Fantasy Football Today - 08/14: Sleepers! And Finishing Up Our WR Talk (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: August 14, 2019Who are our favorite sleepers in 2019? We start the show with a couple of names before talking about Andrew Luck's mysterious injury (5:45). Is he no longer a Top 12 QB? Can you still take him fairly ...early thanks to the depth at the position? And how does his injury potentially impact his teammates? ... We finish up our WR Preview with our favorite WRs after the Top 40 (22:00). We're looking at rookie WRs, Anthony Miller, Larry Fitzgerald, perhaps a GB WR, Josh Gordon, John Brown, perhaps a MIA WR, Donte Moncrief and more ... Some more news (36:50), and then we get to sleepers! First Dave's sleepers (37:50) including Darwin Thompson and Delanie Walker, then Jamey's sleepers (42:00) including Lamar Jackson, Latavius Murray and Royce Freeman. And we've got some from Heath and our listeners as well (49:10) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Welcome to Fantasy Football Today here on Wednesday,
where we are talking sleepers.
Dave's sleepers, Jamie's sleepers, Heath's sleepers, even though he's not on the show today,
and even better, listener sleepers.
I asked the listeners on Twitter yesterday who were some of your favorites,
and they gave some pretty good answers, so we're going to talk about that.
Dave and Jamie are here. I am Adam. Good morning, guys. What's going on?
What's up, Adam? How are you? Are you feeling good this morning?
Are you excited? Can you hear me? Yeah, I? Are you feeling good this morning? Are you excited?
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you.
We had some audio issues going on, and I lost my cool a little bit.
I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of it.
Jamie started working on his Adam impression.
It's actually pretty good.
It's actually pretty good, so thank you for that.
I can't take it anymore.
I'm sick of it.
Thank you, Jamie The only thing that was better than your rant this morning
Was I could watch
John Gruden coach
Nathan Peterman
And Mike Glenn on a loop
And Glenn on
On a loop
It was so funny last night
It was one of the best Hard Knocks episodes ever
Oh my gosh.
It was awesome.
All right.
Maybe I'll watch it.
Maybe I'll watch it.
I'm looking for new shows.
I'm cruising for new shows.
I tried one the other day and it was the worst show I've ever seen.
If you're lucky, I'll tell you about which show that everybody loves that Adam absolutely hates right now.
But who is your favorite?
Good choice of words, by the way.
What do you mean?
If you're lucky.
If you're lucky, If you're lucky.
Yes.
Andrew Luck is obviously a big story today.
Is Andrew Luck destroying T.Y. Hilton, Marlon Mack and Eric Ebron and fantasy seasons already?
But before that, it is a sleeper show.
So just give me one.
Give me your favorite sleeper for 2019 or one of your favorite sleepers.
Dave, who do you got?
Does Deshaun Jackson qualify as a sleeper?
Yeah.
Because he's not early.
He's barely a middle-round pick.
I like him better in non-PPR than PPR,
but I think he's in for a year like his first year in Washington.
Okay.
I'm trying to look up those numbers.
Over 1,000 yards, like five or six touchdowns,
something like that.
I'm pretty sure that.
That was 2014.
He was wide receiver 15 in non-PPR, 20 in PPR,
56 catches, 1,169 yards,
and six touchdowns on 94 targets in 15 games.
All right, Jamie, how about you?
Your favorite sleeper?
Jacoby Brissett.
Really excited about him for this season.
I'll take Marquez Valdez-Scantling.
I like what I've been hearing about the reports on him
and what our buddy Pete Prisco said about his opportunity this season.
So I think MVS for the value you're getting him at could be really good.
I'm drinking, by the way, because he said Pete Prisco.
But I don't know that you mentioned what Prisco said on this podcast.
You may have only said it on the video show FFT on CBS Sports HQ.
So as I take a drink, what did he say?
Pete was with the Packers in Green Bay speaking to numerous people there,
from Matt LaFleur to Aaron Rodgers to, I'm sure a number of people,
Devante Adams as well.
Adams told him this on camera that,
you know,
they obviously like Geronimo Allison a lot.
And I don't think this is a Geronimo Allison stinks conversation,
but it's also that they expect Valdez scaling to be,
I think the bigger stat producer.
Somebody told Pete to expect maybe eight to10 touchdowns out of Valdez
Scantling this year. I think there's
an opportunity just looking at what the outside receivers
do versus the slot receivers, especially in the
red zone. Valdez Scantling could have
a big, big season. He's the field striker.
Not that Devonta
Adams can't stretch the field, but he's like
the do-it-all number one guy.
Allison's in the slot, and MVS is the one
who can force the safeties
back a little bit more, get guys open underneath, or beat defenses with the long ball. Rodgers is
pretty good at throwing them. How would you guys rank Deshaun Jackson, Marquez Valdez,
Scantling, and Geronimo Allison right now? I still have Deshaun at the top of the list.
In non-PPR, I definitely have MVS ahead of Allison. In PPR,
I think I'm being stubborn and still have Geronimo one, maybe two spots ahead of MVS.
I'll take both Packers over Deshaun, but I like all three.
Okay. When you say Pete Briscoe drink and then I drink, is it weird that I
love water? I was talking about that the other day. I love water. How do you guys feel about
just drinking water? You know know what's funny is that um unofficial reports that uh adam's wife brought him
milk and he said i don't want milk i want water i do want water i love water britta it's great
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But let's start with the big news and Andrew Luck.
He has been dealing with this calf issue.
Now he has an ankle issue as well.
His status for week one is uncertain.
Jacoby Brissett was bad in 2017 but should be a better player now.
In 2017, he threw for 3,100 yards, 13 touchdowns,
and seven interceptions,
and barely played through only four passes last year.
All right, so there are a lot of angles here to Andrew Luck.
Let's start with Luck himself.
And what are you doing in your rankings,
and how do you feel about him on draft day now?
I put him 15.
Nuh-uh.
Yeah.
Really? All right, let me-uh. Yeah. Really?
All right, let me just say.
Yeah, I'm concerned.
But last year, you know, this time last year,
we didn't know for sure he'd be ready for week one.
He was falling.
It wasn't 15th.
And he ended up being one of the best values in fantasy
because he had an amazing year
and we were freaking out about an injury.
Oh, if we find out, you know,
I think we probably need to explain this a little bit more.
We never really talk about this.
