Fantasy Football Today - 08/01: Breakout WRs; Baldwin News; 0.5 PPR Thoughts (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 1, 2018

Are we seeing the decline of the WR in the NFL (1:15)? We've got some stats that will make you wonder. We also give our initial reaction to the Doug Baldwin injury (7:32) before revisiting later in the show as we find out the severity (49:30) ... Sleeper WRs (11:46) and breakout WRs (18:00) from Dave and Jamey. We're looking at a couple of second-year WRs who had quiet rookie seasons but have great opportunities. We're also looking at a couple of guys on elite offenses who are being drafted too late ... Covering some NFL news items (25:00) before recapping our 12-team, 0.5 PPR draft (29:05)! Did it feel more like non-PPR or full PPR? Did Adam reach for LeSean McCoy? Did Dave draft enough WRs? And which pick does Jamey think he might regret? ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Today on the show, we are going to tell you if two top ten picks from the 2017 NFL Draft can bounce back after a very quiet rookie season. We are now transitioning from running back week to wide receiver week. And today, Dave and Jamie give you sleeper and breakout wide receivers. We're also reviewing our half PPR mock draft. Guys, the best format in fantasy football, hands down. And one of the best chat conversations we've had in a long time. It was pretty good. It was pretty

spirited in there, wasn't it? Yeah. You could see portions of it in the write-up that I did about the draft. Dave has a line in there. Adam has a lot of lines in there. Will has a lot of lines in there. Yeah a lot of lines in there yeah it's basically

will me and will going back and forth about something and it was interesting so so check it out um would you guys like to start the show with some wide receiver trivia sure okay how many wide receivers had double digit touchdown catches 2017, and can you name them? None. Yeah. Was there even one? There were two. Double-digit touchdown catches. DeAndre Hopkins.

Yeah, he had 13. Same first initial. Devontae Adams? Devontae Adams. Devontae Adams definitely did. Check out this trend. Wide receivers, not including tight ends, just wide receivers with double-digit touchdown catches last four years.

11, 10, 5, 2. Is this a fluke or is this something? No. Is this a trend? No. It's part of a much larger, more disturbing trend at wide receiver. Not to put a dark cloud over this podcast. What's the trend?

Last year, wide receivers in total caught 5,825 passes. It's the lowest since 2011. Collectively, they also scored 437 touchdowns. That's the lowest since 2009. They are not getting as much work as they used to because running backs are taking a bigger workload as are tight ends. And as teams learn to spread the ball around as part of the spread formation, receivers aren't getting the same cut as they used to.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the return of Aaron Rodgers and Andrew Luck will help that. Just going out there on a limb. Well, that's a good point. That helps in one and a half places because Adams was one of the guys with double-digit touchdowns last year. Yeah, but usually Rodgers gets two guys to perform at a high level. All right, so that could add two more wide receivers to the fantasy mix.

I'll say four more. In 2016, there were 6,590 catches. Plus the full season of Garoppolo, plus Mahomes, plus... Well, there will be injuries, though. There's a 700-plus catch decline among wide receivers from 2016 to 2017. And there's this. In 2017, NFL teams averaged 34.2 pass attempts per game, the lowest since 2011,

the fewest passing yards per game since 2010, the most rushing attempts per game, 26.9 since 2013. So you don't know if it's kind of like a one-year trend or if this is something we should draft on. Maybe it's kind of like a one-year trend or if this is something we should draft on. Maybe it's more of a running league. Maybe that makes running back deeper. Remember months ago, we kind of talked about how running back felt a little deeper

than wide receiver. Do you feel that way still? It is at the top. I think once you get to the... You talked about this yesterday or earlier this week about the mid-round running backs. I think that's kind of where the receivers take hold a little bit more. The mid-round receivers are a little bit better.

Yeah. But the top of the running back group compared to the top of the wide receiver group is just deeper, especially now with this Baldwin injury. If he's not part of the mix, you're really looking at, in my opinion at best, 10 number one type wide receivers. And the way I really interpret this whole discussion about perhaps the decline in the passing game overall, the decline of the role of the wide receiver, is that it does make the elite wide receivers feel even more valuable to me. Yeah, sure. I mean, the thing is, again, as we talked about yesterday, you can look at Julio Jones and his struggles last year. You can look at what happens with quarterbacks going down,

like what happened to T.Y. Hilton and, you know, what happens if Roethlisberger is a serious injury, et cetera, et cetera. But if those guys produce like they're capable of doing, which they have been more times than not, the guys that are ranked up there, at least the ones that have done it more times than just once, you know what they're going to give you. And they're less likely to be impacted by their own injuries because they typically don't get hurt like running backs tend to. All right, guys. So we have a wide receiver preview probably in a couple weeks. I think

next week we'll do quarterbacks and tight ends. And then we'll get to running backs and wide receivers, which is always a two-part position preview. But we'll give some sleepers and breakouts today, some busts tomorrow. Coming up later this week, there is an auction tomorrow. And we'll talk about it on Friday. So get excited for the auction episode. Somebody emailed me, guys, and said we should really talk about $200 budgets and not $100 budgets. I guess we could do both. Does it make that big of a difference?

He claimed it did, and I sort of see the point. I think it makes a difference when you're talking about the players that go toward the end of the auction, the $1, $2, $3 guys. Yeah, I think you can mostly multiply by two and get, for most guys, a equivalent value. For the top 100 players? Would you say for the top 100 players you could do that? It feels about right. Right. And also, yeah, so we'll talk about the auction on Friday. We'll try to get some voicemails, 954-689-3199.

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That's our slogan. Do it. And when we talk about the half PPR draft a little bit later, remember Dave said he was going to take Antonio Brown. Well, he didn't. Fifth overall. Find out why. Only three wide receivers were taken in the first round,

and the Jarek McKinnon hype is getting out of control right now. Yes. Find out where McKinnon is. He made me start to not like him. Oh, man, what a bummer. What a bummer. Well, also a bummer. Let's talk about the big news.

Doug Baldwin out a couple weeks, a few weeks with knee soreness. Plenty of time to get ready for the season opener. What is the impact right now of this Doug Baldwin knee soreness? It's not a huge impact yet, but if you're drafting within the next two weeks, you're going to have to – this is going to weigh on your mind. It's going to make you want to wait on Doug Baldwin until like the end of round three, early round four. I don't think you have to wait that long.

