Fantasy Football Today - 07/25: Live Draft! 12-Team Superflex, 3-WR (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 25, 2019

What is a Superflex league? It's a league that gives you the option to start a second QB at a flex spot. So, basically it's a 2-QB league. And we're on the clock for a 12-team, PPR Superflex draft. This one is a 3-WR league to further complicate things. We address our QB strategy (8:15) several times along the way, so follow along as we make and analyze our picks. Other topics covered: MIN WRs (14:30), news and notes (22:00) on Calvin Ridley, Kalen Ballage and Derrius Guice, a Corey Davis debate (55:40), late-round picks we like (1:04:00) such as Anthony Miller and Donte Moncrief ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Super Flex, an increasingly popular and very, very fun way to play fantasy football.

And you are catching us right in the middle of round one of our Superflex Draft. Welcome, everybody, to Fantasy Football Today. Adam Azer, Jamie Isenberg, and Heath Cummings. Jamie is on the clock with the sixth pick. You can guess what the top four were. Maybe, or maybe you're thinking, hey, did Patrick LaHolmes go there? He didn't, by the way. In case you are new to the format, it's essentially a two-quarterback league.

But first of all, let's say hi to Jamie and Heath. Heath, which pick do you have? I have like the 73rd pick, it seems like. I will pick in a couple hours later in the show. And I'm going to do something fun. Take him home? See how this draft goes here. Well, you have the 11th pick.

I have the 5th pick. Jamie has the 6th pick. We are now 8 picks in, and the results so far, Barkley, Zeke, it's PPR. Barkley, Zeke, McCaffrey, Kamara. I took Devante Adams. Jamie took Hopkins.

Yeah, I know. Jamie took Hopkins. Why? Why would you take my guy? Then Julio, then Juju. Patrick Mahomes goes ninth overall. So here's the format. You start one quarterback, two running backs, three wide receivers, a flex, which is a running back, wide receiver, tight end,

a super flex, which can be any position, quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end. So you have a three receiver league plus a flex plus a super flex. You know what I'm going to say. I think this format devalues tight end except for the top three. So keep that in mind. I don't know if you guys agree, but these are all NSPBR and it's five point per passing touchdown. I think nine's too early for Mahomes.

Heath, were you going to take Mahomes at 11? Yep. Why? There's too many roster spots. I'm going to take Mahomes here instead with Tyreek Hill. Yeah, you did get Mahomes. You did get Tyreek Hill. I think I'm going to.

All right. Maybe Damian Williams will fall at the end of the third round because it's a super flex. Dave's not in this draft. Well, Ben Gretz is in this draft. That's true. Alright, but three receivers

plus a flex and PPR and only five points per pass and touchdown. Why would you take Mahomes in the first round? The quarterbacks are like this is

we call it super flex and it gives you a little bit of help on like bi-weeks and stuff but this is a two quarterback league yes like if it's super flex it's a two quarterback league and so i like i do think especially with tyreek hill back there's a little separation now but for me between mah homes and watson and there's always been a little separation for me between my homes and watson and the and then next two and so i i don't think there's like now that i didn't get my homes and i'm not going to get watson i probably won't take a quarterback until 15 of them are off the board and then i'll take two or three but yeah i think the difference makers make a difference.

That's why they're called that. You know what's interesting in this type of format, and Heath just kind of alluded to it, because you're picking on an end, you can gauge as it comes to you. If there's a run, you could take two with your swing picks. You can say, okay, I don't love these guys here. I think in a format where there's something similar to this,

you can sort of play it a little bit more to your advantage picking on the ends. I don't know if I explained that correctly or not. Well, yeah, I mean being able to – There's a very good chance I'm going to do exactly what Jamie was talking about. Go back-to-back quarterbacks. Five, six, or seven, eight turn, depending on how this goes, just take two of them. Right. Okay, so I did ask you all what you plan on doing with quarterback. You're going to most likely start two, although I will tell you that the number 24 quarterback last year was Andy Dalton.

In a five-point-per-passing touchdown league PPR, Andy Dalton scored as many fantasy points as the number 17 running back but number 24 wide receiver. So, you know, I don't think if you're bad at quarterback, if you're weak at quarterback, it's a 12-team league, and if your number two quarterback is outside the top 20, I don't think you should eliminate the possibility of starting a wide receiver at your flex. Well, you're talking about the number 17 running back. But number 24 wide receiver.

Right, but you're starting two running backs and three receivers. Everybody is. Okay, you know what? In theory, there's— Three receiver league, you're right. Now, if it were a four-point-per-passing touchdown league, Andy Dalton was equivalent to the number 33 wide receiver in a four-point-per-passing touchdown league.

I'm on the clock. I'm going to catch everybody up on the picks. And, Jamie, you might have to give me just 10 more seconds. I apologize. I have Devontae Adams, so I'm going to take Dalvin Cook with my second pick. Come on. Take Melvin Gordon. Oh, he's still on the board.

All right, so let's go over the picks. Here we go. All of the draft results. So the top four running backs went one through four. Barkley, Zeke, McCaffrey, Kamara, Devontae Adams, DeAndre Hopkins, Julio Jones, Juju Smith-Schuster. Four running backs, four receivers to start. Patrick Mahomes, David Johnson, Tyreek Hill, James Conner,

Michael Thomas, Heath then took Travis Kelsey, giving him Hill and Kelsey. Odell Beckham. I got Mahomes. Odell Beckham, Mike Evans, Le'Veon Bell, Joe Mixon a little later than, I don't know, a little later. But 18th overall, Joe Mixon. Keenan Allen to Jamie.

I took Dalvin Cook. Then Antonio Brown went off the board, and we are now caught up. Jamie, any picks really stand out there, good or bad? I mean, you mentioned Mixon falling to the second round. I think Mike Evans may be going a little bit too soon. Not in a bad

way, but just coming off the board. Odell Beckham falling to 15. Fantastic. Other than that, no. Nothing really. I have Todd Gurley and Damian Williams in my queue. I am up in six picks. I am not considering a quarterback here.

I'm probably going to pass on the top ones unless, well, let's see. I'll put Gurley, Damian Williams, Ertz, and Kittle in my queue. And I'll put maybe a couple wide receivers. Let's see the wide receivers I want. I'm still up in six picks. Leonard Fournette just went off the board ahead of Nick Chubb, ahead of Gurley, ahead of Williams. And ahead of Melvin Gordon.

Ahead of Melvin Gordon. I don't know if that's going to end up being a surprise if you're listening to this two or three days from now, but the continual slide of Melvin Gordon. The only reason I'm bringing up Leonard Fournette is we just spoke to Pete Prisco Drink from Jacksonville.

He's in camp with the Jaguars. And he said, speaking to some of the coaches there, with what John DiFilippo, the new offensive coordinator, wants to do, that Fournette's involvement in the passing game could be significant. Okay. He also raved about D.D. Westbrook. He did.

I am the highest guy in the world on DeeDee Westbrook, and Pete told me I was too low. No, he said your projections were too low. Yeah. All right, so would you guys at this point take Leonard Fournette over Todd Gurley? I haven't. Yeah, me too. Would you take him over Damian Williams?

I've struggled with it in PPR as I've continued to move Damian Williams up I still have Fournette higher right now but that's one that I keep looking at and it makes me pause but I have Fournette ahead of Chubb Alright, now let's talk about quarterback strategy here because so far we're about 24 picks in we're waiting for round 2 to end

and after I took Dalvin Cook it was Antonio Brown and then Leonard Fournette and we're still waiting for the next pick. So, so far it's just Mahomes off the board as we are at pick 23. I think what you have to do is treat this as a two-quarterback league, as Heath said, and you have to ask yourself where in the rankings is the cutoff of two quarterbacks that you are comfortable starting. And, you know, I'll ask all of you that, I guess.