The way I approach my rankings,
I don't know if Dave and Heath do the same thing.
I approach it as if I'm doing a draft today.
And if I'm drafting today,
I can't tell somebody to draft Andrew Luck
as their starting quarterback
with any semblance of confidence because
we don't know how many games he could miss.
It's now, it's started as a calf injury in May,
and here we are in the middle of August,
and now all of a sudden it's a high ankle sprain.
They don't know what's going on.
He's going to see a specialist.
So I expect him to play this season,
but I start to look at my rankings.
Now, you can easily question, and I get it.
You could say, how can anybody say Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson over Andrew Luck? And I easily question and i get it you could say how can anybody say
kyler murray or lamar jackson over andrew luck and i get that totally good but when you start to
the way i approach it is if i think russell wilson who i don't really love this year 16 games
is better than andrew luck right now drew breeze who I think is going to continue to decline a little bit,
16 games, better than Andrew Luck.
Ben Roethlisberger, even without Antonio Brown, 16 games,
I feel better about him than Andrew Luck.
The line I draw is Jimmy Garoppolo,
because I can't tell you Garoppolo's going to play 16 games,
and he's my 16th quarterback right now.
So I just look at it that if you want to take luck,
like we did two 10-team drafts yesterday,
and both I tried to get Andrew Luck.
One I failed, one I got him, and I took him with Jared Goff.
In a 10-team league, it's easy.
You can swing for the fences with Luck, and hopefully he's fine.
But if I'm drafting today, we do a two-quarterback league draft this afternoon.
I can't draft Luck as a number one guy.
I'll take a chance on him as a number two guy.
But I just don't know when he's going to play.
That's different.
Two-quarterback league is totally different. I just don't know when he's going to... That's different. Like two quarterback league
is totally different.
I just don't know
when Andrew Luck
is going to play right now.
I'm fully expecting
and we do this all the time.
Antonio Brown was down
for me, 19.
Put him back at 12.
He's too late.
You know,
because we have more news
that tells us
he's going to be on the field.
Melvin Gordon
is going to yo-yo
because of when he signs his deal, if he signs before
the end of training camp or before
the season starts.
Labor Day weekend, let's just say.
Isn't that a lesson to be learned?
Maybe you shouldn't move Andrew Luck down this far?
It's not like he's going to miss the entire season.
What makes you think he's going to
be ready?
Here's the thing. If I draft
Andrew Luck, and I'm not drafting him as a top
five guy anymore. Like in the draft we did yesterday, I took Cam Newton over him. I saw
in our consensus rankings, he's just behind Jared Goff. That makes sense. But if I draft Andrew Luck
in a one quarterback league, we talk about all the time, quarterback is so deep. I can take a
chance on Andrew Luck as like the 10th quarterback off the board. And I can still draft Jameis
Winston or Phillip Rivers or somebody that I
like.
And I can use as a starter until Andrew Luck is healthy.
And all of a sudden it's great value.
I stop,
stop,
stop there,
stop there until he's healthy.
That's the thing we don't know right now.
That's,
that's the problem.
If you're doing your draft right now,
you're,
and,
and,
and I know most drafts are going to happen in a couple of weeks and we will
adjust our rankings accordingly when we have more news as that happens.
That, I think, is the process that we unfortunately have to deal with that people that are doing their drafts don't necessarily have to follow.
So if most people think like you, Adam, that he's going to be fine for the season, which I hope is the case.
I have to declare keepers for a draft that I'm doing on Saturday, and luck was all along one of my four keepers because I get them in round 13.
I'm still going to do it because we have an IR spot.
So it makes it a little bit easier for me.
But if I didn't have the IR spots,
a little bit trickier.
So I think,
you know,
if you're doing your drafts between now through this weekend and this weekend
is when they really start to pick up.
So it's just a matter of where's your risk versus reward factor.
And so like,
I'll use Roethlisberger as an example, because he was a top three quarterback last year,
threw for 5,000 yards. And we know there's a lot that's changed because he loses arguably his best
receiver, but the offense isn't changing. They're still going to throw the ball a lot. The defense,
I know is going to be better. At least I expect it to be. So he's not going to probably be 5,000
yards, but you hear Heath all the time say he's projecting him to still be among the league leaders in
pass attempts.
And I think that's going to be the case.
Will he be as successful in that?
I don't know.
But how can I sit here and say I don't trust Roethlisberger when I know he's playing and
we don't know the combination of the group of guys.
I don't want to make this a Roethlisberger conversation, but the combination of guys
don't make him still very
successful as a fantasy option.
At the same time, you've talked about this, Adam.
The Colts last year, they ran the ball more
down the stretch when they
started to win the ball better.
And I know Dave's counter to that
is his fantasy production was still good, but
what if it's, he's not
right, they run the ball more, they're taking their
time with them, kid gloves.
This is a team that the defense is going to be better.
However you slice it, they're going to be better.
And I think that they can be a little bit more cautious with him
to make sure he's ready.
I agree with you.
I expect him to play the majority of the season.
I expect him to be fine.
But the position is so deep.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's why you should not wait that long to take
him because you can take him in round 10 when you already have the core of your team, even if he's
the eighth quarterback off the board or something like that. And two rounds later, you can still
take a really good starting quarterback. So, and, and you could, you could still do that anyway,
but I, I, I'll go back to, you know, you asked this question over the last couple of weeks,
how many starting quarterbacks do we feel comfortable with?
And when I say 25, it's like, okay, the first 15 guys, I think, you know, they're probably, if I was doing projections, they'd be two, three points apart from each other.
And I still think Luck is a number one quarterback.
But, like, I go, again, where I go for the upside guys of Kyler Murray and Lamar Jackson, they're a little bit wild cards.
But I think right now he's in, for me at least,
the same mix as Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, and Roethlisberger of guys that are still going to be very good.
But I have some questions.
Here's the deal.
First of all, sorry for blowing everybody's ears out
with my Acer-like outburst a minute ago.
How is this any different than 2017?
Has Andrew Luck practiced?
Barely.
Are the Colts lying about what his injury is?
Yeah.
Do they know when he's going to get ready?
I don't think they're lying about his injury.
Really?
They started by saying it was a calf.
There was a bone issue.
Now it's an ankle.
I don't think it's lying.
I think they think it was misdiagnosed.
I don't think it was.
They're purposely trying to.
