Fantasy Football Today - 08/17: RB Battles; Late-Round Values; Regulators! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 17, 2018

Let's start the show answering some questions you may have about the SEA (2:24), GB (6:35), NE (7:24) and WAS (14:41) backfields. Which RBs should be drafted first? Do we like Chris Carson better than Rex Burkhead at this point? Is James White underrated? Also why do Jamey and Heath tend to avoid some popular Eagles (12:30)? ... Are there any players we typically avoid drafting regardless of value (16:15)? Any players that may join that list soon? And what would Dez Bryant's impact on CLE be (24:00)? ... Recapping the preseason games (30:00), reading an awesome Podcast League entry (39:30) and revealing some great late-round value WRs (42:26). We may disagree on Nelson Agholor, but we like Kenny Stills, Jamison Crowder and some rookies. And stay tuned for the Fantasy Regulators (53:00) as we settle your league disputes! ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Happy Friday, everybody!

Maybe you have some drafts coming up this weekend. It's that time of year. What's going on? Preseason week two is in full swing, and we are here on this Friday to break it down for you, recap the three games from last night, and look at a lot more. I am Adam Azer with Jamie Isenberg and Heath Cummings. Dave Richards is off today. Did you guys enjoy your Thursday night of preseason football? Yeah, it was awesome.

Fantastic. Great night of football. football? Yeah, it was awesome. Fantastic. Great night of football. Really? Yeah, really, really enjoyed it. That catch by James Washington. Hey, he's having a great preseason. So is Juju. Two catches, two touchdowns.

We will get to all of that. And start your fantasy football league right by booking your draft party at B-Dubs. You will get a free draft kit and enjoy a draft feast of boneless wings, three sides, and three shareables at a special price only at Buffalo Wild Wings. Wings, beer, sports at participating locations while supplies last. That is really a great way to kick off your season. Have a draft party at Buffalo Wild Wings. All right, so today we're going to look at a lot of the injuries that we've missed. Jamal Williams hurt his ankle yesterday. He thinks it's no big deal.

Rex Burkhead has a small tear in his knee, which apparently is a small deal, but Rex Burkhead is injury prone. And we'll take a look at the Seahawks and Redskins running back situations. We're going to look at late round ADP after pick 100. Who are some values you can get late? We got your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. And we got a special guest coming on a little bit later. We're regulating.

I know you guys are excited. Oh, I'm excited. I enjoy telling other people what to do with their leagues. Yes, and I can guarantee you that Heath is going to tell you to kick someone out of a league at some point today. Let's take a look at these running back situations before we regulate. Just got to groove a little bit, sorry. Uh-huh. Yeah.

You know, I'll be honest. It's Friday. I was up late watching football last night. I was a little bit tired. You play that music, I'm just right back in it. There it is. All right, so Rashad Penny, week one status is in doubt due to a broken finger. Who goes first?

Jamie did a Twitter poll actually a few days ago. Who would you take first, Carson or Penny? I think I voted for Carson. Because I'm so mixed. I'm so torn on it that I don't even remember who I voted for. Who would you take first, Rashad Penny or Chris Carson? Chris Carson. Easily?

It's not easy, but I think you just have to go with the guy who's impressing the coaching staff more and who's healthy. While Penny has a higher ceiling, presumably, this is a team that has shown that they will play who they consider to be their

best player. In some cases, it's worked out with Russell Wilson. In some cases, I don't know anything off the top of my head, unfortunately, but that's what Pete Carroll's mantra is. Yeah. I took a look at the last three years of running backs drafted in the first and second round, and, you know, most of them got the most carries on the team. But, you know, Amir Abdullah only got 143. Joyke Bell had 90. Obviously, Derrick Henry rode the backseat to DeMarco Murray.

He had 193 fewer carries than DeMarco Murray. But, you know, Joe Mixon, Zeke Fournette, Cook, Gurley, Melvin Gordon, they were thrown right into the fire. Gordon only had 184 carries as a rookie. Christian McCaffrey had 200 touches. He obviously didn't have as many carries as Jonathan Stewart. That was probably by design. So this is a first-round pick we're talking about here.

Yeah, I would still probably take Penny, but I think it depends because these guys are probably going to go in the eighth or ninth round of your draft now. One of them may even fall into the tenth. I think it really depends at that point on what your roster looks like. If you've done something similar to 0RB and you are a little bit worried about your week one starter at running back, then I can understand taking Carson.

If this is your fourth running back that you're taking in the ninth or tenth round, then I'm probably taking Penny because I do think his upside is a lot higher. You said something there that applied to me in our two-quarterback draft because I drafted Mark Ingram as my second running back. And so I was looking for guys that have the potential to be good early on or at least have work early on that can get me by. And he was one of the ones that I targeted.

Marlon Mack was another one because I would not be surprised if somebody else takes over for him at some point during the season. Jordan Wilkins now getting first-team reps without Mack being healthy. But I also went with the strategy of – I think it was round eight. It was in that range. I took Carson, and I was anticipating taking Carson Penny back-to-back. And two picks after I took Carson, Dave took Rashad Penny in this draft. And I know how Dave feels about this this he would have rather had carson but i don't have a problem with him

taking penny in that same range the thing that could be tough for carson specifically is that early season schedule is not very good oh yeah brutal brutal and so he i don't know that i think the seahawks are going to be very good at running the football anyway. So it's a tough situation. Thankfully, they're really cheap. Yep. Seattle's running game has been 25th and 23rd in yards each of the last two seasons. They had 13 rushing touchdowns two years ago, which was middle of the pack.

Last year, they had four rushing touchdowns. Got a new offensive line coach, Mike Solari. They brought in DJ Fluker from the Giants. He improved their run game a little bit last year, the Giants. They're hoping a full season from George Brown will help, and Ethan Posick maybe improves, but we know it's not the best situation. And at Denver, at Chicago, Dallas, at Arizona, in their first four games, all four of those teams finished in the top nine in fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs last year. And then they get the Rams, who are really bad against running backs, but that's not something we necessarily buy.

They have Indomitian Sioux. They should have Aaron Donald by week five. So it's tough. So two questions. Number one, who finishes with more fantasy points, Rashad Penny or Chris Carson? I'll say Penny. I'm hoping it's Penny, but I think whatever it is is going to be close between the two of them.

And second one is, what's the earliest that you'd pick him? What round in a 12-team league? Eight. Seven for Carson, eight for Penny. All right, next situation, Green Bay. Your read on Green Bay

with Jamal Williams with a minor ankle injury, according to him. If it's minor, he's still the first one that should be drafted. I would look for him in the round five range, but I'm still trying to target two Packers running backs, and it's format specific.

