Fantasy Football Today - 06/24: Heath's Busts; Drafting From the 8th Spot (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 24, 2019

Some RB stats (2:15) to put the 2018 RB season in perspective. How much does the quality of the offense matter when evaluating a RB? And we've got an email about Baker Mayfield's upside (6:24) ... Heath's busts beginning with Drew Brees (14:50). Don't make him one of the first 8 QBs off the board. We also discuss two RBs who could be great but are hardly involved in the passing game (21:00) and three WRs (28:50) who have been elite WRs recently but face uncertainty this season ... Jamey tells us about two recent PPR drafts in which he has the 8th overall pick (41:00). We compare his two squads and wonder if selecting Travis Kelce and Zach Ertz in Rounds 2 and 3 is a good strategy ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Monday, June 24th, the first of hopefully three episodes this week.

Certainly two, hopefully three. Welcome to Fantasy Football Today. I'm Adam Azer. Jamie Isenberg is always drafting, always be drafting. How many drafts are you doing right now, Jamie? One. But how many have you been doing? And one's a lot right now, I'd say.

I did one last week and one that is a slow draft that's going on right now. All right. Maybe oversold a little bit. Both from the eighth spot in a PPR league. Right. We're going to talk about that. Different ways to start. I don't like the eighth spot.

Not a big fan. I am doing one of the weirdest drafts I've ever been a part of right now. Why? Why so weird? It's Fantasy Cares Eliminator. so weird it's a fantasy cares eliminator and it's uh an eliminator league to raise money for uh scott fish's fantasy cares and it's 17 teams and the scoring is different than anything i'd ever played in and a team is the lowest scoring teams eliminated each week that's really cool it's really cool it's maddening the scoring system and the 17 team deal.

But what's the scoring system? Um, like it's different. It's like totally different. You're getting points for receptions and first downs and they're changing based on the position that you play. And it's also best ball. And, um, yeah, I And, yeah, I have a, like, this is how weird this league is.

My team currently is Lamar Jackson, Marcus Mariota, Ezekiel Elliott, Kenyon Drake, Tyler Boyd, Christian Kirk, and Evan Ingram. I don't have any idea if it's good or bad. Sounds good for a 17-team league, I'll tell you that. All right, so today we're going to do some of Heath's busts. We're going to go over some stats, read some emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com, update you on our Facebook page, which is awesome. Here are some stats to know for the show.

So this is basically, here's what happened. I knew who I was going to talk about with Heath's bust. One of them is going to be Marlon Mack. And I just kind of feel like if you are going to get a lot of work in a great offense, you're sort of bust-proof. But last year, there were three running backs on top 10 offenses who got 200 carries and finished outside the top 12 at the position. In fact, there were only five running backs on top 10 offenses that

got 200 carries last year, and only two of them finished in the top 12. So not a very good rate there. And that brings us to our next stat, which is that last year, Saquon Barkley and Christian McCaffrey were basically tied as the number one running back in PPR. They were the first running backs to be the number one PPR running back on an offense that ranked lower than seventh in scoring since Adrian Peterson in 2012. So last year was a bit of a wacky year. The correlation between great offenses and great fantasy running backs didn't hold as true as it had in years past.

What do you think about that? Anything? Well, I think it's case specific. Who are you referring to? What do you mean, who am I referring to? Which players? Like, okay, so who didn't make it? Who are the guys that didn't finish?

Sonny Michel had 200 carries and finished outside the top 20. This is PPR. Both, actually. Chris Carson was top 15 but did not make the top 12. Jordan Howard was 20th. Sonny Michel was 25th and PPR, 33rd in PPR. So who do you think had a better year?

Forget about how they finished. Who would you say had a better year? Chris Carson or Tariq Cohen? Who feels like they had a better year. Forget about how they finished. Who would you say had a better year? Chris Carson or Tariq Cohen? Who feels like they had a better year? Carson. But yeah, he finished behind Cohen in PPR. But so 2016, there were

actually 11 offenses that finished top 10 because there was a tie. It's a tie at 10th. Of those 11 offenses, we had 9 running backs who had 200 carries. All of them were top 12 running backs. I think part of it is that... I wasn't done. The teams that are top 10, I don't care.

The top 10 offenses are less likely to have one feature back. Well, that was maybe the case last year, but it wasn't the two years before that. In 2016, all nine running backs who were on top 10 offenses and got 200 carries were top 12 running backs. In 2017, five out of seven who were on top 10 offenses and got 200 carries were top 10 running backs. Last year, only two out of five. So it was just a different year. It was a different year. Interesting. And that's the thing about Marlon Mack.

You know, he's going to argue that he's a bust in PPR because he doesn't catch the ball. I was going to say, how can you get 200 carries on a top 12 offense, on a top 10 offense, rather, and it's probably going to be closer to top five, and be a bust. But last year, hey, Marlon Mack had 195 carries, and he was only 19th in non-PPR, 21st in PPR. So I know there's a lot of numbers I gave you there, but I hope that's interesting to people.

It wasn't interesting to Heath. Heath, where are you going? Are you going on vacation? Yeah, yeah, I'm going to Orlando tomorrow morning. Disney? No, no, no. I've never been to Disney since I moved down here, and I probably won't ever. No, no. I've never been to Disney since I moved down here, and I probably won't ever.

Neither has Jamie. We'll go to SeaWorld. Some of the group. What world are you going to see? Some of the group will go to Universal. That's good. Go do some nature stuff. See some breweries.

What do you think? You think that Disney is such a madhouse you shouldn't go and Universal is just this calm, funny experience? Oh, I'm not going to Universal either. Okay. We're members of SeaWorld, and in my opinion, from the research I've done, I have the best roller coasters. And they have other things to do besides ride roller coasters, and so I like going to SeaWorld. Jamie's quite the Disney aficionado. If you ever need Disney tips, you ask Jamie.

I know I've done to SeaWorld. Jamie's quite the Disney aficionado. If you ever need Disney tips, you ask Jamie. I know I've done that several times. Email of the day at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com is from BG. Love the show. I'm wondering, what do you think about Baker Mayfield's potential this year with the incredible duo of Jarvis Juice Landry and OBJ? We saw them both go over 1,000 yards at LSU. So what is Baker's ADP, and when would you take him, and what is his potential?

