Fantasy Football Today - 06/26: Early Breakouts; QBs With Great Weapons (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: June 26, 2018

QB Debate (3:20): Who has the most upside out of Derek Carr, Marcus Mariota and Eli Manning? And who has the most downside? And we'll reveal what last year's stats say about Manning and Patrick Mahomes (11:20). Are they practically guaranteed to be #1 QBs? ... Reviewing a draft strategy that Jamey recently used picking first in a 12-team league (16:26). We kinda like it and we think you will too ... Early breakouts include Jerick McKinnon (30:00), basically every rookie RB, Stefon Diggs (36:50), Amari Cooper (39:50) and Trey Burton (43:00) ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Breakouts, everybody. An early look at 2018 Breakouts with Jamie Eisenberg.

I am Adam Azer. I want to thank you very much for listening to the Fantasy Football Today podcast. If you're new to the show, we welcome you. We've been doing this for nine or ten years now, and we enjoy it more and more every single day. Today we're going to do an upside poll with three quarterbacks. We're going to talk about ACL injuries and the history of players coming back from them, look at a team that Jamie recently drafted, and, of course, look at the breakouts. Jamie, I think breakouts are the most important part of fantasy football.

It is hard to win if you don't have one or two breakout players. I would agree, and it's always an interesting conversation, I guess, about which players are qualified as sleepers and which players qualify as breakouts. I view breakouts as players that you're definitely drafting, probably in the round three to seven range, and guys that have the ability to take that next step in their careers or return to a level that they haven't had for a few years as well. And I think for me, one of the big differences between sleepers and breakouts, the expectations are higher for breakouts.

So it could be about where you draft them, but I think you could have a first-round breakout or a second-round breakout. Todd Gurley was a second-round pick for a lot of people, maybe early third, but he was clearly a breakout last year. So I think it's just a matter of the breakouts are going to put up bigger numbers than the sleepers. Not necessarily, but I think the word you used was apropos, the expectations. Because you could still have, like, there are a lot of people, I'm not a lot of people, but I'm sure there are several people that had Alvin Kamara as a sleeper last year,

and he put up breakout type of numbers. Right. So I think it's just kind of the word you use, expectations. And I want to stick with that word for a second because I have some high expectations for you to know when we started doing this podcast. Because if, in fact, we missed what could be a 10-year anniversary, I think that's something that we should celebrate. I think it is a 10-year anniversary, I think that's something that we should celebrate. I think it is a 10-year anniversary. Well, you have the ability to go back and check when we did our first one as at least a trio.

Well, that's the thing. Do we start from when I came on or from when Dave and Jamie started? I appreciate you talking to me as if I'm not here. Sorry, I thought you were Heath. I think it should be at least when the three of us started. We can have a second anniversary when Heath started. God willing, that's 10 years from when he did. But I think we should celebrate the – Dave and I certainly have passed 10 years at this point of us when we first did the first version of this show.

Then I think this is our 10-year anniversary because i i started at the website in 2009 but that's what i'm saying if we have an upcoming 10-year anniversary yeah i think it's this year we should prepare for it okay all right 10th anniversary we're gonna give a whole bunch of stuff away uh hopefully we'll give you away we're finishing at 10 all right let's do some twitter polls which of these three quarterbacks has the most upside? Which of these three quarterbacks has the most upside? Derek Carr, Marcus Mariota, or Eli Manning? Carr, Mariota, or Manning? What do you think?

What do I think or what do I think the voting was? Let's start with what you think. I think it's Eli Manning. And who do you think the Twitter... I had 1,100 votes on this. Probably the young guy who was drafted the highest, and that's Mariota. Yeah, 55% Mariota.

27% Derek Carr. 18% Eli Manning. And you think Manning has the most upside? I do. I think, first first off i'm trying to get it quickly but i mean we've talked about this a lot we talked about it yesterday or on our last show when we were looking at odell beckham and uh you know putting him under a microscope i think you just have to go with the the thought process of if beckham does what he's capable of

doing if evan ingram and sterling Shepard are quality, complementary options, and if Saquon Barkley delivers like he's capable of behind a better offensive line, Eli Manning could be a top-12 quarterback. And so I don't have him in front of me, so I'll just kind of, I guess, paraphrase. His numbers, Manning's numbers in the three healthy years of Odell Beckham, I think it's like 4,300 passing yards, 30 touchdowns, 16 interceptions.

I'll tell you where he finished in those three years. He finished as the number eight quarterback in 2014, the number seven quarterback in 2015, but the number 20 quarterback in 2016. And that was with Odell Beckham being a top five wide receiver and having 1,367 yards and 10 touchdowns. That was 2016. That was Sterling Shepard's rookie year. Terrible offensive line, but he was number 20.

And it's really a matter of, is he done? Is Eli Manning done being a good quarterback? He's been a pretty bad quarterback each of the last two years. But people do forget 2014 and 2015, Beckham's first two years, Manning was a top eight quarterback. Now that's not including anyone who has retired, so I don't know if he was officially a top eight, but he was definitely top ten.

Definitely top ten. I mean, just stretch it to top 12. So that's a number one guy. No one's drafting him in that range. He's probably going to be maybe him or Carr, but they're both going to be drafted after Mariota. At least the way I would assume it, based on especially the Twitter poll results.

Well, and now I'll give you the second Twitter poll. Who has the most downside? And this one I agree with. It's definitely Manning. 68%. I mean, we've seen the downside. 68% of the vote for Manning. We've seen the downside for both these guys. All three of these guys. I don't think any of them have been as bad as Manning was last year, though.

Manning was the number 22 quarterback last year. Carr was number 20. It's not a huge difference, I guess. No, but the expectations for Carr and Mariota were much higher last season. Mariota was 20. Carr was 17. Well, I personally agree with that. I think Manning is the most downside.

I think Carr is the least upside. In fact, in a year with all these amazing quarterbacks or all these exciting quarterbacks, I never think about drafting Derek Carr because, Jamie, I just don't know that Carr can go off this year. What do you think? Well, it depends on how much you buy into John Gruden. If you buy into Gruden and what he's shown at times with quarterbacks, obviously that year with Rich Cannon was very good. It's hard to say did Carr fall off last year coming back from the broken leg? Was Amari Cooper that bad?

