Fantasy Football Today - 08/19: Sorting out the Rounds 3-4 RBs; Preseason Winners & Losers (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: August 19, 2019It was an eventful and potentially revealing weekend in the NFL and we'll tell you what you need to know as you get set for your drafts. Bold predictions after Preseason Week 2 (1:40) involving Tyler ...Lockett, T.J. Hockenson, Adam Thielen and more. Plus Buy or Sell (12:00) as we tackle the Josh Gordon and Antonio Brown situations, the KC backfield (17:40), the DET backfield (20:30), the PIT backfield (21:05) and an important handcuff ... More preseason winners (28:24) as Chris Carson continues to impress. Who else stood out? Let's give LeSean McCoy some credit! ... A couple of Podcast League entries (36:45), and then let's really get into the Rounds 3-4 RBs (40:30). It's a tricky group but we'll tell you how we're feeling about Carson, Josh Jacobs, Devonta Freeman, Marlon Mack, Aaron Jones, Mark Ingram, Damien Williams, David Montgomery, Derrick Henry and Tevin Coleman ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Well, preseason week two was pretty revealing, pretty interesting.
Tony Power looked great, Darwin Thompson looked great.
Starting running backs also looked great.
Welcome to the show.
Welcome to the Monday episode of Fantasy Football Today.
It's a four-man show today.
I'm Adam Azer.
Let's say hello to the cast and characters.
Jamie Eisenberg, good morning, sir.
Good morning, Adam.
Hello.
Yes, Jamie and I had a great time on Saturday night on Ion Fantasy Football.
Thank you all for calling in. Dave Richard. I just appreciate you wearing had a great time on Saturday night on Ion Fantasy Football. Thank you all for calling in. Dave Richard.
I just appreciate you wearing pants.
Oh, on Saturday night? Well, yeah, you know, I had to leave the house.
I could have pulled off shorts, I guess.
Dave, how was the Steelers-Chiefs game you were in attendance?
It was great. Had a good time.
Talked with Andy Reid for a little bit after the game, and I mean a little bit.
But a lot of interesting players coming out of that game.
A lot of big games.
A lot of young players popped.
Yeah, that may have been the most interesting game of the weekend.
Heath, how was the, I assume, beach and barbecuing?
No beach, but I did make some delicious steaks on Saturday night.
Had steak and shrimp and grilled vegetables.
Fantastic.
Nice, and I was very proud of myself.
I made pineapple fried rice, and it was really Fantastic. Nice. And I was very proud of myself. I made pineapple fried rice
and it was really, really average.
I will do better next time.
Okay.
Let's make some bold predictions
based on preseason week two
or something like that.
Heath, start me off with a bold prediction.
This shouldn't be bold
because he did it last year,
but based on all the rankings it is.
So Tyler Lockett will repeat as a top 12 wide receiver in non-PPR leagues this season.
He's the only good wide receiver in Seattle.
There's no reason to think he's not going to get 22 to 24% of the targets, which would probably mean somewhere between 100 and 120 targets.
With his career efficiency as a thousand yard season, eight to 10 touchdowns,
Tyler Lockett,
top 12 and non PPR.
I love it.
I already have ranked that way.
I do too.
Now it's,
uh,
it's,
it's going to be fun to have him this year.
I'm way behind on,
on him with you guys.
And I was ready to write them up as a bust.
And then I saw where his ADP was comparative to where I had him ranked.
And I,
I couldn't call him a bust anymore.
Yeah.
I think you should go in the fourth round.
You can make a case the third with the receivers
that are falling apart in front of him.
Right, and that's the thing.
Let's talk about that.
Would you be saying he's the only good wide receiver in Seattle
if DK Metcalf were healthy?
Metcalf having knee surgery could be ready for week one,
maybe not, but it doesn't seem like a very long-term injury for Metcalf,
but it obviously helps Tyler Locke its value.
So would you be making that bold prediction if DK Metcalf were healthy?
I think you very easily could.
We didn't know if DK Metcalf was ready to be a good NFL wide receiver yet anyway.
I mean, I know there was one person who thought that he was going to lead the Seahawks in touchdowns. I still feel like he might if he's there for week one.
Look, I don't disagree.
