Fantasy Football Today - 05/06: Bold Predictions and a Mailbag! (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: May 7, 2019We're going to answer a lot of your questions today, but first let's be bold! Bold predictions about Sammy Watkins, Kenyan Drake and rookie TEs to kick off the episode ... Dave and Heath made a trade ...in their Dynasty league. Let's dissect it (9:30) and find out who won and also speak generally about Dynasty trades ... Emails emails emails (18:00)! We've got new league ideas, keeper and dynasty questions, auction strategy (29:30) and Fantasy Regulators (45:05) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Tuesday, March 7th.
Welcome to another off-season edition of the Fantasy Football Today podcast.
Yeah, we're twice a week now. But pretty soon we'll be up to three times a week,
four times a week, five times a week, so get excited.
So, yeah, we've really done a thorough job recapping the NFL draft.
Now we want to hear from you.
Today is a mailbag show.
Your email is at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
I'm Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg, Heath Cummings.
What is up?
Woo!
This is the best start to a podcast ever.
This is better than the start that we just recorded, though.
It is better.
Yeah, we did about a minute of a show and then realized that something was off.
I had to start over.
This is a much better start.
Yeah, I'm on cloud nine. We're in the middle of our rookie-only draft, and
I've made moves
that have cemented me as league
champion for the next seven years.
Okay, well, I'm sure there's going to be a little controversy
about that, and we are going
to talk about that draft, because Dave and Heath
made a trade in their dynasty
draft that's going on right now,
and we want to discuss it. I've
separated the emails into four
different categories. One is just like normal questions, sort of generic questions. Two is
keeper leagues, three dynasty leagues, four fantasy regulators. We will get to all four of those
categories. I did want to start with something bold, bold predictions from you people. Just,
you know, let's have a little fun. It's May 7th. What is something bold that you would like to bring to the table?
Heath, why don't we start with you?
Kenyon Drake will be a top 12 running back in PPR.
Are you kidding?
Is that really it?
Yeah.
Did you read my bold prediction?
Sammy Watkins will be a top five wide receiver this season.
That's pretty bold.
That's pretty good.
So you're drafting Sammy Watkins over?
Well, you don't have to draft him there.
It'd be silly to draft him in the second round.
If you're making the bold prediction.
I'm going to draft Sammy Watkins in the fourth round.
Okay.
Which I think is actually boldish.
I'm going to draft him ahead of Brandon Cooks.
Oh, that's okay.
All right.
All right.
All right.
So what is that based on?
How many game suspension is that based on?
Or how many games does Tyreek Hill play for the Chiefs in your mind?
Right now?
Yeah.
Zero. Zero.
Okay.
All right, I'll talk about the Dolphins running backs.
Mine was a Miami running back will be awesome.
Do you think one could be top 12 in PBR?
Is that not bold, Jamie?
I mean, name one.
Well, I don't know.
A Miami running back.
You got to think it's...
Mercury Morris?
Yeah, it's not going to be Gore or Morris. You got to think it's – Mercury Morris? Frank Gore? Yeah, it's not going to be Gore or Morris.
You got to think it'd be Drake.
Ricky Williams?
I like Caleb Lodge.
Lorenzo Hampton?
I like Caleb Lodge.
Yeah, I mean, it makes sense that it would be Kenyon Drake.
He's good.
He's good.
Just new coaching staff.
Give him the ball.
Let's hope he doesn't fumble.
Four fumbles on 286 career carries.
It's kind of a lot.
But, obviously when when kenyan
drake gets work he is good and he caught 53 passes last year so we know he can do that
meanwhile if someone uh stopped listening to us in 2016 and started listening to us right now they
would just think wow you still love kenyan drake oh yeah i did love kenyan drake what yeah when
they drafted him and so you're going back to the well now. You can't stay away.
If somebody stopped playing fantasy football because they hated the NFL draft in 2016 and turned off our shows after reviewing the NFL draft when you were in love with Kenyon Drake
and just picked it up right now, they would think nothing's changed.
That would be a strange podcast listener.
Welcome back to you, sir or lady.
Did you know that Kalen Balazs once scored eight touchdowns in a game in college?
Yes.
Do you know who he faced in that game, the quarterback he faced?
Well, he didn't face the quarterback.
It was Patrick Mahomes, yeah.
Okay.
Well, no wonder he scored eight touchdowns if the quarterback was the defense.
Well, it was a shootout.
It's just a fun note for you.
Okay, that said my piece.
Kenyon Drake's good.
Do you think Kenyon Drake will get 15 carries a game?
No.
Right about there.
13 to 15.
Jamie, what's your bold prediction?
Hey, are you kidding me right now?
You cannot do that.
I think I have to bleep that.
You cannot say anything about Game of Thrones without saying spoiler alert.
Because people might be on season four.
You cannot say anything.
Oh, stop.
It's a bold prediction.
It's not something that's happening.
You're not announcing something that you know for sure is going to happen.
I went on a limb.
Yeah, but what he said, which bleeped, bleeped, what he said actually kind of might happen.
You can't.
You just spoiled it for me.
Jamie just spoiled it for you.
I thought it was a bold prediction.
I didn't know it was going to happen.
It is bold, but that was really poor manners.
Now we don't have to watch the series, Heath.
We're off the hook.
Dave, why don't you give us a football bold prediction?
We'll come back and Jamie will give us one after. Dave, why don't you give us a football bowl prediction?
We'll come back and Jamie will give us one after.
No, I won't.
I gave you mine.
Come on.
Dave, show us that.
Well done.
TJ Hawkinson, Noah Fant, rookie tight ends,
are both top 10 fantasy tight ends right now.
