Fantasy Football Today - 08/15: Breakouts! And More Injuries (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 15, 2019

Jameis Winston, Kenny Golladay, Kerryon Johnson, Dalvin Cook. These are a few of our favorite breakouts! We discuss some of them at the top of the show and contemplate what to do with a late Round 2/e...arly Round 3 pick (6:55). Do you go RB or WR there? ... ADP Alert (13:10)! Todd Gurley is creeping into the first round. Also find out how to get into our Podcast League! And then we'll give you all the big news items you need to know (18:30) including notes on Kenyan Drake, Amari Cooper, Jimmy Garoppolo and Damien Harris ... We debate Fantasy combos (26:00), give our Fantasy Draft walk-up music (30:00), provide tips for how to draft with picks 5-8 (31:40) and give more breakouts as we reveal some of Jamey's breakouts (35:50), some of Heath's breakouts (44:00) and listener breakouts (50:30) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Oh yeah, here we go. Breakouts.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Yesterday we talked sleepers, today breakouts. Breakouts are even better than sleepers, so we're hopefully going to be talking about some great players. We're going to help you win your fantasy leagues today. Dave's not here, but Jamie's here and Heath is here. They're going to help you win your fantasy leagues this season. Sorry I messed up your names. Good morning, guys. No problem, Alan. It's nice to be here with you. Chris and Ben. How are you doing today? Yeah, Chris and Ben, we're all doing great. I think you'll probably hear Ben on tomorrow's podcast. We'll do busts and we'll recap the preseason games. We are going to talk about the Podcast League and how to get in. So I'm actually very excited for today's show.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Don't mess it up. The Podcast League, I emailed all three of Dave, Jamie, and Heath. I probably should have emailed Ben, too. He's part of the team. A date. I said, hey, can you guys make the draft on this night? They didn't respond. So I'm just going to make that a yes.
Starting point is 00:01:12 It's going to be Wednesday. What's that? What night? Wednesday, August 28th. Can't do it. Why? I think I only have one draft. I only have one draft that night.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I should be good. I can do two at once. What's your problem, Jamie? Yeah, it's fine. Okay, cool. Wednesday, August 28th. If you can't make it, don't submit. If not, I'll just give away the team.
Starting point is 00:01:32 No, you won't. I will tell you what you need to do to get in. All right, that's coming up later. Who are your favorite breakouts? Let's get one, and then we'll have a whole bunch of breakouts in the second half of the show, including good ones from our listeners. Heath, who's your favorite breakout this year? Is it someone that you put on both your sleeper and your breakout list?
Starting point is 00:01:50 I love all my breakouts equally. But for favorite, I'll go with the guy that I think could be a top five pick in the following year, and it's Dalvin Cook. Get a Minnesota team that's going to run the ball much more than they did last year if the final three games are any indication. Cook, according to Pete Prisco, could challenge for the league leaders in rushing yards. I expect him to get more touchdowns with Latavius Murray gone.
Starting point is 00:02:14 He's going to be heavily involved in the passing game. Dalvin Cook could be a top five running back this year and a top five pick next year. Okay. So Heath emailed me some sleepers yesterday and some breakouts today, or two days ago and the day before, whatever. And Lamar Jackson was on both his lists,
Starting point is 00:02:31 so I thought he might go with him. But he's going with Dalvin Cook, who's going 18th overall. Heath, are you concerned, though, that their rookie center, Garrett Bradbury, first-round pick, according to Kirk Cousins, has a pretty sweaty butt. And they are somewhat worried about fumbling the snaps.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I'm not sure if you saw that story last week. I did not see the story about the sweaty butt. But from what I understand, the part of Kirk Cousins' hand that's supposed to be touching the center's butt should not be touching the football. So I don't think it should cause any fumbling issues. Yeah, he expressed some concern about all of Garrett Bradbury's sweat. And that's a light little note for you here on Fantasy Football today. Jamie, who is your favorite breakout? My favorite breakout?
Starting point is 00:03:19 Kerryon Johnson. I am so excited about his opportunity this year to be a three down back. I just hope he stays. Both those guys. I hope Dalvin Cook and Kerryon Johnson stay healthy because I agree with Heath. I think we could be talking about two guys that are challenging to be top five running backs next season if they can play 16 games and do what they're
Starting point is 00:03:37 capable of doing. Kerryon was playing really well last year before he suffered a knee injury, really starting to pick up steam. He's got an injury track record. It's hard to overlook that. But again, I think, you know, the Lions making the move to get rid of Theo Riddick is to involve this guy more in the passing game. I hope he doesn't lose anything to CJ Anderson, at least too much on the ground game, you
Starting point is 00:03:58 know, touchdown opportunities, etc. But I think he can be one of the more special running backs in the NFL. I thought that last year. And I hope that this is the season that he puts it all together. Yeah, so if you're sitting there back end of round two, maybe starting toward the middle of round two in a 12-team league, because Cook is going 18th overall, depending on where you look and what ADP. And carry on Johnson 21st overall.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Who do you guys prefer, carry on or Cook? I like carry on a little bit better. Yeah, I think it may just come down to format for me. I believe I have Dalvin one spot higher in non-PPR and carry on one spot higher in PPR. Okay. And I just want to throw in another... Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:04:38 No, go ahead. Okay, I'll go. I just want to throw in another name who sort of fits the mold and is being drafted in the same range but a little bit later than these two, and that's Leonard Fournette. And I think when you look at Fournette and Kerryon Johnson, you are getting what you want. Okay, remember we talked about in the running back preview, what do you want?