I think that you can give him the veteran's benefit of the doubt. He knows the offense. He knows his role. All that stuff isn't changing. He should be able to build chemistry chemistry with russell wilson pretty quickly i i think he's still safe to draft as one of those top 15 fantasy wide receivers probably closer to 12 than 15 uh but that's what i'm doing i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now i haven't moved him in my rankings yet the one thing that makes me nervous is p is Pete Carroll is the most optimistic human being alive.

And so if he says a few weeks, that could be months. Because just about how he usually downplays everything or upgrades everything in a positive way. So the fact that he's saying it's a few weeks. Look, bad knees that take time to rest sometimes end up resulting in surgery. That's never a good situation. So just keep an eye on it. For the people that are drafting now, I think you just take a cautious approach. You maybe don't take them at the end of round two or beginning of round three.

Just see how far he falls to you. If you're drafting come end of August, beginning of September, we should have an idea of what his status is. But if there's no Baldwin for any stretch of time, there should be no Russell Wilson as a number one fantasy quarterback because the receiving core there behind that offensive line is just not going to be good. When you say he's a number one, meaning he doesn't make your top 12 without Doug Baldwin? No, he won't.

Wow. Massive decline. Let me ask you one more thing. You obviously read the Pete Carroll quotes about Doug Baldwin. Did you get the impression that he came to training camp with the knee and yeah i said yeah yeah then why didn't they put him on the pup list i'm sure they were hoping that just its general soreness and that he was fine who knows i mean it's yeah i hope they don't think it's too serious yeah it's it's one of those

things you know the next thing that could be we we hear on a negative sense is short-term IR. Well, for Baldwin, obviously we're a long way before he's on short-term IR, but I don't like the fact that he came to camp sore and it's still sore. It wasn't just like, oh, he hurt his knee in practice. We're giving him a week or two off. It's been a lingering thing. But I think when you look at where he's being drafted, in the Mike Evans, T.Y. Hilton, and for a lot of people, not for Jamie, Tyreek Hill range, I think fantasy owners are going to be able to pivot to those guys, Evans, Hilton, and Hill.

When you start to get to Demarius Thomas, Amari Cooper, Larry Fitzgerald, maybe people see that as a new tier and wouldn't be willing to put Baldwin behind those guys. Maybe, you know what I'm saying? Maybe he's easy to slop behind Evans, Hilton, Hill for a lot of people. But I don't think at this point you can take Demarius Thomas over Doug Baldwin. I mean, that's the next guy I have ranked behind him. So it'll get there for me. But not yet.

I'm sorry? Not yet. Not yet. get there for me um but not yet i'm sorry not yet not yet but i think for the people you know and again tying in the drop off at receiver at least what feels like the drop off at receiver if you're picking in one of those first four picks overall and you're taking one of those running backs when you get to round two assuming that the evans hilton group is gone, and you were hoping that you could take maybe Baldwin and a tight end, or maybe Baldwin and another running back,

it's going to be tough to sort of justify taking Demaryius Thomas or Mark Cooper or Tyree Kill or any of these other guys in the end of round two, early part of round three, unless you're sold on them. And you may just have to pivot and just go heavy running back. guys in the early end of round two, early part of round three, unless you're sold on them. And you may just have to pivot and just go heavy running back. I think if you have the third or fourth pick, I feel confident that Evans or Hilton will be there in round two. Maybe.

But if not, I guess you're looking at Fournette falling, just based on what the ADP is. Yeah. Or Gronk or something. Ooh, that'd be nice. All right. So that's our Doug Baldwin analysis. Let's get to some sleeper wide receivers. Jamie, or Gronk or something. Ooh, that'd be nice. All right, so that's our Doug Baldwin analysis. Let's get to some sleeper-wide receivers. Jamie, let's start with you.

So the first of two top 10 picks of the 2017 NFL draft that we'll be talking about. You have Mike Williams of the Chargers as a sleeper going into his second year. Starting to get more excited about him. You know, I think you look clearly the void without Hunter Henry there, what the expectation was for Mike Williams last year, the fact that he's healthy. I think just looking at

what the red zone opportunities are there for Williams now, we'll see if they do sign Antonio Gates, but I think you'll see Phillip Rivers lean on him quite a bit, and his ADP right now is just amazing. It's going to rise. There was already a video of Rivers throwing a nice deep ball to Mike Williams that the Chargers tweeted out, and if more and more things like that continue to happen, I think Williams' ADP is just going to skyrocket. It might help if the Chargers' secondary continues to fall apart too. It might mean that the Chargers have to throw a little bit.

No, I'm just saying, I don't care what he does in practice, who he scores against in practice, but if the Chargers are giving up points through the air, Phillip Rivers is going to grow a little bit. No, I'm just saying, I don't care what he does in practice, who he scores against in practice, but if the Chargers are giving up points through the air, Phillip Rivers is going to have to respond. Should mean more pass attempts, more targets. You get where I'm coming from. Now, why Mike Williams and not Tyrell Williams? I think Tyrell Williams is kind of dependent on everybody not being there, as we saw.

I mean, last year Keenan Allen comes back, and Tyrell Williams' targets get just chopped in half. So investment, I would imagine there's going to be a little bit more of a priority to get Mike Williams involved. Tyrell Williams was very good two seasons ago, but his pedigree is not exactly the same as what Mike Williams is. And so I just think red zone opportunities will be better for Mike Williams. Catches may be the same. Production may be the same.

But I think the touchdowns, excuse me, Mike Williams. Catches may be the same. Production may be the same. But I think the touchdowns, excuse me, production between the 20s may be the same. But I think the touchdowns will favor Mike Williams. I just think he's a better player. Yeah, he's 6'4". You know, he's a big target. He'll help fill that Hunter Henry void. Last year, Hunter Henry and Gates combined for 19 targets inside the 10-yard line. The year before, they had 15 targets inside the 10-yard line and 15 touchdowns.

So we know this team needs to replace those touchdowns. Maybe Gates comes back, but still, Hunter Henry void is a significant thing. Dave, your sleeper is still a pretty young wide receiver, and it's Nelson Aguilar of the Philadelphia Eagles. Do you know how many touchdowns he scored last year? I know Eagles fans are going to know. He scored eight. He scored eight touchdowns. I think that gets lost. And he had a 65% catch rate, had only 95 targets, turned that into almost 800 yards. I think his

role could expand this year. He's looking great at camp. I've read all the reports. Alshon Jeffrey on the pup list. I think Philadelphia is going to continue to be a high-volume passing team. And you can get them late. You can get them at least 100th overall. PPR, non-PPR, great guy to just have on your bench to begin the season. He finishes a top 24 wideout last year. I think there's a chance he could do it again this year.

