Fantasy Football Today - 06/21: WR/WR in PPR; Where is the Dropoff in Talent? (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 21, 2018

Comparing the upside and downside of RBs (1:45) Leonard Fournette, Alvin Kamara and Saquon Barkley and WRs (9:41) Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill and Doug Baldwin. People seem to forget that we've actually seen Evans' downside twice in the last three seasons ... Are we missing the boat on Will Fuller (14:50)? Is there a reason to be concerned about Julio Jones' relationship with the Falcons (19:33)? ... We discuss our recent PPR draft (25:35) as only two teams went WR/WR with their first two picks. And where is the dropoff in talent in Fantasy drafts (35:35)? Also, let's put Melvin Gordon under a microscope (38:00) ... Your voicemails (41:50) at 954-689-3199 and emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Eve. Well, we've been doing a lot of drafts lately. In fact, you can see our latest non-PPR and PPR drafts on the website, cbssports.com slash fantasy. And Dave and I have both noticed there is a big time drop off in talent at certain points in the draft. For me, it's a little earlier. For Dave, it's in the middle rounds and we will talk about that. Dave Richard, thank you for joining me. I'm Adam Azer, by the way, everybody. Dave, how you doing, my friend? Good afternoon, Adam. All right.

We are now halfway through the month of June, and summer has officially begun. Oh, that's right. Which means that we are about a month away from the start of training camp, baby. Yeah. Are you excited? I can't wait. I am so bored. For what? For training camp? I need action. You know what you need? Baseball't wait. I am so bored. For what? For training camp? I need action. You know what you need?

Baseball. Baseball is fun. I need action. All right. Well, I don't get excited for football until maybe the preseason. Once the preseason starts, I get excited. I'm always excited. I don't get really pumped up until the preseason begins.

But training camp is whatever. But I am excited for three episodes a week, which is coming, if not next week, then in July. But we'll be at three, then we'll be at four, then we'll be at five. And please tell your friends and help us grow. We would much, much appreciate it. Tell everybody about the Fantasy Football Today podcast. All right, continuing our series of upside and downside tweets

of these three running backs. who has the most upside? And whenever you're talking about Alvin Kamara, you really have to specify the scoring. So, Dave, of course I went with half PPR. Of course you did. Of these three running backs, who has the most upside in half PPR? Leonard Fournette, Alvin Kamara, or Saquon Barkley? And when we do this exercise, we rule out injuries completely, correct? Yes.

So get that out of your mind. This is tough. I think a lot of people will have the knee-jerk reaction of saying Alvin Kamara, which, I mean, I kind of can't blame it for it. In a half-point PPR, this guy's going to catch a lot of passes. But I think Saquon Barkley's going to catch a lot of passes. And I wouldn't be surprised if Leonard Fournette improves on the receptions that he had last year.

But I think about the touchdowns, and I think hands down, no one's going to get more than Leonard Fournette. Wow. And I think about the yardage. And I think Fournette could potentially come in third in this category, but still come through with good numbers. 1,300 yards total. Not out of the question for him.

I think his schedule's great. I think his defense is going to hand him a ton of games where he can grind on the clock. He won't share like Alvin Kamara will, and he's not a rookie like Saquon Barkley is. So for those reasons, I'm going to say Leonard Fournette has the most upside of the three. 10% of the Twitter respondents said Fournette.

54% said Kamara. Again, half PPR, most upside. And 36% said Barkley. I am a little torn on this. I see everything you're saying. Who has the most upside? I still would probably go with Kamara because of the Ingram injury and his potential to run away with the job with the first four games and just be so good that they could not possibly justify never giving him more

than 12 carries per game, which by the way, Alvin Kamara did not have more than 12 carries in any regular season game last year. If he comes out and is a stud weeks one through four before Ingram gets back, that will not be the case going forward, I would guess anyway. So I probably also would have voted Kamara. I think I would have put Fournette two and Barkley three because of the touchdowns, Dave. Fournette had 1,300 yards last year in 13 games. So 100 yards per game, that's pretty total yards. And also he was on pace for 44 catches, which is no small feat.

So I think he could probably match that total in 14, 15 games. I don't want to put Fournette down for 16 because I could see him getting banged up and missing a game during the season. Here's the sticking point I have on Kamara. This is in general. He averaged 6.1 yards per rush and 10.2 yards per catch. Yeah. Do you really think he can do that again?

Nope. Okay. Which means that for him to match the 1,500 yards and 13 touchdowns he had last year, he's going to need more touches. Now, I guess you're saying the upside is if he is a rock star the first four weeks of the season, the Saints have no choice but to keep him out on the field, and Mark Ingram becomes an eight-carry-a-week guy.

I think that's in the realm of possibility, but I also think the Saints are aware that they can't overwork Kamara, and I don't know if they want to. I think maybe our next first-round pick that we put under a microscope will be Alvin Kamara. I have a lot to say about him. Could probably take up the whole show. He did finish first, though, with the most upside, according to the Twitter respondents. 54% 36% for Barkley, 10% for Fournette.

Of these three running backs, who has the most downside in half PPR? Fournette, Kamara, or Barkley? We have a tie at the top, Dave. Ooh. Yeah. Well, I don't think Kamara would be involved in that. So I would have guessed that people would have said Fournette has the most downside. For whatever reason, I think people believe that Leonard Fournette's going to flop.

Well, you know, it is kind of tough because I think the biggest risk for Fournette is injury. And you said, you know, we take injury out of this, and we kind of do. It's almost like we take injury out of it like if we were asking Carson Wentz to Sean Watson, Aaron Rodgers or something. I'm just going to assume that they're healthy week one. Maybe that's a better way of saying it. Healthy week one. Fournette. Well, then that changes the healthy week one. Maybe that's a better way of saying it, healthy week one. Fournette – Well, then that changes the whole equation.