Starting point is 00:04:56 You want someone who's going to dominate touches to get an elite running back. Dominate touches, hopefully have 50 or more catches, and be on a good offense. Of those three, those are obviously not the only criteria, but they're important. Of those three, how would you rank them in terms of who meets that criteria? That's the interesting part is I think now, especially with Theo Riddick gone, if you're looking at those three criteria,
Starting point is 00:05:26 we may have three different answers. I think Leonard Fournette is the most likely to fully dominate touches. And we've seen him do that in the past in Jacksonville. They don't really have another talented back on the team. Currently. I think that Dalvin cook is probably on the best offense of the three and carry on Johnson. Now it may be the most likely to catch 50 passes. Okay. I think all three of these three, and Karyon Johnson now may be the most likely to catch 50 passes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I think all three of these guys have the chance to be just fantastic. I just want to bring up something, because I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday who's just starting to get looking at his league, say his draft this weekend. So he's picking in the back end of a 10-team league. I think he's picking eight. And so I told him, you know, I'd probably go receiver-receiver. It's a three-receiver league. It's PPR. And he asked me, you know, who are some
Starting point is 00:06:07 running backs I'll be looking at in round three and round four. And he brought up carry on Johnson. I said, no, you know, you're, you're probably not going to get that. Now that may be the case in some leagues that, you know, aren't necessarily looking at him as one of these guys that are in this range, you know, back end of round two type of guys yet. So, you know, you may have some scenarios where he slips, but I think it's, you know, one, one thing that, you know, people, when they start doing their prep now, because a lot of this is when it's happening, you know, our audience is a little bit different, but you know, we are still picking up people along the way is like, don't look at what happened a year ago to some of these guys cook getting hurt for net, you know, struggling, getting hurt, carry onon Johnson getting hurt, and the teams that they're on.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I know Minnesota's obviously a very good football team, but the Jaguars struggled last year, and obviously Detroit's been bad for several years. They're going to be in very good situations if they stay healthy. It's all about health with these guys. If they play 16 games, they're going to put up tremendous stats. And if you're someone who finds running backs to be a little bit too risky there, like if you started off your team with one of the big four running backs,
Starting point is 00:07:04 and I'm going to ask you guys in a little bit where you're going to take Ezekiel Elliott, but if you're a little gun-shy on running backs in rounds two and three, where you would be taking Cook or Kerryon Johnson or Leonard Fournette, maybe there's someone else in that mix. You know, I think
Starting point is 00:07:20 what you've got to notice right now is with the wide receivers, Amari Cooper might miss the rest of the preseason with a foot injury. T.Y. Hilton's got this Andrew Luck issue going on. Antonio Brown is Antonio Brown. I'm wondering if just the last few days, the events of the last few days have made these running backs look a little bit better in comparison to the wide receivers there.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I guess it just depends if you want to go running back, running back to start your draft. Or running back, wide receiver, running back. But yeah, let's say two in your first three picks. I mean, I know we've seen this a lot of take one of the top four backs, especially if you're picking on the swing. If you're picking first, you're going Barkley, receiver, receiver. We just tend to see that a lot more than we see Barkley, Fournette, Hilton.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I haven't seen that. I don't want to speak for anybody else. But I think it just comes down to don't want to speak for anybody else. I think it just comes down to how you want to build your team and do you want to take the best player available? If you're inclined to take another one of these running backs, and it's probably going to be Carrion or Fournette. I don't think Dalvin Cook,
Starting point is 00:08:18 at least I haven't seen him slip that far. It's not a bad route to go, but that's where the tight ends come into play too you know of Zach Ertz and George Kittle the back end of round two early round three you have you know still other receivers that people are taking this is where Adam Thielen is going based on ADP I think you can make a case for you know Stefan Diggs, Brandon Cooks you know maybe in PPR Julian Edelman. I cannot make a case for Brandon Cooks
Starting point is 00:08:43 that early. I'm not saying that you have to. I'm just saying those are the receivers in the mix. I'm asking you to compare them to those running backs, though. What do you think now? I think at this point, I tend to gravitate toward the receivers there, just because, especially if you're talking about
Starting point is 00:08:59 three-receiver league, it's hard to pass up on what those guys could be able to do. But again, if you want the best player, Fournette or on johnson or in in dalvin cook's case if he falls are probably the best player yeah and i was just looking at nffc adp they've had 110 drafts since august 1st and carry on is still a third round pick at 27.8 adp leon Leonard Fournette's one spot ahead of him, 27.6. So if you've got one of the, like it's not difficult, it doesn't look like to get one of those guys, if you start with one of the elite running backs,
Starting point is 00:09:34 take a wide receiver or tight end in round two, and you still have Fournette or Carrion as your number two running back. Well, here's an interesting one though. Okay, let's say you start with an elite running back, then you take a wide receiver in round two, it's keenan allen or mike evans or something and then in round three you kind of want to take harry on johnson or leonard fournette i i think i would probably do that in a two wide receiver league but in a three receiver league that also includes a flex i don't know what i would do there i would probably lean wide
Starting point is 00:10:03 receiver i think my strategy would change depending on the format there. Because it dries up pretty quickly in three receiver leagues. By the time you get back to your pick in round four, you're going to have hopefully Galladay, Godwin, guys like that. Not bad, but I don't know. I think I'd lean toward that second tier, tier two receiver. There's just not one of those receivers that I'd rather have than carry on our four net.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I don't really feel like T Y Hilton has top five upside at wide receiver. Um, I don't really feel like Edelman or digs or Thielen or Cooper or cooks have top five upside for net and cook both do. I think the only thing I think that... And Johnson and Cook. I agree with you. The ceiling for each guy at their positions is different,
Starting point is 00:10:50 but the floor is a little bit different too. And that's the problem, is that the receivers are safer. And so we've just seen it. Fournette, as good as he was as a rookie, missed three games. As Dalvin Cook has shown us, he's missed more games than he's played.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Kerryon Johnson last year, you know, couldn't stay healthy after starting to, you know, finally get his workload ramped up. So there, there are, there are clearly flaws with these guys. If there weren't,
Starting point is 00:11:11 you know, we'd see a lot more running backs going into the first round. Okay. Uh, and Dave gave me some breakouts too. So I wanted to mention one. He had a guy I'd never heard of before. Curtis Eisenberg,
Starting point is 00:11:20 I think was his name. So, um, do we have a picture of, uh, Jamie with Curtis Eisenberg? See if we got that here. Oh, there he is.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Jamie with his CBS blanket with Curtis Samuel and Lamar Jackson, arms draped around both of them. If you're not watching, you should be watching our show on YouTube.com slash Fantasy Football Today or with CBS All Access. You can watch the full show. Very adorable, Jamie. You're a company man with that CBS blanket. It's honestly one of the best things they've ever given me. Do you recognize the couch?
Starting point is 00:11:49 Is that still my couch? Yeah, I mean, this is an old picture. Curtis Samuel's hair is before we cut my middle son's hair, which was two years ago. But yeah, that's the couch that you sold me. I'm not going to fight over Curtis Samuel, but Jamie can be like the stepdad of Lamar Jackson. He's just over there for a visit. Yeah, that's Heath's guy, Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I think with moving Luck down, I may have put him higher than you. I may have him ranked higher than you. Oh, my. Oh, my. All right, today's sponsors. We got three of them. FanDuel, fanduel.com slash FFT. Go to fanduel.com slash FFT. Get a $5 bonus on your first deposit and compete against us. FanDuel, fanduel.com slash FFT. Go to fanduel.com slash FFT. Get a $5 bonus on your first deposit and compete against us in FanDuel.
