Fantasy Football Today - 07/31: Everyone is a Bust Part 2! And Fill in the Blank (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 31, 2019

Starting the show with our thoughts on A.J. Green's diagnosis and when to draft him (is he still a Top 50 pick?) plus Andrew Luck's lingering calf issue and what it could mean for T.Y. Hilton. Then it...'s "Everyone is a Bust" Part 2 (8:13) as we tell you what could go wrong for James Conner, Michael Thomas, Odell Beckham, Travis Kelce and more ... News and notes (28:50) as Ryan Fitzpatrick, Maurice Harris, KeeSean Johnson and Miles Sanders get some good press while Marquise Brown makes his return to the practice field ... We've got some Fill in the Blank (42:00) from our listeners! Josh Jacobs' upside, the hardest player to predict on a weekly basis, David Montgomery's value and more ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Hey, guess what, everybody?
Starting point is 00:00:20 Football starts tomorrow with the Hall of Fame game, and we're going to have some coverage for you on CBS Sports HQ. Welcome to Fantasy Football today. Yeah, football starts tomorrow and ends in February. We're excited. Michael Thomas just got $100 million. He's probably pretty excited. And I did not get $100 million, but I still cannot wait to talk fantasy football with my buddies,
Starting point is 00:00:41 Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg. Good morning, guys. What's going on? What's up Adam? I'm not doing as well as Michael Thomas is but five years 100 million 61 million guaranteed. At least we know he's not holding out at all and we can draft accordingly now. Yeah and he'll be on today's show in the everyone is a bust section part two. We did part one yesterday with the first day picks of the draft. We'll do part two we did part one yesterday with the first day picks of the draft we'll do part two uh michael thomas caught 85 of his targets what if he doesn't do that again this year is the production going to be a little bit disappointing plus you got jared
Starting point is 00:01:14 cook in there uh maybe some young wide receivers step up we'll talk about michael thomas i want to know from you guys though what's the biggest news from yesterday also coming up on today's show we got some fill in the blank we have a funny five star review to read thank you very much for those and we've got a segment it should i call it old faces in new places or new faces in new places about guys on new teams old faces in new places but i mean but are you calling them old that's a thing like it's a mean thing to say jam Yeah, it's like you're offending them. You're saying you've got an old face. Yeah, not cool.
Starting point is 00:01:48 All right, well, we'll figure out the title before we get there. What's the biggest news item from yesterday? There's two. I would say the biggest one is A.J. Green having the procedure and the doctors realizing during the procedure that his timetable might be a little bit longer than initially expected. And it probably, it,
Starting point is 00:02:09 to me, it drops them out of the first five rounds for sure. Um, I, I like the idea of drafting them to be your eventual number three wide receiver with number one receiver potential, but I don't, I can't,
Starting point is 00:02:21 I can't find anybody that I would take him over with one of the first 60 picks in the draft. Ooh, man, that's far. I'm still taking Green in the first five rounds. We still don't know if it's one game or three games. That was never really determined beforehand. So six to eight weeks could still be the eight weeks where it's the three games. So first I moved him down, and then I decided, you know what, when I started comparing some of the guys in that range, he's the three games. So I, I first, I moved him down and then I decided, you know what,
Starting point is 00:02:45 when I started comparing some of the guys in that range, he's still a fifth round pick. And I think that's where his average draft position will probably settle. The, the two biggest news items from yesterday were the two calf injuries that we found out about, you know, Andrew Luck now has missed three months with this calf strain.
Starting point is 00:02:59 That's not a good sign at all. And Derek Henry, we found out it's going to be out for at least two weeks with a calf strain. So soft tissue injuries are never good. They're never good this time of year. And I'm a little bit concerned about both guys, not dramatically concerned yet. But, you know, it's troubling that for luck that this has lingered so long for a guy that has an injury track record of missing extended periods of time. You know, he's being smart
Starting point is 00:03:21 about it, which is the right thing, not necessarily rushing back on the field he doesn't have to but when you start to again nitpick those top four quarterbacks right now he's fourth okay and i i think obviously andrew luck would suffer if andrew luck got hurt but ty hilton we really need to talk about that because ty hilton 2017 andrew luck did not play ty hilton don't don'tilton was... I don't know if you want to go there yet. No, no. Alright. Fine. I understand what you're saying. But I just want people to know there's a huge downgrade. It's not like DeAndre Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Every quarterback he's had, except for Osweiler, he's been good. Without Andrew Luck, T.Y. Hilton is a high-end number three, low-end number two wide receiver. But again, at that point it was getting Jacoby Brissett from a trade from New England right at the start of the season
Starting point is 00:04:09 versus Brissett now two years in this offense, full season and then full offseason with Frank Reich. So I think it's an entirely different situation in what the backup could be. Now, again, I agree with you. It's a downgrade losing Andrew Luck. But I think that when we talk about these type of injuries, it's a little bit different when a guy is not expected to miss time. AJ Green is expected to miss some time.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So that's a different conversation when you talk about Dalton and Boyd and Mixon and all those guys. This is more of a where to draft these guys type of conversation. Like when we talk Gurley, who's not missing time or at least expected to miss time, or Luck, who's not expected to miss time. The reason I'm bringing it up is I don't want people to panic on, okay, now you downgrade T.Y. Hilton yet. You don't have to do that just yet. You may want to. I'm just looking into the future. I'm just saying, if
Starting point is 00:04:55 Andrew Luck misses time, you do have to downgrade T.Y. Hilton. A lot. I don't think it's a lot. You're right that the quarterback situation will be better. It was Brissette two years ago, but like you said, it was not an ideal situation for Brissette. And four years ago when Andrew Luck missed nine games, it was Matt Hasselbeck and Charlie Whitehurst and Josh Freeman
Starting point is 00:05:14 and Ryan Lindley. So it'll be a better situation for T.Y. Hilton. But he had seven games. In 2017, he had seven games with fewer than 30 yards. And Brissette threw 13 touchdown passes in 16 games. He'll do better than that. And you know what? We're not going to freak out about it.