For this season.
For this season.
They will finish as top 10 tight ends.
You will draft them as top 10 tight ends. I'm writing a story about tight ends for our magazine.
Do you know how many times in the last five years a rookie tight end has finished in the top 10?
I'm going to say once.
Once.
Once.
I'm going to say once.
It's going to happen twice this year.
And I want to draft these guys just to have on my team as streamers to begin the year.
Do you want to cut in week two?
I might cut them by week two.
But what difference does it make if I'm picking between them and Austin Hooper and Jordan Reed and Chris Herndon and all these other guys that are just going to be.
Okay, great.
So what's the argument for the other guys?
Oh, they've been around longer, so they must be better.
Jordan has been a top ten tight end.
He has.
But I don't.
So has Jordan Reed.
I don't.
I'm going with the rookies.
I'm going with the fresh blood.
I'm going with the first round tight ends,
and I think that they'll be good enough to get you off to a good start
in your fantasy league.
Austin Hooper was a top 10
tight end last year. Does anybody
really think...
Does anybody want that, though? I don't mind having Austin Hooper
on my fantasy team. I'm doing it in round 13.
In seasonal leagues, to be honest with you, just because
rookie tight ends tend to struggle.
And Detroit's given us
an example of that already.
But at least
I'd rather
take my chances with the
Falcons offense
if I'm just looking for
consistent production?
Oh, my gosh.
Heath, your chair.
I can't.
I can't.
There's nothing.
I mean, I'm like literally.
You have to stand for the rest of the podcast.
Or sit crisscross applesauce.
Like, how much am I moving right now, Dave?
Right now, you're not.
Now you're kind of swiveling around.
And now you're leaning back and the chair is screaming for mercy.
This is what my chair is like at the office.
Here, I'm going to sit just like this and not use the back support on the chair for the rest of the podcast.
Okay.
By the way, I'm trying to do this sort of impromptu.
How are you sitting?
Just straight up?
That's not going to get old for you.
It's excellent posture.
I'm trying to do this.
There's 100,000 chairs in this office.
Why don't you go get a different chair?
It appears that
last year, the number
10 tight end in PPR
was Vance McDonald.
He scored 133 fantasy points.
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
That is the fewest in at least
five years for a number 10 tight end.
So last year was a really bad year for tight ends.
All right, Jamie, do you have a bold prediction,
or should we just get to some emails, some trades?
We'll return in episode four.
Oh, my gosh, another bleep.
All right, so let's talk about the trade that Heath and Dave made in their Dynasty League,
which is doing its rookie-only draft right now.
You can give us some details on the league.
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So what was the trade, guys?
Let's talk about the league a little bit.
Oh, I can do it too.
Dave.
I mean, there's backstory here that I think is important.
Well, then you should have started telling it when he asked to tell him about the trip.
Well, I mean, do you want to just get right to the nuts and bolts of this,
or do you want to hear the backstory, Adam?
I'd like to hear a little bit about the league, and then...
The backstory is the White Walkers, they show up. Hey, hey, hey white walkers they show this is a 14 team leader
dynasty league where you start 16 players including seven idp three wide receivers two offensive flexes
and dave renamed his team before the draft because he was so unhappy with the state of his team.
I went for win now.
I went for the win now strategy when we drafted two years ago.
You almost did.
I almost did.
First year.
And then second year, I had Le'Veon Bell.
I had Kareem Hunt.
I had nothing at wide receiver.
I was a mess.
And so I went into this draft.
I pulled off one trade during the season.
I traded Jimmy Graham and a second round pick to get somebody's
first round pick. It was a contending team.
So I came into this draft with two first round picks.
Fourth overall and twelfth overall.
But I really hate my team.
And I really
think maybe I have the best team
I've ever put together in any sport.
And it didn't make the playoffs
last year, which is awesome.
And I had the sixth pick.
And Dave was shocked to see David Montgomery fall to him with the fourth pick.
Right.
And he took Montgomery when he had planned on taking Paris Campbell.
And two picks later, it was my turn.
And Dave came to me looking to trade back up to get Paris Campbell. So I did the thing you should do when you're in this situation
and announced that I was willing to trade down
and then tried to get Jamie to make an offer as well
so that Dave couldn't just steal the pick from me.
So I offered my first and second for your first and third and you said i don't want to move down six spots in
the first round and move up seven spots in the second round now a trade like that might work
if we're talking about late round picks in a rookie only draft but when we're talking about
these valuable picks in the first round i get where you're coming from so then i i immediately
went to all right how about my first and my second for your first and your fourth?
And I even added a bunch of question marks to act like it was ludicrous to even suggest such a thing when I knew that I would take that deal.
And then Heath just went ahead and made the offer that was pretty much the only thing on the table for me to take if I wanted Paris Campbell.
What pick was your second round pick?
Your first pick was 12, right?
I actually maneuvered to take the second to last pick in the second round because I didn't have a second round pick? Your first pick was 12, right? I actually maneuvered to take the second-to-last pick in the second round
because I didn't have a second-round pick when the draft started.
But there was a team in the league, Matt Koka's team.
It was pick 27.
So you were offering picks 12 and 27?
Right, for 6 and 55.
And then what ended up getting accepted?
I countered with, and Dave accepted,
I received pick 12, pick 27, and Marquise Lee.
Dave received pick 6, pick 55, and pick 76.
So you didn't really want Marquise Lee?
I did.
Dave, I meant you.
No, I have enough crappy receivers on my team.
Okay.
All right.
But my receivers were so bad that Marquise Lee was in my starting lineup. No, I have enough crappy receivers on my team. Okay. All right.