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Starting point is 00:13:25 just inside that top 12. There you can see if you're looking at us on youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday or on All Access, you can see the graphs of his ADP. It is rising, guys. Todd Gurley. It's funny because we just got through talking about three running backs that have a hard time staying healthy
Starting point is 00:13:42 and that they should be taken in the back end of the second round, or middle in the back end of the second round, or middle to the back end of the second round, and they have top five upside. There's a guy in Todd Gurley who's been a top five running back obviously, you know, for the last couple of years, the number one running back, and right now
Starting point is 00:13:58 he's healthy. I mean, we haven't had anything. There's been nothing that said, oh, his knee is bothering him. There's been issues. Now, he hasn't played is bothering him. There's been issues. Now, he hasn't played a game yet. There's a huge difference in that. Has he been tackled yet? We don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Yeah. I mean, I'm going to assume he's taken some contact. Yeah, I have not seen anything indicating that he was fully participating. But there's been nothing. He's taking a day off, at least reports. You know, he may have and nobody's reported it. But he's taking a day off of practice because of maintenance or there's swelling in his knee or anything and when we're talking about right now you know um
Starting point is 00:14:30 andrew luck potentially missing time and you know there's there's varying scales of how we're dropping him in our rankings two prominent running backs that are missing due to contract holdouts like can you really say right now if you're drafting you feel more confident week one ezekiel elliott's going to be there or todd girley's going to be there and. Can you really say right now if you're drafting, you feel more confident week one, Ezekiel Elliott's going to be there or Todd Gurley's going to be there? And how would you draft those two guys if in fact you know that one is starting to potentially miss games?
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah, I feel more confident Gurley's going to be there. I don't feel more confident Gurley has a better chance at 300 touches. I don't disagree with that. But what I'm saying is when you start to build your roster, because that's what we're talking about here. We're not talking about 16 games. We're talking about building your roster. And so the construction of your roster, how you're framing build your roster, because that's what we're talking about here. We're not talking about 16 games. We're talking about building your roster.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And so the construction of your roster, how you're framing everything right now, it's like Gurley's starting to seem a little bit more attractive. Yeah. There has not been much movement on NFC in terms of ADP. Still 17th. I don't know if that's a lot of mocks that are driving that up, but it could happen. I feel a little better about
Starting point is 00:15:25 him than i did but i think it's mid-second still better okay all right that's todd girley and we'll keep you updated on his average draft position we're also going to tell you how to get into the podcast league and we got some big time news and notes odell beckham amari cooper kenyan drake uh jj arthego whiteside yes that is how you pronounce it. Andrew Luck, Jimmy Garoppolo threw five straight passes to the defense yesterday. We're going to talk about all that right after this break on Fantasy Football today. Kick off an exciting
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Starting point is 00:16:45 Connex Ontario helpline at 1-866-531-2600. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. News and notes. In just a second, you want to know how to get in the Podcast League? Wednesday, August 28th. Here we go. It's at 8pm
Starting point is 00:17:03 Eastern. If you cannot make it please do not submit if you can make that time we are looking for something fun something creative i'm just gonna make it vague and throw it out there if you want to do a little song you know like for our baseball podcast last year we had this john gray you can draft him if you want to. Stuff like that. It was actually pretty funny. We had other songs. I can play them for you some other time.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Come up with something. Somebody made a March Madness-style bracket of all my terrible takes on movies and music and pop culture. That stuff's great. So send an email to fantasyfootballatcbsi.com, the letter I, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com, and put podcast league in the subject line, podcast league, and then do whatever you got to do. If you don't want to do something creative, not everybody. I'll pick some that are not like that, just like heartfelt stuff, whatever it is. You want to pour your heart out, tell me why you want to be in the league.
Starting point is 00:18:04 But we'd like some funny stuff that we can share on the podcast. Poems. Whatever the heck you want to do. What I don't want, what won't win is a parody of a song that's not recorded. Just like, hey, here's a parody. Here are some lyrics. Those don't really translate well. We've got a lot of those for baseball.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Try not to do that for football. If you have to actually go out and record something, that's pretty cool. And please send me a YouTube link instead of an actual file if you possibly can do that. So again, it's Wednesday, August 28th, 8 p.m. Eastern. Fantasy Football Today at CBSi.com and put Podcast League in the subject line. And I just gave myself a lot of work. Okay, news and notes. Just tell me how concerned you are if you're moving them down in your rankings or anything. Odell Beckham
Starting point is 00:18:45 has a minor hip issue. Not yet. No. Amari Cooper has a ligament issue in his foot. He's unlikely to play in the preseason. Not yet. Really? Okay. Kenyon Drake going to miss the rest of the preseason with a foot injury.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Most likely. Yeah. going to miss the rest of the preseason with a foot injury. Most likely. Yeah, I dropped him to running back 27 in PPR. I think running back 30 in non-PPR, still ahead of Balazs for me in both formats. I'm a little bit lower in both formats for Drake. I think in non-PPR, they're like two or three spots apart, Drake and Balazs. It's just... It sucks.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Right, but you know, this is kind of what I was talking about with Andrew Luck, right? I mean, could this actually be a good thing for Kenyon Drake if you want him on draft day? Maybe he misses a game or two. Maybe he doesn't miss any games. But he should be the starter when he comes back. You'd think he would get more work than Balazs. You know, would you
Starting point is 00:19:44 rather take Kenyon Drake? There's no indication that that's going to happen, though. You're right in theory that he's going to get more work than Balazs. You don't think so? In theory, yes. But I would have said that last year, too. That he was going to
Starting point is 00:19:59 get more work than Frank Gore. Would you take Miles Sanders or Kenyon Drake? Drake still. Tony Romo more work than Frank Gore. Would you take Miles Sanders or Kenyon Drake? Sanders. Drake still. Drake and PPR. Tony Romo is high on Sam Darnold. Again, we might be
Starting point is 00:20:14 sleeping on Sam Darnold. I understand. You don't really have to draft him. There are so many good quarterbacks, but a two-quarterback league... I moved him up. He's in my top 20 now. The Eagles like J.J. Ortega Whiteside, rookie receiver, rookie wide receiver, could be a factor this year according to Yahoo. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:20:31 It'd be nice to see. You know, I think there's just so many mouths to feed. You know, I think the thing that will help him is maybe Dallas Goddard missing some time. You know, now he gets an opportunity to sort of, you know, get in some more three receiver sets as opposed to the two tight end sets that they run a lot. So, you know, if he's kicking Nelson Aguilar off the field
Starting point is 00:20:48 and they can do some creative things with Jeffrey and Jackson and Whiteside, or they go Whiteside, it would be fun to see. But I can't see him being a significant redraft factor if everybody stays healthy. It's great for wins. It's awful for fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:21:04 It's another downgrade for Jeffrey. Frank Reich wants to make a decision on a week one starting quarterback by the end of the third preseason game. So we have a little bit of time there. Just that sentence alone is terrifying. Yeah, yeah. Not that you said luck.
