Fantasy Football Today - 08/10: Guice ACL; Preseason Winners; IDP/3-WR Talk (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 10, 2018

Bear with us as we initially react to the Derrius Guice news before we learned about the severity, but we update our thoughts mid-show. First, let's talk about some of Thursday's winners (1:20) including Andrew Luck and the CLE offense. Are David Njoku and Tyrod Taylor set for big Fantasy seasons? Is Heath ready to move Njoku ahead of Hayden Hurst? And find out another sleeper QB that Dave is excited about (5:20) ... News and notes from around the NFL (8:22) including our initial thoughts on Guice which quickly become outdated, Marlon Mack's good game and unfortunate injury (12:30), Kittle's shoulder issues (13:20) and finally our updated reaction to Guice's season-ending injury (18:50) ... More preseason thoughts (15:40) including Nick Vannett, Christian McCaffrey and Joe Mixon, RB battles, rookie WRs and anything else you may have missed ... Chris Harris of HarrisFootball.com joins the show to talk IDP (30:00)! Which individual defensive players need to be drafted and how early should they be taken? Does league depth matter? We also talk about 3-WR leagues and answer a bunch of your questions ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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First carry as a professional. 39 yards into the Hall of Fame and into the first round of fantasy drafts. Oh, what a start to the preseason. Welcome, everybody. I could have done a Nick Vanette intro, but I just thought Saquon Barkley was more fantasy relevant. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Heath Cummings. Once again, Jamie Eisenberg out. He'll be back on Monday. We've got a special guest, Chris Harris, coming on. Not the cornerback, the fantasy analyst. Chris Harris coming on later in the show to talk IDP, three-receiver league, PPR. It was fun. It was awesome.

That's coming up in about a half hour. Dave and Heath, how did you enjoy Thursday night? It was fun, huh? It's always great to have football back, even if it is lousy preseason football. I agree. I enjoyed it, and there were more actionable things than I expected. Yeah, I don't want to sit here and start going crazy and overreacting, but we got some talking points, that's for sure, and we'll see where it goes.

Heath, the biggest preseason winner so far is who well i would say it's all of fantasy football because andrew luck is back he took a shot he threw passes he got back up after he got hit i i don't know what else we could ask for i went ahead and ranked him like he's andrew luck once again which is where number three at quarterback. Ooh, you are now officially the high man on Andrew Luck. Yeah, that's pretty.

Don't you want to see Andrew Luck throw the ball downfield though? Because he didn't do that. He just kind of, kind of dinked and dunked and intermediate routed it. They said that they got to work on the downfield stuff right now. He's more comfortable with the intermediate throws. You know, I think it was maybe two podcasts ago we were talking about how I left Tom Brady at two

because there was nobody I wanted to rank number two. When I went back and started, like I didn't project Andrew Luck to be what he was the year he was the number one quarterback in fantasy, but I got him back up to a 5% touchdown rate, back up to 7.4 yards per attempt, and he landed at number three in the projections. All right.

By the way, you can hear Heath. Heath's working from home today, so apologize if there's any audio issues, but Heath's working from home. Dave, biggest preseason winner so far is? Anybody that takes on the Miami Dolphins this year. Their defense did not get off to a very good start. The Bucs scored on three of their first four drives. All of those four drives went for at least 30 yards.

And, yeah, I think Tampa Bay's offense will be pretty good. I don't think it will be amazing. But I do think the Dolphins have a lot of issues all over the place on defense. And, yeah, week one they're taking on Tennessee. Thought the Titans' offense looked good against Green Bay, at least the starters. They could be in for a rocking good time at Hard Rock Stadium week one. Taking on Tennessee. Thought the Titans offense looked good against Green Bay, at least the starters. They could be in for a rockin' good time at Hard Rock Stadium week one. I feel like I'm questioning my Tyrod Taylor thoughts right now.

Based on two preseason drives against what was arguably the worst defense in football last year and should be better this year but i don't think it's going to be good the giants but tyra taylor looks really good we know he's got the best weapons he's ever had he and that was without josh gordon playing but he made a really good throw to jarvis landry made a really good throw a really good catch on janoris jenkins he made a great uh to David Njoku, who caught two touchdowns yesterday. Brown's offense, let's call them a winner. And not even talking

about Baker Mayfield, but Brown's offense, guys, a winner yesterday. Absolutely. I agree. Without a doubt. Tyrod Taylor looked comfortable in that offense. He has a good offensive coordinator in Todd Haley. He has good weapons.

I think there's a chance he's a borderline starter for as long as he gets to be the starter. And as good as Baker Mayfield was, that team looked like it might even be competitive. They can stay in that wildcard race. We might not see Baker Mayfield for some time. It's just hard to believe that the Cleveland Browns would be in a a wild card race or even dare i say it gasp the afc north division race now that might be a big overreaction but but you know you're right tyrod taylor looked comfortable he made a great throw to jarvis landry had another great throw to richard higgins and then of course the touchdown to david nojoku i i think that I think that was more tie rod than it was Njoku.

He's at the helm of a very interesting offense. I'm not ready to say that the play calling was great last night because there are a lot of other questionable things that they did. But this is an offense with a lot of talent, a good offensive line, a mobile quarterback. You think about how nice he looked on thursday just imagine what would happen if he had josh gordon or des bryant or josh gordon and des bryant holy moly tyrod taylor could end up being he's he's one of he's one of two quarterbacks from thursday that i'm

feeling a lot better about who is is the other? Andy Dalton. I like the direction the Bengals are going on offense. I can get into that a little later. So Tyrod Taylor, 18th for Heath, 27th for Dave, 24th for Jamie. In 2015 and 16, he was right around number 16 quarterback in fantasy. He did not play 16 games. He played, I think, 14 or 15 in both those seasons. Good, but never great. Maybe potential for more this year.

And I think, Dave, you know, we did the tight end preview yesterday and you called David Njoku a bust. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't call him a bust. I called him a beast. Oh! You didn't hear that. You must have missed it. No, no, no. I'm just kidding around. We can get into Njoku now or later if you want.

Yeah, look out for it right now. Two touchdowns. The first touchdown, look, he's got great straight line speed for a guy his size. That I think we all knew. But I still think that ball placement, the fact that he was lined up against Alec Ogletree, that's why that touchdown happened. I was more impressed with the second touchdown. He was double covered.