This was supposed to be one of the better offensive lines in the NFL. They weren't great. There's just one of those situations where I think all three of these guys where they're probably going to be drafted, which is, you know, late as number two guys, they could, two of them could, you know, I think finish as top 15, top 12 guys. But yeah, I agree with you. Carr just isn't, you know, very attractive in a division that, you know, could be once again loaded with a lot of good defenses. That said, in 2016, he was the number nine quarterback in fantasy, but he didn't really put up huge numbers. Less than 4,000 yards, 28 touchdowns, six interceptions. He hasn't had a 4,000-yard season yet.

If he played 16 games in 2016, he would have had a 4,000-yard season. But it doesn't compare to what Eli Manning did in his two very good seasons, 14 and 15, he had like 4,300 yards. And then Mariota is very interesting, Jimmy. And when we're done with this, I want to talk about the weapons around Eli and the weapons around one of your breakouts, Patrick Mahomes, and what it means for fantasy quarterbacks. But Mariota, does he have that big upside?

He was the 13th best quarterback in 2016. In 15 games, he threw for 3,426 yards. He rushed for another 349. Does he have that upside? He faced a very easy schedule that year and really regressed last year with more interceptions than touchdowns. What do you think about Mariota? Well, first off, last year there was some thought. Our colleague Pete Prisco talked about this after visiting the Titans during training camp that he thought Mariota didn't look healthy coming back from the leg injury the year before. He said he talked to some beat writers about that,

and they kind of agreed with him. And he didn't look, I think, the same until the end of the season when he looked better. His stats may not have reflected that, but he looked better. The other part of it was the thought going in with Mariota last year was, okay, draft Corey Davis, sign Eric Decker, draft Tywon Taylor, hopefully continue production from Rashard Matthews and Delaney Walker, and none of those things really were ever on the same page. Matthews was hurt. Walker was fine, but as we know, Corey Davis didn't live up to the hype.

Decker looked like an old receiver, and Taylor was kind of lost in the shuffle a little bit. Also, John New Smith, another guy that they drafted. The thing I think if you're buying into Mariota this year is all the reports are he looks back to what he was, I think, prior to the leg injury. And their offensive coordinator, we talk about this from time to time, Adam, about offensive coordinators that get promoted to head coaches and especially guys that didn't call plays. Matt LaFleur is a guy that is coming into a situation where he worked under

two great offensive coordinators his last two jobs. He worked under Kyle Shanahan in Atlanta as a quarterback's coach. he worked under two great offense coordinators his last two jobs he worked under kyle shanahan in atlanta as a quarterback's coach he worked under sean mcveigh um in for the rams those two guys called plays so is leflore's offense going to be the same as those two offenses and if that's the case then mariotta's got a chance to you know when leflore was in atlanta it was the mvp season for ryan and last year you know jared goff took a dramatic leap as we saw. So that's something I think you could point to and say, okay, maybe this is the guy that can help Mario to take the next step. But we're buying into, I think to a certain degree, Corey Davis.

Especially if you ask Keith, he's very fond of Rashard Matthews, and he's been very consistent. 30 games with the Titans, 15 of those, he's been 10 or more fantasy points. That's a good track record. And Delaney Walker is, I think, a quality tight end. But I think Mariota, and I know you're going to get to Mahomes in terms of weapons, Mariota doesn't have exactly dynamic weapons. He has good weapons, just not great ones.

So how do you rank Eli Manning, forgetting upside and downside, how do you rank Manning, Carr, and Mariota? Manning, Mariota, Carr. Okay, you have Manning, Carr, and Mariota? Manning, Mariota, Carr. Okay, you have Manning 15th, you have Mariota 19th, you have Derek Carr 20th. If it were a four-point-per-passing touchdown league, would you take Mariota over Eli Manning? Yeah, just with the rushing. I think you have to. Okay. All right, so this is interesting stuff, right? I'm trying to find quarterbacks who have the weapons that Eli Manning and – I wasn't planning necessarily on talking about Patrick Mahomes.

If you want to read all of Jamie's breakouts, they're available on the website. But I picked a few. But Mahomes is one of them. And you have Mahomes ahead of all those guys. You have him 12th. All right, so I looked for quarterbacks that had two top 12 pass catchers. So either two top 12 wide receivers or one top 12 wide receiver and one top 12 tight end. And there were two of them.

Well, there were more than two, but there were two that had just that, two top 12 wide receivers or tight ends last year. Russell Wilson was the number one quarterback in fantasy. And believe it or not, we really shouldn't count this guy because it's almost by default. Andy Dalton was number 16 at quarterback. He had A.J. Green and Tyler Croft was the number 11 tight end in non-PPR. He was 15th in PPR. I don't think that really helps this argument.

Obviously, he just finished there by default. Now, we had three more quarterbacks who had two top 12 pass catchers. So, wait. Keenum didn't qualify with Thielen and Rudolph? Almost. Okay. So, he did. Yes, I included Keenum, and I actually added in his Sam Bradford's fantasy points, too.

Oh, okay. But Keenum counted, and he's in another category. I added in his Sam Bradford's fantasy points too Oh okay But Keenum counted and he's in another category He's in a category of Top 12 wide receiver Top 12 tight end And a running back who caught 50 or more passes Which we expect from the Chiefs And wouldn't be a surprise from the Giants

Right Those quarterbacks were Tom Brady, number two. James White had more than 50. Alex Smith, number five. Phillip Rivers was the number seven quarterback. In non-PPR, he had a top 12

tight end. Matthew Stafford basically made the cut. Golden Tate and Marvin Jones were 12 and 13 in PPR. Theo Riddick had 53 catches. Matthew Stafford was the number eight quarterback. And then the Vikings quarterbacks combined to be the number 13 quarterback, one fantasy point behind number 12.

So basically every quarterback that had the type of weapons we expect the Giants and the Chiefs to have this year finished in the top 13, except for Andy Dalton, and we really don't count him. So that is Russell Wilson, Tom Brady. Just let me get the complete list here. Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Alex Smith, Phillip Rivers, Matthew Stafford, and the Vikings. Pretty cool, huh?

Yeah. I mean, I think when you look at Mahomes, his upside is probably Alex Smith, I guess. You said number five? Yeah, he was number five, yeah. And Smith didn't have a player of Sammy Watkins' potential. But you also have the same scenario with Eli. And Eli could have four guys that are, you know, in relative good standing from a fantasy perspective.