Starting point is 00:05:31 It's too early. But right now, if you're drafting today, you'd still take luck over Baker Mayfield? Yes. Yeah, he's still in the top four. But again, it's the same thing with those running backs. Whenever there's anything that could make you be a little bit
Starting point is 00:05:48 cautious or concerned or whatever, because they're all great. They're all exceptional if they play 16 games. And so you're looking at who's better right now between Rodgers and Luck, Watson and Luck. Mahomes is going to go first as long as he has his full complement of weapons. And so it's just an easy situation
Starting point is 00:06:04 to say, okay, why take the whatever potential risk there may be involved with one of these guys? And so you may look at it and say, okay, right now we're talking about this. It's not even August yet. So why bother yourself with being worried about it if you're an Andrew Luck? I have Luck in a keeper league.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I'm not worried about it. I have seven keepers. I gotta pick four. He's easily one of the top four. But it's just, again, when you nitpick at these spots, when they're the best of the best, the three tight ends, the four running backs, the seven receivers, the four quarterbacks, it's just something to say, okay, I like this guy, 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, shuffle them up. And now luck falls to the bottom.
Starting point is 00:06:42 As far as AJ Green goes, I mean, there were two guys last year who we knew were going to miss time at the start of the season. I'm sure there were more, but two that come to mind were Julian Edelman and Mark Ingram. It was not because of injury, though. I got a third one, Doug Baldwin. Doug? Well, it depends when you drafted. Because he was ready for week one, wasn't he?
Starting point is 00:06:59 But he said he wasn't 100%. Yeah, and I drafted a lot of Doug Baldwin last year. He was falling late third round, early fourth round, and I was all in on it. I also drafted said he wasn't 100 yeah and i drafted a lot of doug baldwin last year because i you know he was falling late third round early fourth round and i was all in on i also drafted some julian edelman i was very happy with julian edelman uh mark ingram was a little bit of a disappointment his passing game production pretty much went away and i i think baldwin you don't obviously have to characterize as a disappointment that's probably the comparison we should make right
Starting point is 00:07:22 i mean got hurt in the preseason. Green's injury prone. But if it ends up being an Edelman situation, you're going to love to have A.J. Green with a top 60 pick. And just the last point to make about this, let's say he misses four games. We don't know that'll be that many, but let's say he misses four. There are no bye weeks in weeks one through three. In week four, the Jets and the 49ers are on a bye. So you have a better chance to get away with this injury at the start of the season, obviously, than you do later in the season. Okay. Today's sponsor is SeatGeek.
Starting point is 00:07:56 SeatGeek's been sponsoring us for years. We thank SeatGeek for continuing to support our show. FFT is the promo code on SeatGeek. So if you're going to a game, a concert, comedy, whatever, you want to save 10 bucks, download the SeatGeek app, use the code FFT. You're going to save money anyway. It's a really, really good app. You're going to get great deals. Let's do Everyone is a Bust Part 2. Yesterday, we talked about the top four running backs, Hopkins and Adams, David Johnson, and Le'Veon Bell. We continue in CBS ADP to number nine overall, and I removed Melvin Gordon and Patrick Mahomes from
Starting point is 00:08:28 this top 16, and I think I removed Todd Gurley too because we talked enough about him. Let's start with James Conner. So here's how it works. I give you a reason why he might be a bust. You tell me if you're buying it. You tell me just basically what you think. James Conner rushed for 65 or fewer
Starting point is 00:08:44 yards in eight of 13 games. He did not have more than 15 carries in any of those eight games. When he returned from an injury in week 17, Conner had three catches for 30 yards. Jalen Samuels had seven catches for 40 yards. Remember, no Antonio Brown in that game. My point is Conner was really, really helped by passing down's work. If it's going to Samuel, you could be a little concerned about James Connor. That's his best potential, in my opinion. Guys, what do you think? I also think he was helped by touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:09:13 If you look at his four best games from last year, he scored twice in each of them. But that's a role he's going to still have this year. And I know that he didn't have a lot of games with 20 plus carries, but he did have enough with 17, 18 plus touches. A lot of those 65 yard games that you refer to, he also had 25, 30, 34 yards receiving. And I think he's still going to get that. I think Jalen Samuels will have a role where he's catching three to four passes per game. I still think Connor's going to catch three to four passes per game. He's going to be the goal line guy. He is their best threat at running back. This is a team that has consistently had great running
Starting point is 00:09:54 backs going for them. I have no problem taking James Connor, certainly not PPR with the first round pick and a full PPR. I'd consider it late in round one, knowing that I'm going to get a good player in round two. Okay, Dave, thank you for the James Conner breakdown. We have a special surprise for everybody. Oh, big surprise. Again, the Heath is on again, unexpectedly. Heath, welcome. What are you doing here? It's really wonderful. I'm happy to be here, and I love the music. Thank you. You're very welcome. So here's what happened with the Michael Thomas breaking news. Jamie got pulled onto the HQ set
Starting point is 00:10:30 CBS Sports HQ. Download the CBS Sports app on any of your connected devices. Start watching HQ anywhere you are. I watch it on my phone sometimes, by the way. It's very cool. So Jamie's going to do some Michael Thomas stuff on HQ. He's going to step in here on the podcast. Next up is number 10 overall on ADP. It's Odell Beckham. My bus concern is there are there too many mouths to feed in Cleveland? Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:55 On paper, yes, but I don't think it's going to hurt Odell like it will Landry, Njoku, and Callaway. I'm surprised that that's the concern that you're going with Adam Because Odell Beckham Well injury concern for sure But he seems healthy right now
Starting point is 00:11:13 Which is something that we're Clinging to for a lot of players That have the injury prone label And his upside catching passes From Baker Mayfield is through the roof I mean if Sammy Watkins was going 10th overall We'd probably have injury concern as our first concern, right? He wouldn't go 10th overall.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Well, Odell Beckham's missed more games than he has. Yeah, it's a valid, valid concern. It is. The too-many-miles-to-feed thing, if we're not worried about it with Hopkins, why are we worried about it with Beckham? I mean, I feel like great players get their numbers. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:11:46 There's a couple of reasons. One, Jarvis Landry is better than, in terms of demanding targets, Will Fuller or Kiki QT. Okay, what about Landry plus, say, Njoku versus Fuller plus QT on a team that's probably not going to pass as much as the Browns because they're a running team, the Texans. That's the thing that we don't know because if you look at the Browns' offense after Kitchens took over last year, they only ran 57 plays a game.
Starting point is 00:12:17 They were not particularly pass-heavy. Yeah. They were when they were losing. The Texans are a little more run- heavy maybe than the Browns this year, but the Texans have always been a team that runs 64, 65 plays a game. If Houston's more fast-paced, there may be a similar number of pass attempts. You know, it's hard to find a situation where teams don't try to upgrade their receiving core, right?
