like, would you be shocked if Ryan Tannehill was a pretty good fantasy quarterback next year? Yes. Yep.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I'll give you a conversation that we had off air yesterday or two days ago with Heath, who's doing all of our team-by-team previews for our magazine. His beard's out of control, man. I actually kind of like it but i mean that thing i mean he could hide like an animal in that beard it kind of looks like an armadillo crawled on his face i haven't seen scott white in about a week and i think he's in the beard um no he's he's here at night now lurking around like walking past us like a dementor from harry potter um i heath brought up this point can you think of a team that has a star running back i don't know how you phrase it but star running back top 10 quarterback Harry Potter. Heath brought up this point. Can you think of a team that has a
Starting point is 00:10:45 star running back? I don't know how you phrase it, but star running back. Top 10 quarterback. Top 10 running back. Everything but the quarterback. Oh, you're right. Top 10 running back. Top 10 receiver. Top 10 tight end. And not had a top 10 quarterback. And we were like, Troy Aikman. That's how far back you have to think of. And Aikman at that point was probably a star
Starting point is 00:11:01 fantasy quarterback. But everything around Eli is just set up for him to be great. Yes, except for the offensive line, which is atrocious. No, no, no. I think it's better. You know what? Hold on. This is the Giants fan.
Starting point is 00:11:14 No, this is the Giants fan. Was I the Giants fan last year when I said they were going to stink? And they stunk. Yes. If I were a fan, I'd say they were going to be great. I'm being rational. They stink. Like, Will Hernandez has got to be Alan Fanica for this offensive line to be good.
Starting point is 00:11:27 He's got to be touched by the hand of God, like Dave Gettleman said Saquon Barkley was. I'm willing to bet that Will Hernandez is not going to the Hall of Fame. And Nate Solder is not Anthony Munoz, so let's not talk about him like he is. He's an above-average left tackle that got paid like Walter Jones because he hit the market at the right time. He's not that good. He's so better than what they had. Last year was atrocious. This year is not atrocious.
Starting point is 00:11:48 It has the chance to be. It's not the worst offensive line in the league. In any event, Tano could be good. Eli could be good. Dalton could be good. Two years ago, he was great. How about Marcus Mariota? Mariota could be great.
Starting point is 00:11:58 We're saying every name. We should start talking about the quarterbacks that we aren't going to draft. I'll give you a quarterback that in 2016 had a top 10 wide receiver and a top 10 tight end and finished like 13th, and that was Russell Wilson. He had Doug Baldwin. He had Jimmy Graham. He was there, yeah. So it can happen. He didn't have the running back.
Starting point is 00:12:20 He didn't have that element of it. But obviously Eli's got some of the best weapons in fantasy for sure. All right, let's move on. Let's talk about just two news items here. Marlon Mack with the offseason surgery. He played his entire rookie season with a torn labrum. He's expected back for training camp. The Colts drafted two running backs.
Starting point is 00:12:39 They drafted Naheem Hines in round four. He calls himself the fastest running back in the draft class. And the Colts also drafted Ole Miss running back Jordan Wilkins in round five. He's a bigger, probably more suitable for more workload running back than Hines. And they drafted a guard with each of their first two picks. So this is a great situation that any running back would be walking into. Let's talk about Marlon. We talked about this a little bit, but we didn't know about the surgery on Monday when we spoke about Mack, right?
Starting point is 00:13:06 Nope. All right. No. So what's your reaction to that? As long as he's fine for camp, I think the situation is as good as it gets for any of these rookies. And if Andrew Luck is back at 100%, he's thrown the ball to his running backs quite a bit. So Marlon Mack's in a great situation, but I still think C.J. Anderson is looming for the Colts. I don't want to think about C.J. Anderson there until it happens.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Because right now, and honestly, I'd like to see it happen. Because I don't know if I can buy into Marlon Mack as being the main guy there. I think they're going to use them all. You just saw what Philadelphia did last year. And Frank Reich said as much. We asked him about it at the coach's breakfast a month ago, and that's what he said. You're going to see all these guys working. How was that breakfast?
Starting point is 00:13:49 The food itself. You know, it was at the Ritz-Carlton, so it was pretty dang good. How did Doug Peterson feel about having the mouth breathers and the media all around him while he was eating? I am one of those mouth breathers. I didn't talk to Doug. But I can pretty much tell you that most coaches dread the coach's breakfast. I bet.
Starting point is 00:14:06 But I'm with you, dude. On the Ritz-Carlton food? Yeah. Ritz-Carlton food's great. And Marlon Mack's the best of these guys, but how can you feel confident in any of them? It's just getting them at the right price on draft day. Yeah. And I'm worried that there's going to be some nincompoop in every league that's going to
Starting point is 00:14:19 take him in round five, thinking, good offensive line, Andrew Luck's back, he's going to catch a lot of passes well heinz is there to catch the passes and i think wilkins is there to be the grinder so matt kind of fits in between and maybe when training camp starts he'll be the first one up with the ones but he showed some good explosive moments last year it was too few and far between and i just have a feeling it's gonna be judge last year he i'm just saying he had some good moments i'm not saying that if the line was better he would have had an amazing season because i don't think he would have i just i think he's gonna end up
Starting point is 00:14:54 being inconsistent i still don't think that line's very good even with quentin nelson i think the interior of that line might be awesome two years from now's going to be the best interior one in the league. Nelson is amazing, by the way. If you go watch his games, he is amazing to watch. And the other news item, Carson Wentz is going to make more of an effort to protect himself when he is scrambling and such. Yeah, I mean, we'll put it this way. Where is he built? He had 299 rushing yards in 13 games. So I cut that in half. Let's say he had 150 rushing yards instead of 299 rushing yards in 13 games, so I cut that in half.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Let's say he had 150 rushing yards instead of 299, and I took what his point total would have been in 13 games, gave him 16 games, and he still would have been basically tied with Russell Wilson as the number one quarterback in fantasy. And he didn't have any rushing touchdowns either, which is a little bit weird. You figure he'd probably score one or two. He didn't have a touchdown when he tore his ACL or didn't fumble on that. Was that ball fumbled out of the end zone? It was not a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I thought it was against Seattle. No, it was against the Rams. No, when he tore his ACL, it was in L.A. against the Rams. Right, but he was diving for a touchdown against Seattle. It might have been a two-point conversion. Oh, maybe. He did not have any rushing touchdowns last year. He did not.
