Fantasy Football Today - 06/25: Early Busts; Barkley's Value (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: June 25, 2018Most upside and downside from this group (1:15): Michael Crabtree, DeVante Parker and Randall Cobb. We debate those 3 WRs to start the show! ... Let's take a look at early bust candidates from Jamey a...nd Heath. We've got a surprisingly high amount of Eagles on this list (15:33) as they agree on Alshon Jeffery and Jay Ajayi. Heath also has Carson Wentz on his bust list. Why are we throwing some shade at one of the best offenses in the NFL? ... More busts! Our thoughts and theories on Alvin Kamara (20:55), LeSean McCoy (22:55), Sony Michel (27:15), Chris Thompson (32:00) and Jared Goff (34:15). Then we put Saquon Barkley under a microscope (37:50) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Ian.
Three times a week now going forward, and then eventually four,
and eventually five, and maybe six.
Welcome to the Fantasy Football Today podcast on Monday, June 25th, taking a look at some early busts.
Both Heath and Jamie have busts published on the website and breakouts and sleepers as well.
Today we'll focus on some of the losers, some of the guys who are going to be drafted a little bit too early.
You know, the Philadelphia Eagles, they won the Super Bowl.
They scored the second most points in the NFL. You got three players that we're going to talk about
today that could be bust for the Philadelphia Eagles. Dave, Jamie, Heath, you guys are not
bust. Good afternoon. Hello. Hi. Yo. What's going on? How are we doing? How's everybody
feeling? How was your weekend? All the pleasantries. I went to a couple breweries over the weekend.
I know that's always weird when I tell you that I did that.
I'm not surprised.
I didn't go to any breweries.
That's also not surprising.
Okay, great. I've had enough of your
weekends. Let's do a Twitter poll.
Which of these three wide receivers
has the most upside?
And then, of course, I asked, which has the most
downside? Michael Crabtree,
Devante Parker, and Randall Cobb.
Michael Crabtree, Devontae Parker, and Randall Cobb.
Who has the most upside?
Funnily enough, the people who voted in the Twitter poll had the same wide receiver win both the upside poll and the downside poll.
But, Dave, who has the most upside, Crabtree, Parker, or Cobb?
I'm going to predict that Parker won both polls, and I'll say Parker has the most upside.
Heath, most upside.
Crabtree, Parker, Cobb. I also think that Parker won both polls, but I will say that volume gives Michael Crabtree
the most upside.
Jamie, your answer, sir.
Cobb has the most upside, according to the voters, and Crabtree has the most upside.
Jamie's wrong about everything.
Devante Parker.
Well, no, wait.
No, no.
You're not wrong about your answer, but you're wrong about who the voters said.
Your opinion is wrong, Jamie.
I didn't mean to say that.
Devante Parker wins the upside poll with 49 49 of the vote and the downside poll with
43 of the vote crabtree parker and cob so wait jamie you said who has the most upside
crabtree crabtree and heath agreed so dave you uh you said parker you agreed with the listeners
or the twitter followers it doesn't mean that i think he's going to be the best of the threesome.
In fact, he's the one I'm most likely to never draft of this group
because I just don't think he can do it.
But if he does get his act together, stays healthy,
and plays better than he ever has before,
then there is a chance that he can get you 1,000 yards.
Hey, that's just three things to check.
Get your act together, stay healthy, play better than you ever had before.
I think it may just be one thing.
I think it may just be stay healthy.
I think if he does what he did last year and gets just a little more of Jarvis Landry's
share and stays healthy, then he's going to be a 1,000-yard receiver.
Okay, so which of these three wide receivers has the most downside?
As I mentioned, Devontae Parker won that 43% of the vote.
Cobb had 33%, and Crabtree had 24% of the downside vote.
Jamie, who do you think has the most downside, Crabtree, Parker, or Cobb?
Parker.
I mean, just because of what's happened with his career so far.
I agree with Heath.
There's not a lot of
there's not a lot
that he has to do to get there,
but he just hasn't been able to do it
yet. And so, even with
Landry gone,
it's kind of the same opportunity for him.
There are targets to go around, but they've added
three potentially significant pieces
with Amendola, Wilson, and
Gusecki, whoever wins the tight end spot there.
But he just has to show why he was drafted in the spot he was drafted in,
the NFL draft.
Yep, Devontae Parker, first-round pick.
Dave, who has the most downside, Crabtree?
Does anybody think that Parker is not the answer to the most downside?
Yeah.
I will take the guy currently in a walking boot.
That's the only reason why you can say it is because he's,
Randall Cobb's limping around apparently isn't healthy now.
He's got the leg up on Devante Parker in that regard.
And he's had injury problems of his own.
But if it was not for that report, I would have agreed with Parker.
Okay.
Yeah, Randall Cobb in a walking boot right now on June 25th,
and that's all we know at the moment.
All right, so Crabtree—
They think he'll be ready for the start of the season for sure
and potentially the start of training camp.
Crabtree's pretty interesting.
He has been eight or nine touchdowns three straight years, all with Oakland.
In those three years, the Raiders, as a team,
have thrown 25 more touchdown passes than the Ravens have in those three seasons.
But Crabtree steps into the number one role,
which has shown in three of the last five years 1,017 yards or more for the Ravens
for their number one wide receiver, Mike Wallace, Steve Smith, Torrey Smith. Also, Steve Smith was on a huge pace in 2015 of 1,531 yards.
That was his pace in 2015.
So really the touchdowns haven't been there.
You can get 1,000 yards.
You can get 1,100 yards as the number one wide receiver for Baltimore.
But Crabtree's pretty interesting because he just had a really bad year last
year.
He caught the touchdowns.
He only had 618
yards in 14
games.
Who's optimistic? Who wants to draft
Michael Crabtree? Because this is a guy that
for whatever reason, he just has not really
I pretty much never put him in my queue.
I never have him on my teams in mock drafts.
Who wants Crabtree?
People desperate for running back
help slash depth in round six and seven.
Wide receiver.
He switched positions.
Wide receiver.
He's going to play running back this year?
Listen, Baltimore's desperate.
They need playmakers everywhere.
I don't know why I said that.
Do you guys want Michael Crabtree?
I'm fine with him where he's likely to go, yes.
But do you target him?
Like when you look at all the other tight ends, kickers, and DSTs, do you want Crabtree? Yes. But do you target him? Like when you look at all the other tight ends, kickers, and DSTs,
do you want Crabtree?
Yes.
I think, especially in PPR, getting him at the start of the fifth,
I feel very good about.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, let's see what his average opposition is right now.
Probably later than that.
Yes, it is.
Very late.
Jamie has well-manicured fingernails, I just want to point out to everyone.