Yeah, it does a little bit. Like Fournette is a guy that I do worry about because he's so physical. He's got an injury history. He missed two games last year. He missed three games total. He was suspended one, right, and he missed two for injury? I believe that's correct. And his production on a per carry basis was so much better before the injury,

by the way, with Leonard Fournette. So I would have also said Fournette has the most downside, but that's not the only reason. What about you? You would have gone with who for most downside? I would say Saquon has the most downside because he's going to cost everybody a first round pick. All three of these guys are first round picks, but he's the one we haven't seen. We aren't sure just how improved this Giants offensive line is. I was talking with a Giants fan this week, Costas, who said that the offensive line isn't nearly as good as the Giants think it is,

and he thinks Saquon could really struggle this year. Yeah, I agree with that. I have a hard time believing that, though. No, I agree with that. Okay. He's the one with the most downside because you're drafting him as a guy who, if he doesn't get you 1,500 total and eight or nine touchdowns, is a disappointment. You know what? I think you're right. I think he does have the most downside. My concern for Fournette is just bad offense. And he's not going to be a PPR standout. 45 catches is something that we're sort of hoping

for. He was on pace for 44 last year. But if I could just find the stat, over the last four years, here's the worst offense for a top five running back last four years. So in 2014, Matt Forte was a top five running back. He was on the 23rd worst offense. 2015, I'll get back to this in a second, but this is eye-opening. Todd Gurley was on the 29th worst offense. In 2016, DeMarco Murray was on the 14th worst, 14th worst? No, 14th best. I said it wrong. I'm sorry. Forte, 23rd best. Gurley, 29th best. Murray in 2016, 14th best. Gordon, 13th best. 2015 was that awful year for running backs,

where Danny Woodhead was the number two or three running back in PPR. So for the most part, it's hard to be a top five running back on a bad offense unless you get a ton of catches like Matt Forte did four years ago. So that's my big concern with Fournette is that the Jaguars – I don't buy the Jaguars' offense at all. I really don't. I think they take a step back, and I think he could suffer from that. Do you buy their defense?

Yeah, of course. Okay. If you buy their defense and you can buy Jacksonville going with a keep it simple stupid approach and they improve their offensive line what's not to buy into with the offense I don't think they're gonna you know presto change oh now we're a passing team and look out here comes Keelan Cole and Marquise Lee and Blake Bortles is going to the Pro Bowl. Yay. I don't think that's going to happen.

I think they're going to have the exact same approach. Yeah, but they won't pass the ball as well, which will affect everybody. It's like the Lions. But it won't affect Fournette as much as it will affect everybody else. It's not exactly like the Lions, but it's just like bad offense is not good for running backs. It is when you're a good running back getting all the work. Jordan Howard really suffered. Todd Gurley is a perfect example two years ago.

He couldn't overcome a bad offense with no passing game. You gotta... Alright, let's go to the wide receivers. Okay. Of these three wide receivers, who has the most upside? Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, Doug Baldwin. Mike Evans, Tyreek Hill, Doug Baldwin.

Who has the most upside? This one was easier for me. It's Mike Evans. Yeah. It was easy for the Twitter folk. 66% of the vote went to Evans. 28% to Tyreek Hill. 6% said Doug Baldwin has the most upside.

Somebody, one of our listeners, tweeted at Doug Baldwin with the results of the poll, so I didn't appreciate that. Now he's mad at us. Did he actually respond? No, he didn't. I'll show those guys. That's what he's probably saying. Hope so.

He's a great dude, by the way. I'm almost never nervous to interview a player. But when it came to Doug Baldwin, I kind of know what his reputation is with the media in Seattle. And so at the Pro Bowl, I wanted to talk to him about Jimmy Graham. I was doing a story on Jimmy Graham. And he was as cool as ever. Nice. He was a real good guy.

I didn't mention anything about fantasy football or anything like that because, you know, who knows what he'd do. But we had a good talk, and he's obviously a very thoughtful person, very aware of social issues, and a hell of a football player. Yeah, he sure is. But he doesn't have huge upside. That said, he is a top 12 wide receiver three straight years. This is Doug Baldwin we're talking about. So your answer would be Mike Evans.

Let's see, and that's what everybody agrees. Let's see who has the most downside according to the people who responded. Evans, Tyreek Hill, or Doug Baldwin. What would you say, Dave? Who has the most downside, Evans, Hill, or Baldwin? I'm going to say who I believe the pollsters said, and that's Tyreek Hill. Yeah, they did. And I didn't look.

I didn't peek ahead to see but I think they they recognize that Tyreek Hill is such a big play threat who's got a changing situation around him he's got a new quarterback Sammy Watkins has joined Kansas City there are there are barbs that we can throw at Tyreek Hill that make him less of an appealing fantasy receiver than he could be after what he did in his second season. And yet Mike Evans came in last in most downside, which I find funny because he's had two seasons in the last three that were worse than what Tyreek Hill just had. Tyreek Hill had 75 catches, 1,183 yards, and seven touchdowns on only 105 targets. So actually, if you want to make a case that Hill has the most upside,

it's that he didn't get that many targets last year and still finished as a top 10 wide receiver, sixth in non-PPR, ninth in PPR. Evans was 23rd in non-PPR, 17th in PPR, and that's similar to what he did in 2015 when he was outside the top 20. He was top 24, but he's outside the top 20. So I find it funny that Evans finished last in who has the most downside, which is the best place to be in that poll. And yet he has had – we have seen that downside two of the last three years.

It's kind of funny. But I think people buy into him being an alpha male, number one wide receiver with 150-plus target potential. And that's why they're going to crawl right back to Mike Evans in his fifth season. Five years in a row. How do you rank those three? I like them all. I think they're all top 12 receivers.

I have Evans ahead of them all. And I actually have them back to back to back. Evans at 9, Tyreek Hill at 10, Doug Baldwin at 11. Okay. Well, Dave, we have a lot to get to today. We have an audio, a fun audio show. We have a lot of voicemails. People have been leaving us voicemails, 954-689-3199, 954-689-3199.

We'll play some of them. We'll read your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. We will put Melvin Gordon under the microscope. And, Dave, this is for you. That's heavy on my mind., this is for you. Oh, it's the wrong part of the song. Sorry. Well, we can get to the right part of the song.

Oh, wait. This is the wrong song. It switched songs on me. This is supposed to be just the two of us from Bill Withers. Not that stupid song. No. Lovely Day because it's just you and me. knew that song lovely day lovely day okay i apologize i was supposed to play i apologize and i had it queued up too to play just the two of us at the point i pulled an azer i just sang

on the podcast and i pulled an azer by making a horrible technical move on the podcast. So which song was it supposed to be? Just the two of us? Me and Dave today. We're building castles, Dave. Just the two of us. All right. Well, anyway, more importantly, from the audio realm, we got your voicemail. So let's get to our voicemail of the day. And again, it is 954-689-3199.

