Fantasy Football Today - 07/27: Buy or Sell; Debating Rivers & Ryan; Dynasty Mock (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 27, 2018

As we continue to do mock (and real) drafts, which players do Jamey and Heath find on their teams most often (1:30)? And do they have a preferred draft slot (3:50)? We discuss the pros and cons of having an early pick. Then we go in-depth on LeSean McCoy (5:30) who does not expect to be suspended. Will his ADP start moving back up? ... A perfect QB to pair with Jameis Winston (10:50), Buy or Sell (14:00) for Michael Crabtree, an underrated RB, MIN WRs, Melvin Gordon and more ... NFL news and notes (20:15) including rookie WRs to get acquainted with, then we've got some great QB analysis for you as Philip Rivers seems to be undervalued (27:35) and the guys don't agree on Matt Ryan's value (30:28). We're also putting Jerick McKinnon under a microscope (33:51) and reviewing a startup Dynasty mock draft (40:00). Barkley or Bell in this format? ... Your voicemails at 954-689-3199 To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to the Friday edition of Fantasy Football Today. Happy Friday, everybody. Great to have you with us. I'm Adam Azer. I got Jamie Eisenberg and Heath Cummings here. Dave Richard off one more time. And guys, do you realize we are less than a week away from the start of a football Hall of Fame game in six days? Yeah, it's football season. I mean, the games will start, as you said, but the season's here.

Yeah, I know. We've got video clips of awesome things happening at you said, but the season's here. Yeah, I know. We've got video clips of awesome things happening at training camp, so it's here. Like Sammy Watkins with no dreads? I was thinking like Patrick Mahomes' bombs to Tyreek Hill. Oh, okay. Speaking of training camp, there's a Packers wide receiver you might need to know about. There are some left tackles getting contract extensions. Julio Jones got his contract figured out. We'll talk about that. We got some big news on LaShawn McCoy. We're going

to put one of the most polarizing players in fantasy under the microscope. That would be Jarek McKinnon. And we're finishing up quarterback week. Heath and Jamie are going to debate Matt Ryan. Big discrepancy in the rankings. Jamie's also going to tell you an undervalued quarterback that he recently wrote about. Let me start with this. You guys have been doing a lot of mock drafts lately and some real drafts as well. Have you found yourselves drafting one or two players a lot? Any guys that you find yourself drafting frequently? Derek McKinnon. Oh, the guy we're putting under the microscope.

Yeah, I seem to be the Julian Edelman guy. I take him a lot. And Kerryon Johnson. I take him a lot and carry on johnson and take him a lot when are you taking edelman and johnson uh format varies for both i would say round five round six and ppr for edelman seven for non-ppr and i guess about the same for for johnson instead of flipping it. Right. Okay, so a couple of mid-round picks. Heath, how about you?

Anyone you find yourself drafting a lot? Yeah, in the first five rounds, the one that's probably the most often is Lamar Miller, and that might change now as people realize that Foreman's on the pup and may not be ready for week one. He may move up into the fourth round and may be a little harder to get him, but I've taken him in the fifth or sixth round quite a bit. And then in the later rounds, I

have a lot of Gio Bernard, Hayden Hurst, Rashard Matthews. Are you worried about Matthews? Are you starting to get worried about Matthews at all? He caught a pass from Marcus Mariota today. So he practiced? He did not have a helmet on, but he did practice. I do not know what the distinction is there since they're not

in pads, but he didn't have a helmet. He did practice or catch passes for Mariota. Alright, plenty of injury stuff to keep an eye on as we get closer and closer. It's July 27th. It's unbelievable. August right around the corner. Hall of Fame game on Thursday. Heath, are you going to interrupt

your vacation to watch the Hall of Fame game next week? I am not. That was an easy answer. I will I'm sure see the Hall of Fame game next week? I am not. That was an easy answer. I will, I'm sure, see the Hall of Fame game, but I will not be watching it live. We had our first big injury today, too. We did? Who did we have? Jason Verrett.

Oh, yeah. I did have that. He barely played last year. I think he played one game. They were still very good against wide receivers. The Chargers allowed the seventh fewest Fantasy points to opposing wide receivers If you look at the really good ones they played Most of them did well

But for the most part that wasn't a good secondary The pass rush should be really good So that'll help as well And they added to their secondary They did, right, with Durbin James? Yeah, their first round draft pick Pass rush should be, you can it's the best in the NFL. Yeah.

And we'd like to charge us quite a bit defensively. Big news. Oh, wait, I had one more question to ask you. My bad. One more question. So now that you've done a lot of drafts, do you have a preferred draft slot? No. I mean, I like, and it probably comes from playing in so many leagues

and doing so many drafts, I like all the different things that go into the different positions. So I like the challenge of who comes back to you at the end of the second round if you pick early in round one. I like the mid-round group of players that you get in that round two, round three range. And I love the back end of the first round where you're, you know, potentially starting

receiver, receiver and building your team that way. I mean, for me, it's just the challenge of it all, I think, is the best part of it. Yeah, I love late picks because you're going to feel great about your first two. If you have an early pick, you might feel like you're settling for your second player. You might. You might get a guy you love or you might be like, oh, really?

Do I take Gronkowski? I'm not a big Gronk guy. You might not love the running back you're settling for your second player? You might. You might get a guy you love, or you might be like, oh, really? Do I take Gronkowski? I'm not a big Gronk guy. You might not love the running back you're taking. Do you reach for McKinnon? But I guess my next question is, so far, there's a big blank at the top. Three running backs, four running backs. How many, oh, my God, no doubt about it, can't even debate it, these have to be the first players taken guys, are there?

I think we're going to get different answers. I would say three running backs, two receivers, personally. But I understand why people put David Johnson in there. Yeah, for me it's six. It's those four running backs with Johnson, as you would anticipate the first three guys. With a big preseason, it could just be one big play. You'll see Barkley creep up there too.

Rave reviews so far for Saquon Barkley. The big news, LaShawn McCoy and general manager Brandon Bean for the Bills expressed confidence that McCoy won't be suspended. Bean said, quote, We feel comfortable that LaShawn's going to be here and ready to roll. We don't see that changing, end quote. If McCoy had just said it, it would be one thing. Brandon Bean saying it has got to be another.

Your thoughts now on LeSean McCoy. I think the investigation has to still play itself out. But, you know, the fact that he hasn't been charged with anything, that it's been sort of quiet since the initial report, that obviously lends itself to McCoy seemingly being able to play all season long. And so if you're looking at it, obviously, from just a purely football standpoint, that would be the positive. I think the interesting thing is, I don't expect his ADP ever gets back to where it was.