Starting point is 00:21:18 You said week one starting quarterback. How could you draft luck as a starter right now? Because you can draft a second quarterback who's still good enough to be a starter whilst having it upside it's just hurting your roster though but but not if it's around 10 you know i mostly agree with you adam i i there's no floor at all but the upside is that he's the number two quarterback in fantasy. I don't think anything's happened that's changed that upside. A recurrence of the injury, maybe, that they haven't diagnosed.
Starting point is 00:21:53 He might not play. That's the floor, though. That's not the upside. If he plays 16 games, he still might be the number two quarterback in fantasy. I'm not taking him near as high as where he were. You don't have to. He's available in the double-digit rounds now, and you should take it. Jimmy Garoppolo, are we still going to take him?
Starting point is 00:22:08 He threw five straight interceptions in practice. Against the team last year that led the league in fewest interceptions. I wouldn't worry about that. He's boosting their confidence. There was some player on Twitter saying interception in practice are actually a good thing because it means you're trying something different. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And they start off their season with the Buccaneers and the Bengals. That might be the perfect guy to pair with Andrew Luck. There you go. George Kittle day-to-day with calf tightness. Maybe that's why Garoppolo threw all those interceptions. I spoke to him two days ago. He said he's fine. I'm sure he wasn't going to tell me that his calf is broken,
Starting point is 00:22:46 but he did say, I'm fine. New England rookie running back Damian Harris has a minor hand injury, which might be why we've gotten glowing reports on Sonny Michel, but Harris is a little bit behind right now. Joe Phan of NBC Sports thinks that Chris Carson will get at least two-thirds of the running back work. You know, it's a lot of good press on Carson lately.
Starting point is 00:23:07 So if that's true, he's a top 12 running back. I keep moving them up. You know, it's funny. I'm going to do my, my last version of sleepers, breakouts and busts.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And he was a bus for me all off season, just because I thought he wasn't going to be healthy and Rashad Penny more work. And the beginning of that column is going to be my apology to Chris Carson. Matt Nagy says Mitchell Trubisky is recognizing defenses better than he did last year. And when would you draft Melvin Gordon, guys, real quick? Same. Around the early fourth.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah. When would you draft Ezekiel Elliott? The first round. Fourth. When in the first round, Jamie? Fourth. Fourth jamie fourth fourth okay yep gonna start to slide though i wanted to give these numbers i looked at the elite running backs which actually didn't really include zeke last year because the touchdowns were low but on a per game basis you know other than girly girly was a lot better than everybody but you know what we're talking about
Starting point is 00:24:02 gordon barkley camara mcafree they averaged in non-PPR about three and a half to four and a half more points per game than Devontae Adams or DeAndre Hopkins. In half PPR, those guys were about three points better than Adams and Hopkins. In PPR, those elite running backs other than Gurley were about one and a half to two and a half points better per game than Hopkins and Adams. It does not mean that it will happen again, But if you're sitting there going, well, is Hopkins really a big downgrade from Zeke? Potentially, yeah. Not because Hopkins isn't great, but because he's not going to have 2,000 total yards. And Zeke probably will come close to
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Starting point is 00:24:59 It was just awful. You probably want to go see it now because I said all this. I mean, it sounds like it's probably a pretty good show. Everybody loves it. So, you know, people that best show on TV. I thought I couldn't believe it. All right. I'm going to be on CBS Sports HQ today with these
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Starting point is 00:25:31 After that, it's $9.99. We're getting a lot of auction questions lately. So next week, we're going to do a format episode. 10 teams, 12 teams, 14 teams, 3 receiver, 2 receiver, PPR, half PPR, whatever. Auctions. Format episode. And make sure you're signing up on CBS with the commissioner product. It is the best, the best place to play.
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Starting point is 00:26:28 What's wrong with it? Yeah, I'll go with Hopkins and Cook. What's wrong with fantasy combos? Nothing at all. I just said I loved it. What are you talking about? I think it's great. Okay, which combo would you rather have?
Starting point is 00:26:42 Travis Kelsey and Josh Jacobs or Nick Chubb and George Kittle? Chubb and Kittle. Chubb and Kittle. I don't think it's close. No. Right, I mean... That was a really bad one. No, but it's ADP.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I'm not just making it up. It's based on average draft. Oh, no, no. I'm not saying it's your fault. I'm just saying it's not close. Oh, I'm not yelling at you. I'm yelling at Heath. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Oh, now I'm choking. Karma. All right. Pete Prisco. There you go. Thank you. I'm choking. Karma. All right. Pete Prisco, there you go. Thank you. I'll Pete Prisco in a second. Half PPR. Would you rather have the Seahawks running backs, Carson in the fourth,
Starting point is 00:27:12 and Penny in the seventh, or David Montgomery in the third, and Tariq Cohen in the sixth? A little earlier investment on the Bears, or a slightly later investment in the Seahawks? The Seahawks. Yeah, I think the Seahawks, you're the best player on the Seahawks. I would rather have Cohen than Penny,
Starting point is 00:27:32 but I'll take the Seahawks. Would you rather have Montgomery or Carson? And also, you just said last combo that I said was terrible. I'm not choosing these. This is where these guys are being taken. And then you give us one where both players are a full round apart.
Starting point is 00:27:49 What do you mean? This is not comparable. No, because Montgomery's late third round and Carson's early fourth round. Okay. Who would you rather have between those two, jerk? Carson and the Seahawks. No, no, no. Between just Carson versus Montgomery. Carson. Easilyahawks. No, no, no. Between just Carson versus Montgomery. Carson.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Easily. All right. We're taking a break. We got a lot of breakouts to talk about, plus your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Did you know that across Ontario, utility damage happens 19 times a day?
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Starting point is 00:28:55 Dear James McGregor and Sean Blankey. I have no idea. Oh, Connor. Connors. They're Connors. That's right. James Connor, Connor McGregor, Oh, Connors. Connors. They're Connors. That's right. James Conner, Conner McGregor, and Sean Connery. Just hosted an epic live draft weekend,
Starting point is 00:29:11 and I wanted to share a clever live draft idea that was a big hit with my league mates. I had each league mate send me five songs to add to a shared playlist for the weekend, but their number one song was used as their walk-up music for the draft. This was an awesome feeling to hear your song and get amped for your pick, as well as a way to keep things moving if their song ended and they hadn't made their pick.