And then you took it.
But my receivers were so bad that Marquise Lee was in my starting lineup.
Like Quincy and Newton was in my starting lineup. And Marquise Lee could be good.
He sure could.
So that's why you moved up to get Paris Campbell.
But I let it go because I had to have Paris Campbell.
Okay.
And I tried moving up.
I knew Heath wasn't going to take Paris Campbell,
but I didn't know if anybody 7 through 11 would take Paris.
I'm almost positive Jamie would have if he was there at 11.
So I had to move up to get him,
and the only team that I could trade with that was interested was Heath's.
And it worked out well for me because Hakeem Butler is my number 5 player overall,
and he was available for me at 12.
And you would have taken him at 6 if there wasn't a chance.
I would have taken DK Metcalf.
Okay.
All right. But it wouldn't have been Campbell. You would have taken dk metcalf okay all right but it wouldn't
have been campbell you would have gotten a guy that you liked and so my my rebuild is it's going
to be a little thin this year but it's with two of my top four players in dynasty drafts which is
david montgomery and paris campbell right so jamie who do you think won the trade uh i think it's
even you know because dave got the player that he wanted.
He had to give up a little bit to get him.
I think Mark Eastley is good because I agree with Heath.
He could be good.
So if he comes back 100% and steps in as the number one receiver in what should be a better passing game,
then Heath wins the trade.
But I don't think it's by much.
You know, I think you look at, you know, Heath got what he wanted.
So it works out great on his regard.
But again, I think Paris Campbell is the best player that ended up coming out of this trade.
And just for the record, what it really cost me, like true cost, because I made a lot of moves to get the picks to shovel into Heath's lap to get Paris Campbell.
It cost me Jimmy Graham, Marquise Lee, my second-round pick, and my third-round pick.
And as we've seen in this league, and it certainly happens in most dynasty leagues,
whatever that ends up, like you took Devin White.
Yep.
So Devin White, if he's the star IDP player that he can be,
then that sways the trade in your favor even more.
I did run a Twitter poll, not to tell people who made the trade or anything,
but just with those assets before any players were picked.
And it came out almost, I got 51% of the vote, Dave got 49%.
Who did you take 12th?
Hakeem Butler.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, I think the risky thing is that there's no –
we don't know that Paris Campbell is going to be six picks better than Hakeem Butler.
That's kind of the –
I would rather have Hakeem Butler than Paris Campbell.
There you go.
It's personal preference.
I know a lot of people would rather have Campbell.
It's just – that's why I think it makes sense at that point in the draft to trade back.
For you, yeah.
If you can get your guy.
Absolutely.
If there's somebody that you're not in love with at that spot.
And I think you're going to see a lot of dynasty drafts not just trading picks, but trading picks for veterans.
Because there are people like in Dave's position that need to stockpile draft picks and turn their roster over, not necessarily in a one-year situation, but over a couple of seasons, while contending teams that are picking.
Like in Heath's case, he has a very good team, but he didn't make the playoffs,
so he's in a great spot because he can still have a great roster
and maybe turn into some veterans.
Not necessarily Marquise Lee you hope a little bit better,
but that's the type of move you try to make is to try and get some guys
that are a little bit more proven or older guys.
I mean, I think that's something that goes overlooked in a lot of dynasty leagues.
Like if your team's ready to win now, go get somebody who's got one or two years left on
their, maybe their NFL career, you know, like last year, you know, you would, you would,
or this year, for example, you know, if you can get, um, you know, not the best example,
but I'm just thinking guys that are, you know, in contract years or end of their careers,
you know, Jimmy Graham, if he's still the guy in green Bay, uh, Kyle Rudolph, if he's
still the guy in Minnesota, you know. Deshaun Jackson in Philadelphia.
Guys that don't necessarily have a long tenure left but can be somewhat productive and you don't have to give up a lot of capital to get them.
Could you go even bigger than that with guys like Golden Tate?
Yeah, absolutely.
Just guys that have been around the NFL for six, seven years.
Believe me, I was giving a crappy example.
But Sean McCoy, if you need a third running back or a fourth running back.
Those type of guys that aren't necessarily going to help your team two years from now,
but if you need somebody just at some depth.
Like Dave and I discussed a trade that I thought would have been good for both of us,
which was Carlos Hyde for Michael Gallup.
You didn't answer me, so I pulled the trade off the table,
especially once because I have Tyree Kill, so I lost him.
So Michael Gallup two years from now, which is what I'm thinking of him,
is if Amari Cooper leaves and Gallup is the number one receiver for for dallas he could have significant value whereas carlos hyde may be the
best running back in kansas city that's huge if there uh but if he gets for like i was looking at
can i get somebody for four or five games because my running back depth after my two starters of
christian mccaffrey mark ingram is very I was looking at, okay, can I flip my essentially seventh receiver
for what could be maybe my third running back?
That was how I was approaching it because I don't expect Carlos Hyde two years from now
to be very good unless, of course, he just blows away Andy Reid
and plays really well this year in Kansas City.
All right, I can already see where this show is going.
That was a fun segment, but I know it's going to be like,
well, we got to like six emails and I didn't have enough time for the rest,
so we'll do them later.
I'm not going to let that happen.
Let's get to some emails right now and some tweets.
Email of the day number one is from Niall from Providence, Rhode Island.
Dark Knight Rises is more of a football movie than Jerry Maguire is.
If you're running short on time, then why don't you cut this nonsense out?
This is a funny email, and it is perfectly on point.
All right, tweet of the day is from Joey.