So three sort of different questions there. But, yeah. I think you're going to see Baker kind of, if you're all in on Baker Mayfield, you're going to take him probably higher than he should go. Like, you know, I probably say this too much, but I don't want to give away too much of our draft from our upcoming magazine, but I will in this case, uh, Baker was the second quarterback off the board after Patrick Mahomes. So no, I'm sorry. The third quarterback

off the board, he was behind my homes and behind Watson. Um, I still think he's going to settle in at the fifth quarterback. Cause I just think it's too hard to look at those four guys, Mahomes, Luck, Rogers, Watson, whatever order you want to put two, three, and four because I think Mahomes is clearly going to be one. It's hard to say that somebody's going to be drafted ahead of Baker there

barring some ridiculous preseason performance. Cam may be the one if he's 100% healthy. I don't think anybody, I know Dave hasn't ranked this way and this isn't a shot at his rankings, but I don't think anybody's going to take Matt Ryan over Baker because Ryan, I think, is someone that you still sort of settle for. Russell Wilson, I think you settle for. Roethlisberger, I don't think anybody's going to take him over. But I think just Baker's going to kind of slide into that fifth guy. And I'll say again, if your league takes quarterbacks early, he'll probably go, what would you say, Heath?

Third, fourth round? If you see a lot of quarterbacks come off the board? Yeah. Fifth round maybe at the latest? Yeah, I think so. And if your league kind of waits on quarterbacks, it'll probably be that 7-8 range. Well, I'll look at fantasyfootballcalculator.com.

And the ADP for Baker Mayfield, he is 62nd overall. That's the fifth round, sixth round. That's the very beginning of the sixth round, and it's hard for me to see. So Watson goes before him, Rodgers, Luck, Mahomes. So he's five. I mean, as far as what his potential is, it's not too far off what Mahomes did last year. I mean, if everything clicked and went perfectly, he could just go absolutely bananas.

I'm getting a little bit nervous. You're saying 5,050? No, almost. He has as much upside as anyone not named Mahomes. And I think you could just see a monster season. But I'm a little nervous. There's a lot of personalities there. Including his.

Including his. Including his. I'm also a little worried about the line. I'm more worried about them running the ball a lot. They took some hits there. Yeah. I like him fifth, but I don't like him second. Agreed.

I think, again, it's just, you know, if you're so in on Mayfield, you're going to – it's like any player. We'll tell you. If you're so gung-ho on taking somebody, you take them. I do feel like, you know, and we should probably spend some time at some point before the drafts start to get going. Like the guys that everybody seems to like that probably have the most bus potential, and he's probably the quarterback of that group. That's a fun little list.

By the way, if you are curious about our projections process, how does Heath, in particular, and our new staff member, Ben Gretsch, go about doing their projections next week, right, Heath? Next week? Next week? Next week. Wow, July's really sneaking up on us. Next week is projections week.

They're basically going to do projections on the air, and I'm going to be there to sort of question them, pick it apart a little bit. But, you know, we did the top 150 week, sleepers, breakouts, busts. We're going to do some projections. We haven't done it. Here's a team. Here's what we're thinking. Here's, you know, amount of carries, catches, whatnot.

So that's next week. All right. Let's move on. Just a few quick news and notes. Sonny Michel is progressing quickly from arthroscopic knee surgery, according to Mike Giardi of NFL Network. And Michel is on Heath's bus list, so we will talk about him. Kansas City believes Tyreek Hill could be suspended as soon as next month.

I believe there's a possibility we're going to have something to talk about with Tyreek Hill could be suspended as soon as next month. I believe there's a possibility we're going to have something to talk about with Tyreek Hill on the show today. Today? I think it's possible. Okay. Not necessarily news about the suspension, but I think we may have some other news to react to. I don't know what you're... Alright. I guess I'll be

surprised. Tariq Cohen told SiriusXM that he thinks his role will be the same as last year's. He doesn't see it expanding, right? Right. It's hard to expect it to expand. My waistline expands.

Fatball season. Oh yeah, it's coming. Faster than furious. Now is the time where you have to lose the weight, Jamie. I'm trying, trust me. I'm not like Heath. I saw Heath running down the street. I was taking my kids to play baseball. And I see Heath.

We live probably, what, three miles apart? Yeah. Within five miles of each other. And so I'm making a turn onto a major intersection. And there's Heath, all his glorious hair flapping in the wind running around sweating. Sweating like crazy. Running at 4 p.m. is a bad idea. It was like a month ago, right?

Probably so May. And I honk at him and my kids are like, who are you honking at? What is that? I mean, I have a seven-year-old and four-year-old. And I said,

oh, that's Heath. I work with Heath. And they thought I i said pete so they're like oh pete frisco drink do they really no oh okay that's funny uh okay so we don't have that many news items do we have anything else yes matthew stafford played through broken bones in his back last season i think i mentioned that at the very end of our most recent show so we'll give him a little bit of a pass. He was obviously playing hurt.

Amari Cooper said he's going to go for 2,000 receiving yards. Adam Azer said he isn't. So there's that. I told you Dak was going to be awesome. Yeah, so I want to try something this week. I want to try something maybe as a bonus episode. But I really want to do a call-in show. So I'm going to try to make it happen. It's going to be me and Jamie.

I think it's going to have to be all through Skype. Basically, I'd have to line you guys up. Whoever wants to be on the show, we obviously won't be able to get to that many. Get your Skype name. You're going to have to be around at a certain time. I'll have to Skype you. Why don't we just give them your cell phone number?

It wouldn't work. That's not a funny one, and it wouldn't work for this show. If we gave out your cell phone number, how many calls do you think you would get a week? I'll tell you, a lot. I'm going to try to do a call-in show. I think it's going to be really cool. I want to hear from you people

because we have our radio show during the fall, Ion Fantasy Football, on CBS Sports Radio, and it's awesome. We get phone calls for two hours. I'd like to try to do something like that on this podcast. But join our Facebook group. We can have a little discussion. I posted a topic on Friday, I think. I said, hey, we're going to talk about Heat's bus next week.

Two of them are Adam Thielen and Sonny Michel. What do you think about that? And we had a nice little discussion. People weighed in. I'm still working out how it's going to work. I know people want to do their own posts. I think that probably will happen. I'm new to this, so just give me some time. But please join Fantasy Football today. I'm new to moderating a group. So a couple things. Give me some time to figure out a few things. Give me some time to figure it out. Go to Fantasy Football

today on Facebook and join the group. I have to approve you, but my goal was to get up to 1,000, and we're at 1,800 right now. That is 1,000 by today. We're at 1,800. Now I want to get to 5,000. 1,800 members or 1,800 notifications I've got in the last three days on the post that you tagged me in? Both. Okay.

We'll see. It'll be fun. We'll have some chats there and whatnot. Last thing about Facebook is please don't friend request me because I'm not going to accept it. Deal. I'm sorry. Deal.

Yeah, so I had a bad experience with a listener Facebook friending me, and I said yes, and it was really, really foolish of me. All right, some of Heath's busts. Here we go. There's an article up on the website on cbssports.com slash fantasy slash football. But Drew Brees. Drew Brees was the number seven quarterback?

No, number eight quarterback in fantasy last year. He played only 15 games. He was on pace to be sixth in four-point and fifth in six-point for passing touchdown leagues last year if he had played that 16th game and he he's he's a bust let me see drew breeze where he's going uh 74th overall and that would be qb7 so you have him as a bust yeah and like we've had the russell wilson discussion before as well and it's there are similar similarities between the two arguments.