Even if we get to the third week, he fell to the mid-late fourth right now. I think he'll get back to the third round. I think it'll be late third. Yeah. I think until you get final, no charges,

no anything with that situation, you still look at the football stuff, and it's – when we talk about the word scary, it's scary. Age, not on his side. Wear and tear, not on his side. Team around him, not on his side. I mean, lost three offensive linemen. Could you tell me if Zay Jones is on the PUP list,

the second best receiver in Buffalo right now? McCoy. Probably the same as if Zay Jones is not on the public. But still, I mean, even in that situation. Charles Clay. Right. At what point does that help McCoy, though? Because that's why if he were not suspended,

that would be pulling me toward McCoy, where maybe he wouldn't have a good yards per carry. Maybe his efficiency wouldn't be that good. But he would just get so many touches and would be the only outlet on that team that he would just fall into top ten production. I think if it was – because you can make the same argument to a certain extent. Obviously, offensive line is different, but look what Aziga Elliott has around him. Nothing, right?

You could talk about the potential of Hearns or Gallup or whoever. Maybe it's not a fair comparison because of the O-line situation, but is there really outside of pedigree, but when you factor in where they are in their careers, like Isaiah Crowell and LaShawn McCoy, it's kind of the same situation, right? Well, the difference is McCoy has been a top 10 running back. Obviously, pedigreerees totally factored into this But you got one guy at 30 And another guy in his

Mid 20s I was shocked to see that the other day The one thing I'll say Last year he got 336 touches It probably doesn't matter If he's less efficient Or if the bills are terrible Or if their quarterback is awful

If he gets 336 touches he's going to be a top 12 running back. Right. But can he get – but that's my concern. He can get hurt. At his age, that's when these things start to happen. It's just the nature of it. So looking at your rankings of LeSean McCoy, he's around, say, the average is about 19th at running back.

Is that factoring in the suspension that might happen? Is that factoring in the suspension that might happen? Is that factoring in the possibility of a suspension? Yes, for me. Yeah, I mean, it was initially, but I think I can understand if you don't want to take McKinnon or McCaffrey or Henry, but I think you look at it as apples to apples. Forget about what they've done in their career,

what their situations are right now. Joe Mixon or McCoy. Alex Collins or McCoy. Kenyon Drake or McCoy. It feels like McCoy loses all those. Yeah, but the weird thing is kind of what he said before this report of the violence felt like we were saying McCoy loses all those. Yeah, but the weird thing is kind of what he said before this report of the violence felt like we were saying McCoy. And now even if he's not suspended, we're still going with the other guys.

It's almost like this suspension has made us evaluate even more of what we don't like about Lashon McCoy. That's what I was saying about his ADP. Right. It's like the whole perception changed. Yeah. For me, though, I mean – and I can show you because I wrote it in our first magazine, which was published in May. The concerns were always there for me. Oh, yeah, yeah.

But were the rankings that way? Didn't you have him ahead of Kenny Drake? I kept moving him down and down and down. It's just like if I keep saying I don't like him because of X, Y, and Z, why am I taking him here? So it was, okay, I don't like him here. Then I start to compare him to Henry. I like Henry better. I like McCaffrey better.

I like McKinnon better. On and on and on. It's just one of those things that just makes me concerned. I'll say the difference between him and Collins or Drake or Henry is there's not – I think there's going to be a second running back in all the other situations that get a bigger chunk of the touches than a second running back in Buffalo will if McCoy stays healthy. If he stays healthy, he's got more upside than all those guys. Totally.

But it feels like everything about it just feels bad. And that's not even the off the field stuff. All right. That's Sean McCoy. We'll obviously talk more about him as the news unfolds. There's his microscope. Yeah. Okay.

We put him under the microscope. Good stuff. Here's your tweet of the day. It is quarterback related. It is from Alec Smith. Close to Alec Smith, but not quite. Why has nobody talked about Matthew Stafford's great schedule? He's a great quarterback to pair with Jameis Winston.

Why has nobody talked about Matthew Stafford's great schedule. He's a great quarterback to pair with Jameis Winston. Why has nobody talked about Matthew Stafford's great schedule? I've been pretty sure that I did talk about that when the news broke about Jameis Winston and actually said he was one of my favorite quarterbacks to pair with Winston. He starts with the Jets, the Niners, and the Patriots in his first three games. Those three teams were in the bottom six, among the six worst teams against quarterbacks last year. Could be different this year, but I'm not sure how much better they'll be. But he does have a pretty nice schedule, guys. Matthew Stafford, should we be talking more about that with him?

I think it's a good thing to bring up. My concern with Stafford is they've talked a lot and behaved like they want to start running the ball more this year. Are they going to? He did see his volume go down last year. It was his lowest pass attempt total since he got hurt in 2010. So that's my only concern. I think you kind of know what you're getting with Stafford. To me, he feels like one of the safe, low-end, number one guys.

And so read the schedule again. Jets in week one, Niners on the road in week two, Patriots in week three. And we can stop there because this was about pairing him with Jameis and just evaluate those three. But then after that, at Dallas and home against Green Bay. And they were the second worst against quarterbacks last year. Yeah. I mean, both those teams, especially the Packers, addressed their secondary.

But I think of those five games, you'll probably get three good ones from Stafford and two okay ones. He should typically live in that 18 to 22 range. He'll have a 16-point game every now and then, a 24-point game every now and then. You look at, I'm sure, all of our rankings and probably all the industry rankings, I would imagine Golden Tate and Marvin Jones

are all in the same range, so we're expecting relatively good things from them. I think all three of us are moderately excited about Kenny Galladay, if not maybe more so, one more than the other, to play better this year. So he's going to get those guys. But I think to his point, this is why I keep taking carry on Johnson.

I really like this offensive line. I do think they're going to be more committed to the run. And so Stafford could have more 18-point games than 22-point games, and he doesn't necessarily have that high ceiling let's say like Roethlisberger, somebody that's in the same range as him or Mahomes or Garoppolo, depending on how you want to draft those guys.

By the way, we did a mock startup dynasty draft yesterday and I encourage you to take a look at that. Jamie, you took Kerryon Johnson in that draft too, right? Of course. Yeah, of course. That was round five?

Round five. That's pretty good for a rookie. That's outstanding work. All right, it's time for some buy or sell. Then we'll get back into quarterbacks a little bit. We'll get to Jarek McKinnon under the microscope and some news and notes from around the NFL. We got your voicemails at 954-689-3199.