We've got a wide receiver voicemail. What's up, Acer? Andrew from New York here in the car out in Long Island. Just listening to the podcast, the wide receiver Dynasty Rankings podcast. It was all right. Just wanted to let you know there are a couple guys that you guys are really

overlooking. And I'm talking about Redraft here. You can pick them in Dynasty as well. Will Fuller will be a third-round pick next year. Will Fuller. Robbie Anderson will be a fourth-round pick. Robbie A. And do not sleep on Chris Hogan this year,

especially the first four games. Thank you. That will be all. Okay, so we had an okay episode according to Andrew, and he thinks Will Fuller is going to be a third-round pick next year, and Robbie A. Robbie Anderson is going to be a fourth-round pick and don't sleep on Chris Hogan. And I will

tell Andrew from Long Island in his car, first of all, get some coffee. You sound a little sleepy. Secondly, I draft Will Fuller. I feel like almost every mock draft we have, I'm always getting Will Fuller. But I don't think he's going to be a third-round pick next year. But do you think people are sleeping on those guys? I think they all have a role as a number three receiver in fantasy drafts this season. And I think all of them carry the upside that can push them into being top 20 guys next year.

Hogan is in the best situation of the three. He's not a burner like Fuller and Robbie Anderson are. But he's in an enviable spot because new england is going to be short on wide receivers with julian edelman down the first four games and he can line up anywhere and he's proven to be a reliable target for tom brady when he's actually been on the field that's kind of been part of the problem with hogan is one way or another he's never really put up monster numbers over the course of a full season and i think that that's something that is going to weigh on it's going to weigh on people but at the same time if

you're getting him in round seven ish on draft day then it's is it really that bad is it that big of a risk i would say no and i think you're going to get will fuller in about that same range if you get him in round eight i think that's way better but i i i wrestle with will fuller because i love his situation too but i don't know if i like him as anything more than uh you know he's either going to catch a long touchdown or he's not. That's kind of how I feel about Fuller. Even though that hasn't been him, he's had plenty of games where he scores a red zone touchdown. I like Fuller. I don't know that we know who he is yet. Maybe, because I'm laying that label on him of being a one-play trick pony. And he might be.

He has been, but to be fair, he hasn't. He's also had a couple of games where he's come through with short area touchdowns. Well, you look at Will Fuller, his first four games of his career in 2016, which was a dreadful year for the Texans offense. He had 81 or more yards in three of his first four games. He had two 100-yard games. Then he had one catch for four yards in week five, and then he was hurting, missed week six, and was not the same after the injury.

I believe it was an injury that he sustained about halfway through his rookie season. He's missed eight games in two years, so that's held him back. Sure. In four games with Deshaun Watson, 13 catches, which is crazy low, 279 yards and seven touchdowns. How about this? In a non-PPR league, in four games with Watson, Will Fuller averaged 17 points per game. It was insane.

In six games without him, he averaged two points per game. Because the quarterback wasn't as good as finding him or buying time in the pocket, finding him, and then being accurate with the deep ball, which is a gift that Deshaun Watson has. Ten touchdowns in Will Fuller's career. One, two, three, four, five have been inside of 20 yards. Another one has been exactly 20 yards. And the rest have been 39 yards or longer.

Yeah. And one of those is a punt return. So only nine receiving. All right. Quickly, Dave, who's your favorite, Fuller, Anderson, or Hogan? I'm drafting Hogan first of the trio, but again, it's with the caveat that we're in round seven. And then soon after that, Anderson and Fuller are really right behind him. The only name that I have in between those three is Corey Davis, who's been up and down in my rankings.

If he's healthy for training camp, he's probably going to go back up ahead of Hogan. So let's do news and notes pretty quickly here because this part of the show took longer than I expected. The Falcons are reportedly uneasy about Julio Jones' friendship with Terrell Owens. Some negative reports about the relationship between the Falcons and Julio Jones? Getting nervous at all? No. I don't understand what they'd be nervous about. Do they think that

T.O. is telling them to be selfish, be a jerk, don't pay attention to anybody on the team, make it all about you, and then don't show up for training camp? I guess they're just worried about T.O. being a negative influence somehow, some way, as if Julio Jones is feeble-minded enough to be influenced by T.O. They're probably just hanging out and talking football and going over a couple

of details while drinking nice cold water. Who your kids are friends with? What's that? Aren't you concerned about who your kids are friends with? What's that? Aren't you concerned about who your kids are friends with? Yeah, but my kids are 13 and 10. Well, okay. They're not young adults and professional athletes. But if you combine their ages, they're almost...

Atlanta is worried about Julio Jones showing up for training camp. That's what it is. They don't want him to hold out, and fantasy owners shouldn't want him to hold out either. We got reports from Bleacher Reports' Marcus Mosher. Sorry if I pronounced that incorrectly. Alan Hearns is Dallas' clear-cut number one wide receiver,

and Blake Jarwin has worked out as their number one tight end. You care about that? Yeah, I trust Marcus. I like his stuff a lot. And this shouldn't surprise anybody. Who else was going to be their number one receiver in minicamp? Yeah, well, the rookie, Gallup. No.

Yeah. It's very rare when a rookie is on the ones in minicamp. Tom Brady hinted at retiring at age 45. He will be 41 years old in August. So if you knew he would guarantee that Brady was going to play until he's 45, where would you draft him in a dynasty league? Round eight. Is that the same as you're drafting him now?

No. Just not knowing? No. Where are you drafting him? Right now, I've taken him as soon as round five. No, I mean in a dynasty league. Like this report, does it change anything for you? No.

You know, there was a report out there saying that if the Patriots traded Gronkowski, Brady was going to retire. The Patriots called it hogwash. Have you ever washed a hog, Adam? I have never washed a hog, have you? Every time I take a shower. Terrell Pryor, now with the Jets, says that he tore a ligament in his ankle in week one. It affected him all season.