Starting point is 00:12:41 Like you could look at Devontae Adams, DeAndre Hopkins, Julio Jones, not Juju, and Michael Thomas, and Odell Beckham, and you could say with all of them, hey, there are other guys there that might be better this year than the year before. You know, there might be
Starting point is 00:12:56 a target share issue. Yeah, not Juju. No, not Juju. Right, exactly. But the other guys, yes. So I guess of all these wide receivers, Heath, it sounds like, I feel like Beckham's the one
Starting point is 00:13:09 that might concern you the most in terms of target share. Relative to the number of targets he has received in the past, I would say Beckham is the one that concerns me the most. Relative to the number of targets they received last year,
Starting point is 00:13:21 Adams would be the one that concerned me the most. One, because it's such an outlier in terms of his career and two because they have a new offensive system that i anticipate will be built more upon spreading the ball around as opposed to dropping back running the same routes and throwing it to the same guy every play right that i agree with you on that with green bay in the case of cleveland i think that they want to use nick chubb a lot i think they right if freddie kitchens had his druthers he would give nick chubb 15 to 20 carries per game i think you could say that about most coaches but you don't acquire odell beckham and then only give him six
Starting point is 00:13:55 targets a game you can't say all right now great we've got odell beckham let's keep spreading the ball around let's get rashad higgins involved a little bit more. It's just not going to happen. Odell is too dangerous of a receiver. This is the addition of Todd Monken is going to make the passing offense at the very least. He will whisper in Freddie's ear. Let's throw it deep. We've got this great quarterback who can make plays and we've got this great
Starting point is 00:14:19 receiver who can run and make plays deep. And, and to Beckham's credit in the games he has played over the last year and the last two years, he's come away with an over 62.5% success rate, meaning that he's been consistent enough to make you happy as a fantasy manager. So I think he's going to get the targets.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I think he's going to get the touchdowns. I think he's going to be as good, if not even a little bit better, than he was in New York with Eli Mann. All right, next up, Julio Jones. Here's the bus potential. Well, you know, he seems to be always having some type of lower leg issue or whatnot, but Atlanta had the eighth-worst scoring defense in the NFL
Starting point is 00:15:00 in 2018, and Matt Ryan threw 75 more passes than he had thrown in either of his previous two seasons. You got Calvin Ridley emerging. You got Devontae Freeman back. Don't expect 170 targets again for Julio Jones. Think more like 150. Sure. Fair. That's still pretty damn good.
Starting point is 00:15:22 So he's only going to have 90 catches for 1,400 or 1,500 yards. Yeah, and one touchdown. No. Well, you'd like 100 catches for him. I mean, he's certainly capable of giving you 100 catches. Yeah, I don't know if I have him projected for 100 or not. Who would you rather have, Beckham or Julio?
Starting point is 00:15:40 I'd rather have Julio. I don't agree that this Falcons defense is going to be worlds better. I don't know where their pass rush is coming from. They played the Panthers twice a year, the Bucks twice a year, the Saints twice a year. They're going to have matchups against Houston and Indianapolis. And they're playing indoors for, I believe it's like the first 10 games of the season. Something crazy like that. 13 of their games are indoors this year.
Starting point is 00:16:04 They are going to be in a ton of track meets and you know how I stand on, on Devante Freeman. We've seen Julio Jones get at least 80 catches, at least 1400 yards. Each of his last five seasons, that includes his crappy 2017 when he was playing hurt. And I know the touchdowns are an issue, but he's reunited with Dirk Cutter who loves to air it out, and Cutter helped Julio find 10 touchdowns the last time that they were together as play caller and receiver. I am optimistic about Julio Jones. To me, the biggest concern is what you started with, Adam. It's the injury. Even though he's not going to play in a preseason game, he's not practicing much, if at all, right now.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Can I go on a quick tangent, by the way? Sure. playing a preseason game he's not practicing much if at all right now yeah it feels can i can i go on a quick tangent by the way sure why not it feels like week eight there are too many injuries already training camp hasn't even been open for a week today is basically a week and it feels like there's already like 10 players who are hurt i'm just being grouchy about this but there there are already too many injuries to worry about for fantasy. I mean, I'm not worried about it. And it's not even August 1st. I'm not worried about a bunion being removed from his foot.
Starting point is 00:17:12 That's what it is for Jones. But he does get banged up. He plays through injury. He misses some time. You know, it's a little concerning. We've now, I think, said more words about injury concern with Julio Jones than we did Odell Beckham. Yeah, you're right. But just because we said more words doesn't mean we're not more concerned about Beckham.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Julio's played at least 14 games four or five years in a row now. I mean, by week five, we're going to be starting practice squad. Five years in a row. At least 14 games. He's missed three games in the last five years. Next up, Juju Smith-Schuster. What's the bus concern? There's no Antonio Brown. He's got to games in the last five years. Next up, Juju Smith-Schuster. What's the bus concern? There's no Antonio Brown.