A cool voicemail about drafting two of the elite tight ends with two of your first three picks. 954-689-3199 and your emails as well. Buy or sell. You can follow us on Twitter, by the way. I am at Adam Azer, A-I-Z-E-R, at Jamie Eisenberg, J-A-M-E-Y, at Heath Cummings Sr., at Heath Cummings SR, and at Dave Richard. Brandon says, buy or sell, Michael Crabtree will be a top 25 wide receiver. Buy. Buy. Okay.

That means the show's over. Yeah, buy. Jamie said buy. That's how you know the show's over. Crabtree, he is going to the Ravens. What was the stat I gave? The Raiders have thrown 25 more touchdown passes than the Ravens over the last three years. So he's not going to a touchdown-heavy offense, typically. You know a big part of the reason for that. Don't say Michael Crabtree.

Michael Crabtree. It could be, I guess. All right, so you're buying him as a top 25 wide receiver. Next up, John says, buy or sell, Jordan Howard is the most underrated back in fantasy this year. So, but that doesn't mean he's bad. Yeah, I don't, like, I think he's being drafted about where he should be. Maybe just a little bit late in some drafts and maybe a little late in PPR because they've been kind of talking up how much he's improved as a pass catcher in the offseason. But he might be slightly underrated, not the most underrated.

Right. Who's the most underrated running back? Kerryon Johnson? Rex Burkhead? Could be Chris Carson. Could be Chris Carson, yeah. Yeah, I think amongst the top 25, the most underrated for most of the offseason has been Lamar Miller. Maybe.

All right, from Steve. Given 16 healthy games, buy or sell, Stefan Diggs will outscore Adam Thielen in PPR. I love Stefan Diggs, but I don't think he'll have more catches than Thielen. I like Diggs better in non-PPR. I'm going to sell it, but I'm not saying that because I don't think it's possible. That's not what I expect. If fantasy owners are right when they draft both Vikings wide receivers in the third round of a 12-team league,

then the owner that gets Kirk Cousins is going to have the steal of the draft. I mean, two wide receivers in the first three rounds, in round three. That's a big boost to Kirk Cousins. I'm concerned that they're going to live up to that. Maybe one. You're concerned about Cousins, right? That's been your argument all along that he doesn't support

the receiver. Yeah, well, I'm concerned about Diggs and Thielen living up to third-round value. Well, how would they have finished last year? In that range. Right, so... And they have a better quarterback. And they have a better quarterback. They do have a better quarterback. They do have Dalvin Cook healthy. Running game, I think, will be

better. But do you really think Cook's more Running game, I think, will be better. Do you really think Cook's more of a factor in the passing game than what McKinnon was last year? Not necessarily, but I think he's just more carries. I don't know. He's not going to out-carry McKinnon and Latavius, but maybe more rushing touchdowns. Yeah, look. I've said it before.

He's never produced a top 20 wide receiver, Kirk Cousins. He's spread the ball around a lot. So, yeah, I don't know. That's my concern. It's certainly valid. I mean, look, realistically, them repeating their production from a year ago, it's hard to say that's sustainable.

It's also hard to say that Kyle Rudolph won't become more of a factor, especially in the red zone, like he was two years ago. Dalvin Cook, like you said, could be a big part of it. But I just think you look at the talent for both those guys, it's hard to avoid being excited about them. Not necessarily as, you know, the upper echelon receivers, but in this, I would hope they're closer to round four than round three. I know what their ADP is right now, but, you know,

the later you can get them, clearly the better off you are. Does Kirk Cousins fit one of these two receivers better than Case Keenum did? Does the addition of Kirk Cousins benefit either Diggs or Thielen? I think it benefits both of them. They made so many catches on balls that were not accurate from Case Keenum last year. Cousins is a more accurate quarterback. All right. From Steve, buy or sell.

Melvin Gordon's efficiency goes up, and he has a blow-up season leading the league in rushing. Melvin Gordon. I mean, I'll buy it, but it's hard to say he's going to be better than a lot of guys in front of him. That's a problem. Is this going to be the year Melvin Gordon gets more than four yards per carry? Yes.

I mean, you would think so, but it's – I don't know. I'd like to know the reasoning behind why because it's three years in a row. Let's see how many of them are healthy by the time week one gets here. Okay. All right, one more. I shouldn't have laughed at that, Chargers fans. I apologize. From Fantasy Confucius says, Buy or sell, Kenny Galladay will finish as the second best Lions wide receiver this year.

Kenny Galladay, second best Lions wide receiver. I don't like predicting injuries, so I'll say no. Yeah, sell. So is Dave still the Gallaudet guy? I think Heath has become the Gallaudet guy. Oh, really? I may be the Gallaudet guy. I didn't know that I was becoming the Gallaudet guy.

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We're calling this unofficially our 10th anniversary season. Some of you have been here since the very beginning. That's awesome. And some of you are new listeners, so welcome aboard. Injuries, news, and notes. We talked about Jason Verrett for the Chargers. Is there anything you'd like to add as he looks like he has torn his Achilles? No, it just sucks. I mean, you know, this team is, I think, being given some Super Bowl consideration.

There's a lot to like about the Chargers. But this is now two injuries to starters before the first preseason game with Hunter Henry. So it sucks. More notes. The Indianapolis Star thinks that sixth-round pick Deion Kane, wide receiver, could push for some serious snaps. There's opportunity here for both of these guys. Yeah, I think if I'm not mistaken, both guys are benefiting with their roles currently because of injuries. I believe Chester Rogers is battling something, and Geronimo Allison is as well for their respective teams.

But like he said, there's opportunity because most teams are playing three wide receivers. So you could see if Rogers for the Colts and if Allison for the Packers are healthy, they could still get on the field quite a bit. Meanwhile, Randall Cobb is 100% healthy as training camp starts, and he's going 88th overall in CBS Sports Leagues. Is that a good ADP? Yeah, you were on this from the beginning, Adam. He's in line for a big year.

Aaron Rodgers has typically, when he's been right, had two top 24 receivers, and Cobb could certainly fill that role. Now, he's never had a tight end, the pedigree caliber of Jimmy Graham. But if Cobb can find his way to six-plus touchdowns, he could get 900 yards and I'll say 70 catches. So would you rather have Cobb or Chris Hogan? They're going very similarly. I still like Hogan's upside. Me too.