He said he couldn't focus on his game because of the ankle injury. Quite frankly, Dave, I could buy it. I really can. Nobody's excited about Terrell Pryor, but I could buy this excuse. He looked so good in training camp that you couldn't help but fall for him and then when the season started he just week one was kind of okay and then after that it was just a massive dumpster fire and listen you gotta you gotta be able to play through your injuries in the NFL,

and if you're thinking about it the whole time, you're not going to perform, which makes me wonder what's going to happen the next time that Terrell Pryor gets hurt. If we get a report in week three that he's got a nagging hamstring, you're going to cut him off your team in five seconds. You'll probably even curse yourself for drafting him in the first place. This is not a late-round flyer? He's a late-round flyer, but there's a bunch of other late-round flyers that I'd rather have ahead of him.

Looking at MFL 10 ADP and where Terrell Pryor's going, he's going after John Brown of Baltimore, John Ross of Cincinnati, Taylor Gabriel of Chicago, James Washington of Pittsburgh, Geronimo Allison. Yeah, but that's the crew

that he's rolling with. It's late round pick your poison type of dudes. He's got a chance to be a number one wide receiver. I think. For his Jets. I think Robbie is that guy. So we're going to talk about PPO. Yeah, I mean,

I could see that. He's got a chance. We could talk about PPO. We saw it last year. Yeah, but there was no Terrell Pryor. There was no Quincy Inunua. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know that Terrell Pryor and Quincy Inunua were the guys to come into New York and change the direction of the receiving corps.

Are you kidding that you don't think that Terrell Pryor could be better than Robbie Anderson? I don't know if they're necessarily the same. If there's one concern, it's that Anunua's return and Terrell Pryor's prominence could take targets away from Robbie. He had 114 last season, and he only caught about 55% of them. It's not great, but it's kind of what you get with a deep ball receiver. All right, so we are going to talk about that ppr draft and some of our thoughts from it where is the talent drop off but we got to tell you about roku a great way to watch tv you're streaming right to your tv

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We did. And what did you think of it? What were your takeaways? I don't know if I have any takeaways off the top of my head, Adam, other than I think the early rounds are going to be fun. I don't think they're going to be stressful, dramatic. I think everybody's going to have a pretty easy time making their first three selections. Ooh.

All right. I'll go ahead and disagree because this is where I see the drop-off in talent. After Gronkowski, so we're talking like mid to late round two. After Gronkowski, after Keenan Allen, Devontae Adams, that group of wide receivers off the board. And really you're looking at Tyreek Hill. And there was a guy, I had the third overall pick, and I took Ezekiel Elliott.

And I'm sitting there, and I'm like, there's somebody I want so badly with the 22nd overall pick in this PPR draft. Please let him fall to me. Please let him fall to me. Christian McCaffrey went one pick before me. I was so mad. I was doing a fantasy baseball podcast at the time, and I screamed, damn it, on the air, because I wanted Christian McCaffrey so badly. But McCaffrey went, Dalvin Cook went kind of late.

He went 19th. But you get Fournette, Michael Thomas, AJ Green, Devante Adams, Mike Evans, Dalvin Cook, Rob Gronkowski, then McCaffrey goes. And then I'm sitting there in the second pick, and I didn't have fun making this pick. I took almost the entire time to decide between Doug Baldwin, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey, and T.Y. Hilton. And I went with Baldwin, and I hated myself for it, and I still do. Why? Because, you know, I look at the season two years ago when he had 93 catches or something like that. He had more than 90 catches. I don't see him as a 90-catch guy.

I see him more like a 75-catch guy like he was in both 2015 and 2017. So he's not a PPR standout. He had 14 touchdowns in one of his last three seasons. That was when Russell Wilson went absolutely berserk the last eight games of the year, and Doug Baldwin did so as well. I look at Baldwin as a 75-catch guy with eight or nine touchdowns. That is not exciting. That is fine. So I didn't take upside there.

I hated it. I didn't think it was a bad pick, but I hated it. I like Christian McCaffrey so much more than Doug Baldwin and Tyreek Hill right now that I think there's a big drop-off in talent at that point in the draft, late second round. I disagree with the term drop-off in talent because I think these guys that we're talking about, the Baldwins, the Hills, the Kelsies, and the Hiltons,

are talented guys that can help your fantasy team. You're right. I shouldn't say talent. Drop-off in projected fantasy production. Okay. So if you're projecting, let's call it 75-1009 for Doug Baldwin, which of the other players do you think can top that? Do you think T.Y. Hilton can get you over 1,009? Yeah, and if we're feeling good about Andrew Luck,

then T.Y. Hilton is a second-round pick. Then I'd take him over Baldwin. I'd take him over Tyreek Hill. Okay. What about Tyreek Hill versus Doug Baldwin? He got you almost 1,200 yards and seven touchdowns last year. So if I could do it again, I'd probably take Tyreek Hill over Baldwin. Which is what I would have done.

Yeah. Yeah. The other thing that I would have suggested is to punt on receiver and take Kelsey or Ertz with that late second round pick get get a stud tight end I'm I think I'm going to preach this during July and August is that getting one of those three tight ends just saves you the hassle of dealing with tight ends oh sure and it gives you a guy that produces like a stud receiver at the tight end position and all you have to do is just find stud receiver at the tight end position. And all you have to do is just find another receiver in round six or seven to make up for it when everyone else is scrambling and hoping that Kyle Rudolph falls in their lap.

Right, and I think the injury to Hunter Henry makes this tight end strategy even more appealing. So I could have taken Kelsey. If I had taken Zeke in round one and Kelsey in round two, I definitely would have taken a wide receiver in round three. And I probably would have come back and taken Hilton in round three if he had been there, but he did not make it. So that's the other thing. So if I go running back Travis Kelsey, I say, yeah,

I'd love to take a wide receiver in round three, but the best ones we're looking at were Adam Thielen, Josh Gordon, Larry Fitzgerald, Amari Cooper. Early round three seems like a little bit of a reach there, which is another reason why I took Doug Baldwin. I should have taken Tyreek Hill, but I took Baldwin. Because there's a drop-off at wide receiver, and punting wide receiver in a PPR league is scary. Unless you've got, I'd say, two running backs that catch a lot of passes. I don't know that I want to do that, Dave. I don't know that I want to punt wide receiver with my first three picks.

