Fantasy Football Today - 07/30: RB Week! Sleepers; Cook Rising, Penny Falling? (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 30, 2018

Welcome to RB Week! We start the show with a new candidate for the "Next Todd Gurley" Award (2:30) and then a candidate for the "Next Isaiah Crowell" Award (7:50). We've also got encouraging Carson Wentz news (10:30) to react to as Dave tells you why he has Wentz ranked in the Top 5 ... Another interesting Alvin Kamara discussion (17:30), then it's on to sleeper RBs (23:30) including two current backups with big potential. Plus, we love what we're hearing about Dalvin Cook (35:30)! How much could he rise in the rankings? ... News and notes from around the NFL (41:41) with some updates on the DEN and SEA backfields and rookie WRs who are standing out in camp. Plus, does the injury to RT Daryl Williams spell doom for CAR (47:10)? And stay tuned for a breakdown of Round 7 of ADP (49:30) ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. It is football week.

It's Monday, July 30th. Hall of Fame game coming up on Thursday. Bears and Ravens. We are fired up. It's also running backs week.. Hall of Fame game coming up on Thursday. Bears and Ravens. We are fired up. It's also running backs week. We've already done tight ends and quarterbacks. This week, a peek at running backs with sleepers, breakouts, and busts in a little bit of strategy. I know Dave Richards fired up.

He told me earlier today. He was IMing me. He said, I love this time of year. Not right, Dave Richards. It is. But you said something strange at the very beginning. You said it's football week. Well, yeah, because football is starting this week.

On this podcast, it's always football week, you nut. Are you sick, Dave? I'm a little under the weather. I got advice for you. Oh, yeah? Yeah. What's that? Go to Buffalo Wild Wings.

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Jamie for making him do a podcast with a contagious sick person. Hey, Jamie, what's up? Especially in close quarters. I feel like all I've done is podcast today. I got to fill in for Danny Cannell on Off the Bench with Cannell and Bell. So I ruined that show and now I get to ruin this one.

You don't have to ruin this show. A quick reminder as we talk about running backs, going into the 2017 season, like rewind a year ago, we were saying Todd Gurley has had one 100-yard rushing game in his last 24 games. I think you were saying that. I was just reminding people of that, right? I mean, were saying that. Callers, improved offensive lines for sure. We're looking for that next Todd Gurley.

And we already did that a little bit earlier this offseason. But let's do it again here with an email. A running back-related email of the day. Number one from John in a city in Rhode Island not named Providence. Bannister. Dear Avon, Stringer, Marlo, and Chris. If you see Avon, it's the wire. All right, guys?

Okay, so there you go. I think Marlon Mack has huge breakout potential. To say his stats last year were pedestrian as being generous, but he put up 3.9 yards per carry at 21 catches, 64% catch rate behind a below-average offensive line, change of pace back, Jacoby Brissett, Indy bolstered their Overage offensive line. Change of pace back. Jacoby Brissett. Indy bolstered their O-line.

You got Andrew Luck back. I think Marlon Mack could be this year's Todd Gurley. P.S., whatever happened to those outros where Dave would say, and now, and then Adam would have to give a little speech to pump people up, and he obviously didn't like doing it. Those were great. Those were great. I loved doing that.

Yeah, not so much. But what do you think? We never got to the Marlon Mack level when we talked about who's this year's Todd Gurley. We got to the McKinnon, Jordan Howard, Alex Collins level. But could Marlon Mack be that guy? I don't think that's a fair comparison because Gurley, the conversation was guy who did something, failed, overlooked a little bit, and then finished as a – I think your question was who could be top player, right? Yeah. Or number one guy, top three, you know what I mean, wherever you want to – I don't think Marlon Mack has that upside or came from that level from last year. To me, Marlon Mack is a mid-level player who could ascend to being a starter. I think he's got that type of upside, but that's the ceiling.

The floor is the problem with him. And so it's an offensive system that, at least in theory, from where Frank Wright came from, is going to use multiple backs. They spent two draft picks on guys that they seem to like. I'm a little bit concerned that Robert Turbin is going to be a problem at some point during the season. But Mack should be the best one there going into the year. And so I think if I saw correctly, he's going in like round seven, round eight.

84th overall. Yeah, so that's great value for a starting running back, at least again, from where we sit right now. And I agree. Offensive line for the Colts would be better. Andrew Luck has been great throwing the ball to his backs. So I think he's a great, if you want to categorize him as a breakout player, perfect. If you want to categorize him as a sleeper just based on where he's going, perfect.

But he's a number three guy with certainly top 20 upside. But not enough touch potential to be – He could, but you're just looking at, again, if Frank Reich brings the same type of system that he's used to running or being a part of from Philly. Which he said he is. Yeah. It just lends itself to, okay, Naheem Hines is going to play maybe not every passing down,

but he's going to be in a lot of passing down situations. Maybe they're on the field together. Jordan Wilkins is a bigger guy. Turbin's a bigger guy. So working at the goal line, short yardage situations, maybe featured back type of duties. I just don't see it. And I like Marlon Mack. I like what I saw from him in spurts last year.

I like the offensive line. I like what Luck does. But it's hard to say right now starting fantasy running back for Marlon Mack unless you decide to go. I did this for the – Chris asked us a question. Chris Towers asked us questions at the beginning of all these weeks, these preview weeks. And it was, is your RB dead? And I laid out a scenario for him if you pick at the back end of round one.

Just going by ADP. It was Odell Beckham and Julio Jones are 12 and 13. Rounds three and four, it's Deshaun Watson and Amari Cooper. So there you go. You got your three receivers, your quarterback. Round five, there's the Greg Olson range. Round six, you start your running backs. The three guys that I put there for him were Mark Ingram, Deion Lewis,

Kerryon Johnson, just, again, going by ADP. And then you get to 84, and there's Marlon Mack. I love that. I have no problem with that whatsoever. I like that better in PPR. And I think that's where zero RB works is in PPR. I don't think you can do it successfully in non-PPR. Well, the receivers have to hit.

The quarterback has to hit. I mean, you can just throw a lot of running backs on your roster and be fine, and I think Marlon Mack is one of those type of guys. Is it zero RB if I start in round six? Can I get away? Can I call it zero RB if I start in round four or five? I don't think so. So what's the cutoff?

Round six? I think it's you. The way I always looked at it is you're filling out your non-running back positions first. Oh, okay. So maybe not necessarily your flex, but two receivers, running back tight end. Wide receiver tight end. Wait, no. What?