Starting point is 00:17:46 He's got to be the number one guy now. Yeah, this is a really bad bus concern. This is stealing at his current ADP, and I almost made him a sleeper. You can't call him a sleeper, but you can call him a breakout because I think he does have a chance. To say that he's going to get a career high in touchdowns this year is a no-brainer statement if he can beat 111 catches in 1400 yards I think he can but I I think he I think he can beat the yardage I'm not sure if he can beat the catches
Starting point is 00:18:18 I think the Steelers aren't going to lean too too much on him but he's just such a unique type of receiver. There's a lot of receivers like this in the league that are just making great plays after the catch. They're slippery when defenders get their hands on them. He's not necessarily a speed guy. I don't think they're going to air it out to him two or three times a game. I bet he has a 97-yard reception.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Well, he's done that each of the last years, but have you seen how they've come? They're mostly catching runs where he's making a play. I know, but it doesn't happen every week. No, it's not going to happen every week, but he's a very good receiver. He's going to get
Starting point is 00:18:56 around 150 targets. He's going to get more. He's going to get 166 with Antonio Brown. I know. I think the Steelers find ways to get other people involved and not make it a one-receiver passing game. I don't think it'll be a one-receiver passing game, but I still expect him to throw it 600-plus times.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I've got him. I've tried really hard to, like, rein in my Juju Smith-Schuster projection so that it's not too outlandish. Right around 1,420 yards, like last year, 10 touchdowns on 174 targets. I honestly believe there's 200 target upside here, and he might lead the league in basically every receiving category. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So Juju Smith-Schuster played three games in his career without Antonio Brown and has caught a touchdown in all three of them. Joe Mixon is up next. Bust potential for Joe Mixon. Bad offensive line. Lost their first round pick for the season. And his points per game in Cincinnati losses would have made him the number 20 running back in non-PPR, number 17 in PPR. He was much better in wins. They kind of got away from him when they lost. And they were terrible without A.J. Green. The O-line is very concerning over Joe Mixon. That's, I think, the big bust when they lost, and they were terrible without A.J. Green. The O-line's very concerning, though, for Joe Mixon. That's, I think, the big-bust potential.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Sure, but they had a bad offensive line last year, and he still had good numbers. A very good year, but not an amazing year. Probably more like a second-round, mid-second-round pick kind of player. I think he was like the number-eight-ish running back.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah, I feel nervous about where I have him ranked, which is basically a borderline first-round pick, a high-end second-round pick. What I will say is I think he fits very well in that group of running backs we were talking about earlier in the week with
Starting point is 00:20:39 Kerryon Johnson, because there is a little bit of injury concern. There is a little bit of concern with how bad this team is and just how much they'll be able to run the ball. I think you put him in there with Mixon, with carry on. He is Leonard Fournette. Yeah. He's at the top of the list for me right now,
Starting point is 00:20:56 but I could easily make an argument that he should be at the bottom of the list. Okay. Next up, we got Michael Thomas. Yeah. He caught 85% of his targets last year. And he was so far and away the best receiver on the Saints. He had about twice as many receiving yards and receiving touchdowns
Starting point is 00:21:16 as any other pass catcher, including Alvin Kamara. What if the targets come down a little bit? Not going to catch 85%. I really don't think he will. He's not going to get 85%. I really don't think he will. He's not going to get 170 targets or anything like that. Michael Thomas, I kind of feel like he's a little bit better in real life
Starting point is 00:21:32 than he is for fantasy. What do you guys think? I think you're right. The addition of Jared Cook could certainly take some targets off of him. The motivation to play huge is maybe gone a little bit now that he got the contract that he was looking for, $20 million a year. But he's a complete receiver who I think
Starting point is 00:21:55 Drew Brees has just learned to really count on and trust. And if he's going to continue with the high catch rate that he's had, not just last year, but even the year before. I think he's probably one of the safest PPR picks you can make. I think a lot of the arguments against Thomas are against his upside and against taking him as a top three wide receiver. But he feels like maybe the safest guy that you could take in that one-two turn range. One of the most bust proof.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Okay. He had 147 targets last year, Michael Thomas. Who has more targets, Thomas or Beckham? That's a good one. I think I'll say... I'm doing math in my head. I think Odell will beat him by less than 10 targets. I have Thomas with nine more targets.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Next up, Travis Kelsey. He is 15th in CBS ADP, removing Melvin Gordon, removing Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes just will not be as good. And the numbers, you know, last year may have been the best year of Travis Kelsey's career. It just seems like there's a little bit of regression coming. Probably. Sure. Maybe a little bit of regression coming. Probably. Sure, maybe a little. Yeah, the thing I've been struggling with,
Starting point is 00:23:09 because I do think there's probably, he was not really that much more efficient than he's ever been. He averaged 13 yards per reception last year. He's averaged 12.8 for his career. He caught 68% of his targets. He's caught 708 for his career. He caught 68% of his targets. He's caught 70% for his career. If they run more plays,
Starting point is 00:23:34 which I think they probably will if they're less efficient because they're not going to have as many 50-yard touchdowns, then it's possible Kelsey's targets don't really go down. He seems pretty safe too. Yep. I think that's the best word for it. And he's got the highest upside of any tight end in fantasy, which is why he's the first tight end
Starting point is 00:23:51 off the board. I have him projected for more targets than Thomas Orbeck. All right. Then finally, number 16 in CBS ADP. Again, this is removing three plays. Really number 19, but not talking about Melvin Gordon,
Starting point is 00:24:02 not talking about Mahomes. And I didn't put Todd Gurley here. It would have todd girley but i figure we've we've beaten that dead horse uh dalvin cook the only bus potential i really see here is that he's played only 15 games in two seasons but i think you know i think he's gonna pretty much gonna tear it up when he's healthy but yeah dalvin cook that's his potential. Can't stay healthy so far. I mean, that's at the top of the list for Dalvin Cook. Right. But right behind that is he only has nine. He's played 15 games, just like you said.
Starting point is 00:24:33 In nine of them, he's given you 10 plus non-PPR points, 60% of the time. 15 plus PPR, six of 15 games, only 40% of the time. Which surprised me because I think Dalvin cook is a four or five catch per game guy, especially now without anybody else on the roster who, who the Vikings coaches can look at and say, oh yeah, he can, he can help in the passing game. You know, who helps in the passing game when Dalvin cook isn't catching the ball and they
Starting point is 00:25:02 want to extend run plays Irv well that's one and Rudolph is two but it's not the name I was thinking of go look how many times Adam Thielen has had a big game when the running back for the Vikings has also had a big game it's only seven times in his career when it's happened and Thielen's been around for a while right and and Mike Zimmer came out this week and he's, he's, he, he doesn't want to talk about how many carries Davin Cook's going to get. I agree. He's a, he's an unbelievable talent.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And I, I fell for him as a rookie. I fell for him last year, but I'm, I'm, I'm worried the Vikings are worried and that they're going, I'm sorry, that they're going to limit him a little bit more than we'd like. And that combined with the track record that we saw last year and the year before makes me very nervous to draft him in round two. I've got a question. If Dalvin Cook rushes for 960 yards and catches 50 passes for 400 yards, he has 1300 yards and scores six touchdowns this season. Is he a bust in the second round? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Not in PPR. But he's not worth the second round. He's just maybe a third round value instead of a second round value. Sure, because at draft time, I would imagine that there would be more players available, certainly with more touchdown potential. Because that's what he's done in 15 career games.