In non-PPR, I'm trying to get Williams and Jones. In PPR, it's Williams and Montgomery, but I'm not opposed to taking Jones also in PPR. Yeah, I think Jones is an interesting one because he's at this point probably going to need some help to get that starting job. He's going to need an injury or some real ineffectiveness from Williams, but if he gets it, the upside is sky high. So he's a nice double-digit rounds pick, but I still expect it's going to be Williams' job to lose.

Rex Burkhead has a small tear in his knee. Sonny Michel is still out. Boy, was James White involved last night. James White just peppered with targets. He was the starting running back, and he finished with James White. Where are your statistics? Six for 61 on the touchdown. Receiving, and four carries for 31 yards.

Thank you, Jamie. I wish they would just say you know what you're our guy like just make him the every down guy let him be dion lewis give him the 200 carries no they'll never do that based on his track record he's got like a chris thompson like track record they don't oh i i agree with what you're saying but you just i mean he was he wasn't a feature guy wisconsin, right? But he got work at Wisconsin, didn't he? Oh, yeah, yeah. He was a hell of a running back.

Everybody was at Wisconsin. It's kind of that thing. He had one game last year with more than five carries. That was week one. That was in the regular season. They tend to turn him loose, I guess, in the postseason. But I don't think that – I mean, it would be great. He's a very versatile, good player.

But where does James White get drafted? He was a 12th round pick in a half PPR, two quarterback league, so guys fell a little bit. That was before yesterday. He's going to probably creep up two rounds. Yeah, like does he deserve to be in the Giovanni Bernard discussion, James White? He probably should be. I don't have it ranked that way, and I don't have it projected that way. The whole situation is disgusting.

Yeah, I would say PPR, he should be there with Bernard. The difference is that if you're right, Adam, which I think you are, that they would never give him that featured down work. Geo is in a different situation because if Mixon gets hurt, Geo is like Tevin Coleman. He just needs that injury to be a monster. Mark Walton. Huh. Mark Walton. Huh? Mark Walton.

Maybe. I just think you've got to treat James White as a potential. He has the potential to be a flex for you in PPR because as we saw, I think it was three years ago now, what do you have, 60-some-odd catches? Okay, so let me give you the stats. You never know with the Patriots, but why I said they'd never give him that work. In three years, his last three years, he's had 22, 39, and 43 carries.

But 40, 60, and 56 catches. So 60 was the first year without Shane Vereen or the year Vereen got hurt. 2016, yeah. the first year without shane vereen or the year vereen got hurt 2016 yeah so i think that's kind of where i would put his catches at this year even if burkhead and michelle are healthy and first four weeks you might really get some very good production right that's that's the thing and i've been played last night he has 12 he has 12 receiving touchdowns his last three years too so this is james white people don't really consider, but they should. I would think like if you're drafting James White, the ceiling would be that silly year that Danny Wood had had a couple years ago.

Okay. And that's overly optimistic. But I think in PPR you can get away with him as a flex. Are we moving down Rex Burkhead? You have to Yeah I'm going to drive I haven't done it yet But you've got to drop him a little bit He's never stayed healthy

And now it sounds like he's not currently healthy And this does not sound like it's something That is going to prevent him from actually playing right now But a small tear worries me And that it could become a bigger tear So I got We're going to prevent him from actually playing right now, but a small tear worries me in that it could become a bigger tear. So we're going to have, and I hope I say his name right, Dr. Brandon Bowers, who's part of our sports line staff. He's our injury analyst.

We're going to have him on Fantasy Football today at noon Eastern on Friday, so you can watch that on VOD. He's going to give us some of the inside information, I guess, from a doctor's perspective on what Burkhead is dealing with. Somebody tweeted this to me. I don't know if it's a doctor or not. I'll look real quick. It doesn't say.

But it makes sense to me, at least. Lots of folks can have slight tears and be fine. If they turn into flaps or the tear has a piece become a floater, it can change things. However, if it's on the lateral side, body can sometimes fix on its own in a few weeks. So we don't know what kind of a tear it is. It could be meniscus, which we've seen guys play through, and be fine. If it's LCL, MCL, ACL, that's what Ryan Tannehill dealt with, remember? He tried to play through it last preseason, stepped awkwardly towards ACL.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So you've got to have some built-in concern. Okay, so rank them. How would you rank the three running backs, just to wrap this up? Burkett, Michelle, White, Hill. Yep, and I think Jeremy Hill has to be kind of a late round thing. Okay, and would you take Burkhead or Chris Carson

at this point? Burkhead. Man, I had it so far ahead of him. I think they're in a similar range. I don't know where you're taking him, Heath. I was like round five. That's where I was. You can't now.

Two guys I struggled with were Burkhead and jay and now you have to take jay over burkett can i just i was thinking about this i find it kind of funny that you guys have called carson wentz a bust you have seemingly no interest in Alshon Jeffrey. And we've also called Jay Ajayi a bust. You are talking about three of the four best offensive players on what might be the best offense in the NFL. And I see a point. I mean, I see the reasoning for all of it. But I just think it's funny if you look at that bigger picture.

You guys are going away from the Eagles offense, which is weird. But I think it was just... Look, Wentz is not going to be where he is right now in terms of his draft value, and so is Jeffrey. But I think Ajayi may settle into a spot where he's fine. I don't have a problem with him in the

fourth round. His ADP was what? The third round we talked about the other day? Yeah, or like early four. he's fine. I don't have a problem with him in the fourth round. His ADP was what, the third round we talked about the other day? Yeah, or like early, early fourth. It's 36. I'm not drafting him in the fourth round. But if your draft is heavy on running backs and you feel like you need someone who's going to get work, he's going to get work.

He's just not going to be, I think, people sometimes have the expectation he's going to be 250 carries. That's just not what the Eagles do. No, and I'll tell you, I drafted him yesterday in the sixth round. That's perfect. It was a two-quarterback league, so maybe bump it up a round. I would have taken him happily in the fifth round in a one-quarterback league. And then yesterday, last night, they get first and goal at the one-yard line.