97th overall.
I want all of the Michael Craig.
Yeah, that's great.
He's going after, right now, and this is according to my fantasy league,
he's going after Calvin Ridley.
Robert Woods also going very late, 90th overall.
Devante Parker, 89th overall.
Behind DJ Moore.
Oh, no, this is...
I don't think so.
No, but for whatever reason, the IDPs are in here.
Okay, yeah.
So I've got it without IDP.
And Michael Crabtree is going 63rd overall.
Really around 6th.
One spot ahead of Robert Woods.
After Sammy Watkins. Who would you rather have, Watkins or Crabtree? Crabtree. One spot ahead of Robert Woods.
After Sammy Watkins, who would you rather have, Watkins or Crabtree?
Crabtree.
I would rather have Crabtree.
I'm starting to wonder if I'm a little bit too low on Sammy Watkins, though.
There's a lot of talk coming out about how they are not going to use him the way the Rams did last year, which was basically as a decoy.
But it would be the first time in Andy Reid's history in Kansas City
that he'd actually feature a number two receiver.
So either that or Tyreek Hill's going to head for a very, very bad season.
Wait, watch this.
Ready?
Listen to this.
Bombshell that I don't necessarily believe,
but Sammy Watkins is better than Tyreek Hill.
I don't know how big of a bombshell that is.
Right? I feel like Hill's safer of a bombshell that is. Right?
I feel like Hill's safer for fantasy by a long shot.
Which is weird because of the type of player Hill is.
Like, nobody does what he did last year.
It's so easy to make the argument against Tyreek Hill because of what he's been doing,
but who's stopping him?
The only thing that could stop him is...
Well, I mean, he's got a new quarterback and the best complimentary receiver.
I mean, you just took the words out of my mouth.
I was about to get to that.
But the quarterback situation is definitely new.
But did you really think that Tyreek Hill would have the two years he's just had with Alex Smith?
No.
Right.
He might be the reason why Alex Smith had such a great couple of seasons.
I'm going to say that's why.
Kelsey as well, I would say.
Andy Reid.
All right, let's move on.
Let's go to the news and notes, and we'll get into the busts.
Odell Beckham may hold out.
I'm already tired of this story.
But Julian Edelman's appeal is going to be heard today.
We're going to come back with a podcast tomorrow.
Hopefully we have some Edelman news.
It seems like he actually has a case.
So we'll see.
Maybe something will happen.
His team is certainly is certainly make it sound
that way uh tennessee right tackle jack conklin is not guaranteed to be ready for week one according
to titans online he's recovering from acl surgery january acl surgery for conklin uh what do we make
of this freddie kitchens the running back coach for the browns said that the browns will ride the
hot hand at running back this year.
This is what's going to happen is Duke Johnson is going to have his role.
Everyone knows what it's going to be, third downs, passing downs, two-minute drill,
and then Chubb and Hyde will duke it out for everything else, including the goal line.
I would imagine Hyde has the early edge.
This is a team that's going to throw a lot and play combined. How many Cleveland Browns running back stable team names are we going to get on Team Name Tuesday?
Yeah. Try to incorporate all of the team name, all the running back names.
Yes.
Somebody said, you know, you can make a great team name out of their names.
But I said the only thing I can think of is like pretty dirty.
Can't really say it on the air.
Oh, I wasn't thinking anything dirty at all. What was it is pretty dirty. Can't really say it on the air. Oh, I wasn't thinking anything dirty at all.
What was it?
Well, I can't really say it on the air, but it involves two of their running backs.
Carlos Nick and Duke.
Actually, I guess.
That's not dirty.
No.
So Denver head coach Vance Joseph said Royce Freeman absolutely can win the job,
and he is competing with Devontae Booker and D'Angelo Henderson.
All right.
I'm not going to spend – I don't think we should spend time right now in June on these backfields.
Let's see how they shape up and shake out.
Cobbs wearing a walking boot.
Greg Ullman of the Tampa Bay Times thinks that Ryan Griffin could start for Tampa Bay instead of Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Jamie, you and I did that reaction podcast on Friday saying, you know, Fitzpatrick did pretty well.
Mike Evans led the team in receiving when he was with Ryan Fitzpatrick.
He had three pretty nice games.
What do you make of this report that it actually could be Ryan Griffin instead of Ryan Fitzpatrick?
You have to assume that the Bucs had some semblance of knowledge that this was going to happen to Winston, games. What do you make of this report that it actually could be Ryan Griffin instead of Ryan Fitzpatrick?
You have to assume that the Bucs had some semblance of knowledge
that this was going to happen to Winston given when the
transgression occurred.
At least they knew of it last year.
So either they felt very comfortable
with their quarterback room
and didn't feel that they needed to bring somebody in
or they had
some hope that Winston was
going to get no suspension whatsoever.
But I would imagine it's going to be an open competition.
If Fitzpatrick proves to struggle, which has happened throughout the course of his career at times,
then they will probably open the door.
But I would be very surprised if it's not Ryan Fitzpatrick given what –
he was 2-1 last year.
So it's not like he hurt them when he started for them.
And, I mean, let's face it.
I don't know if we talked about this on the show we did, Adam,
but would they really be favored in any of the three games that Winston would be active?
You know, with the Saints, the Eagles, and the Steelers on the schedule.
So, you know, my guess is they're kind of going in with the hope that they could steal one of those games, if not two.
Are you going to start Mike Evans week one at New Orleans against Lattimore?
Yes.
I didn't draft him to sit him.
Is he healthy?
Is he playing in the game?
He's not a surprise Sunday inactive?
I wouldn't do that to you.
I wouldn't ask you to start him and then make him inactive.
All right, you're going to start him then.
And Gene Steratore is retiring and reportedly headed to CBS.
He's a referee.
Was, was a referee.
Was a referee.
Always a referee. Has a very kind of bold, swaggy way of signaling for a first down.
Or any down, you know, the way he puts up his fingers.
First down, third down.
You know what I'm talking about with Sterator.
Right?
He's got swag.
Yep.
Okay, thanks, guys.
Appreciate that.
Also, I wanted to read the rules for the Alliance of American Football,
the AAF, which is a new league coming out next year, next February, after the Super Bowl.
Let's see what you think about these rules.
To differentiate the Alliance of American Football from its competitors,
there will be no TV timeouts and 60% fewer commercials.
Other differences will include no kickoffs, and instead of onside kicks,
the team trailing will receive the ball on its own 35-yard line facing 4th and 10.
There will also be a 30-second play clock and mandatory two-point conversion attempts after touchdowns.
No onside kicks.
They're going to get the ball at their own 35-yard line facing 4th and 10.
I don't mind that.
Sounds like fun.