Baker Mayfield threw it high in the red zone. He le up he caught it he came down with it that's the type of play that i would expect to see from a breakout tight end actually both plays you gotta hand it to him they're both the type of plays you'd want to see from a breakout tight end i've watched other snaps of his and i feel like his route running isn't refined yet i know he'll drop the ball every now and again. Not saying you shouldn't draft him because the guy that I loved as a sleeper got hurt. That would be George Kittle. Njoku is definitely worth drafting. I just wonder how many games he'll have.

We talked about this with Kyle Rudolph on Thursday. How many games will Njoku have with more than 70 yards receiving this year? Well, but there aren't that many tight ends that are going to do that. No, there aren't. And there aren't a lot of tight ends that can score week in and week out, and I don't know if Njoku's going to do that either. Nobody can score week in and week out, but the question is, can Njoku, you know, be a top 10 tight end?

I mean, Cameron Bray was top 10 tight end last year, so Heath, you have Njoku 10th. And Dave, you have him 12th. Jamie's the low guy at 17. So, Heath, you're the high guy in everyone today. Andy Dalton, or not Dalton. Tyra Taylor. Yeah, but there was another guy I was looking at.

Andrew Luck. Yeah, okay, right. Luck, Taylor, and Dave Njoku. So 10th for you for Njoku. Well, one of the things we said during the tight end preview, I said there were nine tight ends that I felt comfortable starting on a week-to-week basis, and there's a chance that Njoku could break into that group. I'm not going to say that he's there yet, but he certainly has as much upside,

other than the injury guys like Jordan Reed and Tyler Eifert as anybody outside of the top nine. Okay. So you have Njoku one spot ahead of Hayden Hurst. It hurt. It hurt to do that, and I left Hurst ahead of him in PPR because I do think Hurst will get more targets. Okay. We got some big news, and we'll get back to the games.

We got some emails to read. Big show today, actually. Should be fun. Darius Geis has a sprained MCL, Heath, and he could miss some time. What's your read now on the Redskins running backs? I still think he's the guy, even missing some

important camp time for a rookie running back once he's 100%. I think the most likely outcome is he is fine for week one, but there has to be a little bit of a downgrade here. It's not as severe as Sonny Michel because Rex Burkhead's not there to just carry the load while they make sure he's ready.

But I dropped Geist in my rankings. Listen, there was another rookie running back. I thought you were going to ask about my biggest loser that I was going to talk about. I actually dropped him below Ronald Jones, who, despite not getting hurt, had a pretty disastrous first preseason game. Oh yeah, so why is Ronald Jones of, had a pretty disastrous first preseason game. Oh, yeah.

So why is Ronald Jones of Tampa Bay a loser for you? It was really about as bad. He had one good run for a touchdown. He had eight carries for nine yards. He got one target, and he dropped it. And that also kind of leaves out the fact that all of that work came after the starters were gone, because Peyton Barber was the running back running with the ones. So how much should we make of that?

Because Rob Kelly actually got the first two carries for the Redskins and then Geis got the next four. Yeah, as you mentioned, Peyton Barber started for Tampa Bay. How much should we make of that? He's a rookie. It's preseason week one. Maybe they just didn't want to give him that role just yet. Chris Carson got to start over Rashad Penny.

So, you know, what are you thinking? I think that's probably the case, that they just didn't want to do that yet. I don't know that his performance in this game, averaging one yard per carry and dropping his only target, is going to change that fact. Dave, do you think Geis or Ronald Jones can be counted on as number two running backs right now? Yes, I think they both will be able to. I'm starting to get a little nervous about Ronald Jones because of the whole Peyton Barber issue,

and I thought Barber actually played pretty well. The reason why these rookies aren't starting is so they're motivated to play well, and then they start. The only one that won't do that is saquon because he was taken so early in the nfl draft right and if jones is going to average under four yards per carry much less under two yards per carry yeah peyton parver is going to keep that job and my visions of ronald jones running away with this backfield will quickly dissipate that would also though if that continues during the preseason it'll also lower his value in adp and maybe you're talking about getting him in round seven and he's the rookie running back that you end up being patient with and you need to draft him to be your number three

or your number four guy i look at geist a little bit differently this brand mcl could almost be a blessing in disguise we're not going to see him anymore i would assume not anymore this preseason but if you see the run where he got hurt it's a 34 yard gainer he makes a great cut runs hard has speed is physical he just gets tackled awkwardly or he planted his foot awkwardly and that might have sprained the mcl i wouldn't get too scared off from geis's injury because i think now the redskins know, all right, this guy, he's powerful when he runs. He'll get you that extra yard when he falls forward. And he's also capable of making those bigger runs, those 20 plus yard explosive runs. They need that badly in their backfield. I don't know how I feel about taking him in round four at this moment in

time, but I know if I see Darius Geis' name in round five, I'm all over it. I was all prepared to talk about Marlon Mack as a winner because I know his yards per carry wasn't great, but I thought Marlon Mack looked pretty good. He was good in the passing game. He was clearly the number one guy. There is a chance that he, based on the snaps, based on what happened in the game,

that Robert Turbin is their short yardage guy. But I thought Mack looked good, but he left with a hamstring injury. I saw it happen, and I tweeted it out, and I'm just getting nervous about Marlon Mack not being strong enough to play as that bell cow back, that 15-plus touch back that the Colts were talking him up as. So what does that mean for you on draft day with Mack? I've already got him plenty low in my rankings.

I'm not that excited to take him. Okay. Heath, how about you? Where are you now? Do we have to wait to see the severity of the injury? Yeah, I thought it was a mixed bag. I agree with you that he looked good. I love the fact the first play was a pass to him that went for 17 yards.

But the injury pretty much makes that a moot point until we know how serious it is. So I still think he's a borderline number two running back. But I can't feel better right now, like, even about Geis than I do about Mack. I thought it was interesting that Turbin got, you know, kind of the second teamwork. You know, he's suspended for four games. We've talked about Indianapolis running backs a lot. We've never talked about Turbin, kind of the second team work. He's suspended for four games. We've talked about Indianapolis running backs a lot. We've never talked about Turbin, really, rarely. He's out the first four weeks, so I don't think anybody's drafting him.

So no clarity there. We'll wait and see an update. And George Kittle, that was the sleeper that Dave – so Dave's sleeper gets hurt, and Dave's bust scores two touchdowns. It's a bummer on George Kittle. Yeah, it sounds like there's no structural damage. So we'll just have to wait and see. Does he miss a couple of weeks?