Do you believe that as well? No, I think
Jerry Maguire is slightly more of a football movie
than Dark Knight Rises, but that's very funny.
Will you do your
Jerry Maguire football movie?
Will you do your Bane impersonation before the end of this podcast?
I'll try.
It sucks. I hear Scott White
does a great Michael Caine. He actually does.
We can just recreate scenes from the Dark Knight
Rises.
Joey says, I'm like Joe Pesci right now. a great Michael Caine. He actually does. We can just recreate scenes from The Dark Knight Rises. Okay, okay.
Joey says, I'm like Joe Pesci right now.
Okay, okay, okay. Where do you think the best spot to pick in a 12
team PPR draft this year is?
Four.
Why? Because you're
guaranteed one of the top
four running backs and you'll pick ahead of everybody
else who's taking one of those top four running backs, and you'll pick ahead of everybody else who's taking one of those top four running backs
in the even rounds.
Yeah.
I was going to say maybe five because I put Melvin Gordon there, but...
Sure.
If you think Melvin Gordon is on par with them, and he's close,
then you could say five.
What do you guys think?
Jamie Heath, best place to pick in PPR?
I don't care.
Oh, come on.
No, I mean, seriously.
I think you find, like, we did our magazine draft.
I picked 12th.
I have no problem with that, you know, taking two receivers like I did.
But if you could pick your spot.
Do you even, like, think about that now?
No, never.
You might think about that in August.
Never.
I'm going to go nine.
Nine?
Why?
Nine's a nice number.
I mean, I think that Dave—
I understand why people—and Dave's point is great.
You're getting one of the top-tier guys, and you pick early in the second round.
I just never look at it that way.
That's just my personal opinion.
I don't care.
You tell me I'm picking seventh, I'll find ways to make it successful.
You tell me I'm picking first, I'll be fine with it.
You get one of those stud running backs, and then you go get a hoagie,
and then you come back in round two, and one of those tight ends will be there.
Then you go and you get a drink from the fridge.
And then in round three, take the best available receiver.
You're on your way.
So that's the thing, right?
So let's say you have a top four pick.
You really have to ask yourself how much you like A.J. Green and Keenan Allen.
Because those guys are falling to the third round.
So if you have the third pick, you start
with Ezekiel Elliott or Alvin Kamara,
Christian McCaffrey, whatever.
Probably not going to get Saquon at three, but
one of those guys. Second round
I think is a great spot for Travis Kelsey.
He might not be there.
That's Kittler.
Yeah.
Okay, I think we just did a PPR draft,
and I took Kelsey...
17th.
There.
17th?
Okay, fine.
So is Kittle or Ertz worth a pick in the second round,
or do you go receiver there
and take Kittle or Ertz in the third round?
I think you're risking it
by leaving Kittle or Ertz to be there in round three.
I think they have earned it at this point
to be top 24 tie-dots.
The only thing would be is if you're not inclined to take a tight end,
if they do go in the
first 24 by round three, the receivers
Adam's talking about are there for you, which is
also amazing value.
I know I'm not going to make a plan
beforehand, but there are
a lot of drafts where either Nick Chubb or Dalvin Cook
fall to the mid to late second round.
So one of those guys might be there.
One of the top six receivers might be there.
And then you have the early round three where you're maybe looking at Fournette,
which is great value too.
Where do you guys take T.Y. Hilton?
Same range, end of two, beginning of three.
Yep.
Third. I prefer third, but that's, two, beginning of three. Yep. Third.
I prefer third, but that's, you know, again, if you're passing on the tight ends, he's going to go in second round.
Okay.
And let's go to J.
J.M. from a beautiful city where a military tank was stolen almost 25 years ago.
San Diego.
Okay.
Dear
Todd, Dak, Alvin, and Saquon.
Football
players. The last four offensive... Rookies of the
year. Rookies of the year, that's right.
As a commissioner for a long-time
family and friends league, as well as many...
as well as my work league, going on
five years strong, I've been trying to keep the leagues
fun and fresh by changing at least one thing about the league every year.
I've had this idea for years now.
I've never heard any talk about it.
So as many of us can agree,
the actual draft is half the fun, right?
Well, to make things more interesting,
I had this idea for a mid-season keeper redraft league.
You play half the regular season,
and then all managers get to keep any three players,
and all other players become free agents.
Back to the pool, and last place gets the first pick.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on this twist to a league.
Best podcast out there.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you very much, Jay from San Diego.
So play half the season, keep three players, redraft in reverse order of the standings.
I love all these different things that you can do i think it's a
fun idea i don't think i'd particularly want to do it more than once i would try it yeah it's an
experimental league it's kind of like the ghost league too right in a way to go the vampire
vampire league so enough with ghost, Jamie.
Gosh, we're all about ghost today.
Yeah, I think it's fun.
I think it's cool.
I would do one league like that, sure.
Chow from the trunk of a 1969 Mercedes 280 SE.
Is that a reference that I don't get?
Yes.
What is it? From Theover oh leslie chow oh okay uh hey alan stew phil and doug who are they uh every year there's a player who gets drafted
late or not at all that becomes a high draft pick the following year george kiddo alvin camara
michael thomas david johnson odell be. Which late-round player or players this year have the talent
to be a high draft pick in 2020?
Also curious to know what Allen and Stu, I guess that's me and Dave,
think about Miami's best pizza by the University of Miami.
Have you ever had Miami's best pizza, Dave?
Hadn't once hated it.
I'm a big cheese guy.
Which are you two?
We're Allen and Stu, apparently.
We're Allen and Stu, so who does that leave us? Doug and Phil.
I forget.
Doug, I know, is the guy, the bachelor.