Starting point is 00:16:02 No. I can assure you of this. So, yeah, we're not going to. I think he actually got hurt on the touchdown pass. He got hit, I think, after he threw it. No, he stayed in for the two-point conversion. Yeah, but I think he got hurt on the throw. No, he got hurt on the run.
Starting point is 00:16:17 He tore his ACL on the run, right? Before the contact. Before the contact. And then he stayed in and threw the two-point conversion. And then he had the torn ACL. And somehow they won the Super Bowl. It really pisses me off as a Giants fan. Who were you rooting for, Nick?
Starting point is 00:16:31 I was rooting for the Eagles. Me too. Me too. Yeah. Which really, like, is awful. Right. It's Super Bowl. It was Super Bowl hell for them.
Starting point is 00:16:38 It was Super Bowl hell for the second time. Super Bowl hell for Giants. I mean, the Patriots won. Who cares? Then we're the only ones to beat them. Then why didn't you root for the Patriots? I couldn't bring myself to it because the game – Because of hell.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I'm obsessed with Doug Peterson. Yeah, he's pretty cool. No, he's the best. I would want him as my coach. I'll take Belichick, but you can have Peterson. I'll take Belichick and Goff. You can have Peterson and Trubisky. Or I'll take Belichick and Breeze.
Starting point is 00:17:01 You can have Peterson and Goff. Or Mahomes. And now you're stuck with Schirmer and Eli. Yeah, right. Giants will be back at the top of the draft in two years. With a new GM. So I want to promote a few things. First of all, we got CBS Sports HQ.
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Starting point is 00:18:20 He scrambled, scored the touchdown, got hurt. It was called back by penalty. They had two more runs after that. Incomplete pass, fourth down. He throws the touchdown to Alshon Jeffery. And then they went for two, right? They did not go for two. Okay, great.
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Starting point is 00:20:04 Use the promo code huddle – promo code huddle, excuse me. A dollar on your first month. All right, I'm done promoing. So we did that mock draft that we're sort of allowed to talk about, and I want to talk about a few topics from that draft. So yeah, drafting two top 10 quarterbacks in a year where it clearly makes sense to wait for quarterback? Is this a stupid idea? I think if one of those quarterbacks is maybe Andrew Luck or Ben Roethlisberger, I kind of like it. What do you guys think? Would you ever draft two top 10 quarterbacks?
Starting point is 00:20:36 I think the reason why I'd want to do it is to prevent someone from taking Andrew Luck or Ben Roethlisberger kind of late and ending up with one of the best quarterbacks in fantasy. What about adding Carson Wentz to that list, since we don't know what his status is for week one? Would he also be one of the three that you'd want to get a second quarterback for? I don't see him going as late as those guys, but yes, if he did, then yes. I don't think you guys are answering the question he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Dave's talking about pairing a second quarterback with Wentz, and Adam's talking about getting one of the lower tier top 12 quarterbacks. They're all still top 10 quarterbacks, though. No, no, but Adam's point is, is it worth taking two quarterbacks that are ranked relatively high? You're more talking about taking a guy to help you in case Wentz is ready. Right, I was thinking that he was just kind of dropping the injury-prone label on Roethlisberger and Luck when there's a guy coming back from a torn ACL that maybe also deserves the label.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Well, here's the answer to the question. No. No, so Dave, what I'm saying is Wentz would be my number two quarterback. If one of those guys was your one. Yeah, I could pair both of them. Okay, let's start over. I feel like we're in first grade math class right now. Yes, one plus one is two.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Adam's talking about pairing the first quarterback that he drafts. So let's just say he ends up taking Deshaun Watson. Oh, yeah, he's also coming off of an injury. Okay, bad example. Let's say he takes Drew Brees, and then he ends up taking Andrew Luck two or three rounds later because he wants to take the quarterback away from some males. Dave is talking about if you
Starting point is 00:22:06 take Carson Wentz, do you need to take a second quarterback no matter where he's ranked? Why don't we just address this as two separate issues, starting with Adam's issue. This is like a Saturday Night Live skit. Can we erase this from the podcast the last 90 seconds? Let's answer Acer's question.
Starting point is 00:22:24 You should not take two top 12 quarterbacks in a draft. No, you should not do that. Well, I'm sorry for a spoiler here, but I did and I kind of liked it. I did it too. Yeah, you did. But it was kind of by accident. Yeah, I didn't plan on it, but I just loved the value so much and I took like an NFL draft approach.
Starting point is 00:22:43 It was kind of by accident. Yeah. That inspires tons of confidence. We didn't plan it. Well, I don't know if I'm allowed to – We just got through 10 minutes ago talking about how deep the quarterback position is and how much talent there is and how much you can get great value from somebody who may or may not come out of nowhere, but it's worth taking the risk on that. And then it's a good idea to take a second quarterback early. No, but like last year i took i i took cam
Starting point is 00:23:05 in the league i went undefeated in and i got carried off like don chula it was great i uh i took cam i think in the eighth round and then i took luck in the third to last round before kicker a defense but that was like a stash play because no one was drafting him at the time i would tend to think that's the smarter way to draft your second quarterback like we were just talking about with trubisky if you have a feeling on him or any of the other quarterbacks that we've rattled off when we were going through this the other part of it is I mean look Adams uh the way that he drafted and you'll see it in our magazine the same thing with Dave if you don't like anything on the board at the time it's never a bad idea to take the best player available but if you're doing it which I know
Starting point is 00:23:44 Dave's done this in the past I don't think this is necessarily Adam. But if you're doing it, which I know Dave's done this in the past, and I don't think this is necessarily Adam's point, if you're doing it with the hope of trading that player, especially at the quarterback position, it is so difficult in a 12-team league, because the position is so deep, to find value that you could get maybe at another spot. Like if you took a chance on one of the rookie running backs, they're still there, or one of the rookie receivers. It's a lottery ticket pick. And you know when you take a lottery ticket pick?