It does sound like fun.
I also don't mind the mandatory two-point conversion attempts.
Although I don't think they should be mandatory.
I think if you want to take the one point,
there was a rule change proposal a couple years ago
that was if you want, you can just take the extra point without kicking it.
Or you can risk the point by going for two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You like that?
I like that.
You don't like the kickoffs where they are now?
Or the extra points?
I don't know what to think of the kickoff rule now.
The extra points, sorry.
Where they are now.
No, it's still not dramatic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's get into some early busts.
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So I looked at some of Heath's busts and Jamie's busts,
and two that you guys share, correct me if I'm wrong,
but in this edition of your busts, which will change as we get closer to the season,
Alshon Jeffrey and Jay Ajayi, you guys share them, these Eagles busts, correct?
Yes.
Wonderful. So let's talk about it. Ajayi and Jeffrey. And Heath, you also have Carson Wentz
as a bust.
I hate the Eagles.
Yeah, why do you hate the Eagles?
Wow. I don't hate the Eagles at all. I think they're going to be one of the top Super Bowl
contenders once again.
There are a lot of unsustainable things that happened in Philadelphia last year.
Their defense is improved.
And most importantly, they have so many weapons, both at running back, receiver, tight end.
I don't think the volume will be there for those guys.
Jamie, your thoughts on specifically Jeffrey and Ajayi? I just think Ajayi is going to get overdrafted a little bit.
Jeffrey, the shoulder injury concerns me a lot, and the touchdown reliability.
I think of the top 24 receivers, he was the fewest receptions.
And so I'm just a little bit worried that a little bit of a Super Bowl hangover,
a little bit of the injury, not ready to start the season.
And there's still someone unknown if he's going to be ready for week one.
There was a report that he could be on the Pup List.
So I just think both those guys are going to get a little bit overdrafted.
Yeah, weird fact.
He had 57 catches last year.
That was the most he's had since 2014.
But how many games has he played?
He's missed time, right?
Well, that's a part of the equation.
Okay.
Yeah, so he and I have gone back and forth on Carson Wentz.
If he had played 16 games,
he would have been the number one quarterback in fantasy.
If he had played 16 games,
he was on pace for the eighth most pass attempts in the NFL,
the eighth most passing yards in the NFL, the eighth most passing yards in the NFL.
4,056, which really isn't a lot.
But I don't know what to expect in terms of NFL passing yards anymore.
We're not going to get multiple quarterbacks.
We're not going to get three quarterbacks throwing for 5,000 yards.
I think those days are done.
But Tom Brady led the NFL in passing yards with a pretty low number last year.
But eighth most passing yards, fifth most rushing yards.
So where do you have Carson Wentz, Heath?
I am assuming you are the lowest on him.
Thirteen is where I have him.
And I think the eighth most passing yards, that's fine if that's what you want to expect from this year.
But then you should only expect the eighth most touchdowns or maybe sixth most touchdowns, not anything close to what he had last year.
And like the rushing, he didn't score any rushing touchdowns last year.
But he still picked up 30 fantasy points in 13 weeks on rushing production.
And he's already talked about how he's going to protect himself this year more than he did last year you believe that though yes i why he better i i guess i guess
and that's a big thing that's a big big deal for for me because if he has the eighth most passing
yards and the sixth most passing touchdowns and throw in his rushing totals i think you're looking
at a top five quarterback if If he had that, yes.
Plus, even if you thought, let's say he should be eighth,
I still think you have to downgrade him a little bit for the uncertainty around his entry.
Dave, where are you on the Philly guys?
I'm higher on them than Jamie and Heath are.
I think that Carson Wentz is a real deal.
I think he'll be good this year.
And if I like him, I've got to like at least one of his receivers.
And I don't love Alshon. I think he'll be good this year. If I like him, I've got to like at least one of his receivers. I don't love Alshon.
I'm not targeting him, but if I settle for him as a second
wide receiver in late round four,
early round five, in non-PPR,
I'll take him.
Ajay, I'm nervous about because I think that they're going to use
a bunch of running backs. I think
this defense is good. It's not great.
I don't know how many games Ajay
will be closing out in
this fourth quarter and what about alshon number two receiver for me solid number two receiver
worth taking like i said late round four early round five he's always been touchdown dependent
his last hundred yard game was week one of 2016 so i'm not looking for big yardage from him
i'm looking for pretty much 50 plusplus yards and a touchdown every week.
All right.
So Alshon Jeffrey and Jay Ajayi are going back-to-back, 46th, 47th overall,
according to MFL, my fantasy league.
And so they are end of the fourth round.
Jeffrey is going after Josh Gordon and Demarius Thomas.
Before Juju.
Before Golden Tate.
Jarvis Landry.
Marvin Jones.
Ajayi before Alex Collins.
I would take Collins.
But Ajayi before Deion Lewis, Sonny Michelle, Rashad Penny.
Would we take Rashad Penny over Ajayi?
Yes.
Yep.
Okay.
How many carries a game? You think it's the 15 carries a game? It's about the ceiling, I would say. Would we take Rashad Penny over JGI? Yes. Yep. Okay.
How many carries a game?
You think he gets to 15 carries a game?
It's about the ceiling, I would say.
15 touches.
Over the course of the season, I'd say he's right about there.
Because he's going to have some games where he gets like 19, 20, 21 carries.
And he's going to have some where he has eight.
And he has seven fumbles in his last two regular seasons, JGI, so don't forget that.
More busts.
Oh, Adam, I'll just close out with this.
I've been finding my way to Corey Clement in a lot of drafts lately, late rounds.
Heath has Alvin Kamara as a bust.
You know, I qualify it in the article. I think there are some things to be concerned about,
especially when he starts going in the top five or six of drafts,
as I've seen him do in some of our drafts.
In fact, there have been times when we've had to prevent people
from picking him even earlier than that.
And I don't want people to think that Mark Ingram's out the first four games,
Alvin Kamara's getting 25 touches a game for four weeks.
That's not going to happen at all.
They've already said as much.
And he has to get a little more work than he did to do what he did last year
because his efficiency, if you believe he's going to repeat that,
you think Alvin Kamara's the greatest running back in the history of football.
Nobody does that over more than one season,
not in terms of yards per carry, the in terms of yards per carry not in terms
of yards per reception i'm not even sure in terms of touchdowns if he can match what he did last
year on a per touch basis yeah so there's reason i'm fine with him at the end of the first round
he won't be there probably at the start of the second especially in a ppr league but if you're
taking him fifth or sixth based on an increased workload,
I think you're going to be disappointed.
Well, you know who can't?
Alvin Kamara can't do that, but you know who can, Heath?
Who can?