Heath would be Phil.
I'll be the one that hangs on the roof.
Alan is Zach Galifianakis, right?
Yes.
Stu is...
The dentist.
Ed Helms.
Okay, I'll be Stu.
So, yeah, I never had that pizza.
Big cheese all the way.
Which late-round players have the talent to be the next Kittle,
Kamara, Michael Thomas, et cetera?
I'll go first and say that if things break right for Devin Singletary,
he'll be somebody that we're drafting in the early rounds in 2020.
Yeah, I think you're going to see a lot of rookies probably in this conversation
just because they're not going to be drafted very high.
Darwin Thompson would be one for me.
How about Daryl Henderson?
He's going to go a little bit higher, I think.
But I think you're talking about guys that don't necessarily have jobs right now
and the receivers because the receivers are going to go late.
Like Paris Campbell and Mecole Hardman could be two guys
based on where they get drafted.
They're not going to be drafted until double-digit rounds for the most part.
He eats guy Hakeem Butler.
He could do that in Arizona.
Let me put a caveat on it and say veterans only.
So no rookies.
I would say Kittle was the guy last year.
All right, Cortland Sutton.
Yeah, Deshaun Hamilton is a good one too.
Yep.
Okay.
Kalen Balazs.
I think Deontay Foreman has a good chance.
We just don't.
I'm so leery.
We don't know if he has what he had before the injury.
Yeah, this is obviously a gamble of a pick.
But that would be one. Deontay Foreman for me,
Courtland Sutton.
And it's possible.
I'm going to draft some Bruce Anderson late,
but I think if we're saying veterans only,
you have to say that Ronald Jones is a possibility.
Could Edo Smith be a possibility?
He's not a late round guy.
He's mid.
Royce Freeman?
He could be that guy.
Yeah, sure.
Things turn south for Philip Lindsay.
All right, cool.
Thanks for the question.
Let's get some keeper and dynasty stuff now.
This is James in New York.
This is a dynasty question.
Hey, Sam, Mark, and Ken.
Ooh, I know those.
I think.
Those are Jets quarterbacks.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Can you talk about how high you would take Kyler Murray in a Dynasty rookie draft in a two-quarterback league?
First round.
I mean, he went 10th in this draft, which is a one-quarterback league.
I'm about to do a Dynasty draft for a Superflex league, which is essentially the same thing, and he's going to be a top five pick.
Yeah.
Reading the next sentence, it sounds like this guy has the fourth pick.
I don't think four is too early for Kyler if you need a quarterback.
All right.
Two quarterback league.
This one is from Kevin in Houston.
Dear Joe, Richard, Chad, and Sam.
Those also sound Jetsy to me.
I'm sure there were Jets with those names.
Who's the Richard?
Richard Todd.
Chad Pennington?
Right.
Joe Namath.
Sam Darnold.
Yeah.
Look at me.
You knew Richard Todd?
Yeah, I did.
Right?
Yeah, he's a football player.
Okay.
Maybe.
He was.
He was.
I took over a Dynasty team, and now I
have the second pick in a
rookie draft. The team has some holes.
I need running backs and wide receivers.
I have Kelsey at tight end. Tell me,
who are your top two picks?
It is a one-quarterback
PPR, four-point-per-passing touchdown
league. So basically, top two
in this rookie draft should be whom?
I'm going
to go with Jacobs and Montgomery.
I don't see a receiver that is worth
being put up that high.
You could argue Nikhil Harry, but I would agree.
The two running backs.
Here's a keeper question from Jim in
Philadelphia. I'm in a keeper league
one season. We keep a player we drafted outside
of the top four rounds. If the player we keep is projected as a round one to four pick in CBS mock drafts,
we give up a fourth round pick. If that pick is projected to go around five or later,
we give up that round pick. My two options are Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Jones. I've been set
on keeping Mahomes this whole time. If he loses Tyreek Hill, though,
would you still keep Patrick Mahomes over Aaron Jones?
I would keep Aaron Jones.
Me too.
Same.
Wait, you'd keep Aaron Jones either way,
or it's dependent on Tyreek Hill?
Yes, it's dependent on Tyreek Hill.
Right now, we're expecting Tyreek Hill to not play.
But I think the hard thing about that is,
I don't know when your deadline is,
but I don't anticipate we're going to get a definitive answer
in the next two months.
Okay, this is from Nick in Santa Monica.
Dear Roger, Ricky, Frank, and Carlos.
Jets.
This one I don't know.
These are 49ers running backs.
Yep.
Oh, yeah. Okay, I should have known that. So listen,ers running backs. Yep. Oh, yeah.
Okay, I should have known that.
So listen, later in the show, we have a greeting that I think is so funny.
Funny is not like laugh out loud funny, but it's like, oh, that's funny.
That I had to Google.
If anybody gets it, I will be extremely impressed.
Don't look ahead and don't Google.
I was hoping in a future episode a few fellows would do a deep dive into auction league drafting and strategy.
This year is especially interesting in considering the amount of talent available in the middle of the pack.
In what would traditionally be the third round, for example, guys like AJ Green and Keenan Allen will be generally cheaper than they would have been in previous years.
So I'm curious about your perspective on auction drafting and what each of you personally feel is the best strategy.
Yeah, I do think that the middle of the draft feels better this year.
I can remember last year at this time of year feeling we got to round four.
It was like, ugh, where are all the good players at?
But I also think those top four running backs you're going to see probably a bidding war and i do
like this is the only time when everybody has a chance to get them so i might be less likely to
get involved in that bidding war they'll go for right about a third of a budget. And maybe more.
Two guys want them.
Sure.