Starting point is 00:26:24 It's a little deceiving, though, because he was really limited Certainly with more touchdown potential. Because that's what he's done in 15 career games. That's what I thought we were getting at. It's a little deceiving, though, because he was really limited when he came back from the injury. They just did not turn him loose first few games back. He had like 10 carries-ish. I think it's a little deceiving, but that's in your favor here. His biggest production, I would argue, came in his first three and a half games.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Right. And I don't know how often he's going to get that type of production moving forward. I guess the bigger thing with that was the six touchdowns. They've not really given him a lot of opportunities in short yardage. And I understand questioning the talent and ability of Alexander Madison. But the one thing I'm confident Alexander Madison can do is run like a battering ram into the line and pick up a yard when he needs to. Well, and this is, this is a team and I went back and check this out.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Maybe I have the information right in front of me. Maybe I can find it real quick. They love throwing it inside the five. Like it wasn't Latavius Murray stealing touchdowns at the goal line vulture style. Well, he had more touchdowns than, than cook each year. Yeah. Well, because cook missed so many games. This is a team that doesn't mind throwing it inside the three. And that hurts Dalvin Cook. Okay, well, there's some bus cases for 9 through 16 in CBS ADP. We got some more news and notes.
Starting point is 00:27:39 We got some fill in the blank. We got old or new faces in new places. And, you know, we got to talk about Latavius Murray, who used to be on the Vikings. We got old or new faces in new places. And, you know, we got to talk about Latavius Murray, who used to be on the Vikings. I think he's pretty interesting this year. Tyrell Williams is somebody that he's been really high on. So stick around for that.
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Starting point is 00:28:47 Gambling problem? For free assistance, call the Connex Ontario helpline at 1-866-531-2600. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Your news and notes. Some of it you already know. AJ Green likely going to miss multiple regular season games after the ankle surgery. Derrick Henry, guys, he could miss two weeks with a strained calf.
Starting point is 00:29:11 On Fantasy Football Calculator in non-PPR, Derrick Henry is the 24th pick, which even without the injury I think would have been a little crazy. But yeah, your thoughts on the Titans running backs. Nervous for a guy that you're expecting to see 15 carries per game from. Not to mention goal line work already dealing with a soft tissue injury. On the flip side, the Titans don't need to run him this preseason very much. I think they know what they've got in him. And so if he's really going to miss just two weeks,
Starting point is 00:29:45 I'm still okay going for him late round four to round five, depending on if catches count or not. If catches count, definitely round five. Damian Williams did not practice on Tuesday, so it's getting a touch concerning, as Heath, you were talking about yesterday. Yeah, I said when this first happened that I was going to give it a week, and I'm getting antsy.
Starting point is 00:30:10 I want to cut his projection a little bit, but I'm not going to do it. I'm going to give it a week if he's out for a week. The other thing is there were tweets out yesterday about how good Darwin Thompson is, how much he's improved in the passing game, how much he's improved in pass protection. So Damien Williams probably needs to get back pretty quick. That's the running back that I would get to pair with Damien Williams
Starting point is 00:30:31 because Darwin Thompson is like Damien Williams. He's a good pass catcher out of the backfield. He's fast and he's strong. Every single coach, when they talk about Damien Williams in KC, they talk about how muscular he is. That's something that he might have right in line with Carlos Hyde and Carlos Hyde is not fast so it might not be very long until Darwin Thompson ends up being a thing for the Chief
Starting point is 00:30:54 Julio Jones won't play in the preseason Ryan Fitzpatrick is leading the Miami quarterback competition Seattle rookie defensive end LJ Collier has a high ankle sprain. This team could have issues getting to the quarterback. Yeah, especially in the beginning part of the year. Baltimore rookie Marquise Brown could practice this week. He had foot surgery in January. I don't know. I feel like we may have overreacted to his injury status. I think he needs to get on the field because Myles Boykin's winning the number one receiver job right now. He had a broken foot. I don't think that's overreacting. I think it's overreacting.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Marquise Brown is going mega late in drafts. He's not even close to the first. Ahead of Boykin. He should be. He was the first wide receiver selected in the NFL draft. He's an absolute bull. He was taken a round before Boykin. It matters a lot more that rookies miss practice, miss training camp, miss stuff in the summer, and it can really hinder their development in
Starting point is 00:31:52 their first year. Boykin's been there for the last three months working with Lamar Jackson. We're getting reports about how good the rapport is between Jackson and Boykin. I'm not saying that Brown, I'm ruling him out now but I think it's about a coin flip right now which of these guys is going to be the number one on week one I would just add that if the Ravens use Brown the way that he was used at Oklahoma which would make perfect sense given the the scheme that they're running he'll assimilate into the offense just fine but he does need to like you know practice He needs to get back on the field, and then he needs to
Starting point is 00:32:26 stay healthy. These are both guys that you're going to draft to be bench receivers. I think Brown still has more upside than Boykin. I think Boykin was a third-round pick, right? I think he went... He was. And he also... 93rd overall. That's... 93rd overall. That's like 70 picks later
Starting point is 00:32:42 than Marquise Brown. It matters to me. I don't know how that makes sense. No, you can't do that. You don't care about Corey Davis' pedigree. Corey Davis has had two years to show his pedigree. He's done nothing with it. He was a top 30 wide receiver last year.
Starting point is 00:32:54 He showed a little bit of it. Oh, come on. He's been garbage. Corey Davis would be a much better receiver if he was a better receiver. If either of these guys have a top 30 season, I'll be shocked. It's not even a place. Top 30? Corey Davis was a far better pedigree than either of these receivers.
Starting point is 00:33:06 You're not telling me that Corey Davis. I don't know about that. Marquise Brown's like one of the fastest receivers that we've ever seen come into the NFL. That plays in the NFL today, especially with Lamar Jackson, who just like Lamar Jackson is not exactly a great passer. So just get easy completions and let him do something after the catch. You know, I don't really trust Lamar Jackson to make any wide receiver good, but I feel like Marquise Brown can make himself good. Well, you need to have a quarterback that can get on the ball in order to do that.
Starting point is 00:33:36 He's got one. Okay, I hope he has one. Bruce Arians expects a good battle between Ronald Jones and Peyton Barber. If you're drafting today, who do you take first, Peyton Barber or Ronald Jones? Bill Barber, but it's getting closer. I don't really want to take either one of them. New England wide receiver Maurice Harris is looking good, getting good pub. Any interest in Maurice Harris?
Starting point is 00:33:57 I remember him looking good for a game or two last year with Washington, and now it seems like he's just right place, right time with the Patriots. Josh Gordon suspended. Edelman's hurt, so he's getting opportunities. Maybe he starts off the year getting four or five catches per game from Brady. Maybe less. Maybe three or four.