Starting point is 00:24:05 At the end of the draft. Well, look, what round do you think? I don't think it was the seventh round. I think it was. It was. I can tell you what round it was because you screwed me as a result of it. Yeah, what round was it? It was round eight.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Round eight. You guys can't take two quarterbacks by the end of the draft. But that was the last pick of round eight, to be fair. It's atrocious. I don't think it is. I don't think it is because— Is it a two-quarterback league? No. Oh, I'm sorry. It's atrocious. I don't think it is. I don't think it is because— Is it a two-quarterback league? No.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Oh, I'm sorry. It was not round eight. It was round ten. Okay, last pick of round ten. Different. Yes. So the quarterbacks were going late. But, yeah, last pick of round ten.
Starting point is 00:24:35 And the thing is, with Breeze as my number one, there are some doubts about Drew Breeze. He was about tenth last year through 23 touchdown passes or 24 touchdown passes. Twenty-three. But if you had ended this draft with just Breeze as your quarterback, you would have been happy. I am, but now I'm happier with Breeze and Luck. Right. You took advantage of a silly bargain. Like you're never going to see Andrew Luck fall that far unless he's not in training camp again, in which case he won't get drafted. Take advantage of a silly bargain.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Maybe that's a better way to put it. That's what I did. Okay. All right. So I think we're on the same page there. The only thing that you're doing to yourself is you're eliminating the chance of a roster spot that you could play with. Because the minute you cut Andrew Luck if he's right or Cam Newton if he's right or Breeze or Carson Wentz in the case of the quarterbacks you guys took as your first options,
Starting point is 00:25:20 that guy's picked up immediately. I'm not cutting him. That's the point. Now you're stuck. You're handcuffed a little bit. Like I was with Luck last year right because the minute you drop that guy he's gonna get picked up unless there's news that he's not out or not gonna play what i did is i kept him until like it was he wasn't playing anymore and then i had yeah no i did the same
Starting point is 00:25:35 and it was a wasted roster spot and i still went undefeated right because i'm so good at fantasy it's just one of those things where you know you have to understand that okay if you have six bench spots now you have five and when you get to if you have six bench spots, now you have five. And when you get to, if you drafted well and your team is loaded, you're going to have to make a tough call on kicker defense or maybe an injury happens that you have to make an ad drop. I had one week last year where I didn't start a kicker because I wanted to keep luck. I still won, but I literally did not play a kicker.
Starting point is 00:26:02 The alternative is trading the second quarterback, but you're not going to get what you think you should get in trade for him, which I think was Jamie's point when you referenced something that happened to me years ago when we did a draft and I ended it. It was RG3's rookie season. It was our auction. And I got him and Matt Ryan for a total of like $4 in an auction. Also, what kills you is if the person knows that you're going to play the one quarterback,
Starting point is 00:26:21 then like – Right. This has been reflected in the trade chart for years. Sorry, Adam, but the value for quarterbacks just isn't nearly as high. I guess it's an audio medium. It's worth noting here because people can't see. Dave literally looked at Adam on Skype and waved him off. I wanted to make my point.
Starting point is 00:26:38 The trade chart is important. I get it, but I think that if I took Andrew Luck in the 10th round, I could probably trade him for somebody better than a 10th round pick. If he's good. If he's healthy. If he's good, yeah. But I don't think it will be like even a 6th round pick. Like you have to lower your expectations for what you can trade for.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Of course I would. I mean I get that's why I got him in the 10th round because people aren't valuing quarterbacks like that. The other quarterback question, I think we've already addressed that in previous shows. I want to talk about Derrick Henry. I know Jamie and I don't agree on Derrick Henry. And what is it? Do you just think Deion Lewis is going to – I love Derrick Henry.
Starting point is 00:27:17 You're misconstruing what I was talking about. Derrick Henry is one of my favorite players this year. I think he's still going to be fantastic. It was when you took Derrick Henry. He's going to be overdrafted. Well, I don't know when. I don't think he's going to be overdrafted. He's overdrafted in our magazine.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say. No, it's fine. Again, we could give a couple nuggets about the draft. You took him at the beginning of the third round. You had the swing. You had the first thing. You can't do it. 25th overall.
Starting point is 00:27:41 No way. And, you know, again, just for reference, it's not necessarily – you hear me say this all the time. If you have a conviction about a player and especially if you're picking on the ends, you know you're not going to get him on the way back. Take the guy and just hope that you're right. But you left. What did you take? You took Kelsey and Henry? Nope.
Starting point is 00:27:59 You took Keenan Allen and Henry. Keenan Allen and Henry. I took Kelsey. You could have had Kelsey and Keenan Allen to go with Todd Gurley. That's a much better start to your team if everything goes right. I don't know that I agree because I happen to think that the Deion Lewis thing is overblown. And I know, Jamie, that before – They're paying him a ton of money.