Running back tight end? Your two receivers. Quarterback tight end. Quarterback tight end. Quarterback tight end. All right. Well, yeah. I mean, tight end. Quarterback tight end. All right. Well, yeah, I mean, in non-PPR, it's very different. Non-PPR, the top six scoring players last year were all running backs.

In PPR, the top two were running backs. I got a bigger breakdown on that a little bit later. Also, we're going to revisit the Colts' backfield a little bit later in the show when we talk sleepers. Here's another email of the day. Number two, it's running back related. It's from David in Turlock, California. Hey, Matilda the Hun, Hollywood, Vine, and Sunny. No idea.

I enjoyed your segment on who will be this year's Todd Gurley, but I believe just as important a question is who will be this year's Isaiah Crowell, an overhyped running back going in late second, early third round. My choice is Jarek McKinnon. This is coming from a diehard 49ers fan. Please discuss this year's Isaiah Crowell. It's a fair comparison, given at least by hype standpoint.

Yeah, I think that I have a lot more faith in the 49ers offense now than I had in the Browns offense last year. Rightfully so. offense now than I had in the Browns offense last year. Right. Rightfully so. And I guess the biggest difference is Crowell was on the same team, going to the same team, staying with the same team. Yeah. So what do you guys think?

Who's a Crowell-like bust this year? LaShawn McCoy. Yeah, but he's not being hyped, though. It could be Derrick Henry Yeah Collins and Drake scare me a little bit Especially with what you've mentioned about Jake Jamie Drake Jamie

Yeah, that Frank Orr could Be splitting time with him Could ruin our dreams And look, Collins got Potentially a break I don't know what Kenneth Dixon's injury was that caused him to leave practice at the end of last week. I'm assuming it's not season ending, but you never know

with him. If Dixon's back to full health and just taking away a handful of touches and Javoris Allen takes a handful of touches, that could hurt Collins also. It could be Mixon. Mixon falls in that category. I think it's that whole group, honestly.

You know, it's that whole third-round running back group. All right. We're not only going to talk about running backs today. By the way, Matilda, The Hunt, Hollywood, Vine, and Sonny, that would be glow. That would be the gorgeous ladies of wrestling. You're not watching that show, are you, Dave? Glow? No.

No, I only watch real wrestling. The first season was pretty good. Second season, I'm not watching that show, are you, Dave? No. No, I only watch real wrestling. The first season was pretty good. Second season, I'm not really that into. We're not only going to talk about running backs. We got some exciting news on Carson Wentz, Andrew Luck, a couple of rookie wide receivers who are impressing in training camp that you need to know about. We've got this email of the day.

It is from Vinny in Atlanta. It is not running back related. So this is email of the day number three. My league just changed to half PPR. Would you recommend the PPR rankings or the standard scoring rankings? So back in the day, we used to tell people use the non-PPR rankings,

and now I think it's better if you use the full PPR rankings for your half PPR needs. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. Half PPR, so use the full PPR. We're going to get that question a lot. I'm going to address it every time, and I'll just say PPR needs. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. Half PPR, so use the full PPR. We're going to get that question a lot.

I'm going to address it every time, and I'll just say PPR. Here's a quote of the day. It is from Doug Peterson. It is about his quarterback, Carson Wentz. I think if you didn't know he had the injury or had the brace on his leg, you'd probably assess that everything was good, end quote. Really good report about Carson Wentz. The story I read, the author wrote,

I have no reason to believe he won't be playing in week one. That's Jimmy Kimsky, right? I don't remember, but sure. I think so. We talked about that off the bench today. It was with Will Brinson. Will said, we just got through talking about believing

all the beat writer Twitter reports during training camp because everybody looks great and everybody's amazing. And Will was saying, which is the right way to say it, people haven't seen football in a while, so you're getting on the field and you're seeing all these guys that are supposed to be maybe a little bit hampered or hindered or injured, and they look fine. So it's like, oh, okay, maybe he's better than we thought, or he's looked great, or going to be fantastic.

And then he sort of qualified that by saying, Jimmy's one of those guys that he trusts. So I'll trust Will on this, and hopefully that report is the way it's going to turn out. All right, Dave, so there was a lot of Carson Wentz talk last week without you. Sorry. But you are now the high guy on Carson Wentz. You have him ranked fifth. Jamie has him eighth.

Heath has Carson Wentz 13th. And we said on the bust quarterback episode that Carson Wentz going fifth overall among quarterbacks feels a little high. He's going 52nd overall right now. He's QB5 off the board. But you have him fifth. So what do you think? I think he's going to be very good, just as he was last year. You can make the case for touchdown regression. I'll make the case that Philadelphia is going to throw a lot,

and they're going to throw a lot of touchdowns in the red zone. Their bread is buttered with Wentz. Head coach is a former quarterback. Offensive coordinator is a former quarterback. They schemed last year all around Carson Wentz. I think the run game is going to contribute and help Wentz out. And the fact that he's healthy and that he's got a good offensive line that's also healthy will go a long way.

I don't see Jay Ajayi turning the tide in this offense and how they're going to work. I think Wentz is still going to throw 30-plus touchdowns, get over 4,000 yards. I don't think he's going to run very much. Do I think taking him before the end of round five is a little too soon? Yeah. I don't think I'm taking him then.

I'm waiting a little bit longer than that to take Carson Wentz, but I am taking him, and I do think he will be very good for fantasy owners this year. There's one thing you left out, which I agree with everything you said. A little bit lower on the yard is myself personally, but Alshon's injury to me is scary because that's a red zone threat. Your receiving core is not the same without him there. Now, Mike Wallace, you could say, is an upgrade over Torrey Smith.

I think that's fair. He's been having a good camp so far. Having Darren Sproles on the field, which he didn't have for the majority of the season last year, I think is an upgrade to the passing game. But if you don't get Jeffrey at 100%, or at least the Jeffrey we saw last year, then he's not getting 30 touchdowns because he's not going to have that type of player to help him in that regard. And so the ADP to me is awful. And I think when you start to nitpick these guys,

because it seems as if the top three quarterbacks are going to be, however you like them, if you don't like them it's fine but just the the draft position and almost everywhere you look ranking wise is going to be the same and you could probably say the fourth guy too with deshaun watson so it's you know in some order of rogers wilson brady and watson five through ten is probably going to be different a lot of people's boards adp right now favors wentz uh it may stay that way all the way through but when you throw in Wentz's ADP versus Breeze versus Luck, who is going to climb but may not climb higher than Wentz, versus Cam, you start to look at where you can get Roethlisberger.

