Fantasy Football Today - 08/06: Prisco's Training Camp Scoops; Early ADP Values (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 6, 2018

A number of players are having big camps and making Fantasy headlines. We bring in our CBS Sports Senior Writer Pete Prisco who has been touring NFL training camps as Pete tells us the one player who has popped the most in training camp (1:34) (spoiler: it's Dalvin Cook). How high is too high for Cook? Then Pete talks LAC camp (4:26) with some Mike Williams love and more. Also get the scoop on the LAR WRs (6:24), what to expect from Patrick Mahomes (8:58), who has the leg up among the GB WRs and RBs (11:10) and if Calvin Ridley needs more love (13:40) ... Running through the NFL news (27:12) as we wonder if Blake Bortles can be a Fantasy starter, if Sony Michel's injury (29:40) knocks him back a few rounds and if some young WRs are justifying the hype ... ADP review! We've got overdrafted players (42:00) and underdrafted players (49:40) you need to know about ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. All right, just three days away from the real start of preseason football.

Let's talk about training camp. Yeah, which players are turning heads in camp? Who is becoming fantasy relevant? We're also going to look at early average draft position and find some overdrafted, some underdrafted players for you. I am Adam Azer. Welcome back. I hope it was a great weekend, everybody.

I've got Dave Richard here with Heath Cummings. We'll have Jamie later. First, though, we've got a special guest. He's back. What's up, Pete Prisco, our CBS Sports senior writer. How are you doing, Pete? I am back. Yeah.

Road weary and beat to death, but I'm back. That's right. Now, you've been touring training camps around the country. I hope you found time to find some Buffalo Wild Wings on the way. Love Buffalo Wild Wings. Oh, yeah. There's actually one in Costa Mesa, California, right by where I was staying. So I did go in there. Love Buffalo Wild Wings.

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Dalvin Cook, without question. Yes. I knew that was coming. The day I watched him practice, he was phenomenal. And in talking to him after practice, he says he's quicker and faster than he was before the injury. And you know what? It's hard to argue with the guy. He was phenomenal.

Well, we talked so much about him, guys. But Pete's tweet about Dalvin Cook inspired my reckless thoughts of taking him as early as fifth. I've backed off from that. So where are you taking him now? Like eighth or ninth. Who would you take fifth? Obviously, they're back. So how are you running them?

Well, not necessarily because I might take Antonio Brown ahead. But, you know, Pete, for me, I'm really having a hard time between Kareem Hunt and Dalvin Cook. And I just decided I'll take the guy who's not coming off the ACL injury. Yeah, but you wouldn't know he was coming off an ACL injury. I probably would lean to Dalvin Cook in that situation. I'm having a hard time managing my excitement over Dalvin Cook. Yeah. Can I give you some names, and you tell me, Pete, who you would take between Cook versus?

Okay. And Heath, jump in on this. Adam, jump in on this, too. We'll all do it. These are all names that I have ranked ahead of Dalvin Cook. Okay. So we did Kareem Hunt. What about Leonard Fournette? I know, Pete, that you know Leonard

Fournette well from being in Jacksonville. They're going to run the ball better this year because they added Norwell and Robbins is going to be better and he's lost weight. I probably take Cook. I still think he misses too many holes. Doesn't make anybody miss. I take Cook. Adam? Oh, Cook. Yeah.

Saquon. That's easy for me. Right side of the Giants line stinks. Doesn't make anybody mad. Four-night. I take Cook. Adam? Oh, Cook. Yeah. Cook. Saquon. Saquon or Cook. Cook. That's easy for me. Right side of the Giants line stinks. Alvin Kamara. Non-PPR. Non-PPR, it's Cook.

Cook. Definitely, but what about PPR? It's a real tough one. It's got to be Kamara, right? Cook's going to catch a lot of passes out of backfield, too. He's not going to catch 80. No, but he'll catch 50. He'll catch 50. He'll catch 50.

He'll catch 50. If it wasn't for the Ingram suspension, I'd say Cook and PPR, too. But those first four weeks could be pretty massive for Kamara. You'd take Kamara? Yeah. All right, last one, and you're all going to say Cook. Melvin Gordon. Cook.

Cook. And you saw Melvin Gordon. I did see Melvin Gordon. Yeah, all right, so tell us about Melvin Gordon. Well, Eckler's going to take some stuff away from Melvin Gordon. I did see Melvin Gordon. Yeah, all right, so tell us about Melvin Gordon. Well, Eckler's going to take some stuff away from Melvin Gordon. Not how much I know. Austin Eckler looks fantastic, and they're raving about him.

And Phillip Rivers told me he's going to assume the Danny Woodhead role from a couple years ago, which means he's going to take some touches and some catches away from him. I assume they have to throw the ball to the running backs more with no really good tight end. They threw the ball 150 times to their tight ends. They're not going to do that to Virgil Green. Gates is coming back, by the way. Yeah. He will be back. We've got a lot to talk about with that stop and with the Chargers.

Let's start there, Dave. Kick it off. Let's talk Chargers here. Pete's going to be with us for about 15, 20 minutes. Jamie will come on later, and we'll look at ADP. But we want to get Pete's thoughts on what he's seen and what he's heard from camps around the country. All right. We'll start with San Diego.

I mean, yeah, Los Angeles. I keep saying San Diego. It's okay. Everybody says San Diego. You know what's funny? I did it when I opened my interview with Rivers, and he looked at me and he goes, well, I still do live there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But look, Mike Williams is going to be a real deal for them.

And I'll be honest with you. I didn't think Mike Williams was as good as most people thought coming out of school. I thought he was a little slow by my standards. But he's the last week the light went on. And in talking to guys around that team, the light needed to go on. I mean, he's in shape. He's dedicated. He understands what it takes to be a pro.

And I think Mike Williams, he had two touchdown catches in the scrimmage and today I was there cutting a bunch of balls. So I think he's going to be a big-time producer for them. That would be huge for Phillip Rivers. There's your answer to your question about the tight end, where those catches are going. That's where they're going. Because then he can still have Keenan Allen,

then you have the other Williams, and you have that Williams. All right. How fast was he? Because the guy's big. He played fast. He played fast. Yeah, he played fast today. I saw him.

I'm with you. I'm not convinced that he has the take-offs and go speed. Can he catch 65% of 105 targets? Are those numbers in line for Mike Williams? Yeah. All right. I think so. Well, then that makes me a little worried about what we could get out of Keenan Allen.

No, because he looks even better. They let him leave a passing last year. Okay. I have a hard time seeing Keenan Allen getting to 95 catches. Let's say he goes to 90. Mike Williams goes to 65. Eckler goes to 40. And that's going to hurt Melvin Gordon, right? Gordon will go to 35, 40, 40.