Does he miss the rest of the preseason? Who knows? The 49ers are just going to have to keep us updated. Any interest in Garrett Selleck? Only if Kittle's out for the year. Matt Breida's going to miss time with a shoulder injury. That can't be a bad thing for Jarek McKinnon, but we've got to report

that speculation from an ESPN writer, Dan Graziano, that Heath McKinnon, he doesn't expect McKinnon to be a bell cow running back. I don't think that should be a surprise to anyone. I kind of viewed this like a Devontae Freeman, Tevin Coleman situation. Devontae Freeman would be a lot better if Tevin Coleman missed time.

So that may be the situation we're looking at here. Des Bryant could be interested in Cleveland, although they look pretty good at wide receiver right now. Callaway with a brilliant preseason debut. And Carson Wentz is, as we mentioned several times on our quarterback preview, probably going to be held out of all preseason games. And neither he nor Nick Foles played yesterday. So I have, let's see, a couple things before we get to Chris Harris and our IDP draft. I got some fun emails and some more preseason recap. But first, I got to talk to you about SeatGeek.

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Let's do it. Mick Vanette, tight end for the Seattle Seahawks. And Ed Dixon was out. Doug Baldwin was out. But Vanette was very involved in Russell Wilson's time, and Vanette caught a touchdown. Two for 20 and a touchdown on three targets. What are we thinking here?

Is he going to be fantasy relevant? I don't think so. I think it's Ed Dixon's job as long as he's healthy. I wouldn't be surprised if Vanette has the job, but I think he's going to be very much a touchdown or bust type of tight end and probably the one who will score about five times. So if you're so clear of what I think, you can pick out the five times over the course of the season where Vanette will score. Go ahead and put him on your team.

So Chris Carson, should we be drafting him ahead of Rashad Penny? I think everybody wants to But everybody also knows That the investment that the Seahawks Made in Penny Combined with the fact that Carson For as exciting as he is to watch He's never had sustained success

In the NFL I think you hesitate And I think it almost makes sense to say Eventually Penny will get this job. In the meantime, Carson's going to take this job. And by the way, this is a Seattle run game where they've got some nice, powerful running backs, but the offensive line still leaves a lot to be desired. So I'm going to ask you both to rank four running backs.

Penny, Geis, Ronald Jones, Chris Carson. Penny, Geis, Jones, Carson, Heath. I will go, as of right now, Jones, Penny, Geis, Carson. I'm going to go Jones, Geis, Penny, Carson. Okay. That's Colts and Seahawks. Anything else from that game? Eric Ebron didn't do much

And there was speculation after the game I actually had a conversation on Twitter With a beat reporter from the Colts He thinks they're hiding him He thinks that they're just purposely not Trying to lean too much on him He was blocking in the game That was a surprise

We got two more games of Eric Ebron playing. I don't think he'll play in the fourth preseason game. Let's see if they keep hiding him or if they actually let him loose. Alright, Giants and Browns. Cleveland 20, Giants 10. Saquon Barkley, his first run was 39 yards. It was very impressive. Jarvis Landry made that good catch.

I think the storyline maybe that won't get covered here is Nick Chubb had a terrible game. Carlos Hyde got the first carry, but Nick Chubb, 15 carries for 11 yards. Heath, does this matter to you? I thought, like, it doesn't really because of when he was in the game. The thing that was interesting to me was Hyde got the first three carries and then never saw the field again. That doesn't seem to me like what would happen if this was some sort of competition. Right. Right. Yeah.

I thought the same way. So we got to stop talking about this game and all others because we, 19 minutes into the show, just got breaking news that Darius Geist reportedly tore his ACL. Ugh. We're hearing it from the Washington Post and NFL Network.

That sucks. I'm that sucks. I mean, I don't have a personal investment in this. I don't have guys on any of my teams. I think I only have two teams as of right now. But that sucks. I mean, that is really disappointing. And oh, man, fantasy impact, Dave, for the Redskins running backs now. Rob Kelly lost some weight

So I'm sure they're hoping that he ends up Being I guess The next man up As effective as he was early on Last season I believe early on he was Okay I can't remember off the top of my head Kind of wrote him off as soon as they Drafted Darius Geis

I would suspect That Washington will be in the market for another running back pretty quickly here. I don't think P. Ryan's the answer. I think Kelly is the answer if you're playing DFS next week in the preseason. This is not good for Washington all the way around. Chris Thompson said he wasn't feeling 100%. There's no chance they're going to use him more.

Fluid situation, TBD. feeling 100 there's no chance they're going to use him more uh fluid situation tbd yeah i i'm gonna assume for the time being and project skinny rob kelly as the uh as a starting running back for the washington redskins this is going to be a committee approach i would say that both he and p ryan will get some work on early downs ch Chris Thompson will be the passing downs guy. I'm not sure what's out there. There was some talk that they may be looking to try to deal P. Ryan. I don't know what they would get for him.

I think you have to really bump Rob Kelly way up in the rankings. Yeah. Rob Kelly or... Into the rankings. Yeah. Would you take Rob Kelly or would you take a Colts running back? A Colts running back. Mac.

Mac. Okay. Well, I'm not ready. I'm not ready to invest heavy in Kelly because I think Washington's going to make another move here. Yeah. I don't know who,

who trying to think of who is available or who that they might be able to get. DeMarco, you ready to come out of retirement? I don't know if that's going to be the right answer either. First of all, I think they can probably wait until cut-down day to find somebody that's dropped. But maybe New Orleans and New England, off the top of my head, two teams that love to trade and two teams that have some nice depth

at running back. There's a chance that maybe they go in that direction. Kansas City's got some depth at running back. There's a chance that maybe they go in that direction. Kansas City's got some depth at running back, and Alex Smith might have some intel on those guys. I'm doing a quick scan of everybody's depth charts around the NFL. Don't worry about it. We'll react to it when the news happens. Let's talk more about preseason because, you know, no use inspecting.

They might have a guy in Byron Marshall that they could give. But are any of them going to be better than Rob Kelly? I mean, I feel like Kelly's set up to be a starter. For now, he is. But if he can't hold his end of the bargain, they're going to move on to somebody else. Capri Bibbs is on their roster. Okay. Rob Kelly has done some things in the NFL.

Let's not go Capri Bibbs on him. Rob Kelly had 12 rushing touchdowns in 2016. He had a bad year last year. He's a thing now. I'm doing a draft with Jamie tomorrow in the Flex League, and I know he's going to get drafted, Rob Kelly. And P. Ryan might get drafted as well. So we'll see. Alright, guys. So listen, we're running out of time

a little bit before Chris comes on the show to talk IDP. So let's go through the rest of preseason football here from Thursday night. I'll just give my thoughts, sorry to speed things along. I don't think I'm going to miss anything too big. If I do, you let me know. Joe Mixon and Christian McCaffrey, arrow pointing up for both of them, I'd say, especially McCaffrey, in my opinion. CJ Anderson was not really in the picture at the beginning of the game. McCaffrey got a short yardage touchdown run, a two-yard touchdown run, I believe.