I don't have it ranked. He's not in my top 24 among receivers. But I think he's got some nice upside. I don't think he's got 1,000 yards in him, but I think he can be a nice quality guy to have on your roster. All right, so Aguilar for Dave. Who would you guys rather have,

Aguilar or Mike Williams? I'm drafting Aguilar ahead of Mike Williams right now. Right now, Aguilar, but it's close. If Mike Williams stays healthy through the preseason, it will be easy for me to move Williams ahead of him. Well, Aguilar is going right behind DJ Moore and Devontae Parker. They're all going about 120th overall, end of round 10 in a 12-team league. That's in CBS ADP.

DJ Moore, Devontae Parker, Nelson Aguilar. Your thoughts on that trio? I think those are good bench guys. I think that's exactly... Those are guys that are going to go right around pick 100 overall. I would take Parker over him unless Jeffrey's hurt. If Jeffrey's on the pop list to open the season,

then I will take Aguilar. I forgot to ask a question that must be asked. If Doug Baldwin were to miss significant time, which Seahawks wide receiver... I mean, it might be an obvious answer, but who in the Seahawks passing game? Tyler Lockett. Tyler Lockett is probably going to be the first one. Jerron Brown could be another one.

I think they've liked what he's done. There have been a couple of unheralded guys that have been making plays for them. And we'll see if Marshall can get healthy. Yeah, he's barely practiced. Yeah. I wonder if they call Dez Are they desperate enough And then Dez and Brandon Marshall In the same locker room I would imagine that's the transaction

They get rid of Marshall for Dez Well I'd love to see that I'd love to see Dez there anyway Whether Baldwin's healthy or not I think he would help that offense quite a bit. You know what, Dave? I'm clearly doing a Seat Geek read here. You couldn't tell.

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That is promo code FFT for $20 off your first SeatGeek purchase. SeatGeek, life's an event, and we have the tickets. Breakout wide receivers. Buying a ticket to see Corey Davis. Dave, the fifth pick in the draft in 2017 in the NFL draft. Did not have much of a rookie year. Caught two touchdowns in the playoffs against the Patriots. Is he going to carry that momentum into 2018 well the mere fact that he's healthy and practicing now should help

bring optimism up to another level on davis especially with richard matthews on the pup list for tennessee they need him desperately to come through and and i i'm just i continue to get the feeling that the tennessee offense is going to be fun to watch. First of all, it's going to be better than what it was last year when it wasn't that much fun to watch with Mike Malarkey calling the shots. Now it's Matt LaFleur. Now it's West Coast offense. It's a lot of movement in the pocket for Mariota, which is something I think he can do. It's a good offensive line protecting him and a lot of downfield throws. And I think that Corey Davis is just worth taking the chance on as one of those wide receivers.

We've already identified that receivers in general, it's hard to find those double-digit touchdown, high target, wide outs. I think Corey Davis has a chance to be one of those guys. I think he's got that kind of upside. Double-digit touchdown.. I guess I'm wondering, are they going to throw enough? Marcus Mariota has not even thrown for 3,500 yards in a season. Are things going to change? Because in his three years, the Titans have ranked 21st, 28th, and 28th in pass attempts. LeFleur comes over from the Rams. They rank 24th in pass attempts.

Now, look, Corey Davis can certainly be a breakout without getting double-digit touchdowns. Like I said, only two did it last year, only two receivers. But I guess I just want to know what you think the realistic upside is for Corey Davis. Yeah, okay. So you're not buying double-digit touchdowns. Would you buy 1,200 yards, or is that too hard to believe because you haven't seen Marcus Mariota throw it. Tennessee hasn't had a 1,000-yard wide receiver in forever. Right.

I think, Dave, that I get it with Davis, but it's kind of like Joe Mixon where basically the only reason people are high on these guys is pedigree. We've talked about Mixon. It's opportunity too. Yeah, yeah, sure. But I don't think either of them really showed enough that if they didn't have a high pedigree, if Mixon hadn't been a second round pick who fell because of off-field issues, if Corey Davis hadn't been the

fifth pick overall in the draft, we wouldn't be talking about Corey Davis as a breakout. But we should because pedigree matters. You're right in that regard. But i think it's also just if this was a more high volume offense cory davis his upside would be i think even more like i think you have to view him more as a number three fantasy receiver going into the season but he definitely has top 24 potential because he should lead them in targets especially if if Richard Matthews isn't right. And you look at the guys that he's competing with, assuming Matthews is healthy. Delaney Walker, I mean, Adam, you've talked about this. He's not necessarily the most dynamic playmaker.

He's a good tight end. He's just not a great tight end like, you know, in the upper echelon guys. And Matthews has been serviceable, but he's not a star. Davis has star potential. And so you saw it in that playoff game and you know i talked to mariotta at the super bowl and he said you know like most of us he hopes that's the jumping off point for him that he finally clicked it took the 18th game of the season for them for that to happen and you know that's something that he can hopefully build on if he he stays healthy, he should be 120-plus targets. I don't know if he's going to be 140 to 180-type guy. He's not going to be Mike Evans two years ago,

but he could certainly be in that 120 to 140 range, which based on what his skill set should be and what Mariota's skill set should be, I think there's a lot to like about i do too i yeah i didn't mean to come off so negative i'm just saying he didn't he had a terrible rookie season you know he was banged up and he was part of a crummy offense i i really think you can't judge anybody in tennessee's offense and at least the passing game based on what we've seen the last two years yeah okay okay, totally makes sense.

I did not mean to come off negative there on Corey Davis. Now, we saw him go in the fourth round in one of our drafts that we thought that was way too early. He's going 83rd overall in CBS ADP, Corey Davis. I think that's a little too late, to be honest with you. I agree. Yep. Me too.

All right. Jamie's breakout is Chris Hogan. Let's see where Hogan's going. Chris Hogan is going, oh, 85th. He's going after Corey Davis. How about that? Yeah, and I don't know at what point you're going to go through all the news, but Jordan Matthews was released from the Patriots today,

suffered a hamstring injury that apparently has been bothering him, and they decided instead of putting him on injured reserve, they decided to just release him. They are talking to Eric Decker. They have Kenny Britt. They have Coro Patterson. But no Brandon Cooks, no Danny Amendola, no Doolin Edelman for four games. And so Hogan showed last year, unfortunately he's had some injuries,

but he was on pace for a 10-touchdown season. He would have had injuries his first year with New England two years ago. If you factor in the playoffs, he had 1,000 yards, I believe. He had the 100-yard game and a touchdown in the Super Bowl when Brady threw for 500 yards. Obviously, that came with Cooks not playing because of the concussion he suffered in the Super Bowl. But I just think opportunity.