They gave Wendell Smallwood, or maybe it was Corey Clement, two carries. No, Clement's banged up. Okay, it was Smallwood. They gave him two carries at the one yard line and then Ajayi came in on third down and they threw a touchdown pass, I believe. So it was like, are you kidding me? And maybe that's going to happen. Maybe that's going to happen. It's going to be a little frustrating, but I think he's falling a little bit too far in our drafts

but going a little bit too early in ADP. 36 is too early. I will just say that one of the things the Philadelphia offense does that makes them so effective is that you don't know what they're going to do, and that makes them worse in fantasy. Yeah, it was Wendell Smallwood. It was so annoying. All right, and finally, the Redskins running back situation. What I noticed last year when I went through the game logs,

because you see Piran got a lot of carries, Kelly got some carries. Rob Kelly was the starter. It wasn't until – and Kelly got hurt on three separate occasions. Every time he got hurt, that's when Piran got to work, including games in which they both played. Kelly was the starter, got hurt, Piran got to work. And they lined up that way yesterday. Kelly got the early work, they lined up that way yesterday.

Kelly got the early work. And then Pirine actually left with an injury on one carry, which was a nice carry. It was a 30-yard carry or something like that. Your read on that situation right now is what? I think Rob Kelly is the starter. I don't think either of them are going to be very good on a per-carry basis. And they are going to split work a little bit. So that doesn't make them exciting and fantasy except that they're both available in the 12th round so like everybody's exciting at a certain price i i have kelly projected for the most carries chris thompson's going to take a

little bit off the top but it doesn't matter how many people get hurt he's not going to be a feature back all righty so i would imagine if they both get hurt, then he'll get... I don't think featureback in the sense of 25 touches a week, but he'll probably get somewhere near 15. He's had 15 touches twice in a game in his career. Once last year when they were terrible

at running the ball. He's their best running back. I just don't think anybody believes that he can handle that type of work. You would still take him first though, right? Of the guys? I would take him first for sure in PPR. I don't think I'm taking him in on PPR. I don't think he's that he can handle that. I would still take him first, though, right? Of the guys? I would take him first for sure in PPR. I don't think I'm taking him in on PPR. I don't think he's going to have any use. Yeah.

Okay, guys. Thank you for updating us on these running back situations. We've got a lot more to get to. Let's read an email. Email of the day is from Logan in San Jose, California. Hey, Jerry, Bob, Phil, and Mickey. I don't know. We'll have to look that up. Wait, wait, Phil, and Mickey. I don't know. We'll have to look that up.

Wait, wait, wait. Mouses? Mickey and Jerry, right? Maybe. Is there a mouse named Bob? I don't know. There might be. Just Mickey and Jerry.

That's good, yeah. I was thinking like front offices or something like that. I'm sure it is something more than that. I always have some players that maybe have a higher ADP, but I just do not want because maybe they've hurt my team in the past or I just have a bad feeling about them. For me this year, it's Devante Freeman and Amari Cooper. So who are some of your guys that aren't necessarily bad

but you're avoiding even for a good value? The Eagles. Okay. Legit answer. Some guys? Whatever you want. I'm sorry. Even at good value?

Yeah, you know how it is. You don't ever take this guy even if you think the value is right. He's just not your guy. You avoid him. McCoy for me. Okay. McCoy, some of for me. Mm-hmm. Okay. McCoy, some of the Eagles. Anyone else?

Yeah. I was that way with Amari Cooper until I thought about it, and I was like, no, that doesn't make any sense. I'm getting more that way with Trey Burton. Really? And I think he's good. I think he's talented, but I'm not sure he's going to – I think that sharing with Shaheen thing could really hurt him

kind of in the way that Cameron Brayton and O.J. Howard hurt each other. I don't want to be too influenced by the preseason, but I was feeling that way about Jimmy Graham. But he looks kind of svelte. I don't know. So when Pete Prisco was there, and he just talked about it on the show this week, he said he looked a little bit like old Jimmy Graham. Yeah, he looked a little different out there.

That he was running routes of practice, that he kind of looked like some of the speed was back. You just wonder if maybe Seattle didn't use him the right way? That was an interesting quote from Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers said that they have not really, over the last couple of years, Jimmy Graham has not been used in the middle of the field enough. He said maybe they haven't used him in the middle of the field enough. He's kind of softening it. And the article that Dave sent me this morning, actually,

was about the chemistry that the two of them have and how they've really clicked. And I thought that quote really stood out to me, that they maybe can use Jimmy Graham a little bit better than the Seahawks did, which is saying something because he was a good player for the Seahawks. Well, I think Russell Wilson is a great quarterback. I don't want to say anything bad about Russell Wilson, but when it comes to ball placement in the red zone, he's not Aaron Rodgers. And Graham doesn't have to get any separation at all because he just has to get into position

and Rodgers is going to put the ball where he can get it. Graham or Ingram? Graham. Yeah, I've or Ingram? Graham. I've changed my opinion on Graham. Just after, again, what Pete said, certainly last night kind of confirmed it. I think I had him seventh. I moved him back to fifth.

I still would take Olsen over him just because I think Olsen will do a little bit more if the touchdowns are different, if Graham's touchdowns come down. But if Graham has another 10 touchdown season, even if he did what he did last year, he's going to be the top three guy. And Graham has to be the second most likely tight end to score 10 touchdowns, I think.

Behind Gronk. Absolutely. And who's sixth for you, Jamie? Burton. And then Ingram or Walker? Then I go Walker, Rudolph. Ingram is I think eighth or ninth. We do have to keep an eye on Walker.

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Nick Foles left with a shoulder sprain, so we've got to keep an eye on that. Ben Roethlisberger is fine. Chad Kelly is Denver's number two starting quarterback. And Sam Darnold started for the Jets and didn't do very well last night. Do you think he starts week one, Sam Darnold?

Yes. Yeah, I think he does. Although Teddy Bridgewater has looked awesome in his performances. Darnold was a 12th round pick in our 12-team-2 quarterback league. I got sniped. I got sniped. I wanted him. Josh Rosen went next. Josh Allen, Sam Bradford.

So he was toward the end of the starting quarterbacks. Rashad Penny, broken finger. Jamal Williams, ankle. Saquon Barkley, making progress from his hamstring injury. Should be ready to go for week one. Jeremy McNichols has been the number one running back for the Niners with McKinnon and Breida injured. And Kalen Balazs has a concussion for the Dolphins.

Not a lot of running back news that we haven't covered right now. All right, Dez Bryant could end up in Cleveland, guys. If he does what what would that mean for landry and gordon and everyone really i was just tweeting about this this morning and i really hope he doesn't go to cleveland but i think the only thing i can make of it is maybe that means it's less likely we're seeing josh gordon at the beginning of the year you could take the targets that are going to go to Callaway and Higgins, and you could take a few away from Njoku.