Starting point is 00:29:31 We'd heckle them. Kept it going through the first four rounds, then switched to the full playlist. Everyone loved it, so I thought I'd share this nice live draft touch. I would love to hear what each of you guys would pick for your walk-up song. This is an outstanding idea. I love it. I have three different answers. Well, actually, I'm sorry, Heath. I chose for you, if you don't mind.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Right. I understand, but I thought I was supposed to answer the question. Coming up now to draft. Pick it in the four spot. Here it is. Country fan. Heath Cummings. How you feeling, Heath? Who are you going to take?
Starting point is 00:30:14 This song is one of the worst songs ever made, and it makes me very angry. My actual answer was going to be, if I was drafting with you, Adam, it would be the one that you've given me that Heath is on. Yeah, of course. If I was drafting with these guys, I probably pick stairway to heaven because you get longer to pick than everyone else that's good i like that so i think those are the best answers all right jamie i have your walk-up music too uh listeners alerted me to this random weezer song called jamie There you go, Jamie. You can pick now.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I like it. Would you have walk-up music in mind or no? No. Okay. Yeah, I didn't think so. That's not Jamie's style. I think you should go with the last Boy Scout theme song. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:04 All right. Anyway, this is what I would choose. Email of the day number two is from Dan from a city on Lake Michigan. Dear Mike, Teddy, Willie, and Dante, those are Patriots linebackers, you've talked a lot about strategy for early picks and later picks in the first three rounds.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Consensus seems to be that early picks go heavy on running back and late picks go heavy on wide receivers. But what about... What about picks six through eight? What do you do in the middle of the draft? Yeah, we probably don't talk about that quite as much, guys. What would your strategy be for a middle pick?
Starting point is 00:31:40 I think in PPR, it's still receivers. You know, you're just looking at the group of backs, and if you want to lump all these guys together, but David Johnson, James Conner, Joe Mixon, Le'Veon Bell, maybe Todd Gurley now. The other guys we talked about are Fournette Cook and Kerryon Johnson. You're getting the opportunity to take one of Devontae Adams, DeAndre Hopkins,
Starting point is 00:32:06 Julio Jones, Juju Smith-Schuster, Michael Thomas, depending on, you know, format again. It just, there's a little bit more of a safety factor with them. And like you were saying, Adam, they may not have the same upside as those top four running backs, but they probably have a little bit similar upside to Johnson, Connor, and that group,
Starting point is 00:32:23 just with the chance of the health. When you factor that in, in the offenses that those, those receivers tend to plan. Yeah. I mean, I do think in this spot you let, you're going to let the draft come to you just a little bit more than the
Starting point is 00:32:35 other two. It's a little more obvious at the front and the back, but I'm mostly probably going to do exactly what Jamie said yesterday in our two QB draft. I think I started Julio Evans, Kittle Cooks from the number 8 spot and absolutely loved it.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Yeah, I mean, round 2 is sort of you have your usual choice of a lot of the similar players that are going, well, obviously at the back end of round 1. The middle of round 2 is kind of, do you want to reach for,
Starting point is 00:33:06 and I say that generously reach for Mike Evans or Keenan Allen, if you're going to go receiver receiver, or do you want to take receiver running back? That seems to probably be the most logical route, unless Kelsey falls, which is ADP suggests that he does the middle around two. If you're, if you're looking at that group of backs that we've just been,
Starting point is 00:33:24 you know, finished talking through, Cook, Burnett, Kerryon Johnson, those guys will be available to you. The two tight ends most likely outside of Kelsey will be available to you, especially if you're picking five or six. It's just a matter of how
Starting point is 00:33:37 you want to start to build your team. Adding to your point about Cooper being hurt and Hilton being a little bit downgraded because of luck and those guys, if you don't want to have to risk the receivers that are available to you in round three and maybe not liking those guys where the running backs are going to be Devontae Freeman and now Chris Carson and Josh Jacobs, that group, if you feel more comfortable with that, you do take Mike Evans or Keenan Allen and sort of just not even worry about it because you have potentially a top five wide receiver
Starting point is 00:34:06 that you're getting for top eight value or top ten value. The two players that come to mind if I'm drafting it with picks five through eight that would make me feel better about my draft if they were available to me in round two and round four would be Travis Kelsey, who in our drafts, when we play on CBS with these guys, Dave, he's never available middle of round two. He goes early round two.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Yeah, Dave takes him in round one when he picks up the back end. But ADP suggests that he has a good chance of being there in the middle of round two. So I would love to take him there after the top seven wide receivers are off the board. And for me, Mark Ingram in round four, somebody of Jacobs, Ingram, Carson, Montgomery.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I don't know. I'm not sure how I feel about Montgomery yet. But one of those guys, if they're there as a number two running back, I'd feel really good after that. And then you start talking about Patriots guys, Phillip Lindsey, Tevin Coleman, who's probably going to be a riser. You might be at the end of a tier there. If those guys happen to fall to you with your second pick, with your fourth pick, for me personally, I'd feel a lot better about the team. But I don't love picking in the middle. I'd rather pick closer to the ends, personally.