I don't think that that's a good idea either because then you're putting a lot of pressure on your team to come through. First of all, the players that you take with those first three picks absolutely positively must come through for your squad. And that's really the case no matter what you take. But then you're left with some pretty not great scraps in round four. Right. I'm trying to come up with nicer words for it.

But, I mean, I'll run down the receivers that were left toward the back end of round four. Alshon Jeffrey, Tate, Jarvis Landry. Yeah, okay, okay. I mean, I'll name those. That's actually not bad. In a PPR, I don't think it's that bad, especially when it comes to Tate.

I think Tate's about as reliable as it gets for a receiver that will come through in the receptions department for your team. Alshon is almost the exact opposite of that. He needs touchdowns. Jarvis Landry has been a guy that sucks up receptions like a Hoover, but I

don't know if it's going to be that way in Cleveland. Like a Hoover. I recommend everybody go to the website. The results are posted. I just want to look at two teams, and then we'll move on, put a first-round pick under the microscope and hear from our listeners with voicemails and emails. I want to look at two teams that went wide receiver, wide receiver. And they were – I think Will Brinson was one of them.

So he went with Odell Beckham in the first round, and then he took Devontae Adams in the second round. This is PPR. So Beckham and Adams, Derek Henry, Darius Geis, and then he took Brandon Cooks, and then he took Evan Ingram. So, you know, three wide receivers and a tight end with his first six picks. He's got Burkhead, Tariq Cohen, and C.J. Anderson. Are the running backs good enough with Beckham and Devontae Adams,

with Evan Ingram at tight end, with Brandon Cooks as his flex? And I'll say it again. Beckham, Adams, Cooks, and ingram in his starting lineup are the running backs good enough to justify this strategy i think oh let me read them derrick henry darius geis burkhead cohen cj anderson i think it works because you realize just how good the wide receivers should be. If you get one of those two running backs to finish top 15 and the other one's top 25, and you're meshing that with two top 10 wide receivers, maybe top five, I don't have a problem with it.

I think there's questions about Evan Ingram and Odell Beckham on the same fantasy team. That's a good point. And I don't know. He could have gone with a Sonny Michel or what other running backs were available when he took Evan Ingram. Michel was there. Kerryon Johnson was there. I wouldn't have taken him.

Marlon Mack, Chris Thompson, Marshawn Lynch, Jamal Williams. I'm a fan of Williams. I would have taken him or Michelle in round six instead of Ingram. Maybe Ingram lasts another round. You can get him in round seven. Did you mention who his quarterback was? No. Matt Ryan, right?

Took Matt Ryan very late in the day. He probably waited a little bit too long to get a quarterback. Well, maybe. I also think Matt Ryan has a chance to the day. Yeah, he probably waited a little bit too long to get a quarterback. Well, maybe. But I also think Matt Ryan has a chance to bounce back big this year. Yeah. Let's hope that Julio Jones comes to training camp, doesn't pull a T.O., and doesn't pull an injury either. Okay.

So the other team that was Kaiser's team, and he had the 11th pick, he went Keenan Allen, Michael Thomas, Jordan Howard, Kenyon Drake. Keenan Allen, Michael Thomas, Jordan Howard, Kenyon Drake. So a similar start to Will, who went Beckham, Adams, Howard, and Geis. Instead of Beckham and Adams at receiver, it's Allen and Thomas at receiver. Instead of Derek Henry and Geis. Derek Henry and Geis is what he did. It's Howard and Thomas at receiver instead of Derek Henry and Geis. Derek Henry and Geis is what he did. It's Howard and Drake.

So I think – I mean I like those first four picks. I think it's a good way to start a draft. I feel like he did a little bit better than Brinson did. And the nitpick might be that Kenyon Drake will catch more passes than Derek Henry or Darius Geis. Yeah, that's true. You've got to keep that in mind with PPR. With Chris Thompson there in Washington, yep. Right.

Now Howard's going to lose catches to Tariq Cohen. He's going to lose opportunities across the board because the Bears' passing game is going to be much, much better. Any improvement that they made would have made it better than what they had in 2017. But now it's going to be it should be sparkling i'm expecting and this isn't a bears fan talking i gave them up i i really buy into what they're building in chicago okay we have a question about that a little bit later so i told you where i think the drop off the talent is say about 20 second overall yeah you think it's really early. Drop off in fantasy production. There are several drops, but that's one that really stands out to me,

which is why I'm not sure I want a top three pick. But I'm not sure I don't want one. Where's the drop off in talent for you? I would say the drop off happens right around 55th overall, which is round five. So I think that you start to see signs of reliable, safe players that are no doubt starters for your fantasy team. They start to slide out in round four, and maybe you start to panic a little bit as you see them go one by one off the draft board. And then you get to round five and the names that are left are guys like brandon cooks who i think some people are excited about

but i'm i've really turned a corner i don't think i'm gonna draft brandon cooks anymore jimmy graham um a bunch of quarterbacks a bunch of running backs that don't really have a lot of upside unless injuries help them out along the way, guys like Tevin Coleman, Marlon Mack, Lamar Miller, guys that are like, eh, okay. I can't get excited about them. Yeah, I know. I feel you. And I want to be – like I'm going to be excited with most of my first four picks.

But when I get to round five'm i'm kind of hoping somebody slips or i need to really get behind players who are going and maybe they've got an adp of round six and round six and a half that i'll take early because i believe in them and i'm excited to take them or there's a door number three adam and this is it when you don't like what's left at running back when wide receiver grosses you out when tight end is pathetic you turn to quarterback and there will be somebody there quarterback a stud that you can say all right safe player drop him in my lineup aaron rogers tom brady russell wilson deshaun watson carson wentz choose your order any way you want that's something that'll probably make you feel a lot better about the pick and

you say okay i'm tabling the decision on riskier players till round six dave let's put a first round pick under the microscope and let's go to melvin gordon melvin was the number five running back in both formats last year and he is entering his fourth season and i'll tell you what man we've been doing these first round picks under the microscope and most of them feel pretty good feel pretty safe to me i do feel like there is some bus potential here for melvin gordon dave i still like him quite a bit. Don't get me wrong. But, you know, at this point in the year,

you're really analyzing everybody, good, bad. There's some bad. I don't think it's completely insignificant that he has averaged 3.9 yards per carry two years in a row and never better than that. All right, Heath. No, but you know what? Like, look at the top ten running backs. There's usually two in the top 10 in fantasy.