I'm not taking any away from Jarvis Landry. I think he probably gets 80 or 90 targets if he goes to Cleveland. I'm not excited about drafting him. You're not excited about drafting who? Dez. Oh, Dez, yeah. Right, and we don't know that he's there yet, and they expect Josh Gordon to return possibly by week one,

according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer. And then we take a look at – we did the wide receivers yesterday. We talked about this group. But we also did a 12-team half PPR draft yesterday. And forgetting about the fact that it was a two-quarterback league, I won't even say the round. But just look at this range of wide receivers. They went in an interesting order. And the next note I have in the news items is that Doug Baldwin was seen doing

sprints at practice. So the wide receivers went Juju, Demarius, Landry, Tyreek Hill, Doug Baldwin, Adam Thielen. Juju, Demarius, Landry, Tyreek Hill, Doug Baldwin, Adam Thielen. And Cooper and Diggs were already off the board at this point. I was thrilled to get Doug Baldwin after Juju, after Landry, after he took Tyreek Hill one pick before. But it's a similar range. I guess those guys are somewhat interchangeable, fellas. I mean I like Baldwin better than the group you just listed.

But it's still a question mark. Obviously, if he's 100% and doesn't have anything that could be lingering during the year or causes a setback, you could argue he's a top 10 guy. But you just have to build in some of the risks. So I think he's a good third-round pick in any format. I think he's – I like Diggs. We sort of established there's a top 10, however you want to break it down.

11 through 15, I think you can probably put 10 guys into that category. But for the most part, it's Cooper, it's Demarius, it's Tyreek Hill, Thielen, and Baldwin. And I think Baldwin has the most upside. I like Juju a lot. I don't want to say anything negative about Juju,

but Juju should have gone after all those guys. Yeah, I agree. He was the first. It was interesting. But if you want him, then you've got to take him there because you're not getting him in the next round. More notes. Devontae Parker broke his finger.

We argued about Kenny Stills yesterday. John Brown is having a good camp. More on him later. Did you realize the error of your ways yet? No. You know what Chris Howard said to me this morning, I was just looking at some stuff and why isn't Kenny still the top 24 receiver?

Well, he's not a top 24 receiver. He's just outside. He's a little outside. He was close to that last year. Yeah, he was 24, I think. Okay, I thought he was just outside. Probably depends on the scoring system but yeah it's uh probably i don't know guys i just i just think i just i mean alshon

jeffrey's just a better player than him i feel like when they're both healthy they're he's gonna be in a much better offense much when they're both healthy i don't think the production's gonna be all that close i think Alshon is just going to be on a per-game basis much better. So not as close as it was last year. So you're basically counting on Nate Sudfeld to Alshon Jeffrey from week 7

on being better than Ryan Tannehill and Kenny Stills from week 1. Week 7? Yeah, he's out the first 6 weeks, Jeffrey. I mean, but we don't know that. I don't know why you're assuming that. If he's out the first 6 weeks, Jeffrey. Pup. I mean, but we don't know that. I don't know why you're assuming that. If he's out the first six weeks, I'm going to take stills. Well, that's the report that he's going to be out the first six weeks.

Where's that report? Ian Rappaport. Nuh-uh. You're lying right now. Could start the season on the pup, yes. Have you been sleeping under? Also, he could be ready for week one. There's a lot of coulds right now.

You could leave your apartment sometime in the next five days. That's not happening, Jamie. Don't be ridiculous. Let's see. Geronimo Allison having a good camp. Brian Schottenheimer has been impressive. Brandon Marshall. And apparently, according to ESPN's Michael DiRocco – Sorry, Michael.

DJ Chark has been the most impressive Jacksonville wide receiver. I believe outside of Dante Moncrief, we've had a positive, maybe Marquis Lee too. You used to tease a certain competitor of ours that they would always tout the backup receivers for the Packers. There was

always a different report about Jeff Janis. I think it was always Jeffff janice but there was always something on the the packers wide receiver it's becoming like that with the jaguars guys where it's keelan cole he's awesome it's dd westbrook he's now awesome and dj shark he's the awesomest so i i just wonder if you know they when you don't have a clear cut number one and probably not a clear cut number two and maybe not a clear-cut number three, they all just look the same?

Probably. He's not getting drafted, though. Going back to the one before that, I think, especially in best ball drafts, Brandon Marshall at least needs to be drafted. You think so? Yeah. It's sounding more and more like

I think there's a more like he's – I think there's a good chance he's starting week one even if Baldwin's healthy. Do you think, though, similar situation, though? He's looking good because everybody else thinks because Baldwin's not there? That might be the case. No, I think you're right. I'm just saying it's one of those situations where Tyler Lockett, we're kind of hoping. And he's deemed again.

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Rob Kelly was asked to play on passing downs, and that's not pretty. Yeah, I think maybe the only Thing to talk about is that it was kind of A wake up call for Sam Darnold 8 for 11, 62 yards and a pick And you know He talked to Robbie Anderson a lot Called him a sleeper

He's not throwing the ball down the field yet Two straight games He's completed 22 passes And he's thrown for What's 98 plus 62 or 96 plus 62 He's completed 22 passes, and he's thrown for, what's 98 plus 62, or 96 plus 62? He's thrown for under 200 yards in two games. 158. Yeah.

So that's not going to cut it for his receiving corps if this continues. And that's one thing, like Pete Prisco's talked about this after we were watching him last week, and everybody's glowing about the way he looks. And he looks poised, but he's just not taking chances yet. And neither is Andrew Luck. Just want to throw that out. We've got to see him throw the ball downfield. Well, one guy at least has a track record.

No, I'm just saying he hasn't thrown the ball deep yet. I just need to remind everybody that. Sure. But remember, though, and this applies to both guys, when Peyton Manning was coming back from his neck surgery, every time we saw a video of him in practice, well, he can't throw the ball down the field. He looks terrible.

It's true. I would imagine Luck has a better chance, based on being able to read defenses than Sam Darnold does of getting the ball down the field or making at least positive throws in the mid to deep range. We get to see it from Darnold, though. Well, Heath, as someone you probably own a lot of Robbie Anderson, would you prefer McCown, Bridgewater, or Darnold to be the quarterback?

I mean, I'd prefer McCown just from a strictly Robbie Anderson perspective because I know how McCown's going to target the wide receivers. Yeah. All right. You would assume that Bridgewater would too. I think so. Yeah. All right, Green Bay 51, Pittsburgh 34.

No Ben Roethlisberger. Very little Aaron Rodgers. James Conner had a nice game, 5-57 and a touchdown. He's probably your Le'Veon handcuff, right, Conner? Yes. Okay. What do we think about James Washington? Is he becoming relevant?