You can get all these other quarterbacks. It's just not worth taking him there. So I agree with you, Dave. You don't have to take him in round five if you don't want to, but you may not get him, and that's the point. Don't take him in that spot. Luck is 1,000% going to go ahead of Wentz in ADP. It's already happened.

And he should because I think he has a higher ceiling. He definitely has a higher ceiling, and he's looking good. They just did a team scrimmage, I believe, over the weekend, and I think he missed on two passes. Three, I think. Three passes? Oh, well, in that, over the weekend. I think he missed on two passes. Three, I think. Three passes? Oh, well, in that case, forget it. Yeah, no, then drop him.

Yeah, look, everything's been great for Andrew Luck, but we haven't seen him go week after week playing. There's still got to be some injury concern, no? Well, I think when you look at both guys, you have to say the same thing. There's injury concerns. Now, obviously, the ACL has been an easier injury to come back from than a quarterback with a throwing problem. Yeah.

But at least right now, he seems to be slightly better standing than Wentz, just from what I can tell. Well, have you ranked him ahead of Wentz yet? Yes. I have not. As Andrew Luck we're talking about. By the way, Nelson Aguilar is going 122nd overall.

It's just a steal. And that's a guy who had eight touchdowns from Wentz last year. He's very good in any best ball league. You should be taking Mike Wallace because if we get to... Mike Wallace or Nelson Aguilar? No. Aguilar for sure. That's a

given. But Mike Wallace is like a free space. Wallace is a definite upgrade over Torrey Smith. He's far more versatile. And if Alshon isn't ready to start the season, yeah, it's going to sting if you have Wentz, if you draft Wentz

and that's just how the way things play out. But Wallace is a better replacement than Smith would be in that role. All right, we're going to kind of bounce around between running back and non-running back, but it is running back week, so of course we'll do that. I just don't want to give away too much before we do our running back preview. I think position previews are going to start next week. We're getting pretty close to draft time for sure.

We have a great tweet from our Pete Prisco, our CBS Sports football writer, about Dalvin Cook. He's been with the Vikings. He came away very impressed from the Falcons. Now he's with the Vikings. And, yeah, I mean, everything's rosy right now. But Pete was impressed with Dalvin Cook, so we'll talk about that. We've got sleeper running backs coming up. And, you know, last year, you want to talk about running backs and wide receivers.

I looked at the top 60 players in non-PPR, in half PPR, and in full PPR. Why 60? And these are not including quarterbacks because two running backs, two receivers, and a flex in a 12-team league, that's 60 players. In non-PPR, we had the exact same amount of running backs and wide receivers finish in the top 60, 28 of each plus four tight ends. In half PPR, it was pretty similar. 27 running backs, 28 wide receivers, and five tight ends. And then in PPR, it wasn't even close. Wide receivers dominated. 32 of the top 60 players in PPR were wide receivers. 21 were running backs, and seven were tight ends. That maybe should give you an indication of how you should be drafting

for your flex in PPR leagues in particular. Just wide receivers do better. I mean, that's, okay, what is that, breaking news? Obviously not, but maybe those numbers put it in perspective a little bit. Another number I wanted to look at, fantasy points per touch. Last year, and one guy in particular, Alvin Kamara, 1.08 fantasy points per touch. Unbelievable. Todd Gurley was.88, and he was the number one running back in fantasy. The year before that, David Johnson was.84. Kamara was 1.08 fantasy points per touch. And he's a really interesting guy.

How many more touches does he get? Does he get 250 touches this year, Alvin Kamara? Well, we sort of played with the math on this, right, last week or two weeks ago? I think I was out that day. I think it's right at 250 based on the math that we did. Yeah, and that's if he's getting, what we say, 18 touches, 18 carries a game? Right. Or no, 15 carries a game.

Same catch as 15 carries a game, I think is what it was. Or 17 carries a game. It wasn't 20. No, I think we were 18 in the first four weeks and then 15 after that. Okay, makes sense. So, the way I would view it is if he gets 225,

you're happy. Well, 15... Yeah. This was... 225? He had 201 last year. Right. We were knocking him down to, what, five and a half yards a carry? Nope, we were less than that.

Five yards a carry? I think we were even less than that. No, I don't think we were under five. I thought we were like 4.8. We were under five. I think it was at five. That's a lot to add. Five yards per carry is pretty damn good.

Five yards per carry is pretty awesome. You think he's going to get better? Yeah, right, which makes 6.1 yards per carry a, you know, your eyes bug out of your head. The thing that's going to knock him down with his yards per carry is how much are they using him in short yard situations. Because he'll have a few of second and one

stuffed. Third and one stuffed. Fourth and one gets the yard. Or gets six yards. It's just one of those situations. I don't think they use him for that. I think that's where Mark Ingram comes into play. No, but I'm talking about early in the season, before he's back. Is it Jonathan Williams? Is it Boston Scott?

Is it Terrence West? Whoever they may use in that regard. Boston Scott's like a great backup for Kamara. Kamara is really fast. They may use both those guys, though. Kamara's not going to average 1.08 points per touch. That's crazy. Two years ago, David Johnson averaged 0.97 fantasy points per touch.

And his breakout came the following year. He backed it up. He didn't do quite as well per touch, but he finished as the number one running back in fantasy. I'm going to be pretty split on Kamara. I see the upside, but I also see his yards per carry, his yards per catch go way down. He could be

in trouble here. Plus, last year, Mark Ingram had 13 carries inside the 5. Camara had 4. That's something to keep in mind. They both had a good amount of carries inside the 10. Camara catches passes when he's near the goal line as well. When you get to Barkley, Hunt, Gordon, Camara, what do you do with those four?

What's the scoring? PPR. Camara's first for me. Give me it one more time. Camara, Hunt, Barkley, and Gordon. I put Hunt in front of Kamara. I've got Hunt, Kamara, Barkley, Gordon in that exact order four in a row, five through eight in my PPR running back rankings. And what about non-PPR?

He's behind Barkley and Hunt for me. Agreed. Hunt, Barkley, Kamara, Gordon. Kamara over Gordon in non-PPR. Yeah, I think that's the one that we'll end up regretting if you make that decision on draft day. Because you know what Gordon, and put

for it out there too, you know what their workloads could be, carry-wise. You know what their touchdown potential could be. It's hard to say that Camara's going to have a double-digit rushing touchdown season again. That to me is more concerning than it is the yards per carry and yards per catch. It's really hard to see him replicating what he did last year.