We don't know if he's a good NFL receiver yet.
He has lots of potential.
I'm willing to take a flyer on him.
Nobody seems to want to draft him.
I still think DK Metcalf because you're right.
They don't have a great receiving core.
So, I mean, there's room for both of those guys to be good this year.
Obviously, Lockett should go way ahead of Metcalf.
But, I mean, even with this knee injury, I still think I way ahead of Metcalf. But, I mean, I still, even with this knee injury,
I still think I want to draft Metcalf.
It's not a bad flyer, but I think it's sort of in line
with a lot of the guys that we talk about,
that how long are you going to hold on to him
until he starts producing, and will he be there
to help you come the beginning of the season
based on the injury?
You know, I really didn't factor in DK Metcalf at all
when I was looking at Tyler Lockett.
I mean, he was always a fourth-round pick for me.
And like I said, now he's starting to creep up.
I wouldn't want to draft him in the third round,
but when you start to compare...
Antonio Brown's a no-brainer.
There's no chance I'm taking Antonio Brown over Tyler Lockett at this point.
Okay.
Wow.
That's...
But what if Antonio Brown's back at practice tomorrow?
There's no chance I'm taking Antonio Brown over Tyler Locke at this point.
Even in PPR?
There is no chance that I'm taking Antonio Brown over Tyler Locke at this point.
All right, Jamie, do you have a bold prediction to give us?
There is no chance that I'm taking.
I didn't know if you want to like bold, like wacky bold or bold bold.
So I'll give you a bold bold.
Justin Jackson will be the best Chargers running back this season.
Okay, that'll work.
That's pretty bold.
Yeah, he's going super late as well.
I just think that he's going to have the opportunity to score more touchdowns than Austin Eckler.
So what he should be able to do carrying the ball
will negate a little bit of what Eckler does in the passing game.
And Eckler's had a hard time staying healthy in his career.
So I could see Justin Jackson being the better replacement option.
I'm not going to draft it that way, but that's the way I could see it happening.
Do you think week one,
what do you think the touch split will be between them in week one against the Colts?
60-40?
Yeah, I'll go 50-50 carries, 70-30 targets. Right.
I think Justin Jackson will end up with more carries. Yeah, I'll go 50-50 carries, 70-30 targets. Right. In Eckler's favor.
I think just Jackson will end up with more carries.
So Jackson got two short yardage opportunities in this second game of the preseason.
He failed on both of them.
The week before, Eckler got some short yardage work
and he fumbled at the two-yard line.
So, so far, so bad in that regard.
But, you know, it just shows you one week they used Eckler there,
one week they used Jackson there. It might be a little frustrating what's that to be fair they they in the first
preseason game they used eckler first and then they went to jackson and jackson scored on a
short yardage touchdown like four yards out and then this week you saw you said it justin jackson
had the two at 10 right um all right so so we're still drafting Eckler ahead, but really,
people, if you're going 0 RB,
this is a pretty good backfield to
target right now, for sure.
Even if you don't go 0 RB.
Yeah, seriously. I mean,
when should Austin Eckler, he's going to be the first
one taken, he's definitely going to catch more passes
than Jackson, but when should Eckler
be taken? When are you guys ready to go on him?
Six. Six in PPR,
but if this continues, you could
say five in PPR. I've got him at
59. I'd rather take him in the sixth, but it's kind of like
I've got Lockett at 36, and I'd rather take him in the
fourth, so I'll say sixth for Eckler.
Okay. And Dave, bold prediction.
I believe you have two. I'm sorry. Before you
go to Dave, the other one I was going to say was Jacoby Myers is better
than Josh Gordon this year.
Wow.
That one's less likely to come true i think that was my wacky that they are right right all right dave what do you got yeah um two tight ends that i'm taking as top 12 options to
be in the year one of these two will be on every single one of my fantasy roster. Darren Waller, TJ Hawkinson.
And I'm willing to wait on tight end to get one or both of them.
Are you out on the top three tight ends now?
No, not at all.
I still would prefer to have one of those top three tight ends.
And I still might even be in a rush to get one of them.
But I'm happier to go after the upside with both
of those young tight end then guys like austin hooper mark andrews to me is undraftable at this
point no joke who i think is a joke um and vance mcdonald i still don't get it i know everybody's
super excited about him because of the potential opportunity in Pittsburgh. He's had opportunities before.