So that's where your catchers are going. I mean, if Gates comes back, he's catching 30, right? 40, 5 maybe. And then Green will catch 20 like he always does. Can we stay in Los Angeles and go to the Rams now? Yeah. All right. So Rams are going to unleash a little bit more of McVay's offense,

which should be fun. But there's a lot of fantasy dispute about Cooks versus Woods versus Cup. What do you think about the Rams wide receivers? Who's the guy? Cooks will be the guy. Cooks will be the guy. And I think Cup will get a lot of touchdowns. I think it'll go, if I was picking him, I'd probably go Cooks, Cup, Woods.

That's how I would pick him. That's how I have it. Yeah. But I've got Cup and Woods like back-to-back, and Cooks is a little higher. So Cooks is getting more than the Samuel Watt control. Yes. But we talked about this on FFT. By the way, we're doing FFT every day between now and the end of the football season.

Sometimes with Pete Frisco. 120 targets is right around where Brandon Cooks has been the past few years. I have a hard time believing that he'll see that many targets from Jared Goff in this offense. Well, you've got to count Gurley's catches. And, you know, Higby looked better too. Did he? Yeah. That surprised me a little bit.

Yeah. Did you like him coming out? I don't like him. He had issues off the field. I know, but on the field he looked really good. He looked better. He looked quicker and more sure of himself. So, yeah, you're right.

Is he going to get 120 targets? That's going to be tough to do. All right. I know this isn't exactly what I plan on talking about because we all love Todd Gurley. He's going to be a number one, number two pick in just about every draft. But we got an email, Pete, on Friday. It was a really interesting email. It was about year two running backs.

And so we went through the last five years of year two running backs, and guys like Trent Richardson is kind of one of the headliners. But he wasn't really that good his rookie year anyway. But there's some guys who had some speed bumps, and Todd Gurley I guess would be the big headliner, right? What happens in year two? And the fantasy football landscape, the first round and early second round, we just talked about Dalvin Cook, dominated by year two running backs.

I don't know if I should say dominated, but there are some of them. Is that a thing, Pete? Do running backs have trouble adjusting in year two? Because we'll talk about Fournette. We'll talk about Hunt. We'll talk about Cook. These guys. Is that a real thing or just kind of a fluky thing that's happened over the past few years?

I think it's fluky. I mean, there could be some theory that you figure them out a little bit, but I don't buy that. I think it's just fluky. Jordan Howard had two good years in a row, right? Well, it was a lot worse for him you know he lost like a yard per carry was worse too i mean you got to look at the lines what happens all that other stuff i i think that's fluky guys should get better as they get older not worse so i do think that's fluky all right uh let's go to the chiefs camp and do you think

patrick mahomes can keep tyreek hill and Travis Kelsey and now Sammy Watkins as fantasy regulars, fantasy starters? I don't think there's any question about that. Now, he's going to throw a lot of interceptions. That's been happening in practice. Yeah, you can't – but like this isn't like the Aaron Rodgers one day he throws three interceptions. But you know what?

And I had this conversation. Happening a lot. I had this conversation with Andy Reid and with Mahomes when I was there. They are working on stuff in practice to see. And Andy Reid told him, see what you can get away with. Then you'll know what you can't get away with. So they're going through practice with that mentality. So he's, you know, say he's reading the deep ball in a game. He might say, OK, I'm not going to take that shot. I'm going to come down and check down to the back. But in practice, he might say might say okay let me see if i can fit that in there then i'll have an idea and he'll rip it and if they pick it then he knows the next time he

can't put it in there so people get so caught up in interceptions in training camp you know i want it was a couple years ago mariota didn't throw an interception in like a week of training camp practices and somebody tweeted that out i said that's not a good thing. Oh, Pete loves interceptions. He loves interceptions. No, I don't love interceptions. But if you're not taking your shots, you're not having interceptions. And if you're not taking your shots, I don't want you playing my quarterback.

But if you're a betting man, Patrick Mahomes has got to be the favorite to lead the league in interceptions this year. Because he's not going to get benched. He's going to throw a ton. He'll probably throw 20-ish. He had 25 interceptions in 25 games his last two years at Texas Tech, and he had an interception against Denver last year on an ugly throw. It was probably his ugliest throw of the game.

And then he came back and made a bunch of – He did. That's true. I'm okay. Brett Favre is the all-time interception leader. Like Andy Reid said, he goes, yeah, so threw a lot of touchdowns too. I mean I don't mind that. I think you'll get that.

But I think he's going to be the gunslinger mentality. He's going to take shots. Hill's going to get a lot of balls down the field. Kelsey's going to be his guy in the middle of the field. They're still going to put up big numbers. So to answer your question, Adam, yes, I do believe in all those guys. Do you think he's an upgrade over Alex Smith? In your two, Patrick McCombs will be better than Alex Smith? What he had been?

Will he be better than what Alex Smith did last year or this year? Probably not. Will he be better in the long run for that football team? Yes. By year two, he will be. What are you hearing about the wide receivers for the Packers? What are we thinking there? Allison will be the third.

And they're pretty much dead set on that. And big believers in him, by the way. Devontae Adams, big believer in him when I talk to him. Aaron Rodgers, big believer when I talk to him. Mike McCarthy, big believer when I talk to him. So I think Allison is a solid number three there. Adams, Cobb, Allison. Adams, Cobb, Allison.

As long as Cobb's healthy. Right, as long as Cobb's healthy. He's back at practice. Well, if it's Adams, Allison, then it's question mark. But there's a lot of bodies. Was there a rookie that stood out to you? No. Because they drafted three of them.

They were all, their heads were spinning. It was the first week of camp when I was there, and their heads were spinning. I told you, the guy who looked the best out of all of them was Kumaro. Jake Kumaro. And he's developed a nice rapport with Rodgers. It wouldn't astound me to see him make the team. So that's maybe their number four wide receiver.gers. It wouldn't astound me to see him make the team. So that's maybe their number four wide receiver. Yeah, wouldn't astound me to see him make the team.

And then Trevor Davis, but for me, he's more of a special teams guy. So I want to ask you another question about the Packers, right? You got no more Jordy Nelson. I want to know if you think Devontae Adams is really that alpha dog, that number one wide receiver. Cobb getting up there a little bit in age, and he's been beat up. And no true number one running back yet. You got injuries to both tackles.

They seem like they're fine, but those guys are banged up a lot, Bulaga and Bakhtiari. Are there reasons to worry about the Packers' offense? No. No? Because remember, Pete, we were like, God, this offense has no creativity. It seems to have stalled.

And I actually talked to Adams about that a little bit, about how they're running more crossing routes and more picks and rubs now than they have. Thank God. Yeah, I agree. They have to. Got to give it the times. No, I'm not worried about that offense at all.

They'll be fine. He could throw to us three, Reverend. No, I'm not worried about that offense at all. They'll be fine. He could throw to us three, Reverend Rodgers, and they'd complete passes. Yeah, we're not good after the catch. By the way, I didn't include you. I was talking about A's or me. You're playing left tackle, Dave. You're filling in for Bogdiari over there.