Okay, fine. They've misdiagnosed. I don't think it was there. They're purposely trying to, uh, okay. Okay,
fine.
They've misdiagnosed an injury potentially for the second time in three
years with Andrew luck.
I,
and the bottom line in fantasy,
which you talked about Jamie is that there are so many other quarterbacks
that you can go with.
Why would you put yourself in the position of having that unnecessary risk
with luck missing time?
If you draft Andrew luck,
it means you have to draft two quarterbacks.
A lot of people don't want to draft two quarterbacks.
I'm in the same camp as you, Adam.
I'm willing to take Andrew Luck.
I've got him just outside round 10 in my rankings,
and I'd love to pair him with Breeze, with Rivers, with Roethlisberg.
Sure.
But I've got to commit to having two quarterbacks on my team and I've got to
make sure that I want to carry it for,
I don't know how long is it going to be just if,
if we know it's going to be just one week of no Andrew luck,
that's a cakewalk.
Fine.
I'll deal with it,
but we don't know if it's going to be one week or 16 weeks.
And that's,
that's really the problem that I see.
No,
it makes sense.
Makes sense.
But if you take him in round 10
and he misses the entire season, it's really
no harm, no foul on your roster.
That I agree with. It's just annoying.
What about the rest?
This stuff definitely makes
me nervous about T.Y. Hilton.
T.Y. Hilton in 2017 was the number
25 wide receiver in non-PPR,
number 28 in PPR.
He had seven games with fewer than 30 yards.
He was pretty useless almost every time.
And he was a little bit better in 2015 in nine games without Andrew Luck.
Hilton was on pace for 68 catches, 1,024 yards,
and just three and a half touchdowns.
So that's not god-awful, but certainly not third-round material here.
When would you take T.Y. Hilton today? Thanks a lot. Early third. So that's not god-awful, but certainly not third-round material here.
When would you take T.Y. Hilton today?
Thanks a lot. Early third.
I'm going to be more late.
I don't get it.
Why would you move Andrew Luck down to 15 but not T.Y. Hilton? Because this isn't Luck missing the season yet.
We don't know that yet.
Okay.
But you wouldn't knock down Hilton?
I'll say what I've been saying.
I don't think Jacoby Brissett's going to be as much of a disaster.
Yeah.
I mean, he shouldn't be.
He was terrible.
They were terrible in the preseason game.
He was thrown into the mix late.
He didn't have the same offensive line in front of him.
He didn't have any semblance of experience.
Antonio Brown or T.Y. Hilton?
Antonio Brown or Hilton?
I'm taking Brown.
Brown is probably the smart effect.
Okay.
Marlon Mack, effect on him?
Nothing yet.
Yeah.
Nothing?
Still like round three, four in that.
Okay.
And then Eric Ebron, you know oh god how late did ebron go
you took him in our 10 team ppr yeah it was super late i was the last guy to take a tight end it
was like your third to last pick or second to last pick yeah no i i took the last time that
i was the second to last yeah yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. Did you take Jordan Reed?
I did.
You did, right?
Yeah.
He's going so late.
He's like tight end 21 or something.
He's a really good sleeper.
He's one of Heath's sleepers, especially in PPR. All right.
We have some more big news.
Just let's run through it really quickly, guys,
because we have a lot to get to on today's show.
Tony Romo says it's a coin flip as to whether Ezekiel Elliott will play in week one.
Who did he say that to?
He said it to you? Matthew Mayer? Said it to me.
Said it to you.
Amari Cooper has
plantar fascia irritation according to Maven
Sports. Big deal?
Not big deal?
They seem to be downplaying it in Dallas.
Okay. And Kevin
Duffy of the Boston Herald says,
it's pretty clear that the Patriots see Sonny Michel
as their lead running back.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's reports that Damien Harris
is not even being involved in practice,
and it's not injury-related.
Hard to trust him at all.
If I give you 16 to 17 carries per game for Sonny Michel,
how good of a season do you think he has?
Oh, God.
If he stays healthy for 16 games,
he'll be a top 20 running back.
Top 20?
On 16 carries with no catches?
Yeah, top 20.
He'll be higher than...
I was going to say...
He's going to score a ton of touchdowns
if he's getting that.
Yeah, that's the thing.
You would expect a lot of touchdowns.
All right, we got to take a break here on Fantasy Football today.
When we come back, yeah, big announcements.
Big announcements.
Podcast League announcements.
Telethon announcements.
Help us out with our charity event.
And we've got to finish up wide receiver.
We'll do that, and then we'll get into sleepers right after this.
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Okay, very important stuff.
We have a telethon coming up next week.
I could tell you about it,
but I think it'd probably be better
if Jamie told you about it.
Jamie knows a lot more than I do.
We're all going to be involved.
Jamie, give us some deets on the telethon
and how people can also get involved.
I mean, it's going to be one of the more fun things
that we do.
It was fun last year when we did it. It's going to be one of the more fun things that we do it was fun last year when we did it
it's going to be
on Thursday
August 22nd it'll be for
six hours from noon
Eastern until 6pm
and it's to raise money for
St. Jude's for the Children's Hospital there
so it's for a great cause we'll have more
information on how you can donate if you are so
inclined and we appreciate it if you do.
We'll be giving away a lot of cool things
signed memorabilia from a
lot of our training camp stops so
thanks to guys like Pete Prisco and Bryant McFadden
and Jason
Lacofora and Evan Washburn for
collecting all those things and our producers for
going about doing it. We're going to have some WWE guys
involved including the great Eric Young
who is a huge
fantasy player himself.
He will be tormenting Adam throughout the six hours.
He should body slam me, I think.
It'll be one of the two great fights of the telethon.
It will be Eric Young throwing Adam Azer around,
probably the room that we're sitting in right now.
And then Dave and Will Brinson fighting over the microphone
while wearing tuxedos. While wearing tuxedos. in right now. And then Dave and Will Brinson fighting over the microphone with the...
While wearing tuxedos.
While wearing tuxedos.
But we're going to have
some very cool NFL players involved with
this, I've been told.
I don't think it's 100% confirmed yet, but we'll
say Matt Forte,
Eddie Lacy, Roddy White,
Dwayne Bowe, and
Fred Jackson, I believe, are going to be some of the
players that are involved in the telethon as well.
Cool. We can say whatever we want. Tom Brady
is going to be on. Joe Montana.