He's their best outside receiver, and he should be in that 120 target range if he stays healthy. I think he's got top 20 potential so um edelman once he returns we'll clearly put a little bit of a damper on that but i i think you could see hogan getting off to a great start through those first four weeks and you know if brady's arm holds up which i don't think most of us expect that to happen even in his early 40s he'll hit hogan with some downfield shots and he'll get a lot of one-on-one coverage i just think there's a lot to like about him. The thing to love the most about Hogan is what he can do in the red zone.

And that's something that will last beyond the first four weeks of the season. The thing to hate about Chris Hogan is that he's never pieced together a big season. It's been injuries or just being a role player that has kept him from being a breakout guy. And it's weird to talk about what year is he? Is he a sixth-year player at this point? Not sure. Fifth or sixth, it feels like. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry.

But it's rare to find those guys that break out this late. But it is a very good opportunity for him. So who do you prefer, Corey Davis or Chris Hogan? Davis for me. Davis has a higher ceiling if things go right. Chris Hogan has Tom Brady, so I'll take Hogan. Davis for me. Davis has a higher ceiling if things go right. Chris Hogan has Tom Brady, so I'll take Hogan. All right. They're going very similarly in drafts, so around 80th overall,

which might be a little late for Corey Davis and Chris Hogan. Yeah, let's get to those news and notes now, actually. We have some wide receiver news. The Saints signed Michael Floyd and Brandon Tate, a couple of wide receivers, and rookie wide receiver Traquan Smith has had a good camp. Does any of this matter to you for the Saints? Well, Traquan matters because he's one of those fast receivers that could play a role and help Drew Brees out quite a bit.

You put him on the field with Ted Ginn and Michael Thomas, it's going to be hard on defenses to figure out how to stop that. Or maybe throw in Alvin Kamara. We're not drafting Traquan Smith yet. Oh, you are in rookie-only drafts. That's the European Dynasty League. Yeah, I meant seasonal. Alvin Kamara could return

kickoffs later in the season. As Jamie mentioned, the Patriots have released Jordan Matthews. They worked out Eric Decker. In fact, I was about to drop Eric Decker in my Dynasty League today because we're doing our free agent draft. And then with that news, I was like, maybe he ends up on the Patriots. I'll keep him on my team.

Once upon a time, Eric Decker and Josh McDaniels were partners in crime in Denver. That's right. And that worked out really well for Decker. Who was his quarterback again? Tebow. No, it was Payton, right? Was it also Tebow? McDaniels never played with him.

McDaniels and Payton weren't there together. No, it was Tebow. It was Tebow? A little bit of... What's his name? Kyle Orton. Oh, how about that? Washington wide receiver Josh Doxson hurt his shoulder What's his name? Kyle Orton. Oh, how about that? Back beard. Washington wide receiver Josh Doxson hurt his shoulder,

and we will get an update on Thursday. Seahawks reporter Brady Henderson for ESPN considers Chris Carson the favorite to be the starting running back in week one. I will tell you where the two Seahawks running backs were drafted in our half PPR draft in just a moment. Also, Seahawks news, defensive end Deion Jordan, he has a stress issue. He could miss some time. Earl Thomas not getting any closer to reporting for the Seahawks.

In fact, he might get traded to the Cowboys. Is this going to be a bad defense, the Seahawks defense? Yes. I think they're going to have a decent pass rush and a good run defense, but I think they'll get gashed by the pass. Green Bay linebacker Jake Ryan tore his ACL. The Chargers got another injury at corner with Trevor Williams spraining his ankle. It doesn't seem like it's so serious, but it's a sprained ankle,

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Sure. All right, good. $100 ahead. I'm that confident. $200 ahead. I'm spending a lot of money on diapers lately, Jamie. We're going to have to make it $100. Yeah, anyway, read the recap of it.

It's cool stuff. What were your takeaways, Jamie? What did you notice about this half PPR draft? Well, I think you mentioned it. Jarek McKinnon going as the 13th overall player. I hate it. I guess in one regard I like it because it allowed me to get Leonard Fournette toward the middle of round two.

It feels like most half PPR drafts should go. It was a mix of still leaning running back early and you know the second round was was clearly dominated by receivers um yeah it it's it's a very good draft if you're in this type of format to follow how about 11 non-running backs going in the first two rounds and uh two of them were tight ends so nine wide receivers in the first two rounds so you said it jamie lots of running backs even in a half ppr format expect it expect to see something like that on draft day in your leagues i felt like maybe after that it felt more like a ppr draft to me specifically with guys like uh Johnson, Chris Thompson, Gio Bernard.

I don't know if those guys have value in non-PPR leagues as mid-round picks. James White was the first pick of round seven. Duke Johnson, mid-round seven. Chris Thompson, last pick of round seven. Tariq Cohen, round eight. Giovanni Bernard, first pick of round nine. That felt more PPR-y to me than non-PPR. But again, you think that those guys are going to be...

Look, James White's got a great opportunity with this receiving core being a little depleted to start the season. So if you're of that camp that you think he's going to be de facto slot guy... I think it could end up being that way. Yeah. Now that Matthews is out, your boy Baxter Barrios gets a boost if they don't sign Decker. So they're going to have to mix and match and be creative.

We know that they will be, but White's certainly somebody that Tom Brady relies on quite a bit. Dave, what were your takeaways from the half PPR draft? Just more of the same. Certainly the running back heavy start stood out to me. The quarterback depth and just the fact that you could get unreal steals later on, also very eye-popping. I thought I got a great deal getting Deshaun Watson in round six.

I was doing jumping jacks. I was so excited. And then I saw so many other quarterbacks get taken long after that, and I kind of had quarterback envy. Cam Newton in round eight. Andrew Luck in round nine. Drew Brees in round nine. Carson Wentz in round nine.

Yeah, I know. I felt the same way. It made me feel a little sad. And I loved Deshaun Watson this year. I took Aaron Rodgers in round four. And Jamie took Tom Brady, right? Two rounds later. And I was like, man, I may have reached for Aaron Rodgers in round four. And Jamie took Tom Brady, right? Round six. Two rounds later.