Starting point is 00:34:18 He cracked my top 200 this week. Golden Tate is unlikely to win his appeal, according to SNY. NJ.com and The Athletic both praised week. Golden Tate is unlikely to win his appeal. According to SNY, uh, NJ.com and the athletic both praised Eagles running back. Miles Sanders. This was at the top of yesterday's show. We talked about Jordan Howard and I, I hope we didn't go too far.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Like I do think if Jordan Howard is going to get 15 carries a game, you know, then he's going to be valuable. But you know, I, like I said, none of us think he's that good and i still think i still think it's mostly flex upside and yeah sanders for both just because of the track record
Starting point is 00:34:55 of how the eagles use the running back right i think they want to eventually have mile sanders be their main back whether that happens by week six of this year or week six of next year and what does that mean when they say main bell someone who will play 60 of the snaps right it won't be right it won't be saquon barkley it's not going to be like that but i think they've got a little bit higher expectation of miles sanders than a guy that we can use with two other guys. It's, I think they want him to, to eventually be their primary. I 15 touch a week. I don't my,
Starting point is 00:35:30 and this could be wrong. I don't have a line to Doug Peterson, but my understanding of their philosophy is that they do not believe in the concept of a main guy. And most teams don't until they have, they believe in skill sets and using guys in different ways. And I, which I don't think Miles have one. They believe in skill sets and using guys in different ways. Uh-huh. And I don't think Miles Sanders changes that.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Not yet. Not until he proves it. But once he proves that he can be that guy, they'll ride him. If. I shouldn't say when. I should say if. The Saints sign Rob Kelly. Tyreek Hill has. Well, I mean, this is huge news.
Starting point is 00:36:02 How much time do we have to go into on this? Tyreek Hill has a bruised quad, but he's fine. Arizona rookie wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson continues to have a good camp. He's getting a lot of good pub. They're saying he's going to be the number three receiver there. Okay, so if we look at Marquise Brown, Keyshawn Johnson, Maurice Harris, how would you rank them? Brown.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Fair enough. And Jameson Crowder is just fine. no worries about his foot slash angle that's good yeah that's a that's a good late round ppr receiver not i don't know if it's good for robbie anderson but it's good for jameson crowder all right yesterday jamie told you that if you write a five-star review for us we we'd really, we all told you, we'd really appreciate it. He said that one of you five-star reviewers, if you send it to us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com,
Starting point is 00:36:50 we'll join the podcast league. And I'm cool with that because this will help us out. I'd much appreciate it. We got a lot yesterday. Thank you to our listeners. You guys are the best. My favorite one was this one.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Five-star review on Apple Podcasts, on iTunes. Great guys, most informed of any fantasy football podcast. That's the easy part. This podcast goes way beyond the five stars. Since I started listening to this podcast, my life has changed. I found $20 in my jeans pocket while doing laundry. My one-and-a-half-year-old said his first word, which was Heath.
Starting point is 00:37:20 My 10-year-old made his Little League All-Star team. My confidence in life has gone up, which means my wife is once again attracted to me and has cut off her relationship with the pool boy, and we don't even have a pool, so I'll save money paying for regular pool cleanings. It's so good that we are talking about having another baby, and I'm 63.582%
Starting point is 00:37:38 sure I'll name him Adam if it's a boy. Heck, I may even name him Adam if it's a girl. I even noticed my monthly electric bill has gone down 10%. I can't promise you'll have the same luck I have had listening, but it couldn't hurt. Thank you guys for bringing meaning to my life again. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:37:54 It's really good. It's really funny. And I like it. I'd like to see a five-star review where we actually did help people. Like an example of how we helped you. Those are like 17 examples. But that didn't help this guy win his league. Who cares if his electric bill went down 10%?
Starting point is 00:38:10 Tell me how we helped you win your league last. Do you guys have iPhones? Yes. Do you have that little stupid white adapter that you have to put in to use headphones? The dongle? You have to plug the adapter into the headphone jack
Starting point is 00:38:28 and then the headphones into the adapter. Sure, I've got one of those. I think it's called a dongle. No, I just have headphones that have been made in the last decade. What are you talking about? The new iPhone has a... The lightning adapter.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, yeah, the lightning. My headphones just have a lightning plug-in. They do? I've got like seven earbuds around my house that have the lightning adapter. Yeah, I don't have... But I do own one dongle that takes an old-school headphone
Starting point is 00:38:52 and puts it into... That's all I have is old-school headphones. That's okay, as long as it works. Well, by story... They might not work for much longer because they're at least 10 years old. You know, they have wireless ones now. I have put that in the washing machine, the white adapter, like six times.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I wash it almost every time I use it. I put it in my pocket and I forget about it. I have washed and dried. What, it's a dongle? That's what you said? The lighting adapter? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I find in my laundry. So there's another five-star review. I said if you leave a question in your five-star review, we'll answer it. Can't guarantee that, but we will answer some. From Robert, dear Michael, Val, George, and Christian. I know it.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Batman. Yeah. PPR, 12-team league. I have my choice. I can't do it. I have my choice of draft spot. I'm falling more and more in love in a 12-team PPR league with the 10-11-12 range.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Is it worth passing on a top four pick? The best part about picking that late in round one is that you're guaranteed two top 15 players. Guaranteed. And if you like two of those top 15 and they're not one of those top four running backs, have at it. Two elite players to build your team around, typically better than one. I prefer pick number four. i think that's the best pick um but i am every day this week falling more and more in love with not taking any running backs in the first five rounds and picks 10 through 12 are perfect for that yep so if you want to be a little adventurous that is a great place to be all right hey by the way uh we got a tweet
Starting point is 00:40:22 raven from jameson Hensley. It covers the Ravens. Ravens first-round pick Marquis Hollywood Brown runs his first NFL drill. Okay, and there's a picture of him. He must be ready to rock. He looks like he's making a one-handed catch. I know we don't have a lot of extra time today. Correct.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And I'm not going to use this person's name. I tweeted about it last night. But you read the worst email we've ever received yesterday. I thought I should read the best email we've ever received today. Okay. Yeah. I was going to respond to this guy, but you'll find out why I didn't go ahead. Heath. Um, he actually sent two emails. His second email was the greatest email ever in response to his first email that was sent 11 minutes prior. His second email was, never mind, I was wrong. Don't tell Heath, you'll make me sound stupid. Yeah, and I didn't tell Heath,
Starting point is 00:41:09 but Heath saw it himself. Well, do you want to read the first email or no? Sure, because it's actually informative. I've been a listener for years and a number of those, I've heard Heath use the phrase regression to the mean
Starting point is 00:41:21 and apply it to both a decrease and increase in numbers. Regression always means to decrease. If he is talking about numbers increasing to reach the mean, that's progression. You cannot regress forward, Heath. Please clean this up. Yeah, and the subject line was get Heath a dictionary, I think. Yes. And the follow-up email was never mind, Heath is right. So yeah, when we say regression, there is positive regression. There is negative regression. It just means getting closer to the mean.