Starting point is 00:28:15 They are paying him $5 million. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Listen. Different. They are paying him –
Starting point is 00:28:23 Once a left tackle, once a running back. Well, also the salary is different. They are paying him. One's a left tackle, one's a running back. Well, also, the salary's different. They are paying Deion Lewis $5 million a year, four years $20 million. Latavius Murray signed for three years and $15 million last year. So if they don't have the right running back, they don't need to use him. And they could probably cut him. I think you look at his salary, they can cut him after one year.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It's different. It's a little bit different. But I know. It's a lot different different, but I know— It's a lot different. $5 million on the salary cap is nothing. I know that Derrick Henry— It's a funny back.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Derrick Henry's going to score touchdowns. It's Patriots culture taking a Patriots guy. There's a lot of things that go into signing Deion Lewis that help this team. I just don't think that it's going to ruin Derrick Henry to the level that I think Nick is talking about for several reasons. I just wouldn't take him in the third round. I would have taken him a little bit later. But again, first off, Adam, when I give you a hard time, you have to understand when it's sarcasm and when it's not.
Starting point is 00:29:13 No, but I know you thought it was a reach. That's fine. Not a huge reach. But obviously, I had the swing pick, so I wasn't going to get Derrick Henry in 24 picks later. No, of course not. So I had to reach for that. How long have you guys been doing the show together?
Starting point is 00:29:25 And, like, the stuff, like, you guys still don't know when each other are being sarcastic? Is that possible? No, no, no. It was on IM. It was, you know, we were just kind of, I knew he was being sarcastic, but I guess I'm just not really that affected
Starting point is 00:29:37 in a standard scoring league by Deion Lewis' signing. In a PPR league, obviously, it hurts Henry's value because they were talking about getting Henry involved in the passing game. I don't think that's really going to happen at this point. I don't think there will be a running back drafted after Derrick Henry that has as much touchdown potential
Starting point is 00:29:53 as Derrick Henry. That is the summation of how I feel about him and why I was okay reaching for him in standard scoring. I'll give you just a comparison. It's another magazine draft that I'm in the middle of right now, and it's half-point PPR. He went at the end of the third round, so it's not that far off.
Starting point is 00:30:10 It's 12 picks? Yeah. Half PPR, though. I wouldn't have taken him 25th overall in half PPR for what it's worth. Okay. I was going to talk about some more draft stuff, but I think we will move on, and you can check out the magazine draft. I did want to point out, though, that a lot of the good DSTs have some kind of dicey early season schedules,
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Starting point is 00:32:16 Go to 4hims.com slash FFT, F-O-R-H-I-M-S.com slash FFT, and get $5 for your first month for this hair kit. All right. Nick, you mentioned how long have we been doing this show. So it's been what, 10 plus years? I think we're in year nine. Yeah, you and I have been doing this for 10 years. And then Adam jumped aboard. In the ninth, tenth year, whatever you want to qualify this,
Starting point is 00:32:41 for the first time when Adam was doing a read, he said, and for my listeners. Wow. I did, yeah. In what year did he say that? This one. Good for him. I would have done it like four or five years earlier. You would have played this show yourself.
Starting point is 00:32:55 It would have been Nick Costos podcast featuring David Jamey. The minute you saw it near the top of the iTunes store, I should have been like, whoa, my show is awesome. Nick Costos today. That would have been it. Yes, I did say that. I apologize. It was – Why are you apologizing for?
Starting point is 00:33:09 It was not right. By the way, we're apparently missing a very emotional news conference right now. The Jason Witten retirement news conference is going on, and the entire Jerry Jones – Jerry Jones' entire family is crying. Go ahead, Giants fans. No, guys, I was going to say, because what they're going to be showing on a loop is the highlights from Dallas' one playoff victory that they had with Jason Witten over the Lions a couple years ago. I mean, I like Jason Witten.
Starting point is 00:33:29 He's a badass. Tough as hell. Yeah, it's funny you mention that. He's a compiler. He's going to the Hall of Fame, but he's a compiler. He's eligible for 240 games. He played in 239 of them. Yeah, incredible.
Starting point is 00:33:40 His first game that he missed, the only game, was his rookie season, right? And he killed the Giants. Because he had a broken jaw. He played through a ruptured spleen. Amazing career. Let's talk Dynasty a little bit. Jamie, I know you were trying to acquire the number one overall pick in the rookie draft, which would have been Saquon Barkley, which will be Saquon Barkley, and you were unsuccessful.
Starting point is 00:33:59 In which draft? Ours. What do you mean, ours? Is this the league I'm in? Yeah. Who's got the number one pick? Will Brinson. When are we starting this draft?
Starting point is 00:34:09 That's a good question. The beard has hidden the draft in his beard. This is BS. I mean, I'm already having two drafts concurrently right now. We can't get ours off the ground? So I offered Will, and he said no. I offered Will my first, second, and third round picks this year, which I won the league, so I finished 14th. Or I'm picking 14th.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Mike did go over here. I like it. My first and second pick next year and my first round pick in 2020 for Barkley, which is 1.1, and a fifth this year. His third and fourth next year and a second pick in 2020. Yeah, I would have laughed at you. And then when he said no at first, he said, wow, that's a great offer. I'll have to consider it.