Breeze has always been an efficient quarterback. I don't know if people realize how little he threw last year, 489 attempts. And yes, it was just 15 games, but that's his lowest number of pass attempts, even on a per game basis since he arrived in new Orleans. And it's kind of part of the game plan they went down to 536 in 2017 the defense is young and improving and getting better so how was he so good in fantasy well there's two things one we talk about with wilson touchdown rate he had a 6.5 touchdown rate last year 5.3 for his career and like 5.5 in new or. So it's not like he's really,

he's only been over 6.5 once in his career. The touchdown rate is going to come down. And then the other thing that I just don't think anybody could even argue with, he had four rushing touchdowns and he had five in 2017, but I just don't buy it. He had two the year before that. I would expect he's going to lose probably 12 to 18 points there on rushing

touchdowns. Yeah. He's a, he's a bus for me 12 to 18 points there on rushing touchdowns. He's a bust for me too. I think you look at also, you go back to the year before when it was 23 touchdowns. Remember how bad he was? And he was saved by his yards. First time in New Orleans under 5,000 yards passing as well. Under 4,000 yards passing, excuse me. So he's clearly a different guy.

And can he score 30 touchdowns again? Sure. He did it last year. He's done it almost on a consistent basis throughout his career. But the attempts coming down is alarming. Now, the pro Drew Brees fantasy player will tell you, well, they got Jared Cook. And yes, Jared Cook is a huge addition.

I think losing Max Unger is as big a deficit as the addition of Jared Cook. What about losing Mark Ingram? I don't think that's as big a deal because Latavius Murray at this point is basically what Mark Ingram was last year. He's not as talented, obviously. But Ingram with the suspension, coming back, taking some time. He wasn't the same guy he was the year before. Clearly, it's not to say that Ingram and Murray are comparable this year, but I think you just look at where Latavius Murray is at this point in his career.

I don't think that's a to me. That's a wash. But losing Unger breeze because of his size. He is one of the best quarterbacks. Maybe you can argue one of the best in history at climbing the pocket. This is a nerdy football thing to talk about. But when the pressure collapse around you, quarterbacks, the thing they hate the most is pressure up the middle. When they got Max Unger, that was such a huge addition. It really offset the loss of Jimmy

Graham because it just gave Breeze that comfort of he could step up, make this throws and not have anybody coming at his legs or pushing the pocket in front of him. We'll see if that's going to be the case. And so, I think, again, the addition of Jared Cook

is huge to the receiving core because they haven't had a tight end like this since Jimmy Graham was 2015. But, we'll, and drink at him,

Pete Prisco was in New Orleans. He said, Traquan Smith looked awesome. Yeah. They're getting Ted Ginn back healthy. So you have Smith a year older, Ginn back healthy, Cook, huge addition, and Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara arguably two of the best at what they do.

So there's a lot to like about the Saints' offense, but that doesn't mean you have to take Drew Brees as a top five or even top ten quarterback. I think there are just some guys that might be a little bit better than this year. Plus he's 40. I mean, you know, not everybody's going to be what Brees and Brady have done for the last couple of years. Ultra quarterbacks that still

produce at a high level, at some point, they're going to hit the wall. And this could happen for Brees this year. Well, I think Drew Brees, it's two years in a row, if he had played that 16th game at the same pace, two years in a row where he would have been around 530 pass attempts. And that's just not a lot. But you know he is going to be very efficient but i guess what's more important to you the pass attempts or the fact that they have a top offense in the nfl every single year you know i mean

do doesn't don't points matter more than pass attempts because one way or another like they're going to score points they've been a top four offense three years in a row. I think points matter more than pass attempts. But with 50 more pass attempts and one extra game, he was the number 11 quarterback the year before on a very good offense. But that's because he had 23 touchdown passes, which we were like, that's ridiculous. He's a sleeper because that rate is super low.

But where do you think he settles? 28? Given the attempts and kind of where he is? With one or two rushing touchdowns? Sounds fair. 30-ish. I think he's still a number one guy. The biggest thing I have with Brees is drafting him as the seventh best quarterback.

Yeah, that surprises me. That's my biggest concern. I'm not sure he's a number one guy because if you say 28, that's 24 fantasy points. If you take away two rushing touchdowns, you're down to 36 fantasy points, and that's not really a number one quarterback. I don't think he's going to be below 4,000 yards, though. I think that was a little bit. Yeah, he missed the game.

He didn't play week 17. Yeah, I think that'll come up a little bit. And also, you've got to factor in what Jared Cook brings. I mean, he's clearly an upgrade over Ben Watson and Colby Fleener and what that terrible situation has been. The other part is their schedule's not easy. They're going to face a better Falcons defense. But, because I did want to talk about the

schedule, this is the thing that makes it hard for me to quit Drew Brees. The guy has so many huge week-winning games. He had six games with more than 30 fantasy points and six points for touchdown leagues, and he has three primetime home games, Monday night or Sunday night. Oh, I get it.

That's so exciting. I think you still have great potential to trust Drew Brees as a number one quarterback because of scenarios like that. Right. But don't take him seven. No. Okay. All right.

Then we've got two running backs I want to talk about, Sonny Michel and Marlon Mack. And really, you know, it's a philosophy for you, Heath, of guys in PPR leagues, running backs who don't catch passes, make you a little nervous, right? I think you could make almost the exact same argument for both backs, and it is a PPR argument. Ooh, PPR argument.

A PP argument. Yes. No, no, no, no. A PPR argument. A PP argument. No, no, no. A PPR argument. We're not going to strike that from the record. We're having a PP contest right now. They do not catch passes. Would you do that standing or sitting?

Other backs in their backfield that are going to handle that part of the game, and they have serious injury and durability concerns. The other thing that mac has i don't think michelle will have is i could like the the colts can be a very pass heavy team they were i think most past heavy offense in the nfl last year i i expect the the patriots are going to run the ball plenty but there are just so many running backs there that i don't know that Michel will have a four-week stretch, I'm sure,

where he's awesome in fantasy. I don't want to trust it for the entire season. Well, if we look at Mack first, running back 13 in the Fantasy Pros consensus rankings, 26th overall. That's much higher than I've seen him go in our drafts. That's like nearly a round higher, I'd say. In this draft that I'm currently in, he went in the end of the second round.

End of the second round. Top 24 pick? Yeah, I like Marlon Mack. I think Marlon Mack's going to have a great season, but I wouldn't take him that soon. Was this your draft PPR or no? Yep. I do think his best case scenario is first round. Do you think so, Heath?

I don't think his best case scenario is first round in PPR. Jamie, what do you think his best case is? Yeah, I think that would take just a miraculous season from him and probably Naheem Hines getting hurt. I do think he can catch the ball. I just don't understand how they don't use him more in that regard. Look, he was very good for a stretch last season. But I think he falls short of being a first-round talent.