But Cobb's not far behind. Okay. It's Cobb, Hogan, Cooper Cup all going in the same range. I feel like, Jamie, you like all those guys. I do. Cobb will be second. Hogan will be first. I drafted Cobb in that Dynasty League last year.

I was surprised. How old do you think Randall Cobb is? 28. 27. Damn it, Heath. He feels older. He does feel older, yeah. Well, I think he actually feels older, too.

His body, certainly. Right, I mean, he did have an injury earlier this offseason, so should not be completely discounted. But right now, Randall Cobb is healthy, and he's probably going to be a draft riser. The Falcons gave Julio Jones an additional $2.9 million for this season. The Titans signed Taylor Luan, their left tackle, to a five-year $80 million deal. They signed Delaney Walker to a two-year $17 million extension.

The Falcons signed Jake Matthews, their left tackle, to a five-year $75 million extension, just short of what Taylor LeJuan got. And Sammy Watkins cut his dreadlocks. I like it. I think it looks good. Just like a chief. I'm sure he's pleased about that, that you are happy with his record. Let him know. Are you going to see him?

Where are you going on your vacation? Charleston, South Carolina. So I don't think I'll see him. If I do see him, we've got problems. What's in Charleston, South Carolina. Oh, they don't. So I don't think I'll see them. Anywhere there. If I do see them, we've got problems. What's in Charleston? Very nice craft beer scene. Beautiful, beautiful downtown on the water. We're going to do some kayaking.

It's going to be a good time. Now, would you ever go on vacation if there weren't breweries? Yes. That's not the whole. The reason we're going there is that we're – this is our 10th anniversary, and that's where we went when we got married. Oh. We got married in South Carolina. Happy anniversary.

Thank you. Happy anniversary, man. It's not for a couple months, but I can't go during football season, so this is now. All right. Have fun. Hey, listeners, tweet Heath with Charleston, South Carolina suggestions at HeathComingSr. Sorry, Heath. No, that's okay.

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As long as you win more than 10% of the ones you play in, you're in good shape. Nice. All right, finishing up quarterback week. This doesn't need to be expanded on too much, Jamie, but if you want to just chime in. We talked about Carson Wentz for about 10 minutes yesterday, but you agree with Heath. Carson Wentz as the fifth quarterback off the board. It's just too early. Too early, especially with the Alishon Jeffrey news.

Hopefully Jeffrey's ready for week one, but they're still talking about that. Wentz has to prove he's ready for week one, so he's looked good in the early stages of camp, first couple days, throwing the ball well. But if he doesn't have Jeffreyffrey if he's still not the guy that we saw a year ago taking him as the fifth quarterback on the board now i still have him ranked as a number one guy um i moved him i think we had the conversation the other day i moved him behind luck so i would take luck over once um it's just a matter of uh at what at what point do i stop dropping him so right now he's eighth

um i could see him falling behind like right now i'm ahead of roethlisberger i could see him moving behind roethlisberger too i uh and you really disliked my auction value that i gave for carson winchester day and so i looked and it wasn't able to squeeze it in at the end of the show but like dave still has him as a top five quarterback and has him for six dollars yeah what did i say i said four dollars right jamie has him for three top five quarterback and has him for $6. What did I say? I said $4, right? Jamie has him for $3. Okay. So my number is really not that crazy.

It was $1. $1. But that's the way most of my low-end, number one, high-end, number two quarterbacks are a dollar. I was talking about the Andrew Luck situation a few years ago. That's what happens in auctions. I mean, that's kind of true. It's just when you give somebody the $1 stigma, it's almost like they're a draft afterthought. They're like a late round pick. I don't think

Carson Wentz is that. Yeah, I do. Well, Jamie thinks that Philip Rivers is undervalued. And if Jamie thinks that, then you know Heath agrees because Heath has Philip Rivers 10th. By the way, I'm watching a video of Jamie Eisenberg right now. You look good, buddy. Thank you. You're talking about Kirk Cousins video of Jamie Eisenberg right now. You look good, buddy. Thank you. You're talking about Kirk Cousins. Let's talk about Phillip Rivers. Jamie and Dave have him 16th and Heath has him 10th. You did an ADP review, Jamie, and that article's up right now on CBSSports.com

looking at quarterbacks and Rivers was a guy that stood out to you as undervalued. I wish my top 10 was 16 guys. There's just so many good quarterbacks you know and and i i totally get the i don't want to take the chance on luck and whence coming back from injury mahomes and if he's going to be good garoppolo if those five games were fluky you know there are a lot of people just i'm tired of that and they'd rather wait for Phillip Rivers. And I glanced at Dave's

quarterback bye week story. And it's interesting. If you look at it, he has Phillip Rivers as almost a great bye week replacement for every quarterback that's on a bye during the season. Well, why not just take him as your starter? Like, that's just the way to go. So, I mean, we've had this conversation before. I think Rivers is a great number one quarterback. I think he's amazing to wait for on draft day. I don't think he will finish 16th. I just like the ceilings better for some of these other guys. We still have to see what they're going to do to replace Henry, you know, if they do sign Gates or, you know, just kind of play it out with what they have. But there are some things that are working against him. I do think Melvin

Gordon will be better. We have to get better production from Mike Williams and Tyrell Williams because both were not great last year. It just can't be Keenan Allen and then see what Phillip Rivers does. But he's still consistent year in, year out. You know you're getting 4,500 passing yards, 30 touchdowns, and if he limits the interceptions like he does more times than not, he's going to be a top 12 guy. know so he's he's just easy guy to wait for and in that startup dynasty draft adam i i had a i didn't really know how i was going to approach quarterback in round 11 there's tom brady i didn't

have a quarterback yet i figured why not then in round i think maybe 14 i took baker mayfield so now i have my veteran guy for now, my young guy for the future. Let me take a third quarterback. There was Phillip Rivers. I think it was around 16 or 17. So I have a 41-year-old quarterback, a 37-year-old quarterback, and then the number one overall pick. Yeah, Rivers has been a top 12 quarterback five straight seasons.

And in three years with Ken Wisenhunt as his offensive coordinator, he's been a top seven quarterback. Wisenhunt's done great things for the Chargers offense. And Heath, you've got him 10th. That's pretty high for Rivers. I mean, not based on where he finishes, but based on rankings, I assume that you're one of the highest guys on Rivers. Yeah, I would assume

that I am, and I pretty much agree with everything Jamie said. I just... There are guys with more upside than Phillip Rivers. His floor is a lot, lot higher than theirs is. Yeah. Matt Ryan. Let's talk about this.