Come on. We've got to talk about the run game for the Packers. I think it's Williams. Jamal Williams is the guy. He's the man. How do they feel about Aaron Jones? Being suspended? No for the Packers. I think it's Williams. Jamal Williams is the guy. He's the man. How do they feel about Aaron Jones? Being suspended? No, just in general. I like him.

But what I was told was Jamal Williams will get the majority of the carries, but they will use them all because they don't want to burn him out by December and January. So then Ty Montgomery will be the passing down guy. Right. So they'll all be involved, but I think the primary runner will be Williams. Heath and Dave, do you feel like – let's go to Falcons camp. Do you feel like Calvin Ridley is getting any fantasy love right now? Or do you think people are just kind of avoiding him?

Basically none in any format other than Dynasty. Nobody expects anything this year. They're wrong. Well, I was going to say, I think if you draft him with the expectation of him being a good bench receiver in seasonal leagues, in redraft leagues, he's not going to get 1,000 yards this year. Well, but if you play three receivers, he's your third on a bye week. Correct. Right. So he's like your fantasy team's number four wide receiver.

He's going to be the Falcons' number two receiver. And I heard what you had to say about him, and I want you to tell everybody what you saw in Falcons camp. But I think he's got a shot at not quite 900 but like 850 and 6 5850 and 6 I don't think he even gets to 900

I'm going to say 850 like I told you on FFT today one of the things that surprised Matt Ryan was how fast he actually was he thought he was fast, but he's faster, which gives them a different dimension than what they have in Julio. I mean, Julio's fast, but he ain't burner fast. This kid's burner fast.

Does he know more than two routes? No, he's not a dumb kid. He knows that. No, I didn't think he was a dumb kid. He went to Monarch High School. They didn't have a very advanced passing game in Alabama. He didn't have a lot of experience. Julio played in Alabama, too, and he picked it up.

So I think he'll be fine. He ran a crosser the day I was there where he took off and ran away from the entire defense. You could see it. Can I ask one more thing? Did you talk to Steve Sarkeesian? I did. He worked with Ridley at Alabama when he was there. He did. Do you think that that's going to help Ridley

adapt better? I think Sarkeesian's being familiar with everybody this year will help. Not just him. But the fact that he's already had a year with Ridley and knows what Ridley can do. They know what Ridley can do. The staff that drafts him knows what he can do. I'm just saying when he calls up plays, I wonder if he'll think of certain plays for Ridley that maybe an OC that didn't work with him before, wouldn't know. What it also will do is if he can take the top off, it will help that safety from going and shading toward Julio's side all the time.

Yeah, so that might even give – Right, it might even give – and it will help open up Sanu in the middle of the field. Look, that offense is going to be very, very good this year. Again, it's going to go – I'm not saying it's going back to the MVP offense of two years ago when Ryan was MVP, but it's going to be much MVP offense of two years ago when Ryan was MVP, but it's going to be much better than it was a year ago, no doubt. Pete, do you think there's another offense off the top of your head that takes a big step up this year, really surprises people?

Like the Rams did last year, you mean? Yeah. It doesn't have to be number one. I'm not on the traditionals that everybody else is. It's easy to say the Bears because they're this year's Jared Goff and Sean McVay. I don't buy that. It's easy to say the 49ers.

I think they're a year away. And Jimmy Garoppolo, quite frankly, threw seven touchdown passes and five picks. You would think he threw 25 and five the way people talk about him. So I'm not on them. An offense that will take a big forward step. I can give you a couple suggestions. I think Broncos are going to be better on offense. That was one of the suggestions.

I think the Broncos will be significantly better on offense. I think Case Keenum is going to be a big upgrade for them. That's one of them. I'll tell you another one that's going to be better on offense. The Jaguars are going to be better on offense. You mean the team you picked to go to the Super Bowl? You're damn right. I picked them.

Yeah, I know. Teams loaded, man. Packers over the Jaguars, 27-20. Adam picked him to miss the playoffs already. You did not, did you, Adam? I did. They're out. You're way off base.

Who do you have winning the South? I don't know. I didn't pick anybody to win the division. I just don't think they're going to make the playoffs because of Blake Bortles. I'm not a Bortles guy. You know, look, I know he's not a Bortles guy, but even you guys got to give it to him. The way he played down the stretch and on in the playoffs, he didn't turn the ball over once in the postseason.

He played very well against Pittsburgh. He played very well against New England in the fourth quarter. And his ability to run the football that day against Buffalo when they decided they weren't going to throw any passes was big in that game. They went in that game. I know, I was told. We're not throwing passes because Buffalo isn't scoring on us. We're not going to blow the game by turning the ball over.

Well, they didn't. And he ran for about – what did he run for? 85 yards or something? It was crazy, yeah. And you know what? Didn't he run for more yards than he threw? He did. And that day, a lot of the players in that locker room said, you know what?

This is our guy. Because he ran for more than he threw? No, because he was tough as hell. That's right. Not because he ran. Because he was tough as hell. He took a lot of shots. Look, what you don't know, Adam, is last year, the little receivers that they had, they didn't know the routes.

He had no – he called play. They look at him with a glazed look on their face. And I was told they shut it down in the championship game because those kids were running the wrong routes in large part. But those guys know the playbook now. And Keelan Cole, to me, is one of the great sleepers in fantasy this year. Okay? He is one of the great – he averaged 18 year. He is one of the great sleepers. He averaged 18 yards a catch a year ago.

Didn't know where he was going. Now he knows where he's going. He's put on about 12 pounds. He's thicker. Westbrook will be smarter. Safarian Jenkins is 10 times better player in terms of catching the football than Mercedes Lewis is. They're going to be much better offensively.

Actually, I was going to read our email of the day. It was from Tom. Dave, Tom is from a Canadian city in between Montreal and Toronto. Between Montreal and Toronto? He's moving. He's going to Saskatchewan. Okay. It was about the Jacksonville.

I was actually segueing into the Jacksonville wide receivers, but I think you answered it. Who would be the first one you drafted, Pete? Cole? If you want to play safe, you draft Lee first. If you want to play I'm going to go for the gusto, I draft Cole first. Or you just wait for Cole. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, how about you guys? How are you feeling about him? Exactly what Pete said. I'll play it safe and go Lee first. Yeah, that's a safe pick. What about Didi? Is he fantasy relevant?