The talent around him can propel him to be that way, but I just don't think he has that ceiling if everybody's healthy. Yeah, it's top five offense probably. Best offensive line in football, arguably. It's exciting. Best quarterback, arguably. Yeah, everything is good for him. Does Jordan Wilkins get a bigger role?

Does Marlon Mack get 220 carries? If he plays 16 games, I think he probably gets 200. Oh, well, he had 195 in 13 games. Right. So, yeah. I mean, 220 should be easy for him if he plays 16 games. I think he probably gets 200. Oh, well, he had 195 in 13 games. Right. So, yeah. I mean, 220 should be easy for him if he plays 16 games. I don't worry about Wilkins. It's the combo of Wilkins and Ware.

Because one of those guys isn't going to make the team. Sure. It'd be a surprise if it's Wilkins not making the team. Okay. You know, and Naheem Hines talking about getting 1,000 total yards. Maybe. He could do that, you know, in a lesser And Naheem Hines talking about getting 1,000 total yards. Maybe. He could do that, you know, in a lesser Tariq Cohen type of role.

But, again, the thing you're banking on is so many scoring opportunities for this team. So where would you be comfortable taking Marlon Mack? Third round for me. You said his ADP is 26? Yeah. Yeah, that's the right range for me. Heath? I'd rather take him in the fourth,

which means I'm not going to get him on BPR. All right, then what about Sonny Michel? I mean, it's basically the same argument, except worse. What makes Mac better than Michel? Because they both are going to be on similar offense. I mean, the Patriots and the Colts are going to score a similar amount of points, most likely. Michelle had 209 carries in 13 games.

Mack had 195 in 13 games. Neither of them was involved in the passing game. The Colts did not draft a running back in the third round. Right. I'm not arguing. I'm just asking. The Colts don't worry me about...

I mean, we had that stretch where Michelle was awesome and scored like one touchdown in a month because James Devlin became the vulture. Worry me about I mean we had that stretch where Michelle was awesome and scored like one touchdown in a month because James Devlin became the vulture I Just I I'm more concerned about if both guys stay healthy I don't see a way that Mac's not going to at least be the starter the lawyer I think there's a chance that Sony Michelle could not be the starter for four weeks or not score touchdowns for four weeks with no fault of his own. It could be, you know, look, we know what the Patriots are.

They've been in the last two Super Bowls. They're playing for, you know, January and February. They're not worried about September and October. They could put Michel on the publicist. What? He's had arthroscopic knee surgery. I'm not saying they're going to, but they could. They have three very capable running backs that can handle the workload to make sure that his knee is 100%.

And you heard what Ben Volan told us. Patriots beat reporter for the Boston Globe. For anybody who missed it, he said he could see Damien Harris getting the goal-in opportunities, being the better of the two running backs from a fantasy perspective. I mean, it's not a stretch. No, yeah. And that's the concern.

Now, I do like the fact that Michel's ADP has fallen to the fifth round. So that's a more realistic range of where you're going to get him. And I think that's good value for him. Like, you know, the draft I won't talk about,

but I continue to talk about. So as a non-PPR, Keith took Michel in the fourth round. And we do this Q&A as part of our draft. And, you know, that was one of the questions i asked ethan he your answer was i think apropos in your mind the fourth round non-ppr was

too far for somebody of his ceiling right to let fall that far now if he's right not you his knee if michelle's knee is is 100 or close to it or at least what it was last year could be a steal you know that's a guy, could be a steal. That's a guy that could be a first round. I mean, I remember when I did my rankings at the end of the offseason, he was back into the second round for me. You know, thinking, okay, he just came off a postseason run with six touchdowns and 330 plus yards rushing. He was a star.

Right. Yep, they certainly relied on him. I think the better comp for him is what Derrick Henry is. Like, if you're buying into Derrick Henry, this is the same guy. Alright, we got three wide receivers to talk about on Heat's bus list, including a guy who's basically been the best wide receiver in football

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Heath teased that we might get some Tyreek Hill news while we were on the show, while we were on the air. We don't really have much, right? Yeah, Kevin Keatsman reporting that Tyreek Hill will meet with multiple league officials in Kansas City this week with his legal representation there. It might be a sign that in the next couple of weeks we might actually get some information. I mean, the scariest thing of the Tyreek Hill situation for our fantasy players is that we get to draft season and he's just sitting in the same position he is right now. I don't think that'll be the case. I don't think it will be. But there was a little bit of talk that until the DCF investigation was over,

the league wasn't going to act. Yeah, I mean, we've been going on the assumption of a six-game suspension. Sounds like it could probably be eight games. Eight games? Why is that? Well, if you're just making the comparison of code of conduct, that's what Kareem Hunt got. Now, obviously, Hunt, there was video associated with it. I don't think it's worth discussing until we know, but our

speculation right now is as giving fantasy advice, which is so horrible to even associate with this situation, but six games is what we're anticipating. Okay, let's move on. Let's talk about Adam Thielen, Antonio Brown, and Alshon Jeffrey.

These guys are on Heath's bust list. And, Jamie, if there's one that you disagree with between Adam Thielen, Antonio Brown, and Alshon Jeffrey as a bust, who would it be? Oh, I agree with all three. They're three busts for me as well. But I think Thielen is the one that you can probably feel the safest with just given where he's probably going to get drafted. You know, I did see, I think, a fantasy football calculator has him going like the 10th receiver,

which is, to me, way too soon in PPR. And I understand why. You know, he was so special for the first, what, nine games last season? Nine games in a row with 100 yards? I think he was the number one receiver in fantasy through like week 10. Yeah, he was awesome. But, you know, things are changing in Minnesota, at least if Mike Zimmer gets his way.

You know, Brown, if you get him at the back end of round two, and I say this as having him as a bust, you get him at the back end of round two or early round three, it's hard to say that that's a bad pick. Is that a bad pick, Heath, for Antonio Brown, around 24th overall? If you could get him at the back end of round two or early round three, I think that's fine. I don't really expect that's where you're going to get him. I think his ADP is like 17th.

That's too soon for me. Yeah. So would you guys take Kelsey or Brown? Kelsey. Kelsey. So you don't consider Brown to be part of the elite tier with Beckham and Michael Thomas and Julio Jones, etc.? No. No, I think he's in the top of that second group.

All right, why? Last year he was number three, wide receiver three. The year before he was wide receiver two, and he's number one in PPR. In fact, 2014, 15, 16, and 17, he was the number one wide receiver in PPR. How about that? Oh, I mean, he's been exceptional. Right. So why? I don't know if you paid attention? Oh, I mean, he's been exceptional. Right. So why?