It's going to be amazing.
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Let's finish up wide receiver.
We did about 40 of them on the first two shows,
specifically yesterday with ADP.
When you get past the D.D. Westbrook, Sterling Shepard, Corey Davis group,
and we're past Dante Pettis and Sammy Watkins and Christian Kirk,
we're now getting to around pick 100 or so, and we're looking at Pettis and Sammy Watkins and Christian Kirk. We're now getting
to around pick 100 or so. And we're looking at Sterling Shepard and Larry Fitzgerald and
Broncos wide receivers, all of the rookie wide receivers, including Nikhil Harry and DK Metcalf,
all of them. Give me some names, guys, that really pop to you. I'm not going to include,
well, we could include Geronimo Allison, won't include MVS, but give me some names, guys, that really pop to you. I'm not going to include...
Well, we could include Geronimo Allison.
We won't include MVS.
But give me some names that pop to you in this range
around wide receiver 40, around 100th overall in drafts.
Well, first of all, I'm taking Westbrook before 98th overall.
I've done a little more research on him
and the role that he's going to play in Jacksville.
He ran 88% of his routes out of the slot last year.
I think he's going to be in for a career year.
So he's going to go higher than 100.
Shepard is one who I think will also go, especially in PPR, a little bit higher than his ADPs at 107.
I think he's going to go a little bit higher than that.
And I love him as a bench receiver.
He was getting over 10 PPR fantasy points per game on average with or without Odell Beckham.
So he's got like that nice safe floor that you can feel good about.
And then there's the name on this list that I don't even know if he should even still be here.
He's at 115th overall Curtis Samuel.
He is the he is the darling of training camp across the league, just making play after play.
The Bills reporters were raving about him in during their
joint practice so this is a different team's beat reporters saying wow this guy's amazing
jamie was on him uh before anybody else that i know of and yeah last year he didn't even have
500 yards he's gonna blow through that in 2019. Okay, that's Curtis Samuel.
Yeah, we like Westbrook. We like Samuel Sterling-Shepard.
And then, you know, the first four games for Shepard
in particular could be good without Golden Tate,
whose suspension has been
upheld. Okay,
Jamie, who's your favorite Broncos wide receiver
and why?
Cortland Sutton in non-PPR
and I still like Deshaun Hamilton the best
in PPR. I'm just nervous about Emmanuel Sanders making it through 16 games. You know, you already had the report about him having to undergo ankle surgery after the, uh, the, the Achilles tear that he suffered last year. It, it, it's, it's a tough injury to come back from. It's amazing that he's on the field and doing what he's doing, but I'm, I'm still a little bit nervous. So he's third for me, but they're all low-end guys.
You know, it's not going to be a passing offense
that I think you want to gravitate toward,
but there are some good options with late-round picks,
all three of them, you know, again, if Sanders stays healthy.
I do think it's going to be interesting
when Prisco was out there with him, Drink,
he seems to think that they're going to keep Sanders
on the outside, which is great news
if you're like Deshaun Hamilton like I do,
because I think his best opportunity will be in the slot,
as we saw last year when he took over that role when Sanders was gone.
Would you guys take a second Steelers wide receiver,
probably Dante Moncrief, over a Broncos wide receiver?
Yes.
I've got Sutton two spots higher than Monk.
Because I think there's just more upside with Sutton than there is with Monk.
Maybe I'm an idiot, but I still like Emmanuel Sanders.
I want to see how it plays out.
I think most people will.
I don't think that that's an unpopular choice.
I think I have the unpopular choice of taking the other two guys over Sanders.
Okay.
Any rookie wide receivers that you've been targeting a lot?
For me, it's been DK Metcalf, but I do feel like Nikhil Harry,
with all these injuries, it's almost like his value could be getting pushed down
so much that it could end up really working out for you.
But yeah, who do you guys like rookie-wide receivers?
I don't take any of them unless it it's a 16 round draft or larger.
I just don't love this group and their situations.
You know,
the one guy that's starting to,
I think the two guys I think that are starting to become attractive with late
round picks are Debo Samuel and miles Boykin,
but those are not the prominent names that I think most people have been looking at.
It's been DK Metcalf.
It's been Harry.
It's been Marquise Brown.
Harry's banged up.
He's dealing with an injury right now.
I think you just see the Patriots there.
They're going to give him an opportunity.
I think they also seem to like Jacoby Myers
and an undrafted rookie free agent that they have.
We don't know what's going to happen with the Mary's Thomas.
So,
and,
and obviously the wild card of Josh Gordon.
So I,
I,
I steer clear of Harry.
I still care of,
of Metcalf and Marquise Brown.
Personally,
Harry is my top ranked rookie receiver in PPR,
but I'm looking at him in Brown 14 plus.
So specifically a guy that I just want to put squatters rights on
put on my bench as my fifth or sixth receiver not overly excited about any of these guys for
similar reasons that jamie pointed out that could change the next two preseason games for everybody
could definitely shake things up i keep seeing practice
highlights of dk metcalf and i and i'm like wow he's doing things that i wasn't sure he was going
to be able to do and then the game comes on and no it's not quite the same and you know that he's
got some injury risk and he's on a team that's probably going to throw the ball a little bit
more than we give them credit for but it's going to be a little bit more balanced than what
we might have thought so i don't think i dk metcalf will end up being an average best ball
bench type of guy the guy you'll draft late and he'll help you out for three weeks the thing about
metcalf that i like one he had his guy beat for a deep ball in the preseason opener last week, and
whoever the quarterback was, it wasn't Russell Wilson, missed him. But two, Russell Wilson needs
a red zone target. It's been Doug Baldwin. It's been Jimmy Graham. Those guys are not there
anymore. Tyler Lockett does not get a lot of red zone targets. If those targets start going to
Tyler Lockett, then we're probably all going to be too low on Lockett, even though we like him.
But I think Metcalf is a natural fit to step in and fill that red zone void.
And it may not work, but I get him so late that even if it doesn't,
you know, whatever, you move on.
So that is somebody that I do like.
Are there any other guys?
I know Heath likes Tyra Williams a lot.
He's the 53rd wide receiver off the board. Devin Funchess has actually not been that bad when he's gotten work.
He's got, you know, obviously he's not a number one guy anymore. Like we never talk about him.