Alvin Kamara.
Yeah, that's probably true, except that it's not.
Nobody does that.
I think you guys are talking about the same person.
So where would you take him?
He's going sixth right now in ADP.
Like I said, I'd be fine with him at the one-two turn.
All right.
Probably late first in PPR, early second in standard.
Half PPR.
Would you guys rather have Leonard Fournette or Alvin Kamara?
Kamara.
Kamara.
Kamara in half PPR
Standard?
Or non-PPR?
Four net
Kamara for me
I think I'd still take Kamara
Kamara
Jamie has LaShawn McCoy camera
Lights Kamara action
Best team name I came up with last year
Feel free to use it, you can steal it
LaShawn McCoy is a bust, according to Jamie.
He is going to be 30 years old in July.
He is entering his 10th season.
And currently, let's see where LeSean McCoy is going.
He is going 19th overall, just behind Christian McCaffrey,
ahead of Devante Freeman, Joe Mixon, Jordan Howard.
All right, Jamie, explain your bust call for the Sean McCoy.
Well, I mean, you mentioned his age and his time in the league.
He's over 2,000 carries, 2,500 career touches.
He's got three new offensive linemen with Eric Wood,
Cordy Glenn, and Richie Incognito gone.
So with a team that's got its best weapons as Kelvin Benjamin,
Zay Jones, and Charles Clay,
a new quarterback which could be AJ McCarron
or what should be an inconsistent rookie in Josh Allen,
there's just not a lot to like about this Buffalo team.
And so if teams were focusing on LaShawn McCoy last year,
it's going to be magnified by a billion this year.
So I just think the price tag of him,
even in the end of the second round, is too high.
You feel that way in PPR?
Yep.
I guess the problem I have is he's just going to get so many touches, isn't he?
In theory, but, I mean, again, you're asking him to, you know,
carry such a heavy burden for a team that is probably going to be chasing points a lot,
and who knows how healthy he'll be. You know know he's had some durability issues in the past and you know
as he gets older as he gets more work on his body that becomes a little bit more of a concern so i
hope he stays healthy i hope he uh you know this is one guy i would like to be proven wrong on
because i think he's been so good for so long but it's just very difficult for me to trust somebody
at this stage of his career with such little around him to help him out.
Adam, it sounds like you're a little optimistic about Shady.
I thought about it today.
It gets to a point if I – okay.
Well, who would you take ahead of McCoy?
Would you take – once – Christian McCaffrey I would take ahead of him in PPR in a heartbeat.
Devontae Freeman would be a tough call.
But once we get to Joe Mixon...
I like McKinnon better than...
Yeah, okay.
I do, too.
That totally makes sense.
I do not.
I think what I think, Adam, is the injury risk is huge, but you get to that 2-3 turn,
and there's not any other running back there that I feel like, if he plays all year, he's going to be a top 10 running back, and he might be top five.
Right.
Especially in PPR.
Especially in PPR because I think he'll get 50 catches at least.
Yeah, but I would think the same for McKinnon and the same for McCaffrey.
Oh, McCaffrey, I have no – there's no question I'm taking him over McCoy.
I don't know about in non-PPR, but definitely in PPR.
You know what's weird?
You can look at the numbers, Heath.
You're the numbers guy.
He averages, in his career, one rushing touchdown for every 33 carries,
one receiving touchdown for every 29.4 catches.
In nine years, Sean McCoy's had two double-digit rushing touchdown seasons.
Very strange.
He just doesn't get a lot of rushing touchdowns.
And I wonder if Tyrod Taylor has been a reason for that.
Tyrod Taylor gets about four every year and could have been snaking some red zone
and goal line or inside the five-yard line touchdowns from him,
and that's obviously gone.
Could he get more rushing touchdowns this year without Tyrod Taylor there?
He could. I would say that's a double-edged sword this year without Tyrod Taylor there? He could.
I would say that's a double-edged sword because I think Tyrod Taylor may have also been responsible for some of his increased efficiency.
So his efficiency might get worse, but he may get a larger share of their red zone carries, yes.
I'd like to add one more tidbit, if I may.
At Baltimore, Chargers at home, at Minnesota, at Green Bay,
Tennessee at home, at Houston.
That's his schedule to begin the year.
That's not great.
When the best opponent that you've got is Tennessee, it's not good.
Buffalo's got five road games in the first seven weeks of the season.
Well, you don't want to play there early in the year when the weather's nice.
It's going to be really ugly in Buffalo this year.
All right, let's go to another.
Let's do another Jamie bust.
Staying on running backs.
Sonny Michel, Jamie.
You have Sonny Michel as a bust.
Let's see where the ADP is right now.
56th overall.
So mid to late fifth round in a 12-team league.
Sonny Michel.
Where's Burkhead?
What's his ADP?
Burkhead is 85th.
Yeah, I'll take that over Sonny Michel all day.
That's just what it is?
You just think Burkhead gets too much work?
I just think it's going to be a timeshare.
I think it's somewhat easy, but it's also lazy to say that Sonny Michel just walks into Deion Lewis' workload
and all of a sudden he's getting 200 touches.
He's been running third in OTAs and minicamp based on at least one report that I saw behind Burkhead and James White.
White, obviously, I would assume on passing downs, but I don't think Sonny Michel all of a sudden becomes the clear-cut guy.
And you look at last year, Deion Lewis' best games came when Rex Burkhead was gone.
So I think if Burkhead stays healthy for more than, what did he play, nine games last year?
If Burkhead stays healthy for 10, 13 games, that's going to be a problem.
So I know, Adam, you talked about this time and time again,
that when they find a guy, they stick with it, more so than what the reputation may be.
But I just don't see, even though they drafted him high, and stick with it more so than what the reputation may be.
I just don't see, even though they drafted him high,
and I think he's got a ton of potential,
I just don't think for this year he's got the chance to deliver as a starting fantasy option
for most of the season. There'll be pockets
of the season where he'll be very good
and if Burkhead gets hurt, he'll be fantastic.
But that price tag to me is just too high.
Anyone disagree? Sonny Michel?
No, this was another shared bust, so I agree with this one as well.
I would rather have Rex Burkhead over Sonny Michel at the same cost.
Yeah, and I'll go the other way.
This is a bad habit of mine.
Sometimes I get hung up in it, but this is a case where I buy into the talent.
And I've loved him at Georgia.
I think he was among the most NFL-ready running backs coming in.
Excellent in pass protection.
Good receiver, even though he wasn't featured that much in Georgia
because it wasn't a big part of their game.
Speed for days.
And he's going to bring a little bit of a different element to this offense
than even Deion Lewis had last year.