Dave and Jamie have Matt Ryan 14th, and Heath has him 23rd, which I feel like is a little bit lower than the last time we talked about Matt Ryan. I think you had him 21st, and I was like, what's up with that? Made me mad, so I moved him down a little more. 23rd. Jamie, I'll let you kick it off. Matt Ryan, 14th, nine spots higher than where Heath has him. I just like the two things that, for me, that I keep focusing on.

One, they gave him what I hope is a better weapon. It's unproven. But Calvin Ridley, I think, with a first-round grade, a lot of people consider him the best rookie coming out. So I just think that's an upgrade over what Taylor Gabriel was a year ago and hopefully what Taylor Gabriel was two seasons ago when he was playing as a good third option. The other thing for me is Ryan's got a pretty good track record

of his second season with an offensive coordinator. I think taking hold of Steve Sarkeesian's system, Ryan did not play well last year from a lot of different metrics, but I don't think Julio Jones only scores three touchdowns. I think that their receiving core improves just by nature of Ryan finding the end zone better. So if I liked him even more, he'd be there, and maybe I should put Phillip Rivers ahead of him.

But the fact that he has weapons where Rivers is losing weapons, I like Ryan's situation a little bit better. And Heath? I didn't go back and check this, but I think it almost has to be true. In the last five years, there's one year that Matt Ryan's been better than Phillip Rivers?

So 2016? The 2016 season, which was a remarkable season, and we knew at the time. Nope, two years. Two years. Two? 2014, Ryan was eighth and Rivers was tenth. Ryan had 4,700 yards that year.

That was a really good year for him. And that's kind of my big concern is he had that four-year stretch from 2012 through 2015 where he had at least 614 pass attempts all four years. And if I thought there was any chance that was happening, he would fly up my rankings. The last two years, it's been 534, 529 attempts. And he does not throw touchdowns at a high enough rate except for that one magical 2016 season

to where I think he's going to increase his touchdowns by 25% this year. That only means he throws 25 touchdown passes. Yeah, I would take the over. Um, one thing, uh,

so Pete Prisco is starting his camp tour and it started with the Falcons. You could see some of what he did on CBS sports HQ. He spoke to Matt Ryan. He spoke to Steve Sarkeesian and Sarkeesian talked to him about, he didn't get to call a play for Julio Jones until week one because Jones was hurt during training camp. That's big. That is big. I like Calvin Ridley a lot.

And Danny Cannell joined me and Dave a few weeks ago, and he loves Calvin Ridley. He loves Matt Ryan too. He thinks Matt Ryan's going to win. What did he say? That Matt Ryan's going to win the MVP? After they drafted Ridley because I did the draft show with him, he said Matt Ryan will win the MVP. Now he's not winning the MVP, and obviously I understand he's counter to that,

but he's not winning MVP with 25 touchdowns. He's going to have to be at least 30. So take that for what it was worth. I think that the nice thing about Ryan and Rivers, it's a great combo. You could go into your draft with those two guys and be pretty happy with it. Yeah, all right. Let's put a second or a third round pick under the microscope. First of all, does Jarek McKinnon deserve to be a second or a third round pick in a 12-team league?

Yes. He deserves to be a third round pick. You know that was a question, right, Jamie? Like second or third, you had a pick. I would take him to third. I would take him to second round. Okay. And obviously, again, I've said it a lot.

I'm very excited about it. Yeah, you are. And we're starting to see him go sometimes like late second round. So we did that industry draft, and Scott Pianowski, I hope I'm pronouncing his last name correctly, from Yahoo Sports took him at 21 overall. And, you know, as much as I like him, I wouldn't do it there, but I applaud Scott for finding a player that you like

and being aggressive and taking him. Now, Scott, on Twitter, after I posted the results, he said he didn't feel happy taking him in the second round, but, you know, as I'll say all the time, if there's a guy you like and you think you're going to miss out on him, take him when he's available to. That's kind of what I was saying about having an early pick, just a quick aside.

You might be very happy with, you got Zeke or Bell or Gurley or Johnson or whatever. Man, not to take McKinnon in the second round. You just might feel like you're reaching a little bit. You shouldn't take him there. That's the point. Well, but who would you take there?

Who would you take at the end of round two ahead of Jarek McKinnon and feel really excited about? Hilton, Baldwin, Kelsey. Yeah. Baldwin, because he was under the microscope yesterday. Baldwin, you feel very excited about, or you feel like he's kind of philip riversy i feel like baldwin without 20 touchdowns of the seahawks offense there is going to benefit tremendously okay so his second best year ever like he had that 14 touchdown uh year and and when did that happen without jimmy graham without jimmy graham back to mckinnon sorry what's not to like about to McKinnon. Sorry.

What's not to like about McKinnon? We know he's got the opportunity. What are the negatives? We've never seen him get more than 159 carries in a season. We haven't seen him over the last two years be very efficient on a per carry basis. Not as efficient as the other running backs in the offense. And it could be a situation where he and Matt Breida are kind of like Devontae Freeman and Tevin Coleman on an offense that isn't as good as the Falcons. Okay, I'm going to give you some things and tell me what they mean to you.

As Heath said, Jared McKinnon averaged 3.8 yards per carry, Dalvin Cook averaged 4.8 yards per carry on that same offense. Does that mean anything to you? Dalvin Cook's better than Jared McKinnon. It's a big difference though. Okay, that's fine. Does that mean anything to you? Dominick was better than Jared McKinnon. It's a big difference, though. Okay, that's fine. It doesn't have to mean anything. Carlos Hyde caught 59 passes last year, and he only caught 10 in five games

with Jimmy Garoppolo. And Jamie Biggs up a great point. Kyle Juszczyk had 17 catches for 205 yards in those games, but he is still there. Does that mean anything to you in terms of what we can expect from McKinnon as a pass catcher? I mean, obviously it's something to take into consideration, but I'd be very surprised if McKinnon is not a big part of the passing game.

I think he will completely. I wonder, like my only concern with George Kittle was Garrett Selleck's involvement those last five games, and if George Kittle was getting a larger percentage of those tight end targets, and I hope he does, I think he should, I'd be a lot more excited. I might be a little worried that this offense is very efficient because they spread the ball around so much. But that means that McKinnon gets a smaller percentage of the targets

at running back than we expect. They are replacing 240 carries from Carlos Hyde and 59 catches, so that's a good thing. But last thing I want to get your opinion on, offensive line. They drafted Mike McGlinchey in the first round. They signed Weston Richburg at center. Do they have a good offensive line? What do you think about their line? It's good.