Hard to say which Didi is going to show up. I bet he's fantasy relevant like four times this year, and we never have any idea when it's going to be. Here's the point. Is there even going to be one Jaguars receiver that finishes in the top 24? Because I could see it where Lee has a good week, and then it's Didi, and then it's Cole, and then it's none. Can one of you guys read me cole's numbers last year just off the top of your head because he didn't know where he was going yes what he did was a was gravy considering and he was undrafted

and he's a skinny he weighed about 170 pounds 42 catches 748 yards and three touchdowns on 82 targets okay so project that's insane, over his last five games. He played 16 games, but a lot of those games he really didn't play. He didn't play. How about this projection? Over his last five games, look at what he did over his last five games. He was on pace for 74 catches, 1,520 yards, and 10 touchdowns. You're going to get something more like, not that,

but you're going to get something more. I don't know. You're going to get 65, 1,108. Right. So his projection from week seven on last year over 16 games is 58 catches, 11, 22, and five, which is pretty damn good. That's good. For a late-round pick, that's not bad.

Nothing pick. Came off the street. No, I'm talking about in fantasy. Pete, so what do I get when they miss the playoffs? Buffalo Wild Wings on you? You got it. All right. What do I get when they make the Super Bowl?

Buffalo Wild Wings on Adam. That's not a good bet. How about Buffalo Wild Wings for life if they make the Super Bowl? Fine. We can hook it up. I'm sure. Pete, thanks for stopping by. By the way, they have so many flavors of Buffalo Wild Wings that I could eat one, eat a different one every day.

I know. It's still helpful for life. And you know what? It's a shame I didn't get to make my joke about Pete Prisco. But he does have the Get Off My Lawn reputation. I do, but I'm a nice guy. He's a little prickly. Did you hear me?

I said Get Off My Lawn. Yes, I am. Get Off My Lawn. There you go. Get off my show, Adam. Get off my show, Pete. I forgot. All right, man.

Jamie Eisenberg, take it over. Thank you, Pete Prisco. Great stuff from our senior writer. Make sure you follow Pete Scott on the website on CBSSports.com as he tours training camps and gives us knowledge that few can. That's great stuff from Pete. Well, Pete's a lucky guy. He gets to use his credential to go to games everywhere, but you at home, you don't have

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How are you? What did you hear from Pete that jumped out? I mean, I talk to Pete every day, so nothing. Yeah, you guys are – he was actually upset. He was all like – Get off my lawn. When we told him that Jamie wasn't going to be on the podcast with him. It was weird, wasn't it? They really –

When I mentioned that Jamie was at lunch, and that's why he wasn't on, he got really... He was like, no, he wouldn't do that. No, I was at my home away from home, the CBS Sports HQ desk. Yes, good stuff. Check out CBS Sports HQ.

I watch it all the time on my Roku. Any over-the-top device that you have, download the CBS Sports app and watch HQ. I watch it all the time on my Roku. Any over-the-top device that you have, download the CBS Sports app and watch HQ. It is time now for our fantasy profile presented by Buffalo Wild Wings. And we're going to take a look at some depth chart stuff, guys who are having good camps, who are climbing up the rankings a little bit, or at least getting into the discussion. We're profiling an unknown or underrated fantasy football player who listeners should get to know as they could be key to winning your season here on the Fantasy Profile presented by Buffalo Wild Wings. Heath, let's go to a year two wide receiver. We're just going to

give him a mulligan for year one, John Ross in Cincinnati. Yeah, we just talked about Mike Williams, and I think you can make some of the same arguments for John Ross that we made for Mike Williams. He was a complete bust as a rookie, but he still has the pedigree. And we questioned whether Mike Williams is fast enough. There's no question whether John Ross is fast enough. The guy is blazing fast. They cut Brandon LaFell, I think, mostly because they're starting to feel more comfortable with Ross outside. He, I believe, is currently listed as their number two wide receiver.

Yeah. Would you guys take calvin ridley or john ross ridley yeah i do have ridley ahead in the rankings that could change this preseason so what would need to happen go ahead uh john ross starts making big plays and is definitely the number two receiver for the bing. If they both play 16 games, Ross could conceivably be better. It's not out of their own possibility because the more likely team that has less mouth to feed is the Bengals. So that should help him. But health with me is the biggest thing. I just don't know if he'll play 16 games.

Right. I mean, right now, Ross is probably on the radar, right? He's not in the draft yet, but he's on the radar. Unless you draft with Nick Costas, who takes him about six rounds before he should be there. Really? Big boss John Ross.

Every draft. Okay, that's good to know. I guess I know Nick's wasting a pick. Alright, let's do some... He took him, I guess I know Nick's wasting a pick. All right, let's do some. No. It's like my thing in like the fifth round of our startup dynasty league that we did. It's like my O.J. Howard pick. Nobody takes him but me.

I like it. I got to tell you. So a little peek behind the curtain. You did not draft that team, correct? Which one? The dynasty team. No, I did not. You drafted it. Right.

I drafted for you. And there was a spot in the draft where I made a pick, and then I think within the next round before your turn came up, somebody took O.J. Howard, and I went, oh, God. Oh, Jamie. All players for me not to give Adam. Don't worry. I have O.J.

Howard on my real dynasty team. Good. But now I also have Trey Burton. Actually, in the process of doing my dynasty draft now. It's fun. My slow, untimed free agent draft. What are your picks? What did you say?

What are your picks? Well, obviously, most people were kept. My second pick was Josh McCown. That's great because I really don't have a quarterback. And I may not have a quarterback. You probably still don't. No, I have Trubisky. That was your second round pick?

Well, there's already like 24 guys kept on every team. Isn't it a rookie draft? No, I did a rookie draft. The rookie draft I took Kerryon Johnson one. Oh, so this is a supplemental draft. And I think I took Josh Allen two. Yeah, this is the supplemental. You should have specified that.

Sorry. Okay, yeah, my bad. Free agent draft. These picks aren't that fun. Don't worry about it. But I will say I was very disappointed that I did not get Chester Rogers with my third pick. You want to talk about deep sleepers. That was a guy I was hoping.

I like him a lot. Yeah. Third year receiver. Meanwhile, my Josh McCown pick may be terrible because Sam Darnold could start week one, according to Adam Schefter. And let's bring up Blake Bortles one more time here because he's been playing through a wrist injury each of the last two seasons. He says his wrist finally feels good. And if you take a look at his schedule, and I know, Dave, you pinpointed the Jaguars as having a great schedule. Each of Bortles' first seven opponents last year were 20th or worse in fantasy points allowed to opposing quarterbacks,

including the worst team in week one at the Giants. And they'll be better, but maybe not that much better. Bortles has a nice schedule. And he's been a top 13 quarterback three straight years. That's kind of crazy. Where do you guys have him ranked? Lone. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just not that exciting. It's hard to get excited about him i mean look pete is is right he's not the only person that's talked up keelan cole um marquis lee will certainly make some plays safarian jenkins as pete said is an upgraded tight end and whatever they get at a dd westbrook or dante moncrief is you know certainly going to be good but it's it's a run first team and that's going to be their mo their bread and butter portals did play very well down the stretch but i just don't think you can go into your unless