At the end of the year, when you look at the guys who finish top 10, there are usually two that average less than four yards per carry, and he's usually one of them. He's always one of them. Each of the last two seasons, always, all two years. It's not nothing to me. I love his role. I love the lack of competition. I love the catches. 58 catches last year. Wants to get more involved in the passing game. I love the offense he's in.

I love that Melvin Gordon has scored 18 rushing touchdowns in the last two seasons. And 14 of them have been from three yards out or closer. But, you know, he hasn't run the ball that well i mean 3.9 yards per carry and i know he's better than that but why isn't it translating in the stats i don't know but it is it is translating in the stats no in the yards per carry like i know he's not a guy who should be averaging less than four yards per carry that's bad that's legitimately bad okay you said that he has 14 touchdowns inside of three yards over the last two seasons. Yeah.

Okay. So that's 14 carries right there that were below 3.9. But that's out of like 500 carries. And there's probably another dozen to two dozen that are short yardage where he's only asked to get one or two yards. It doesn't affect the other running backs like it affects him. I'm just going to tell you what I like about him, and it's what I've liked about him since he came in the league. I think he's the type of running back that can consistently get 20 touches per game.

I think he needs that volume in order to be grand. I think he's going to keep getting that volume until he proves that he's not a great running back to his coaching staff. And they love him. They overlook the 3.9 yards per carry because of his contributions everywhere else.

Everything else he does, they love. Yeah. Me too. I love the catch rate. Hey, I took them over Kareem Hunt in a draft. Jamie was like, what? Yeah, I don't know if I like that. But I think they're going to be close.

They're going to be drafted with five, six picks of each other in every single draft. And what happens, by the way, when the Chargers offensive line gets better and all of a sudden Melvin Gordon's averaging 4.1 yards per carry? Was it so bad last year? It wasn't great. They were missing some pieces.

Yeah, I hope so. I hope so. It's just I can't completely ignore it. I just – they don't really – I mean, they drafted a running back in the seventh round. They obviously like him. Austin Eckler was good in a short roll, so maybe he gets a little bit more work. But, yeah, I think Gordon is pretty safe, and he's going to be on a really good offense. Love his schedule to begin the year.

There's only one game that stands out as a messy one until Week 9. Okay. All right, good stuff. Let's hear from the people here. Get some more voicemails at 954-689-3199. Hey, Anthony, Chris, Javi, and John. How are you guys doing? This is Ryan in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

I'm a huge Bears fan, and it seems like all the national media right now kind of picks the Bears to be this year's surprise team. I wanted to ask you guys, outside of Jordan Howard, based on their current average draft position, which Bears player are you most excited to draft if you had to pick one? Well, first of all, not only is he a big Bears fan, but he most excited draft? If you had to pick one. Well, first of all, not only is he a big Bears fan, but he's a big Cubs fan too. You can tell by the way that he... Oh, that's who that was.

...asks his voicemails. Yep. You know how we talked about players that I would be excited about and that I would reach for a little bit in round five? We just got done talking about this in the PPR draft section. One of the receivers that I'm starting to really fall for is Allen Robinson. Really?

Because I think he's going to blow away the rest of his teammates and targets this year. I think he's going to be a big red zone threat. I don't think he'll get double covered down there. I don't think he's going to have a lot of four-catch, 105-yard games or anything like that. I think he's going to be a volume receiver who's going to get eight, nine targets per game and come through in a solid way for Chicago, score seven, eight touchdowns this year.

So that's probably the one that I'm most excited about. That's a big projection right there. Yeah, I'm a little aggressive on Allen Robinson. I'm aggressive on Trubisky too. I'm not ready to draft Trubisky, but I think the system in Chicago that's being installed will agree with him because a lot of it's going to be – more than half of it's going to be stuff that he's already familiar with,

and then everything that's left over is going to be like West Coast concepts, which any quarterback can do. And he's got better protection up front he's got just a much smarter and more creative coaching staff and his receivers are just they went from worse to i don't know if they're the best in their division but they're're close. They're pretty good. They've got a nice unit. Allen Robinson, Dave took him 42nd overall. That's the fourth round in our 12-team league, and that was in the PPR league that we did on Tuesday, that draft we did on Tuesday. Dave took Robinson ahead of Juju Smith-Schuster, Demarius Thomas, Jarvis Landry, Golden Tate, Alshon Jeffrey. That was a run of receivers, six in a row. Robinson, Juju,

Demarius Thomas, Jarvis Landry, Golden Tate, Alshon Jeffrey. Of course, the other guy that people are excited about is Trey Burton. He went 78th overall in this draft. All right, another voicemail, please. This is Rick outside of Portland, Oregon. I am all in on Deshaun Watson. When he was on my team last year, he was scoring a boatload of points. He is one of the main reasons why I think I got into the playoffs.

Why should I not draft Deshaun Watson extremely high? I'm not talking first round, but I'm talking third or fourth round, something like that. What do you think? I agree with him to an extent. I think that Deshaun Watson is probably the only quarterback that I would break my rule for.

And you know what my rule is, right? No, you can't get wet after midnight? Yes. But there's another rule. No feeding after midnight and you can't get wet or you become a gremlin or something, right? You must have carbs after 9 p.m. No. That's a bad rule.

My quarterback – look at me. My quarterback rule is you have to feel like you're stealing the guy from the rest of your league. Like if you're ready to take Aaron Rodgers and you look in the draft and you think to yourself, man, this value is too good to yourself man this value i'm gonna call you out because that's not your quarterback role your quarterback role was just if i don't like anything else in other positions that i'm going to take a quarterback that's something you can do and typically the running the quarterback rather that's left when you when you're ready to make that move is going to be good yeah you're going to have that steel feeling well deshaun watson was the third quarterback taken in our PPR draft on Tuesday, and the quarterbacks went really late.