Starting point is 00:35:14 But, you know, there's no science to it. You can make a great team anywhere. Okay, let's talk about some breakouts here. Thank you for the emails. And I'll try to read some more a little bit later at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Okay, Jamie, we'll start with your breakouts. You already talked about Kerryon Johnson. We've talked about Leonard Fournette. So let's talk about a wide receiver quarterback combo here. Jameis Winston, QB 13 right now in ADP, and Chris Godwin,
Starting point is 00:35:39 who's going 44th overall, someone you could be looking at in the middle of round four, hopefully later round four. Yeah, you love those bucks, so let's talk about it. Go ahead. I mean, we've talked a lot about Chris Godwin. I just think that this is the year he puts it all together, his third year in the league. He's been sort of building toward this. All the targets that are available with Adam Humphries and Deshaun
Starting point is 00:35:57 Jackson gone. He's had a phenomenal camp so far, scored the touchdown in the preseason game. I think it's only going to continue to build momentum for him. And then Jameis, I think, is going to be a quarterback riser. I do think that you're going to start to see him, you know, not necessarily be reflected in average draft position, but I would not be surprised if he gets picked over Andrew Luck. Are you there yet, Heath? I'll put him ahead of Luck, yeah. So, you know, I think that's a, for me, it's an easy one right now. It wasn't before, but I think
Starting point is 00:36:24 Jameis has the opportunity to be among the league leaders in past attempts. I think he's a, for me, it's an easy one right now. It wasn't before, but I think Jameis has the opportunity to be among the league leaders in past attempts. I think he's going to, you know, have a high volume going into the season. And, you know, if he could limit the turnovers, that's going to be a problem for him. But I do think that he's going to have his best year to date. I like what I saw in the first preseason game on that drive.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I think, you know, he's going to thrive with Bruce Arians and Byron Lefkowitz in his ear, you know, especially with Arians and his philosophy of allowing him to make some mistakes and still be successful. So one thing just real quick on Tampa Bay is, you know, we don't, I think, talk about Mike Evans enough in the fact that there's all these targets available. And while Evans himself has said he thinks Chris Godwin is going to be one and one a with, with him, uh,
Starting point is 00:37:11 Evans may be the, the one guy that's being drafted outside of the top five receivers that has a chance to make that leap to being number one. Yeah. Because if, if, if those, if those targets,
Starting point is 00:37:22 but I don't think we talk about enough, you know, if those targets go his direction, you know, because look, I mean, you know, I think we talk about enough you know if those targets go his direction you know because look i mean you know i think everybody kind of you know we tend to you know sometimes we harp on the the top of the draft a little too much and sometimes we just you know gloss over it evans in round two could just be an absolute steal and so i i just think this tampa bay offense is poised to be very very fun very explosive the defense is probably going to struggle so they're going to have to throw the ball a lot. The run game, as we know, is non-existent, at least right now. And so I think there's just a lot to like about this entire passing game. And that's why Jameis,
Starting point is 00:37:51 I think, has a chance to thrive. It's not like last year where if he struggled, there was a guy that the coaching staff trusts. Now they may trust Blaine Gabbert. I don't know. I don't know if I would trust Blaine Gabbert, but I think Jameis is in line to really take that next step forward. And, you forward. It's funny because they're going to be tied together their entire careers, Jameis and Mariota, until one separates. Obviously, there's a big difference fantasy-wise, but Mariota's got a guy he's
Starting point is 00:38:13 got to look over his shoulder and worry about in Ryan Tannehill. Jameis doesn't have that right now, and I think this is going to allow him the freedom to play like I think we've hoped to see him play over the last couple seasons. Okay. So Jameis, he made nine starts. His 16 game pace based on those nine starts was 4,700 yards, 28 touchdowns, 20 interceptions, plus 76 carries for 459 and two. He ran the ball a little bit more last year. Those fantasy points because of the
Starting point is 00:38:40 interceptions, he would have been 12th in four-point-per-passing touchdown leagues, 13th in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues. That's really not so bad for Jameis Winston. Okay, Godwin. I'm going to give you Godwin or Galladay. I think I gave that yesterday. But since Galladay is a breakout for Heath, who would you guys rather have, Godwin or Galladay? Galladay.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I like Godwin better. Okay, they're going to go similarly. Curtis Samuel. Godwin or Gallaudet? Gallaudet. I like Godwin better. Okay. They're going to go similarly. Curtis Samuel. You know, Curtis Samuel is obviously a breakout for you. We've talked about him. He was one of only two wide receivers last year with two rushing touchdowns. Do you know who the other one was?
Starting point is 00:39:19 No. I'll give you a hint. He was wide receiver eligible, but not necessarily a wide receiver. Isaiah McKenzie with the Bills. So actually, DJ Moore had the second most rushing yards of any wide receiver, and Curtis Samuel was one of only two receivers with two rushing touchdowns. But Samuel, you know, Jamie, in our Facebook group, on Fantasy Football Today, the Facebook group, somebody made a pretty good comparison.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I said, I can't remember the last time somebody got this much preseason hype. One of our, here he is, Robert Thomas. I feel like the 2019 Curtis Samuel hype and rise in ADP is equal to the 2018 Marquise Goodwin hype and rise. And I thought that was a pretty good comparison, but don't call Goodwin a failure. He didn't really get a chance to show it because he got hurt in week one and Garoppolo got hurt in week three. But I did think that was an interesting comparison. Yeah, and Godwin had all those off-the-field situations with his family. Goodwin, right. What did I say?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah, you said Godwin. Goodwin, yes. I guess, yeah, you can make a comparison to that, but I don't think he was getting the hype from the media in his city. Goodwin was getting hyped up by the fantasy community. Yeah, I just thought it was a fun comparison. But the similarities are there. Strong finished the year before,
Starting point is 00:40:40 and the hope that it would carry over to the following season, and it didn't. And Jamie gave me one more breakout when I asked him via email, you know, and the hope that it would carry over to the following season. And it didn't. And Jamie gave me one more breakout when I asked him via email, and he just said Hunter. So is that Torrey Hunter? Five-time All-Star breakout season. He was great.
Starting point is 00:40:57 He was great. I think he played fantasy football too, if I'm not mistaken. Hunter Henry. Hunter Henry's got a shot, I think, to, you know, it's funny. He's going to go as the sixth guy of the top six tight ends. And, you know, we obviously focus on the top three and the other two guys in Ingram and Howard. And Henry is like, you know, you just kind of, okay, I'll take Henry if he's there.
Starting point is 00:41:17 He's got a shot to, you know, maybe be better than Ingram, be better than OJ Howard and challenge the other two guys if there's a step back for either Ertz or... The other three guys, if there's a step back for any of those three. So, you know, there's 110 targets available with Tyrell Williams and Antonio Gates gone. You know what Rivers to Gates has been for years. So the touchdowns, I think, are the thing that could certainly help Hunter Henry. But if he can...
Starting point is 00:41:41 You know, you see the projections here if you're watching on the show. It's 57, 737, and 5. I would take the over on that. Yeah. Figuring out how you feel about Hunter Henry could really shape your draft. If you're comfortable with him at tight end, you know, you can wait an extra round and not take Ingram and Howard. And, you know, if you're not, then you might feel a little bit more compelled to take one of the top five. Heath, how do you feel about Hunter Henryry oh i like him a lot and i think you could make a case for him over at least one of my breakouts at tight end i thought he looked pretty good in his first
Starting point is 00:42:14 preseason game the chargers there's been a lot of buzz there i think it's difficult to like hunter henry as a breakout and mike williams is a breakout and i'm more on the hunter henry as a breakout than williams i totally agree with you. I think that's where Mike Williams loses. If he doesn't gain in the catches and the yards, the clear loss for him is the touchdowns with Henry taking not all of it,
Starting point is 00:42:36 obviously, but if you were to say who's going to score five touchdowns, who's going to score ten of the two guys, I would sign up for Henry more so than I would for Williams. Alright guys, one last break on fantasy football today. Heath's breakouts, listener breakouts, listener emails right after this. Yeah, the Heath is on. All right, who are your breakouts, Heath?