It's like a half step up from what deon lewis did and any running
back in new england is is a is an interesting pick in fantasy and i totally get where the guys
are coming from with rex because i mean 30 overall picks later and you might get the same guy it's a
good deal but i'm willing to draft him late round five, early round six, and be patient with him, stay the course,
maybe not even start him right away because there's a real good chance
that he only gets eight, nine, ten touches to begin the season.
But once he gets going, once it clicks,
and once this coaching staff trusts him,
I think he's going to be very, very good,
as a lot of running backs have been for the Patriots
when they get this kind of an opportunity.
I also wonder whether it's Gillislee bouncing back
or Jeremy Hill being a factor.
You look at the way that they started the season last year,
and I think it was five games for Gillislee where he had at least 12 carries.
So if they're all healthy, it's going to be difficult, I think,
for Sonny Michel to carve out a featured role.
Again, he could be good in the limited touches that he gets
if everybody's healthy.
But if everybody's healthy, it's just going to be one of those where,
like the Packers, take the last one that's on the board
because that could just end up being the best one.
I don't think he's got Kamara's speed,
but I wonder if they saw him and thought,
well, he can do some of the things that Kamara can do,
and these are all new wrinkles.
I don't know if Rex is as fast as Sony.
I think if you're looking straight at 40 times,
it wouldn't surprise me if Rex had a faster 40 time
because Sony's 40 time was not good.
And the one other thing is, even if he does get a grip on that roll,
he fumbled pretty often at Georgia,ia once every 55 touches that's one thing
that bill belichick does and so what would be the first thing that happens when he fumbles week one
goodbye it's the doghouse for a couple of weeks that's true that's a risk uh yeah burkhead's not
really like a you don't give him the ball necessarily in space and he makes a man miss
like like camara does.
I would feel much more confident in Michelle to do that.
I would too, but I think Rex can.
I don't think Rex is a slug.
No, no.
Okay.
I think this is going to be a dangerous run game this year.
They might end up – there might be some weeks where Brady really doesn't do much.
The other part of that, though, is there's two new offensive linemen as well.
So you got new guard, new tackle, and I would expect them to be fine, and they have, you know, arguably
the best offensive line coach in the NFL, but
you're asking a lot from a team that's
got a lot of overhaul, especially without
arguably the best receiver not playing the first four games.
All righty. Moving
on to another running back from Heath
Cummings. Chris Thompson of the Redskins
is a bust. Yeah, and this
is really a PPR only, because I don't think he can be a bust and non-PPR
because I'm not sure that he's going to get drafted.
But I am just a little worried that people are going to see what he did in 10 games last year
and think that's the guy that Chris Thompson can be.
He's been in the league for five years.
The only thing he's really done consistently is not stay healthy.
I fully expect he's going to be involved at the start
of the year as the passing downs back,
but they don't think that Geis
is just only a first and
second down running back.
I don't see a ton of upside.
I don't see a lot of security.
In Chris Thompson,
would you rather have Chris Thompson or Duke Johnson?
Duke. Would you rather have Chris Thompson or Duke Johnson? Duke.
Would you rather have Chris Thompson
or Sonny Michel in PPR?
Sonny Michel.
Okay, last one.
Chris Thompson
or Aaron Jones?
I think
I'd rather have Jones. At least there's a
possibility that Aaron Jones
could turn into a 15-touch-a-game guy.
There's no possibility with that with Christoph.
They pretty much ruled it out.
Gruden said as much.
They had the opportunity to do it last year when everybody was talking about Hurd.
And what happened?
He hurt himself.
No, even before that, though.
Yeah, they were giving it to him eight to ten times a game and handing it off to—
Yeah, it feels like they maximized it a dozen.
But he was pretty good when he had it for a dozen.
Yeah.
And he does have a quarterback that might not chuck it as much as he did last year, might play it safe.
That would be good for Thompson.
Whoa, you mean safe in the passing game, throw a check down?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was on pace.
Chris Thompson was on pace for 1,286 yards, total yards, and 10 touchdowns.
Yeah, there's no way.
Yeah, right?
No.
Not with Geis there now.
And I imagine that we're all going to get hot for Geis in August.
He's going to do some good things.
No, I'm there already.
I have to wait until August.
Where do you have him?
In the 20s.
Now, yeah, but could you move him up? Sure.
Yeah, like I'm wondering, will he be
our number two rookie running back? You both have him
20-21. Heath has him
29. He already is? Okay,
he's not mine, but...
Okay, that's Darius Geist we're talking about here.
One last bust. Jared
Goff. Jamie, Jared Goff is currently going
123rd overall,
beginning of the 11th round in a 12-team
league. Jared Goff. I'll see if I can find what QB he's being drafted as. He's going after Stafford,
after Roethlisberger, and after Rivers. But yeah, give me your explanation why Goff would be a bust
for you. It's similar to Jeffrey. Fewest receptions for him among the top 20 guys.
Goff was the fewest pass attempts among the top 10 guys last year.
So I think you just look at even the addition of Brandon Cooks,
and he should be an upgrade on Sammy Watkins,
but they only had 70 targets for that spot last year.
So I don't know how much more they'll be throwing.
Obviously, Todd Gurley is going to dominate this offense.
They have a better defense.
So it could lead to more attempts with the ball in their hands more,
but it could also take away the opportunity of maybe chasing some points.
So I think Goff is kind of similar to what he was last year,
and if the production in the limited attempts is not the same,
the fantasy production will obviously not be the same.
So I think he's a safe number two quarterback.
He's clearly somebody if you want to take a chance on anyone coming off of injury, Luck, Wentz, Watson, pair him with
those guys or the unproven guys of Garoppolo and Mahomes, very safe to do that with Jared Goff.
But to call him your starter, your number one guy, I just don't see it that way.
He is the 13th quarterback off the board.
That's too high for me.
So let me tell you who's going after Goff. Tell me who you'd take ahead of him.
Marcus Mariota.
No.
Andrew Luck.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Luck is going after Goff?
It's a pretty big date range.
So, you know, who knows.
But I feel like Luck's been going pretty late in the drafts that we've done
very recently.
Also, Patrick Mahomes.
Yeah, I'll take Mahomes.
Matt Ryan.
So far, the only one I disagree with so far is Mariota.
I'd take off over Mariota.
Matt Ryan.
No chance.
No, give me Ryan.
Give you Ryan.
Jamie, go for Ryan.
Ryan.
Vic or Ryan?
Jameis Winston.
We'll cross him off the list.
Cross him off then.
And finally, Dak Prescott.
Dak Prescott or Jared Goff?
Goff.
Goff.
Dak.
Dak!
Really?
Yeah, really.
Okay.
I like it.
Why?
Because I think Goff might pass less this year with that defense.