Of course. It was just so ridiculous. It's ridiculous. 6.1 yards per carry and 10.2 yards per catch. Yeah. And 13 rushing touchdowns. When's the last time we saw anybody like that? CJ Spiller.

Oh, no, don't say that. I mean, that's the question we get a lot. Is it CJ Spiller or Oh, no, don't say that. I mean, that's the question we get a lot. Is it CJ Spiller 2.0? And look, not all of us, obviously. I'll speak for myself. Speak for me. Speak for me. Well, no, I know Adam also, but we were fond of CJ Spiller.

Oh, yeah, I took him third overall that year. Right. The worst draft pick I ever made. He looked awesome that year for Buffalo. And he was still okay the second year, but he was nowhere close that year. Right. The worst draft pick ever made. He looked awesome that year for Buffalo. And he was still okay the second year, but he was nowhere close to what he did. I'm going to go back to what we talked about. It was last week, I think, where we projected it was exactly 252 touches for Alvin Kamara. And if he's getting five yards per carry, I think he could get a little bit less than that.

And I think the receiving average is going to come down, but I still think that will be in the eights. Yeah. If you do the math on that, and I still think he's going to get you great yardage numbers. You're bringing up the touchdown totals. Would you be happy with eight touchdowns? Oh, that's what I said last week.

I think 10 is the number total-wise that he can. Is that the number that you need to justify the first round pick, especially fifth overall in PPR? If he's 80 catches again with... 1,308. Yeah, you're fine. Okay. And then on PPR, if it's 1,308 and you're taking

him in late round one, I think that's... I think that'll be okay, too. You have to just sort of put in your head, okay, where's the floor? If I take him eighth and he finishes 13th, you're okay with that? Yeah. Real quick, I'm going to do the math. 1,300 divided by 252, that's 5.1 yards per touch.

I'm fine saying that Alvin Kamara will average 5.1 yards per touch. Mm-hmm. Well, Kamara is certainly not a sleeper that's for sure but these guys are it is time for our fantasy profile presented by buffalo wild wings we are profiling an underrated fantasy football player who listeners should get to know as they could be key to winning your season so today it is sleepers dave why don't we start with you who is your sleeper running back i'm going with naheem hines of the Colts. And I know we talked about Marlon Mack, and I didn't talk that much about Marlon.

I feel like the one guy that we can pencil into a safe role in the Indianapolis offense is going to be Hines. As long as he continues looking good in camp, catching everything from Andrew Luck, being that mismatch that the Colts can lean on. I don't think he can be this year's Alvin Kamara, but I think he can give you a decent fraction of that. I think he can get you 50 catches. I think he might not get more than 80 carries over the course of the year. I don't think he can be a lead back for Indy.

I think if he's doing well, he'll be part of their committee. But as a guy that I take late, especially in the PPR league, double-digit rounds, very happy getting Naheem Hines on the team. Good sleeper for fantasy for sure. Naheem Hines. And Jamie, you're a sleeper?

Matt Breida. Obviously you hear me talk a lot about Jerry McKinnon, but a lot of that has to do with the offense and Kyle Shanahan and his system. I've obviously tried to get McKinnon but a lot of that has to do with the offense and kyle shanahan and his system and so i've obviously tried to get mckinnon in the beginning of round three in every draft that we've done uh especially if i pick in that in that range if he falls i'm thrilled if i'm picking the middle to the back end around three but if i miss on him i always try and target brita as well because if mckinnon fails and there there's a lot of potential for that also just because he's never been a featured guy before over 16 games.

I know Joe Williams is there, or at least he may be there. He was another guy that we hyped up last year. Apparently looking good in camp. I'm not going to go down the Joe Williams rabbit hole. There's a report, I believe it was the Press Democrat in the Bay Area. And the reporter there had three positive things to say about all three of those running backs. He said that McKinnon is looking great catching the ball at backfield. He said he runs routes like a wide receiver.

I'm paraphrasing here. He said that Matt Breida has been the best running back in camp so far. And he said Joe Williams has been their best athlete so um there there's a lot to like about what kyle shanahan does and so where you can get matt brita and what the upside he could bring he had a marlin mac type year last year you know didn't get a big workload but when he was on the field he had some very positive moments and so i think you could see that happen again if in fact mckinnon falters his last five games he averaged 4.5 yards per carry and 14.7 yards per catch that's pretty good he only had three catches though he had one big catch in week 17 but in four of those games he had either 11 or 12 carries and i'm thinking that he could still get that with mckinnon getting maybe the same amount of carries plus five six seven catches per game and we we talk a lot about what mckinnon can do

and then the positives that he brings but if mckinnon falters as a as a running back not as a pass catcher i don't think he struggles there because he never really has. I think Brita could step in, and it could turn into a 50-50 between those guys. So, number one, if you're hot for McKinnon, I think you've got to target Brita round nine, maybe round eight if you've got to have him. But I think Brita's a guy that you could draft in round nine on stand-alone value as a sleeper. I agree with Jamie. I think he's a a guy that you could draft in round nine on standalone value as a sleeper. I agree with Jamie. I think he's a very good sleeper. Breida is going the end of round nine, beginning of round 10.

Naeem Hines going end of round 11, beginning of round 12. In a 12-10 league. All right. All right. Yeah, some running back depth. And maybe you take multiple Colts running backs and see how it shakes out. But you're not spending much on Hines. His ADP is going up, though.

I do have a sleeper. You do? A suggestion for a sleeper. Let me hear what you guys think about it. Isaiah Crowell on both CBS and Fantasy Pros. He's the 38th running back off the board. Isaiah Crowell is going 97th overall on Fantasy Pros, 102nd overall on CBS. Let's just say 100th overall.

You're getting Isaiah Crowell, who two years ago was a top 15 running back. Last year was 30th, 29th in non-PPR, 30th in PPR. But he averaged 4.1 yards per carry. He only had two touchdowns. The Jets, believe it or not, as bad as they've been, they've given us usable, certainly rosterable running backs over the last couple of years. You got that Bilal Powell guy that could be a thorn in the side because he's always productive. I just don't know how much the Jets buy into him or else I feel like they would have given him a bigger role by now. But yeah, I think Crowell, look, 38th running back off the board, I think that's a steal.