Rodgers 52nd overall, Tom Brady 58th, Deshaun Watson 67th overall, and then Russell Wilson one pick after Watson. Look, there's obviously a lot to like about Watson, but you just have to worry about the sample size. You have to worry about the guy coming back from injury. I, I like him though. He's pretty damn good.

I mean, do you think that for a second that Houston's going to change their identity and say, all right, Deshaun, you got hurt last year. We just want you to run a Jacksonville type of offense. Very basic,

very simple. Don't go crazy. Don't do anything ridiculous like throw the ball farther than 10 yards down the field. Do you really think they're going to do it? They're not going to do that. There isn't a chance on God's green earth. And so that means that Deshaun Watson is going to be put in a position to keep

doing what he's been doing. He is pretty much the only quarterback that i will break the stealing rule for because i do like him i'm not going to reach for him in round three i think there are too many other good players at running back receiver and tight end that i just i can't pass up just understand there's no there's almost no way that sean watson can be as good as he was last year he was almost like peyton manning with the broncos Broncos good. How are defenses going to slow him down? It's just there's no way. There's no way.

I mean, he was averaging like 30-something points per game, not including the first game of the year when he came in as a replacement. He threw for 402 yards and four touchdowns at Seattle. I don't care what defense. He threw for five touchdowns against Kansas City, four touchdowns against Tennessee. Nobody does that. Nobody does that. It will not be done again.

He'll have some games like that again. Okay, but he didn't have some games. Those are half his games because he had six starts. He played seven games and had 19 touchdowns, but he had 18 touchdowns and six starts. So are you projecting him for 48 touchdowns? There's no way he's going to throw 48 passing touchdowns. If I'm projecting him for 48 touchdowns, then I'm changing my quarterback rule. Passing touchdowns.

I'm making two sets of rules. That's not even with the rushing. We are two rushing touchdowns. Yeah, he'll have a couple of rushing touchdowns on top of that. No, I don't think he's going to throw 48 touchdowns. But I'm enamored with him. I think he's going to throw 48 touchdowns but i've i'm i'm enamored with him i think he can be very good i don't love the first two games on his docket they're both on the road at new england and at tennessee guarantee a tennessee's going to copy whatever new england

did to him whatever it doesn't just because they're going to try to copy it doesn't mean they're going to be successful and after that he's taking on Giants, Colts, Cowboys, Bills. Those are his next four games. He's going to ass-blode. All right. He's going to average like 28 fantasy points per game. Next voicemail, rather.

All right. We got a Dolphins question here. Yo, guys. Scott from the birthplace of Jason Witten, Northeast Tennessee. I had a question, Dynasty Keeper aspect. I was wondering the outlook for Mike Jasicki based on the rumor that he may be playing more of a hybrid receiver type role. Does that kind of boost his ring?

I know rookie tight ends never pan out, but with him being in that role, where does that place him? And then also, maybe, which rookie quarterback maybe has the best outlook, dynasty appeal? Thanks, guys. Let's answer that second one quickly. Who's got the best outlook and Dynasty among the rookie quarterbacks? Baker Mayfield, one. Lamar Jackson, two. And then who did I have? Three. I think I had Rosen, third. And now what do you think about Dolphins tight end Mike Kosicki and the role he might play?

I think he's going to be like a receiver at tight end. I don't see him as much of a blocker. I think he's a mismatch type of player. And apparently he improved as the offseason program went on for the Dolphins. So by the time we get to training camp and your dynasty rookie only drafts, he could end up being a second round pick. And he could end up being a late round pick

in seasonal leagues if he shows out during the preseason. And again, this is a team, the Dolphins, that have a pretty decent schedule to begin the year. So Gasicki could certainly be good for streaming folk. Cool. All right, back to the voicemails.

954-689-3199. No name on this one. Dave, who is this from? Well, I think when you hear the voice, you will know that it's Roberto. Ah, I see. Hey, guys. Huge fan of the podcast.

Yes, of course. So thanks to Gronkowski today, not the man, the horse, I was able to win the number two overall pick in a stop-up dynasty draft. Can you do me a favor and convince me that I'm not crazy to convince taking Saquon Barkley in the full-point PPR league? Any advice? Which way to go? I can almost guarantee the first overall pick is going to be Le'Veon Bell. If you've got any advice from there, I would truly appreciate it.

Thanks, guys. Roberto has the number two pick in a dynasty league, and he knows it's going to be Bell number one. He wants to take Barkley over Gurley. Oh, let's get Roberto in my fantasy league. I want to play against this guy. I get the whole idea that you want to draft players that you love, the guys that you want to root for, the guys that you believe in.

But passing up not just Gurley but Ezekiel Elliott, David Johnson, Alvin Kamara, maybe you like him too, all for Saquon Barkley. I mean, you've got to either have a hell of a crystal ball or the biggest Penn State jersey collection in the world to make a move like that. Here's what I would suggest to Roberto. He should trade down in his draft. Make sure it's cool with his commissioner. Find the guy who's picking fifth.

Let's just say fifth and offer to swap slots. The guy who's picking fifth is going's just say fifth and offer to swap slots. The guy who's picking fifth is going to absolutely 100% say yes because he's going to get to move into number two, guaranteeing himself one of Zeke, Gurley, and if Le'Veon Bell doesn't go first for whatever reason,

Le'Veon could be there too. And he could still get Saquon at five. Gurley should definitely go first. That's a good idea. Trade down. But if I have the first pick in a dynasty league, I'm 100% taking Todd

Gurley. I think you have to. If the guy's going to take Bell... There's no compelling evidence not to. Alright, a couple more voicemails and then we'll finish with emails. Hey, fellas. It's Josh from Davis, California. I'm in a 12-team half PPR

Dynasty League and I'm looking to trade Devontae Freeman considering I have DJ and Melvin Gordon as my starting running backs. Given it's a Dynasty League, what wide receivers do you think would be in that tier of running back? I cut him off there,

but the Devontae Freeman tier in a dynasty league, what wide receivers would you be looking at? I think almost any wide receiver that would go in round three to maybe late round two would be in play. So a lot of the guys that we've talked about already, Hill, Baldwin, T.Y. Hilton, I think they'd all be in play. I don't know if I would be excited to trade Freeman straight up for one of those guys. I would almost want something with it.