Well, he's not going to pass less than Dak.
Dak might end up having to pass a lot more because I think he's going to have to.
We're all just upset about what's happened to Dallas' receiving core.
Listen, we're talking about two quarterbacks that are outside of my top 15 15 if i had to throw a penny into a fountain and wish for one of these
quarterbacks to do better it would be dak i would take the chance on him okay and uh dak was 12th
last year golf was 10th last year they had almost the same amount of pass attempts. 13 more for Prescott. He did have, oh, 306 more rushing yards and five more rushing touchdowns than Jared Goff.
And he played one more game, right?
I don't know off the top of my head.
Sounds right.
Yeah, Goff didn't play Week 17.
Yeah, that sounds right.
All right, we're going to do some emails in a bit.
FantasyFootball at CBSi.com.
First, let's put a first-round pick under a microscope.
We have already done Zeke, Gurley, Hopkins, Brown, Beckham, Melvin Gordon.
Let's put Saquon Barkley under the microscope.
We need a sponsor for the microscope company to sponsor this segment.
All right, break it down.
Saquon Barkley, does he deserve to be a first-round pick?
Yes. Does he deserve to be a first-round pick? Yes.
Does he deserve it?
I don't know how you quantify that.
Deserve has got nothing to do with it.
Right.
This isn't about deserving.
This is about banking on a great talent in a great situation.
I would say just barely.
I've got him 12th.
Who's got him higher than that?
I do.
I think I'm 10th.
I got him higher than that. You got him higher than 10th. I got him higher than that? I do I think I'm 10th I got him higher than that
You got him higher than 10th
I got him higher than 10th
Where do you have Saquon Barkley?
As far as
Are you talking about among running backs?
No, no, overall, overall
I've got him 8th in non-PPR
What about in PPR?
In PPR, I've got him 9th
Just putting wide receivers ahead of him? No, I put Kamara ahead of him Yeah, PPR, I've got him ninth Just putting wide receivers ahead of him?
No, I put Kamara ahead of him
Yeah, in PPR, I have him 15th
Barkley lower in PPR, that's interesting
I just, I, like, I think he's a very good pass catching back
He'll be good in that part of the game
But they have a lot of people to catch passes
Like, we think Evan Ingram's gonna be a top eight tight end, right?
No No Yes Top eight tight end, right? No.
Yes.
Top ten tight end.
Yes.
Okay.
And we think Odell Beckham is one of the top five wide receivers in the game.
And they're still going to throw the ball 80 times to Sterling Shepard.
I just don't know that he can match the top backs in terms of...
I think Melvin Gordon catches more passes than he does.
Melvin might.
But I don't know if a lot of other running backs will.
Kamara will.
McCaffrey will.
McKinnon will.
Le'Veon will.
McKinnon might.
David Johnson will.
I wouldn't be surprised if Zeke does this year.
I agree.
Gurley will.
If you think Zeke's going to catch more passes, then...
You're putting Saquon in the 40 to 50 catch range.
Yeah.
I think Zeke's there too.
Interesting.
Yeah, I think he could do a little bit better than that.
I'd put him in the 50 to 60.
And he's not without risk.
Every running back has risk.
But I mean –
Except LeGarrette Blount.
He has more risk than the other guys we're talking about right now.
We've not actually seen him do it against NFL competition.
Trivia question.
What is the most amount of rushing touchdowns that the Giants have had as a team over the last three years?
Six.
A5, B6, C7.
Six.
Seven.
Seven.
Six.
Dave is the winner. Yay. Great job, Dave. The Gi Seven. Seven. Six. Dave is the winner.
Yay.
Great job, Dave.
The Giants have not had more than six rushing backs.
And you know Jonathan Stewart's going to get a couple of those.
Three straight years.
Probably.
If he makes the team.
Yeah, no, there is some risk.
Let's take a look at the last five first-round running backs,
NFL draft first-round running backs.
Todd Gurley, in his rookie year, was fourth in non-PPR, eighth in PPR in 13 games.
He was awesome.
Melvin Gordon that same year was not even a top 40 running back because he did not score
one touchdown despite having more than 200 touches.
Following year, Ezekiel Elliott was the number two running back in fantasy.
Last year, Leonard Fournette was eighth in in non-PPR, 10th in PPR.
Christian McCaffrey was 15th in non-PPR and 11th in PPR.
McCaffrey, a different case.
I mean, we're going to get more than 117 carries from Barkley.
The only outright bust was Melvin Gordon.
And then became the first running back in NFL history to go from no touchdown to a double-digit touchdown season.
Touchdowns are weird.
I think Saquon's going to score at least one touchdown.
I think so, too.
I think he's in line potentially for 10.
I don't know.
I think he's going to get a lot of yards.
I'm very curious.
The Giants are going from the second-worst offensive team to the best.
It's crazy.
I mean, that's the thing.
They're not going to be the best.
But the Rams went worst to first, right?
They had to.
Was it worst in 2016?
They were definitely first.
They're going from Jeff Fisher to best.
That's what the Rams did.
And now the Giants are going to go McAdoo to best.
The Rams went from worst to first.
So can the Giants...
You look at the last two guys, at least.
Elliott took the Cowboys to the playoffs and the number one seed in the NFC.
Fournette took the Jaguars to the playoffs, best record in the division,
and a game away from the Super Bowl.
So a lot of things obviously happened to those two teams, clearly.
But you take pressure off your quarterback.
They follow the same formula, you know, improve the offensive line, get the run game.
And the quarterback all of a sudden looks a lot better.
So Eli should be better.
And we've talked about this, you know, from a fantasy perspective.
Eli has, as Heath just laid it out for you, one of the best receivers in football,
one of the top tight ends in fantasy, one of the best receivers in football, one of the top tight ends in fantasy,
one of the best complementary receivers,
when you talk about Sterling Shepard and Barkley,
this offense could clearly be a hell of a lot better,
especially if that left side of the offensive line
comes through like a lot of people are hoping.
So it could be a fun year for the Giants.
And Barkley, I think if that is the case,
he's going to deliver as a first-round pick.
It's going to be a fun reality show type thing.
Can you suck bad enough to not be good with these weapons?
Yeah, I know. It's true. I think the Giants have upgraded at least four of five, if not five of five, offensive line spots.
And just check this out.
The last two years, kind of fun, Dallas went from 31st in scoring.
There are 32 teams in the NFL.
They went from 31st to 5th after draft.
But theirs is an asterisk, though.
Because of Romo?
Yeah, Romo was hurt.
Yeah, that's true.
Right.
But Romo was hurt again the following year, right?
Or no?
Yes, but at least they had a plan in place.
They drafted a guy in the third round.