it's a two quarterback league or super flex league and say i feel comfortable on my fantasy team with blake portals in any capacity let him surprise you let him be a waiver wire pickup you don't have to draft well and when it comes to the schedule, I wonder with Jacksonville specifically, if Bortles' schedule, it matters more how good the opposing offense is as opposed to how bad the pass defense is. Because if they're not playing teams that can keep up, that can score against them,

just like they did against Buffalo in the playoffs, I'm not sure why they're going to throw the ball very often. Right. Like Pete said, if the game plan is to not have him make mistakes, as much as they view that as performance is admirable which i'm sure they do what does that say about their confidence level on him to go out and have to win games unless it's in dire need well he thought i will tell you that they are playing some teams that could be very good offensively giants patriots titans jets chiefs cowboys texans

it's a pretty tough schedule for their defense to start, but I think we've used all the allotted Blake Bortles time, so let's move on. Sonny Michel is going to be out at least 10 days after having fluid drained from his knee. Rex Burkhead was listed ahead of Michel on the depth chart. I will remind everyone, Mike Gillisley missed a lot of camp last year with a hamstring injury, and he still was the guy in week one. He had 15 carries and he had three touchdowns and he got me all excited and then he let everybody down.

What's the impact, Dave, of the Sonny Michel injury right now? I think it's going to crush his chances of making an impact early this year. Could mean until October because he's not going to get a lot of practice time while he's

he's definitely not going to get any while he's sidelined. And then he's got to recover from the procedure. And then he's got to earn the trust of Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels. That's not going to happen in three weeks time. So I think you're going to see the Patriots begin the year probably without Sonny Michel having any type of role for at least the first week or two, and then they ease him back in. His version of training camp will be the early part of the regular season,

and then maybe by week five, week six, he's contributing more, and if he earns it, then he takes over the Lions. Sharon gets 15 plus carries a couple catches a game does he unseat rex burkhead and jeremy hill is the goal line guy i don't know that seems like a tall task i just i think it's complete it it could it could send him back anywhere from a couple of weeks to the entire season well there's a few things here first off jeremy hill is still competing with gillsie to be in that role and there's different reports on who's been better so gilsey hasn't been practiced well gilsey was practicing earlier no he's he's missed a lot of practice from what i

understand still wearing like the red non-contact jersey when he does get out there okay i maybe it's just about who's making the final team is what i saw but in in terms of who's going to be that guy now it could be both of them because they may open the season with their full complement of running backs that they have on their roster. But Burkhead, injury-prone. Gillislee, injury-prone.

Jeremy Hill ended last season on IR. So Michel may be a factor at some point as we get to the middle of the season from just an injury standpoint. But this does not help his cause at all. Heath, Shiel Kapadia of The Athletic thinks that Philadelphia is going to monitor Jay Ajayi's carries and that Darren Sproles could have a significant role in the offense.

Yeah, and I think he will have a role in the offense. I don't know how significant it's going to be for Sproles, but this has been my problem with Ajayi all along is Corey Clement's going to get a considerable amount of touches. Darren Sproles is going to do some work in the passing game. I don't think Ajayi has much of a path to being a workhorse back.

Bill O'Brien says running back Deontay Foreman is heading in the right direction as he recovers from an Achilles injury. Frank Gore and Kenyon Drake listed as co-starters for the Dolphins. We talked about that with Pete. And Mike Zimmer was asked if Dalvin Cook's going to be ready for week one. He said he's ready now. Have we talked about Dalvin

Cook on this podcast? The official podcast. He missed a good one. You missed a good draft. Oh, yeah? Yeah, it was fun. Adam was picking ninth? Eighth. Yeah. Eighth. And he said prior to the draft

that he made his claim about Dalvin Cook fourth overall. So he said he's going to take him at eight. And he said prior to the draft that he made his claim about Dalton fourth overall. So he said he's going to take him at eight. And then sure enough, comes to eight, and he takes Kareem Hunt. Sounds right. And then he said he would have – he kind of talked it through about how he was considering it. And then Will Brinson was the first one to jump all over him,

which led to – you could read – I mean, I posted a transcript. Okay. Of the chat for the story. But yeah, Adam got a lot of bleep. Sounds like a very Adam Acer draft. No, I mean, look, you say things, then you have to go play it out. That's why you do mock drafts.

You have to see if you really have that conviction. He also said, after the fact that he did not take the player that he loves the most, how much he loves the team that he drafted. Oh, it is a great team. It's a really excellent team. Oh, this was great. Calvin Benjamin just ripping Cam Newton. What a moron.

If you were to put me with any other quarterback, let's be real, you know what I'm saying? Any other accurate quarterback like Rodgers or Eli Manning or Big Ben, anybody, quarterbacks with knowledge that know how to place the ball and give you a better chance to catch the ball, it just felt like I wasn't in that position. It's a good time to make that statement. Yeah. And when you're in Buffalo.

And his coach wasn't pleased with it. No. Now the Bills now acquired Corey Coleman, a former. That's why, after what Cam Newton said They went on they had to find a direct replacement After So they got a guy who was a first round pick For a seventh round pick

Is Calvin Benjamin still a sleeper With the addition of Corey Coleman Yes but this hurts him To whatever extent I don't think it hurts him one bit It hurts his floor Because if Corey Coleman delivers on his potential to whatever extent. I don't think it hurts him one bit. It hurts his floor because if Corey Coleman delivers on his potential, he has more potential than Kelvin Benjamin.

What's Corey Coleman's potential? I don't think that. I think he has more potential than Zay Jones and Jeremy Curley. It just takes away some target opportunities where if you're looking at it as a trust thing, I hope Corey Coleman, it's certainly not been proven, but I hope he's better than the guys that are there besides Benjamin.

So it's probably a situation where whether it's Allen or McCarron or Peterman, they know that if Coleman starts to show up in practice, that they'll lean on him more so than they probably would Zay Jones, who hasn't been practicing, and Jeremy Curley, who's still going to be their slot guy. I actually think you can look at Corey Coleman's game log and look at what he did without Josh Gordon and say, there's something there.

He just hasn't been healthy. He's played 19 games in two seasons. You know, there's something interesting there, but it's not exactly an offense that we're excited about. Well, and it's not just, like, and it's not going to get any better this year probably, and it's not just... And it's not going to get any better this year, probably, but it's not just his health. He's had Deshaun Kizer, Archie Three, Josh

McCown, Cody Kessler, and Kevin Hogan throw him footballs. Nice Josh McCown. He's probably like, Cam, why are you complaining? We mentioned John Ross. He opened scrimmage as the number two wide receiver for Cincinnati. DJ Moore was listed behind Torrey Smith on Carolina's depth chart. There's a lot of depth chart stuff out right now.

It's almost all meaningless. I think Darius Geist is on the fifth team for the Reds. Uh-oh, we better not take him. Wow. Cleveland GM John Dorsey expects Josh Gordon to rejoin the team. There was a report that it could happen soon, but now we're not so sure. There was a deadline for him to be able to fulfill his restricted free agent status, and they switched his PUP list designation so that he still should be okay. So they're looking out for him.