I thought he was great. Mixon had that gorgeous touchdown catch. Thoughts, Heath? I agree 100%. I'm going to bump McCaffrey up just a little bit. I already bumped Mixon up a little bit. The only other thing from that Carolina game, I think DJ Moore may already be the best receiver on the Panthers.

Yeah, I mean, he did it late in the game, right? He had a little involvement early. DJ Moore may already be the best receiver on the Panthers. Yeah, I mean, he did it late in the game, right? But, boy, you saw his quickness. He had a little involvement early. On that one move he made, DJ Moore, you saw his quickness. They compare him to Steve Smith, and you saw why on that play. See, I didn't really know if there was much from the Jacksonville-New Orleans game, but, Dave, what did you think of the slimmed-down Leonard Fournette? I didn't think he was as effective as I remember him being.

He didn't seem as fast as I remember him being, but he's certainly still going to get the workload all over the place and catch passes in that offense. So I'm not worried about him making a muted first impression. I think DJ Chark is someone that we're still going to have to keep eyes on, but it looks like it's a crowded receiving court. That's a team that might have one too many receivers. Maybe they make a trade at the cut-down day

to get somebody else in there. On the other side of the ball for New Orleans, I thought the Saints kept running the ball real well. Jonathan Williams had a touchdown. Mark Ingram had a touchdown. Kamara played a little bit at the very beginning. This is a team that I think is starting to find their groove already

as a proud running squad. Taysom Hill, too. I mean, I don't know if he's relevant for the first four games. Washington's interested. Yeah, maybe. Tampa Bay and Miami, no Frank Gore, very little Kenyon Drake. Kalen Balazs actually looked pretty good. Maybe if there are some injuries, he could become relevant.

We hope not, but maybe. Forget that game. Pittsburgh 31, Philadelphia 14. Not much here except Jay Ajayi had the first two, Clement the second two, Jay Ajayi the next two, and then Ajayi was out. And, hey, Juju Smith-Schuster Heath, 71-yard touchdown. Yeah, that's what Juju Smith-Schuster does. Any concerns that Dallas Goddard could affect Zach Ertz negatively?

Not really. Not yet. All right. Joe Flacco threw seven pass attempts in Baltimore's 33-7 win over the Rams. Three of them went to Michael Crabtree, and two of them to Buck Allen. The first one was to Aiden Hurst. These are just the attempts, not the completions. I don't think there was much from this game.

Lamar Jackson's touchdown run was awesome. There was an IDP note from that game. The broadcasters mentioned Baltimore's Matt Judon, who had eight sacks last year. They think he could have a big breakout year entering his third season. Keep an eye on Matt Judon. He had two tackles in the game. Yeah, and he forced two fumbles last year, entering his third season. Keep an eye on Matt Judon, J-U-D-O-N. He had two tackles in the game. Yeah, and he forced two fumbles last year too. Anything from Green Bay, Tennessee?

Yeah, Jamal Williams had every snap at running back for the Packers. There was no Aaron Jones in the game. Ty Montgomery did not get in there, not even on third downs. And Williams caught a touchdown. He pulled a Joe Mixon, caught a short pass from his quarterback. It was Brett Hundley, not Aaron Rodgers. Made a defender miss, dove into the end zone for a touchdown he pulled the joe mixon caught a short pass from his quarterback it was brett humley not aaron rogers made a defender miss dove into the end zone for a touchdown it's it's funny how these young second year players are getting these opportunities and showing off their skills and and i think the packers are really getting into williams and the fact that he's a physical

type of running back james lofton was calling the game james works for cbs but he was calling this game uh for the wisconsin audience and he was just raving about what he's seen from williams and he thinks that williams is going to be a big time player his adp is pretty low people are still afraid to take him i really like the idea of getting jamal williams maybe round six getting aaron jones later. I'm not worried about Ty Montgomery. I think his role is set as third down guy and certainly not goal line guy. I think that'll suit Williams better. I like that combo, especially with Aaron Rodgers healthy, expected to play 16 games. Not a bad idea to have a Packers running back on your squad.

And Heath, you had Michael Gallup with a 30-yard touchdown catch and the aforementioned DJ Moore. Who do you have ranked ahead, Gallup or Moore, at this point? You know, I just updated that today. I did move Gallup up in my rankings a little bit. Not much of a change yet for Moore, so I need to check that. I think maybe, and I'm going to write about the friendship strategy, Alan Hearns and Michael Gallup might be the best combination for the friendship strategy. I thought Gallup was great.

The touchdown, it was an interesting play. Dak threw a bomb. Gallup sped forward. Either he sped forward or the defensive back slowed down. I think it was on the defensive back. I think it was Jimmy Ward who was covering him. I'm sorry if that's not right. But Gallup catches it, scores, easy play.

Gallup would have had another big play, maybe even a long touchdown, if Cooper Rush had thrown a better ball on his second target. He also had an end zone target. And just the route that he was assigned on the play was to go to the back corner. Before they set the ball, Gallup was alone. The Niners weren't even covering him. It would have been the easiest touchdown in the history of preseason football. A defender eventually came over, and then the ball flew over Gallup's head.

I think he's earned himself more playing time with the starters. It would not surprise me. If you're drafting this weekend, put Michael Gallup on your late-round list. His ADP is going to go up. And if you're not drafting this weekend but you want to be drafting this weekend, why don't you get yourself the Draft app and play some best ball on the Draft app. Actually, Heath posted a 12-person draft on the Draft app yesterday, and I went to join it, and within like 30 seconds it was filled up.

How was that draft, Heath? It was awesome. I'm going to try to do those on a pretty regular basis, probably two or three of them next week. And I'll just send out the invites and get in as quick as you can. Yeah, follow him. He's CBS Heath. I am BigCane2 on the Draft App.

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We'll let you go. Thank you very much, guys. Look forward to talking about Friday and Saturday's preseason games with everybody on Monday. Yeah, Dave is being summoned to the HQ set to talk about Darius Geis. We will lose one analyst. We will gain another as we bring in Chris Harris. So, Heath, a couple days ago, you and I took part in a 12-team PPR, three-receiver IDP, individual defensive player draft.