Starting point is 00:34:47 And then he said a couple things, which we'll talk about on this, about the league. But then he said, I said, I'll take away all the – I'm going to guess you said, I don't care about the league. No. I'll take away – I said, I'll take away all of the draft pick compensation you're giving back to me. So I'm giving him all the same stuff minus the fifth and the third,
Starting point is 00:35:04 fourth, whatever. And he said – he thinks that that because he has Todd Gurley, he thinks having Gurley and Barkley can get him back in the winner's circle with what else he has on his team. So he just got a lot of injuries last year and had a terrible season. So he's counting on Barkley. He's also a bad GM. He's counting on Barkley turning things around.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Who's your best running back? Either McCaffrey or Ingram, depending on how you want to view it, Dynasty-wise. Would you give up both of them and all your picks this year for Saquon? No. Like, that's the type of deal that would get me thinking. If I were Brinson, I would say you only get the first pick and nothing else. Which is what I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:38 So wait. You have to make that deal. Reframe the terms. If you're Brinson? Yes. Reframe the terms. So, okay. So taking away what he would be giving me back
Starting point is 00:35:45 aside from Barkley would be, I'd give him my first, second, and third this year, my first and second next year, and my first in 2020 for Barkley. It's a no-brainer trade to me. The opposite. I think most people would agree with you, Nick. It's a no-brainer. But he's
Starting point is 00:36:01 got the last pick. And he'll have the last pick for two more years because he's got Saquon Barkley. Here's the thing with Dynasty that I think people miss the boat on sometimes. Like draft picks in a rookie draft are not that – like a couple years ago, I traded the seventh overall pick in a rookie draft for Brandon Cooks. But Cooks was still on the Saints. And I crushed it because who are you going to get with the seventh pick in a rookie draft that's better than Brad? So what you do with acquiring those picks is you trade those picks for proven veteran players instead of keep.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I'm not suggesting he keep all those picks and draft a million rookies with them, but you use those picks because people overvalue rookie picks and dynasty drafts. The other part of it is the steals that you'll be able to get that aren't the guys at the top. We all are expecting Barkley to be great, but then it's the group that's after him. It's a little bit – Like I like Royce Freeman second best out of the running backs. You're not going to get him at 14th place.
Starting point is 00:36:54 I didn't want to say that it's murky, but it's unsolidified right now because you say Freeman. Dave says Jones. I say Geis. You say that Miller is the best rookie receiver. I like DJ Moore. Dave is like Ridley. So there's a lot of guys, but I that Miller is the best rookie receiver. I like DJ Moore. Dave's like Ridley. So there's a lot of guys. But I go back to our draft last year.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Again, it was a startup, but we did have our teams in place by the time we did the rookie draft. You got Alvin Kamara in the second round. Questionable. Huh? Yeah. But you got Kamara in the second round or third round? Top of the second round. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:17 So you got him in the second round. I got Kenny Galladay, who may become something, who knows, in the sixth round. So you're going to find guys. It could be Jordan Wilkins, for example. That's not going to go in the first round, but he's find guys it could be um jordan wilkins for example that's not going to go in the first round but he's going to be probably a second or third round pick the quarterbacks if you're able to hit on like i think it was scott riley got to sean watson middle of the rookie draft no he had to it had to have been second or third baker mayfield's gonna go second or third round baker will go in the second i got trubisky in the fifth round i
Starting point is 00:37:42 mean you know your man crush who if he does become the star, you could still get good players. I've got Goff. So what Will could do conceivably is not just take all those picks and consolidate them for proven players. He could then trade three first-round picks to get back to the one spot if he really wants to to help a team who may or may not be rebuilding two years from now. So there's draft capital with these picks. But yes, I understand both sides of it where Will looking at it and saying, or like Adam, you said, I'm picking at the end. The 14th pick doesn't necessarily help him now,
Starting point is 00:38:16 but he gets all these picks moving forward that he could then turn into other things. You want to know when rookie draft picks matter? When you can get Saquon Barkley with one of the rookie draft picks. That's when they matter. It's, it's, I would laugh at Will if he said that.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Tough to disagree with that, but I mean, all the capital that you're getting though. You have to be smart. You're trading the cow for the beans. But your,
Starting point is 00:38:37 your, your dynasty leagues are how long, how long have they been in existence? The two that you're in? One I think is, this is year five and the other I think
Starting point is 00:38:43 is year three or four. You have to be in that type of investment. I took Jamal Charles with the second overall pick in one of those startup drafts. You have to be in that type of investment because I think this league in particular, we're still fresh in it where people are looking at it. And this was one of the conversations Will and I had. I'm looking at it as I don't know how long this league is going to be in existence. So I can give up all this capital right now and try to win it again next year. What a jerk.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Why wouldn't the league exist? It's just the nature. We're already transitioning one or two owners. Yeah, well, yeah, because the problem was I forget who it was. Someone in the middle of the newsroom goes, hey, we're doing a dynasty draft. And like three morons raised their hand and said, I want to do it. I wouldn't have let those people in. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:23 But I guess the point would be is you're – I mean, am I wrong? No, but that's part of it is I'm looking at it from the standpoint of I could win now and still be very good over the course of time. But also I can give up some of these draft picks because I don't know how long the league is going to be in existence. All right. So final question on this. How much better do you think Saquon Barkley is than the rest of the rookie running back group in a dynasty league? Significantly.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yes. If you're not going to take a trade where you're getting five future draft picks for Saquon Barkley, then obviously you value him greatly. Go back a year ago, though. What was the difference between Fournette and the rest of the class? At this point right now. It's not as good as Barkley. I fully admit that. But yeah, Fournette was the far of the class. At this point, right now. It's not as good as Barkley. I fully admit that. But yeah, Fournette was the far and away number one guy.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I agree. That's a much better way to go. Who were the other guys in that class? The second best guy last year for me was Dalvin Cook. And I would have told you, as much as I love Dalvin Cook, that Zeke was the better guy. You like the mixer guy. Yeah, that's what I meant. Fournette's the better guy.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah, but you had McCaffrey. But I guess the point would be is the two guys that came out of this class that everybody is – Derrick Henry. Yeah, Derrick Henry was like the second running back take. But I think that 2018 looks more like 2017 in terms of running backs than it does 2016. So I don't know that the number one pick is as valuable as it was the Zeke year. And I would also say that I have serious concerns about the Giants going forward. I think that they might have a really bad GM, and I think they might have a really bad team.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Oh, they do. Yeah, but Saquon's still good. He is, but he's not in the best spot. And sometimes opportunity and talent around you and just coaching, sometimes all that matters a lot more than talent. Well, it happened for the two guys that were not the high-profile guys in the draft last year, in Kamara and Hunt, because they went to great situations, the Saints and the Chiefs and how those guys operate in their offenses, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:41:24 So looking at it this year, who are those guys? Could it be? Satan? I don't know. I don't know if it's Geis because the Redskins don't necessarily feel like the most stable franchise. I mean, it could be Sonny Michel, however long the Patriots. No, I mean, I feel like you can't trust like Michel.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I like a lot of guys talent better than Royce Freeman, but Freeman's the opportunity, like his situation. Right. But, but Freeman and Jones, I think are in spots where there could be turnover with coach and quarterback and situation that while it's good short term,
Starting point is 00:41:58 it may not be good longterm. Like if the bucks lose Jason light and, and dirt cutter are probably gone and you have a whole new restart there with still building around Jameis. It depends on how well Jones does. In Denver, I don't think it depends on Jones. It depends on anybody. It sure does. If he goes out this year and has what I think he could have, I'd say today.