I don't know if you paid attention or not, but there's a little change with Antonio Brown. He doesn't play for the Steelers. What? Antonio Brown was on the Steelers? No, obviously I get it. I'm asking why so we can tell people why, not because I need to be convinced.

It's the change. I mean, you're losing Roethlisberger. You're losing that offensive line. You're losing that run game. You're losing the play caller. You're losing everything that goes associated with it. I feel like they could have a good offensive line in Oakland. They could, but I don't think it'll be as good as what Pittsburgh's been. It's just hard to project.

Like, I don't know what to expect. I don't know what he's going to be like on Oakland. Here's a couple of things. One, I feel relatively confident. I don't know for to expect. I don't know what he's going to be like on Oakland. Here's a couple of things. One, I feel relatively confident. I don't know for sure about the offensive line. It might be good. I feel relatively confident Derek Carr is not going to be as good as Ben Roethlisberger. I don't really know that Brown's going to get quite the number of targets that he did in Pittsburgh,

partly because I don't expect the Raiders to be able to run as many plays as the Steelers did, because I don't think their offense will be as good. I don't think he's going to have the double digit touchdown year. Like he has for the last five seasons, partly for the same reason that I just discussed the first two. And then the final thing is he's 31 years old and I still think he's awesome, but he did last year post his lowest

yards per target 7.7 yards per target or if you want to look at yards per reception 12.5 combined with a 62 catch rate not not very good considering where he's been over his career it's about a full yard lower than where he's been over his career. And that's a little bit scary too. He's also never caught a touchdown from anybody not named Roethlisberger. Doesn't even know how. He doesn't. Yeah, he's a tough one. I mean, I don't know that he deserves to go ahead of like A.J. Green,

Keenan Allen. And that's a fair argument. You know, I think that's the thing though with him. And it's five spots, seven spots. Like that's what we're arguing here. You know, like I think if you get him 22, 23, 24, 25, it's good value. 17, shows a little bit of reach.

The thing is, those guys going between 17 and 25, I feel a lot better making the pick at 17 than I do at 25. Yeah. I would much rather have Keenan Allen in both formats. I'll take A.J. Green and non-PPR. I still think I'm going to take Brown and PPR, but it's close. I think you could make an argument for most of the guys in that tier over him just based on what Carr's going to be.

I think Cooks is interesting. Hilton's interesting. Cooks. That is interesting. I don't know that anybody's taking Brandon Cooks over Antonio Brown. No, nobody is. But, again, it's just a matter of would it shock you

if the number one receiver for, arguably the number one receiver for the Rams is better than the number one receiver for the Raiders? No, especially since Brandon Cooks is like a top 12, top 15 wide receiver every year. He has been every year. Top 15 in PPR,

top 14 in non-PPR. Okay, and then let's talk about Alshon Jeffrey, who Keith just hates. I think that's basically what it is. You just hate Alshon Jeffrey. Yeah, mostly. Well, and the Eagles and all of their fans and the city. No. Their fans are not as good as the St. Louis Cardinals fans.

We're not going to do that here. The thing that worries me about al sean and actually he was awesome last year when they threw him the football 70 catch rate was by far the best of his career highest yards per target of his career he didn't have the weird touchdown year he did in 2017 and he missed three games but he was still very good when they threw him the ball he's averaged like six and a half targets per game in Philadelphia. That's not somebody you want to start in fantasy. Yeah, you're right.

So where does he... Well, no. That's not... But he has produced as someone who has been someone you want to start in fantasy. Isn't that more important than what he's actually done? I'm going on what I think is more predictive for what he's actually done? I am going on what I think is more predictive for what he's going to do. I mean, at some point,

it's like he's done it two years in a row, where despite low targets, Alshon Jeffries still been very good. Let's be a little bit... We've gone four years in a row where he's had between 789 and 843 receiving yards. He misses time every year between 52 and

65 catches and he misses time every year he did not miss any time in 2017 he played 16 games yeah but he took some snaps off no one in football does that uh yeah so he was a top 20 wide but he's had two years with the eagles right he's been a top 20 wide receiver. He's had two years with the Eagles, right? He's been a top 20 wide receiver. And I don't know where he finished last year. But he only played 13 games. I think his ADP is fine. I have him as a bust as well. His ADP is not horrible.

Do you guys have the same bust list, by the way? It's probably very similar. It's his consensus ranking that bothers me the most. He's ranked as a top 24 receiver. I don't see that, especially now that you have the expectation right or wrong, Dallas Goddard

is going to take on more work. The addition of Arcega Whiteside, the huge addition of Deshaun Jackson. So, the targets are going to come. I think Dave was joking, but that Nelson Aguilar is losing 70 targets. The targets are going to come. I know, I think Dave was joking, but that Nelson Aguilar is losing 70 targets. The targets are coming from everybody.

They're coming from Ertz. They're coming from Aguilar. They're taking away Golden Tate's targets, clearly. And so, Jeffrey's going to lose some. He's going to lose some targets? Yeah. But he only averaged six and a half targets. Is that last year? Now it's six. That he only averaged 6.5 targets. Is that last year?

Now it's 6. That's still a decline somewhere. That's maybe a touchdown for the season. Maybe it's 20 catches. He actually averaged 7.1 last year. 7.1 targets per game. It has to. Unless the Eagles

are turning into the Steelers. What about the argument that he's the best wide receiver on the Eagles? He is the Steelers. What about the argument that he's the best wide receiver on the Eagles? He is. I don't care about J.J. Arcega-Whiteside. But if you look at Andy Reid's track record, because that's where you have to sort of follow, Reid has never peppered a number one receiver.

And yet they had the number one receiver in fantasy last year at non-PBR. Well, you can have a great player go off in a great system with a great quarterback. I just think Jeffrey's probably a better player than maybe some people think. I don't think he's a great player anymore because he's pretty beaten down. He's never been a guy who can run to the essence of what true number one receivers do. But he's so

good with his body and being a physical receiver. It's just a matter of, like last year in the 13 games, I think it was 7 with 11 or more PPR points and 6 with 8 or less. Which way does that go? He had a bad game against the Vikings.

He had a bad game against the Jaguars, right? And then that's to be expected. And then his quarterback got hurt. I don't know. I'm pretty sure he was better with Nick Foles. Oh, I know what it was. It was the Golden Tate trade.

Golden Tate came in, screwed up everything. He had two games of more than 60 yards after the Tate trade, but that was a midseason trade. But go back to what you just said, though. You're not concerned about Jackson or Whiteside. No, I didn't say Jackson. I said I'm not concerned about Whiteside. Oh, but Whiteside could take away one of his touchdowns.

But, I mean, we could do this all the time with every single receiver. Of course. This guy brought this and this. Of course. At the end of the day, he's the number one receiver. That's where it comes down to value. And where does the value lie with Alshon Jeffery? Is he worth drafting as a number two receiver?