How did you do? What kind of grade did you get when you got the email from CBS Sports and they gave you a grade? Do you remember what you got? I know it wasn't as good as your grade. I believe it was somewhere in the B or C range, but I was no Adam Azer in that draft. You're not putting that one on the fridge, but I got an A+, baby. Maybe

my first one ever. A+. And you know who else was in that? Chris Harris of HarrisFootball.com. Are you impressed with my A+, Chris, or am I the only one? The best part about it is you texted me like right away. I got an A+.

I got an A-plus in that draft. I was like, I love you, Adam. Well, most people don't say that. But, yeah, I was excited. I'm pretty excited about the team. I don't have Darius Geis. But I'm also excited to have Chris on. We have him on to talk IDP every year now.

First of all, Chris, tell everybody how they can follow you how they can find your advice yeah uh harrisfootball.com is is where everything is i just started so i have the podcast the competing podcast we are blood rivals oh yeah oh yeah uh even you know even though we're not and um so that you know i have a podcast every weekday, and I started a YouTube channel, which is original content, so it's not a simulcast of the podcast. It's me breaking down film, actually showing you film of what I see on players, which you can find at youtube.com slash harrisfootball.

Yeah, very good stuff. And you've got an almanac that you publish. Just a great podcast, great resource, and we're happy to have you on. Thanks. So this is an interesting draft. It's got a lot of nuance. One, it's 12 teams.

Two, it's IDP, but it's like it's so many defensive players. It's two defensive linemen, three linebackers, three defensive backs, and then one defensive flex. It's also three receivers.

It's also PPR, and there's an offensive flex so all said and done there's 10 bench spots there's 28 rounds it's a pretty deep league so that gives us a lot of angles chris to talk about of how you draft this uh how you go about approaching a deep idp league how do you go about approaching a deep idp league i almost so i so I've done this in the third year. I think I've been in this league and I've never been the first one to take a defensive player. I believe the gentleman who we're speaking to may have been the first one to take a defensive player.

I'm not sure I'm right about that. Yeah. Yeah. I think you did. Did you take JJ Watt? Heath? I think Wagner. I did take JJ Watt.

He was not the first defensive player. Pretty sure Luke Keekly was, and I didn't get him. Oh, but Wagner, I thought maybe, maybe Keekly went before Wagneragner you got wagner also you're right you're right gary davenport from roto world got keekly but you took wagner and and watt in sit round seven and eight and i guess my point being i that's usually earlier than i go for even even in a scarce league

like this i think the earliest i would go is like round 10 or round 11. But this is such a non-traditional IDP league in that there is actual scarcity. I mean, that's the problem with your typical IDP league, right? If everybody's starting three defensive players and there's no scarcity, it's like drafting a quarterback. You might as well just wait till the end

because there's just not that much difference in a week-to-week basis among the defensive linebackers. They're all going to get eight tackles. That's sort of the way it is. But this is cool because you can zig when everybody else is zagging. You can go early, as early apparently as round six,

or you can go later like me. So I'm going to still be the one who tends to wait. I still don't find it to be enough difference among the stars and the middle guys, especially a linebacker, but I wouldn't

look down my nose at the people who go earlier on defensive players. Yeah, so Heath, you went early on defensive players, and what did you take, round seven and round eight? You took Bobby Wagner and J.J. Watt. I'm sorry, I did not notice that Keekly went off the board before that in round six. So yeah, you did pull the trigger a little bit earlier. You took two guys in round seven and eight how come well and i think like i kind of agree in fact i totally agree with what chris said in the more scarce leagues there's just no chance

that i'm going to do this this one is a little bit deeper now i've got a couple of idp leagues that are deeper than this where you have to start corners and defensive tackles and stuff like that but i do think there will be a pretty big advantage to having the consistent tackles out of your linebackers and jj watt is a terrible player to decide what you're going to do with in an idp draft this year because i'm pretty sure three years ago when chris harris and I think that was my first one as well, J.J. Watt might have been like a third-round pick. And J.J. Watt might have also been the highest-scoring player in that league regardless of position. So he's an injury risk, but I don't think he has a ton less upside than he had that year. So I was actually wondering, guys, if it made more sense to take an IDP earlier

when you're not starting that many individual defensive players because they have more of an impact on your team. I mean, in this league, there are so many players being started that one defensive player probably doesn't make that much of a difference. But if I were playing in a shallower league with only three IDPs, let's say it wasn't three receivers, I thought maybe having an elite defensive player would have more of an impact on my team and it would make sense to reach a little bit earlier.

But Chris, it doesn't sound like you see things that way. No, it's sort of the same argument why we wait on quarterback. Even though the the defensive players like for example watt might have a high raw point total but relative to the other really good performers and maybe even not as good performers at the position you're not getting that you're not getting marginal advantage by owning the superstar which is the exact reason why we don't draft quarterbacks early in a league where they're not scarce. Because fine, Aaron Rodgers is going to score more points than Matthew Stafford, but not

so many more points that I shouldn't just wait for Stafford in the 10th round as opposed to taking Rodgers in third. And really, what it becomes is about scarcity. The problem that we've all understood in this league over the course of our lives in this league is when someone goes out or you have a bye or somebody is out for the year, the replacement level players available in a league like this among IDP players are horrendous. Whereas in a league where you're only starting two or three or four defensive players, there are still going to be stars on the waiver wire. And they're all the same, too. You go to the waiver wire and you're looking at guys. You'll probably find some gems throughout the year, but they're pretty similar.

So, yeah, I focus more on my offensive players. I mean, that's just – also, if one of your running backs is out for the year and you're looking at the waiver wire in a 28-round league, even though there are – we're starting we're starting 10 IDP, right? But the bottom line is the waiver wire sucks. The waiver wire sucks. So I made sure that I had running back depth. I focused more on running back depth rather than IDP because I know throughout the year

when there are bye weeks and there are injuries, I can't just go to the waiver wire and pick up a running back. Everybody's owned. It's just a deep league. So it's all about your league depth. I mean, that's very important no matter what. Three receiver league, and I apologize for bungling that explanation I got thrown off. Three receiver league, Keith,

I didn't see much of a difference in the way we drafted. By the way, the results are available on the website for this draft, our IDP draft. I didn't see receivers get pushed up that much. Did you? No, I thought they fell, in fact. I had the 10th pick in this draft and i started with the andre hopkins and michael thomas yeah and i'm just going to do that every

single time and maybe it won't work out maybe especially in a league like this where i do think it's important to have running backs to win in fantasy football your two starting running backs when you can start the four receivers and you have the 10 defensive players, your two running backs aren't going to make as big of an impact in this league as they are in a normal league. But in a normal three receiver league, Heath,

I would typically recommend people expecting receivers to go earlier. You're going to look at the results of this draft. I don't think it's very typical. I was surprised at the receiver value in this draft. I was pleasantly surprised. Yeah, they usually go a little bit earlier. Chris, do you prioritize receivers more in three receiver leagues?