There was some thought that McGuire, Elijah McGuire broke his foot last week or over the weekend, was actually going to replace Powell on passing down situation. You wonder if Corwell maybe gets a little bit more of that now, if they don't go completely back to Powell in that role. We'll see who they add. They've worked out Alfred Morris And Orleans Darkwa I'd be a little more concerned about Darkwa at this point than Alfred Morris

They signed George Atkinson Or whatever that's worth I think Crowell's ADP Is perfect Heath would probably argue that it's low Which I get I just wonder though if Because McGuire's not done for the season

He's probably... Three to six weeks. Right. Can he be on the short-term IR? Yeah, they can put him on that on September 1st. Right. So I wonder if they'd go that route if he's not back to... Sure. That'll depend on who else gets hurt for the Jets between now and then.

Yeah, I just don't know if Crowell, what we saw last year, is kind of just who he is. He's a good runner. I don't know if he's, what we saw last year, is kind of just who he is. He's a good runner. I don't know if he's a great fantasy option. No, he's not. But as your fourth running back on your team, perfect. Anytime you get a starter for a respective team that late, it's great.

Okay, it's great. Why? Because he might have – Here's the question. Hold on. He finished where last year? 29th in non-PPR, 30th in PPR. because he might have... Here's the question. Is Isaiah Crowell... Hold on. He finished where last year? 29th in non-PPR, 30th in PPR.

Okay, so that's a guy you'll probably end up starting four or five weeks a season? He's a bi-week replacement. Maybe. Okay. I mean, let's paint him with that brush. He's depth for your team, and he's a bi-week replacement. Yeah.

Yeah. After that, you're really not... Looking at guys you have ranked behind him in the rankings, behind Isaiah Crowell, you don't necessarily have any starters. I mean, maybe Devontae Booker becomes a starter. C.J. Anderson is technically a starter. But it's a lot of – it's guys who don't project to have as many carries. Maybe Chris Carson ends up starting.

No, don't fall for that. No? Don't fall for it yet, don't fall for that. No? Don't fall for it yet. Don't fall for it. Okay. All right, so our sleepers, Naeem Hines, Matt Breida, and Isaiah Crowell. And I actually think Heath would probably put Isaiah Crowell. Is that one of Heath's sleepers?

No, he's higher. I know he likes him because Heath seems to be, and I don't want to speak for him, but Heath will always, at least what I can see, take the end-of-year potential over the week-to-week highs and lows. Right. And certainly in deeper formats, the steadier guys, end-of-year finish guys that Heath targets, like Giovanni Bernard, they can help you out. Can I just say one thing? No. I'm sorry.

I want to blurt it. Never. I don't like calling a guy a sleeper saying that his usage is a bi-week running back. Okay. What am I doing with Isaiah Crowell if I put him on my team? So when in non-PPR are you starting Naeem Hines? I don't know. I'm taking a chance on him in round 11 or round 12 just to see what happens.

So where's Corral going? A little earlier than that. A little earlier. Yeah, round nine. So if I'm picking between these two, I'll take the guy on the Colts two rounds later, and I can get a wide receiver with 100 to 120 targets. Maybe PPR, I understand that. But in non-PPR, I mean, Crowell was how many yards last year?

853 rushing, 182 receiving. Okay, so if he scores six touchdowns? If he scores six touchdowns? 1,006, but I don't know if I'm going to ever feel good counting on him as anything more than what you said, which is a biweek running back. And that, to me, just doesn't make him a sleeper. It doesn't make him exciting to draft. I'm not going to be excited to draft Isaiah Crowell.

But you don't have to necessarily be excited to draft a guy that ends up being productive for you. I mean I understand the theory. It's not necessarily taking somebody who, oh my god, this is going to be my guy that wins me my league. No, he's not going to be that guy. And maybe in PPR somebody like Hines is. Maybe Brita is. I mean there is. Brita could be.

But that's kind of where you're at. When you're getting past round eight, anybody that you're kind of looking at is either somebody that can get me through a few weeks or if things go right. And again, if Crowell scores four more touchdowns, which I don't think is out of the realm of possibility with the same type of workload and production that he had a year ago. Let me. I mean, he's still a young guy. He's what, 26? He is 20. He'll be 26 in January. So he's 25 right now.

I can add something on top of bi-week running back to Isaiah Crowell, and it's just because I looked at his schedule. Week one at Detroit, week two versus Miami, week three at Cleveland on a short week. That's pretty good. Yeah, especially McGuire's up. If you draft Mark Ingram or if you go zero RB, do you hate these matchups for Crowell in the first three weeks of the season?

No. I just got done poo-pooing him, and I don't hate those matches for Isaiah Crowell to start the season. All right. What a sleeper. Great pick. Also, Dave, are we sure we have the right Colts running back as the sleeper? What about Wilkins?

Oh, no, it could be. And this is the problem with all the Colts. This is the problem with all the Colts. They're all going to take away from each other. I don't think there's a situation that plays out where one guy gets the work of an Edger and James or a Joseph Adai, just to give you a couple of former Colts who did it before. Yeah, Marshall Falk. Not going to happen. Sure.

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All right, here's our tweet of the day. It's from Pete Prisco. He says, it was unreal how good Dalvin Cook looked in drills on Saturday. Explosive. He says, he's quicker and faster now After the ACL surgery If you didn't see him you wouldn't believe it But it looks to be true That's from Pete Prisco

I'm going to hashtag it Cookforthoverall Bit of a wordy hashtag But cookforthoverall Are you serious? He said he would do that I am serious in a non-PPR Because in PPR or even half PPR,

I'll take some wide receivers. But in a non-PPR league, I think I'm almost ready to go fifth overall for Dalvin Cook. I guess – So you'll change the hashtag. All right. Yeah, hashtag top five. Hashtag top five Dalvin Cook. I just don't see a reason not to like him.

He's going to get a ton of work on a good team, and he's awesome. He's young. He can recover from the ACL. You're not worried about Latavius Murray? No, I am not. You're not worried about Kirk Cousins throwing 600 times a season? No, definitely not. You're not worried about the Vikings defense being a sham?

Is there any reason other than the ACL why he's not considered in the group with Hunt, Barkley, Gordon, etc.? I think people might be a little disappointed by the receptions total that he had last year. But they're not looking at what his carry potential could be in blowout wins, which I think Minnesota could have a decent amount of, given their newfound quarterback situation and, dare I say, improved defense. I like Cook a lot. I wrestle with him all the time. Not literally.