Starting point is 00:41:48 All right. We do have a CBS sports HQ show tomorrow night before the hall of fame game. I'll give you some details on Twitter. I'll give you some details on the podcast, but it should be an hour before the game. I'm going to be on that. Jamie's going to be on that. Make sure you're watching us on CBS sports HQ.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And I think there might be a post game show too. It's going to be a late night. Let's do some fill in the blank. This is from Stoogies. The Miami Dolphins have blank players who belong on a fantasy roster. Four. And they are?
Starting point is 00:42:19 Drake, Balazs, Stills, Albie. Wilson, yep. And then Ryan Fitzpatrick, of course, is going to throw for 12 touchdowns. Maybe in two quarterback leagues. In two quarterback leagues, he does need to be rostered. Brett says Josh Jacobs' upside is blank. 1,500 yards and 10 touchdowns. Ooh, that seems fair.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Running back, top 10 running back? Yep. Top 12 maybe running back? He would have to perform like the rookie, like Leonard Fournette did as a rookie, something like that to get there. We're not in Wisconsin anymore. It says Blank will have the third most receptions
Starting point is 00:42:58 for the Saints after Thomas and Kamara. Cook. Cook. Robert says the most frustrating player to try and predict week to week will be blank. Also taste some Hill. No, um, that's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:43:15 You can go in a hundred different direct. You can take any of the, you know, boomer bus receivers, Sean Jackson. Yeah, exactly. I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:24 you can almost say something similar for any rams receiver i was gonna say any rams from week to week i was gonna go cooper cup yeah i think the eagles will be worse well the the problem is that we're drafting the top three rams receivers to be starters for our team we're gonna start them each week but predicting how they're going to do each week is going to be really tough. Yeah. How many bad games did Brandon Cooks have last year? Probably eight because every year it seems like he's got eight good games
Starting point is 00:43:52 and eight bad games. I don't know. I think Woods is going to fall in line and Cup at least has some touchdown potential each week. He was pretty consistent last year. Cup is the guy that has the low yard totals per game. Right, and the high touchdown. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Brandon Cooks was. Yeah. Well, Brandon Cooks was very consistent until the end of the season when like they were all pretty bad, except maybe Robert Woods. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:15 He had a four game stretch that was bad towards the end. But other than that, he was extremely good. The offense just completely fell off. All right. Lucas says in 2020 blank will drop from a first-round pick
Starting point is 00:44:27 to a fourth or a fifth-round pick. That's a big drop. Most likely to drop that much. James Conner. I was going to say David Johnson. God, I have a hard time believing either of those. I really like them both. Because David Johnson will be 28 next year.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So if he's worth a second or third round pick this year, it could really fall fast. Yeah, I think Connor, I'm just not sure how good he is. And look, I mean, I'm going to take him in the first round. But just, you know, it's possible he's not that good and the steelers might move in a different direction or draft a running back to replace him okay next up fair argument fair argument possible the uh the six the cliff kingsbury experiment could just go terribly wrong good and then we'll then we'll be like, hey, listen, three years ago,
Starting point is 00:45:25 David Johnson was great. Kyle says, if I miss out on a top-tier tight end, I'm waiting until the blank round to fill that position, tight end. I don't think you can answer this with just one number because if Evan Ingram falls to me at the right spot, I'm just going to take him unless you consider him one of the top tight ends at this point. Is he a top tight end?
Starting point is 00:45:48 I think the top tier is the big three. That's how I interpret it. That's what I meant that time. I'm generally waiting to the fifth round to try to get one of Ingram, Howard, or Henry. If I miss them, then I'm probably waiting until the double-digit rounds. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Next up is one that I forgot to do research for. From Philly Special. The week one bonanza is blank. Okay, I'm trying to pull up the week one schedule. Houston at New Orleans. New Orleans would be a really good one. You know what I'm going to do this year for the bonanza? The bonanza is the game I pick every week to have massive fantasy output
Starting point is 00:46:22 where all the guys you thought about starting do well. It was good last year, right? I don't know. I think I want to do it Survivor Pool style where I just pick one team and I can't use them again rest of season. I don't think you should limit yourself like that. I think it'd be fun. It'd be a fun little
Starting point is 00:46:40 challenge. I think Colts Chargers has Bonanza potential. Assuming that Andrew Luck's healthy. Bucks Nints Chargers has Bonanza potential. Assuming that Andrew Luck's healthy. Bucks Niners is your sneaky Bonanza. And then finally, Dr. Rob says, at his current ADP,
Starting point is 00:46:56 drafters will be blank about David Montgomery. What's the ADP? Round 5? Is that the latest on him? Uh, no, no, I see around fourth.
Starting point is 00:47:12 That is so high. It might be a little way too high. Yeah. Montgomery. And I'm excited about him. I think that he's got a great opportunity to rumble for eight touchdowns this year. Disappointed. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yeah, I moved him down in my ranking. Well, I've been really wanting to read some emails here. I've been neglecting the emailers. And I hate when I plug a section and we don't get to it. So I'm going to do it anyway. New faces in new places or old faces in new places. We'll have to wait until tomorrow. Email time.
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Starting point is 00:48:41 Those are Rices. Rices, yes. Could have done like Uncle Ben. Could have given a little more creative with that. Who makes for a better long-term keeper, Chris Godwin or Dante Pettis? Godwin. I'll say Godwin.
Starting point is 00:48:53 All right. This is Bill from a southwest Chicago suburb just northwest of Dave's hometown. Is that like Oak Forest maybe? Oak Park? One of the oaks? Sure. Why not?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Dear Fatso, Stinky, and Stretch. I'll be Stinky. This is Casper's... Oh, great. So I know who I am. He's tall, so he's Stretch. These are the ghosts from Casper, apparently. My league switched to an all-play format last year.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Wondering your take on this. It does seem to solve the problem of scoring the second most points in a week, but lose because you played the highest scoring team. So I believe this to mean you play everybody each week and the top six scores get a win. No. And the bottom six scores get a win.