His damage has been done in the second half with the backups and whatnot, but what do you think? And he knows Mason Rudolph. He does know Mason Rudolph, right? They went to college together. I think one thing of interest is, like, there's – and, Heath, you could disagree with me if you don't agree with these names. But there's four rookie wide receivers I think are going to be drafted. DJ Moore and whatever.

DJ Moore, Calvin Ridley, Anthony Miller, and Michael Gallup. Yeah, I think so. Then there's, I think, four other guys that have a chance to be somewhat relevant. And I think it's Washington, Cortland Sutton, Christian Kirk, and Dante Pettis. Anybody missing? No, and some of those guys, Pettis and Washington

are getting rave reviews right now. So Pettis is interesting, and this, I think, is a little broader discussion, but Pettis initially, when Trent Taylor was not healthy, was looking like their third guy. Now you're hearing Trent Taylor reports of him looking like... I think the last thing I read was he's looking like the guy

he was before he got hurt. So I wonder if Pettis just slides down to the fourth guy. Sutton, we know, is going to be at best the third guy. And Washington, at best, the third guy. Christian Kirk, to me, is a little bit of a wild card because there's no number two wide receiver in Arizona. Bryce Butler was the initial starter. He's so i just think like like we did this draft yesterday again two quarterback league but so 16 rounds so we we added an extra round because the

second quarterback for the most part it would be a 15 round draft i don't think anybody's drafting james washington in a 15 round draft yet no but and adam brought this up yesterday about juju we were drafting martavis bryant last year and probably taking a flyer on Juju. Like is it worth taking a flyer on James Washington that he's just a better version of Martavis Bryant? And does that hurt Juju? In anything deeper than a 15-round draft where you have to draft a defense and a kicker, I think it is worth it. I'm not sure if it's worth taking him in the 13th round of a draft because there's just so many players left then. Yeah, you know, like in a non-PPR league, is it better to take a flyer on Ben Roethlisberger's third guy

or possession guys like Amendola, Cole Beasley, you know, I don't know if those guys are getting drafted, but, you know, Rashard Matthews, you know, who can't stay healthy right now, Devontae Parker, you know, just for the chance of, like these are more best ball guys, I think, because the weeks that they go off for two touchdowns. But it's intriguing. You know, it's like, Adam, and I wonder how often this happens.

So we did a live draft that was 16 rounds, right? When? Oh, it was Flex? Yeah. And so like I'm sitting next to Jake Seeley who runs the Flex Leagues. And I was like, God, there's so many players that I still would like to draft. And so we're like, should we add a couple rounds? I was so mad at you, by the way.

Why? I did not want to do two more rounds. I wanted to get the heck out of there. But I'm just looking at the board. And maybe it's different because you're not staring at a draft room. There were just so many players. I'm like, I can easily squeeze two more players out of this. Yeah, but then we thought about it like free agency is going to be terrible.

That was the other reason I was mad. I wanted a decent waiver wire to look at. So, yeah, a lot of good rookie wide receivers. Maybe some of them become fantasy relevant. The thing about Washington as it relates to Juju and the whole Martavis Bryant situation last year, Washington is going to – and you guys mentioned this, but he's going to play the role of Martavis Bryant.

He's the kind of big play over the top guy, right? That's my expectation. He may have, after that catch he made last night, he may earn a little bit more of a red zone role too. New England 37 and Philadelphia 20. Any takeaways from this game? I mean, James White and Chris Hogan look like they're locked in, ready to go. Yep.

That was a beautiful drive with Chris Hogan getting that touchdown. He had a bad drop, though. Middle of the field, wide open, ball hit him right in the chest, and he dropped it. So that would have added to his stat line. I just think if Chris Hogan stays healthy, he's got top 20 potential. Okay. Even though his name isn't Brandon?

Even though his name is not Brandon. Also... And he lined up in the slot a lot, too. You know, Dave brought that up. They were moving him around. There's a stat that I want to give that is weird, and a guy we've never talked about. But does J.J. Nelson have a chance of being significant in Arizona?

He could be the number two. Somebody's got to be. Look at this stat. We loved him last year. And he got off to a good start. In three seasons, J.J. Nelson has had six or more targets in 11 games. He has averaged 11.3 fantasy points in non-PPR in those 11 games. Not a big catch guy, only four catches per game,

but 11.3 fantasy points in non-PPR with six or more targets. He almost always does well when he gets targets. Feature this guy. Throw the ball to J.J. Nelson because Christian Kirk is a slot guy like larry fitzgerald right like they need they need nelson uh yeah you would you'd like to see it you know i i just wonder if uh again with christian kirk you know someone they drafted are they gonna you know try and force that to see how he does um you have a new quarterback because you know bradford's never been a down-the-field guy, at least over the

body of work, which is go back to the time in Minnesota and you wonder what the offensive line here. You don't know what Rosen's going to look like if he gets an opportunity. I just wonder if Ricky Seals-Jones, who I think as of now you could draft as a wide receiver on our site, as well as a tight end. If he becomes a thing,

that'd be interesting. Do we mention Cordero Patterson? Sure. Backups, though. He made a fantastic move on his touchdown. He's still shifty. We should probably also mention that Phil Dorsett spent a lot of time with the first team offense.

And that was with Edelman on the field. So they went Edelman, Hogan, Dorsett spent a lot of time with the first team offense. And that was with Edelman on the field. So they went Edelman, Hogan, Dorsett. Decker apparently is still struggling a little bit. Did Kenny Britt even play? I have not heard Kenny Britt's name. Right. So I wonder if that Dorsett spot will be the rotation spot. You know, Decker, Patterson,

him, you know. But without Edelman in there, you know, you could be getting some interesting production from Dorsett if he does turn in anything. And also, Gronk did not play too, so keep that in mind. Dallas Goddard does not need to be drafted, right? No.

Okay. We are going to get into late round ADP, talk about some wide receivers who are going 100th or later. Then we are going to try to read some emails, and we will definitely fantasy regulate at the end of the show. Right now, I would like to welcome one person into the podcast league, Stefan from a city north of Buffalo. I don't know.

Somewhere in Ontario. You are in, and here is your entry. Congratulations. Congratulations. Yeah. So you still got until the end of the day. Anything that comes in after Friday night, I'm sorry, I'm going to have to eliminate from contention. But fantasyfootballatcbsi.com, please put podcast league in the subject line.