Heath, where in the rankings, how many quarterbacks? It's easy in a one-quarterback league. But in a two-quarterback league, which this essentially is, you want two of your top what? I don't know. I'm going to answer the question in a couple of different ways. Okay. I would be fine or happy starting 17 of them.

Okay. I feel like I'm fine going as deep as 24. I think there are 24 quarterbacks that are fine as a number two option. And then there's a little bit of upside beyond that. But like my, my 21 through 24 Garoppolo Dalton car and cousins, any of those guys could be good this year. That's 21 through 24.

You said, yeah. Okay. So, Jamie, how about you? Two of your top what you think are, you know, what you'd be aiming for? I mean, I'd be aiming for two of my top 15, but I'm fine with two of my top 25

if, in fact, my roster is just sick. And 24 and 25 for you are Sam Darnold and Derek Carr. And 23 is Andy Dalton. I thought you might cut it off there and say, yeah, I don't really want to... I just want to reference one thing. We did this draft about a month ago, same format. A little different. We did two receivers instead of a month ago, same format, a little different.

We did two receivers instead of three, so maybe that changes things a little bit. But Chris Hassel, who is not in this draft, was in the last one. He's one of our CBS Sports HQ hosts. He had a ridiculous team, and his first quarterback was Derek Carr. I forget who his second quarterback was. It might be Foles. And he went Carr, Foles, and then Dwayne Haskins. But the rest of his team was just insane. So like, while

everybody was taking quarterbacks, and you know, some cases taking three, he waited and waited and waited, and he was on the end. I believe he picked 12th. And so his only quarter, his first quarterback was Carr. I will say, like, we are at the second pick in the third round now. Mahomes still the only quarterback that's been taken.

If there's not at least, maybe not a quarterback run, maybe a quarterback spurt in the next 10 picks, then we're kind of doing it wrong. Yeah, but I still see guys that I'd rather take over. Aaron Rodgers would be my pick here if I had the number two quarterback. But I'm still looking at Todd Gurley, Damian Williams, and T.Y. Hilton in my queue. If it were a two-receiver league, I think I'd take Rodgers over Hilton. But considering it's PPR and I have to start three receivers and a flex and a super flex,

I'd like to have a little more receiver depth. But Gurley, Damian Williams, Julian Edelman, and T.Y. Hilton are in my queue. I'm not sure how I feel about Edelman ahead of Rodgers. But yeah, I'm not taking Aaron Rodgers here. So Rodgers just went. Okay, fine. I'm not taking Luck or Watson. Recapping some of the picks here as I'm on the clock,

and I'm going to take Todd Gurley, 29th overall. So recent picks. Fournette, we told you about. Then it was Zach Ertz, George Kittle, A.J. Green, Aaron Rodgers, Amari Cooper, Andrew Luck, Todd Gurley,

Jamie took Damian Williams. First time. Good. All right. 30th overall. First time. With three quarterbacks off the board. So, Heath, are you happy with the way this looks? I agree with you. It was time to start taking some QBs. Yeah, I mean, I think it's weird that the second best quarterback hasn't been taken yet.

Yeah, and it's only five points to pass the touchdown. So, yeah. And even in five points, I think Watson should be the second quarterback. I have him ranked fourth in six points. That just slight downgrade gives him such an edge with his rushing ability. Adam Thielen and Nick Chubb were the last two picks taken. So I think seeing Damian Williams go ahead of Nick Chubb is probably something that didn't happen a month ago.

Fair? Yes. Melvin Gordon off the board, 33rd overall. Your thoughts? I will say this. I think we got an email or a tweet about this. Nick Chubb's receiving ability gets, I think, overlooked a little bit. I think in four of his last seven games, he had at least three catches.

So they were using him a little bit more in that regard. Yeah. He's not going to be, I think, a 60-catch guy, but I think 40 is realistic. He was on pace for 42 in his 10 starts. Yeah. I think that's realistic. I'm very, very happy

that Matthew Koka took Melvin Gordon so I didn't have to make that decision. And I'm not near as happy that Ben Gretsch took Deshaun Watson because i was going to be thrilled to get him there at the end of the third round but uh ah there it is i guess i'll just i'll just i'll just stick with like it's a normal draft and take carry on johnson at pick 35 listen jamie it's very important next time there a Heath sigh, you cannot talk at the end.

You have to leave it so I can make a clean edit. You just IM me when you think there's a Heath sigh. That's worth clipping. All right, so Deshaun Watson went after Melvin Gordon. Heath took Kerryon Johnson. We are at the final pick of round three. I don't see anything crazy. I was trying to dig in a little bit on the Vikings receivers

before the show to see how I felt about them. And I think in PPR, I think I'm really nervous about Stefan Diggs. I want to know how you guys feel about these two guys. But Diggs has played 29 games over the last two years, and I believe he has had 14 games with 50 or fewer yards. That scares me. How do you guys feel? And I also just don't think that he can take off and really break out to what his talent level is as long as Adam Thielen is there. There was, I think it was on Good Morning Football. I didn't see the show, and I may be saying it incorrectly, so I apologize. But I thought, I know it was D'Angelo Hall.

Somebody tweeted D'Angelo Hall saying how much he loves Stephon Diggs. And I feel like Stephon Diggs is going to be the type of player, I hope not for his entire career, where everybody loves what he does, but he never posts the statistics that match it. Yes. Yeah. So like as a player and his ability,

star potential. But will he ever maximize that in terms of his numbers? Yeah. I don't know. I think as long as Thielen's there, it's going to be tough. Well, also with Mike Zimmer there too, I think. So unless it becomes a situation where they turn, let's just say the Vikings have a good season and Zimmer stays

because he's one of the coaches that's on the hot seat coming into the season. If they do well, maybe it's Stefanski, maybe it's Kubiak, maybe it happens this year. But those guys seem to want to be a little bit more run dependent. But I think if it's one of those situations where you get a situation of turning the offense loose and Rams-esque, Chiefs-esque, whatever the case may be, Saints, I don't think we're ever going to see those guys maximize what their full potential will be. And that includes Thielen, who was awesome last year. Sure.

So who do you guys like better, Thielen or Diggs? Diggs. Diggs. And that also speaks to, I know, Adam, you bring this up all the time, the injuries that Thielen was dealing with. But in the three games under Stefanski at the end of the season, it really was a lot of Diggs time, the injuries that Thielen was dealing with. But in the three games under Stefanski at the end of the season, it really was a lot of Diggs target-wise compared to Thielen.

I mean, I think Diggs targets, if I recall, at the end of the season. Maybe I'm confusing it with Thielen. But they were both bad in terms of fantasy production. Diggs kept finding the end zone. But his last, you're right, the targets were better. I confused it with Thielen. He had six, seven, six, and ten targets in his last four games. He did get in the end zone three times.

Now, I dug in a little bit more on the pass attempts in those games because we've talked about it. Kirk Cousins, he threw, he averaged like 29 pass attempts per game in the last four. It's not quite that simple because two of those games were blowout wins, so bad game script, and one of those games that had the ball for 22 minutes. I think we'll explore this topic a little bit more hopefully next week, but I just did want to bring up the Vikings wide receivers. And, Heath, you actually took Brandon Cooks ahead of Stefan Diggs.

I didn't know you had it ranked that way. Yeah, I took Brandon Cooks ahead of Stefan Diggs. I didn't know you had it ranked that way. Yeah, I do have Cooks ranked ahead of Diggs. I'm pretty terrified of what this new offensive philosophy in Minnesota is going to do to target share for both Thielen and Diggs. And really, Diggs was marginally better last year in PPR, but Cooks has been so consistent the last three or four years, and even last year, probably had his best year, if not for some rotten touchdown luck in one game

where he essentially didn't play. All right, catching up on some of the picks, and now Jamie and I are about to be on the clock. Jamie's on deck. I'm in the hole. But to start round three, after Heath took Kerryon Johnson and Andrew took Aaron Jones, Andrew then took T.Y. Hilton, then Brandon Cooks, Stefan Diggs, Matt Ryan, Marlon Mack. Jamie, I really want Julian Edelman.