I'll say maybe. I mean, this is such a sharp league. This is like 12 Sharks, basically. 11 and me. 11 and you. You got the A+. I did get the A+. Yeah, 11, you, and A+.

Well, maybe that's why you got the A+. Well, just give them the A+. Yeah. Like when I see the number of running backs go that they went, I believe the first nine picks, eight of them were running backs. This is in a PPR league, in a league where we're starting three receivers. I kind of go, yeah, I think the sharp thing here was still to take the elite

running backs, but Heath has a point. There comes a point where they're no longer elite, and now you're taking Melvin Gordon and Kareem Hunt, who I don't necessarily think are... I think they're first-round picks in most formats, and probably here too, but I think i'd have taken a receiver over those two guys too so maybe it reached a point where fine those first six

seven picks can be running backs or running backs and antonio brown but yeah i'm sort of with heath i'm just sort of was surprised he didn't take beckham over hopkins but that's another story oh go ahead heath beckham over hopkins not for you well yeah i don't i don't think i think chris is the one that needs to explain why he's surprised i took beckham over hopkins i'm pretty sure the hopkins over beckham is the normal thing yeah i'll just go back to a couple years ago when deandre hopkins was a sure thing and i go yeah every time i've seen odell beckham play i'm pretty sure he's been awesome and every time i've seen deandre hopkins sometimes he's i mean i haven't i have hopkins four i just would say i would take beckham over hopkins every time i was

that was a little bit where a moment where i went hmm interesting yeah i i feel good about hopkins as long as they don't sign brock osweiler to be the backup or brandon brandon whedon plays or maybe they could trade for brian hoyer yeah so Actually, when you look at the results, it's Gurley, Johnson, Bell, Zeke, and then I took Antonio Brown with the fifth pick. I was prepared to take Ezekiel Elliott. I'm glad I didn't have to take David Johnson who went second because I still have some concerns about the offense. They lost their center.

Their offense is going to stink. Where are you on David Johnson, Chris? I'll ask you that first. I'm fine with him. I think in the end, we don't know. I think you just take the really elite talent and you just assume it works out. I've seen enough great players on bad

teams. LeSean McCoy last year do what great players are supposed to do. Actually, I know that Scott Fish, who took David Johnson number two, he actually said in the room, I'm passing up on Le'Veon Bell because I own him in too many other leagues. So I think his sense was to take Bell also.

And I was picking third, so I benefited because I wanted Bell. I would take Bell one overall. Oh, yeah, you got lucky. So Zeke four, and then I took Antonio Brown. Then it was Barkley, Kamara, Hunt, Gordon, and then Hopkins. And the running backs after that were Cook and Fournette and Freeman. And I think what's interesting, Heath,

maybe why all these running backs went ahead of Hopkins is I would guess that everybody thinks that Gurley, Johnson, Bell, Kamara, Hunt, Gordon, and Barkley are going to catch 50 or more passes. Not necessarily Zeke, but he makes up for it in other ways. He could score 50 touchdowns. Then after that, that's a joke, Dalvin Cook, Leonard Fournette, I think maybe that's where people see a downgrade in pass-catching ability for these running backs. Do you think maybe, is that a read on it? An accurate

read on it? I think that everybody is just thirsty for running backs. Yeah. That is the main thing here, and I am just, I mean, it's typical me. I am just now taking the receivers because everybody else is taking the running backs.

So who are your running backs? I've got seven of them, I believe. I've just now taking the receivers because everybody else is taking the running backs. So who are your running backs? Who are your running backs? I've got seven of them, I believe. I've got Rex Burkhead. I have Marlon Mack. I have Gio Bernard. I have CJ Anderson. I have Austin Eckler. And I have Buck Allen. That's rough. It's not a good running back core, but I don't know how much it's really going to matter. And this is going to sound like extremely – I don't even know the right word for it.

But I've got DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Tyreek Hill, Zach Ertz, Drew Brees, and Robbie Anderson. I don't know – I don't have to get good production out of my running backs. Oh, yeah. Sounds like 2017. I don't know. I don't have to get good production out of my running backs. Oh, yeah. Sounds like 2017. I don't know. I don't know. No, it does. I mean, this is exactly what everybody last year was saying.

Go 0RB. Go 0RB. It didn't work out. So now people are zigging too hard the other way. I think the best thing you can take away from what Heath is saying is just, especially if you're picking 10, don't feel slave to a strategy. Look at what the first nine picks do, and you can make it work, and Heath made it work.

Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think Burkhead and Mack, you've got a really good opportunity there. Hoping that Mack is back quickly. I hope we don't get any ACL news on him before this episode ends. Like we did with Justin. All right, so to wrap up, in case anybody was specifically looking for more IDP talk, to wrap it up, Chris, who are the top few IDP guys, the first ones who should come off the board? You know, if they're defensive tackles, it's Watt, it's Bosa, it's Chandler Jones, it's Calais Campbell. It's kind of the usual suspects, I would say. And again, I'm not sure that in a lot of standard ADP leagues, I want those guys because you typically have to pay for them

more than I think you maybe should. At linebacker, I think it's Deion Jones. I actually like Alec Ogletree. He was the first defensive player I took in this draft, I think in round 10 or so, with the Giants now. I just feel like finally there's a middle linebacker with the Giants who can tackle. CJ Mosley is probably in that group. And for defensive backs, you're thinking safeties.

You're not thinking corners. So your Landon Collins is in your Keanu Neals. And I think I took both Rashad Jones and Harrison Smith in that league when I started to pay for defensive players just because I feel like, again, there's just a ton of tackles for the Dolphins and Vikings, respectively. I drafted Roquan Smith. I have high hopes for him if he can get going with the Bears. Any other rookies? I saw Derwin James was drafted. Any rookies, Chris, that you think could have a big impact this year? Did I just name the two?

Yeah, those are the ones that I had in mind when I could tell you were about to ask that question. And Roquan Smith's not even signed yet, so there's that. But I assume at some point, doesn't sanity have to prevail? I assume. Bears fans listening, I assume. Yeah, I hope so. I certainly hope so. All right. So I think that more or less wraps up that draft.