Starting point is 00:49:38 No, you play everybody every week and your record is whatever you went that week. 0-11, 1-11, 0. You play 11 different teams. You might be 11-0 that week. You might be 0-11. I don't have a problem with it. It's a better way to determine who has the best team.
Starting point is 00:49:52 The better way... It probably takes some of the fun out of it. It does. We've done it before. We've done it before. Remember, Nando was part of the show, and we did a second podcast league, and it was an all-play league.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I think it was my least favorite league I ever played in. I absolutely hated it. If you like it, fine. I am not endorsing all-play. I'd rather not play. It sounds like our For the People Baseball League that you guys can't make the playoffs in. Can't make the playoffs? I'm 100% making the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I have the second best record. The For the People League? Oh, oh, oh, oh. Sorry. I thought you meant the other one. Never mind. Heath's right. But that's not an all-play league.
Starting point is 00:50:31 No, it's just a league that was designed that you hate. Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. Chris from a town on the Central Coast in California. Fresno isn't anywhere near the coast, but that's where you're from. You're closer to the California coast than I am. A lot of analysts are in love with Jameis Winston this year,
Starting point is 00:50:48 but last year he was a QB1 only four times, like top 12, and he was top six only once in 10 games played. Just will have to edit this email, Chris, because that had to be at least twice. He scored 37 fantasy points twice, both against Atlanta. One of those was week 17. Anyway, Jameis' numbers pale in comparison to passers going near and even after his ADP.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Bruce Arians is a genius, but he can't throw the ball for Jameis Winston, so why so much industry trust in Winston this year? And I got to tell you, I'm sort of on Chris' side on this. I am too. Jameis was the number three quarterback in Week 17. Number three. Okay, but he was top six. Yeah, so that was the second time as top six.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah, so he did it twice, and he did it both times against the worst pass defense in the NFL. It goes back to something Jamie has said a lot this preseason, and I kind of go against it with the top six or seven, but if you're looking at a quarterback after the first eight or nine rounds of the draft the only thing that should really matter to you is
Starting point is 00:51:51 upside because each week there are going to be three or four streaming options on your waiver wire and some leagues I was in last year I was able to find Carson Wentz on the waiver wire. So our listeners on CBS are not going to have that same experience, though. His ADP is 99.
Starting point is 00:52:08 That's the ninth round. They're not going to have that same waiver wire experience, I mean, because our listeners are going to play in leagues where more quarterbacks get drafted. There can be 20 quarterbacks owned and still be three or four streaming options each week. I mean, maybe. But, no, look, I like Jameis.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I'm going to draft some Jameis. But I do fear him a little bit because he really just hasn't been a very good player. The other thing I'll say, and I'll mention this on the QB preview next week, Bruce Arians, it took Carson Palmer a year. His first year with Bruce Arians, he basically had the same-ish passer rating as he did with the Bengals. Second year, he took a big step forward. Third year, he took a huge step forward. And I've heard Bruce Arians talk about how it takes time to adjust to a new system.
Starting point is 00:52:48 So there's a lot to like and there's a lot to dislike. He's going to be an interesting player. There's a very, very low floor. I would not suggest. I don't think he's as good of option in a two-quarterback league. But in a one-quarterback league, I can stream if I need to. I want the upside. Jeremy from Australia wants to know
Starting point is 00:53:07 how we feel about 16-team leagues, and do you think it's better to draft tight ends early because streaming them would be tougher in a 16-team league? Absolutely. And I like 16-team leagues because more people to beat, maybe better prizes to win,
Starting point is 00:53:24 and more challenging. And in those types of formats, yeah, absolutely, prizes to win, and more challenging. And in those types of formats, yeah, absolutely, I'm going after a tight end. I'm probably going to be a little more balanced all the way around in a 16-team league. I always fear running back depth in deeper leagues, and it often comes at the expense of the tight end. My justification for that is that there are going to be
Starting point is 00:53:42 a lot of teams in a 16-team league that have a lousy tight end. So if you are one of those teams, it's not quite as much of a disadvantage. However, I don't think there's a right answer. Dave's reasoning totally makes sense to me, too. You're just looking for whatever reason you can to devalue tight ends. Add a roster spot, tight end's not worth as much. Add a couple of players, tight end's not worth as much. It's the same in a 12 team league your lineup is different
Starting point is 00:54:08 in a good way if you've got a tight end that can perform like a top 15 receiver yeah absolutely simple value proposition not being able to find running back on a waiver on the waiver wire in a 16 team league but you know what you're going to have that problem
Starting point is 00:54:23 no matter how you draft in a 16 team league. But you know what? You're going to have that problem. No matter how you draft in a 16 team league, unless you spend your first four picks on running backs, in which case the rest of your team is going to suffer, not just tight end. Your receivers are going to suffer too. You're going to suffer somewhere in a, in a 16 team. It shouldn't be going to stink somewhere.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Don't take a quarterback high in a 16 team league. This is the year you wait on quarterback. Yeah, absolutely. All right, from Jake. 16-team league. Last one here is from Jake. New to Dynasty. Would love your thoughts on the trade offer I received.
Starting point is 00:54:52 I would give up Alvin Kamara and Vance McDonald. I would get... I would get... Don't even know what you need to do on the other side. Todd Gurley, Tyler Boyd, a 2023rd and a 2021 second round pick. So sorry, I'll say it again. You give up Camara and Vance McDonald, you get Todd Gurley, Tyler Boyd, a third round pick next year and a second round pick in 2021.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I think I'd rather have Camara. Yeah, it's not that far off, but I would not do it. Okay, good show. Heath, thank you for coming out. I'm not going to play the music. I'm not going to kill it. I'm not going to kill it. No, we don't need to do it. Okay. Good show. Heath, thank you for coming. I'm not going to play the music. I'm not going to kill it. I'm not going to kill it. No, we don't need to play it too much.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I will talk to you on Friday or probably sometime tomorrow for some reason. All right. For Dave, for Jamie, for Heath, thank you all so much for listening. I'm Adam Azer. This is Fantasy Football Today. We'll be back tomorrow.
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