The following story is semi-true and would be fully true if a certain player, if certain players' names were different. Example, Kareem Camp would have been a perfect name. It happened over the summer,ny galladay's my kirk cousins and i set up a kareem hunting trip through the robert woods we were all cam newton to this but we deandre hopped in the derrick car and headed terrence west it was getting orleans darkwell but we had to carry on johnson we arrived at the davante parker but the antonio gates were closed good moncrief we thought at that moment our andrew luck really turned for the hearse. I saw an Antonio Brown Bear heading in a straight Greg Zur line in our direction.

So we Devante Bookered it. There was nowhere to Carlos hide, so we ran to the Phillip Rivers and jumped into the Teddy Bridgewater. Oh, how Rex Grossman it was. We were covered in Emmanuel Sanders and Charles Clay. We eventually climbed up the Brandon Banks to strong safety, and we needed to get to Tim Hightower ground for a more CJ Pro-size view of the Jarvis Landry, so I Delaney Walkered up the Tyreek Hill,

through the Baker Mayfield, past the Josh Rosenbush, and climbed the nearest Michael Crabtree. I couldn't get a good grip on the Saquon Barkley. My foot slipped, and a Dion Branch came loose. It Brandon LeFell down and smacked me right in the Rex Burkhead. It's Zach Ertz, I TJ yelled in pain. It was clear it was time to Blake Abortals the trip, so we Michael Galloped our way to the nearest Heinz Medical Ward.

There was a nice Eli Manning there. He Dalvin cooked us up a big Ben Roethlisberger. I didn't have a Rashad Penny to my name. Don't worry, he said. It's Royce Free, man. They stitched up the Jay Cutler, and we were sent Patrick Mahomes. All I can say, Jones, is I should never have. They stitched up the Jay Cutler, and we were sent Patrick Mahomes. All I can say, Jones, is I should never have Carson Wentz in the first place.

Next time I get the Alex Collins to join a Theo Ridiculous trip to the James Wilderness, I'll just say Graham Gano. Danny Amendola to that. That was unbelievable. Isn't that great? Maybe the best we've ever gotten. That, honestly, honestly. Dave's rap was great. This was awesome.

You guys weren't laughing and I couldn't see you? We were laughing. Oh, I was laughing. We were laughing. This was awesome. I couldn't get the smile off my face. Okay. I thought you hated it. That was awesome.

Yeah, I was blown away. Even my wife, who only knew like 30% of the names, thought it was great. That is genius. And look, I haven't read all the entries. I've read some of them, and we've gotten some fantastic ones. Adam, great choice by you to pick. What's his name? I'm sorry.

Stefan. Stefan. Yes. You're going to lose the league, but congratulations on winning the email contest. Yeah, it's terrific. Good job, man. Thank you for the entry. All right, late round picks that we like after pick 100.

Let's start with our fantasy profile presented by Buffalo Wild Wings. Stefan honestly should join the FSWA just to submit that as an entry for Story of the Year. I might have to submit that to the award shows, that clip. That was good stuff. We'll have to

take credit for it. We won't say who it was. That was Stefan Richard from Coconut Creek. Alright, so Fantasy Profile presented by Buffalo Wild Wings. We're profiling an underrated fantasy football player who listeners should get to know as they could be key to winning your season. And John Brown is having a good camp

with the Ravens, and he's somebody worth at least looking at late in drafts. Two years ago, or three years ago now, he was a top 24 wide receiver in both formats. John Brown. three years ago now he was a top 24 wide receiver in both formats john brown two years ago he was a huge topic of conversation in this podcast as we debated between him and michael floyd if you remember and neither one of them were any good at all lost but i listen this is a situation one of the reasons i love michael crabtree this year is because i really thought he's just going to dominate targets. And Brown could be a part of that.

He could really, there's plenty of room. They've got two rookie tight ends that they're going to throw the ball to occasionally, but they're rookie tight ends. They don't really have a pass-catching running back that is exciting, but they're going to do that occasionally. But Brown's the number two wide receiver in this offense, and he's the most exciting because he can get behind the defense. The only thing you really have to worry about with John Brown

is the fact that he's got the sickle cell disorder, and he has a hard time staying healthy. I would say there's one other thing you have to worry about with him, and that's Joe Flacco, who twice in his career has thrown more than 21 touchdown passes, never more than 27. He did produce two top 20 wide receivers in 2014. Torrey Smith and Steve Smith were about 19 and 20. Other than that, I only looked at the last five years.

That's the only time that they've had a number two Baltimore wide receiver be a number two fantasy wide receiver. And we don't want John Brown to be number two. It would be great if he's a number three receiver. Yeah, and I think, like Jamie mentioned, John Brown has Torrey Smith on yesterday's podcast, and I think that's a really good comparison. I think Brown's a better route runner underneath than Smith is,

but it was three straight years where he was giving you borderline number two production. Yeah, I was going to say, Smith in his heyday. Right. Flacco's Super Bowl. Not Smith now. Yes. Flacco is bad for fantasy.

And we actually got an interesting email from Eric in North Carolina. And we'll transition back to the late round wide receivers. But I want to stay on this topic. And Eric says, dear Dallas, Ed, Todd, and Crockett. And those would be Ravens tight ends. Every year I hear you guys say the Baltimore Ravens love their tight ends. Did you know that Joe Flacco has produced one top 12 fantasy tight end in his entire 10-year career? And that was Dennis Pitta's 669-yard seven touchdown season in 2012.

Where did this myth about Ravens tight ends come from? Targets. But it's true. They don't score enough fantasy points. And I went back and I looked, and I'm pretty sure he's right. I think that's the only time in 10 years that Flacco's given us a top 12 tight end. That's only true in non-PPR. In PPR, he's given us a top 12 tight end each of the last two years.

Is that right? Yes. Ben Watson was number 11 in PPR last year. Okay. All right. Well, that's a good distinction. All right. So back to these late round wide receivers, and thank you for the email. Jamison Crowder. We haven't really talked about him

enough. There's Robbie Anderson, Devante Parker, who's got to be falling. Nelson Aguilar, steal the draft if he was really going 110th. I don't know about that anymore. What do you think about Crowder? Jamie, you've always kind of like Crowder. You like him again? Absolutely. You know, I mean, I look at this receiving core and, you know, Josh Doxson played last night, but he's got a bad injury track record and they seem to only want to make him somewhat of a specialist. They're not going to feature him in the offense. Paul Richardson's never been a featured guy. And Crowder, I mean mean you can argue that he's clearly not a number one receiver um but i think alex smith the reports all offseason where they were connecting very well i just think

he's their best wide out jordan reed is their best pass catcher but we know what jordan reed has been so i think crowder has the chance to be a heavily targeted guy especially with the running back situation being what it is. So, you know, for me, it's always who can get me 120 targets. That's the thing I look at first. Then when I get to that spot, which I think Crowder can be, how talented are they? And what's the offense that they're in? And how productive can they be in that offense?