And I was like, man, I may have reached for Aaron Rodgers. But you never know how the draft's going to go. I get to the point with Aaron Rodgers where I say, if I don't love anybody on the board, I'm taking Aaron Rodgers right now. I was two picks after you, and that wasn't the first guy that I looked at. Rodgers? Yeah. I mean, it's hard to argue that, especially, again, our drafts are going to be a little bit different than, you know, public drafts or, you know, most regular drafts.

But Rodgers' ADP is the end of round two. So to get him two rounds later, that's a great pick by you. Yeah, what did I take? 40th overall. And guys still on the board, Allen Robinson, Kenyon Drake, Golden Tate, Darius Geis, et cetera, Juju Smith-Schuster. I think it actually went Rodgers, Robinson, Drake. Drake, Golden Tate, Darius Geis, et cetera, Juju Smith-Schuster. I think it actually went Rodgers, Robinson, Drake.

I took Drake, so I know that. Yeah, I was reading straight from the draft results. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, no, that's cool. I didn't make that clear. So I took Rodgers 40th, and then two picks later, Jamie took Kenyon Drake. Now, I know this isn't really specific to half PPR or anything, but with the report from your source that Drake is not going to get the feature work necessarily. They're going to work Frank Gore in there.

Why did you take Drake over Darius Geis? I still think Drake's going to get enough work. And the one thing that was told to me is that he's going to be the one in passing down situations. So, again, when you start to skew toward any PPR format, he's still the number two guy, even if he's not the quote-unquote starter. And so while he's going to share work,

he's still going to be, I think, 15 to 20 touches, just based on his role in the passing game. Why would the Dolphins take him off the field when he's easily their best... You shouldn't have passing game. Why would the Dolphins take him off the field when he's easily their best? You shouldn't have stopped as why would the Dolphins. That's just kind of what they do. He was such a playmaker for them last year. And to replace him with Frank Gore or to entrust Ryan Tannehill with the ball

just really speaks to how tone deaf that offense is right now. If you're in the Kenyon Drake camp, which I think a lot of fantasy owners are, the way he finished last year, you hope it goes the way it did for the Dolphins and their backfield two seasons ago. I think it was two seasons ago. When J.H.I.E. was left home,

when they went to Seattle, Arian Foster was on the team. Foster played the first, I think, three games. Got hurt again. Now Frank Gore's got a better track record of staying healthy, but he's 180 years old. And if, in fact, he can't handle being not the featured guy, because that's not going to be the case,

but if he can't handle being the 50-50 guy, can't handle sharing the workload, can't handle it to the level of being, not necessarily handle it, but being successful in it, they have no choice but to give Drake more work. So he's going to get a good amount of touches. Don't make this out to be he's going to the bench or not going to touch the ball.

But if it's 20 carries for the game, their ideal situation is probably 9-9-2 for the two main guys, and then maybe Kalen Balazs or somebody else getting two carries. And then my guess would be 5- to eight catches for Kenyon Drake. Now, he's not going to catch them all, but that would be his targets. Nine carries a game, that's what you're saying?

I'm just saying, you know, if it's 30 carries a game, you know, it's 14-14 and four, you know, whatever the case, however the math comes out. Yeah. Okay, so kudos to Dave and Jamie for being the fastest drafters in yesterday's draft. Jamie made his 15 picks in 3 minutes and 57 seconds. Dave in 4 minutes and 57 seconds. Good job, guys. Let's just take a look at round one.

You were probably up there until you got screwed at the end. Yeah, it's true. I auto-picked the kicker. I don't know why I couldn't select my kicker. Actually, it was my DST as my last pick. Yeah, that took me a minute and 32 seconds. At that point, I was still six minutes and 20 seconds. I was pretty slow.

So round one, you know, Dave had the fifth pick, and I said, what are you going to do? And he said, oh, I'm going to go out on a limb and take Antonio Brown. We had a nice little laugh about it. But Antonio Brown went fourth, and Dave took Ezekiel Elliott. So it was Gurley, Le'Veon Bell, David Johnson, Antonio Brown, and Ezekiel Elliott. Who do you like third overall, guys, in half PPR, David Johnson or Ezekiel Elliott? Johnson. Still Elliott.

Okay. So nothing really too surprising. Gurley Bell, David Johnson, Antonio Brown, Ezekiel Elliott, DeAndre Hopkins to Jamie, Odell Beckham. Then I took Kareem Hunt, and that's when the Dalvin Cook discussion started because I had an opportunity to take Cook eighth, and I just said to myself, look, I really like Dalvin Cook, but I really like Kareem Hunt too, and he's healthy. He's not coming off a torn ACL. I'm not worried about the workload.

He's in a great offense, great system, helps running backs. He's going to catch more passes than Cook, I think. Why not take Kareem Hunt? So eighth overall. That was followed by Alvin Kamara, Saquon Barkley, Melvin Gordon, and Dalvin Cook. It's a pretty normal first round, right? I would have anticipated a couple more receivers in the first round. Yeah.

Okay. Well, then it was Jarek McKinnon at 13, which was cray-cray. I would have anticipated a couple more receivers in the first round. Yeah. Okay. Well, then it was Jarek McKinnon at 13, which was cray-cray. Keenan Allen, Julio Jones, A.J. Green, Michael Thomas. There's your run on receivers. Keenan Allen, Julio Jones, A.J. Green, Michael Thomas. And then, Jamie, after Rob Gronkowski went, you take Leonard Fournette, which really looks like a great pick in the middle of the second round.

I felt as if, and when we talk about our team, but I felt like I just got lucky in essence with my first seven picks, if you want to go that far, but certainly my first six picks. And that was the start of it, was Fournette in round two. Okay, so Jamie's picks were DeAndre Hopkins, Leonard Fournette, Zach Ertz, Kenyon Drake, Mark Ingram, Tom Brady. Sorry, definitely not Marshall Lynch. Tom Brady. And then round seven was Marlon Mack.