So, I mean, you probably look at it with a lot of teams. You know, I mean, let's say, you know, just a lesser-known quarterback that just popped in my head was Alex Smith with the Redskins. Because if Jordan Reed's healthy, if Jamison Crowder does what he did at least two years ago to build off that, and Chris Thompson could catch 50 passes.

Yeah, but he wouldn't have a top-12 wide receiver. Oh, I'm sorry, top-12. Excuse me. I apologize. So it's a fairly short list. Actually, there were five of them or six of them. I said Wilson, Brady. Man, I keep forgetting. It was a lot of numbers.

You know who could qualify if one of the running backs catches 50 passes and wins his pride in the offense? It's the Colts. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Wilson, Brady, Smith, Rivers, Stafford, Keenum, all top 13. So Keenum plus Bradford, top 13. All right, so hey, listen, there's another way to get Jamie's breakouts,

sleepers, and busts, and that would be with the newsletter. I've got the newsletter. It just came into my inbox about an hour ago. And if you want to get that CBSSports.com, the Fantasy Football Today newsletter, you go to CBSSports.com slash FFTDaily. CBSSports.com slash fftdaily. cbssports.com slash fftdaily. Also, our leagues are launching. Jamie, you got to play on CBS Sports, right, man?

If you're a real fantasy football player, you got to play on our site. Yeah. Thank you. Yes, I agree. Well, football, the product is launched, so we've got all this great content around it. But there's a lot of things that we want to tell you about. It's better and better for dynasty leagues. I do get a lot of questions.

Hey, can I do a dynasty league? Yes, of course you can. You can trade future draft picks up to three years. You can do multiple drafts. You can do a dynasty. You can do your regular draft plus a rookie draft. We've got revamped league history that you're going to really like and in-app commissioner tools. Commissioners can now run their own league on the go.

Add drop players, edit lineups, all on the app. So I know you guys wanted that and you've got that. If you want to start, if you want to sign up right now for a league, cbssports.com slash fft. Real fantasy football players know you've got to play on cbssports.com. cbssports.com slash fft. All right, so another thing we're doing on the website is a pick-by-pick analysis where Dave and Jamie or Dave and Heath or Jamie and Heath or Dave, Jamie, and Heath, they do a draft, they go pick-by-pick.

And, Jamie, you constructed a team out of the one spot, starting with Todd Gurley. It was a really interesting team that I didn't really like at first. Then I thought about something I said on a mock draft podcast episode we did a couple months ago and now I think I love it. Now I think I love it. I would change one pick but if I could change one pick, I would love it even more, Jamie. You want to tell us about your team from the one

spot? Sure. And it's interesting that you're saying you'd change one pick because have you seen the draft or you just saw my team? I just saw your team and I can imagine. I forget if I shared you the whole doc. We did it in a Google Doc, so I don't know if I shared the document with you. No, but I can imagine there was a guy available.

Okay, I'm curious what you're going to say. So, yes, first off, this is the first version that we're doing of this. We'll do a second version once training camp starts, the preseason, to give you an updated version of this. I think most of our listeners will know that we've done this for the last, um, five or six years, uh, uh, in, in, um, conjunction with our host. I don't know the

anniversary of when that started. Um, but, uh, uh, yeah, so I had the one pick, uh, non PPR. Um, the stories will be on the site this week and i took todd girley and as we talked about you know once you get to that round two three turn you're kind of left waiting for i don't know if it's best available talent but that's kind of the best you know way to describe it and uh i took uh with my first five picks i'll let adam read the team but i'm sorry with with two of my first four picks you something that I try to avoid almost every time I draft is taking a quarterback and a tight end. But those two guys are Travis Kelsey, who I have the number one running back preseason, number one quarterback, number two tight end,

and those three studs are now hopefully going to carry my team. And then everything else, which you'll hear, is a lot of mixing and matching. I will say that the other player in the top four picks is Tyreek Hill. So assuming that he's my quote-unquote number one receiver. That's the one I would have changed. I think I would have gone T.Y. Hilton there. Yeah, he was gone. Oh, he was gone.

Yeah. Oh, he's usually there. He's usually there. Yeah. No, Heath Cummings, as you know, very fond of T.Y. Hilton. And my preference would be, we talk about the top nine receivers. It's the usual suspects, Antonio Brown,

DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Julio Jones, Odell Beckham, A.J. Green, Keenan Allen, Devontae Adams, and Mike Evans. To me, those are the top nine. The next three guys I think that you're going to see come off the board in some order, Doug Baldwin, T.Y. Hilton, those are the top nine. The next three guys, I think, that you're going to see come off the board in some way, some order, Doug Baldwin, T.Y. Hilton, and Tyreek Hill. I like Baldwin

the best. He's usually there, but he was gone. When I made the picks, I didn't even realize I'm now, as we talked about yesterday, or again, our last show was a question about stacking teams. Now I'm locked into the Chiefs. I'm locked in with a change because of the quarterback,

which could still be good. I mean, I don't think anybody looks at those two guys as standalone options and say, okay, they're going to be bad, or at least huge drop-offs. But as a duo, I'm now sinking my roster in Patrick Mahomes' hands. Yeah, a little bit, and That kind of stood out to me. I'm sorry if you said this. What was the scoring here? It's non-PPR. It's the typical format that we go

about. Six points for passing touchdowns and one point for every 10 yards rushing or receiving. Okay. We've got Gurley, Kelsey, Tyreek Hill, Aaron Rodgers, and then Alshon Jeffrey in the fifth round. Corey Davis in the sixth round.

In rounds seven and eight, which were not back-to-back picks. They were 24 picks apart or 23 pick, whatever it is. Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones got the Packers backfield. And then you went Randall Cobb in round nine. Go Pack Go backfield. And then you went Randall Cobb in round nine. Go Pack Go. Yeah. And then rounds 10 and 11, you have the Colts backfield, not Marlon Mack. You have Jordan Wilkins and Naeem Hines.

And then you backed up Todd Gurley in round 12 with John Kelly. You took the Vikings and Mason Crosby. So your team is Aaron Rodgers, Todd Gurley plus his handcuff, plus Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams in the Packers backfield, Wilkins and Hines in the Colts backfield. Clearly, right now, you only have one solid running back. It's Gurley. You have two Packers and two Colts.