So you think you will pass on them? I think if you pass on
them, you've got far more capital
to spend on building still
a very strong team.
So yeah, I think I would
pass on them unless I can get them for
say my budget's $100, I can get them for between $25 and $30, and I feel like that's a good deal, then I would take them there.
Yeah, I can't see that happening.
I don't think so either. You never know.
You know how that might happen?
I would spend $35 on them out of $100.
What if they're the first name nominated, and it's that real early part of the auction where people just don't know what a guy should go for?
And you're kind of setting the market.
Yeah.
You might be able to land a Camara or a Zeke there for $30.
Yeah.
I will give you an example.
$260 budget, our auction league for baseball.
Mike Trout may have been the first one nominated.
I got him for like 51, I think.
And he usually goes for like 60.
And then Mookie Betts went, I think, for 52.
So, yeah, I could see that happening.
But I really want PPR.
Standard, you know, non-PPR, maybe I won't get as involved.
But in PPR, like, I really want one of those guys
because they're going to catch a ton of passes.
And like I said, I would be willing to spend $35 out of $100
on one of those top four running backs, Barkley, Zeke, Kamara, McCaffrey.
You're spending how much?
$35.
So would you rather spend $35 or get three of Marlon Mack, Mark Ingram,
and I don't know who else you like?
Montgomery.
14-team league, I would take the three other guys.
12 or shallower, I'd probably want one of those stud running backs.
Look, I cannot tell you that I would actually do that
if we were auctioning right now.
This is the first time I've really thought about it,
but that is sort of where I'm at right now.
Okay.
Auctions are more fun than drafts,
but to really nail it,
you've got to do some preparation beforehand.
I like using tiers,
sorting my players based on my expectations for them.
So the best running backs,
those top four guys,
throw Melvin Gordon in there too if you want.
They're in the first tier.
And then you group together running backs and receivers, et cetera,
by expectations.
And then you'll keep track of where everybody's going in the auction,
how much they're going for.
You'll have a good sense of what you should spend
from players with similar expectations.
I would say this, though.
If I did spend 35 on
one of those four running backs it would be difficult for me to get a top three tight end
and i am all about getting a top three tight end right those guys are going to go for more than 20
percent of your budget yeah those guys are i can't wait for our auctions to see what kelsey
kittle and urts end up going for.
That's going to be different than...
Because not even Gronk...
Did Gronk go for 20%?
Would you pay 20% for Gronk?
He was typically around $15.
Right.
So I wonder if this is going to be new territory for auction drafters with these tight ends.
Okay.
Next email is going to be a Dynasty email.
It is from... No name. Dave, next email is going to be a Dynasty email.
It is from, no name, Dave, name and city, please.
David from Montgomery, Alabama.
Hey, TJ, Jelani, Will, and Austin.
These might be Detroit Lions picks.
Those are Lions rookies.
Jelani, oh, I can't think of his last name.
He's a linebacker. Tavai. Tavai. I don't know how to pronounce it, honestly. He's Lions rookies. Jelani, oh, I can't think of his last name. He's a linebacker. Tavai.
Tavai.
I don't know how to pronounce it, honestly. He's a big dude.
I've been reading your fantasy outlooks for each of the players drafted
this past weekend, or two weekends ago, but I'm
confused. There are some players
going in rounds four and five that you like
more than players going in rounds two and three.
For example, Arizona took Andy
Isabella in round two and Akeem Butler in round four.
Both players will have the same quarterback and team around them.
Why is Akeem Butler a top 15 rookie draft fantasy pick
but Isabella is only a third round pick?
Shouldn't Isabella be the better player on paper
because he was drafted two rounds earlier?
I think this email was actually from Chris Towers
because he's been saying this to me for the last week and a half.
How much a team invests in a player does have impact
on maybe the early opportunity they get,
maybe how long the team is willing to stick with them.
But we don't start looking at players the moment they are drafted,
and we do form opinions on players before the draft.
And it's not uncommon for players that are drafted in the fourth round to be better than
players that are drafted in the second round. So if we, like Hakeem Butler is an excellent example.
He was my number one rookie before the draft. I dropped him down number five because he fell to
round four, but I just haven't dropped him any further than that. You didn't drop him because
he went to Arizona and Arizona
added all these other players.
You did it just because of where he went
in the draft. Yes. Yeah, there's a good chance
Butler doesn't start
because they like Isabella a lot.
And, you know, with
Fitzgerald and Kirk still there, you may not
see Hakeem Butler play very much as a rookie.
So Isabella could be the better guy in seasonal leagues.
But Butler, just based on what his profile is,
should be better long-term.
I definitely see the merit in this email
and your line of thinking.
I think for running backs,
where they get drafted matters,
but matters less than it does for wide receiver
because with running back,
it's so much about opportunity,
so much about the team around you,
more so, in my opinion, than it is with a wide receiver.
Agree? Disagree?
Agree, but I mean, it's still kind of the same thing.
The Redskins had another situation, too, where I think you look at Terry McLaurin and Kelvin Harmon, I wouldn't be surprised if Harmon's better.
Yeah, I've got Harmon quite a bit higher than McCoy. Most people do.
But to your point, Adam, yeah, I think running back draft capital
is certainly a little bit more important than receiver draft capital
because the 49ers taking Jalen Hurd,
I don't think they're going to play him at receiver very much,
or at least they're not going to play him specifically at receiver.
Also, with running back, there's such a playing time issue
in so many situations.
You might be sitting behind. The Patriots taking a running back, there's such a playing time issue in so many situations. You might be sitting behind.
The Patriots taking a running back in round three.