So you feel pretty good. Very good. I mean, I have, when everybody's there, now obviously Ingram's out for the first four games, but even take him out of it, potentially the best quarterback, top three for sure, top three tight end, top two wide receiver, top, however you want to call it But top 8 running back And then

I still think Drake is a top 20 running back And I think Mark Ingram will be once he's on the field Dave, who's your tight end? Evan Ingram So we all Somewhat prioritized Quarterback and tight end I have Rodgers and Burton

Which I was very happy to get And Dave has Watson and Ingram And Jamie has Brady and Ertz tight end. I have Rodgers and Burton, which I was very happy to get. And Dave has Watson and Ingram, and Jamie has Brady and Ertz. And you know what I was kind of feeling after this draft? I kind of like a later pick. Eight overall. I don't know if we

consider that late. It's mid to late. I really like it. Because Kareem Hunt and Michael Thomas, I was thrilled to start that way. And that kind of freed me up to take Aaron Rodgers in round four. I feel like I'm less likely to take Aaron Rodgers if I don't feel super confident in my RB1 and wide receiver one. But I felt good about them. And then I took McCoy in round three, and I felt good about that.

I know Davey has a bust. I get that. But I thought it was good value for McCoy. I think he's going to catch a ton of passes if he's not suspended. I felt good about the start. When I feel good about those running backs and wide receivers, that's when I'm more likely to take Aaron Rodgers. I think I'm going to feel better about

my first three picks, honestly, if I have a later pick in the draft. How are you guys feeling about that? Yeah. I'm sure there could be, you know, let's say you took Jordan Howard instead of McCoy. Then you could have had Allen Robinson instead of Rodgers in round four. Yeah, I want that. And had the entire Bears with Trey Burton.

Right, it's too risky for me. No, I get that. But still, if you had taken Howard instead of McCoy, I like it better, but I get what you're going for. And it could be a situation that you could have gone with, because I think he went a little bit too soon, but you could have gone with Kareem Hunt and Dalvin Cook. He could have made it back to you there. Yeah.

I had a feeling you guys weren't going to like McCoy Where I took him 8th pick of round 3 So that's 31st overall I worry that he'll get taken Before then in too many drafts I think that's about the spot he'll end up going Until we get word of what his situation is And I don't think that

I would have taken him there In non-PPR But 59 catches last year. It's a pretty big deal to me, and I think I like him there in half PPR and full PPR. All right, so tell me about your teams, guys, and what you saw unfold and what you liked, what you didn't like. Dave, take it away. Well, after getting that stud running back first, I was hoping to get a good receiver in round two. I was hoping Leonard Fournette would make it back to me in round two.

Jamie swiped him right in front of me, but Devonta Adams was still there. I've been saying this all along. Most people will start their drafts with one running back and one wide receiver. What I like about that is it takes the pressure off of trying to fill one of those other positions if you don't take one of each. And so in round three, the best available player on my board was Tyreek Hill. I took him. And then round four was a little bit tricky for me.

There were two players that I really wanted to get a look at. I know one of them was – You took Golden Tate. One of them was Golden Tate. One of them was Golden Tate. One of them was Ronald Jones, and I thought that Ronald Jones would fall to me in five. So this being PPR, I think Tate's value is much better, and I took him then.

I do have a little bit of remorse over not taking Darius Geis because then I thought I could have taken Geis and Jones, and that would have been a nice running back trio. But again, catches matter, and I think that that gives Tate an edge. And sure enough, Jones made it back to me in round five. So Golden Tate, you took him about 44th overall? Right. So I went three receivers after Ezekiel Elliott,

and those are the only three receivers I drafted. And Golden Tate has 90 catches in four straight seasons. So I went three receivers after Ezekiel Elliott, and those are the only three receivers I drafted. And Golden Tate has 90 catches in four straight seasons. But is that a good spot for him in half PPR? Because guys like Tate, Edelman, the ones that have the big boost in PPR, I do find it a little difficult to assert their value in half PPR. That's true, but I didn't want to be left with weak receivers. I had a very good feeling that I could get my guy in round

five. That's really what it came down to. Okay. What's the rest of your squad looking like? The rest of the squad is Deshaun Watson at quarterback. He was my round six pick. Zeke and Ronald Jones are my top running backs. My three receivers are Devonta Adams,

Tyree Kill, and Golden Tate. Evan Ingram in round seven. I got Chris Carson in round eight. At the time, he was the only name on the board that I really liked. I just went with it. Now I'm thinking,

am I comfortable taking Carson in round eight in every draft? I think the answer is yeah. With the headlines that are coming out in Seattle, the fact that he looks strong and he's running with the first team offense, I don't care about Pete Carroll talking him up. I just want to know, is it legitimate that he's in this role or is this all being done to push Rashad Penny? And it could be a little bit of both. And if I'm going to get one, I'd like to have the other,

but I'm not drafting Penny. Penny went in round four, I think, in our half PPR. 50th overall, second pick of round five. Okay, so just after round four. Thank you, Adam. Yeah. I didn't have a problem with it. I like Carson.

I liked him last year, and I'll take the chance on him in round eight. The rest of my bench is Ty Montgomery, Corey Clement, Peyton Barber, Jordan Wilkins, and the very last pick of the draft, Tyler Eifert. Hey, there you go. He's healthy. He's back at camp. So you only have three wide receivers. I don't know how long that will last.

It might only be like two more weeks. But hopefully he survives and potentially could be like a flex for me. Or if ever an Ingram gets hurt, Tyler Ifer could fill in week one, see what happens. You have three wide receivers on your team. Yeah, that's it. That's what you do. Dave loads up on running backs for his bench. I can find a receiver off waivers after the year starts.

All right, Jamie, how did your, Dave had the fifth pick up by the way, and Jamie had the sixth pick. So Hopkins and Fournette, that's how you started. And how did your team unfold? What did you like? What did you didn't like? What didn't you like? The one thing that I may end up regretting was I like Marlon Mack in round seven. I love Marlon Mack in round seven because if he is the guy there for the Colts,

then he's got a round four or five type of value. I just may have regretted not taking a receiver there because I have to mix and match my second receiver. I have a lot of guys that I like, five as a matter of fact, and you can make an argument for almost all five of them being, if not the best receiver on their team, certainly 1A type situation. But after taking the seven guys that we already talked about, Hopkins, Fournette, Ertz, Drake, Brady, and Mack, and Ingram, excuse me.

I thought after I took Mack that I was going to have the shot to take, and I didn't want it to be Will Fuller because I didn't want to have my two starting receivers being Hopkins and Fuller, but I thought that I can get Kup or Crowder, and both those guys went before my pick. And Woods, I'm sorry, you took Robert Woods. So I just started going receiver heavy. So in round eight it was Robbie Anderson. Round nine it was Kenny Stills.

Round 10, it was Marquise Goodwin. Round 11, it was Michael Gallup. And that's my receiving core is Hopkins and those five guys. And so, again, Stills could be the best guy in Miami. Gallup could be the best guy for Dallas. Anderson should be the best guy for the Jets, assuming he doesn't get suspended. So there's plenty of potential there just to have to start one of those guys, if not two.