Yep. Your wide receivers are Tyree Kill, Alshon Jeffrey, Corey Davis, and Randall Cobb. Tyree Kill, Alshon Jeffrey, Corey Davis, and Randall Cobb. Tyreek Hill, Alshon Jeffrey, Corey Davis, and Randall Cobb. And your tight end is Travis Kelsey. So I like it. I really do. I like it more and more because everybody knows if you play fantasy football, if you play it the right way, your team in week eight, forget about week 16,

week eight is going to look a lot different than the team you drafted. So you've got studs. You play the waiver wire, fill in the blanks. You don't even need a great starter at every spot because you've got elite players at three positions. I like it, Jamie. I think it's a gutsy strategy. If I had five teams, I wouldn't do this with all five, but I'd do it with one or two. I like it a lot. Yeah. The plus side is what you mentioned. Your waiver wire is going to be your

best friend. And I'm in a situation where I'm most likely not going to cut John Kelly, just with the thought of hopefully that Rams running back is my guy all season long. I'm hopeful that of the three main Packers running backs, I have one of the best ones with Williams or Jones. And then I'm pretty confident, and I know we talked about this with the busts on our last show. Yes, I consider Jeffrey a bust at the start of the fifth round. I think that was a good spot for him, given the receivers were off the board.

And you can, again, look at the way we did the draft once it was all published. I'm fairly certain that one of Jeffrey, Davis, or Cobb, and I don't know if we talked about Cobb, what his per-game numbers were with Aaron Rodgers. He would have been 96 catches, 966 yards, and six touchdowns. If you prorate his numbers over the seven games they were together. So without Jordy Nelson there to begin with, I think Cobb has big bounce back potential. I got him around nine.

And so if Rodgers does what he's typically done when healthy, Gurley does what he did last year, Kelsey does what he's done the last couple seasons, Tyree killed the first two seasons of his career, those four guys are locked in. And if you want to substitute Hilton or Doug Baldwin because those are the guys in that range, feel free. I agree with you. There's a lot to like about doing it. I just don't love it myself personally just because I like to have a little bit more flexibility besides two Colts guys, two Packers guys.

I'd rather have a little bit of a different variety to choose from. But, again, it could easily work if those three guys do what they're capable of. Those four guys do what they've been capable of doing. So if you want to see the entire pick-by-pick, you can catch that on the website on cbssports.com slash fantasy. It's not out as of now. We're recording on Tuesday afternoon. It will be out within the coming days. Jamie, you can out as of now. We're recording on Tuesday afternoon. It will be out within the

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Nick Chubb has a chance to get the bulk of the early down work. According to ESPN's Pat McMahon. And according to ESPN's John Kime, it would be surprising if Darius Geist does not begin the season as the starting running back. Every day, week, whatever, we're going to get rookie running back backfield updates. I'm just going to take the approach of let's just wait and see

and not react every time we get a report. But I do, Jamie, think that the Cleveland situation is particularly interesting, and we have talked about it a lot. But that does seem like a situation where if one guy does emerge, you could have a sleeper or a breakout on your hands. I think, you know, we sort of touched on it with the sleeper breakout conversation that if you're looking for not the same player, not the same skill set,

but the same situation, and I think skill set, but the same situation. And I think I mentioned this on a previous podcast. To me, Nick Chubb feels the most like Alvin Kamara, just based on where he's going to be on the depth chart to open the season comparatively to where he could finish. Because like you said, could be sleeper, could be breakout, however you want to qualify it. But Chubb is going to be third.

I know this report says starting, but the last report we heard on this was Carlos Hyde's a starter. So Duke Johnson's in his role. If Carlos Hyde is a week one starter, similar to what happened in New Orleans where the veteran guy isn't the best guy, or at least one of the veteran guys isn't the best guy, the rookie could step in there and be a star. Yeah, and like you said, he's not the same player. Chubb is not the same player as Kamara. No. He's not going to be a pass catcher or anything.

But on the flip side of that, if you're looking for the Latavius Murray comparison, Not the same player. Chubb is not the same player as Kamara. No. He's not going to be a pass catcher or anything. But on the flip side of that, if you're looking for the Latavius Murray comparison, Carlos Saez is that guy. Signed as a free agent. Goes to a team where he expects to be the guy. And Cleveland a la Minnesota drafts a running back in the second round that probably has a little bit more upside depending on how you want to chop it up. Right. And then that guy gets hurt, and all of of a sudden the veterans back in the good graces of fantasy owners again so i was going to do an acl segment but since i since heath and i like to get

into it over julian edelman i think i'll save that for the thursday show which i'll be doing with heath cummings jamie is going on a little bit of a vacation. All right, a little break in the action before training camps open and we start going intense here at CBS Sports. Yeah, I still might be able to hop on with you over the next couple weeks, but I'm not with three kids, especially a newborn. I'm not going anywhere far. How are the kids? Kids are great.

Thank you. How's the wife? The wife is even better. Thank you. How's the wife? The wife is even better. Thank you. How are you, Jamie? I'm ready for two weeks off. How is your lovely wife? She's doing great.

Yes. I highly anticipate seeing her sometime soon. Yeah, she's awesome. She and I were watching Family Guy last night, and we were laughing very hard. So that was fun. We love to laugh, Jamie. We love to laugh, Jamie. We love to laugh, unlike all the other people out there. That is a good quality.

So I looked at ACL injuries for quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers over the last three seasons and how those guys did the next year, when they suffered the injury, what it means. It's giving me a touch of hesitation on Edelman just because he is older, but he's also already back and practicing, which is a good sign. But we'll get into all of that. Jamie's breakouts.

So Mahomes is on that list. I will say this, though, and I want to reiterate it. I know we're going to probably get the news you may have by the time you get to your next podcast because I've done it a lot. It's very similar to Ezekiel Elliott. If you are drafting now dynasty startup dynasty whatever the case may be don't hesitate to pull the trigger maybe around earlier than you would on edelman because if the suspension is reduced or for whatever reason overturned you may have gotten yourself a steal absolutely and i'll look

up the stat exactly but i think I know it was all but one of The receivers who have caught 90 or more passes in the last five years Have been top 17 in PPR The only one that wasn't was Golden Tate And if he plays 16 games I expect Edelman to catch 90 passes But there's some things I saw

In the research that gives me a little bit of pause About his performance But we don't have any pause about the performance of Jamie's breakouts, and the list will change as we get closer to the start of the season. But right now, on June 26th, Jarek McKinnon is one of your breakouts. So let's start with Jamek, Jarek McKinnon. I mean, he's one of my favorite guys. I think we've talked about this a lot. I have him ranked as a top 12 running back in both standard and both non-PPR and PPR. If you could believe, I actually have him lower by one spot in PPR because I put Christian McCaffrey ahead of him. At the 11 spot, I have him 11 in non-PPR.