It was a three-receiver IDP PPR league. So what that did was really push quarterbacks down quite a bit. Rodgers went in round five. I took Watson in round seven at that point. You know how Dave likes to say you have to feel like you're stealing? It's like, okay, I got to take Sean Watson at this point. Russell Wilson went with the next pick. Where did Brady go?

Brady went to – oh, two picks before to Sean Watson. So, all right. Yeah, to me in the seventh round, and it's 100% Dave is right. It's 100% because I felt like it was stealing. You do these expert drafts, and everybody knows to wait on quarterback, and they wait and they wait and they wait so long that it just becomes ridiculous. And you go, okay. I took Matt Ryan as my backup.

I just go, okay, if you guys are going to do this game, then fine. I don't even remember when I got him. It's beyond round 15. I'm still looking. 19, round 19. Yeah. So, yeah. And this is a league where you really kind of do need to have two quarterbacks because there doesn't wind up being anything on the waiver wire. Exactly.

But it was a little exaggerated, the waiting on quarterbacks. So let's finish off with some emails from our listeners, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. This is from Josh. I have the third pick. I'm deciding between David Johnson and Ezekiel Elliott. I don't know the format, Chris, but who would you take, Johnson or Ezekiel Elliott? I'm actually fine either way. I have them ranked where I have Johnson third and Zeke fourth,

and it's entirely because of what you said before, Adam. It's about the receptions. But if somebody just said, nah, I get bad vibes off the Cardinals, and I don't know why you'd get better vibes off the Cowboys. But, yeah, I would be okay if you said Zeke, but I have DJ. Heath? Yeah, I'm going to go with Zeke. And I think there's a chance that he catches more passes this year

than he has in the past. Michael Gallup had a good game last night, but their talented wide receiver and tight end is pretty suspect. From Brandon. Brandon says, 12-team standard, non-PPR. I'm starting to like Ezekiel Elliott, number one overall, more and more. Is that a good idea? I mean, again, I don't think – if you tell me you have any of those four guys,

number one, I'm fine with it, actually. If you have a feeling, I don't think there's that much of a difference among them. I like Le'Veon Bell the best because I kind of think he's the least schemable. I call him the jazz runner. I don't think he knows what he's going to do half the time. It's just tough to defend a guy like that. But

Zeke is an amazing player. They're all four amazing players. And Zeke has more touchdown potential, I'd say'd say than bell bell's not really been a big touchdown guy uh but i i think that heath and i correct me if i'm wrong heath heath and i would not say david johnson should be in consideration for the number one pick right heath i i think you can make an argument for david johnson for the number one pick it's not difficult to do you just look at what he did when he was healthy.

But I don't feel comfortable taking him over the three of the other running backs, just because I don't... And maybe you should just forget about his floor, but I'm not even sure his ceiling's as high. Let's go to our next email. It's from Dave.

Dear Bobby, Alan, Dion, and Jordan. Don't know who that is. We'll have to look it up. It's a game our listeners play. Do you think he was writing into it? Was he writing into a different podcast? No, no.

Our listeners play this game where they give us names, and we have to figure out who they are. I have absolutely no idea. Say them again. Bobby, Alan, Dion, and we have to figure out who they are. I have absolutely no idea. Say them again. Bobby, Allen, Deion, and Jordan. Yeah, no clue. Deion is spelled D-E-O-N for what it's worth. I don't know any Deion spelled that way. Maybe it was just a typo.

12-team Standard League. I have the second overall pick. Gurley's going number one. I want to take Saquon Barkley over Le'Veon Bell or David Johnson or Antonio Brown. How big of a Penn State homer am I being? And now I'm starting to think Bobby Allen, Dion and Jordan might be Penn State

alums or something. But Chris, how big of a Penn State homer would you have to be to take Saquon Barkley over anybody other than Todd Gurley? I think you'd have to be a pretty big homer. Not that I don't love Saquon Barkley. I do, but I've seen those other dudes do it multiple seasons, and stuff can happen.

I don't know. I think you just create potential problems for yourself. Fantasy is supposed to be fun, so in the end, if it's just going to be more fun for him, that's fine, but I don't think it's the right strategy. Like, these are Penn State legends. Are you serious? Like, we're supposed to legends. Are you serious?

Like, we're supposed to know that, Dave? That is too obscure. Too obscure. I, uh, no. Who's the Dion? Dion Sanders. I don't know. No. It's not Dion Sanders.

I know it's, I know he, believe me, I know he went to Florida State. Um, this is for, uh, Dion Butler. These are the, these are, uh, who cares? Dion Butler is the answer to that questionida state um this is for a dion butler these are the these are who cares dion butler is the answer to that question uh this is from michael half ppr when setting pre-draft auction values i know you'd obviously bump up receivers in half ppr and running backs that catch passes would you take dollars away from quarterbacks or players that don't get many receptions in half PPR? So I'll just say that my general philosophy tends to be not to go in with prescribed dollar figures because every option is different, and you could do the exact same option, auction, jeez, I can't say the word, with the same 12 people on consecutive days

and have players go for wildly different amounts. So I understand the impulse to want those guidelines, same 12 people on consecutive days and have players go for wildly different amounts so i understand the impulse to want those guidelines but i really i almost think they become prisons not less less than guidelines but if i'm dead set that i darn it i have to then no if i've done the increase on the receivers there's no need to do corresponding decreases on the other players yeah if i took dollars away from quarterbacks and ppr then i'd have like six quarterbacks that had an auction value because my experience has always been that you get to the end of the draft and four teams don't have a quarterback and guys just start going for a buck or two um i i'm glad you mentioned that chris because as a host slash producer slash guy who improperly

reads emails um i have a lot of trouble doing auction Episodes Because they are always so different And you know That's why I try to give more general advice about them Like save some money I like to always have a stud At least one stud hopefully two I don't want a team full of mid round picks