I'm talking about his defense. Oh, he would destroy you. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. He does have a lower center of gravity. He'll probably pull me down. I don't want to even think about it. I don't want him to hurt himself again.

You're ranking him against the guys of like Fournette, Barkley, Kamara, and Gordon. And a lot of them are in similar situations. They're on teams where they're the lead back and their defense is great or they're quality backs that get a lot of touches. And you've really got to nitpick. I think this is one where it comes down to how you feel about Dalvin Cook. And I know because I was like you last year, I loved him coming out of Florida State, and I loved what I saw from him in those first few games. I don't think he has a long, long track record of injuries

that we have to be worried about. I think Dalvin Cook can deliver, and I love any running back that's on a team with a great defense. He's a first-round pick, back half a first-round pick for me, and, yeah, someone worth targeting in that 10th, 11th, 12th slot. Can you think of other scenarios where a player has torn his ACL early in his career? I mean, I know Giovanni Bernard did it, and he came back and had a better yards per carry the following year. Deion Lewis, his yards per carry went down from 4.8 pre-ACL to 4.4 the year before, but whatever.

He didn't really have that much work. There are wide receiver examples. Running back examples of young players, not that easy to find for me. Gurley. Who? Oh, Gurley. Gurley. Yeah.

Right, Gurley came back strong. Frank Gore, as I recall, tore his ACL twice in college. He tore each leg, and he was really good as a rookie. He averaged 4.8 yards per carry. So, I don't know. How high could you see him going? The other problem with Cook is if you don't take him, if you have the fifth pick and you don't take him, you're not getting him in the

second round, I think at this point. No, but you're taking another player that you like better. It's not only what Pete said. There was a story in, I think it was a star tribune talking about how he's looked as well which uh adam schefter tweeted which is obviously gonna get a lot of attention um i spoke to pete yesterday after his trip to minnesota he said you know which is uh another you know wrinkle on top of this he goes they just do something with these guys coming back from ACLs. Remember Peterson? Now how quickly he got back.

And so I think you look at Cook. It is interesting Adam because you start to compare him to what you saw last year. And again, it's a four game sample size, but if Kamara doesn't

replicate the yards per carry and the yards per touch and the touchdowns, Cook should be better than him. And he doesn't have a Mark Ingram lurking over his shoulder. I do think Latavius Murray is going to be more of a factor than you probably think just because they like him. He performed admirably for them last year under the circumstances. Different skill set, so they can use him differently. But with Hunt, if Spencer Ware or any of the other guys they signed is a factor, if the Jaguars with Fournette, if he struggles for whatever reason

and he missed time with injuries, and Barkley is a failure as a rookie, there are a lot of things when you start to just get to that point where Cook may stack up better than them and maybe the better value just because he's going five or six spots later. Sure. Yeah, I mean, auction I think would be interesting. How much would you spend on Cook in a $100 auction? $25?

Right in that range. All right. Well, we have plenty of time to talk about Dalvin Cook. More news and notes to get to. Do need to remind you that our podcast is sponsored by Buffalo Wild Wings. And Buffalo Wild Wings understands that being a fantasy football league manager is a tough job. It's important to get a good first impression, and that all starts with the draft. If you want your league to love you, book your draft party at B-Dubs. You're going to get a free draft kit. Enjoy a special draft feast of boneless wings, three sides,

and three shareables for a special price to feed your league. So come in and get to drafting up some league manager love at Buffalo Wild Wings. Wings, beer, sports at participating locations while supplies last. We've got a lot of news and notes to get to here. Arizona head coach Steve Wilkes said that Sam Bradford is the, well, it's his job to lose at starting quarterback. And there was a note on Dak Prescott really was about Des Bryant, but Stephen Jones talking about how Des and Witten were in the ear of Dak Prescott

and suggesting that maybe Dak could benefit from not having those veterans who need the ball around. Also, we have a good report on Michael Gallup. Do you see positive momentum here for Dak Prescott? Not yet. Not to change his fantasy draft day value. He's still in that group of QB2s. Dak Prescott is going 117th overall.

So running back news. Lindsey Jones of USA Today believes the Denver running back job is totally open. I've read so much about that backfield already. Every day it's multiple players looking good. Gotten a lot of positive reviews about Royce Freeman. A lot about a guy named Phillip Lindsey, who is a good passing down his back. I'll have to do a little bit more research on him before I spew.

But Booker's getting in there. Henderson's getting in there. And that might be a backfield where they use multiple runners. It's going to be Booker to open the season for whatever capacity, unless Freeman just dominates in preseason games. Freeman will be the better one by the middle of the year. Yeah, kind of like the Cincinnati situation last year. Yeah, but I don't necessarily know if the coaching staff has that hard-headed rule

about rookies like Cincinnati had last year. If Royce Freeman earns it, what choices does Vance Joseph have? Everything I've heard from people I know in Denver. John Elway loves Royce Freeman.

Who's the starting running back earlier? Garrett Blunt left practice yesterday with an injury. Who's the starting running back earlier, Kerryon Johnson or Royce Freeman? Kerryon Johnson. I'll say Freeman. I like Freeman better, but Kerryon's in a better situation to start right away.

What about Rashad Penny in Seattle? But you know what? Maybe Kerryon gets the first carry of the game week one, but I think Freeman could get more work over the course of the game. I think he's better equipped to handle three downs than Carrion is. Now, what was your question? Yeah, Rashad Penny. Because Chris Carson worked as the number one.

CJ Proseis is going to have a role. Until he gets hurt. Are you guys losing any faith in Rashad Penny as the feature back? A little bit, but not because of Carson. I think it's just because of everybody there. It's not pivoting from Penny to Carson. It's just pivoting from Penny a little bit. Are you Team Geis or Team Penny?

I've been Team Geis for a while, so Team Geis for sure. All right, Geis is going ahead of Penny. So is Alex Collins after Penny. Tevin Coleman, wow, kind of early for him. Lamar Miller, we're talking in the 50s, you know, 55 overall or so. Lamar Miller or Rashad Penny? Right now Penny, but that could change if this continues with Carson. I like that Lamar Miller has lost weight.

I like that he's got the better situation right now for him without Deontay Foreman being healthy. And if Foreman's not ready for Week 1, which is what it seems like, then you get Miller with a six-game head start. That could be a good situation for him. Wide receiver notes. Randall Cobb had offseason ankle surgery. He's 100%, but he revealed what happened earlier this offseason.