I just think the offense that he's stepping into, the track record of Kyle Shanahan speaks for itself. We had the email in our last show about is he Lamar Miller, a guy going from one team to the next. I know the question said back up to starter, but Miller was a starter. McKinnon still has a lot to prove, and you're drafting him, at least I am, based on hope. But I like what Shanahan's done. Again, you can look at the whole track record, but just the last three guys he's worked with,

Devontae Freeman, smaller running back, similar build to McKinnon. He was great in Atlanta. And last year, Carlos Hyde. He got, I think it was 50-plus catches out of Carlos Hyde. He did, but as I've brought this up before, most of those catches were before Jimmy Garoppolo started playing quarterback. Garoppolo did not really throw to the running backs. That's a small sample, but it did happen.

There's the report this offseason, their first practice together. Garoppolo was locked in on McKinnon. So I think that's a byproduct of Kyle Shanahan getting his hands on Garoppolo and expanding his whole use of the field and skill set. So I'm fairly confident that the track record of Shanahan will be a little bit better. And think about where Garoppolo has come from. Tom Brady throwing to the running backs,

that Patriots offense was basically as good for running back pass catchers as any. You think he gets the goal line work, McKinnon? But who else is there? Yeah, yeah, I know. It's not, and again, it's not like Shanahan didn't use a smaller back before. Devontae Freeman, they're almost identical in size. Opportunity

is so important in fantasy football. He obviously has a big opportunity. He would have to be a bust. He would have to be like Lamar Miller. Or get hurt, which could happen because he's smaller. Getting hurt, yeah. But he would have to be like Lamar Miller, which would be just like a guy who gets you like seven, eight fantasy points

in non-PPR every week, maybe four more in PPR, and is just fine. Unless he just outright loses his job, which is probably not going to happen. All right, Jamie has, to sum it up, every rookie running back on his breakouts list. I love him. Yeah. I really do. Yeah, so other than Saquon Barkley, which is going to be a first-round pick,

you pretty much like five or six. How many rookie running backs are you excited about this year? Aside from Barkley? Let's include him. Barkley, one. Barkley, Geis, Penny, Freeman, Jones, and Carrion.

The only ones I really don't like are the two Georgia guys, and that's not Freeman, Jones, and Carrion. And Carrion? The only ones I really don't like are the two Georgia guys, and that's not a Florida bias, I promise you. I just think, you know, Michelle landed in a spot where he's going to share work with the Patriots and the same thing with Chubb, but Chubb to me has sleeper appeal because of where he's being, where you can draft him.

And your second favorite is Geis, right? Yeah, in non-PPR it's Geis, in PPR it's Penny I just think Penny will be a little bit more involved in the passing game Given who the Redskins have with Chris Thompson But I think the report early on of Geis only being a first and second down guy Are a little bit overblown I think he could be a 30-35 catch guy Which would put him well within the range of what he should be able to do otherwise

As a solid number two running back. All right, let me just see if I could figure out who I'm not excited about. No, let me just play devil's advocate. That's a better way of putting it. Sure. All right, Ronald Jones. Let's start there. I thought he was more of a pass-catching guy,

not an every-down-back coming out of college. So is he equipped to handle 15 or more – 20-ish touches, 18 to 20 touches a week? Is he equipped to? Yes. Will he? I mean, look at the guys they have on their roster. I mean, is Peyton Barber going to take him off the field a lot? Jacquez Rogers? Charles Sims could be an annoyance in the

passing game. You know, I think he's probably going to be 13 to 15 carries a week. 3 to 5 catches a week. You know, if things go right with his offense, obviously now we have a little bit of a hole with Winston being out of there.

If Fitzpatrick is okay in those first three games, Jones, I think, is kind of somebody that now toes the line a little bit from where he was, which, in my opinion, was a number two running back. I'm curious of Dave's opinion. I don't think we talked to him about this. You can ask him if you're able to

because you and I did the Winston podcast. If Dave has changed his opinion on Jones, who was at least following the draft up to this point, his number two rookie running back. He still is, at least in the rankings I'm seeing. Okay. Look, Jones is a big—he's 5'11".

He's not like a little scat back or anything. But I thought his appeal was that he'd be very good in the passing game. And maybe it's both. Maybe it's both. All right, so then let me play devil's advocate on Rashad Penny. That is a team much like the Giants. The Seahawks have not been able to run the ball. I don't think they're going to have a good offensive line.

Is Penny just in a bad spot? Chris Carson, I mean, Chris Carson's not bad. Is Penny in a bad spot? He could be, but I think that the Seahawks' offensive line will be better than we've seen the last couple of years. You know, I wouldn't discount the move that they made to get Dwayne Brown last year from the Texans. I think they got him week seven, so you get a full offseason, full season with them.

I think signing DJ Fluker will help, you know, at right tackle. So the two tackles should be better. I think he's a guard, Jamie Fluker. Are they playing him a tackle? I don't know what I saw. I could be wrong. I think he's a guard, Jamie Fluker. Are they playing him a tackle? I don't know what I saw. I could be wrong. I think he's going to be a guard. For whatever reason, I do this a lot

because there were a lot of expectations and they've been terrible. I always confuse DJ Fluker and Eric Flowers and their positions. Oh, yeah, yeah. Flowers, tackle, Fluker, guard, yeah. Yeah, okay. So he's going to be a guard.