I think the receivers in Pittsburgh are better than we realize,
both Moncrief and James Washington.
And I think it's going to hurt McDonald.
All right, so that's Waller and Hawkinson are guys you're targeting,
but you're not going to have them on all your rosters because you're not going to draft two tight ends
if you draft one of the top three.
Wrong.
I'm going to do it.
Why would you do that? Because, Adam, if you've one of the top three wrong i'm gonna do it i'm gonna why would you do it
because adam if you've got a breakout tight end that you take with a late round pick you're gonna
be able to get a lot in trade for him all right i don't know man that seems that's a lot to spend
that's a that's a roster spot i'd rather have another with around 13 pick i'd rather have two
tight ends than two quarterbacks easily okay easily have rather of two tight ends than two quarterbacks.
My bold prediction is the first two ad drops Dave makes,
dropping the two tight ends to pick up Austin Hooper,
who goes undrafted in one of his leagues.
You can't take those guys over Delaney Walker, right?
I mean, he had a-
No, no, no, no, no.
I like Delaney a bunch.
Okay.
What's your other bold prediction?
That was the bold prediction.
Oh, both of them.
Two guys, but one position.
Okay, cool.
My bold prediction is that Adam Thielen
will be a top five wide receiver.
I think I'm going to push back
on some of the Adam Thielen bust talk on this show.
I know we think he's more of a third round pick
than a second round pick,
but just like,
I don't want to make too much of preseason,
but I'm just going to make a lot of last year.
Adam Thielen is a great player.
I don't want to doubt great players
anymore. They're going to throw at least
five times a game, which means Thielen will get
at least three targets. No, they're going to throw. I mean, they're not
going to just run the wishbone.
So I think
I'm totally fine with Adam Thielen.
I'm no longer thinking he's
going too early. I'm with you
by default. The guys
in front of him are just falling apart.
But that is really bold to say he's going to finish
better than he did last year when they throw the ball
a hundred fewer times. I don't know that
they are. I mean, we're assuming that, but
I don't know that they are. I mean, I'm not really
like, I think Madison looks pretty
average and
like, it's all looking good for Cook.
Mike Bloom looks better. Yeah. Yeah. So, I
don't know. I mean, that's their goal.
That doesn't mean it's going to happen.
And Thielen's just so good.
I just don't want to doubt.
He was a great player.
No, I'm with you.
It's hard to say that he's better than Amari Cooper.
It's hard to say that he's better than T.Y. Hilton at this point.
It's hard to say that he's better than...
Keenan Allen....than Keenan point. It's hard to say that he's better than Keenan Allen.
You know, who's banged up.
So I personally
would take him ahead of... And I'd rather take him
over Stephon Diggs. I would take him over
Diggs for sure. I would take Phelan over
Cooper, but not over Keenan Allen or
T.Y. Hilton.
That's me. So to me, I'm looking
as a top 30 pick.
You said a top five wide receiver.
I'm trying to, which of these,
like you're taking all these guys off the board.
I, look, it's a bold prediction.
We don't have to,
but I'm just saying that
in terms of my confidence in Adam Thielen,
it is there.
It is there.
I'm confident in him.
In a somewhat shaky group of wide receivers,
I feel good about Thielen.
Yeah, I can't call him a bust anymore.
Would you say you have a good Thielen about it?
I do, I do have a good Thielen.
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I've got a couple of things I'm unveiling today.
I'm going to read some Podcast League entries
that I've enjoyed.
And we have a new Heath Psy that think let's let's take a listen.
See how we like this one.
That's pretty good.
Pretty exasperated.
More of an H sound at the beginning.
So that's good.
I imagine that that's how Heath sounds after a Sunday's worth of work during the regular season.
Like he gets home, plops on his couch, lets out a sigh like that,
and then cracks open a cold cup.
I was thinking it sounded like I just had a taste of a very good beer.
Mmm.
Ah.
All right, well, I'm glad we have definitions for all the sighs.
Let's do some buy or sell real quick here.
And we will talk – oh, today –
I should tell everybody what's coming up on today's show.