And remember two years ago in Crowder's second season, he was very good as the third option behind Deshaun Jackson and Pierre Garçon. And then I know for me, I was very excited about him last year, but when I spoke to Kirk Cousins at the Super Bowl, who at the time was his quarterback, he said he never really got over that hamstring problem. And so you wonder if, again, he's banged up, so take that for what it's worth. If he can stay healthy,

I just think he's one of the more underrated guys. I think he's right in line with Marquise Goodwin and Robbie Anderson. You could certainly argue that those guys have higher ceilings, and I get that. But Crowder to me can be similar to nowhere near the same type of production. He's not going to be a top 10 receiver. But what Tyreek Hill was for Alex Smith, just his guy, his 100-plus target guy. And I think that's kind of how I would approach it. He's one of my favorite number three receivers to target yeah especially in ppr so how would you rank i'll give you four names

cooper cup jameson crowder nelson agalor robbie anderson cup crowder agalor anderson Are we doing PPR or non-PPR? Don't do that. Let's do both. Take a stand. Let's do non-PPR first. Okay. Anderson, Cup, Crowder, Aguilar. I go Crowder, Cup, Anderson, Aguilar.

Alright, what am I missing with Nelson Aguilar? If you guys are... If you think Alshon Jeffries is out six weeks, how do we not draft the number one wide receiver on the Philadelphia Eagles? I don't think that Aguilar is going to be successful going outside. I think he's better off in the slot, which is where he was last year. But how does he not just fall into production? Because the Eagles are going to spread the ball around. They will use Sheldon Gibson. They will use Mac Hollins. They will use Mike Wallace. What did the Eagles do to you guys?

Nothing. They're a very good team, but he said the best. I don't think it's, okay, this week we have the features. Look what Alshon Jeffrey did. If Alshon Jeffrey did not score, what was it, nine touchdowns? Yeah, I think so. Look at his numbers. I know, but that's also like his least efficient season.

But look at Aguilar's numbers. They're touchdown dependent. And they're going to score touchdowns. But again, you're asking a quarterback coming off an ACL that has yet to do a lot of full team practice this offseason. The backup now may have a torn rotator cuff or a bad banged up shoulder. It's a great system. It's an amazing offensive line. There's a lot to like about Philly, but you just have to keep it in perspective.

I hope Alshon Jeffrey plays week one and is dominant because it's great for fantasy. I hope Nelson Aguilar can score eight touchdowns again. But you just have to, when you start to stack these guys up, who's going to get the most opportunities? And that's what targets are. They're opportunities. I just, if Alshon Jeffrey's out, I don't know how Nelson Aguilar doesn't get those opportunities. He does for the first six weeks. He should be very, very good. But will he be touchdown dependent? I mean, look at the games where he didn't score touchdowns. How many 100-yard games did he have?

No, I get that. I mean, I totally understand. He maybe had one. I don't even know. And so, again, I can totally understand if you think he's in a better situation than Jamison Crowder because Crowder is also a guy that has to prove it. But I just look at what the target opportunity could be for Crowder compared to both Eagles receivers.

And I just will say I think certainly last year, and I believe the year before, Crowder was very much tied to the absence of Jordan Reed. He did very well when Jordan Reed wasn't there, and it might be something that we want to look into. Now, they don't – I don't know. All right. You know that we want to look into. Now, they don't... I don't know. All right. You know what? Josh Doxson. Why don't we talk about Josh Doxson? Let's transition

to that before I stumble over my thoughts again. Do we like him at all? Does he have good late-round appeal? We talk about a guy that's not going to get that many targets. I think that's the problem for Josh Doxson. His hope is that he has a season like Aguilar did last year. But I can't find a way to get him over 100 targets.

And, I mean, they are going to throw the ball 75 times to Chris Thompson if he stays healthy. They are going to throw the ball, I think, 120 times to Jamison Crowder. Jordan Reed is currently healthy, and if he's not, they throw the ball a bunch to Vernon Davis. And Paul Richardson's there, and I don't know at this point that we know for sure Doxon's getting more targets than Richardson is. Okay.

I'm going to get more names. Tell me who you like. Calvin Benjamin, Sterling Shepard, Calvin Ridley, DJ Moore. Calvin Benjamin, Sterling Shepard, Calvin Ridley, DJ Moore. I think Moore has the most upside of this group. Yeah. Oh, Benjamin looked really good in that first preseason game. He did.

And he's the guy ranked the highest out of all these guys. I think I might have more ranked higher than him. I'm not sure. They're one or two spots apart. Okay. These are all worthwhile late round picks. No beef here. Shepard I haven't drafted at all.

I just don't know what to expect. I really don't know what to expect from Sterling Shepard. What do you guys think? I like him. But again, I don't know. There's a lot of mouths to feed in New York, and Eli Manning is the quarterback. Yeah, I mean, you've got to figure that if Barkley's going to be— how many targets do you have him projected for? 80? Right around there. Maybe a little below, but yeah, right around there.

75, 80? I would assume that's where Shepard's going to be, too. This may be sort of a specific scenario, but if I draft Odell Beckham and have enough bench spots, like six or more maybe, I definitely want to take Sterling Shepard. That's your friendship strategy for the Giants? I believe Shepard would be great if Beckham got hurt. How was he last year? Wasn't Shepard hurt last year?

Yeah, Shepard had some huge games, but Shepard himself got hurt. It's not a bad approach because what the price tag is for Shepard is so cheap. Yeah, I mean, he had... He missed two games, then he had 70 yards, 142 yards, then he had two bad games,

then he had 139 yards and a touchdown. So it looked like he had three very good games, three pretty bad games But I believe that he would do pretty well He was playing hurt And then last group here And then we'll do the regulators Hearns, Stills

Okay, we like him, he's a steal Wide receiver, 49 He's maybe the best receiver we've talked about yet Mike Williams, Kenny Galladay Exciting, Lots of fun. They're still mostly just on hope, though. Who's your favorite, other than Stills? Hearns, Galladay, Mike Williams.