But I do think that the line will be better. And I think he'll be involved in the passing game. I know they have, you know, C.J. Proseis and J.D. McKissick, you know, that can handle some of that. But it's hard to overlook what he did in college. And I know that that's a conference that produces, you know, a lot of points. And, you know, he's coming from a team that the year before had a 2,000-yard rusher as well. But I just think Rashad Penny's upside, his skill set, his frame, his speed,

there's a lot to like about him. Clearly the Seahawks made the move. They were aggressive with it and taken the first run. All right, so Stefan Diggs is one of your breakouts. And I'm sort of a Stefan Diggs guy. I'm a believer in Stefan Diggs. I think he's better than Thielen. And honestly, Jamie, I don't know why I feel that way. I just do. I think he's a more talented player. He was off to such a good start last year, Stefan Diggs,

and then he got injured. He had like 93 or more yards in three of his first four games. Then he got hurt in week five. He missed week six and seven and just sort of came back to like a messy, timeshare-y situation with the two wide receivers, Jarek McKinnon, Kyle Rudolph, all catching passes

and a new quarterback. So, you know, he overlapped a little bit with Keenum, but quarterback changed from the beginning of the year. Anyway, tell me why you have Diggs.

Tell me why you have Diggs as a breakout. Do you like him better than Thielen? And then I'm going to blow your mind with a spooky stat about Kirk Cousins. I like him better than Thielen in non-PPR. I still think Thielen's going to end up catching more passes. But I mean, Diggs has yet to have a thousand yard season. I think that's a byproduct of him not staying healthy. I think we'll see him take the next step. You look at Cousins and what his track record has been with slot receivers, and remember he's more of the slot guy than Thielen is. We'll see how that changes now maybe with Kendall Wright

as part of the three receiver sets there. But I just think that Diggs had a lot of splash plays last year that maybe overlook some of his production. It makes him look a little bit better than maybe he was, but I do think that this is a guy that's trending in the right direction. So he had a good year last year, and I think he has a chance to be better with Cousins just because I think Cousins will be a little bit more consistent,

a little bit more accurate, and I think help him, again, take that next step. Oh, my goodness, everybody. Kirk Cousins has never produced a top 20 wide receiver. Not in non-PPR, not in PPR. But he's had 2,000-yard guys, right, in the same season? Yeah, yes. Garcon and Jackson?

Yes. And in that year, I can look it up, but I think Jackson was 28th in non-PPR, and Garcon was 22nd in PPR. And that is the highest of any wide receiver in the Kirk Cousins era in Washington. It's pretty interesting. He did have a year in 2015. Jordan Reed had 952 yards and 11 touchdowns on 87 catches. So he was probably the top two tight end.

He may have been a top 10 wide receiver with the 11 touchdowns, 87 catches, 952 yards. So that was Jordan Reed. But Cousins did spread the ball around. So you don't know if that's going to be the same in Minnesota, but that is sort of what happened in Washington. It could. I mean, they have three very good players at respective positions,

number one receiver, number two receiver, tight end. And Dalvin Cook, I think, was on pace for like 45 catches last year. Amari Cooper is a breakout for Jamie Eisenberg. Cooper was one of the biggest busts in fantasy last year. He was the number 33 wide receiver in non-PPR, number 34 in PPR. 687 yards, really, on only 96 targets. So you've got Amari Cooper as a breakout. I like what John Gruen's been saying.

You know, I'm by that hype. I think, look, at worst-case scenario, he'll get back to his production from this first two years, which was, what, like 75 catches, 1,000 yards, and six touchdowns, I think, on average in that range. Last year, he closed the season playing better, scored in each of his final two games. No Crabtree, so whether Jordy Nelson still has something left to prove, Martavis Bryant obviously there, Jared Cook will be a little bit of a factor. I still think, though, that this will be the guy that John Gruden has Derek Carr focus on. So I think it'll be 120 to 140 targets. I think it'll be used more in the red zone than we've seen in previous

seasons. And so I do think that this could be another chance for him to be 80 catches, 1100 yards, and eight touchdowns. So I think he's somebody that you can buy back into after last year's season. Cooper was, in 2016, 12th in non-PPR, 13th in PPR. In 2015, he was around, I think, closer to 20th. He had 1,070 yards and six touchdowns. Would you rather have Amari Cooper or... Danny Amendola would have been a good one in PPR if he weren't suspended. But Amari Cooper or Stefan Diggs. You mean Edelman.

Yeah, sorry, Edelman. Stefan Diggs or Cooper? Cooper. Cooper or T.Y. Hilton? Hilton. Assuming luck is right, obviously. Allen Robinson or Cooper? Cooper.

But that's the group that I struggle with. Not Hilton. I think Hilton is in a higher class, higher tier, just based on what he should do with the healthy Andrew Luck. But the group that I struggle with, and I put Josh Gordon at the end of that tier as well, but you can put Gordon in this one for argument's sake. You have Gordon.

You have Cooper. Demaryius Thomas. Certainly in PPR, Larry Fitzgerald You have Gordon, you have Cooper, Demaryius Thomas, certainly in PPR, Larry Fitzgerald, Diggs, Thielen, Robinson. I think all those guys in that round three, round four range, hopefully all of them obviously are great. But this is kind of if you go with a running back heavy approach in your first two rounds, these are the type of receivers that may end up being your number one guy. And again, if you're getting Cooper's numbers from the 2016 season, you'll be okay with that. If you're getting the numbers from the 2017 season,

you're going to have a really bad fantasy. Yeah, that's a good point. It's an interesting round. High upside wide receivers for sure. Juju Smith-Schuster is also on the breakouts list. But so I can get to some emails, let's skip ahead to one tight end. Trey Burton. Jamie removed the tight end from his breakout list.

And I'm going to go ahead and take that tight end and put him on my imaginary breakout list. And that would be O.J. Howard. But that was before the Cameron Brate signing, so he took Howard off the list. But he's keeping Trey Burton on the list. And, yeah, you like him better than Evan Ingram, right? I do.

I like Burton. For me, there are five tight ends I think that are going to go. There are top four tight ends with the three guys of Gronk, Kelsey and Ertz. I think Greg Olson deserves to be fourth. I'll put Jimmy Graham fifth and then I like Burton sixth you know and it's a risk it's a gamble we've never seen him in a full-time role but every time Zach Ertz has been out there's Trey Burton producing for the Eagles and now you're going to an offense that should be similar to what the Chiefs ran under Andy Reid because that's where Matt Nagy comes from as the

office coordinator for Kansas City. Again, another guy that didn't necessarily call plays his entire time there, but he did call plays at times last year. And they featured Travis Kelsey. And I think Burton is going to run a lot of routes, is going to be a favorite target for Mitchell Trubisky. I know Adam Shaheen could be somewhat of a nuisance

because that's a guy that they drafted, but different coaching staff. And they didn't really use Shaheen last year. I think that they signed Burton for a reason. I think he's going to be involved in the offense a ton, and I'm buying the upside. This is a little bit also Gator bias. I will say that too. Is it? Of course.