You can try to read your emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
If I don't get it to the emails with Dave, Jamie, and Heath, I'll read them by myself.
I'll give you a little bonus coverage.
And you can tune out if you don't want to hear what I have to say.
But we're going to talk about the round three and four running backs.
The Marlon Mack, Josh Jacobs, Devontae Freeman, Mark Ingram, et cetera group, talk about the round three and four running backs the marlin mack josh jacobs davante freeman
mark ingram etc group chris carson and really try to dive into them and see who we like and
who we don't like because it is it is um little yeah it's huge it's just a huge portion of the
draft so we'll spend some time on that all right buy or sell guys guys. Josh Gordon should be drafted ahead of Antonio Brown.
If you told me 16 games, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
Sell.
I will sell it, but I think that they need to be drafted
within like a round and a half of each other.
Less.
Can we talk about where we're at?
Okay, Jamie is out on Antonio Brown. We really are out on Antonio Brown. Me and Mike Mayock where we're at? Okay, Jamie. Jamie is out on Antonio Brown.
We really are out on Antonio Brown.
Me and Mike Mayock, we're done.
Yeah.
Oh, you know what I should have said?
On Antonio Brown.
Yeah, man.
He's not there because of the helmet again.
And Mike Mayock's like, hey, either you're in or you're out.
So it's crunch time.
Talk about these two guys, Gordon and Brown.
I mean, obviously you're taking Antonio Brown over Josh Gordon
just with the chance of what Antonio Brown should be.
But look, Josh Gordon played really well with Tom Brady last year.
He played really well when Rob Gronkowski wasn't a big factor
or wasn't on the field.
And somebody just, I just saw it, tweeted that Paul Hembeckitus,
I don't know,
at Paul Hembo on Twitter,
Tom Brady averages more yards per attempt
targeting Josh Gordon than any player during his career,
10.4 yards per attempt.
He likes Josh Gordon.
I mean, I think that's a big part of this,
is that he's going to have a big role
on a team that needs him.
And so they're similar in some regard in that you don't know
if they're going to be there for 16 games at this point.
So if the choice is take Antonio Brown in round three or maybe round four
if he continues to slide with this latest mishap, I guess,
I'd rather just wait and take Josh Gordon in round five or round six.
Yeah, I do think they're opposite in one way,
in that I am more okay taking Brown at the end of round three in a PPR league.
In non-PPR, he falls well into the fourth for me.
For Gordon, I'll take him in the fifth in a non-PPR league,
but in PPR, he's probably going to fall into the sixth.
So it's really close in non-PPR.
I believe Gordon averaged over 100 yards per game in the three games
that Rob Gronkowski missed. He sure did.
He was on pace for 140 targets
and
10.3, 10.8
yards per target for Gordon, one of the
most efficient wide receivers in the league last
year. If he plays 16 games, he might just be a
top 20. He might be better than Adam Thielen.
He might be. 10.4 yards
per target. But not in PPRpr i don't think because gordon is a huge yards per catch guy career 17.4 yards
per catch in those three games without uh without rob gronkowski he had 100 yards 130 in a touchdown
and then 81 yards and you know based on those averages, it's only three games. But how good were those games?
Eighth best in non PPR, 15th best in PPR.
So, yeah.
And then so, Dave, why don't you tell me where you have these guys ranked and who they're around?
Antonio Brown and Josh Gordon.
Sure.
So I still for now have Antonio Brown as a end of second early round three pick.
It's going to change probably sometime this week when he doesn't come back to Raiders camp.
And if he doesn't come back to Raiders camp,
that tells you just how all out he is.
Gordon, I think of more as a round six pick.
I guess I'm a little more tentative about buying into him
than I am other receivers.
I've got, where do I have him ranked?
I'm looking at it right now.
I've got, where do I have them ranked? I'm looking at it right now. I've got Josh Gordon.
I got Melvin.
Josh Gordon is ahead of Allen Robinson,
Alshon Jeffrey, DeeDee, Mike Williams, Curtis Samuel.
There's going to come a point in your draft
where you're going to say,
God, all these wide receivers,
I don't know if they can get me to 1,000 yards.
And I think Josh Gordon can. So he's probably the, God, all these wide receivers, I don't know if they can get me to 1,000 yards. And I think Josh Gordon can.