It's not great. Yeah, I think there's a wide range of outcomes on that one. I'm not sure we totally know yet, and we may not until a couple weeks into the year. Devontae Freeman or Jarek McKinnon? I'm in the minority, but I'm going to take McKinnon. And a lot

of it has to do with the guy who made Devontae Freeman great, and that's Kyle Shanahan. I'll take Freeman. I think they could be similar, but I've seen Freeman do it for a couple of years now, so I'll take him. And I understand that. And it's the same thing, like you said, Heath, about McCoy. You know what he's capable of doing, so take the devil you know versus the devil you don't.

But Shanahan's track record. I mean, you go back to Steve Slayton, Devontae Freeman twice, Carlos Hyde. I mean, he gets great production out of his running backs. And I think it's part of the reason why, whether you're in the McKinnon camp or not, take Matt Breida with a mid-round pick, late-round pick, whenever he's available to you. Chris in our Dynasty draft took Joe Williams. He's going to have an opportunity. There's that kid that they got off of waivers last year from Tampa Bay.

His name is escaping me. he was a rookie that they drafted he's fourth on the death chart somebody's going to have a chance for big numbers here now again I think you look at what Freeman was in Atlanta what Carlos Hyde was last year I think those guys are probably better players than Jerick McKinnon

but I just like the situation for McKinnon. Like there's nobody as what potentially Matt Breida could be or if you like Joe Williams. And one of the stupidest things that I was certainly guilty of last year was where Joe Williams ended up being drafted by comparison to Deion Lewis. One of those things I want to punch myself in the face for. But there's going to be somebody on this backfield that produces good, if not great, numbers. And I think McKinnon doesn't have a lot of competition for what his role could be. Carlos Hyde averaged 3.9 yards per carry last year and caught 59 passes, as I've said like six times, did not have one receiving touchdown.

And it's very conceivable that McKinnon could have more than 59 catches. He had 51 last year for Minnesota. Carlos Hyde finished, I think, eighth in non-PPR and ninth in PPR. So that should mean something for you as well. Anything else you want to say about Jarek McKinnon? No. All right. Microscope has been lifted.

Jamie, the Dynasty mock draft, you wrote up the review of it. It's a startup Dynasty mock draft. Right. So just to give you an example, Keith started one in our office last year, a startup Dynasty draft. It's starting a Dynasty league clearly from the ground up. And so the thing I think you have to approach the startup dynasty draft is and he's correct me if i'm wrong but the there's kind of two schools of approaches draft maybe with more

of an eye toward winning now and seeing what unfolds in year two or year three or trying to win now but also keeping an eye on year two or year three or, you know, year five or six, you know, whatever the case may be. So I thought the one team, and I wish he was here to sort of talk about it, but Dave seemed to have a little bit more of an eye toward win now because, like, he took, I think it was round five, Demarius Thomas, who's 30 and, you know, kind of the writing's on the wall that they may replace him next year. He took Larry Fitzgerald in round six. And I went and I looked at Heath's dynasty receiver rank

because I think he had them in the 40s. Right. Or his ages. So there were receivers that you would probably lean a little bit more toward drafting in those ranges than Thomas and Fitzgerald. Where Dave took them as starters for his team. But it's sort of the

where you manage the picks determines I think what you're looking at I took Corey Davis in round 4 and remember we kind of jumped on Jake Seeley for doing that in the industry draft but here it makes a lot more sense because if Davis hits he's a potential star

for 5 years well I think Dave had that same approach in the league that we started last year. He took some really old guys a lot earlier. He took Brady. He took Jordy Nelson. He also had a great year in that league and was the two-seed going into the playoffs. So it worked, except

for the fact that he lost in the playoffs. Right. But again, what's his outlook moving forward? Not great. The way that I approach Startup Dynasty is I'm going to lean young when there's a decision. Like, for example, at the fifth pick, it was between Alvin Kamara and David Johnson.

There's a three-year gap between those two players. Johnson's 26, Kamara's 23. If you were to say next year, those two guys, with Ingram being a free agent, who's the starting running back on their respective teams? I would say both of them. And if Kamara comes through this year playing like he could potentially do, he's going to be

drafted ahead of David Johnson. So where the production could be somewhat close this year, especially in half PPR scoring, I took Kamara. I'm a little surprised you didn't take Kareem Hunt. I like Kamara better than Hunt. Okay. Well, that makes sense then.

I guess I'm not surprised. Yeah, but it's like, just to give you some examples of things that happened. Deshaun Watson was the first quarterback drafted. He's 22. Aaron Rodgers is 34. Yeah. And I don't know that I agree with that. I don't either, but I'm just saying things that happened.

Yeah. Travis Kelsey was drafted ahead of Gronk. There's a one-year age difference between those two, but you know what the injury situations have been. There's a what? How many years is different? One. Between Kelsey and Gronk? Kelsey's 28, Gronk is 29.

I was surprised when I saw that, too. What? Their bodies are older than that. Gronk's body for sure is older than that. But yes, they're only one year. I was looking at several different dynasty rankings yesterday. Some people like Ertz better than

Gronk too, if you're looking at the three tight ends. That's another player. Dave Tuck was Gronk. Kelsey was already off the board, but Dave took Gronk in round three. I'm trying to think of some other examples. I should clarify that dynasty leagues are different than keeper leagues. You're keeping most of your roster.

So, you know, keep that in mind. The guys, just to give you an example of that. So Heath started a diner startup dynasty league last year for our office. And we do it with ID players. You could,

you could stash two players on a taxi squad. So if you want to promote those players to be active roster and we do a six round draft you have to essentially cut eight players so of was it 30 30 man roster or 28 they can be up to 32 with the with the ir and the taxi squad taxi squad there's 28 active spots right so you have to make some decisions and you know you again you could cut up to eight guys if you want to tell me if you agree with this. So what I've noticed in my Dynasty League, I have an okay team. I think I've made the playoffs two years in a row.

It's a standard scoring league, and I have good running backs, so that helps. Quarterback is the position I value the least. I feel like that's the one I can find in free agency. Because Dynasty, it's tough to find guys on waiver sometimes. You know, my league is like a 25-man roster. So almost everybody's owned. But occasionally a quarterback will slip through the cracks, or you might be able to buy low on a quarterback because, you know,

they're not being used on the bench of some other team. Or you can draft them in rookie drafts. Like I took Mitch Trubisky last year, and now I'm rolling with him this year. But I just feel like I definitely want to make sure I've got wide receiver and running back locked up and feel secure about that. And quarterback in Dynasty League, just like a seasonal league, less of a priority. Six points for passing touchdowns? Yeah. Honestly, I can't remember.