Really badly. Do you? Yeah, please don't take him. Tyler Lockett went to to argent interesting pick in a ppr league tyler walk it all right jamie are you gonna take julian edelman you gonna break my heart um you don't have a quarterback yet you can take a quarterback no i was taking baker really yep all right i'm taking edelman and i'm thrilled Now I could see my next two picks being quarterbacks. I sort of would like to get in the Jameis Winston, Jared Goff range in a two QB league,

but let's talk about how we started our team through four rounds. I have Devante Adams, Julian Edelman, Dalvin cook and Todd Gurley. Can we get the over under on the number of games missed for your team? Yeah, it's a real high upside, big downside team. Wow. Yeah, I'm okay with it.

No guts, no glory. Jamie, your first four picks? DeAndre Hopkins, Keenan Allen, Damian Williams, and Baker Mayfield. Heath? I've got Tyree Kill, Travis Kelsey, Brandon Cooks, and Kerryon Johnson. By taking Travis Kelsey, what, 14th? No, 13th overall, right? 14th.

14th, yes, sorry. You don't seem to agree with my assessment about tight end value in this format. Or do you? No, not at all. Especially not when it comes to Kelsey, Ertz, or Kittle. I don't think there's any type of lineup configuration that you could make that would devalue those three because they're better than most receivers. But they weren't better than the receivers that were on the board when you took Kelsey.

They weren't better than Beckham. Oh, they were last year. They probably were the year before. Do you project them to be better than Odell Beckham? Do you project them to have better stats than Beckham? I would guess that it's really close. I'll check. But there's maybe been one year where Beckham's been better than Kelsey.

Mike Evans, who I know you love. I've got Travis Kelsey for 101 catches, 1,297 yards, and eight touchdowns. Oh, Beckham will beat that if he stays healthy. That's 278 PPR points. Beckham will crush that if he stays healthy. Odell Beckham I have for 270. How much did you say for Kelsey? 278.

Oh, you're too low on your Beckham prediction. The guy is 1,400 yards every year and double-digit touchdowns. I don't think that's true. It's pretty true, at least his 16-game pace. Okay, well, I'm not sure how that's relevant. But you don't ever draft it for that. You don't consider that. You can't use that argument.

I can use the argument when I'm drafting. I don't generally use the argument when I'm projecting. But also, I don't... And I'm on the record with this, and I think Jamie said it as well. Jamie's got him as a bust. I just did that really for our show. Because he's going 10th overall. I don't think Odell Beckham gets 10 targets per game like he always has.

Okay. He does get a quarterback upgrade, though, unless you don't think that. I know you love Eli. He definitely gets a quarterback upgrade. But you're telling me Odell Beckham is going to be more efficient? I just think he's awesome. There's no question that he's awesome. I think Travis Kelsey is awesome.

Okay. Yeah, he is. All right. So I'm trying to think about the quarterbacks I want to take here. I think, yeah, I would like to get someone in this range unless of course there's an amazing as jamie said you know you can wait on quarterback if there's just amazing players left but the best wide receivers are ridley cup tyler boyd the best running backs are kenyan drake kaylin bellage we should probably go over some news and notes, guys. Kalen Balazs took the first snaps.

Does that matter to you guys? Not really. Not so much for Drake, but I think it's encouraging for Balazs. Not that you're taking him that much more than he was going. He's still a double-digit round guy, but he was getting written off for the most part. So it's a tough call for me. Cooper Cup just went...

I've got to catch people up on some picks here, so I apologize. Let's see. We had Marlon Mack, Tyler Lockett, Baker Mayfield to Jamie, Edelman to me, Josh Jacobs, Robert Woods, Devontae Freeman, Chris Godwin, who Bruce Arians just raved about.

Devontae said he's never coming off the field. He can play inside or outside. Chris Godwin, Devontae Freeman, Kenny never coming off the field He can play inside or outside Chris Godwin Devontae Freeman Kenny Galladay Cooper Cup And Carson Wentz My dilemma is I'd love to get another running back

Kenyon Drake Mark Ingram David Montgomery James White Phillip Lindsay Are all on the board I think there's a chance if I wait around One of them falls

or Tariq Cohen could be there. Jameis Winston would be my pick. No, I'd take Cam, who's on a pitch count early in training camp. I'm not really worried. And then I don't love the wide receivers unless

it's Calvin Ridley who hurt his hamstring today. Oh, James White just went. So do you think there's a separation? We were talking about this on the show today. In that tier of number two receivers on their own team that are young and have a lot of excitement and upside, do you see a separation between Godwin, Ridley, and Tyler Boyd? Boyd's the one that scares me the most. I would rank it that way.

Godwin, Ridley, Boyd. I do think there's a little separation between the first two and Boyd. Yeah, I'm just not sure there is. And I almost feel dumb for ranking Godwin ahead of Ridley. Can you tell me real quick how you feel about Ridley

and this hamstring injury? It's so early in camp that I think it's fine, but not great. And Quinn said that he expected Goodwin to be back for their next four-day stretch. I think it starts on Saturday. Okay. Who said

Dan Quinn? He expected who to be back? Ridley. Oh, you said Goodwin, which wasn't Godwin or Ridley. I thought you said Ridley. I thought I said Ridley, but okay. All right. Maybe I'm crazy.

I could have sworn. So, okay. So, Jamie did take Calvert. I took Cam. Jamie took Ridley. You know what's weird to me about Boyd is how much better he was with A.J. Green. Do you buy that, that he's better with A.J. Green? I think he's just good.

You know, so it's nice to see that he wasn't reliant on Green being gone to be good. But I think, you know, he's got a chance to be a pretty good player in this league. And I expect the Bengals to spread the ball around. So I think yeah, I feel pretty good about

him. I think I actually have him ranked the highest of those three. How about you, Jamie? How do you rank Godwin, Boyd, Ridley? In that order. I'm sorry, Ridley over Boyd. But they're all within three or four picks of each other. Darius Geis will not be limited at camp.

What did you guys think about that? It's good. It's encouraging. You know, it's just a matter of how many touches will he be getting when you still have Peterson, you still have Thompson. We'll see what Bryce Love does, if anything. So there's a lot of mouths to feed there in an offense that's not supposed to be very good.

Trent Williams, who knows if he'll be there to help the offensive line. Rookie quarterback, potentially. I'm not thrilled about the upside for Geis right now, but I hope to be proven wrong because I like him as a talent. Yeah. So my personal opinion, I know Heath doesn't agree with it, but maybe you do.

If we have removed the three tight ends, but tight ends, not as good in this format, which is why when I was giving the names of the players I was considering, I didn't look at Evan Ingram or OJ Howard or Hunter Henry. Evan Ingram did go. I took Newton. Then it was Calvin Ridley. Then it was Chris Carson.

Then Evan Ingram. Alan Robinson. DJ Moore. Is that too early? That's Ben Gretsch. Is that too early? He drafts him every draft. I just wrote in the chat room, Ben on brand with DJ Moore. I think DJ Moore absolutely belongs in the same tier with the guys we were talking about.

Not same tier. The very next tier. So I would have taken Boyd over him, but he's right there. He's with the Pettis, Kirk. Yep. I know you don't necessarily agree with this, but Robbie Anderson, in my opinion. Man, I love this pick. What pick?