No, I'm kidding. He's a good player. He's a good, versatile, talented player that was in a bad spot and now is in a much better spot. So Trey Burton. I have a feeling. Yeah, a big part of the biggest play in the Super Bowl, arguably.

Oh, the special? The Philly special, yeah. I've got a feeling that Jamie is going to move Trey Burton ahead of Jimmy Graham when it's all said and done. She's got this feeling inside my bones. That's a quote JT. It's a quote to Timberlake there. Jamie knows it. All right.

Let's do some emails. What movie is that from? Let's see how good you are. What movie is that from? That is from Peter Rabbit. No. I have no idea. Trolls.

Trolls. Something that I would not see because I do not have three kids. All right. Graham at FantasyFootball at CBSi.com has a Dynasty League Grade the Trade. Give up Sonny Michelle and Juju Smith-Schuster. Sonny Michelle and Juju Smith-Schuster get Joe Mixon and Josh Gordon. Wow. So you're giving up youth for really just one relative,

I don't know, but older player in Gordon. And Joe Mixon. Well, Mixon's not old. Oh, I didn't know what you meant. Yeah, I mean, just in terms of time of service. Gordon's the oldest one by far. I think if you're in a position to win now, I like the Mixon-Gordon side better.

If you are uncertain of your situation this year, I'd rather have Michelle and Juju. Yeah. Dynasty leagues are interesting with wide receivers who are tied to older quarterbacks. Because you've got to kind of ask yourself, how many more years does Roethlisberger play? But then again, when he's gone, Antonio Brown, you know what I mean? Like the future of the Steelers looks a lot different in three years. I think you've got to put it in three-year windows with any player. What's this guy's outlook over three years?

Yeah, pretty good for Juju. I would hope so. Yeah. All right, 12-team PPR auction, $300 budget. We don't have a name, so let's just say this is David Heathcliff from Fort Lauderdale. 12-team PPR, $300 budget, keeping David Johnson and Dalvin Cook for $10 each. Nice work, David Heathcliff. Choose two of the following.

Joe Mixon for $33. PPR remember Derek Henry for 16 Alex Collins for 3 Aaron Jones for 1 Josh Gordon for 3 Just two of those guys? Yeah

I mean I think it's easy It's Alex Collins and Josh Gordon I think at this point like You've got David Johnson for 10 bucks Dalvin Cook for 10 bucks Josh Gordon. I think at this point, you've got David Johnson for $10, Dalvin Cook for $10, Josh Gordon for $3. So that's $23 out of $300 for David Johnson, Cook, and Gordon. Do you care about price at that point? Do you just go with best player available?

But none of the guys really separate themselves that much. Okay, yeah. So you get alex collins now you have three hopefully stud running backs certainly two potential ones you have uh you know what should be at least a borderline number one certainly number two receiver coming into the season and now you could splurge like i would splurge on receiver yeah yeah all right we've got an email from Scott from a city in Virginia that's south of D.C.

Yeah, Jamie and I aren't good at this. A city that's south of D.C.? Yeah, in Virginia. Miami. Yeah, Miami, Virginia. Dear Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Keith. Roanoke, is that? Yeah, okay, Roanoke.

Virginia Beach? Virginia Beach is probably east. Anyway, dear Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Keith, I've heard of the draft strategy of taking two quarterbacks late. Can you also do this with two tight ends very late? So he wants to use his first nine picks on running backs and wide receivers and then take two quarterbacks and two tight ends with four late picks. Who do you like?

Would you do that, and who do you like? Well, I mean, I know you've done this with tight end X and O.J. Howard because you buy into O.J. Howard taking the next step in his sophomore season, which I understand. I've seen Dave do this with Tight End X and George Kittle because he buys into Kittle which I agree with Keith has done this

with I think it's in our magazine he did this in the draft where he took Charles Clay and another Tight End Hayden Hurst another one that he likes.

So there's three of you guys taking the young tight end route, first or second year guys, which again, those are the type of guys you want to buy into. I think if you want to go with the veteran guys, you could put Clay in that category. There's some thought that Eric Ebron will be the better pass catcher of the Colts tight end. So if Andrew Luck is back, we've seen him use the tight ends quite a bit. I think if you take – we're going to talk about this. We're actually going to spend some time toward the end of July looking at just positions on the site.

I think we're going to do that with our podcast with position previews as well. But looking at just positions. So we're going to spend a week on just tight ends. We're going to do that with our podcast, but position previews as well. Um, but looking at just positions. So like, we're going to spend a week on just tight ends. We're gonna spend a week on quarterbacks week on. And so like, I, I think it's not necessarily on the podcast.

No, no, no. I know we're going to do our position previews though. Yeah. Um, but I'm saying on the site, we're going to spend a week on just tight ends.

And so I know I'm particularly going to look at just the average job position of tight ends. And so, um, there's the, the thought process of people, for whatever reason, they don't want to draft the Delaney Walker, Kyle Rudolph, maybe even throw Jimmy Graham in there just because they're older. But if you're so inclined to and you have to settle for one of those guys, then you take a flyer on one of the younger guys like we just talked about. Or if you want to pair two veteran guys, you know, I think Vance McDonald has some potential as the Steelers guy. I think if the Chargers sign Antonio Gates, you'll have some interesting production there. Benjamin Watson, the last time he was with the Saints, was very good.

The first year without Jimmy Graham. He's back there. There are some older tight ends that you're going to kind of forget about. And one of my favorite number two tight ends to draft, Ricky Seals-Jones. The Cardinals love him apparently. And Jermaine Gresham's coming back from an Achilles injury from Week 17. It's doubtful he'll be ready to start the season. Don't overlook Ricky Seals-Jones, especially paired with Sam Bradford

if he's a starter. Think about what Kyle Rudolph was with Bradford and Zach Ertz the year before with Philadelphia. He's going to lean on the tight end quite a bit. All right, I'll just add a few things. Sometimes Jordan Reed goes late. That would be a gift to you if you can get him in the 10th round or later. You're saying pairing him with somebody.