I'll take Mike Williams with the touchdown potential. I'll still go with what I think will be the targets for Hearns, but Williams is more exciting. Yeah? It'll be interesting to see. Sorry to interrupt your music. Hell's still to go with what I think will be the targets for Hearns, but Williams is more exciting. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see. Sorry to interrupt your music. It'll be interesting to see if Gallup has another big play, big performance. He'll be the best Cowboys guy on draft day.

Let's regulate. You got a question? You need a league dispute settled? Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com and put fantasy football regulators in the subject line. This is from Tim in New Jersey. Dear Grandpa, Rocky, Colt, and Tum Tum. Three ninjas. We've had the same group of 12 guys for almost 15 years now.

We've always done a snake draft. This summer, one longtime owner proposed doing an auction as opposed to our traditional snake draft. He claims it's a, quote, fact that an auction is the best way to assemble fantasy football teams. I know you guys talk about both types of leagues, so which way is the best way? P.S., I'm going to record your answer and send it to the league.

Don't let me down. If everyone can make it and is participating in person, then I would agree with this one owner in your league that an auction is the best way. I don't necessarily like it if you're doing stuff online. I like auctions no matter what. I prefer them regardless. Jamie? How many auctions do you actually do?

And why are you not in our auction? Because it's in person. I don't live in Florida. It's not in person. We have several remote people that do it. I had a pediatrician appointment that day. I couldn't join it. I wanted to. I really did.

So do the next one. Okay, I will. But what do you say, Jamie? What's the best league? I'm not joining another league. Yes. Oh, no. I'm handing that team off. I'll play's the best league? He's now in another league. Yes. Oh, no. I'm handing that team off.

I'll play it out. No? I'm not joining another league. No way. So I think, Heath, we need to regulate Adam. Yes. He's in the league. Regulated.

Not in it. If you're going to be on a fantasy football podcast that talks about auctions, you need to take part in our auction that we do as a staff. I'll take part in the auction. Especially if it's your favorite way to put together a test. I'm not going to play it out. And you talk about it throughout the season as we discuss, was that guy worth the price? Jamie, break the tie.

What's the best way to do a league? However you can do it in person. I don't care, auction or snake. Okay, so in person is the – Auctions are more fun. Auctions are more fun. If they can't do it in person, Jamie, should they do an auction or a snake? Still auction.

It just gives it more variety. Auction for the win. Regulated. Next up, we've got from Jacob. He says, dear rhythm, bass, bass, and treble. The rhythm is the bass and the bass is the treble. Right? We know it.

We know it. We know it. Commissioner of a 12-team auction half PPR league can keep up to three players at an additional price for the following year and must lock in your keepers the week before the draft. All right. So you can keep up to three players, but you don't have to keep any. One team has historically struggled with this concept. This year they said they were keeping two players that are unlikely to be drafted in our 12-team league. I'm not allowed to say who they are. I immediately emailed back with a copy of the CBS rankings asking them to resubmit their keepers

and remind them they had the option not to keep anybody. I did this for the sake of competitive balance and would have done this for any team in the league. However, I do believe in full disclosure for transparency and mockery reasons. How do I handle this? Mockery reasons, I like that. Please regulate. The question is, was it right for him to tell this guy, hey, your keepers suck. Don't keep them.

Basically. So I'm in a similar situation uh we have to make our keeper decision today for um one of my leagues and there are uh it's guys i play softball with there are a couple guys that like playing fantasy but they're just not into it but they do it because they have fun with the draft and we do live draft and um so i don't necessarily critique their keepers but i kind of help them with their keepers, which I don't know if it's fair or not, but I do, just so they have good ones, so it's along the same lines

of not letting them start off their season with bad players. I don't think it's a bad idea to kind of guide it, but if the guy knows what he's doing, then you should just leave it alone. Yeah, and I think, Jacob, you used the words that you need to use in this situation, transparency and mockery. I would absolutely be mocking this owner on the homepage of the league website. But I would also be transparent that I told him he shouldn't keep those players. I have a similar situation in my home league, which has been in for almost 20 years now. And when

I came to work at CBS, there were some people who weren't very happy about me. The advantage that I had, which I always had an advantage. The transparency on that part was, you know what? If you guys have a question, I will help

anybody in the league. Yeah, we're cool with it. But just be transparent. You need to tell the rest of the league, first off, what a dope this guy was, and second, that you helped him. It's been regulated. All right, this is from Jake, another Jake, from a suburb north of Detroit.

I need some regulation on the entirety of fantasy football concerning the super flex position. Some people seem to think this is the way of the future, but I just don't understand. Why not make it a two-quarterback league instead? There we go. If you have a standard lineup with two running backs, let's say three receivers and a flex already,

adding a super flex means that you most likely will slot in an RB3 or a wide receiver three or four or a second quarterback. Everyone is going to use a quarterback there because even quarterbacks like Borders or Keenum will outscore the other positions. So what's the point? Superflex is stupid. 2QB is the only way to truly increase the value at the quarterback position. What do you guys think?

I don't think Superflex is stupid. We did our 2QB draft yesterday, and Jamie increased it from 10 to 12 teams, and some people didn't even notice that until the draft was over. Oh, that was a – I've got to get to that on Monday. I've got to get to that on Monday. It's a fantasy tip. That kind of illustrated why Superflex, I think, and it's bi-weeks. Because in a 10-team 2QB league, everybody's going to have three quarterbacks,

and it's not as big a concern. In a 12-team 2QB league, you're going to have weeks where you're starting a quarterback that's not even playing. In a super flex league, in those weeks at least, you can plug in a wide receiver three or four. Yeah, and we just did a super flex on Saturday and a two-quarterback league yesterday, and I do see some differences, especially if it's four-point for passing touchdown and PPR, because then I do see realistic scenarios where you might sit a quarterback

for a wide receiver or something like that. For example, Eli Manning is my super flex. He has the Jaguars in week one. I don't know that he's an automatic start in a four-point for passing touchdown league. I might have somebody on my bench that I like better. I might. That's half PPR, so probably not, But full PPR, I think it's realistic. This is my first year doing Superflex.

I do see a difference between Superflex and two quarterback league. So I'm fine with either one. You like Superflex better? It gives you more flexibility. I totally agree. Yeah, flexibility. All right, it's been regulated. Jake, you are wrong.

The other people are right. And thank you for listening. And that's going to do it's been regulated. Jake, you are wrong. The other people are right. And thank you for listening. And that's going to do it for us today. Have a great weekend. Yeah, well, you don't have to go anywhere because you've got to go to the Saturday Night Radio show. Listen to us, Ion Fantasy Football. That's Jamie Eisenberg, Heath Cummings.

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