How do you feel about Anthony Miller and Devin Funchess? They are outside the top 50 on fantasy
pros and ADP. Miller's got an ankle injury, so that might actually make his ADP stay where it is or slide even further.
I still love his potential in Chicago.
They don't seem concerned about the ankle holding him back, but he came into the NFL with a foot injury.
He separated his shoulder his rookie year, and now he's got a sprained ankle before his sophomore season.
So he kind of got to put the injury tag on him, but I would speculate on
him before I would speculate on any rookie wide receiver. How about John Brown or Devin Funchess?
I have Brown higher. I think he can contribute a little bit more than
the typical deep ball receiver. I think we view him as a deep ball guy, but
he's been a lot more than that.
13 of his last 17 touchdowns, I believe it's over three seasons or four seasons for John Brown
have been red zone touchdowns. My biggest concern with John Brown is his quarterback
and that Josh Allen will have, we'll have moments of pure bliss and moments of how did this guy get
picked in the first? And I think it's going to end up hurting John Brown. He'll have a low cut.
We saw last year with Joe Flacco that John Brown was,
you know, I don't want to say amazing,
but, you know, not that short of it.
He was playing at a very high level,
and then the quarterback change was a disaster for him
with Lamar Jackson.
Obviously, it was an entirely different system,
but I think, you know, John Brown wins
with going to play with a guy
that will challenge down the field
in terms of Josh Allen as a quarterback.
He's ahead of the rookies.
I think he's got some significant upset.
I want to see this whole Buffalo receiving core, though, together.
I know we're not going to get that with the guy that they thought would be their starting tight end
in Tyler Croft because he's still banged up.
Cole Beasley's been in and out of the practices, at least in the minicamp,
you know, and I don't think they figured out.
It seems as if it's going to be Zay Jones as the other guy.
But can this all work together?
And one guy being, I don't want to say very successful, but successful enough that you
can take a late round flyer on him and be comfortable enough with it.
But there's so many guys when you get to this range that have very intriguing upside. You know, you mentioned Adam, Larry Fitzgerald. Pete also told us with
his time with the Chargers and Cardinals during the preseason game that to a man, everybody that
he spoke to, they didn't say Christian Kirk, which is what they told him this offseason.
It was Larry Fitzgerald and how he looks three years younger and all these things. And, you know, it just takes me back to almost every time we keep writing
Larry Fitzgerald off and then he gets an upgraded quarterback situation and all of a sudden he gets
rejuvenated a little bit and it happens. And coaching situation, you know, I mean, we were
done with him before Bruce Arians got there and Arians turned him into a hundred cash guy three
years in a row and kept saying, he's not going to do it again. He's not going to do it again.
He's not going to do it again. And he did it
again. And so I think
with Fitzgerald, I
keep downgrading Christian Kirk and I keep moving him
up. And it's not a bad
scenario to just
take a chance on him late. And the other guy for me
is Jamison Crowder.
I think you look at what the
Jets offense is going to be
with Adam Gase and Sam Darnold. And, you know, you don't want to read too much into preseason
when it's one series, but Sam Darnold threw five times in that first drive. And two of them went
to Crowder. One was a big play for 30 plus yards. And then one was the red zone touchdown. So
I think Crowder, you know, he's always been one of my favorite guys, uh, had a hard time staying
healthy in Washington. You know, when he was entering his third season. He didn't have that breakout performance like I was hoping to.
But as a slot receiver, I think he's going to get potentially a high volume of targets,
and that could be a good situation for him.
His ADP is 158th overall.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah, that'll normalize a little bit once we get through this weekend.
Three more guys I want to ask you about real quick here.
One, Josh Gordon.
Do you feel like you should be drafting Josh Gordon?
You can spend a late
round pick on Gordon. The problem is
we don't know when he's going to come back.
You might be sitting on him for
two to three weeks and you might need to pick somebody
off of waivers.
You're going to have to say, alright, who am I cutting?
Well, Josh Gordon's still suspended
so I guess I'm going to cut him.
He'll be much easier
to draft and you'll draft him higher
if we get word that he'll be reinstated.
We just haven't heard anything.
If he gets reinstated.
If he gets reinstated, his ADP is going to shoot like a rocket.
Yeah, he could be awesome.
He could be awesome.
He was really good without Gronkowski.
So, I mean, I think it's, you know, every time he gets taken in a draft,
I'm like, oh, man, I think I probably should have drafted Josh Gordon.
A hundred percent.
You absolutely should be drafting him if you get the later round.
Yeah.
Okay.
Kenny Stills, kind of interested in him with Ryan Fitzpatrick.
I think that could be a somewhat fun combo.
All of the Dolphins guys are in play once you get past round 12.
Who's your fave?
It means favorite.
Stills.
Stills.
Okay. But all of them are. once you get past round 12. Who's your fave? It means favorite. Stills, okay.
But all of them are.
I mean, if Fitzpatrick starts,
let's just say eight plus games.
For those eight games,
he is going to do something
that we have not seen with these Dolphins receivers,
maybe outside of the stretch with Matt Moore,
which is somebody taking chances
to allow them to go make plays.
And remember Kenny Stills
at the end of the 2016 season
when Matt Moore took over?
He was a superstar.
Yeah. Alright, last
guy. You know, I remember
I guess it was five years ago now
a first round wide receiver
who was hurt in training camp
didn't play in the preseason as I recall
missed the first four games of the
season and then he became one of the best
wide receivers in football. Not saying
that's going to happen, but Marquise Brown,
that was Odell Beckham, by the way, Marquise Brown was the first
wide receiver drafted in the NFL draft.
He has blazing speed. He's the 61st wide receiver off the board.
Nobody likes him. Is he even the first Ravens wide receiver
you're taking, or is it Boykin?
It'll be Boykin if he has another strong preseason performance.
But I know I said I'm not taking these guys.
I don't have a problem if somebody wants to take a chance on them.
It's just there are so many differences between what Odell Beckham's situation was
and Marquise Brown's.
But he'll have some good moments if he's healthy.
It's just a matter of, again, to sort of go back to the luck situation.
How long is this injury going to linger for him?
This is going back to January.
And the reports are, the thing I read yesterday,
is that he could run in a straight line,
which is clearly something he could do very well,
but he's having a hard time cutting.
All right.
That is Marquise Brown.
And if you draft him, you might be cutting him.