Starting point is 00:42:57 Who are some that you want to talk about? I did put Lamar Jackson in here partially because I was kind of saying that I didn't have another quarterback breakout because Jamie took Jameis Wentz. I agree with him. I don't really view Wentz as a breakout just because Wentz did it before. He just got hurt in the middle of that breakout season. But he did everything. He was a top five quarterback.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I've got him ranked fourth. I think he's going. I think I'm the highest on him in the rankings right now. I think he's going to be very good. But I'll go with Jackson just because a lot of times we distinguish between sleeper and breakout and say, well, yeah, he's a sleeper because he's being drafted so late. He's a breakout if he has top five upside. I do think Lamar Jackson is both. I have him projected, I think, pretty cautiously with just 159 rush attempts,
Starting point is 00:43:43 with only throwing 21 touchdown passes and 3,300 passing yards. And even with that, he's creeping into my top 12, top 10 quarterbacks in six-point-per-pass touchdown leagues. He's a borderline top five guy in four-point-per-pass touchdown leagues. Love what I saw in the first preseason game.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Love what they've done with this offense for him. I think Myles Boykin and hopefully Marquise Brown gets on the field and help too. I think those receivers will definitely help. Mostly it's just his development. If he becomes an average NFL quarterback in terms of passing ability, then he is going to be a fantasy superstar. The only thing I can't do with Jackson, unless I'm in a league where only 15, 16 quarterbacks are drafted, I don't think I could draft him as my only quarterback. I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable with that.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I just have a really hard—and it's possible. Maybe they beat these teams so badly that they don't have to pass and they don't run Jackson. But they start off with the dolphins, the Arizona Cardinals, the Kansas city chiefs. I find it really hard to imagine the more Jackson's going to be bad in those three games. I hope not.
Starting point is 00:44:56 If he is South, the alarm. All right, Dalvin cook. We discussed, let's talk about DJ more because you have him as a breakout and his last seven games, he was on pace for 73 catches, 1,077 yards, only two touchdowns, but 117 targets.
Starting point is 00:45:12 He certainly showed up late in the season. DJ Moore. Yes, and I did a little Twitter thread on this yesterday at Heath Cummings SR if you want to go read it, talking about Moore and Samuel. And I'm not trying to stand in the way of a Curtis Samuel breakout except for the fact that I've started to see a few people on Twitter saying Samuel over Moore and I've heard of a few drafts where Samuel is going before Moore and I just think it's important to look at what they actually did last year yes Curtis Samuel scored seven touchdowns to DJ Moore's two let's get rid of that for just a second. Moore was a 21-year-old rookie
Starting point is 00:45:46 who averaged 9.6 yards per target on 82 targets. There have been three 21-year-old rookies ever to average better than nine yards per target on 80 targets. The three are DJ Moore, Randy Moss, and Keenan Allen. Juju almost did it. He had 79 targets. We can throw Jju in there as well he was better than samuel on a per target basis a per reception basis a per game basis and he was
Starting point is 00:46:12 a rookie so i i still think while samuel definitely is a value at his current adp as it creeps up more is the one that we could be looking at at the top 12 wide receiver moving into next year and i i don't disagree with heath um i don't know if he'll as a top 12 wide receiver moving into next year. And I don't disagree with Heath. I don't know if he'll be a top 12 guy, but I don't disagree that he should be taken ahead of Curtis Samuel. As much as I like Curtis Samuel and have, I've consistently had DJ Moore ranked ahead of him. So I don't want to be the one that's saying take Curtis Samuel over DJ Moore and I'll stay consistent. I think if you say who has the higher ceiling, it's DJ Moore. That doesn't mean that Samuel can't be better than him
Starting point is 00:46:47 by the end of the year based on circumstances. But I still think that if you're looking at it, who should you be taking first? It's DJ Moore. Now, the problem is that the gap between them is ridiculous. It depends on which draft you're in, yeah. The gap should be a lot closer between those two guys. In our drafts, it's now down to like a half a round.
Starting point is 00:47:05 And, Heath, you have two tight ends on your breakout list. They are OJ Howard and Evan Ingram. And who do you prefer? I prefer Ingram, but I don't want to sell OJ Howard short. He's better than Evan Ingram. The difference is currently I've got Ingram projected for about 110 targets. I've got Howard closer to 80. If you give OJ Howard 90 targets, which is still a pretty low total,
Starting point is 00:47:30 he is the easy number four tight end. If he gets 100, he's creeping into the top three in his career efficiency. So both of these guys have a chance. We could very easily next year be talking about tight end, and instead of saying big three, we're saying big six. Howard, Ingram, and Henry could all join that group. I think we should be saying it now. I had a fear about Evan Ingram that I think has sort of gone away.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Just Daniel Jones looked great, and I'm not saying he will be great, but if he takes over for Eli Manning, I don't think he'll be completely terrible. And I think he will at some point take over for Eli Manning, I don't think he'll be completely terrible. And I think he will at some point take over for Eli Manning. But also, there's got to be a bump for Ingram. Even though it's only four games, it's not going to help you in the playoffs. Just overall season statistics, without Golden Tate, those first four games, he could just be a beast. His 16-game pace in the games he's played without Odell Beckham in his career, 77 catches, 962 yards, and seven touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:48:30 That's really good. That only would have been tied in five last year, but it would have been top two in 2016, number three in 2017. And he's only getting better. He's coming into his own. So no Tate for four games is great. The fact that Daniel Jones looks like he could be a good quarterback, not necessarily this year, but he won't be terrible,
Starting point is 00:48:51 has really kind of taken some of my fears away for Ingram. I'm sorry, did I ask? You said you like Ingram more because you think he'll get more targets. Yep. Okay. All right, listener breakouts. Spencer says, I'm calling for a re-breakout for Allen Robinson,
Starting point is 00:49:07 top 15 receiver. I don't hate it. I'd be surprised. I'd be surprised too. I kind of hate it. Sorry. Do I need to make, I don't want to make the argument,
Starting point is 00:49:23 but do you want me to make the argument for him? Yeah, actually, because I find it hard to make an argument for any Bears pass catcher based on last year. They just spread the ball around so much. That's absolutely true. But it's also true that Robinson had a two or three week absence. He had the week that he got hurt, which he only had four receiving yards. So really, you're looking at a 12-game season where he caught 55 passes for 754 yards. That's not too far from a 1,000-yard pace. I wouldn't be all that surprised if he catches 75 passes this year for 1,050 yards.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And then it just comes down to, does he score six touchdowns or eight? That could be the difference between him being a top 15 wide receiver okay david lee one of our twitter followers former nick but not really says mike williams is a breakout this year mike williams i think you guys favor hunter henry in that regard nope yeah it's just it it's hard to expect him to you know replicate that type i think he's a fine number three receiver because I think he can still score seven touchdowns. But the catches in the yards really have to come up. Five games with more than four targets.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I take him over Allen Robinson. Five games with more than four targets for Mike Williams. He averaged 19.2 fantasy points per game in PPR, which is unbelievable. And he's kind of an X factor because I don't know that we know how good he is yet would you agree yeah right yep we do uh tyler says just talk about zay jones for five minutes that's way too many minutes to talk about zay jones five seconds uh does i think he's the number
Starting point is 00:51:00 three wide receiver in buffalo that suff suffices. D says Ronald Jones. Ronald Jones. That's a good call. I mean, it could certainly happen. We can talk about that tomorrow with Ben. Okay. Well, tomorrow's a bus show. I don't think Ben's going to bring up Ronald Jones.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Like I said. George Criticos, who's a friend of ours on Dynasty League Football, says Tom Brady. Have a feeling he finally lives up to the hype. Dynasty League, you've got four more years of Tom Brady or something like that. Mike says Marlon Mack is a breakout.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Does Marlon Mack have top five potential? Yes. I have a hard time seeing it unless his role in the passing game really expands. All right. Let let's read some. I'll do a couple more. Joe says Nick Chubb has a breakout. I love Nick Chubb.