I think four. Okay. I think four. Four, I would definitely. Six, I can't remember. I think four. Okay. I think four. Four, I would definitely. Six, I'm not sure. The one thing I'll say is tight end is the position where I think you can get hurt pretty quick because every year we generally have a couple of running backs and a couple of wide receivers that you want to take at the start of that rookie draft

and you feel confident about them producing for you right away yeah with tight ends a lot of times it takes a couple of years so i think you have to be a little bit more careful of what you do at tight end i think but you know that's a great point with quarterbacks though kind of what you mentioned when you do the rookie drafts the rookie drafts are really important in the dynasty league that's how you replenish the farm system right quarterbacks go kind of late compared to where they go in an NFL draft. The number one overall pick, he might be a late first-round pick in a rookie draft or a second-round pick because it's just loaded with wide receivers and running backs.

And they went late here. I mean, like I said, I got Baker Mayfield in like round 14, which I was expecting him to be gone by that point. Lamar Jackson was the first one drafted. I think he went like round 12. So you still saw the veteran guys go get selected ahead of them. And I will say this, because he may have slipped. I don't know if he was on your radar or not, Keith,

but he was for me and I drafted him, was Hunter Henry. So as injuries unfold depending on when you do these drafts, and again, startup dynasty versus already established dynasty leagues, don't forget about you're not just drafting this year. He was the first tight end that I drafted was Hunter Henry. So I didn't go in with the idea of I'm drafting my starter first. I went in with the idea I'm drafting my long-term tight end first, and then I was able to get Delaney Walker.

So I have a guy for this year, but I also have, to Heath's point, he's established. As long as he's healthy, he could be – I don't know where you have him ranked. Top five next year? Well, I would think next year, yeah. I don't have him in the top five right now, but that's just because you're going to miss him for an entire year. Right, but factoring in his 2019 role and beyond?

Right. Yeah, Dynasty Leagues are fun because pick 67 through 70, four wide receivers, Larry Fitzgerald and three rookies, DJ Moore, Anthony Miller, Calvin Ridley. That's just fun. It's a personal decision that you have to make for your team, and Dave was the one who took Fitzgerald. Jamie took DJ Moore. So we should, for fun purposes, talk this out on the air. So Heath made me a Dynasty trade offer for one of his favorite players, Hayden Hurst. Do you think you'll offer me a second-round pick next year, right?

Yep, second-round pick next year. Okay, so I was looking at this, and I have an offer for you. Oh, no. This is not me offering it to you. This is me thinking it through. So feel free to mull it over if I do extend it to you. So I was thinking of offering you Jameis Winston. I like Jameis Winston.

Mark Ingram. I like Mark Ingram. And Hayden Hurst. I like him too. For Patrick Mahomes. I can't trade track. That I figured was a stumbling block. But Patrick Mahomes, Kerryon Johnson, and Hunter Henry.

That is interesting. That's terrible. Oh, my God. He's ripping you off. Are you kidding? He doesn't have a tight end right now. I don't believe it. I think Ricky Seals-Jones is your best guy, right?

I looked at it. Yes. Ricky Seals-Jones is my best tight end currently. And how is that ripping him off? All right. So you'd be giving up Jameis and getting Mahomes. Uh-huh. Pretty even in a up Jameis and getting Mahomes. Pretty even in a Dynasty League.

I actually have Mahomes ranked higher in Dynasty League. I like Mahomes better. You'd be giving up Ingram and getting Kerryon Johnson. He's not a Kerryon Johnson guy. Okay, but you have to take Kerryon Johnson ahead of Ingram in a Dynasty League, right? Depends. Like if you think Ingram has two or three more years, Johnson could flame out Amir Abdullah style. I guess he could.

But Ingram's not going to be on the Saints next year most likely. And you'd be giving up Hurst and getting Hunter Henry. I think it's an Acer trade. It's not an Acer trade. Now, I am preying on the fact that I know Heath loves those three guys. Right, right. It just happened to work out that several of he's players one of which he's already made me an offer for are on my team yeah that is not an offer that i would accept but it

is an interesting it's not like i'm offering him julie nettleman right right all right heath uh don't do it buddy so i've yeah i've turned that down last day the trade offer i made is still not there not been accepted or declined no and it And it's funny because Tahit's setting up the league. I put Hunter Henry right into my taxi squad because I have – Hayden Hurst. Hayden Hurst in my taxi squad. Excuse me. I already thought I had him.

It's easy to get those two confused. I put Hayden Hurst right into my taxi squad because I have Jack Doyle, the great Jack – no, but I have Trey Burton. Oh, okay. There you go. So strength at tight end. I was a little surprised that Le'Veon Bell went ahead of Saquon Barkley. The first four picks were Gurley, Zeke, Bell, Barkley. Check out the results.

I honestly thought I was taking Odell Beckham. Fifth? Mm-hmm. Would you have taken Le'Veon or Odell if they were both there? I would have taken Odell. Okay. So Le'Veon would not have been a top five pick for you in Dynasty? I thought it was actually going to go the first two picks as they went, Barkley and Kamara.

Let's hear from our listeners. Finish the show, send you off into the weekend with some voicemails and maybe some emails. 954-689-3199. 954-689-3199. 954-689-3199. All right, no name on this one, but a good question. Here we go. You're smart, jacked, dumb, and bad. This is Malcolm from California calling.

And how's this for a draft strategy in line with your tight end talk? Taking two of the top three tight ends, so you go running back or wide receiver with your first pick, you get Gronk in the second, and then Kelsey or Ertz in the third. I've mocked it out a couple times now. There's pros and cons to it, but I'd like to hear you guys discuss what you think. Thanks, guys. Bye.

Okay, that was actually Malcolm in California. Sorry about that. He said, Dear Smart, Jack, Dumb, and Bad. And I guess I would be dumbass out of those four. Yeah, what do you think about taking two tight ends, rounds two and three, Gronk and Kelsey? For the record, they both would have been top 12 wide receivers. Gronk would have been number seven in non-PPR, Kelsey 12th.

And they both would have been right around 9th or 10th in PPR last year if they had been wide receivers. They basically produced like A.J. Green and Tyreek Hill. What do you think? I think this was the thing that caused Adam to call me an idiot on the podcast two years ago. You can't start a tight end in the flex. You're an idiot.