Starting point is 00:42:13 But that's good, though, if that happens. Eight touchdowns and a ton of yards. Because the offense is still going to be good in Tampa. Like Ronald Jones is going to be good because the offense is awesome. Unless he's not good, in which case the new coach comes in and changes things around. The expectation is that he will be good, though. I love him. Would you be shocked if Ronald Jones was bad?
Starting point is 00:42:29 I would be shocked. I'd be shocked if all these guys are bad. They're all in such great situations. I mean, even extended to Rashad Penny and Kerryon Johnson. They're in good situations. Kerryon Johnson is the guy that I could see. Maybe not year one, but once they get blunt out of there. Like I said on the last show,
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Starting point is 00:44:05 A lot of stuff to get to. Let's talk about this random stat. Dak Prescott, in 2016, played three games without Des Bryant. He scored 21, 21, and 25 fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown leagues. Does that mean anything to you? Who did he play him against? San Francisco, Cincinnati, and Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:44:31 He's got a chance to be sneaky this year. I totally agree. I think he's going to be Alex Smith, just a guy you forget about. And all of a sudden, I should have drafted him. I just think Garrett and Linehan are such clowns. Good offensive line. It's not going to take much from this receiving court to replicate what they had a year ago.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Let me get it to the receiving court. So we have voicemails on this show. I haven't really been talking about them enough lately. Phone number is 954-689-3199. Whose cell phone is that? It's not a cell phone. 954-689-3199. Whose cell phone is that? It's not a cell phone. 954-689-3199. I can't wait to prank that number this weekend.
Starting point is 00:45:11 We give them Pete Prisco's cell phone number. Oh, that would be great. Pete laying out on the beach right now, and he starts getting 100 calls. Getting his back rubbed by Dane, our coordinating producer. And, yeah, leave us a voicemail. That's actually true. That's what's happening. Tweet Pete and tell him.
Starting point is 00:45:27 With your name and your city and any greeting you want and your question. Not a keeper question, preferably, unless it's a really short one. And we have just one voicemail I'm going to play today. We'll play some more next week. 954-689-3199. Now, we have, as I mentioned, the Ion Fantasy Football Radio Show Saturdays during the fall, during football season. We've got our best caller, Pat.
Starting point is 00:45:50 He finally called the hotline, 954-689-3199, and he left us this message. Was it a hotmail or a voicemail line? What are we calling it? Hotline. Hotline. Not hotmail. No, you said it was a voicemail. It's voicemail, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:03 The hotline. He called the hotline. He left a voicemail. Is's voicemail, yeah. The hotline. He called the hotline. He left a voicemail. Is that different? I don't think the line's especially hot. All right, fine. So Pat left us a voicemail about the NFL. We have a trade.
Starting point is 00:46:13 We have a trade. Will you just shut up, please? So Pat left us a voicemail. He left it before they cut Dez, before the NFL draft, so you can ignore the Dez part of it. But let's listen to kind of crazy Pat and his kind of kooky voicemail. Pat from Ohio. You're on CBS Sports Radio.
Starting point is 00:46:31 What is up, fellas? I'm back, baby. They're Heath, Clark, Aramis, Athos, Porthos, and whatchamacallit. This offseason football frenzy's got me dizzy, and I've been fiending football like fiending for a good chocolate. But it's like somebody hands you Tootsie Rolls. I mean, they're good, especially the flavored ones, MLB, NBA, NHL. But it's just not the same.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Some binge watch Stranger Things. Guilty. Some binge listen to Fantasy Football Today. Guilty. Now that you guys got my fix, I'm pumped. I feel like going outside and talking about my tree. Here we go. My question is, if you guys could talk about the Dallas Cowboys receiving
Starting point is 00:47:16 corps, Dallas I do adore, but I may be a little bit more of a fantasy fan. Somebody else has to score besides Zeke and Dak. Dak said he'll throw it to you if you're open. Does that mean he can't throw you open? When to take Hearns? Would you even take Terrence Williams or Beasley? Would Dez be back
Starting point is 00:47:37 as the NFL turns? Au revoir, Three Musketeers. Till we meet again, have a lovely evening. That was amazing. That guy said goodbye four different ways. That guy likes the sound of his own voice more than I like the sound of mine. He's so funny.
Starting point is 00:47:54 He's our best caller on the radio shows. I think it works better Saturday night because he's a lot quicker. I guess so. That was a long one. Yeah, well, what do you guys think? I just wanted to get Nick's take on the Cowboys wide receivers. They drafted a wide receiver that we like. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:48:09 I think you can only – well, I think you can really only draft one, and it's Gallup, who I think should step in day one and be the number one option in the passing game. I actually like him a little bit this year. I think he's got a chance this year, not because I think, I think like Cortland Sutton, for instance, is more talented than him. I think Christian Kirk is more explosive than he is, but the opportunity that he's going to get is far, far outweighs the others. Are you taking him over Trubisky in round 12? Yeah. Yeah. And I'll take it. i might take it this far i would take anthony
Starting point is 00:48:47 miller as the first receiver what round i don't know nine ten i don't know i'm telling you okay nine or ten um more seconds ridley third gallop fourth I think that's going to be the top four. Yeah, I would actually take Gallup. I like Miller a little bit better in PPR than I do standard, but I would take Miller over Gallup in PPR. In standard, I would take Gallup second behind Moore. I think you can make that. I don't know that I think he's as talented, but again, yeah, the situation.