Oh, Kenya and Drake. Kenya and Drake in the sixth round in PPR is just... I'm in love with it. Even if he's not the lead back, I think he's worth that. He wasn't the lead back last year, so yeah. Tyler Boyd went to Heath. Kyler Murray, Phillip Lindsey, Kenyon Drake, OJ Howard to Ben. Just not enough quarterbacks going off the board right now

for me to be really thinking qb unless there's a rhyme i'm up in five picks jamie's up in four no i'm up in four jamie's up in three jamie do you have a quarterback oh you're baker i have cam heath do you have a quarterback no i would have taken cam if he had come back to the back end of the fifth all right best players available right now at quarterback are Jameis, Goff, Breeze, Wilson, Garoppolo, Dak, running back. I'll look at Heath's rankings for that. Tariq Cohen, that's kind of who I'm targeting here. There's no way Tariq Cohen should still be here.

Derrick Henry, Lamar Miller, David Montgomery, Rashad Penny, Austin Eckler. Derrick Henry just went. Mark Ingram went. Derek Henry went. Wide receivers, we've got Dante Pettis, Sammy Watkins, Robbie Anderson, DeeDee Westbrook, Christian Kirk. Are you guys – Jamie, you're on the clock. What are you thinking?

Let's take a look at Jamie's team. Did you just draft? Yeah, we can still talk through it, though. Okay. You went with David Montgomery. So what are you looking at? I was going to take one of the Bears running backs. I still like Montgomery better than Cohen. I'm just afraid

of Cohen's receptions coming down because Montgomery's a better receiving option than what Jordan Howard was. Plus, I don't think Cohen's going to score as many touchdowns, but as we talked about on the show today, I do think that Montgomery might be ranked a little bit too high. At least I might have him ranked a little bit too high.

Really like Dante Pettis, but 68 feels a little early. I'd like to get him next round. I'm going to take Tariq Cohen. Now, the thing is, it's a three-receiver league, and I only have two. I have Cam, Gurley, Cook, Edelman, Adams, and that's it. Too many good quarterbacks left. I'm going to take Tariq Cohen here. Yeah.

He had, what, 80-something catches last year? He was top 12 running back in PPR. Yeah, that's the thing. It's kind of like when I took the Drake at the start of the sixth. Cohen can fall off a lot and still be valuable with this pick. He had 71 catches. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry, sorry.

Yeah. Sorry, Jamie. I cut you off there. No worries. Okay, so Montgomery and Cohen go back-to-back, which is fun. And what are we doing at tight end? Jamie, do you have a tight end yet?

Nope. I know Heath has Kelsey. What are you thinking about tight end, Jamie? You haven't weighed in on this debate that I'm having is Kelsey. What are you thinking about tight end, Jamie? You haven't weighed in on this debate that I'm having with myself. I will probably just play the board. I don't have a problem with one of Jordan Reed, Mark Andrews, Austin Hooper. Hooper. Najoku Falls.

I have no problem with him either. The guys I have rank 9 through 13. The Najoku Falls sound like have no problem with him either. You know, the guys I have rank 9 through 13. The Njoku Falls sound like a very nice vacation getaway. Yes, sometimes they're good, sometimes they're not. Yeah, it depends. You got to catch up the right week. That's right. Christian Kirk off the board.

By the way, R.J. White, very smart fantasy mind. He took in back-to-back rounds Tyler Lockett and Chris Carson. He also has Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb, and Hunter Henry on his team. His first pick was Julio Jones. I dare say that R.J. White does not have enough catches. And Carson's his flex. I don't like that pick. He also has... No, I thought there was another guy in there.

Yeah, there may not be, but I think Hunter Henry can be a 70-cash guy. What do you have in perspective for you? Probably more like 60. I would say he can be a 70-cash guy. Mix in 70 catch guy? What are you on projected for him? Probably more like 60. Okay. I would say he can be

a 70 catch guy. Mixon can be a 50 catch guy. Chubb, will we say 40? Yeah. Julio, 110. Lockett's catches will come up. I don't know how dramatically, but they'll come up.

All right. Some recent picks after Jamie and I took the Bears running backs. Christian Kirk, Robbie Anderson, Jameis Winston. We are done with six rounds of fantasy drafting here. We're going to take a quick break on fantasy football today.

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So Tariq Cohen, Christian Kirk, Robbie Anderson, Jameis Winston, and Ben Roethlisberger. Those are the last five picks. So just to let you know, Adam, right now, two teams with no quarterbacks. One is Heath. One is George Maselli. One is RJ. Two teams with two quarterbacks. One is Jack Capitoro, one of our

producers, and another producer, Matthew Coca. They have Rodgers. Jack has Rodgers and Winston. Coca has Mahomes and Ryan. I am shocked. Shocked that Russell Wilson and Drew Brees have not been taken.

So let's talk. Okay, again, let's talk about quarterback. We've been doing this for a long time. They've probably been listening to us in some capacity. So I mentioned I'd love to get, you know, like Jameis and Wilson, like two of that group. If Dante Pettis, who's number one in my queue, is still available, I have to take him. I have Cam, Gurley, Dalvin Cook, Edelman, Adams, and Tariq Cohen.

It's three receivers. Three receivers really makes things a little messy here. Geronimo Allison was the first pick of round seven, and then Lamar Miller the second pick of round seven. We still have Tevin Coleman on the board. It's like, do I take a fourth running back in a three-receiver league with a flex? I already have filled my flex with Tariq Cohen. I only have two wide receivers.

I hate when there's good value at a position that I don't need, but it could be very helpful to have Tevin Coleman. Dante Pettis would be my other pick here. And then if not that, then maybe I go quarterback. But in this format, I'm fine with Cam and Phillip Rivers. I know I can get Rivers next. I might be able to get Rivers

in three rounds. Austin Eckler goes. All right, so now I'm up. Really good pick. I wanted that so bad. Yeah, that is a good pick. All right, so why don't you tell me what you think I should do?

Having one quarterback, three running backs, and two receivers who are Edelman and Adams, I have my flex filled with Cohen, so to fill out my starting lineup, I need another wide receiver. But do I take Tevin Coleman, a fourth running back, or Dante Pettis? It's a very tough call for me. I think you should take Russell Wilson. No.

Absolutely not. Goff, Breeze, Garoppolo, Dak, all still on the board. Jared Cook's not bad either. Nope. It's going to be Pettis or Coleman. I'm taking a niner. Who would you take in my situation? A fourth running back or a third receiver?

Probably Coleman. Heath? I would probably take Pettis. I'm going to take Coleman. I'm going to take Coleman. Because I take Pettis. I'm going to take Coleman. I'm going to take Coleman. Because I wanted Pettis. Jamie drafting next. You're taking?

Yep. Yeah, I already had three wide receivers, so I wanted Coleman. I love Dante Pettis. I love Dante Pettis. Oh, man. But you know, we're pretty much out of starting running backs. Sonny Michel, Rashad Penny, Latavius Murray, Miles Sanders, the Bucks guys, Darius Geis.

You could get one. Is this your quarterback turn? I don't know. You got one of your guys sitting there staring you in the face. Yeah. I mean, I still have two of my top 12 quarterbacks left. Maybe three. I'm trying to calculate how much Lamar Jackson moves up.

But I couldn't take him ahead of Goff for sure. Yeah. Recent picks after I took Coleman and Jamie took Pettis, Alshon Jeffrey off the board, and then George took Sonny Michelle, who had seven or eight catches last year. Let's take a look at George's team and see how Sonny Michelle fits. Does he have enough catches? Well, he's got Derrick Henry.

See, I don't love this pick because, oh, I hate this pick. That's his fourth running back. He's got Le'Veon Bell, Marlon Mack, Derek Henry, and Sonny Michel. He has three running backs that don't catch passes. And no quarterbacks. His super flex right now is Sonny Michel. That'll probably change. Michel will be a bench player for him.