But they're just so so different And that's why I think it's easier To do like what round would you take a guy in rather than how much would you bid on him. It's just they're all so unique. We literally just did an auction with Jim McCormick on my show for about a half an hour on Thursday. Literally just did the same thing. We talked about general guidelines but I know people thirst for such specifics to use as guidelines

and that's what's beautiful about auctions is that they're really – you sort of have to be pretty zen when you're in them. Yeah. general guidelines, but I know people thirst for such specifics to use as guidelines, and that's what's beautiful about auctions is that they're really – you sort of have to be pretty zen when you're in them. Yeah. All right, Lou from Bucks County. In PPR, since the big three tight ends equate to top 12 wide receiver production – and I'll say, Lou, I don't necessarily agree with that necessarily. I don't know about all three, but two of them were last year, yeah. Why not take Gronkowski in round two and either kelsey or earths in round three

one can be a flex chris what do you think about taking two times we answered this a couple weeks ago but i actually think it's a pretty interesting philosophy what do you think i think it would be great if you could fast forward me to december and tell me for sure that they reach that level of production then it would work out fine but fact is, every year people have tried to make Gronk a first-round pick, he's gotten hurt. Or every year they've tried to make Jimmy Graham a first-round pick, he's not been. And then second round as well. The fact is, there's not absolute certainty on these players. And the number one tight end often, in the past, these past couple years, Gronk has been fine,

but don't always perform as the number one tight end often in the past these past couple years gronk has been fine but don't always perform as the number one tight end and it comes down to again the the opportunity cost of not taking gronk just isn't as high as the opportunity cost of not taking a player at a scarcer position fine i can't lock in a thousand and ten touchdowns but i can pretty well cobble together 606 and that difference just is not that difference is nearly as not as big as what i would have can pretty well cobble together 606, and that difference is nearly not as big as what I would have to do to cobble together a running back or wide receiver. Something we talked about yesterday on our tight ends preview. Here's an email from Tom from North Carolina. He wants to know some late round tight ends that you guys like to target.

Heath, I'll let you kick it off. Well, I think after last night, we've got to say David Njoku, but he may not be a late round tight end much longer if he has another game like that. You know that I like Hayden Hurst, so we've got to say him. I still, last night's lack of involvement doesn't scare me away from Eric Ebron either. All right. Chris, any late-round tight ends that you'd like to target?

Last night's lack of involvement doesn't scare me away from Eric Ebron. Eric Ebron scares me away from Eric Ebron. You know ebron scares me away eric ebron uh you know i would i would have told you george kittle and now i can't tell you george kittle anymore i actually he was one of my discoveries on film this past uh summer when i was writing the almanac i loved what i saw and it's unfortunate i'm hoping maybe we get you know it's a separated shoulder but maybe they said no damage i don't know we. We'll see. If I go late round, I'm just going to pick someone from among –

Njoku was already my number 11. Trey Burton is my 12. Doyle is my 13 because I think – again, I'm not a big Ebron fan. I'll take O.J. Howard over Cameron Brait, but they're sort of both in the mix. But the one who stands out to me, who if everything were to go right, it's Tyler Eifert. Because if he were to stay healthy, I mean, I've got a top five tight end talent-wise and sort of usage-wise.

And then if it doesn't work out, well, I don't have to worry about it because I'll just cobble it together. Email from Eric in Boston. In a three-wide receiver, non-PPR league, I'm going to give you four options. Would you rather start your team? Threewide receiver non-PPR league, I'm going to give you four options. Would you rather start your team, three receivers, non-PPR,

DeAndre Hopkins and Devontae Adams, Dalvin Cook and Devontae Adams, DeAndre Hopkins and Gronk, Cook and Gronk. So I'll give it again. Hopkins and Adams, Cook and Gronk So I'll give it again Hopkins and Adams Cook and Adams Hopkins and Gronk Cook and Gronk

Heath what's your favorite of those four Sounds like I'm starting wide receiver wide receiver again Hopkins and Adams Alright and this is a three receiver league How about you Chris I Adams is going to be my pick over Gronk I'm going to say Cook But I dononk um i'm gonna say cook but but i don't hate it i don't hate hopkins either i just have i have hopkins as my wide receiver four

and in a standard league i have cook as the last running back before i get to the second third and four receivers but it's so close so i don't adamantly say this, but I guess I go Cook-Adams. How do you rank Kareem Hunt, Melvin Gordon, Dalvin Cook? I have Melvin Gordon and then Cook and then getting hit by a bus and then Kareem Hunt. Not really. I like Kareem Hunt fine. He's just not quite to that level for me. I think he's good. Interesting.

Yeah. And listen, I think Cook is probably a more spectacular player than Gordon. And if Cook didn't have questions about health coming into the year with the surgery and I knew for sure what he looked like, I'd want him over Gordon. What do you have against Kareem Hunt? Not – that was just the – that was the obligatory deadspin reference. You know, I think he's good i don't i don't think i think the thing that he does really well is uh as is a balanced runner like he doesn't go down at first contact he's sort of a surprisingly powerful guy even though he's not all that powerful but he just

sort of stays on his feet and i love that but i'm not sure i see anything else on film that i think is like super special and i think that got borne out as the season went along that the big games, the giant production, that Patriot game got further in arrears. We started to see what he really was. You could argue that he was hurt or he was wearing down as a rookie and maybe he'll have a great full season.

He's a top 20 overall player for me, no question about it, but I might be a little bit lower on him than the market. All right, Chris, we're going to let you go and have yourself a great weekend. Tell us one more time how we can hear you, how we can read your stuff and whatnot. Yeah, harrisfootball.com is where everything is. There's that almanac that you mentioned. It's like a 200-page PDF where I give everybody film grades and also just tell stand-up jokes about everybody. There's a lot of nonsense and humor in there as

well uh you guys know brett coleman who does the film room on youtube i don't yeah he's awesome and he has he's whatever he's hundreds of thousands of people follow him on on youtube and so i just launched a youtube channel and he and i are on monday starting to launch a series on how to watch film basically teach a person to fish kind of thing where this is what we're looking for, how you can tell that the dude's production isn't fake or it is fake. All the positions and stuff. It's like a 15-episode sort of YouTube thing that people can be on the lookout for. Oh, Brett Coleman. I thought you said Ned Coleman.

I know him. He's got 200,000 followers, of course. No, that's cool. We'll be looking out for you there, Chris. Thank you so much for coming on. Yeah, man. Thanks. Looking forward to this league.

I'm shocked that you didn't take me to task for my receivers that I picked because I wound up with Doug Baldwin and Josh Gordon on the same team. That's pretty safe. It's playing it safe. Good stuff. Just like Heath's running back. Heath, I got to thank you, too. pretty safe. It's playing it safe. Good stuff. Just like Heath's running back. And Heath, I got to thank you too. I didn't forget about you, buddy.

Well, I just want to thank Chris. Me too. And we will both try harder to get an A-plus like you. Good luck, boys. I look forward to checking out your teams in the rearview mirror. And everybody, have a wonderful weekend. We'll talk to you on Monday on Fantasy Football Today. It's all right. I've got Le'Veon.

It's all right. Not George Le'Veon. It's all right. I've got Le'Veon Bell.