Starting point is 00:49:22 It's the same thing with these running backs. They're walking into situations where they're going to get the ball a lot, and he's going to get the ball a lot. I mean, the guys that they have on their roster right now, Terrence Williams, you know what he is. He hasn't performed very well since Dak Prescott's been the starter. He gives you two good games a year. Alan Hearns and Cole Beasley are better suited to play in the slot.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Nick, you've been talking about this on all the football shows that we've done, and I think a couple times in here that the Cowboys need to run an offense similar to the Patriots, just use a lot of these interior guys. Just dink and dunk, man, like with all these guys that they've done and I think a couple times in here that the Cowboys need to run an offense similar to the Patriots you know just use a lot of these interior guys dink and dunk man like with all these guys that they've got but they have two athletic guys that that could help this offense in a big way the one is Gallup because again looking at this year before the other is Rico gathers I mean you know I think I said it on the last free this guy man he was a freak awesome in the preseason had the concussion they put him on IR for the rest of the year. And now there's a huge opening. You know, they have a couple guys.
Starting point is 00:50:07 They drafted Dalton Schultz. They have Jeff Swaim, Blake. I'm blanking on his name. Kid from Oklahoma State. They signed as an undrafted rookie. Oh, Blake Jarwin. Blake Jarwin. All four of these guys are going to compete for this spot.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Rico Gathers has the most upside and is not close. If he's out there and you're in a dynasty league, if Rico Gathers is out there, you go claim him right now. 100%. Right now. Because, again, it's opportunity. So Gallup and Gathers, the two Gs, they could have a big season for the Cowboys catching up.
Starting point is 00:50:36 GG. GG. Yeah. And we got an email from George, email of the day. He stumbled upon a sports movie draft on CBSSports.com. This might be my cue to leave. You don't want to talk about the sports movie draft? I'm not a huge movie guy.
Starting point is 00:50:52 All right, well, what do you think the number one pick was in the sports movie draft? I mean, I don't know. People are dumb. Could be anything. Air Bud? It was Rocky. It was Rocky. But number 33 was Jerry Maguire, which was not a good.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Jerry Maguire is a good movie. That was the 33rd selection. It's a sports movie. Adam makes the contention that it's not a sports movie. It's not a sports movie at all. It's absolutely not a sports movie. You are the same ones that think Die Hard is a Christmas movie. No, I don't think that.
Starting point is 00:51:22 In fact, it's not. And in fact, you think Die Hard is not a Christmas movie. Of course it's not a Christmas movie. Of course it's not. You were murdered in it. It's not a Christmas movie. No, I don't think that. In fact, it's not. And in fact, you think Die Hard's not a Christmas movie, but you think... Of course it's not a Christmas movie. Of course it's not. People are murdered in it. It's not a Christmas movie.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yeah, you're 100% right. And Jerry Maguire's not a sports movie. Let me ask you this. How many athletes can you name from Jerry Maguire? The names of athletes.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I've never seen it. You've never seen Jerry Maguire? Well, I saw it like a long time ago, though. Like only one time. This is your cue to leave, then. I think so. Any Given Sunday is the best sports movie ever.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Oh, God. Oh, that's a terrible – No, but how can you – Any Given Sunday is awesome. It is awesome. I just don't know if it's the best sports movie. No. It's a great football movie. It's not even the best football movie.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Rudy's better. North Dallas 40 is better. What are you, 70? Rudy is better. God. Remember the Titans is better. Remember the Titans is 100 times better. No, it? Rudy is better. God. Remember the Titans is better? Remember the Titans is 100 times better. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Yeah. Remember the Titans was spoiled for me. The first time I watched it, I'm sitting there with my buddy, and he goes, they just won the game, and they're eating at the diner. And the guy goes, wait until this kid gets paralyzed. And I'm like – and then he gets into the car accident. I'm like, why'd you ruin the movie for me, buddy? That's like what you did with Game of Thrones, Nick. You spoiled the end of season six for me.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I did not do that. You 100% did. How so? You told me what was going to happen. You told me the theory. What was the – oh. About the tower scene. Yeah, I kind of did.
Starting point is 00:52:35 You did. You did. It's really not that big a deal. It's a pretty big deal. It was a great moment. It was a big deal. It might have been a bad move by me. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Nick, thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me. Always fun to have you on. That's Nick Kostos. Watch him on CBS Sports HQ. And let's finish up with some emails. Don't have a name here. Dave, give me a name and a city.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Francis from Oak Park, Illinois. You can call him Psycho. Dear the peeper, the peeped, seal, and heath bar. I do like that I'm being called the peeper now. It's quite funny. I don't like being called Seal. Stop it. Starting a new Dynasty League.
Starting point is 00:53:09 We have a new nickname. Yay! Which would be my first time playing in this type of league. What are some Dynasty musts or good options to have? Numbers of keepers, bench space, et cetera. It will be PPR. P.S. Dave needs to tell his kiss from a rose story. Art, art, art, art art That's the wrong scene
Starting point is 00:53:29 I know Anyway Dave Jamie Dynasty Musts I didn't hear the question I was waiting for my seal I mean I don't really love my Dynasty League because I think there are too many players rostered. So if you want to have a league with a lot of players rostered, I think you should start a lot of players.
Starting point is 00:53:54 We start basically a normal lineup, and we have massive benches, and it makes no sense to me. And there's very little waiver wiring and free agency during the season. And I personally hate the non-snake draft in the rookie draft, but I know a lot of leagues do that. The guy who was the first pick in the first round or the girl has the first pick in the second round or third round. I hate that, but it's up to you. And, yeah, Dynasty Leagues are usually pretty big roster sizes. So go from there.