I feel like Alshon Jeffery is a better version of Allen Robinson. Yes. And Allen Robinson is also being drafted as a number two receiver. So where are you comfortable taking him? Or at least being ranked as. I'd rather take Jeffrey as a number three, and I'm perfectly happy taking him as a number three. He's my number 30 receiver right now.

Yeah, that's, I think, a perfect range for him. I'm trying to. I can't do the math. Fantasy Football Calculator doesn't say which wide receiver he is. I need to count. So I'm trying to... I can't do the math. Fantasy Football Calculator doesn't say which wide receiver he is. I need to count. So I'm curious. Because the Fantasy Pros rankings has Jeffrey 52nd. And on Fantasy Football Calculator,

he's going 68th. So 69th. I mean, does that seem more reasonable? 69th overall for Jeffrey? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's the end of the sixth round. That's not bad.

26-27. 27th wide receiver off the board. So it's a little high. Okay. All right, those are Heath's busts. So what happens when Heath gets frustrated, Jamie? Like when you ask him a question where he's just sort of stumped. Like what does he do? Sighs. gets frustrated, Jamie? Like when you ask him a question where he's just sort of stumped, like what does he do?

Sighs. He sighs, right? So today on the Fantasy Baseball Today podcast, Heath had I think his best sigh ever. I felt compelled to clip it and make it a drop. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah.

On the sigh-o-meter, how would we rank this one? Ah. That's a 12. That's pretty good, huh? I don't remember the question, but it was like... Where did you get this audio from? It was ranking... I asked you to rank three pitchers today while you were

taking a piss, apparently. I hope that's all he was doing. Adam was creeping in the bathroom again. It wouldn't be the first time. Okay. Well, I'm glad we got to share that little gem with everybody. Jamie, you did a couple drafts at the eighth spot. One of them is still going on right now.

And you said, hey, I want to talk about the drafts and the different ways I could go about the eighth pick. So let's talk about this for a few minutes, and we're going to finish with some emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. All right, set it up for us. So one was for another publication, another magazine, and then one is a mock draft that I'm doing for NFL.com. The one for – I'll start with the NFL.com one.

We're only through round six, a slow draft. So this was the second of the two, picking from the eight spot. And I decided purposely to take a different route, even though the same player was available. So I started with DeAndre Hopkins at eight. Somehow, Juju Smith-Huster fell to round two. Whoa. Easy start there.

It's the three-receiver league. Somehow, even more incredibly, Keenan Allen fell to round three. So after taking the two receivers, I thought, okay, maybe I'll just go looking at running backs, clearly, in the third, fourth round. It was hard to pass up on Keenan Allen and just lock up those three receivers. Then round four, I took David Montgomery. Round five was James White. And round six, I allowed Adam to make my pick for me. We were chatting at the time, and I said,

here, you have your choice of, I'll see what you would have done, Heath, your choice of Tevin Coleman, Tariq Cohen, Lamar Miller, any quarterback not named Mahomes, or Evan Ingram. And this is not PPR?

PPR. Let me set it up. It's 12-team PPR. He has Hopkins, Juju, and Keenan Allen. He starts three wide receivers. Running backs are David Montgomery and James White. And he's on the clock with his sixth pick, looking at Tevin Coleman, Tariq Cohen, Lamar Miller.

Any quarterback not named Mahomes or Evan Ingram. And you've got how long until it comes back to you? It's basically beginning of round six. A long time. The reason I ask is because this is the point. I lean pretty strong towards Ingram

just because I don't think you're going to get Howard. Howard's gone. So you're probably not getting Ingram or Henry then. Henry is gone also. So I'm taking Ingram. You would take Ingram. Well, no.

Yeah. I just did not say that. That makes sense. No, and it was one of the players I considered. I wanted to get just a little bit more running back depth there. Oh, yeah. I took Coleman. I would have taken Cohen. I have Cohen ranked higher, but I didn't want running back depth there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I took Coleman. I would have taken Cohen.

I have Cohen ranked higher, but I didn't want to take both pairs. Yeah. So I took Tevin Coleman on Adam's request. I would have taken Cohen and then said I was doing the friendship strategy. That's what he said. That's what I said. Yeah, but it's not really a friendship strategy. So when I first messaged him, I said,

I'm leaving Coleman when I meant to say I'm leaning Coleman. And he goes, oh, so take Cohen and do the friendship strategy. And I said, oh, and meant to say I'm leaning Coleman. And he goes, oh, so take Cohen and do the friendship strategy. And I said, oh, and I realized what I wrote. And he goes, oh, no, no, no, take Coleman. Yeah. You know what I'd like to know, Jamie, actually? You start out with Hopkins and Juju.

You have three receiver league, and you see Keenan Allen there. But which running backs were there that you took Keenan Allen over? That's a good question. I do know that I could have had Kenny Galladay where I took Montgomery. So, let me get to that for you. In the fourth round

where I took, I'm sorry, in the third round where I took Keenan Allen, the running backs available are three that I like very much. The next one that went off the board was Josh Jacobs, then Kerryon Johnson, and Aaron Jones. I would have taken Aaron Jones. Yeah, I think I probably would have.

So I could have gone Aaron Jones and then Kenny Galladay or Robert Woods. Yeah, you didn't know that Galladay and Woods would be there. Right, but I also felt like Keenan Allen's a steal. In PPR? In the third round. Yes. As my third receiver. Right. But I also felt like Keenan Allen's a steal. In PPR? In the third round. As my third receiver. Right. And a starter to starter. He's my number six receiver in PPR. And to be honest with you, I think James White in the fifth round is like a mega steal.

It could be. I mean, you know, it depends on how you view Damien Harris' impact and if everybody's healthy. But yeah, James White was, I was very happy to get James White. I was hoping for it. Went one pick in front of me for Kenyon Drake. Now, had I gone Montgomery and Drake, I would have been thrilled on that. And the reason I took Montgomery ahead of Drake,

even though I have Drake ranked higher, I always look at these industry drafts on other sites and I lean on what the ADP is because I think, you know, you look at a board sometimes and you don't know how other people are going to draft. So I thought I had a better chance of, because a lot of industry people are high,

very high on David Montgomery. And I like him, but I thought that I had a better chance of getting lot of industry people are very high on David Montgomery. And I like him, but I thought that I had a better chance of getting Drake coming back to me in the fifth round, which was, again, one pick away. So we'll see how it unfolds. So the team is Hopkins, Smith-Schuster, Keenan Allen, David Montgomery, James White, and Tevin Coleman? Yes, so three backs and three receivers. What's the other squad? So the other squad, again, from the eighth spot.