Now that's coming from a running back lover. That's me. And I always tend to overvalue running backs. But at the same time, I do recognize that now might be a pretty good time to jump off the Devontae Freeman bandwagon in dynasty leagues. Yeah. He has the feel of delivering one more good year, and then after that, question marks. Right. I'm not sure you're getting Tyreek Hill for him.

I wouldn't give up Tyreek Hill for Devontae Freeman in a dynasty league. Because he's young, and you figure that Tyreek Hill could have several more great seasons. He's in his third year, and he's attached to a second-year quarterback. If Pat Mahomes is good, Tyreek Hill could be a fantasy mainstay going forward. Would you do it for Doug Baldwin? I would give up. I feel like those two are the same. I would give up Baldwin.

Well, Baldwin's going into his, what, seventh year? He probably has two or three more years left. I think Baldwin Freeman is a pretty even swap. And I don't think you would do it for Hilton. Well, I feel better about Hilton and Dynasty than I do in seasonal. I trust that eventually Andrew Luck will be healthy. And I think Hilton could have five good years left. He's still pretty young.

Amari Cooper? I don't know about it. What fantasy? Right. good years left he's still pretty young amari cooper yeah i don't know about it what fantasy right so like once you get to the point of cooper alan robinson josh gordon demarius thomas well definitely not josh gordon josh gordon's too risky in dynasty with what about this idea what about trying to go after a receiver better than tyree kill by pairing a receiver with Devontae Freeman. Or what about one of the rookies? Like is Devontae Freeman for DJ Moore a bad trade? I think I'd rather have Freeman and then go back to the well at receiver next year. He's going to be a tough one to trade in Dynasty because I think a lot of people

are going to feel the way I do, which is one more good year. It doesn't feel like he's got two or three. By the way, we've said this before. Tevin Coleman's a free agent. One, that could make Freeman better in Dynasty, but that could make Tevin Coleman a steal in Keeper or Dynasty leagues if he goes somewhere else.

Unless he doesn't. Unless he doesn't, but he should. They shouldn't keep him. They can't pay two running backs. All right, David. Let's read some emails. Fantasyfootball at CBSi.com. Corey from a town west of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. West of Harrisburg?

Yeah. Los Angeles, California. Hey, Andy, Temp, Daryl, and Roy. The Office. The fact that you don't know that means that you need to watch more Office. I was listening to the recent podcast that you discussed drafting and using the teammate combo. In the same vein, what are your thoughts on using running backs from the same backfield in the same lineup in a similar fashion to the friendship strategy like starting

Devontae Freeman and Tevin Coleman, C.J. Anderson and Christian McCaffrey or Sonny Michel and Rex Burkhead? I wouldn't want to do that. But at the same time, if it's just my lineup shakes out the way that it does and my best players happen to include two running backs from the same team. I'm not opposed to starting them. I wouldn't want to do it on a regular basis. I wouldn't want to go into my draft and say, okay, my starting running back is going to be Devontae Freeman,

and my flex every week, rain or shine, is going to be Tevin Coleman. You're really limiting your upside. Right. If this were men on football, I'd say, hated it. Or in living color. I hope people get that joke. DJ in a western Illinois town along the Mississippi.

East St. Louis. Dear Brian, Dick, Bill, and Mike. Those are bears. Oh, okay. As a Chiefs fan and a Kareem Hunt owner, would you be worried that Hunt's off-field Off-the-field transgressions this offseason Could result in some form of punishment

And he was accused of punching someone But I'm going to say no Not as of now Yeah, it's a little skimpy on the details I'm going to say not a concern right now Alright, Bobby is from the bottom of the map. Antarctica? The bottom of the map, sure.

Dear Les, Vic, Howard, Archie, Archie, Eddie, and Troy. Those feel like Ohio State Heisman Trophy winners maybe? I don't know. Do they have that many? 12-team PPR league. If I take them, what's so funny? Did I get that right, you think? Maybe. 12-team PPR League. If I take

Alvin Kamara at pick seven and both Keenan Allen and Christian McCaffrey are available to me in the second round, who would you take and why? You get Kamara and then you can choose between Allen or McCaffrey. I would pick Allen. Feel a little bit safer with him. Like having the option of not being wedged into a certain position by the time I get into round three.

From Curtis from Princeton, Minnesota. Half point PPR keeper. You lose the round where you pick them. Kamara in the 11th or Kareem Hunt in the 4th? Oh, come on. Kamara. I think it's got to be Kamara. Bruce in Central PA. Oh, that's PA.

Central Pennsylvania. LOL. Just kidding. I had a question about your June 14th podcast. Okay, I don't remember what that one is. Oh, yeah, yeah. In talking about who would replace Mark Ingram in New Orleans, Jamie said Terrence West, Scott, and Williams. Why not Trey Edmonds?

Why was he not mentioned? Do you think Trey Edmonds, Dave, has a chance of replacing Ingram for the first four weeks? I think they've got a bunch of guys that aren't significantly better than the other. Boston Scott is a little different Than West, Edmonds And Jonathan Williams So I would be surprised If he's the guy that ends up

Replacing Mark Ingram as a 10 carry guy But I Think it's a training camp battle Between those four I don't know if Edmonds really has The best chance for it. I feel like he's a bottom of the roster

type of guy for the Saints. Big weekend plans? Yeah, my parents are coming to town. Oh, fun. So I'll be hanging out with them. I think I'm going to get my windows tinted on my car. Why would you get your windows tinted? Well, it keeps the harmful

sun UV rays out and keeps your car cooler and saves on gas. What are you trying to hide from the rest of the world, Adam? What's going on in your vehicle that we need to know about? A lot of rocking out these days. I've been playing the drums in the car, the air drums, very, very well. To the usual stuff, Billy Joel, Brian Adams? No, what have I been playing?

I don't really remember. I was belting some U2 the other day. But you know what, Dave? We'll just leave it to the imagination. What could Adam be doing in the car that he doesn't want other people to see? And with that weird thought, we're going off to the weekend. See you later, everybody. We'll talk to you on Monday on Fantasy Football Today.

Na, na, na, na, na, na, na. It's alright. I've got Le'Veon. It's alright. Not George Le'Veon. It's alright. I've got Le'Veon Bell.