Starting point is 00:54:23 You guys have anything to add? You don't have to have huge roster sizes. So go from there. You guys have anything to add? You don't have to have huge roster sizes. Our Dynasty League has huge roster sizes because it's an IDP league. So we're starting two defensive linemen, two linebackers, two defensive backs, and a defensive flex. You need backups for those guys. So that's why ours is so long and intense. But we also have taxi spots and IR spots and those things I think are valuable too.
Starting point is 00:54:43 But I think that that's fun stuff that you can have. We've got two spots on our rosters that are for rookies only, and you can keep them there as long as you want. But if you use them, you can't put them back, and you can't replace them. Okay. Two pieces of news, Adam. We had a trade. The Lions traded Hakeem Spence to the Dolphins, defensive tackle.
Starting point is 00:55:03 What'd they get back? I don't know. And the Falcons have signed Matt Ryan to a $100 million extension. $30 million a year, $100 million guaranteed. So Aaron Rodgers is getting ready to get paid. And, yeah, they're working on that contract. Andy from the hometown of Craig Dahl. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Where's he from? He's from, I don't know. I don't, whatever. Anyway, Andy says, Dear Henderson, Greenway, Studwell, and Del Rio. Vikings linebackers. Very nice. I'm in a keeper league. You can keep two players.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Due to going for it last year via trades, Chris Carson will have to be one of my keepers. I want Rashad Penny, and the league will know this. Should I throw him out? They're doing an auction, by the way. Should I throw him out with my first pick and have a solid dollar amount set that I won't exceed? So if Rashad Penny gets too high, I won't overspend and can deploy a backup plan right away? Do you like that strategy? So he's got Chris Carson.
Starting point is 00:56:02 He is determined to get Rashad Penny. It's perfect. Yeah, first pick. Andy has nailed it. So the very first guy he throws out is Rashad Penny. There will probably be some doofus in the league that will try to bid him up. If it gets to be too expensive, no big deal. You'll let him get Penny. Maybe you trade him Carson along the way, and then you go after a different running back. All right. From Joe, how does Calvin Ridley impact Julio Jones? Enough for me to consider keeping Deshaun Watson or Mike Evans over Julio? No. No.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Julio is still Julio. He's going to be the number one guy. I think he's going to have a better year than what he had last year. Typically, he has very good years when he plays. And he's healthy this year. Something he wasn't last year. Remember, he didn't take part in training camp. He's going to be ready to go, hopefully, and I think it'll make a difference for everything
Starting point is 00:56:50 in Atlanta. All right, Jake from Queens. Keeper League. You lose two spots from where you drafted a player and a spot if you keep a free agent. And you can keep two players if one was a rookie. All right, a lot of stipulations. I picked up Kamara in free agency, so I am giving up an 11th round pick for Alvin Kamara. And I drafted Kareem Hunt in the third round.
Starting point is 00:57:11 If I keep Hunt, I lose a first round pick. So from that perspective alone, do I keep Hunt or do I let him go and try to get another guy? I feel like I can't lose either way, and I don't know about Kareem Hunt because Reid used him in a weird way last year. Weird meaning? plentiful? How weird? So he's got to choose between these guys? That midseason stretch maybe? They didn't really give him the ball enough.
Starting point is 00:57:33 It was frustrating, but I think he'll be fine. So it's Hunt in the third or Kamara in the 11th? No, no. He says you can keep two players if one was a rookie. These guys are both rookies. No, it's Kamara in the 11th, and is it Hunt in the first or not him? Sounds like Hunt in the first. Yeah him? Sounds like Hunt in the first. Yeah, you're keeping Hunt and Kamara.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Well, what are his other choices? He didn't say them. Yeah, he didn't say. They're probably crappy. It's like Des Bryant in round two, Jordy Nelson in round three. I mean, I guess it would depend on when he picks. Jason Witten in round four. If you don't have to give up your first-round pick, I would like to keep that.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Yeah, right. If you can get Kareem Hunt back with your first-round pick, then keep someone else. But he's fine as a first-round keeper. There's no value there. From Nick. So the value is you've got the running back. You've got Kareem Hunt on your team.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Okay. Pretty good. What if you keep somebody else and get Barkley? Would you rather do that? What do you mean keep somebody else and get Barkley? If you keep somebody else in the fifth round and get Barkley in the first round. Instead of Hunt? Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Yeah, I'd probably rather have that. Okay, so we don't know what else he has. That's why we can't answer the question fully. We don't and get Barkley in the first round. Instead of Hunt? Yes. Yeah, I'd probably rather have that. Okay, so we don't know else he has. That's why we can't answer the question fully. We don't know where he picks in round one either. Well, we just don't know anything. We're going to call you, Jake. And Nick wants to know expectations for guys coming back from fairly serious injuries. Dalvin Cook, Deshaun Watson, Alan Robinson, Beckham, Andrew Luck.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I'll shorten it and just ask, is there any one injured player, or more than one, that you're really wary of? Injured during the season? Coming back from injury. Yeah, but that's a little bit different because if you're coming back from injury, like Marlon Mack and Alshon Jeffery are coming back from injuries. Whatever you want to say, I just want to know, are there players coming back from injury That you are maybe hesitant to draft
Starting point is 00:59:08 Wentz because of his injury And Jeffrey's injury That's a good point Jordan Reed, Tyler Eifert Because they're always hurt But the difference between those guys Last year and this year Is that now you can get them so late
Starting point is 00:59:21 That it doesn't really scare you. Okay. All right, guys. Thank you. Good show. Fun stuff. Indeed. Yo, I came back to tell you I was undefeated.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Carried off the field like Don Shula. That was Nick Costas. I want to thank him for coming on and all of you for listening. Have a great weekend. We'll come back on Monday or Tuesday and do this fun stuff again. See you later. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na.

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