But I think, again, I like the star potential of this team and being able just to fill that one spot when everybody's ready. So let's say you had two wide receivers by the time Will Fuller came off the board, which was after. Like you could have taken Fuller instead of Marlon Mack in round seven. Yep. You had DeAndre Hopkins. Let's say you had taken a second wide receiver.

Let's say it had been Sammy Watkins or something. Well, it played out differently. Let's just say I did take Fuller instead of Mack, and I took – and Cooper Cup fell to me or Crowder. Okay, so my question is... Then I'm okay with it. How do you feel about having the two Texans guys? Because let's say something happens to DeAndre Hopkins,

all of a sudden, Will Fuller... Yeah, it's the Acer strategy. It is a little bit the Acer strategy. Sure. It's not bad, but I just... When I was looking at it and looking at the options I had, he wasn't going to be the first one, even though I may have him ranked ahead of a couple of the other guys.

Okay. And the team that I have that I'm so very proud of, Aaron Rodgers at quarterback, Trey Burton at tight end. I can't remember when I get him, like round seven, round eight or something? Round seven. Okay, so Rodgers, Burton. I'm just trying to pull up the whole team. I have Kareem Hunt, the Sean McCoy, and I have Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones

to be perhaps a flex or just depth. I have Michael Thomas, Chris Hogan, Cameron Meredith, Devontae Parker, Mike Williams, Robert Woods. This is a – I don't know how this happened. I ended up with a good team. And Spencer Ware to back up, Kareem Hunt. I love it. Yeah I ended up with a good team. And Spencer Ware to back up. Kareem Hunt. I love it.

It's a great team. Titans DST. They're at Miami in week one. Greg Zerline. Greg Zerline, I got the best kicker too? Not even fair. I got the best quarterback. The best kicker.

That's all you need in fantasy. There you go. Let's read some emails. Fantasy football at CBS.com. Oh, I forgot to say this. Okay, real quick. The Indianapolis running backs, Marlon Mack, round 7. Naeem Hines, round 10.

Jordan Wilkins, round 11. Mack, 7. Hines, 10. Wilkins, 11. Quick thought? I think it's good value for all three of them. Green Bay running backs. Jamal Williams, round 6.

Aaron Jones, round 10. I took both of them. Ty Montgomery to Dave. Three picks after Jones in round 10. So Williams, ten. I took both of them. Ty Montgomery to Dave, three picks after Jones in round ten. So Williams six, Jones in Montgomery ten. I think that's good value, and I really like the Williams-Jones combo that you took. Better than the Ty Montgomery pick that I had. Rashad Penny round five, 50th overall, Chris Carson round eight.

Wow, whoever took Carson in round eight, what a stinking genius he is. Yeah, good job. Hey, did you see the breaking news on Doug Baldwin? No. ESPN reports that Baldwin is expected to miss most, if not all, of the preseason. They are hoping he's ready for week one. Not good.

Oh, I need the Peter Griffin sound effect right now. Yeah, this... That is big news. I mean, I'm sorry that we're 50 minutes into the podcast. I hope people are still listening, but let's keep reacting to that. I'm singing him in my rankings as we speak. Yeah, it's somewhat similar, obviously different reasons, but Josh Gordon. It's like, how can you trust him? The upside, you know what it is. The potential, you know what it reasons, but Josh Gordon. How can you trust him?

The upside, you know what it is. The potential, you know what it is, but it's risky. And he may be riskier than Gordon right now. So it's hard to say you can trust Russell Wilson as a top five quarterback under the circumstances. They may end up being great values depending on where you get them. Yeah, like are you going to take Carson Wentz or Russell Wilson? Unless we get word that Wilson's – excuse me, that Baldwin's out,

I'll still take Wilson. It's close now. If Wilson's missing any time, look, they're both going to be down potentially their best receiver. So that's not good for either one of them. But I'd move Danjuluk into my top five. I'm going to put Luck ahead of him. Me too.

It's already happened for me. Doug Baldwin is entering his eighth season. He has missed two games in his career. So this is very unusual. And we don't have a, well, here's what Russell Wilson did without Doug Baldwin sample because it hasn't happened. But if he's without him, that's 20 touchdowns without the three guys last year that have left the team in Jimmy Graham, Paul Richardson, and Luke Wilson.

And Baldwin is essentially seven touchdowns, 900 yards on a year-to-year basis. Are you starting to get that sinking feeling about the Seahawks? Yeah, I'm glad you took Chris Carson in round eight. What an idiot. Who would take Chris Carson in round eight? Yeah, it's not good. It's not good. Russell Wilson had to score 37 of the team's 38 total touchdowns last year.

He's going to have to do that again. Wow. Wow. So this opens up Tyler Lockett. Ed Dixon? CJ Procise? He's hurt, too. Dixon is hurt, too.

Yeah. You have to look at Nick Vanette, I believe is how you say it. Yeah. Vanette. Go get De how you say it. Yeah. Vanette. Go get Dez. This is big news. This really is. I guess we can talk about it more tomorrow.

Let's finish off with some emails here from Chris in Lansing, Michigan. Do we give too much credit to rookie running backs in general, especially the ones who will be charged with blitz pickups for older or more injury-prone quarterbacks like Sonny Michel or the rookie running backs in Indianapolis? What do you think? My guess is they're not putting those guys on the field in obvious passing situations until they're 100% ready. I did see a video of Saquon Barkley having a great blitz pickup. I forget who was the rusher, but he did everything perfectly.

The thing is, Dave talked about this with the spread offenses. These guys come into the NFL a little bit better prepared in that role than in years past. So whether it's a guy coming in that's an expert, per se, or someone that's coming in that's 10% better than a guy five years ago just because he's done it more. Again, I don't think you're going to see Naheem Hines ask to third and long when there's obvious splitting situations for Andrew Luck and same thing with Sonny Michel.

But they'll still have to do it from time to time. I don't think we make too much of rookie running backs. The ones that are drafted high in the NFL draft, these teams want to use them. Last year was a really, really good year for rookie running backs, and that was with Dalvin Cook only playing four games. It would have been even better. So, you know, I think you have to be a little patient. Maybe you have to understand that for some rookie running backs,

it's not going to happen in week one. But eventually if they – I think Kerryon Johnson, Jamie and I certainly feel this way. I'm not sure where Dave is. I think that they're going to turn the keys over to him by week, I don't know, four or five. It may be sooner than that. I mean, right now he's still running with the second team, but I just don't look at LeGarrette Blount holding up for a full season.