Yeah, but that was like a mid-round tight end, right? That was Travis Kelsey as my flex. Okay, that was before he was good. Right before he was good. He was good that season. Anyway, I don't hate it. Yeah, I mean the best thing you're doing is taking away an elite tight end from another team. But that I hate.

Why? That that I hate. Why? That theory I hate. Because what if Burton is elite? What if Hayden Hurst has a big season? What if, what if, what if? Then you didn't do that to anybody. No, you did. You took Travis Kelsey away from somebody.

No, but you also took a flex position away from yourself that you may not be able to play. Don't think about what you're doing to someone else's team. Right. It's the same thing like drafting to trade. Never draft to trade. You have to get the best players for your team. Do you like it or no? I like it if I see the rest of the team.

I don't love it, but I don't think it's bad. Okay. I mean, it's the same thing as just saying, I want to take two of the top 20 best players or two of the top 30 best players. There's nothing wrong with that strategy. Yeah, exactly. All right, next voicemail.

All right, guys, I need the regulators here. I've got a big problem. Got a long time late, 10 years plus, same guys every year, a few changes, but the same core guys. One of the core guys tells me now, despite us having the same draft day every year, Labor Day Sunday, that same time and day every year, he tells me now that he's going to be in Mexico until that day. So the question is, should he cut the vacation short with his wife and make it back in time for the draft, or maybe we just kick him a bunch of kickers.

Whatever you guys decide, we'll go there. What do you think, regulators? What should we do with this guy? He's going to Mexico with his wife. Selfish jerk. So 10 years, they've been doing the draft the same day, same time. Yes. That's pretty cool.

That is pretty cool. You can't go out of town come on i they don't like it's all on a draft board there's nothing online i don't know that that's this 1987 i mean we we've had we've had situations like this before for i shouldn't say there have been people i know that have had situations like this before where they couldn't make it to a live draft, and they spent – and this was an auction. They had to spend the entire time on the phone.

So like it'd be going once, going twice. $3? You just hear something through a speakerphone. It's on him. I think you hold the draft as you normally would, and he has to find a way to – whether it's send in your picks. Here's your list. Yeah, make a list. Queue it up. He has to find a way to, whether it's send in your picks, here's your list. Yeah, make a list.

Queue it up. He has to find a way to get it done. He should not hold up the nine or 11 other owners that are in this league. And he should be able to find a representative to send for him. He could also do that. He could do a proxy. Adam is available. If you want to pay Adam to go to your draft.

I will do it for money. Well, if it's in the tri-state area, I will do it for a huge fee. What is the tri-state area? If somebody gave you $50,000 to go-state area, I will do it for a huge fee. What is the tri-state area? If somebody gave you $50,000 to go draft for him, would you do it? I guess I'll do it for a discounted rate, sure. Would you go to Mexico and take over for him so you'd be spending time with his wife, and then he'd have to go to the draft? Am I also getting $50,000, or am I just going to go to –

Yeah, sure. I got a baby now. I need that money. Can you explain to him what the tri-state area is New York New Jersey Connecticut

New York New Jersey Connecticut yeah we got a dynasty question here Pennsylvania no New York New Jersey

Connecticut Pennsylvania Pennsylvania hey guys this is Joe from a city west of the Twin Cities in Minnesota

I got a dynasty question for you I got a Dynasty question for you. I got a trade offer, and they want to know if I will trade Travis Kelsey and my first-round pick next year for Julio Jones. To have Travis Kelsey in the Dynasty, I just feel like that value is so high, and it's not worth giving up both the first-rounder and Kelsey. So what do you think I should do? Thanks.

You'd be giving up Kelsey and next year's round one pick for Julio Jones? No. For me, you'd have to be really honest with yourself about your team right now. I would rather have Julio than Kelsey in Dynasty. So you're going

to have to be really honest. Are you actually a contender? If you are and you're going to have a pick in the last four or five picks of the first round, then I'm fine with it. If you have a bad team, though, no way. Alright, one more email, I'm sorry, or voicemail. Sorry, Heath, gotta do this to you.

Hi, this is Tommy from Denver. As stated previously, I love you guys, with one caveat. I heard Heath say that the Jaguars are a bust this season, so Heath, no love for you. I heard Heath say that the Jaguars are a bust this season. So, Heath, no love for you. I did not say that. Oh, the defense. The Jaguars' defense, I did say, was a bust as a ninth-round pick, yes.

Yeah, I'm the guy who hates the Jaguars. I shouldn't say hate. I'm the guy who doesn't think the Jaguars are making the playoffs this year. So I love saying something that gets Heath in trouble. That is a wonderful thing. That is a great way to end a Friday show and get into the weekend. Heath, have a great time, man. We're going to miss you next week.

I'm really – well, I can't do that. I'm not going to miss you. I can't wait to get back. Well, no. No. I'm not – I can't really say that either. No, you know what? Thank you.

Thank you. I really – I did one week of paternity leave. I could not wait to get back to the show. I really couldn't. I think this is going to be a little different than that. Why? I had a baby. It's the happiest thing. Yeah, for the first couple hours.

Okay, you know what? I'm glad you said that because it is really tough. It's really tough. I love saying something that gets adam in trouble that's true though it's like it's it's tough it i i've now done this three times and i think it's very funny like you could buy a cell phone a television a car you get a manual that explains everything about that. You have a baby. You're in a hospital with people that are qualified to deal with medical things.

They hand you the child. It's your child, obviously. They hand it to you. Good luck. They were great, though, the hospital. No, every nursing staff, doctor, we've been at the same hospital for all three of ours, but fantastic, unbelievable, answered every question. doctor. We've been at the same hospital for all three of ours. But fantastic. Unbelievable. Answer every question. But you could read all these books you want to about being a parent,

what to do. There are things you just don't expect. And you're like, wait, what? Yeah. Well, I'm going to go get back to that now. So thank you guys. Great show. Have you got Pete on yet? I got Pete on day two. Day two. Day two. And he had his diaper on and everything. It just went through the diaper. The hospital was

so cold. I brought one sweatshirt. One sweatshirt. That's all I needed. He peed on the sweatshirt. I was freezing the entire time. Was it a hurricane sweatshirt? No, it was not. It was not a hurricane sweatshirt. Thanks for listening to me talk about my son. I promise I won't do that too much on the show.

Enjoy your weekend. We'll talk to you Monday, everybody. Bye. It's alright. I've got Le'Veon. It's alright. Not George Le'Veon. It's alright.

I've got Le'Veon Bell.