Is it also a three-receiver league? Also a three-receiver league. Also PPR. Same exact scoring, four points for passing touchdowns as well. So I took Melvin Gordon at eight in this draft. And then Travis Kelsey in the second round. And I was thrilled at the time I did it. And then I watched where Zach arts and george kittle

fell to and i wanted to vomit because they both fell to the end of the third round so they were both there when you picked they were both there when i picked again so seeing that happen i was like ah man and ppr arts might still be the right pick. He might outscore everybody else that's available. In the third round? Yeah. Oh, I was shocked. But wait, but do you have a flex? Do you start a flex?

Yeah. Yeah. So you could start both Kelsey and Ertz. Oh, if I wanted to, yeah. But I mean, I didn't take them. No, it's the wrong pick. It's the wrong pick, Heath. Adam hates it when people do that. I remember when he told me what an idiot i was for starting a tight end in a flex

that year and then i won the league well the problem is when you when you start a tight end in a flex and you drafted the tight end late it's one thing when you take two tight ends with your first three picks and you're locking up your flex that's your roster you'll hear my receivers and you'll probably feel that way um all right, go ahead. Because of how it unfolded. So I took Gordon, Kelsey, and then Kerryon Johnson in the third round. Fourth round, Edelman. And then fifth round, this is probably the pick I should not have made, but I took Kenyon Drake in the fifth round here,

and I probably should have taken a receiver. So then in round six, I took Dante Pettis. Round seven, Rashad Penny. Round eight, Curtis Samuel. receiver so then in round six i took dante pettis round seven rashad penny round eight curtis samuel so my three receivers are edelman pettis and samuel as i'm starting them um and then geronimo allison round nine now i did try to do this but i got tempted the wrong way because i'm a big deshaun hamilton fan what i intended was to take Allison in round 9 and Valdez-Scantling in round 10 and just sort of, okay, I have that guy. And I'm like, well, there's a good chance maybe I get

Valdez-Scantling in round 11 and he went in the middle of round 10. Was he available to you in round 10? You skipped over him and then he went off the board? Oh, I'm sorry. He went at the end of round 10. So I took Deshaun Hamilton in the middle of round 10 and then Valdez-Scantling. Alright, so it's Melvin Gordon and Karyon Johnson. My running backs are great.

Love my running backs. I'm not sure I understand the Rashad Penny pick if you really needed wide receivers and you already had three running backs at that point. I didn't like anybody on the board there. So the receivers that were available, I guess you could argue Marvin Jones. But I'm just not a big

Marvin Jones guy. I think Rashad Penny could be the best running back in Seattle, and I thought it was good value. Gordon, so Heath, if we look at the first six picks of each team, let's see who we like better in a three-receiver PPR league. Hopkins, Smith-Schuster, Keenan Allen, David Montgomery, James White, and Tevin Coleman, or Melvin Gordon, Travis Kelsey, Kerryon Johnson, Julian Edelman, Kenyon Drake, and Dante Pettis.

Knowing that Curtis Samuel is going to be his number three receiver. Sorry, I didn't listen to anything you just said because I was in my own head thinking about something. About Jamie's draft, I was thinking about the Zach Ertz thing again. Because your starting running backs are Melvin Gordon, Kerryon Johnson, and Kenyon Drake. So Drake's your flex. So if you had taken Ertz,

you would have Drake and Melvin Gordon as your running backs and Ertz as your flex. I think Zach Ertz is going to score more fantasy points than Kerryon Johnson this year in PPR. Yeah, probably so. But I'm also then locked into no flexibility. That's exactly right. I mean, that's not the only consideration.

I mean, that's a hope. Yeah, I mean, fantasy points is not the only consideration. I mean... Like, I understand the idea of you don't take two... You don't take... But we take three running backs with our first three picks sometimes and put a running back into the flex.

But you also have the opportunity to play that guy in the event of... There's more likelihood of injury, clearly, at that position. Yeah, right. I don't know. I think if Zach Ertz is there at the end of the third round, I might have to consider it. So, I mean, we could play this out. So, I take Kelsey in round two.

I take Ertz in round three instead of Kerryon Johnson. Edelman is now my first receiver in round four. Round five, Drake. You're number two running back. Right. Six is still Pettis, I guess. Yeah, I don't think anything else changes. Because Drake was your flex when you took him.

The only thing was you took your flex a little bit later. It's a better team in terms of the starting lineup, but... It's scarier, sure. But then again, like, carry on Johnson. If he has the year, you have him as a breakout. If he has the year he could have, he's a more valuable player than Zach Ertz.

And I'm probably a little biased in this because I have, like, I like carry on a lot. He's the top 16 back for me, but I have Drake ranked ahead of him or projected ahead of him. So I have no problem having Kenny and Drake as my number two ranked back. Yeah, I'm not far behind you on Drake's ranking. Which team do we like better, though? Which team do we like better? Oh, I like the receiver

start better myself. I don't know. I like your other. I like this team. It's sexy. The funny thing is, I was thinking about it. Adam's going to really like this team. Yeah, I like it. It's fun. My only trepidation with taking... Forget about the fact that Ertz and Kittle fell to the end of round three.

I think in a three-receiver league, it's hard to take a tight end early. Unless you have some things fall your way. Well, you know, it's funny you say that. Because last year, we uh the super flex league right and that the i don't think did you have to start a tight end you did but it was it was three receivers plus a super flex and a regular flex and it really devalued tight ends and i took kelsey kind of early and i felt kind of bad about it, but I ended up going to the finals. Why would that devalue tight ends?

Because there are so many starting spots that position scarcely just didn't really matter as much. Like, you just want production, basically. Like, tight ends, I don't know if you remember, tight ends went super late in that league. A lot of people made tight

ends one of their last picks. So, yeah. Maybe I'm missing one of the details. This is a really crappy point. Let's read emails. Fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. I can do that without screwing up royally. This is from Henry.

Subject line, what am I missing? Everyone is drooling over Juju Smith-Schuster and even talking him up, almost comparable to Devontae Adams. For most of Juju's career, he's faced the number two cornerback, or Devontae's faced the number one and has been solid. Why is there such confidence that even with the targets that he may get, that Juju will be able to do anything near to what he did last year when he didn't match up with the top cornerbacks?

It's funny because I would say Devonta Adams is a great comparison of a guy who went from the two to the one and excelled at it. It's true. If there's ever a comp... And he wasn't near as good as the two as Juju was.

Right. It's really... I don't want to say it's a bad argument against Juju was. Right. You know, so if you're – it's really – I don't want to say it's a bad argument against Juju because he's been so good on almost every stopping point, you know, from college to rookie, from rookie to second year. You know, like every measurable he'll get from his quarterback, to me, offsets everything that the defense will throw at him. Because you could try and take away a side of the field. You can try and take away a guy with doubles in the red zone. We've seen that with Julio Jones and Calvin Johnson over their careers. But great receivers just make plays.