But I think with Goff, with Wilson, with Breeze on the board, with better wide receivers on the board, I just don't think your fourth running back should be Sonny Michel. He's now your starting super flex. I just, yeah, I don't like that pick. Then Sammy Watkins was taken. Will Fuller, who's full go right now, or practicing. And then you took Rashad Pennyheath.

Yeah, that's my third running back. And I had drafted a pair of starting running backs with the same bye week and felt like there was a pretty big tier in running back drop-off, for me at least, after Penny. And so I went out and got him. Okay, and just to remind everyone, this is a PPR league, three receivers,

a flex, a super flex, and five point-per-pass passing touchdowns, two running backs. How many rounds are we going, Jamie? 17. So we have six reserves, kicker and DST as well. All right, Heath, you have made seven picks. We're now into round eight. Mike Williams went after you, took Penny.

Eric Ebron off the board. What are you thinking here? I'm going to push it a little bit further. I've got a top 30 wide receiver left here, actually a couple of them, and I'm going to go ahead and take one just for Pete Prisco drink, D.D. Westbrook. I just took a drink, man, like ease up a little bit. But I will honor it every time we say Pete's name,

I'm taking a drink of water. Also, Heath, you got a nice compliment we were all on hq today you got a nice compliment about your hair oh yeah from from who somebody said it looks like you've been drinking west coast ipas oh i'm like where did they say this somebody sent email. Oh, sent you an email to compliment my hair. I get a lot of emails personally. All right, here's what the email said. Love the HQ show. Can't believe it's free. Balazs and DeeDee Westbrook info today alone was worth the watch.

Favorite part, Hipster Heath. What a difference a haircut makes. He must be drinking West Coast IPAs now. Hipster Heath. Yeah, it is free. Check it out. Hipster Heath. Yeah, it is free. Check it out. CBS Sports HQ. Download the CBS Sports app on your Roku, Amazon Fire, Apple TV,

whatever it is. Or if you want to just sample it, go to CBSSportsHQ.com. But noon to 1 Eastern every Monday through Friday, Fantasy Football Today. Very, very helpful stuff. Dave, Jamie, and Heath on there all the time. I'll be on there every now and then. Some more picks. This round is Ebron, D.D. West the time. I'll be on there every now and then. Some more picks.

This round is Ebron, DeeDee Westbrook. We're in round eight. We're at pick 80. We just finished pick 90. Ebron, Westbrook, Daryl Henderson, not to the girly owner. I probably should have been looking at Daryl Henderson. I think I would have if I weren't doing a podcast right now. I own girly.

Darius Geis, Corey Davis, and Marvin Jones. And Jamie, you're on the clock. What do we got? I need some running back depth, so I'm going to take Latavius Murray, but there's a couple other guys I was definitely considering.

I will tell you after you pick yours next time around. Are there any tight ends I want? Yeah, I do think Jared Cook makes sense here. I do. Goff, Breeze, Wilson, Garoppolo, Prescott, Lamar Jackson, Rivers, all available. So I don't feel the pressure to take quarterback right now.

Yeah, exactly. Unless you really love one of those guys. I'm going to take... I don't know if I will or not. There's still good players left. I'm going to take... I don't know if I will or not. There's still good players left. I'm going to take Jared Cook. All right. Jamie, you've made eight picks. Let's talk about

your team. You have Baker Mayfield, Damian Williams, other running backs are David Montgomery, who's a starter for you right now, and Latavius Murray. Wide receiver, very strong. Hopkins, Keenan Allen, Calvin Ridley, and Dante Pettis. But Pettis... Yeah, no, he's your flex. Pettis is your flex. Or Latavius Murray. Wide receiver, very strong. Hopkins, Keenan Allen, Calvin Ridley, and Dante Pettis. But Pettis, yeah, no, he's your flex.

Pettis is your flex. Or Latavius. And you'll bump Latavius to the bench when you draft your second quarterback as your super flex. All right. I like it. It's pretty good. I mean, I think you have some RB2 concerns, perhaps. But, you know, four really good wide receivers to start. You like

your team? Very thrilled. Especially PPR. I agree with you. RB2 could be an issue if Montgomery doesn't live up to expectations. I will probably make Mike Davis, especially in 17 rounds, a priority. But Latavius, as we know,

could be very good standalone value. And then, obviously, if something happens to Camara, it would be a priority. But Latavius, as we know, could be very good standalone value. And then obviously if something happens to Kamara, it would be a star. I'll try and back up Williams with either Hyde or Thompson as well just to cover myself if it makes sense pick-wise. But getting those four receivers, if they do what they should do, I'm very thrilled with it. Cool.

I have Cam Newton, Todd Gurley, Dalvin Cook. Is Madison still on the board? Yes. Oh yeah. He'll be there for a couple rounds. Okay. So I'm going to take him, I think, in round nine. Take him now. Makes sense. Yeah. I'm going to take him in round nine. Just make sure you get him. You don't want to take a chance.

Julian Edelman and Devontae Adams. Do I really still only have two wide receivers? Wow. Okay, I'm going to be a little weak at wide receiver three. But I think we're at a point at wide receiver. Heath, I'll pull up your rankings here. I've got a pretty significant separation, I think,

between my top wide receiver and the rest of the guys. And there's a couple of decent options, but I don't, I think I only have one that's definitely inside my top 36. That's Tyrell Williams. Yep. Call him. Yeah.

Golden Tate looks decent to me right now, but I guess what I was trying to say was it's a, there's a big group of wide receivers, and I don't know that there are any standouts here. So it probably doesn't make sense to really reach. I love Goff at this point. He might be my pick, or I might take Madison. I do feel a quarterback run is coming soon.

I'm thinking round nine is quarterback round. So we'll see. We're at pick 10 of round eight, 94 overall. I just got this from one of our producers, so I don't know it to be 100% accurate, but apparently Ezekiel Elliott did not make the flight with the Cowboys, which means he's holding out. Well, we had decided August 6th was going to be the day we start freaking out about it.

It is the day, yes. out um so but just if you're curious okay yeah no it's it's good to know uh well the because of this breaking news the draft has kind of screeched to a halt here but i'll recap some of the latest latest picks you didn't talk about my team. We didn't talk? Alright, let's talk about your team, Heath. I really like my team. With a quarterback-less team so far. Tell me about your team, Heath. What you like about it. I've got three running

backs. Kerryon Johnson, Kenyon Drake, and Rashad Penny. I have four wide receivers. Tyree Kill, Brandon Cooks, Tyler Boyd, and D.D. Westbrook. And I have the best tight end, Travis Kelsey. Let's get into this D.D. Westbrook thing. Jamie, I know Prisco's raving.

I get it. But everybody raves about everybody this time of year. So is D.D. Westbrook really as good as he thinks? He has a chance to be. I mean, again, you're looking at a team that has little competition at the receiver spot in terms of elite guys. So the one concern would be what happens with Marquise Lee

because I don't think both those guys are – I mean, it'll be interesting to see how they mix and match them, but they're both suited to play in the slot. Suited. Yeah, and Lee missing the start of camp did cause me to push Westbrook up, and I'm feeling like it's more likely that Lee's not there week one. Sure. But what if he's there week four, you know?

Well, if he's not there week one, two, or three, he's probably not there until week seven. That's true. Yeah, you're right. He'll just go on pup. Yeah. It's not a surprise that—nobody thought Marquise Lee was going to start camp healthy. Right.

I think there was hope that he would start camp and just be like a limited participant, kind of like what we're getting with Emmanuel Sanders. Okay. But I also think D.D. Westbrook's pretty good, especially as a slot receiver. One of the things Pete talked about was how much he's improved his route running. I think there are plenty of targets to go around in this offense. He had a good catch rate last year

considering the quarterbacks he was playing with. And he's my number four wide receiver. Yeah, he is, right. I just wanted to talk about him. All right, so I like your team, but we'll see because you don't have a quarterback yet, but you still have an opportunity. And I do think the quarterbacks are starting to go, right?