And that's kind of what Philadelphia did last year where they made the trade to get J.H.I. I think you look at trends. Obviously, there are trends for a reason. The last three guys that were drafted first in their class have performed really well. Why? Because they had a great pedigree and great situations that they kind of stepped into. The Jaguars realized their offensive line wasn't good, so they drafted a left tackle last year. They added Leonard Fournette on top of that, clearly to make their run game better,

and both things scored a work hand-in-hand, and you saw what the results were. The Giants, realizing their offensive line is bad, well, they do. They made the two moves to get their left side better, and the run game should make that better. Like in Kerryon Johnson's scenario, I think it's the last four running backs that teams have traded up for in the first three rounds. All four of those guys have had success.

Kareem Hunt, I believe, was one. Camaro was one. Melvin Gordon was one. It took him obviously a year for it to happen, but still. And I forget the fourth guy. But... Oh, David Johnson, I think it was. It was very successful, clearly.

Yeah. Okay. So, you know, you're hoping those things follow suit. Next email is from Dave from a borough in New York City. Let's go with the Bronx. Dear Dutch, Kimball, Conan, and T-800. Is that what he was in Terminator? He was the T-800?

I did not know that. If you really want to wait on quarterback this year, how do you feel about drafting Tyrod Taylor and Jameis Winston? You could definitely get away with that. I don't know many leagues where there's going to be much clamor for those guys i had an interesting question today from uh one of our colleagues here um for a league that his father plays in on cbs sports and he's in a 12 team league that don't with only four bench spots and he was talking to his dad

about waiting on quarterbacks and his father said, well, in my league, everybody takes a quarterback by the first three or four rounds. And he was trying to explain to him that with only four bench spots, most likely no one is taking a backup quarterback. You'll pick up a guy on that week when you need someone. Keep an eye on your roster limits

when it comes to leagues like this because you don't want to carry only three backup running backs or receivers. So roster limits matter. We don't really talk about things like that a lot. But, yeah, Tyrod is going to start the first however many games. And you know getting Jameis back. And, look, you could talk about the highs and lows of how Jameis has performed as a fantasy quarterback,

even as an NFL quarterback. But I don't think we hammer this point home enough. In the 11 healthy games that he played last year, he was on pace to lead the NFL in passing yards. And this receiving core, look, however you like Mike Evans, you like Mike Evans. He's not like he's a top 30 receiver. He's a top 15 receiver, a top 10 receiver, a top 12, whatever the case may be. Deshaun Jackson will make plays. O.J. Howard and Cameron Brate will make plays.

Sorry, Jamie, I don't mean to cut you off. I just want to read some more emails. But just Tyrod Taylor and James Swenson. I just wonder if you could find a better combo to other late-round quarterbacks. You're putting yourself at a disadvantage if Tyrod Taylor. But why? Because there are so many good quarterbacks. Jared Goff and Dak Prescott instead.

You can, but you may be sacrificing somebody else in that round 9 or round 11 range. Where do you have Tyrod Taylor ranked? Round 9, round 11. Who's taking those guys in round 9 or round 11? ADP. Oh, yeah. People. Well, wait.

Tyrod Taylor? No, no, no. Dak and Goff. No, I'm just saying I don't want to have Taylor and Taylor. Obviously, you could do better. So do better. If these are two guys you like, take them. Rivers and Carr?

Sure. Rivers and Matt Ryan? Sure. You can mix and match. I feel like I'm at a sale. Stafford and Winston is the great combo if you want Jameis. Clinton, a golf town in North Carolina. Why bother getting Jameis? Just have Stafford roll with him a golf town in North Carolina. Why bother getting Jameis?

Just have Stafford roll with him. Golf town in North Carolina. Let's go with Greensboro. Dear Brian, Randy, Ray, and T.O. Hall of Famers. Which current backup running back that you're drafting in the mid to late rounds has the best chance of being a fantasy starter? Jordan Wilkins.

Rashad Penny? Well, no. I mean, Chris Carson's going after him. Yeah, but I mean, that's true that he's not being drafted in the late right. So Carson would be the one. Carson is the starter technically right now. All right. Jordan Wilkins.

Good answer. Good answer. Good answer. This is George from the capital of Louisiana. Oh, God. Baton Rouge. It's Baton Rouge, right? Yeah.

You were going to say New Orleans. No, I know. What's the outlook for Jamison Crowder? I like him a lot. I know I followed him for this trap last year, but now Josh Doxson's hurt again. I know Alex Smith was great throwing the ball down the field last year. You looked at all the metrics.

He was fantastic, but his track record suggests a lot of dump-offs and slot receiver play, and that's where Crowder will live. And apparently the rapport is great for those two guys. Kirk Cousins told me at the Super Bowl that Crowder was never 100% healthy last year. So I think a big bounce-back year is coming. From Rory, dear Blazer, Laser, Blade, and Michelle. The Ocho.

The Ocho, dodgeball. I'm preparing for a 12-team keeper draft. I'm not sure who to target. Which pair would you rather have, Jordan Howard and Amari Cooper or Keenan Allen and Darius Geis? The latter. Yeah. Because of Allen?

Yep. Okay. Yeah Because of Allen Yep Okay So Allen and Geis over Howard and Cooper That is it For today's show Bravo guys Tomorrow we do bust wide receivers Oh it's a keeper draft so you can keep Geis for a while too

Yeah there you go What are we doing tomorrow Adam Bust wide receivers And other stuff that I'll figure out I gotta go bye Yeah, there you go. Makes sense. What are we doing tomorrow, Adam? Bust wide receivers. All right. And other stuff that I'll figure out. All right, I've got to go. Bye.

Again? He's leaving. Headphones are off. That's all right. Dave and I will hang out. Pants on. He is rolling out of here. He's out of here. Now you can say anything you want about it.

Dave, warm up the vocal cords. We've got to give everybody an outro that they deserve. Well, now's a good time for me to do the rap that I know. Oh, no. You're not getting off that easy. You're not getting off that easy. I wish I was a little bit. No, can't do it.

For Dave and Jamie, we'll get Heath back next week, and we'll talk to you on Thursday. I'm Adam Azer. See you later. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na. It's all right. I've got Le'Veon. It's all right.

Not George Le'Veon. It's all right. I've got Le'Veon Not George Le'Veon I've got Le'Veon Bell