Dallas, for example, taking Weber after the fullback.
Clearly, Weber has a better chance to help their offensive production.
I guess that's a bad way to phrase it.
Has a better chance to be a featured player in their offense more so than... To be fantasy relevance.
Right.
No, I'm not even saying fantasy relevance, but just like from...
If Zika Lila gets hurt, they're not putting the fullback back there.
Right, right.
Okay, next question will be a keeper question from Glenn in Canada.
$200 Keeper League.
Keep forever at these values.
I need to pick one receiver.
Antonio Brown for $25.
Julio Jones for $27.
Is that a $200?
Christian Kirk for $1.
DJ Moore for $1.
Deshaun Hamilton for $2.
Geronimo Allison for $2.
This is a keep forever league.
You got Brown and Julio for $25 and $27, and then you got real cheap.
Christian Kirk, DJ Moore, Deshaun Hamilton, Geronimo Allison.
How many can you keep?
One.
One.
DJ Moore.
Sure, because I think you can get Julio Jones.
Oh, no.
It's a $200.
It's Julio for me.
It's Julio.
Yeah, Julio.
Yeah.
Okay.
Go with Julio.
And I'll read another keeper question here.
I need a name and city, please.
Let's go with Brian from Paris, France.
Why not Campbell from Paris, France?
Well, Brian's last name is Campbell.
He's our combat writer.
Yes.
And he's in Paris right now.
We have to keep 15 players.
No more, no less.
I only have room for one or two of these wide receivers.
Who should I keep?
Who are your top two here, guys?
Zay Jones, Taewon Taylor, Devontae Parker, David Moore,
Kenny Stills, or Demarius Thomas?
It's got to really hurt having to cut four of these guys.
Zay Jones, Taewon Taylor, Devontae Parker, David Moore, Kenny Stills, Demarius Thomas.
If the Dolphins can't quit Devontae Parker, should you?
My pick is Kenny Stills.
If I had to pick two, I might just take Parker along with Stills.
Zay Jones.
I would go with Stills. Zay. Zay Jones. I would go with Stills and David Moore.
I think Moore, just given what's happened to Seattle's receiving core,
I don't care what Pete Carroll says about DK Metcalf's routery.
I think Moore's going to end up playing a lot just based on how they used him last year.
And he could actually end up starting opposite Tyler Lockett.
Okay.
So here's an email from Brad.
This is the greeting that I want to see if you can get.
Hey, Whitman, Price, and Haddad.
Haddad.
Whitman, Price, and Haddad.
1980s Schwarzenegger movie.
Terminator?
No, these were...
No, I'm...
Oh, Running Man.
Yeah, these were the three winners of running man that were supposed to be like in hawaii or something but it turned out they were dead uh i thought this was a really
clever like very obscure reference 14 team half ppr keeper yeah that was funny right see
four point quarterback touchdown four point. Keith, next time he says that joke's going to be funny, make your chair move.
I was really excited and impressed with Sonny Michel's postseason,
but there are so many mouths to feed in the New England backfield.
Should I trade Sonny Michel for basically Josh Jacobs for 101 and 106 in the rookie draft?
Wow.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes, you should definitely do that.
All right, here's a... Richard Dawson
was the best part of Running Man, by the way.
He was awesome. I don't think I ever saw Running Man.
Highly recommend.
Yeah, it's good.
It's not like, you know, cinematic
masterpiece. I just spoiled the funniest
joke in the movie for you.
This is from Dave. What about the
time Ghost licked John Snow's face?
In our 14-team league, we have a
loser's bracket where the last
six teams
play off for the right to draft
their draft slot.
Bottom six teams get to play
off for the right to draft their draft slot.
A toilet bowl. If you win the loser's bracket, you get to play off for the right to draft their draft slot. A toilet bowl.
If you win the loser's bracket, you get to pick the slot where you draft.
I hate these.
In the last 10 years, the owner with the number one pick has never won.
So where would you, in 2019 in a 14-team league,
where would you guys pick if you had the first pick in the draft for the draft?
Similar question to what we
answered earlier, I guess.
I'm going to stick with fourth.
You said 14-team league?
Yeah, I think I'd want to go later.
The farthest you can go is where?
Four?
No, you can go wherever you want.
I think I'd go nine.
Nine is such a nice number.
I'd go five.
This is where I would i would put
melvin gordon in that group and i like four to five does make kind of a difference to me in um
in a 14 team league i guess it would really depend on if i thought i could get kelsey in round two
if i didn't then i guess it wouldn't matter thank you for the for the rocking of the chair
you're welcome uh okay and and Jamie doesn't care.
Jamie says draft anywhere.
Subject line from Jeff in Tennessee.
Subject line is Heath level humor.
And then the email says,
I think it's ironic and hilarious that you made a drinking game
out of Pete Prisco's initials when his initials are PP.
You made a drinking game out of his name when his initials are PP. Heath, can drinking game out of his name. When his initials are PP.
Heath, can I get the chair, please?
Thank you.
From Brian in Vancouver.
Which quarterbacks make the biggest jump in a four-point per passing touchdown league compared to a six-point?
Lamar.
Josh Allen.
Kyler Murray.
Yeah. Cam. lamar josh allen kyler murray yeah um cam like jump in terms of their value gets higher right because they're running more
i think we can handle them is it basically just the guys you expect to have rushing touchdowns
and or not a lot of passing touchdowns or both expect to have rushing touchdowns? Or not a lot of passing touchdowns? Or both?
Yes.
Rushing yards, rushing touchdowns.
Oh, Deshaun.
Deshaun Watson will run.
Well, the rushing yards... I heard he's the number one quarterback in four points for passing yards.