So Goff just went. Peyton Barber went. Chris Thompson went. Drew Brees went. Those are not true things that happened. They're not true? Chris Thompson and Drew Brees did not go. Oh, okay.

I'm sorry. Those are auto picks that we rolled back. Who went then? Who did? We're still waiting for Wilburns to pick. Okay. Well, the quarterbacks are going to go, Heath. So get ready.

You're not picking for another 12 picks, I believe. I would probably take a quarterback here. Yeah. I would expect, and let's just look at how well. I know Adam's going to take. I'm not taking Madison, by the way. He's way down in your rankings. Miles Sanders is still on the board.

You know, it's a shame that I. Good report today. He had a good report today? Yeah, no issues. Practice. Oh, good. I would like it if less than seven quarterbacks would be drafted in this round. And I think less than seven will be drafted.

I agree. I agree. So who are you targeting? Me? Yeah. I'm not going to tell you that. Tell me. It's a mock draft.

We have to do it for our listeners. It's not going to affect my draft. They're going to know who I'm going to target when. Tell me. It's a mock draft. We have to do it for our listeners. It's not going to affect my draft. They're going to know who I'm going to target when I pick them. Or if that person gets picked, I'll say, oh, I was targeting him. I guess I really should get a second quarterback here.

I should get a second quarterback. All right. Picks flying off the board. Sterling Shepard. You're up before us. I don't know yet. Sterling Shepard and Larry Fitzgerald. Your guy is right there. Miles Sanders. Golden Tate. Drew Brees. Okay, sorry. Shepard, Fitzgerald,

Sanders were taken. Then I transferred over to my queue where Golden Tate is still there. Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Phillip Rivers. Garoppolo, you go! Kaiser takes Garoppolo. Jimmy Garoppolo was just drafted before Drew Brees and Russell Wilson. Yep.

Okay, I'm going to take Drew Brees. Why do I sound so upset about that? I don't know. You've been telling me how dumb it is that we haven't ranked so low. Yeah, listen. I'm going to use this podcast as a resource. I'm going to take Drew Brees and I'm going to try to take Lamar Jackson or Josh

Allen so I can do the home road thing with my super flex. We didn't talk about this. How many quarterbacks? Do you need to draft three quarterbacks? Well, not everybody can. Do you feel like when you go in that you need to draft three? Need is the wrong word.

I would prefer to. Why can't you just say yes? Why does it always have to be? I'm just trying to answer the question honestly in a helpful way. Jamie took Curtis Samuel. Would you have taken Garoppolo or Breeze if they were on the board? No, I wanted Samuel. I had to stay on brand.

Russell Wilson goes. Nikhil Harry goes. And now Matthew Koka is up. I had to stay on brand. Russell Wilson goes. Nikhil Harry goes. And now Matthew Koka is up. Matthew Koka very upset that Jamie took Curtis Samuel. Jamie says, my guy. But actually, Matthew Koka does have the claim to Curtis Samuel. I know, but I have to tweak him a little bit.

I got to give Koka credit. He, like, months ago came on and took Samuel. And I was like, interesting pick. But now he's like it. I love my receivers. Does, does George have a quarterback yet? No, no,

but maybe he can get a running back that doesn't catch passes. Wow. I mean, you know, George is a regular listener to our Royce Freeman, George. He took Nikhil Harry. Uh,

Heath, you are almost up James Washington off the board. And the top guy in my rankings, when we started talking 12 picks ago, about the quarterback run that was coming, is still available. So I am going to take him. That is Mitchell Trubisky, my number 11 quarterback,

and the 19th quarterback drafted in this draft. Cool. And you still will be able to get one of Dak, Jackson, Allen, Rivers, Brady, Dalton. It's amazing that 19 quarterbacks were drafted and not one of them is named Tom Brady. I know, I know. It's so weird. Oh, bomber. Lamar Jackson. I was really thinking I'd get Lamar Jackson.

I honestly consider Jackson where I took Samuel. I wonder if I would have taken Jackson if he would have given me Trubisky back. I'm still very, very, very happy to have waited that long and have Mitchell Trubisky and Dak Prescott as my starting quarterbacks. Very happy. Your starting quarterbacks are Trubisky and Prescott. Mine are Dak and Breeze. You can't have Dak because I already have.

Mine are Cam and the better version of Dak, Cam and Breeze. Cam and Breeze. JB, you have Baker Mayfield and maybe I think it's Ty. I think you should take a quarterback here. I was planning on it, but I want to see along with you having

two. Jack, who also picks in front of me, has two. But I want to see, along with you having two, Jack, who also picks in front of me, has two. Marone has two. Kaiser has two. Who else is ahead of us? You're on deck. No, I'm trying to see who has two quarterbacks ahead of me. On the other side.

Jack and Will. Does Will have two? There is a feature in the draft. Yeah, yeah. If you go to roster. I'm going to sort by draft order. Tom Brady and Phillip Rivers were just drafted. Mark Andrews was drafted before that. Royce Freeman.

This is the quarterback run. It's happening in the early 100s. We are at pick 115, and Jamie is up. He took Baker Mayfield in round, I think, four, was it? I took Baker Mayfield in round four. So the question now, I think, is does Josh Allen come back if you don't take him? I don't think so.

I think Will has one quarterback. I'm 100% going to take Josh Allen if you don't as my third quarterback. That made that easier. Well, I want the listeners to know. Jamie took Josh Allen as a second. That's because of what Adam said. Yeah, I know. I do want three, but there are

probably five guys that I'm okay with as my third. Dalton, Cousins, three for sure. Dalton, Cousins, and Stafford who I think is a little low in Heath's rankings. And then there's Darnold and Carr as well. I think I'll get one of them.

I need my third receiver. Let's take Golden Tate unless there's another one here. I can't believe it's three receiver league and I haven't taken a third receiver yet. I'm going to take Golden Tate and PPR. I'm happy about that. 116th overall. So how about the Bucs running back situation here?

Peyton Barber went before Ronald Jones. Ronald Jones went 106th. Peyton Barber went 95th. Ben took him? Yep, Ben took Ronald Jones. But 95th for Peyton Barber went 95th. I assume Ben took him. Yep, Ben took Ronald Jones. But 95th for Peyton Barber. Thoughts there? I think you have to take Barber ahead of Jones at this point.

Barber ahead of Jones. Now, if you are... I'm going to put you in my shoes again. I bet I wear bigger shoes than Jamie. And you're like three inches taller. I bet you bet you are a thousand percent wrong i wear an 11 i wear a 12 damn okay what's the question the question is size i wear i wear a 15 yeah i knew that that was okay i think dave is like what a 16 or 17 i don't know Yeah, Dave's got big feet. Dave's a big dude.

So my question is that I'm thinking right now is, do I take a third quarterback or do I take Alexander Madison? I think, honestly, I'm not taking Madison. I think you have time. You think so? Yes. Okay. Some of the best available, Marquez Valdez-Scantling.

That's a great pick for you. And again, I'm not trying to sway you one way or the other, but if he is as good as the Packers think he could be to get him as a fourth receiver this late, that's pretty good. I know, but do I go with him or do I go with a third quarterback? Because if you're in this league and one of your quarterbacks gets hurt, there's nothing on the waiver wire. And what do you do during bye weeks? It's pretty important, I think,

to have a third quarterback. But it's not the same as a 2QB league, though. It's not. And I'll give the numbers that I gave again at the beginning of the show. In this format, 5 point per pass and touchdown, full PPR.

Andy Dalton last year was the number 24 quarterback. So he'd be like the last number two quarterback. He was also, would have been the number 24 wide receiver. Number 17 running back, number 24 wide receiver. So he probably wasn't that much better than a number three receiver. But he was better. But we're past 24 quarterbacks off the board, are we? I don't think so.