Okay, let's take a quick break on fantasy football today. When we come back, sleepers from Dave,
from Jamie. We'll read some of Heath's sleepers. We'll read your tweets. And we'll try to get to
some emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. If we don't, yeah, we're definitely going to get to
them tomorrow. And tomorrow will be the day that I make the podcast league announcement and tell
you how you can get in and when it's going to be.
I thought it would be today, but we're going to postpone that until tomorrow.
My apologies, and we'll be right back.
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Quick news and notes here.
Dak Prescott rejected a $30 million per year offer.
John McClain of the Houston Chronicle would be surprised
if Jadeveon Clowney is not traded.
Interesting.
Seattle offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer
wants Chris Carson to have 50 targets.
That would be very nice.
The Redskins are not listening to offers for Trent Williams,
their left tackle, according to ESPN.
So yeah, Golden Tate suspension upheld.
That means Sterling Shepard will be, without question,
the number one target, well, with Evan Ingram,
at Dallas, Buffalo, at Tampa Bay, and Washington.
Couple of good matchups in there, those first four games.
Darius Geis has not been cleared to play yet in games.
Case Keenum looks like the frontrunner to start for the Redskins,
according to the Washington Post.
Tom Brady wants to play until age 45.
And Marquise Brown, like we mentioned, does not appear to be at full strength.
All right, guys.
I do apologize.
You'll have to go a little quicker than usual on your sleepers.
Now, we have articles on the website, cbssports.com slash fantasy slash football,
where you can see all these sleepers.
I just picked a few.
Dave, Phillip Rivers, 18th quarterback off the board.
He's been top 12 six straight years.
He's a sleeper for you.
He's been top 10 each of the last three years.
He's also gotten off to a hot start each of the last five years.
20 or more fantasy points in six-point leagues
in at least three of five, if not six of seven.
Last year, it was six of seven when he gave you 20-plus fantasy points. So I love
Phillip Rivers as a late-round pick.
Perfect quarterback to pair with
Andrew Luck. Darwin Thompson's on my list.
We've been talking about him all summer
long, really since the draft. Delaney Walker,
criminally underrated.
He's healthy. He's going to be a
primo target for Marcus Mariota.
At least 800 yards, four
straight seasons. It's hard to find
that at tight end. Hold on one second.
Before you go to the last two, because I appreciate
you trying to speed it up. That's good stuff.
But we can spend a little more time.
Follow up on Phillip Rivers.
Does a Melvin Gordon
holdout impact him positively
or negatively?
I say it impacts him positively.
He'll have to throw a little bit more.
They don't have that great bull rusher
to try and maintain pace.
They might.
And Justin Jackson?
Maybe.
I like him a lot.
I know, but he's not going to play
as much as Eckler,
and Eckler's a good pass catcher
out of the backfield.
I'm excited about Phillip Rivers.
I have a hard time keeping him
out of my top 12.
He is out of my top 12,
but I'm taking him over Lamar Jackson, for example.
That's how much I like Philip Rivers.
Okay, are you taking Darwin Thompson over Carlos Hyde?
Yes or no?
I was, and now I'm not,
because I'm just, first of all,
I'm all over the place with the Chiefs,
because they're all over the place with their running back.
But I love the value in Thompson. I love what I saw from him in the first preseason game. I'm hoping to see more of it. I
hope he gets some first team reps in one of the next two preseason games with the Chiefs.
Love his potential. He's a great backup to Damian Williams in that offense in that he's a good pass
catcher out of the backfield. He's a good edge rusher. He's probably a better pass protector than Damian Williams. He's really good at that.
And he's just, he's somebody that I think can be a great bench stash to a potential starter.
Okay. And Delaney Walker, you mentioned he's the 12th tight end off the board on fantasy pros,
134th overall, 35 years old. But before last year, he was top seven in non-PPR,
top five in PPR three straight years.
Would you rather have Delaney Walker or Jordan Reed?
I have Reed one spot higher than Walker
because I think he's got more upside.
Okay, your next two sleepers.
But if you're worried about the injury with Reed,
forget about Reed, go right to Delaney Walker.
Alexander Madison and Miles Boykin.
So two rookies here.
I'll tell you this, though, Dave.
I was looking it up this morning.
Latavius Murray averaged only 6.8 carries per game
and had just 12 catches in nine games with Dalvin Cook playing.
Does that scare you at all?
No.
I'm drafting Madison in case of emergency with Dalvin Cook playing. Does that scare you at all? No, I'm drafting Madison
in case of emergency with Dalvin Cook.
He comes in and he's the starter for Minnesota.
I do not think he played very well
in their first preseason game.
Though he might be on some thin ice for me
as far as sleeper status goes.
And Boykin is a third round pick.
He's 6'4", 220 pounds out of Notre Dame.
He's currently basically undrafted.
Yeah, probably among—we've talked about rookie receivers already.
I like Nikhil Harry better, but he's going to be ready to go for the Ravens.
They don't have a lot at wide receiver.
Seems like he's fairly polished for a rookie.
That's funny because coming out of the draft,
that was like the knockout in there.
I know, but if you watch him play,
the biggest problem I actually have with him
is that there were three passes that maybe he could have caught.
One was behind him.
One was too high.
He got his hands on him.
I'd like to think that if he was truly polished
and all the way there, he'd catch those passes.
But if he's going to get a bunch of targets,
then you've got to like him.
Alright, Jamie, let's talk about some of
your sleepers, and we'll stick with that Ravens
offense. That prolific
Ravens offense. Lamar
Jackson is a sleeper for you.
He's QB 16 on Fantasy Pros
in average draft position.
Yeah, he's a top 12 guy for me. I have him
in number 11
right now. I just think there's a lot to like about what he should be able to do as a rusher.
We've talked about this quite a bit.
If he can be a 3,000-yard passer, I would not be surprised if he's challenging for a
1,000-yard rushing, given the fact that he was almost 700 yards last year in seven starts.
He obviously played a little bit more than that when he was coming on for Joe Flacco.
But I love the upside for what Lamar
Jackson could bring at the quarterback position. And at this point, I'm taking him over Andrew Luck.
There's just, you know, one of those things that if you want to pair two guys together,
that's a good opportunity to try and take these two in terms of Jackson and Luck. And, you know,
four points for passing touchdowns, he could be a top five guy.
Don't, hey, listen, you're, four points for passing touchdowns, he could be a top five guy. Don't, hey, listen.