But seriously, the rushing yards, do they matter?
Because they count the same in either format.
No, because they count the same.
But they are a bigger percentage of the pie
when the passing touchdowns are a smaller percentage.
Okay.
But a lot of the guys who rush for a lot of yards
don't throw for a lot of yards.
It's true.
It's going to hurt Eli Manning a lot.
Don't draft him.
We have a few minutes left here.
But it hurts guys like Rivers, those type of quarterbacks.
Sure.
From Scott Warren, 12-man Dynasty League PPR trade scenario.
Would you rather have Christian McCaffrey in a PPR Dynasty League,
Christian McCaffrey, or Devante Adams and O.J. Howard?
McCaffrey.
Adams and Howard.
That's a good question.
It is.
Tom Brady says that when he starts an answer with that's a good question, it means he hates the question.
Really?
Yeah.
I like this question, so I put it in the notes.
Yeah.
So we got Devante Adams and O.J. Howard or Christian McCaffrey.
Dave and Jamie are split.
Heath, break the tie. Oh, I was just going to. My answer was going to be that's a good question.J. Howard or Christian McCaffrey? Dave and Jamie are split. Heath, break the tie.
Oh, my answer was going to be that's a good question.
Nope, you got it.
I am going to go with Adams and Howard.
Okay.
I would probably rather have than both of them a different duo.
I will tell you about them in a second.
I would rather have Nate Dogg and Warren G. Nate Dogg and Warren G. a different duo. I will tell you about them in a second.
I would rather have... Nate Dogg and Warren G.
Nate Dogg and Warren G.
Thank you, Heath.
Okay.
Dear Simba, Mufasa, Pumba, and Timon,
I joined a slow draft Dynasty Startup League
with an eight-hour window for each pick.
The league commish kicked me out
for taking advantage of the full eight hours for each pick. The league commish kicked me out for taking advantage of the full eight
hours for each pick. And
I told him I was committed
but that I planned on taking the full
window each time to do research
and savor the pick.
I communicated clearly with all the owners
during my pick window and made sure to talk smack
as well. During round eight, he decided
to kick me out for not picking immediately.
According to the rules, I didn't violate anything.
Am I in the wrong, or was the commission within his rights
for kicking me out of the league for taking the full
eight hours with every pick?
If I were the commission, you did that enough, I would change
your clock to eight minutes, but I would
not have kicked you out of the league.
Anyone else?
No, don't kick him out?
No, of course not. You are in the wrong,
and the commissioner is in the wrong
and i am glad i'm not in the league with either of you how long have we all been playing fantasy
football 20 plus years each yeah when's the last time you savored a pick before making the selection
where you just kick back close your eyes and i'm on the clock um last night i was on the clock. Last night, I was on the clock, I noticed, before I went to bed.
For 11 hours and 41 minutes.
And I just slept on it.
But did you see it?
Not that I was counting.
Did you dream about it?
It was 11 hours and 41 minutes and 21 seconds.
Did you relish the opportunity to make a selection in something so huge as a fantasy football dynasty?
I went upstairs, slid into bed, just kind of thought about it for a while.
Kind of a noise did your bed make when you said it.
So far in the first round of our rookie-only draft,
there have been one, two, three, three owners who drafted in under a minute.
Heath was one of them.
Heath so far has the fastest time of making a pick of 26 seconds
to take a Keem Butler.
And the longest.
35 seconds was the second.
I was third at 44 seconds.
In round two, we had a 49-second pick
and an 11-hour, 41-minute,
and 21-second pick
by the commissioner, no less.
Yeah, it was a rough night last night.
Oh, I'm sorry, man.
So, okay, last... You know, it's funny, because I was like, should I text him? I'm sorry, man. So, okay, last email.
You know, it's funny because I was like, should I text him?
I'm like, no, he's got a lot going on.
Then I'm like, he's tweeting.
So I'm like, yeah, sure.
And I forgot.
All right, last one.
Here we go.
Regulated.
Oh, this is a Game of Thrones spoiler, and this is our last email.
So if you don't want to hear anything about Season 8 or anything at all,
turn off the podcast and thank you for listening.
This is from Josh.
Little out of left field here,
but I have an issue in a league I am the commissioner of.
I put together an office pool for Game of Thrones,
mainly focusing on character deaths.
However, there was a fill in the blank part,
one of which the question worth two points was,
who kills the Night King?
I put no one, and not a single person put Arya.
Do I award myself
points given that Arya is no one?
No.
She's someone.
She's a character in the show.
At the end of season 6
when she
leaves the house of black and white
he says, is the girl no one?
And she says, no I'm Arya Stark and I'm going home.
Yeah, well, chilling, chilling live.
Good stuff.
Oh, yeah, but now it's chilling live for you.
At the time, you hated it.
Loved that last episode.
People really didn't like the last episode.
You mean the Starbucks cup?
Episode four.
Oh, yeah, that was funny.
But they really didn't like it.
Pete Prisco drinks things that they did on purpose because they can't advertise.
Oh, interesting.
I just drank.
Was it a Starbucks cup or just a cup?
I mean, I think if you look at it,
it looks very much like a Starbucks cup. But it also like, I mean, if you just look at it from afar, like no one would notice
it until you saw it. I didn't notice it.
I think it's just one of the
cups of ale. I'm very excited.
I cannot wait for Sunday.
Mother's Day, by the way. All right.
Thanks, everybody.
We will talk to you on Thursday with another episode.
So appreciative of all your emails and your tweets.
FantasyFootball at CBSi.com.
For Dave and Jamie, I'm Adam.
And...
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