Probably close to that. Yeah, I don't think so, but we're close. We're getting right around 24. Some more picks coming off the board. David Njoku, Damian Harris, and Tyrell Williams. Jack made a fantastic pick. Tyrell, 119th overall. Last pick of round 10 is coming up.

And it's Will Brinson. And I want to go back to something earlier. George's team has worked out really well. So for you hating on him for having four running backs. Bill, let's see it. I bet I disagree. It has worked out really, really well. All for you hating on him for having four running backs, let's see it. I bet I disagree. It's worked out really, really well. All right. All right.

Challenge accepted. Let's see George's team. Tom Brady at quarterback. That's his only quarterback so far. Yes. Le'Veon Bell, Marlon Mack, Juju Smith-Schuster,

Adam Thielen, Corey Davis, Evan Ingram, Derek Henry at Flex, and right now Sonny Michel at Superflex. So he'll probably get like Cousins or Dalton. It's not bad. It's not bad. I mean, he's

going to have to drop Corey Davis after week one. That's why I brought up George's team. Your Corey Davis take on today's show was one of the worst takes you've had related to fantasy football. Picking him outside of the top 100 picks is going to be a bust. He was the number 27 receiver in fantasy football last year. He was useless. He was useless. And receiver in fantasy football last year. He was useless. He was useless. And Blaine Gabbert played five games.

He was useless. I don't care where he finished. He was useless. He was so much better catching passes from Mariota. Now they've got Tannehill to back up Mariota. They have A.J. Brown and Delaney Walker. They play a schedule full of offensive juggernauts. They are not going to be able to be a 55% run team. It's just not

going to work. They're not going to be a good team. They are going to be one of the worst offenses. They are going to not be a good team. I would agree with that. That's going to lead to them having to throw more. They have a quarterback who can't throw. Competent quarterbacks.

Marcus Mariota can throw just fine. No, he can't. He's not good in the pocket. He's just not a good passer. I do not agree with that at all. Corey Davis is a second year receiver. Just had a top 30 season. He's going

into his third year breakout. He was a first round pick, and you're getting him outside of the top 100 picks. That's fantastic that's exactly what we look for in drafts is that type of league winning upside so to be fair to Corey Davis and his family to be fair he was like 115th or something in CBS I have no problem with that uh his ADP I think on fantasy football calculator 100. And that, I thought, was too early. You're right.

He's been choked up. Yeah. Somebody please say Pete's name. Sorry, I take a drink of water. So, yeah, I just think he's not a very good player. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the second-best wide receiver on his team. He's going to be the third-best receiver on his team, possibly, with the tight end Delaney Walker coming back.

117-year-old Delaney Walker. Don't matter. He was 115 two years ago, and he was good. So, I don't know. It's just... 115th is a lot better than 100th to me. It's a round in three picks in the ninth or tenth round.

It is a lot different, though. I mean, you're talking about Larry Fitzgerald and Golden Tate and guys like that that you'd be taking Corey Davis over. I don't think you should be going over. Both of those are steals. Both or all three? 101st and 115th are both steals.

Oh, I see. For Corey Davis. Speaking of steals, Jack just had a great pick with Emmanuel Sanders. Back to back. Colin Tyrell and then Emmanuel Sanders. Why is Emmanuel Sanders a good pick here? Why not?

If he's healthy, let's say he didn't have the Achilles injury, okay, just hypothetically. Who would you rank as the top Denver wide receiver? Sanders for sure. Sanders. But it's, I mean... I gotta see it. Understood. But I think, like, 122 overall? You don't think that's great value for

Sanders? I don't think it's great value. I think it's fine. Heath, what do you think? I would say borderline great. Definitely good. Would you rather have Emmanuel Sanders or Corey Davis? Well, I'd much rather have Corey Davis, obviously. Okay.

And I'd rather have Corey Davis than Courtland Sutton. But you understand that Corey Davis has more or less never been good in the NFL. He had like a four-game stretch last year where he was good. And then they discovered Derrick Henry. Why do I have to defend my take on a guy who you should have to defend, Corey Davis? You should have to defend all year long.

You're saying he's not a good pick 101. Basically, he was better than that last year. I know. You know what? This is the same thing we did during the Projections podcast where I said if he plays 16 games and you and Ben were like, yeah, well, if every running back plays 16 games, they're going to do this. He played five of those games with Blaine Gabbard.

Those don't count. Marcus Mariota, has Marcus Mariota had a 3,600 passing guard season? I think that's like right around his max. He doesn't play 16 games. You can't judge him based on full season statistics. What's his 16-game pace? All right, I'll pull it up. Yeah, I'd love to know.

Marquez Valdez, Scantling off the board after Emmanuel Sanders. Paris Campbell off the board. That means, for me, I got to do it. Dalton or Stafford? Dalton or Stafford? Andy Dalton was actually pretty good before the A.J. Green injury. He's underrated. But Stafford was very good before the Golden Tate trade.

One of those guys is getting someone back, though. So let's take Andy Dalton here as my third quarterback. Jamie, you are on the clock. Yes, I'm going to take Deontay Foreman. Oh, he's still available, huh? He distracted me. That's a good pick. 126 overall for Foreman.

Deion Lewis off the board. Heath, how are you doing with your research over there? What? Your Mariota research. I can't calculate his 16-game average. He played too many half games. That's a fair point. Okay, so we're more or less wrapping up the draft here.

Jordan Reed, Sam Darnold coming off the board. We'll let Heath make this pick, his 11th pick. He is on deck after Ben Gretch. Jamie, do you feel like how many drafts have we done together? Mock drafts, we've probably done 60 over the years. Oh, do you feel like how many drafts have we done together? Mock drafts have probably done 60 over the years. Oh, more than that. Do you feel like we've had back-to-back picks in 30 of them, in 50%? We're about to have one next week, the real one.

Oh, yeah, the flex draft, which I can't attend, by the way. You are attending. I can't attend. I'm very sorry. The only reason I come to this is to see you. I know. I know. I feel bad. I have to let Jake Sealy know I can't attend the flex draft. I can't attend. I'm very sorry. The only reason I come to this is to see you. I know. I know. I feel bad.

I have to let Jake Sealy know I can't attend the flex draft. I love doing it. It's an industry draft where we get together. We draft in person. It's the only in-person draft I get to do all year. I can't go. Why are you not coming? Good pick, Keith.

Kalen Balazs, 131. That was a bad pick. I didn't realize Justin Jackson was still available. I was actually torn on Foreman versus Jackson. I'd rather have Balazs than Jackson. You wouldn't? No. Not right now.

Deshaun Jackson. I can't go because my sister and her family are in town. Ready for the worst pick of the draft? Yeah, all right, Heath. Make the worst pick. It's the 12th round. I've got to do it, right? Corey Davis.

No. Is that Bruce? No. Quarterback? Worse than that. Derek Carr. LeSean McCoy. Oh, there it is.

He was number one in my queue. So how many quarterbacks do you have? Did we say who it was? It was LeSean McCoy. Yeah, I said LeSean McCoy. Derek Carr. How many quarterbacks do you have, Derek Carr, last pick? Two.

Jamie, you have two or three? I have two, but I'll take Stafford if it comes back to me. DK Metcalf coming off the board. See, this is why when I look at ADP and I see, you know, DK Metcalf going a lot later than he does in our drafts because a lot of times people draft two quarterbacks, no matter what. Now we're in a draft where we're drafting three quarterbacks and I will be

handcuffed, handcuffing Dalvin cook right now. All right. We're, we're going to wrap it up. Oh, RJ, Matthew Stafford.

Okay. So Jamie Stafford's off the board. Do you take Flacco, Eli Haskins, Fitzpatrick? This is pretty much where at the point where you're just going to be able to pick up a quarterback before you have a buyer. This is where I take other.