He had an ankle surgery. Some players who are having good camps. Tell me what jumps out at you. Michael Gallup for the Cowboys. Dante Pettis for the 49ers, a couple rookies. John Brown for the Ravens. And Jay Gruden said that Josh Doxon is going to be a red zone threat this year. So Gallup, Pettis, John Brown, Josh Doxon, anything really jump off the page?

Gruden also said that he wouldn't expect a big fantasy football year for Doxon. He actually said fantasy football. Are you serious? Because they spread the ball around so much there. I guess that's not a Kirk Cousins thing as much as it is a Jay Gruden thing. Great point. Gallup is interesting. Apparently he started camp with the first-teamers.

He took steps with the first-teamers in Dallas. Look at that team. And he's been hot and cold, according to what I've read on Dallas. But he's certainly interesting. He's absolutely worth a pick in any draft. But we're talking double digits for him. I think Doxon's in the same boat. Okay.

John Brown, as we know, could be great. He could also be frustrating with the sickle cell injury or sickle cell trait. So hopefully he's right. It's a receiving core that is totally new. And one of the things Joe Flacco's done well is he's thrown the ball down the field with success. And so if John Brown can be 100% healthy,

he could be a great best ball wide receiver. He could be a great late round flyer. You know, you cut him with no remorse. Hopefully, John Brown is ready to go and play 16 games. And offensive line?

I'll say about Pettis, Trent Taylor's been hurt, which I think is going to help Pettis because those two guys are going to vie for the slot position there. You would think Taylor has an edge, but Pettis because those two guys are going to vie for the slot position there. You would think Taylor has an edge, but Pettis is the guy that they drafted, so he could push Taylor to the bench. All right, that's good stuff.

The offensive line, actually, is a pretty big deal. Carolina right tackle Darrell Williams. He dislocated his right patella. He tore his MCL. They don't have a timetable yet, but this was a second-team All-Pro. He was rated the number three offensive tackle in the NFL, thanks to the Charlotte Observer for those notes.

Darrell Williams is a good player. They already lost Norwell, one of the best guards in football. Now right tackle out. Is this red alert right now for the Carolina offense? A little bit. I don't know if losing him and Norwell is going to sink the ship. It's not good. What do you think?

I mean, yeah, it's got to be something. Well, William's not done for the season yet, so hopefully he's able to come back. But, you know, it could have like a Taylor Decker type of feel, you know, where a guy gets hurt and then tries to come back and just never is the same for that season. I know that we have blamed some Cam Newton struggles in the past on his offensive line. I know we've been like, well, he needs a better offensive line. So this is not a good start.

No. And what's going on with Christian McCaffrey? We never really talked about this, but in terms of his touches, did they say that he's not going to get a huge workload on the ground? No. Ron Rivera came out at the start of training camp and said he will. Oh, he will. Okay. Yeah.

That was during baby week. It seems as if there's been a rollercoaster of he will, he won't, he will, he won't. And then Rivera kind of said he will. Cincinnati rookie offensive guard Rod Taylor is out for the season. It's really more of a depth issue there. This is a team that traded for Cordy Glenn and drafted a center in the first round. Pittsburgh offensive guard Ramon Foster is out for the season. It's really more of a depth issue there. This is a team that traded for Cordy Glenn and drafted a center

in the first round. Pittsburgh offensive guard Ramon Foster is out four to five weeks with a leg injury. So hopefully back for week one. And the Seahawks extended Dwayne Brown. I was going to put a third round pick under the microscope. Don't forget Jake Matthews and Taylor LeJuan also got paid too.

Yes, they did. I wasn't sure if I had that on our last show, but they did. I was going to put a third-round pick under the microscope, and it was going to be Adam Thielen. But I think what we're going to do is we're going to put that off until tomorrow, and we're going to do Adam Thielen and Stefan Biggs and put those two players under the microscope. For now, let's look at average draft position round seven

as we continue to move down in ADP. So we're using fantasy pros, half PPR, just for continuity. And these are picks 73 through 84, round seven of a 12-team league. Here are your first four picks. There are three wide receivers and a quarterback. Devin Funchess, Corey Davis, Kirk Cousins, and Will Fuller. Devin Funchess, Corey Davis, Kirk Cousins, and Will Fuller. Devin Funchess, Corey Davis, Kirk Cousins, and Will Fuller kicking off round seven. Dave, your reaction?

Half PPR. I want to throw up when I see Devin Funchess going in round seven in any league. That's completely based on what he did last year. That's not thinking about what this offense looks like now. Yeah, especially with those offensive linemen. It's a huge mistake. Huge, huge mistake. How about the other two wide receivers, Corey Davis and Will Fuller?

I've got them in round seven. Round seven, round eight, right in that range. Yeah, I don't mind them there. Davis got off to a good start in camp. Fuller is very much Deshaun Watson dependent, as we saw last year, where he can just make one great big play and you're a happy fantasy owner. I think both of these guys can serve as number three receivers to begin the season, but I'll say that Davis has more upside. Davis at least looks like a guy who could finish as a top 12 receiver. I'm not calling that, but I could say he could finish as a top 24 guy.

Yeah, you know, there's a couple things of interest. So we kind of, I don't know the right phrase. Sliced. Sliced Jake Sealy for selecting, which is funny because I believe he's a former deli owner. Sliced Jake Sealy for, huh? That's not true. Yeah. Really? which is funny because I believe he's a former deli owner, sliced Jake's deli for... Huh? That's not true. Yeah.

Really? We put his brain on the deli slicer, and we went... And out came little slices. They looked like ham. So we sliced him, according to Dave, when he took Corey Davis in the fourth round of our industry... I just killed Jake. ...PPR draft.

If he's right, and he wasn't right for the majority of the season, but he did have the two-touchdown game against the Patriots in the second round of the playoffs. We haven't talked about this a lot, but Rashard Matthews is still struggling to practice. Is he on the pup list? He might be, but I don't know. But I know he didn't practice today again.

So he's battling an injury. Corey Davis didn't practice on Sunday either. Which is troubling because he's got an injury track record. But Marcus Martino's got to throw the ball to somebody. And so Davis, we know the pedigree based on where he was drafted last year, top 10 overall pick. He could be a top 20 wide receiver. So I think this is an unbelievable range for him.