So it does seem very positive that they're trying to make sure he's right and ready to go. And the Corey Coleman trade helps that perception at least a little bit as well. Unless they sign Dez. There was a report from NFL Network that said, A, that Coleman trade had nothing to do with Josh Gordon, and B, the Coleman trade had nothing to do with Des Bryant. They just didn't want Corey Coleman there, which is why I think he's just going to be a non-factor. Because if you're going to be a non-factor in Cleveland, what are the odds that you're going to be a factor in Buffalo? Well, this is John Dorsey getting rid of the entire draft.

Probably. They just clean house on everybody. But if he thought he could get something out of him, he would have kept him. He traded him for a booger, Jamie. Who's giving anything for a guy that you could potentially see cut? You can get a booger for him. That's what he got from Buckner. I guess seventh round pick.

That's in 2020. It's not even this year. I'm going to give Josh Gordon three weeks. If he's not there in three weeks, then I'm going to get nervous. Because we're about five weeks away from the start of the NFL season. And I would assume Josh Gordon will need a couple of weeks to get himself

How much longer does Hard Knocks go? I don't know. It's a good question. They tape all the way through. Alright, let's move on. The last one is the week before week one, right? I want to get to ADP. Chris Godwin, according to the Tampa Bay Times, is going to be an outside receiver, going to start for the Buccaneers.

I love this. Chris Godwin, now this is a guy when he had six or more targets. He did very well with it. I can get the exact. Four games with six or more targets. He scored six, six, nine, and 17 fantasy points in non-PPR. So he didn't have much opportunity last year, but he made it count when he did.

Should Chris Godwin be going ahead of Deshaun Jackson? And maybe neither of them are drafted in most leagues. I don't know. But is Chris Godwin the number two fantasy receiver for the Bucs? Yes. Yes. Chris Godwin or John Ross? Godwin.

Ross. Ooh. That's really – I think I go Godwin right now. Wait a minute. Do I have Mike Evans on my team? Because this is the perfect – Ross. That's really... I think I go Godwin right now. Wait a minute. Do I have Mike Evans on my team? Because this is the perfect strategy ever. Is Evans and Godwin. If you're in a deeper league,

say you go 17 rounds, then you could get Green and Ross. But I'm worried about Ross for the same reasons you are. I'm wondering if he's just too brittle. And I don't know if he's a complete receiver. He's just really, really fast. I've said it before. I wish

the Bucs, no offense to Deshaun Jackson, would have cut him to open the opportunity for Godwin to be this guy. And apparently they're not even worried about Deshaun Jackson, so they're just going to elevate him, which they should. And the other thing to think about is the Bucs are probably going to be in two worried about the sean jackson so they're just gonna elevate him which they should so and and the other thing to think about is the bucks are probably going to be in two tight end sets a

little bit more than your typical nfl team especially in the rhythm so that takes a receiver off the field unless they're going to go five wide no running back i don't think that'll happen very often that they'll do that but if they're in two tight end sets which receivers off the field between godwin and jackson maybe now you think that it's Jackson. I think it probably is Jackson now. And not Godwin. And I like that in the red zone. Honestly, I like that a lot better because Godwin's a bigger target for the Jays.

Both tight ends will be on the field. But that's what I'm saying. Both tight ends, Mike Evans, are running back. And then who's that last guy? Godwin or Javi Godwin. The nice thing is Jackson's a veteran that doesn't ever cause a sting. He won't have any problem being on the field at all. Cordero Patterson having

a good camp for the Patriots. Do we care? No. Once upon a time, there was a former Raider that went to Foxboro. He went for being an afterthought, and then he became 23 touchdowns in a season.

And started in Minnesota. And it started in Minnesota. Oh, wow. Look at that path. Again, if you're in that 17-round draft, Cordell Patterson might not be such a bad letter. But especially knowing how thin the Patriots are at wide receiver. After Godwin and Ross. After Godwin and Ross.

We are going deep today, Bob. Ross and Godwin. Brandon Coleman has been released by the Saints. John Gruden needs to see more from Martavis Bryant. Maybe he's not old enough for John Gruden. And the Giants and Odell Beckham have not agreed to a contract yet. Meanwhile, at tight end, Zach Ertz has missed three straight practices for reasons unknown. What's going on here with Ertz?

Scary. No one knows. You don't like to see stuff going on here with Ertz? Scary No one knows You don't like to see stuff like this He Ertz Alright, I'm drafting today I take Ertz in round 3 And Miami tight end Mike Gusecki

Is having a good camp He's having a mixed camp, right? No, he's having a good camp I've heard that he's turned it around He's not a blocker, but nobody expected him to be a blocker. I have a rookie tight end theory that I'm going to do. I'm just going to take Hurst and Gusecki with two of my last picks and just see which one pans out. Are you going to take a tight end otherwise?

No. So those are your extreme tight ends between those two. If I miss. Why, though? We almost never get good rookie tight ends. Well, Hurst is 40. He's a man. He's old and they both are in systems that favor the tight end and have receiving cores that are somewhat inconsistent so i'll buy the

the reports on gasecki because you know he's somebody that that comes into the nfl with the pedigree to be successful and the same thing with hurst and he scored in the preseason game if you know you're looking at it, that was without Flacco. So I think if you're going to just take swings for the fences, take guys that have upside. All right. If you're going to swing for the fences, do it at Buffalo Wild Wings. It's a great place to be doing your draft.

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Tevin Coleman. He's going in the fifth round. I don't know what number running back it is off the board, but I don't understand mostly the guys that he's going ahead of. He is, you make the case, the best lottery ticket for fantasy owners. He's a proven number two running back on his team that when the starter goes down can be a starter for you but when the starter is there it's just not enough consistent production fantasy wise

to take him in that range there are so many better receivers better running backs it's just you're you're waiting if you're drafting him you're expecting davante freeman to miss time or the roles to be reversed and that's not going to happen yeah he was he just seemed to put up numbers but it wasn't not in a sustainable way you know he just wasn't getting enough touches and then of course three games without davante freeman i think one freeman got hurt on the first series yeah the dallas game i think it was week 10 yep 20 20 and 19 carries for cole it was great so but that i i think if if I did it for the ADP for running backs, that was 35% of his fantasy production, those three games.

So would you take right now Tevin Coleman or Sonny Michel? Coleman. Coleman. You have to. Why? I mean, can we just maybe be overreacting to this Michel injury? We're a month away from the start of the season. He's out maybe 10 days.

Adam, this is – Yeah, but both guys could be backups. Yeah, but – Both guys will be backups at the start of the season. He's out maybe 10 days. Adam, this is – Yeah, but both guys could be backups. Yeah, but – Both guys will be backups at the end of the season. Right. So why would you not take the guy who's going to definitely play? To begin the season, yeah. But Coleman's going to be the backup the entire season if Freeman's healthy.