Yep. I'm going to take my first tight end. Oh, who? Make him dance, Vance. Really, Vance McDonald went after... Mark Andrews, for one. Mark Andrews, Jordan Reed. Interesting.

And my last pick is Alexander Madison, and we are 140 picks in. Well, your last pick of this show. Of this show, yes. We have several rounds left, five rounds left, but I think it's going to be pretty boring. What do you think? Should we keep it going? Should we talk about late round picks?

I mean, we can. Yeah, you know what? I think the listeners would like it. Okay, so let's talk about some late round picks. DK Metcalf and LaShawn McCoy. Who would you rather have in a vacuum? McCoy. McCoy.

McCoy. Who leads the Seahawks in touchdown catches this year? Lockett. Lockett. Lockett. Nope, it's Metcalf. That's a bet. It's a bold prediction. No, it's a big bet.

What? Oh, man. I'll spot you two touchdowns. Oh, all right. I'm in. I have to write this down. Heath, can you write this down? You're good with this stuff.

What's the bet? Lockett versus DK Metcalf. Touchdown catches. Azar gets a two-touchdown spot. So Lockett minus two versus Metcalf. Yeah. Season TDs. What's the bet?

We have to get the Heath haircut. Get the Heath haircut. That's like shave it on the sides, grow it long. That would require a lot of growth on the top. I couldn't do it. I can't do it. Yeah, I don't have that kind of hair. Other picks.

We'll figure out the bet. Muhammad Sanu, Albert Wilson. Talk about Albert Wilson. He seems healthy. He came out. The Dolphins tweeted a picture of him running back out to practice, so that's a good sign. They're also looking at

Alan Hearns, which, for what that's worth, I think could impact Wilson a little bit because Hearns probably is better suited to play in the slot than on the outside, but it's another team. It's very similar to Jacksonville. It's a wide-open receiving core. It's funny similar to Jacksonville. It's a wide open receiving core. It's funny.

We had Brian McFadden, two-time Super Bowl winning cornerback from the Pittsburgh Steelers, also played with the Cardinals. He's one of our NFL analysts here. He said, and it was funny because when you think about it, it's kind of alarming that the Jets have the best receiving core in the AFC East? No. No, they don't.

It's hard to make an argument for anyone else. Now, obviously, Edelman stands out. Are we talking just receivers or tight ends too? Just receivers. I mean, Edelman is so much better. Yeah, I mean, we have no idea what Nikhil Harry is. True. I mean, Edelman is so much better. Yeah, I mean, we have no idea what Nikhil Harry is. True.

I mean, the Patriots, you would probably say... I think most people would probably say the Patriots. Might be the Jets. Especially if you throw in Josh Gordons, maybe coming back. Well, that would change things, obviously. But, you know, if you look at it, who's the second best receiver in the AFC East? It's Robbie Anderson, I'd say.

Right. And then it's, okay, you can make a case that Jameson Crowder's third. Yeah. All right, I'll buy it. And then if you throw the tight end in, that favors the Jets even more. Agreed. More picks coming off the board. Kiki Cutie, that's who I

wanted. Jalen Samuels. Chris Thompson at 144 overall. Is Chris Thompson a little forgotten about? Once again, you fell for the auto pick. I'm just... Well, why isn't anybody taking Chris Thompson?

Hey, you're only one pick away. You might get him. I'm just... Well, why isn't anybody taking Chris Thompson? Because... Hey, you're only one pick away. You might get him. Chris Thompson. Jarek McKinnon taking Jalen Samuels. Kiki QT, yeah. So QT, we like that pick, right? Yeah.

Damn, I need some wide receivers here. I only have three. That's pathetic that I only have three in a three-receiver league. And I should have taken Marquez Valdez-Scantling because I had Devontae Adams. I don't think you had a chance. I probably should have taken him around earlier. But honestly, those are the

types of things I'd be able to do if I weren't hosting a podcast right now. Debo Samuel comes off the board. There are some decent running back options here. Justice Hill and Carlos Hyde. If you're looking for a receiver, I mean, Anthony Miller makes so much sense. I have to take Anthony Miller. Anthony Miller, to me.

Jamie, you are up. I'm going to take Justice Hill. Thank you. You're diabolical, Jamie. I'm just trying to help you out. Justice Hill, does he have value without a Mark Ingram injury? I think so.

There's a report that Kenneth Dixon may not make the final roster. Justice Hill is very fast. Very small, but very fast. All right. Dante Moncrief comes off the board. Devin Funchess off the board. That's a really good pick. I think the last three receivers picked were all very good.

That would be Anthony Miller, Dante Moncrief, and Devin Funchess. McFadden also said he's going to Steelers camp, but he said that he thinks Moncrief will be better than James Washington because he's a veteran. Yeah. Interesting. So I'm trying to figure out. It's my third time for a third quarterback pick.

Eli. I was going to pick Funchess. Eli. And so time for a third quarterback pick. Eli. I was going to pick Funchess. Eli. And so I was just doing the math. My quarterbacks have buys in week six and eight.

So you're good. They're definitely I think they could start off two and four. Two and four. So I think we could start off two and four, two and four. So I think we get into week six for sure. With Eli. Yeah.

Um, they're going to lose. There'll be two and four. They play a Cardinals at home. Kyler going for a one o'clock game on the East coast. They could maybe win that game. And so I think you can get to, I'm going to go with Eli.

I think I can get to week eight. All right. I like that thinking. I'm going to go with Eli. I think he can get to week eight. Alright. I like that thinking. That's good stuff. I had Eli Manning in a Superflex league last year and I just didn't use him. It was like he was useless. He wasn't as good as the

wide receivers or running backs that I could plug in. He was your third or your second? Oh, he was not my second. He might have been my fourth. I shuffled guys in and out because I lost someone. I don't remember who it was. More late round picks.

Deshaun Hamilton. His stock seems to have fallen since the Sanders. He's got a hamstring injury and is going to miss some time, it sounds like. Heath took Josh Gordon. Dwayne Haskins was drafted. Marquise Lee to Ben. Ben also took Matt Breida, which I know he made a good case for Matt Breida as maybe sneakily being better than Jarek McKinnon as a backup to Tevin Coleman.

Oh, I mean, you can make a case that Breida might be sneaky better than Tevin Coleman. Sure. I hope not, but sure. Marquise Lee goes. And, yeah, we're pretty thin at wide receiver. Are there any great players left, guys? Any high upside players? I mean, the two backups for the Chiefs are there.

Carlos Hyde and Darwin Thompson. Devin Singletary is there. I think, you know, I like Isabella. Two of the Dolphins receivers. There are all three Dolphins receivers. Yeah, I mean, Carlos Hyde, if Damian Williams gets hurt

and he's never had more than 50 carries in a season, I'm taking Carlos. Extend that a little bit, though, because you factored the playoffs last year. It was 105 touches. I'm taking Carlos Hyde if Jamie a little bit, though, because you factored in the playoffs last year. It was 105 touches. Okay. I'm taking Carlos Hyde if Jamie doesn't. Or RJ doesn't here. I'm up in two picks.

All right. We're going to end it now. We're losing steam. Duke Johnson, the Bears DST. And... I'm ready to go. So we'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today. Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

Hope you enjoyed this draft. Hope it was useful. Jamie took Carlos Hyde. You suck, Jamie. What do you think I was going to do? I told you that at the beginning of the draft. Did you get Darwin? Not yet.

I'm not going to. There you go, Adam. No, I took Devin Singletary. I took the Bill Stardew. I'm not taking Darwin Thompson. It's not Carlos Hyde. Carlos Hyde's in there. God, I love this team.

We all love our teams. Our teams are great. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you tomorrow. See you later. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na.