31st to 5th, and the Rams wasn't Gurley's first year.
It was his third year.
They went from 32nd to 1st.
So that's fun.
Could you look up how Jacksonville did from 2016 to 2017?
It's not going to be far off.
Jaguars went from 25th to scoring.
They were 5th.
25th to fifth.
That counts defensive points.
Obviously.
But a lot of it, though, if it's the Dallas formula
of try and control, if not dominate, time of possession,
and if you're winning, it puts teams in these fourth quarter
throwing situations where turnovers tend to occur.
And I think the key will be, you talked about them upgrading
almost five positions at them.
That means they're going to have five offensive linemen
that have never played with each other.
And continuity in the offensive line is...
Well, not exactly.
Not exactly, because Flowers going from left tackle to right tackle
will probably be better at right tackle.
They'll have the same center, most likely.
They will have three...
You know what?
They will maybe have, at the most, two holdovers
from last year. One of them will be playing a different position.
So yes, you know what, Heath? You're right.
It's basically a completely new offensive line in terms of
chemistry. I will take talent over what they
had last year. I'll leave it over last year. I just don't
know how much... Heath, you could have continuity.
You could take that continuity from a year ago.
You don't want bad continuity.
No. Alright, let's talk about bad continuity. No. All right.
Let's talk about what scares you about Saquon Barkley.
I think he said it, the lack of the experience,
just not seeing him produce on this level before.
But it's kind of hard to get past what his talent is.
Obviously, the measurables from the combine you know the they jump off the page and so he's got the chance to be successful if not a star
right away but it's a position that has a lot of volatility a lot of injuries and so you know
hopefully he's able to you know overcome that dalvin cook was a guy that had star written all
over him too he got off to a good start and then he got hurt so you know hopefully we we get 16
games of saquon barkley what he's capable of doing at the collegiate level to the NFL level.
But the last thing you want to do is take him over.
You said Melvin Gordon could have more receptions in a PPR league.
That could hurt you.
Take him over Fournette, who had a successful rookie season
and had an upgrade offensive line.
Take him over Camara, who's got –
You don't want to do this, you're saying.
You don't want to take him over.
That's what I'm saying.
This is the risk you take is, okay, you fall in love with what Barkley's upside could be,
which is totally understandable, and then you end up taking him over some of these other running backs
as well as passing on what will hopefully be better seasons for Julio Jones, A.J. Green,
Michael Thomas continuing to build on what he showed,
and some of those other receivers you're looking at at the back end of the first round.
And I almost think that that's another benefit here is that if you're taking sake one in late round one you're getting
another really good player in early round two so but i mean i don't think that this is a case where
you know goes for if you're taking two really good players at the end of round i mean you know
two guys that at least you know have done it i know like two two if you just go to receivers
at that spot which is something that we're going to see a lot i just i just don't think it's as
easy as saying well he can lose you your
league if you take him in round one.
Because I think you still get good
help. Plus, you've got the
I feel, we talked about this
Adam last week, there's a drop-off once you get to late
round four. If you're
picking late in round one, that means you're picking
early in round four.
You should be able to come out of that draft with Saquon
plus three other very nice players. So, with that logic, no player you take at the end of the first round can, you should be able to come out of that draft with Saquon plus three other very nice players to start your team.
With that logic, no player you take at the end of the first round can lose your league.
No, any player can lose your league in the first round,
but it's easier to swallow the pill of taking a Camara who could be that guy for you
or Julio who might have been that guy for some people last year
because you've got another first round caliber
player in early round two yeah all right so uh saquon barkley is going eighth overall he has
basically the same adp as kareem hunt i would not even hesitate to take kareem hunt over saquon
barkley same agreed yep no yeah all of us all right let's read some emails fantasy football
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Cooper from Sin City, Nevada.
Dear Ramsey, Melvin, Biersch, and Josh.
I got it.
They're Gordons.
They're Gordons.
Don't you think that he should have done Coopers?
His name is Cooper.
Dear Amari, hanging with Mr. Jonathan.
All right.
How do we feel?
Okay, he says, why do I feel, excuse me,
why do I feel like Jarek McKinnon is the new Lamar Miller?
Perpetual backup with good measurables and good pass-catching skills
who goes to a new team to be the workhorse,
and then it happens, disappoints.
Yeah, and he's just a top-20 running back for two years in a row,
and everybody hates him.
He's just not
giving you much on a week-to-week basis.
He's giving you consistently
a mess. He stayed healthy.
He could be.
I think
at least for me, it's the track record
of the coach as much
as the opportunity.
Lamar Miller had a great opportunity, and he didn't take full advantage of it.
To his point, he was fine.
He just wasn't.
He regressed going from the Dolphins to the Texans.
And let's be clear, Lamar Miller was a lot more productive in his first four years than
Jarek McKinnon has been.
Before going to Houston?
Yes.
Yeah.
He had about 3,000 yards rushing, 880 receiving.
Yeah, he got worse.
Yeah, really surprising.
I just don't get what happened.
He was averaging 4.6 yards per carry in Miami.
And McKinnon went to a better college too.
Where did McKinnon go?
Anywhere else.
Anywhere but Miami.
All right.
Mihai from a town where Crayola crayons are made.
Hornblows.
I don't get it.
No, it's a joke for five people.
Okay.
Adam's favorite kind of joke in the podcast.
Yep, the best inside jokes.
I made Dave laugh.
That's all I meant.
As long as Dave laughs, it's worth it.
All right, in a PPR league, which top three combination do you think
would be the most consistent quarterback stacks to target?
Do you think a quarterback stack strategy works,
which would be a quarterback-wide receiver combo?
I'm not sure I quite understand this question.
Yeah, I think it does work
um it's definitely more boom bust your team is i like it more in best ball formats when i know
that i have two or three other players that the week that they have a bad week i have something
else to kind of cover me but yes having drew breeze and michael th Thomas or Ben Roethlisberger and Antonio Brown.
Now, if you're talking about a full quarterback wide receiver tight end,
I probably wouldn't go that far.
That's too much.
And this basically revolves around the receivers.
So I agree with you on Brown and Roethlisberger.
Hopkins Watson could be especially good. The downside of that is Rodgers and Jordy Nelson.
Sure.
Ryan and Julio last year.
You could just go Kareem Hunt in the first, Tyree Kill in the second,
Travis Kelsey in the third, Sammy Watkins in the fifth.
Well, I'll tell you, we just did the two drafts for our pick-by-pick series,
and I drafted on the 2-3 turn after picking Todd Gurley, Tyree Kill,
and Travis Kelsey.
And when it came time to pick a quarterback, I was like,
I just don't want to take Patrick Mahomes.