Okay. So there is a better likelihood that Michelle gets more work than Coleman if the situations stay the same. There is also a better likelihood that if both guys in front of them go down, that Coleman is a better fantasy option. He's going to be the best. I will take Coleman's situation more so than Michelle's situation. Five days ago, I'd take Michelle and Harvey.

I would have too. Here are some guys who are going behind Tevin Coleman. Royce Freeman. Give me Freeman. Mark Ingram. Give me Ingram. I'll take Coleman. Royce Freeman. Dumb. Give me Freeman. Freeman. Mark Ingram. Dumb. Give me Ingram. Dumb.

Ronald. I'll take Coleman. What? Yeah. Why? Why? Because. I don't think Mark Ingram is going to be as good as you.

I think they're both going to be touchdown dependent running backs this year. Why would Mark Ingram be a touchdown dependent running back? Because Alvin Kamara is not going to be a bum. And he's going to end up getting more work than he had last year, and it's going to hurt Mark Ingram, especially for those first five weeks. I don't want to... I like Ingram. I just think, no, five, you've got to factor

in the bye week. Kamara's missing that week, too, obviously. Kamara will be better than him on the bye. I can't use Mark Ingram for five of the first six weeks. He may not use Kevin Coleman, either. He might not. He's touchdown dependent, though. 15 games. I've got two favorite Kevin Coleman sets. We already talked. He's touchdown dependent, though. 15 games. I've got two favorite Tevin Coleman stats. We already talked about the first one.

When he's the starter, 100% success rate in Atlanta. 15 career games with double-digit fancy points. 12 of them he scored a touchdown. Yeah. I don't think Mark Ingram is going to get a lot of 100-yard games. Okay. So where are we? Let's go to Heath.

Heath overdrafted. Your friend, your man crush julian edelman did you see the julian edelman quotes in news just a couple of days ago yeah i confirming your theory about old players with acl injuries he does not have his football legs i've got to be better i mean he's probably gonna be fine he probably just talking, but there's too much risk. He's being drafted as the number 30 wide receiver in non-PPR drafts. That's a steal. No. No. No.

In non-PPR? In non-PPR, he's the number 30 wide receiver. You're not going to have him for the first month of the year. And then we don't know. He's old coming off an ACL injury. He might not be very good. Yeah, but he's also, according to Fantasy Pros, the number 31 wide receiver in PPR.

And that does feel like a steal to me. Both are. I don't know, man. How good is Edelman in non-PPR? My interest in Edelman is almost nothing but PPR. I think he's going to be 70 catches, 900 yards, 5 touchdowns in the close season. Including the 4-game suspension?

In 12 games? Maybe the yards too high. 800. Yeah, that would be a career high in yards per reception. I think he's going to be 61, 674, and 4. 674 touchdowns and 4 fumbles or 674 yards and 4 touchdowns Or 674 yards and 4 touchdowns

674 yards and 4 touchdowns Okay just wanted to clarify Alright so Edelman Not funny Not a funny joke Probably just confusing for everybody You were joking Now they're all mad at me

Dave you actually gave us 2 overdrafted players So the first one is Jarek McKinnon Who's going 19.6th overall. So basically 20th overall. He doesn't feel like a second-round pick. The other one I gave is Devin Funchess, who's at 98th overall. Again, too soon for a guy who's not going to do what he did last year. Okay, let's talk about McKinnon.

And going after McKinnon, we've got, well, I mean, like Michael Thomas and McKinnon going to the same spot. Yeah, you're taking Thomas. And Keenan Allen, Rob Gronkowski, Devontae Adams, A.J. Green. But LeSean McCoy, Jordan Howard, Joe Mixon, are they better than McKinnon? He's in that range. The guy that I've ranked ahead of McKinnon that I'm worried about is Kenyon Drake. The guys that I've ranked behind McKinnon that I think could do better than McKinnon are Joe Mixon, Ronald Jones, Darius Geist, Royce Freeman.

I'd rather have Alex Collins in non-PPR. I would too. Not me. So, I mean, if you look at ADP, it's really about the wide receivers and the tight end that are going after McKinnon and not necessarily so much the running backs. That's kind of my interpretation of it. Look, I like McKinnon a lot. He's not a second-round pick.

Right. You'd love him at 30th overall. I'd take him before that, but yeah. Answer my question. You'd love him at 30th overall. I would love him at 30th overall. 20th overall, but yeah. But you'd love him at 30th overall. I would love him at 30th overall. 20th overall, too soon. Funchess, I believe we spoke a little bit about Funchess last week,

but yeah, 98th overall for Funchess. Where are you comfortable taking him? Like round 11. Okay. So in the 120s. I don't like Funchess, but 97th is where I've got him as my 42nd wide receiver. If you want him, that's about the spot you can take him. I like him lower than that as well.

But again, it's like you're comparing these number four fantasy receivers. He certainly has the potential in an unproven receiving core. Granted, he did not perform as well when Greg Olson was healthy. He's probably going to lose production with DJ Moore there now. So it's risky, but there's not a lot of receivers on the team that can do what he does. Well, Funches is going 25 spots ahead of DJ Moore. Thoughts? I'd rather have Moore.

I'd rather have Anthony Miller. I'd rather have Mike Williams. Yeah, you really hate Devin Funches. Yeah, I'd rather have more. I'd rather have Anthony Miller. I'd rather have Mike Williams. Yeah. Yeah, you really hate Devin Funchess. Yeah. I'd rather have Hearns. Gosh. I'd rather have Hearns.

Somebody's taking the fun out of Funchess. Yeah, that's me. Jamie, I know you have to leave. Give me your underdrafted player. Carry on, Johnson. I think he's going to end up being a starting fantasy running back, especially if he has a couple of good preseason performances. I really do love this offensive line.

I can't say it enough. The reports have been good so far from different national guys that have been there. I think just LeGarrette Blount's going to be in the way. Who knows how long that'll last. I don't worry about Theo Riddick because he's going to do what he does. I think Johnson is their most talented running back. I think that

will show up once the games start to happen. And once he gets his opportunity, look at me falling for a Lions running back. I think he will be better than Javid Best. He will be better than Amir Abdullah. He will be my long lost help. We are setting the bar high. But I do think Kerryon Johnson is going a little

bit too low for what his role should be. TJ Lang said that the best Lions running back in camp so far had been Amir Abdullah. This is the year. This is it. I have two concerns about Kerryon. Number one is, does he get the workload that we want him to have in terms of fantasy production? Well, I mean, if he just replaces Amir Abdullah, that's 200 touches. How many of those touches come at the goal line with LeGarrette Blount there?

Sorry to say? How many of those touches or catches with Theo Riddick there? If you tell me that any running backs can get 200 touches in the 80th overall pick, I'll take that time and time again. I will say. Same thing with Isaiah Crowell, where he's going. I think Kerryon Johnson should go before Sonny Michel. I do, too.