Starting point is 00:51:53 But we'll see what happens. First day of games, he's going to be a breakout. And Sonny Michel will be a monster from BP. Sonny Michel will be a monster, all caps. He stays healthy. It could happen. I do like that one just because it's a Patriots all caps. He stays healthy. It could happen. I do like that one just because it's
Starting point is 00:52:08 a Patriots running back, and who knows? It might happen. I'm not betting on it. All right. Time for some emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. We've got a few minutes for these. This is from Brandon in New York. Long-time listener, first-time caller. Oh, speaking of callers, call into our radio show Saturday night, Ion Fantasy Football, 10pm
Starting point is 00:52:24 Eastern, CBS Sports Radio, Sirius Channel 206, CBSSportsRadio.com. Okay, I have Hopkins, Michael Thomas, and Keenan Allen, but my RB1 is Tariq Cohen in PPR, so he needs to upgrade. I was just offered this trade, my Michael Thomas and Tariq Cohen for Leonard Fournette and Devin Singletary. Would you do it? No.
Starting point is 00:52:50 No. No. No, no, no. You need to do better than that. Sorry. All right, this is from John. Dear Reggie, Mark, Chris, and Jose. Oh, I know this one.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Chris with a K. Those are athletics. Yeah, like sluggers. Jackson, McGuire, Chris Davis, and Jose Canseco. I'm having my first dynasty draft after more than 25 years of playing fantasy football. I am picking 12th in a startup dynasty league. How do I go about deciding
Starting point is 00:53:15 between experience and youth? 20 roster spots. I mean, that's, I think the key factor is if you're looking at Juju versus Julio. Not that that's going to probably fall to you at 12, but you would take Juju over Julio. Whereas in most redraft leagues, you're obviously taking Julio Jones. And I'd say probably Michael Thomas, too.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yeah, my plan is to win this year. I'm not going to ignore age, but it's more of a tiebreaker. Okay, thank you. Good stuff. This is Raul from the home of Big Blue. plan is to win this year. I'm not going to ignore age, but it's more of a tiebreaker. Okay. Thank you. Good stuff. This is Raul from the home of Big Blue. Go Giants. 12-team PPR League. I have the fourth pick. Should I take...
Starting point is 00:53:55 If Zeke has not reported, should I take... Someone else. Should I take David Johnson, Hopkins, Adams? What would you do at the fourth pick? Raul, it would have been extremely helpful if you would have given us your draft date in this email, and I would feel much more comfortable giving you an answer. If you are drafting today, then I would say, yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:13 you should still take Zeke if he's not reported. If you're drafting on the 24th, then probably not. If you're drafting on the 31st, definitely not. Who would you take? If you're concerned, take one of the receivers. Take Adams or Hopkins. Yeah. By the way, recent ADP showing David Johnson is going ahead of Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:54:31 I don't know about PPR, but half PPR and non-PPR. David Johnson on Football Calculator. Fifth. Matthew in Durham. First time emailer. I have the number one pick. For several weeks, I thought I'd take at least one receiver at the 24-25
Starting point is 00:54:47 turn, but now A.J. Green, Amari Cooper, Antonio Brown, all hurt. Keenan Allen and T.Y. Hilton are probably gone, according to him. Would you reach for Stefan Diggs or Adam Thielen, or would you go elsewhere at 24-25? So who's off the table? He's assuming hilton and keenan allen are gone and he didn't say mike evans but mike evans so if those guys are gone what do you do with the swing picks in
Starting point is 00:55:14 rounds two and three you could take one of the tight ends if they're available or it's or kittle you can they'll go those running backs we talked about with four net or carry on john what would you do, Jamie? Let's say you have Saquon Barkley, and then your next two picks are going to be who? With those players not being available to me? Yeah. I would probably take
Starting point is 00:55:36 one of Kerryon Johnson or Leonard Fournette and Zachary. Yep. Okay. Would you rule out Edelman if it's full PPR? I probably would take those other two players over Edelman. Yeah. All right. You got some good options there.
Starting point is 00:55:53 And final question here. A guy from Nevada. Let's call him Jim. How do you feel about drafting Odell Beckham and Nick Chubb on the same team? Half point PPR. I did this yesterday and I loved it. I loved it. I had the... On the worst
Starting point is 00:56:10 team you ever drafted? It was the worst team I ever drafted but not because of them. Because of the mistake I made. Why do you think... I was looking at this. Why do you think it's the worst team you ever drafted? I've seen you draft a lot worse. I hope that's not true. It was so bad. I'll talk about it on CBS Sports HQ.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Tune in for that. I got to thank Heath and Jamie and all our listeners. You did the double Browns swing picks. I did the double stealer. Very good. Yeah, I got no problem with it. Good offenses, good players. Sounds good to me.
Starting point is 00:56:41 All right, we're out of here. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na.

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