I would try and take him around earlier personally. And then Fuller, you're right, Dave, he was Deshaun Watson dependent last year, but oh my God, was he Deshaun Watson dependent. And it was unbelievable that stretch that those two guys had together. And so you don't want to say that they're tied

because obviously Watson can make plays without Fuller compared to vice versa, but if you get 16 games with Deshaun Watson and more importantly 16 games of Fuller, given what we've seen over two years, he's got a third-year breakout run all over him. Because if he plays that amount of games, he could be a top 20 guy.

I actually just made a trade for him. I was really excited about it in a dynasty league I'm in where I was very overloaded at running back. We have to start five receivers. It's very difficult to find five good wide receivers if you have too many good running backs because it's a very competitive league. But I traded Rex Burkhead for Will Fuller,

and I was ecstatic about it because Burkhead could be good this year. He may have a better season, per se, than Will Fuller, given the track record. But Fuller's entering his third season again, and if he and Watson are tied together for the next five years or at least three, Fuller's entering his third season again, and if he and Watson are tied together for the next five years, or at least three, Fuller could be great. I got the scoop on Corey Davis.

I like that trade for you too, Jamie. Davis just had a rest day, Variable said. We'll see if he's selling the truth. Yeah, he's exhausted. Apparently he's going to be ready to go on Monday. There's a big stink Twitter-wise because the Browns gave Miles Garrett a rest day this weekend. Same thing.

Why are you giving a 23-year-old guy a rest day? Well, Heath's on vacation right now. He's getting a rest week. Heath is – did he just turn 40? He's 39. He's in his late 30s. Yeah, so by the way, ADP has changed since this morning, it appears, just a little bit. Corey Davis and Devin Funches are actually at the very, very end of round six.

Picked 71 and 72 overall. We want to restart this exercise. 73 and on is Chris Hogan, Sammy Watkins, Will Fuller, Kirk Cousins. So you've got Fuller and Cousins there. Two more names at wide receiver, though, Chris Hogan and Sammy Watkins coming off the board right after Funchess and Davis. I love Hogan in this spot, and I would take him around earlier. I just think you get a four-game head start without Edelman.

No Cooks, no Amendola. Sounds like Malcolm Mitchell is still not healthy. So there's Gronk and who to start the season? Jordan Matthews. Yay. Kenny Britt. Braxton Berrios. Braxton Berrios.

He will be the superstar that dominates the season for the Patriots. Hogan was on pace for 10 touchdowns last year. And without Cooks there, he's going to score 8-plus if he plays 16 games. Now the problem is, can he play 16 games? But, I mean, he played really well his first year with New England. Really well last year. He just got a standstill. It bugs me just a

little bit that we've never seen a big year from Chris Hogan. Like that consistent week in, week out. He'll fall anywhere between 7 and 14 fantasy points per game. So some weeks it won't be great, but he'll be serviceable for your squad. Some weeks he'll be the reason why you win. He's never put up a 1,000-yard year.

I don't think he's even had 700 yards. No, one of my favorite breakouts this year, though. Chris Hogan, okay. By the way, did you guys give Will Fuller's numbers in four games with Deshaun Watson, the actual numbers? No, I can't count that high. He averaged 21.5 yards per catch. He had 13 catches in four games, which isn't very good. But 279 yards and seven touchdowns.

And three were in the red zone, so they weren't all bombs. There might have been four that were in the red zone. I had been drafting him all the time in our mock drafts. He's now going earlier, but I still try to get Will Fuller. Okay. He's awesome. After Kirk Cousins, we have Robert Woods, Carlos Hyde, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Julian Edelman.

Robert Woods, Carlos Hyde, Jimmy Garoppolo, and Julian Edelman. This is half PPR. Should Edelman go after Hogan in half PPR? Yeah, with the suspension. Okay. Should Hogan go ahead of Robert Woods? Sure. Yeah. Okay. Carlos Hyde, Garofalo.

This group you just read off is why you should love going running back early. Because the same thing we just talked about to start the show was the ORB. If you get two stud running backs early, or one in the first four picks and then two good ones,

you could just start stockpiling these receivers. Take four guys of this group. And then the last four picks of this round are Marlon Mack, Pierre Garçon. Marlon Mack going 81st. Another good receiver. Yeah, Garçon. Garçon. Tariq Cohen. And then I like this ADP, Trey Burton.

Love it. End of round seven. Yep. Yeah, it's going up, though. It's such a great group because there's going to probably be two of these guys that finish as top 20 receivers. And those receivers, again, are we don't like Funchess here, but Corey Davis, Chris Hogan, Watkins, Fuller, Robert Woods, Julian Edelman, Pierre Garcon. And it's funny because not liking Funches, and I'm on board, but he was good last year and could still be – what was he, top 20 receiver last year? Yeah, pretty sure.

So you have Funches, top 20 guy last year. Robert Woods, top 20 guy last year. Robert Woods, top 20 guy last year. You know what I mean? These are guys. Edelman, when he's right, he's not here to debate you, Adam. So, you know, Edelman could be, over the 12 games he plays, top 20 receiver. Absolutely. There is a dangerous track record of older wide receivers coming back from ACL injuries. Got to keep that in mind. But if he's right. Yeah, but he's got the Alex Guerrero stuff.

Oh, 100%. I mean, it's so funny that we argued about this, but if you just look at the recent years of Julian Edelman versus Larry Fitzgerald, they're almost identical. The same guy. And Fitzgerald's a little bit better, but Edelman is like, really, I

think should be valued similarly if he were playing 16 games. I don't know how you guys feel about that. But if you just go to Pro Football Reference and click on three or four years for Edelman and the last three years for Fitzgerald when he's been that 107-catch guy, their numbers would surprise you on a 16-game pace. It'd surprise you how similar they are. You should do what Heath does, which is player A versus player B.

I know. I should do that. You're right. And see who wins at the end of it. Just say one has Tom Brady, one has Sam Bradford. Yeah, that's a good point. All right, guys. Thanks a lot.

We're going to wrap up the show today. I didn't get to any emails. I'm sorry. We'll get to some tomorrow. FantasyFootball at CBSi.com. Going to do sleeper running backs. Probably maybe someer running backs. Probably maybe some bus running backs too because we might have to sneak wide receivers into running back week because the position previews are going to be kicking off as soon as next week.

Get excited. Counting down the hours to the Hall of Fame game. Dave and Jamie, thanks a lot. I'm Adam, and we'll talk to you tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. It's all right. I've got Le'Veon.

It's all right. Not George Le'Veon. It's all right. I've got Le'Veon Bell. It's all right.