And Tevin Coleman. I don't agree with that. I'd rather have Tevin. Okay. I'd rather have Kerryon Johnson than Tevin Coleman, too. And Tevin Coleman. I don't agree with that. I'd rather have Tevin. Okay. I'd rather have Kerrion Johnson than Tevin Coleman too. The other concern I've got is that Kerrion had a lot of work last year at Auburn. Not sure if he's going to. He's young.

He's got a long track record of injuries, and he had a lot of carries last year. So that was it. That way we're safe on Barkley too. He had a lot of work at Penn State. Did he have a lot of injuries at Penn State? No, but he could have in the NFL. Any of these guys could. Exactly.

But I'll take the guy that A, has the pedigree, and B, hasn't had the track record of injuries. All right. Jamie, feel free to stick around. Or, yeah, you could go. No, Jamie, let's do more HQ stuff, and we are going to get to Dave and Heath's underdrafted players. Underdrafted.

Right, we're on underdrafted. All right, Dave, go for it. I also have two underdrafted players. Underdrafted. Right, we're on underdrafted. All right, Dave, go for it. I also have two underdrafted players, one running back, one wide receiver. The running back is Jordan Wilkins in Indianapolis. And Jamie is the one who was really on Jordan Wilkins first. But I love what I've been reading about how physical he's been in practice. And the Colts have said all along that they want to have a physical run game. And I don't look at Marlon Mack as much of a physical runner.

I think he's fast, but I don't think he's physical. I can't help but wonder if Jordan Wilkins is going to be the guy that ends up leading the team and carries. It might only be 12 per week, but he'll lead them starting week four on. I'm not backing away from what I said about what I expect here in Indianapolis, that they're going to use a bunch of different running backs. I've come up with this little mini draft strategy. Because I love the offensive line and because I love any running back that's playing next to Andrew Luck,

what if you take Marlon Mack and Jordan Wilkins in the same draft? Mack is going, his ADP is probably like round seven, round eight, somewhere in that range. And right now the ADP on Jordan Wilkins is 144th overall. Last pick around 12. Go get him way earlier than that. Might be the sleeper of the summer. Kenny Stills is my underdrafted wide receiver. He's going 134th overall.

He's my favorite Dolphins wide receiver because I like his speed. I like he has 15 touchdowns in the last two seasons. He had nine in a year with Ryan Tannehill starting most of the games. Matt Moore gave him a few touchdowns in the last two seasons he had nine in a year with uh ryan tannell starting most of the games matt moore gave him a few touchdowns late in that season but i'm i'm not buying into davante parker suddenly breaking out danny amandola's in the slot albert wilson isn't gonna be a thing i think kenny stills has a chance to fall into production better than what we've seen from him the past couple of years i don't know if he's scoring nine touchdowns but he had 847 yards last I don't know if he's scored nine touchdowns,

but he had 847 yards last year. Wouldn't surprise me if he had more than that this year. Good bench receiver. Kenny Stills was actually the number 26 wide receiver in non-PPR and somewhere around there 27, 28 in PPR last year. 58, 847, and 6 last year. That was with Cutler. And a career-high 105 105 targets heath who's underdrafted marquise goodwin and i've talked about him quite a bit this preseason i feel like

and it's always been with the yeah but pierre garcon's back pierre garcon's the number one receiver and we're getting more and more talk out of camp marquise goodwin's the number one receiver in san francisco that could still change before the season starts, but that's what everything looks like right now. He has the rapport already built with Jimmy G. Pierre Garcon's behind in that level, and he may be behind a step from what he was last year before he got hurt. Marquise Lee or Kenny Stills?

I said Marquise Goodwin. Marquise Goodwin or Kenny Stills? Marquise Goodwin. Goodwin. Marquise Goodwin or Marquise Leewin or Kenny Stills? Marquise Goodwin. Goodwin. Marquise Goodwin or Marquise Lee? Goodwin. You're in the wrong range. Marquise Goodwin or Michael Crabtree?

Crabtree. I'll go Crabtree there. All right. I'll tell you how I've got them right. This is 35 to 40 in my rankings. Robert Woods, Kelvin Benjamin, Nelson Aguilar, who I also believe is pretty criminally underrated. Goodwin is 38th, Stills 39, Randall Cobb

40th. You've got to move Marquise Goodwin up. He's already been moving up for me. He was way out of this race before. I can't rule out Marquise Goodwin finishing the year with 1,000 yards and five touchdowns. I don't think I'm going to project him. Heath, I don't know what you have him projected for, but I think that could be his ceiling. I don't think I'm going to project him. Heath, I don't know what you have him projected for,

but I think that could be his ceiling, and I don't think it's necessarily unattainable. I've got him for 9, 98, and 6. Can you believe Prisco's got the Jaguars in the Super Bowl? They're not going to the Super Bowl. I think you should do a Twitter poll. This is a good time for a Twitter poll. What is more likely this year?

Jaguars are in the Super Bowl or they miss the playoffs? You know that miss the playoffs is going to win It'll just be interesting to see Okay, I like it And how do I spell? Is that J-A-G-W-I-R-E-S? Yes You caught that right, Dave?

You are just a really funny guy today I missed your humor a lot How was your trip? It was good? Oh, it was fantastic. Oh, I didn't give the shout-outs. I met up with some listeners in Charleston. I had a great time.

The guys at Fatty's Beer Works were awesome. I own a beer works. Fatty's Beer Works. Those guys were fantastic. Mark from We Flew South made the best damn Philly cheesesteak I've ever had in my life. It was ridiculously good. How'd he do it? Now you've got my attention.

He's actually from Jersey. I didn't watch him make it. So I don't know how he did it. He didn't teach you how to do it? He didn't teach me. And then hung out with Chris also at a couple of the different breweries. So it's always good to meet up with listeners. I barbecued yesterday. I made food. I did too. I barbecued. Wait, meet up with listeners i barbecued yesterday i made food i did too wait wait wait yeah yeah you barbecued well i cook outside i defrosted the meat and

brought it outside to my brother-in-law and then he finished the job and barbecued but i was willing to do it was actually our omaha steaks was very good so you carried the meat from the freezer there's a lot of meat. It was like five pounds. And it was like four different trips I made. It was good. Hats off to the chef, right? Did everybody tell you, good job barbecuing at them? Actually, yes.

Then I was like, it wasn't me. Right now the Jaguars, missing the playoffs, have 76% of the vote. Very early on in the poll results. Well, we shall see. All right. We're going to save our emails for tomorrow's show. Unless we do a live mock draft,

which is possible. Quarterback preview on Wednesday, tight end preview on Thursday, recap preseason week one on Friday. And then next week we give you the running back and wide receiver previews. They'll both be two partnersparters. I want to thank Pete Prisco for coming on, for Dave, for Jamie, for Heath. I'm Adam. We'll talk to you on Tuesday.

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