I don't want to put all my eggs in that basket.
Yeah.
It's the kind of thing that's easier to do when you have a lot of leagues.
If you have one league, it might be tough to put all your eggs in that.
No, but I'll tell you, Adam, you ask a lot of old-time fantasy football players.
They say, oh, my God, I won my league with Steve Young and Jerry Rice.
I've heard that story time and time again.
It's boom bust.
If that team that you picked
hits,
you're tough to beat because every touchdown's worth two.
Do you go into a draft
targeting that? I never
ever have. No, but think about if you
are, you know what, I think Randy Moss has a chance to bounce
back in this trade to the Patriots.
And Tom Brady, hopefully he'll be okay and there's you know 25 touchdowns
of the 50 that brady threw again going back to the the best ball yes i i would just looking at
adp and knowing where the guys go and saying ah i could go there's in the sixth and there in the
eighth that's what i'm going to do but in a regular old fantasy league i don't go into my draft saying
i've got to get the quarterback to my number one receiver.
I won't shy away from it.
If it happens... You're probably a good test case with this, just based on how you
with your friendship strategy.
You could
clearly take
the two receivers
that you like. Let's say you take Adams and Cobb
and somewhere in between that, you took Rogers.
Adams, Cobb, and Rogers, yeah. If it happens, it happens. I never, let's say you take Adams and Cobb, and somewhere in between that you took Rodgers. Adams, Cobb, and Rodgers, yeah.
I mean, if it happens, it happens.
I never set out to do it, but I don't shy away from it.
If that quarterback is the best one available
and I have his wide receiver, I'll take him.
That sounds like the overriding sentiment.
No name or city, Dave.
Who do we got?
Who's next?
Frank from New York City.
Dear Arnold, Dolores, William, and Ford.
It's on HBO, Jamie.
You should know it.
Arnold, Dolores, William, and Ford.
No.
Westworld.
Westworld.
Never saw it.
Yeah, I don't love it.
I don't love it.
Yeah, I don't love it.
Just saw Marlon Mack go in the ninth round in a mock draft.
I know he's not a perfect product, but without competition, what's the deal?
Why isn't Marlon Mack round six or higher as a lead back?
The ninth round is way too late.
It's the shoulder injury, which they say is going to be fine.
He does have a little bit of competition,
and I still have some fear that DeMarco Murray is going to get signed the first day of training camp.
My bigger fear is that Robert Turbin or Kristen Michael become a thing.
What about the rookies?
No, I think the rookies are going to be a part of it,
but the bigger fear for me is that it's DeMarco Murray, Robert Turbin, Kristen Michael,
maybe Orleans Darkwell who's finally healthy from his surgery.
How many running backs does this team have?
No, but they just kick the tires on somebody to come in
and just become a problem for what could be a good situation.
I mean, look, Marlon Mack is, of the three guys I think that everybody's drafting,
the two rookies and him, he's the one with the most upside.
And so if his shoulder's right, if he does get more work,
last year we talked about this a lot.
When he had 10 or more touches, he gave you 10 or more fantasy points.
It was rare.
I think it was three or four times over the course
of the season, but they've improved their
offensive line. If the quarterback, as we know, is
right, that's a pretty good offense.
There's a lot to like about Marlon Mack.
I think he said it best. Round nine is too late.
Round six may be too early for some people.
I understand that, but he should be closer to
round six than round nine. Frank Reich and the coaches
in Indianapolis have already said that
they're going to use multiple running backs.
And Reich came from Philadelphia where they used
multiple running backs. But you can still get one good guy out of it.
I mean, last year when Ajayi went to Philadelphia,
he was good. He wasn't great. But I don't know if you're going to get one great
guy out of it. And
I've said these exact words before.
It kills me because that offensive
line is so good and that passing game is so
amazing. But this is
a puzzle piece run game. Altogether together it's going to look good but each guy separately is not going to help you out
but next i do i do like naheem hines as a late round guy especially in ppr yeah i'll take jordan
wilkins i think just based on size he's the best bet there too uh and he's a great late round
flyer like there's no risk in taking him. He might stay healthier longer than Marlon Max.
Next, Sterling from a small town in Minnesota.
10-team Dynasty PPR League.
Big value on wide receiver because we have three wide receivers and three flex spots.
Goodness.
So he wants to trade for Zach Ertz.
Sterling from Eden Prairie
has picks
104 and 108
in the first round, right? He's got the fourth and the eighth
picks. He wants to trade
the first and
second picks of round two,
next year's second,
and next year's third
for Zach Ertz.
Yikes. So four picks, none of them first rounders, for Zach Ertz. Yikes.
So four picks, none of them first-rounders,
for Zach Ertz as a 10-team dynasty league.
If he can get that, do it.
Yeah?
Think it's good?
Yes, absolutely.
So it's two picks in the second round this year?
11 and 12 overall.
That's easy.
Plus next year's second and next year's third. And he says he's got two first-round picks,
so he could theoretically trade
one of those picks back if he wanted to.
Yeah, I mean
I think it's the move that I would make.
I do think, who would be
dopey enough to make this deal?
Somebody rebuilding. Yeah, it's somebody rebuilding and that's
a pretty good hole. And you could also turn
those two seconds into a late
first potentially.
Yeah, it sounds like a lot of work.
You just talked about somebody trading back to the second round.
Right, right, right.
So he can make that trade with somebody else, the person they trade with.
Cool.
Let's do our last email.
Dave from Flint, Michigan.
Dave says –
No, Chicago.
Oh, sorry.
I'm from Chicago.
I am now only in my second year of being in a league for fantasy football.
I have, of course, a ton of questions.
I was in a mock draft recently at the seventh pick in a PPR 12-team draft.
Seventh pick, PPR 12 teams.
I did horribly, and I realized I need all the help I can get.
Are there any tactics you can recommend or any suggestions you can make
to help us newbies in this matter?
I will be drafting in a 12-team PPR, but I don't know which pick I have.
Basic advice for an inexperienced fantasy player in a PPR league.
Your kicker is your last pick.
Your defense is your next last pick.
Your quarterback is your third from last pick.
Prioritize wide receiver and pass-catching running backs more,
obviously, in a PPR league.
You might actually want to take more than four wide receivers.
It sounds weird coming from me, but
it might be a good idea.
If you want to feel safe, comfortable with your team,
one running back
and one wide receiver starting your team
is never a bad idea. It doesn't matter which order.
And expect most of the people
in your league to do the same.
And wait on quarterback.
And you should be good. And if you don't get one of the stud tight ends league to do the same. And wait on quarterback. Yes. And you should be good.
Excellent.
There you go.
And if you don't get one of the stud tight ends early, take two later.
Beautiful.
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