You're forgetting the best Lamar Jackson pairing.
The Lamar Jackson-Drew Brees pairing.
Their schedules line up very nicely when Brees is on the road.
It's a fun little strategy that you could mess around with.
All right, cool.
Yeah, I think that's something you want to do, sure.
Latavius Murray?
Yeah, Latavius Murray and Royce Freeman.
You know, I think both guys in backup situations,
you know, on paper at least.
I was really impressed with how Murray played against the Vikings,
especially his role in the passing game.
And, you know, he's not going to be
what Mark Ingram was two years ago,
but he could be what Mark Ingram was last year.
And where you're getting him, you know,
round seven, round eight,
that's a pretty good value for somebody
that is clearly a lottery ticket as well.
Should something happen to Alvin Kamara,
you could be talking about a guy
that's a top 12 running back.
So he's creeping closer to top 25 status for me. ticket as well. Should something happen to Alvin Kamara, you could be talking about a guy that's a top 12 running back.
He's creeping closer to top 25 status for me.
In terms of Freeman,
I like the
fact that Theo Riddick's injury
I think will help him stay on the field a little bit more.
I'm not sold on Phillip Lindsay being the
featured guy like he was a year ago. I think they like
Freeman a lot. I do think that he's going to get an
increase in touches from a year ago. I'll they like Royce Freeman a lot. I do think that he's going to get an increase in touches from a year ago.
And I'll pass on Phillip Lindsey in that round four, round five range.
I mean, Royce Freeman's ADP on our side is a little bit out of control.
But, you know, if you're getting him around pick 100,
I think that's good value for him.
I already talked about Valdez Gantling, why I like him.
I think he's got, you know, big opportunity.
And the same thing with Dante Moncrief, you know.
It was a fairly good sign
that the Steelers held him out of the first preseason game because that gave him the opportunity,
I think, to show that he solidified himself as a starter. So if you want to get excited about
James Washington, I understand that. But I still think that Moncrief is the guy you want to target
first, along with Larry Fitzgerald as somebody that could be a good late round flyer for you as the potential number one guy for the Cardinals. And then Mark Andrews is a tight end
I'm very excited about. I think, you know, you look at what Lamar Jackson did with him at the
end of last season. The one game I'll point to is the playoff game against the Chargers when
they were chasing points. He led them in targets with seven. So while Myles Boykin's getting some
positive hype, they obviously drafted Marquise Brown. Mark Andrews has gotten a lot of good offseason
pub, and rightfully so. I think he's going to have an opportunity for a good season.
He's a top 10 tight end for me.
Okay. You'd rather have him than Delaney Walker or Jordan Reed?
Yeah. I think he's one of those guys we talk about all the time, the sophomore breakouts
at tight end, and I think he's the chance to be that guy this season.
And Dave, I don't know if you have him ranked ahead of Walker
and Reed, but you also like Mark Andrews.
He's around that range. I do.
And I love his schedule to begin the year as well.
Baltimore has Miami in week one, Arizona in week
two, I think Cincinnati in week
three. I gotta say...
Nope, Kansas City in week three.
He's gonna get a lot of targets, and
he meshed well with Lamar Jack. Sorry, Dave.
I'm sure we all watched the Ravens' preseason game
because they play their starters more than most teams.
And the numbers were pretty good for Lamar Jackson.
He didn't run the ball at all, which was weird.
I thought he looked pretty bad.
That was not their offense.
Yeah, I didn't think he looked good, to be honest.
I agree.
He looked okay.
I don't want to say he looked bad.
I just think he looked okay.
The first pass was amazing.
The thing you have to understand with what their offense is going to be
is it's going to be a lot of him doing heavy lifting.
And so if you are afraid of him getting hurt, understandable.
If you are concerned about him not being the prettiest passer,
that's not going to be the heat.
He's not going to get a lot of style points with the way that he throws the ball
and the way that his receivers who are young, Boykin and Marquise Brown, if they're healthy, are going to get a lot of style points with the way that he throws the ball and the way that his receivers who are young,
Boykin and Marquise Brown, if they're healthy, are going to play a lot.
But I think you have to understand that if he can be successful enough as a passer
with what he'll be able to do with his legs,
that's why you win your fantasy leagues is when you take guys like this.
We've talked about it for years, about what these running quarterbacks do,
and he's going to do it better than anybody else. Can he get you 175 passing yards,
50 rushing yards, and two total touchdowns a game? Can he average that? Yes. Without any turnovers?
Well, if he can do it without many turnovers, then he's going to be phenomenal.
No, but that's not so... Well, let's do the points on that, right? 50 rushing yards is five.
It's 24, I believe.
It's 12 for the touchdowns.
You add five for the rushing yards, and then it's seven for the passing yards.
No, it's not.
How many?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
24 without any turnovers, though.
24 without any turnovers.
Now you're down to 20 or 22.
24 points per game.
You will sign up for 24 points per game from a quarterback outside of the round seven range
every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
That sounds like a guy I'd rather have.
It's just a matter of whether or not he can actually do that for 16 games,
which my chips are on the don't on that.
I mean, those stats there sound like a guy that I'd love in four-point-per-passing touchdown leagues
and would like as a backup in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues.
But what I was going to say is like,
look,
if you put a lot of stock in the Ravens offense,
it could go badly because he's,
he hasn't been a very good passer and we don't know what it's going to look like.
But the good thing is other than Mark Ingram,
they're all going late,
you know?
So it's,
it's worth the gamble.
It's worth the gamble.
And I love the other part of it.
You know,
one thing that he sold me on,
it's,
you know,
think about the rookie quarterbacks over the last few years and how bad they were as throwers.
He's probably the worst.
But Carson Wentz, not a good thrower as a rookie.
Jared Goff, terrible rookie season.
Mitch Trubisky, terrible rookie season.
And then they got better.
And that's what you have to see.
And that's why Sam Darnold should be on people's sleepers list.
And you know what?
You're right.
Two of those three quarterbacks you mentioned, Jamie, changed schemes.
Darnold also changed schemes.
And Lamar Jackson, changing schemes.
So I think that that's a huge factor.
All right.
Heath had about five minutes left.
And I'm more actually interested in the listener sleepers because you can read Heath sleepers.
But he does have Lamar Jackson.
He does have Marquez Valdez-Scantling.
He has Justin Jackson, who we like.