You'd have to pair him with somebody, but he could be the first tight end you take, Jordan Reed and then someone else. He could still go late. I actually would not mind doing a team where I take nine running backs and wide receivers, and then it's possible to do it now, maybe not when we get closer to the season, but if I could go Andrew Luck, Ben Roethlisberger, Jack Doyle, O.J. Howard, and have those four, Andrew Luck and Roethlisberger, a quarterback, Jack Doyle and O.J. Howard at tight end, I would be giddy.

So you're taking four quarterbacks and tight ends, so two of each? Yes. That's what he's saying. He's saying use your first – Oh, he's saying do them both. Yeah, yeah. Use your first nine picks. Oh, I thought he just meant pairing two tight ends together. I'm sorry.

No, no, no. Do both. And I think this is the year you can do it just because of the quarterback depth. Yeah, the only thing that would frustrate me with that situation is if let's just say the tight ends I think are a little bit different because I don't think you'll get the type of production week to week from both guys unless you're just lucky. But let's just say luck is right and now you have to make a choice because of bye weeks or injuries or whatever.

You potentially have to cut one of those quarterbacks and you're just giving a gift to somebody else. That's true. You could try to trade but you're rightbacks, and you're just giving a gift to somebody else. That's true. You could try to trade, but you're right. You might not be able to get anything. That could be frustrating. You're right.

It's a good point. Again, that's a good problem to have. Yeah. But it could just put you in a situation of, okay, who do I play each week? What if, you know, okay, that man, Roethlisberger's got the Browns on the road. He's been three straight good games on the road. And then, oh, it's windy. Right, right. Well, Roethlisberger's not going to have three straight good games on the road.

Let's be honest. Well, good games for him. Here's an email from Justin. Who is the best tight end flyer at the end of the draft? Charles Clay, Jared Cook, Austin Hoopa, Austin Safarian Jenkins, Mike Gasicki, or someone else. Charles Clay, Jared Cook, Austin Hoopa, Safarian Jenkins, or Gasicki,

or choose your own adventure, Jamie. Of this group, I would take Clay just because of his role with the Bills and their receiving core is so awful. My favorite of the guys that we just talked about is Ricky Seals-Jones. I just think, again, he really flashed in those two games. He's a former wide receiver. Think about this receiving core.

It's a lot of ifs after Larry Fitzgerald. He could be that second if. And so I'll take my chances with him, but also throw in Dave Njoku. We didn't really talk about him, too. He could be a good touchdown producer for the Browns. And an email from Andrew. Hey, Chuck, Bill, and Mike. These Steelers coaches.

They would be. Our league allows trading draft picks. What do you think is a reasonable asking price to trade up from the 11th pick to the third pick in the first round of a redraft league? 12-team league. He wants to move up from 11 to 3. What should Andrew give the owner with the third pick? Well, I think the easy thing to do is you give your first and your second round pick

because that's 11 and what, 15? 14? 14. Okay, so you give 11 and 14. And then I would probably say give me back your third. So you're giving up the two and three for first round pick and third round pick. All right, hang on. So you go from 11 and 13 to three, and you get the 20th pick?

Mm-hmm. No, no, no, no, no, no. The owner giving up three keeps his second round pick. Oh, right, right, right, right. So he has now 11, 14, and... 20. 21.

Oh, I'm sorry, 22. 22. My bad. 11, 14, and 22. And he gives up 3 and 27. All right, so let's do this. Owner 1, owner A. Owner A starts with 3, 22, 3, 4, 5, 27.

Owner B starts with 11, 14, and what, 35, right? Mm-hmm. So you're saying in order to get the three pick for owner B, he gives up 14 and he gets back 27? And 11. He gives up 11 and 14. He gives up 11 and 14 He gives up 11 and 14 But he moves up in the third round

And he moves up No and he gets Yes he moves up in the third round So that would leave Owner A with picks 11, 14 And 22 Right

Owner B would have 3, 27 14 And 22 Right And owner B Three of the first 22 picks Owner B would have Three 27 And 35 Oh no We're giving

Right Yeah Yes Yes Hmm What would I rather have Three 27 And 35

You know what My mind has exploded We're going to go So wait, no, essentially Let's just, I mean, let's play it out So you have You're giving up It's non-PPR, PPR to say

It's half PPR Okay, so you're giving up Zeke To get You're giving up Zeke to get Barkley AJ Green, and Travis Kelsey. I don't think you're getting Kelsey with 27. No, 20, 22. You're getting 22?

You're keeping 22. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, okay. Right. Okay. So you're losing your third round pick. So you're giving up three overall, which is who? Say Zeke. Zeke Elliott.

Uh-huh. And whoever you take in the third round, let's say that's Jarek McKinnon. Or is that too early? We're 27 overall. That's Christian McCaffrey. Okay. So you're giving up Ezekiel Elliott. I like this.

This is better. Ezekiel Elliott and McCaffrey for Barkley, A.J. Green, and Kelsey. I would rather have Barkley, A.J. Green, and Kelsey. Right. But unfortunately, Jamie, the owner that is doing this is going to be getting Ezekiel Elliott and Christian McCaffrey. So he's losing by our logic. Huh? The owner that emailed us is moving up from 11 to 3, not moving from 3 back to 11.

I know. He wants to move up to 3. Right, but we think he's losing. Right, but he's the one that wants to move up. We're playing the other side of it. He's the one that wants Zeke. We don't know if there's keepers involved, but he has keepers or whatever. 10 years running. I think we just

had our worst 4-minute segment ever. It's entirely my fault. You guys have talked about crackling Opran for at least 4 minutes. It's entirely my fault. I just got extremely confused. So, Jamie, enjoy your vacation. I hope we hear from you in the next two weeks.

If not, yeah, we'll figure it out. Me, Dave, and Heath will get it going. I think Dave has gone too. Dave's gone for a little bit, yep. So we're going to mix and match for the next week or two. And then we're going to kick ass until it's time to draft, and we'll continue kicking ass after that. We'll talk to you soon, Jamie.

I will miss all of you except for Adam. Because you're going to talk to me so much that it won't be possible to miss me. Yeah, we share a lot of fantasy baseball. We sure do. Thanks for listening, everybody. Back on Thursday. Adios. Bye.

It's all right. I've got Le'Veon. It's all right. Not Joy Le'Veon. Itios. Bye.