And Roethlisberger is the quarterback who will throw into traffic, who will take chances. They'll scheme up ways to get bubble screens. They'll put him in the slot. They'll move him around. I mean, he's just got such a high ceiling. And go back through the offseason, Heath, of some of the conversations we've had where you said you have Dahlbeck's

projections because you're so excited about what his numbers could be. I think Ben Gretsch said the same thing. It's hard to look at Juju and say that there's not the potential for him to be number one at the position. Also, don't forget about 2017 when Antonio Brown was out and Juju Smith-Schuster as a rookie was a monster. That is really important. Week 16 and 17 without Antonio Brown,

six catches, 75 yards, and a touchdown on seven targets. Nine catches, 143 yards, and a touchdown on 10 targets. So that's pretty good. He's going to have some bad games. No. No, I mean where a team just takes him away. Patriots. But he's going to have just some monster, monster games that you're going to be thrilled to have him on your team. I don't even know if he's playing the Patriots. But he's going to have just some monster,

monster games that you're going to be thrilled to have him on your team. I don't even know if he's playing the Patriots. Okay, this is from Alan. The Steelers always play the Patriots. No, they don't. Well, I mean,

they didn't finish the same in their division this year, so I don't know. Doesn't matter. I hope they do. The rules are. Alan from a seaside town

south of London. I'll be sure him by the sea. I'm sure I didn't say that right. Hey, Adam, Jamie, Dave, and Keith. Are we sure we should be so high on George Kittle? I crunched the numbers, and in six games with Jimmy Garoppolo in 2017 and three games with Jimmy Garoppolo in 2018, Kittle had 41 targets, 28 catches, 429 yards, and only one touchdown.

Over 16 games, that's 50 catches, 762 yards, and two touchdowns. I don't expect Kittle to be that bad, but is he really a Tier 1 tight end under Garoppolo? It's tough to break it up as much as you probably should if you were going to put together tiers. I do think that there, especially in PPR, is a drop off between kelsey and urts and kittle um and there's a little bit of risk that the with one of the young receivers plus dante pettis taking a step means fewer targets for kittle but i i couldn't put someone else ahead of him so if you wanted to say that

he's a tier two tight end but he's the only one in tier two, I guess that's fine. But he's three. But I read this email because it's important that what you're citing here, these numbers, I'm talking to Alan, of Kittle with Garoppolo, that's mostly

2017. In 2018 he played three games with Garoppolo. He had five catches for 90 yards on nine targets at Minnesota. Then he did nothing. Two catches for 22 yards against Detroit. And then five catches for 79 yards on seven targets at Kansas City. So that's two games with five catches, 79

or more yards, and seven or more targets out of three. So I don't really buy the split. Alright, next email. Well, I think the thing with both Kittle and Ertz, and that I think was reflective in that draft that I did, is that you don't – there are some drawbacks with both those guys because of the additions that they made

and just how good they were last year. Like there's going to be flaws. I guess it kind of goes to do you draft them as your flex, one of them as your flex. Right. Is it better to wait for Ingram, Howard, or Henry in that next wave? In some cases, three rounds later. Right.

And just looking at the 2018 games, I will say the one thing that's kind of different. He had like a 23% target share just under playing with Garoppolo. For the season, he was at 26.5%, so he was probably closer to 30% without Garoppolo. But it's three games. Right. So it's hard to say, and one of those games was a bad one. I don't know that we can draw any conclusions from that.

It's not enough, right? And who knows if Jimmy Garoppolo will play 16 games anyway. Well, if he does, he's probably going to be the number one quarterback in fantasy. Next email is from Matt. Somewhere near the home of the NBA champions. Go Raps.

Dear Kawhi, Kyle, and Pascal. Pascal? Siakam? Whatever. Those would be three 2018-19 Raptors and only two 2019-20 Raptors. Heath how do you think

Adam went this NBA playoffs knowing he was or before the draft lottery think he's going to get Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving and Zion to now getting RJ Barrett Oh you know R.J. Barrett. Oh, you know I'm team R.J. Barrett.

Vucevic. Vucevic. And. I am team R.J. Barrett. He's going to be a better pro than Zion Williamson. Oh, you said that a long time ago. Yes, I did. I was terribly wrong then.

But. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a better fantasy basketball option. He's going to be a better pro. He's made for the NBA. Okay. 12-team PPR option. He's going to be a better pro. He's made for the NBA. Okay. 12-team PPR league. It's an auction league.

$200 budget. If I were to stack Deshaun Watson and DeAndre Hopkins, quarterbacks usually go for top dollar. What would be good pairings for running back to target? I'm thinking Fournette and some tier three wide receivers. So if he spends big on quarterback and wide receiver with Watson and Hopkins, what would you recommend going forward, you know, the rest of the team? I mean, if you can get that, you know, depending on how you tier them,

those, you know, two of those tier two, tier three running backs, that would be exceptional. Yeah, I think a guy that, guys that will probably be undervalued in that might be Kenyon Drake, might be... Mark Ingram. Mark Ingram. Yeah. Evan Coleman.

Yeah. And Fournette probably will be too. Like, you can get Fournette and Kenyon Drake. It's amazing. The sigh is amazing. But yeah, I think you look at, if you're looking at Fournette, put Fournette and Kenyon Drake. It's amazing. The sigh is amazing. But yeah, I think you look at, if you're looking at Fournette, put Fournette, Aaron Jones, Kerryon Johnson.

Devontae Freeman probably gets a little overlooked depending on how he does in the preseason. You ready for some rapid fire keeper questions in the show? All right, this is from Brett. If we said no, what would you have done? I would have done it myself. Brett, no, I wouldn't have. Don't go anywhere.

Brett from City Northwest of Phoenix. 10-team half PBR league. I'm keeping Saquon in the first round. Should I keep Devante Adams in the second? Travis Kelsey in the second? Or Aaron Jones in the 13th? Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones.

Jim in Philadelphia. Should I keep Robbie Anderson in the seventh round? Is that good value in PPR? It's probably going to be what his value is. Right. Maybe a round off. So if that's your only keeper option, it's fine. But I don't think you...

I like Robbie Anderson a lot, and I'd probably take him in the fifth round personally. But if it's Anderson in the seventh versus an Aaron Jones in the 13th type situation, you lean toward the better value in that scenario. But if it's a keeper league with multiple keepers, I would rather have Robbie Anderson than a seventh round pick. Yes. Okay, and then finally, Zacherts or Mike Evans in the fourth round PPR?

Who should I keep? This is from Aaron. Mike Evans. You think? I think Mike Evans. I was going to say, though, you can find a receiver in the fourth round that may be able to do what Mike Evans does.

Can you find? I guess we just talked about that. You can find O.J. Howard or Evan Ingram. Yeah. Keep Evans. Keep Evans. just talked about that you can find oj howard or evan ingram yeah keep keep evan keep evans well thank you everybody for listening heath have a good vacation hey thanks appreciate it all right that's uh what day we do all these things well we'll definitely have a show on thursday i gotta go bye and maybe on wednesday bye