Would you rather have Justin Jackson or Royce Freeman?
Freeman.
At the value right now, I will take Justin Jackson,
but I do expect Melvin Gordon to play at some point this year,
so Freeman is better.
Matt Breida is on Heath sleepers list,
and Jarek McKinnon could start the year
on Pup. Would you rather have Breida or
Royce Freeman?
I will still draft Freeman
ahead of Breida, but
Breida's a must-get if you
invest in Tevin Coleman.
I'll take Freeman. I don't know if he's a must-get
because Coleman hopefully will stay healthy.
Yeah, hopefully.
And he likes Tyrell Williams. You know that
from Heath. You've heard that a lot. And he likes Jordan
Reid a lot. And quite frankly,
I'm not sure how I feel about Jordan Reid, but I am sure
that he shouldn't be the 21st tight end off the board.
No, it's ridiculous.
So here's...
I thought the listeners really came up with some good names.
I will try to
avoid the ones we've already talked about. But Jeremy
Black said Dexter Williams, Green Bay running back, is a sleeper.
Agree or disagree?
Disagree.
Disagree.
Okay.
Not yet, right?
I mean, there have to be some injuries.
James said Dak Prescott is a sleeper.
I don't know.
Maybe he'd be more of a breakout.
Do you guys think that there's like massive upside Dak Prescott? Or big upside, I guess?
Not big upside, but he's one of many quarterbacks
that can be a serviceable starter for your fantasy team.
Quietek on Twitter said Tony Romo is a sleeper.
And then Phil said Michael Gallup is a sleeper.
So between Prescott, Romo, and Gallup,
any sleepers in that list?
If you get points for singing into the future,
Tony Romo is like a first-round pick.
Gallup?
Maybe.
He's a decent bench receiver, I'd say.
I don't know if I'd ever start him and feel good about him.
If Amari Cooper's got a foot problem, then you're going to be excited
about Michael Gallup.
If Cooper's foot keeps him out,
Ezekiel Elliott's holding out,
Michael Gallup looks like a diamond.
Yeah, but just
independent of that, let's say Cooper plays,
Zeke plays, he could easily be
the second leading
receiver on the team.
What does that mean?
He should be. 800 yards, 5 does that mean? It should be.
800 yards, five touchdowns.
I don't know.
Deeper leagues, I guess.
But that's Michael Gallup.
Eric Hansen says Anthony Miller.
Anthony Miller.
We talked about him.
Dave, you like him.
Stay healthy.
CJ says James Washington.
Agree or disagree?
Man, if he plays like he did in the first preseason game,
that's going to be a layup.
I still think Moncrief begins the year as the number two receiver opposite Juju.
Here's a question.
How often are the Steelers going to play in a three receiver set this year?
I think that comes down to how much Washington progresses.
He looks leaner.
He's leaner.
He's certainly fast.
If he's playing well,
they're going to put him on the field a ton.
And now we're talking about him as an outside receiver,
Moncrief as an outside receiver.
You can make the case for why.
The answer is yes, Washington is a good sleeper.
Okay.
Just for the record, Juju did not play in the preseason opener, right?
Right. He did not.
Nor did Ben. Woody says, Marquise Goodwin is getting no love for the record, Juju did not play in the preseason opener, right? Right. He did not. Nor did Ben.
Woody says, Marquise Goodwin is getting no love for the Niners.
He's the only wide receiver that has a guaranteed spot in their starting lineup.
That's interesting because there's reports that he may not make the final roster because of his salary. I think that Dante Pettis' struggles are helping Marquise Goodwin just by default
because I think that they would like to have a veteran presence.
I actually spoke to George Kittle yesterday as part of my marathon of interviews
with a variety of different NFL personalities. And I asked Kittle about the young receiving
core there. And he said he likes all of them. You know, he said he thinks that there's an
opportunity for all these guys to make plays, including Marquis Goodwin. So I wouldn't rule
him out. And I think that is a good call. He was somebody I was more excited about before he
suffered an injury of practice last week. He did not play in the first preseason game.
You could take that maybe as a positive sign that they
were holding him out because he's a veteran and
that his role is solidified. But
I also think that the more that Deebo Samuel
and Jalen Hurd make plays, it's not a good situation
for Marquise Goodwin. But I don't have a problem taking a flyer
on him if you're talking about a 15-round draft
or larger than a 15-round draft.
Round 13? Yeah.
Double digits for sure.
Would you take Debo Samuel or Marquise Goodwin?
At this point, I'm taking Debo Samuel.
But again, if you want to just take a shot in the dark,
I think it's not a bad idea to take a shot on Marquise Goodwin.
Yeah, I'm taking Debo.
Dustin says,
Jamie better be right about Curtis Samuel.
Yeah, at his draft price, that might be true.
I cannot recall a player getting this much preseason hype from so many
sources. It's amazing.
The funny thing is, it's not just coming
from one person. It's coming from so many
different people.
It's crazy.
Obviously, I was
taking him at a spot which was
very good value in our early drafts.
He's going like round five in some drafts I've seen
and round six in others.
And it's like, it's frustrating.
Yeah, I know.
Makes you want to take DJ Moore
when DJ Moore slides on down.
He did in one draft I just did.
All right, guys.
Rapid fire here for the end.
Agree or disagree on these sleepers? Hunter Renf draft. I just did. All right, guys. Rapid fire here for the end. Agree or disagree on these
sleepers? Hunter Renfro.
Disagree.
Only in the deepest of PPR.
Chris said Justice Hill and
Jay Mills said Gus Edwards.
Agree, disagree in that
order. Right. Yeah. If
Ingram gets hurt, who gets the carries? I think it might be
Gus. I think it's going to be
Gus with more Justice Hill.
Okay. Cole Beasley.
Deepest
of PPR league. Ahead of Hunter Renfro,
but not by much. Last one.
Terry McLaurin. McLaurin for the Redskins.
Rookie receiver for the Redskins. Terry McLaurin.
They've been
saying that he looks great. It's
just the Redskins
and a rookie receiver.
He might not actually put up good numbers
until he's back on the field with Dwayne Haskins.
They were teammates at Ohio.
Well, my apologies to the listeners.
You know, I'm a big apologizer.
I'm sure it's an attractive quality in a host,
but I thought we'd have more time today.
Had an audio issue at the start.
Jamie, what was I saying at the start?
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