So he's probably the last of that group of wide receivers
that I would look at with a 1,000-yard,
seven-touchdown type of lens.
I think he can get there, provided he plays 13-plus games,
for all the reasons that we talked about.
And the fact that he played so well without Gronk those three games,
I think that just adds to the optimism.
I'm going to add one more thing.
I was at the Kings Classic this weekend.
It's a two-draft-in-one-day event with a bunch of other analysts from other sites.
And there is not as much excitement about Josh Gordon
with some other respectable names in the business.
And I don't understand why that is.
I guess it's just because they're worried about a relapse or,
you know,
you draft him and he comes week one and he's out of shape.
Who knows?
There's just a lot of question marks still,
but we saw a video of him working out with Tom Brady.
He looked fine.
Then we know the Patriots tend to do the right thing when it comes to
preparing their players for games.
All these things combined provide optimism for me
on Josh Gordon.
I'm not going to get him in round five,
especially if I'm drafting with Heath and Jamie.
It sounds like they will take him before me.
But if I'm in a draft without Heath and Jamie
and he's there in round six, I'm going to take him.
Okay. Real quick, guys,
would you rather have Calvin Ridley or Josh Gordon?
I have Ridley ranked higher. Ridley. Okay. Cooper Ridley or Josh Gordon. I have Ridley ranked higher.
Ridley.
Ridley.
Ridley.
Okay.
Cooper Cupp or Josh Gordon?
Cupp.
Cupp.
Cupp.
All right.
But he's probably just after them.
Buy or sell?
New England wide receiver Jacoby Myers is worth drafting.
Sell.
Yeah.
Sell.
He might have been if Josh Gordon hadn't been reinstated.
He's got a really good
camp but if edelman and gordon and james white are all there they're just not enough targets
buy or sell darwin thompson is going to win people their fantasy leagues
bye yeah uh but it's not going to happen right away there will come a time this year where
darwin thompson will be very helpful for your fantasy team, just like Damian Williams was last year.
Yeah.
So, Dave, what's your takeaway after talking to Andy Reid about the Chiefs running backs?
Well, Reid still isn't going to come out and say what he's going to do.
When I asked him if he was still using a committee, he said that, quote, we could do that.
I think Carlos Hyde just doesn't offer much of anything that Damian Williams or
Darwin Thompson can't do or Daryl Williams for that matter.
And they save a million bucks off the cap.
If they cut Carlos Hyde,
I think Carlos Hyde is in trouble.
The fumble,
I guess it doesn't really matter because he went right back in after he fumbled
the ball against Pittsburgh on his third carry.
But Willie,
I got an up close look at Damian Williams.
He looks strong.
He doesn't look like as small of a running back as he's been before.
Darwin Thompson is definitely short.
Not quite as thick as the chiefs would have you believe,
but he can win the edge on those outside runs every single time.
He was,
he was pulling forward with defenders on them or short gains.
He's a good receiver out of the backfield.
And if you go back and watch the touchdown that Chad Henney threw to McCall Hardman,
he laid an amazing block out to keep a rusher off of Chad Henney.
And it was the second time in the game that he did that.
And there aren't a lot of rookies that are great pass protectors right away.
You can ask Tony Pollard about that.
Well, yeah.
So I think that this is the duo, Adam. This is the duo.
If you're going to draft Chiefs running backs,
Damian in round three,
Darwin in round nine or round 10,
get one, get both, feel good.
The only thing I'll push back on is
I'd be really surprised if a Carlos Hyde preseason fumble
had anything to do with the roster decision.
He's not had a fumble problem in his career.
He's fumbled four times in the last two seasons,
and that's over 400 touches.
He's not a fumbler.
It's nine times in the last three seasons.
He didn't lose every single one of them.
It's 11 times in his whole career.
Right.
He just doesn't have a fumbling problem.
Who's a better late-round running back,
Darwin Thompson or Tony Pollard?
Thompson.
For now.
I'll still say Thompson, yeah.
Yes, Thompson.
I mean, obviously, if Ezekiel Elliott is still a no-show in, like, six days,
then that could change pretty quickly.
The minute Ezekiel Elliott shows up,
you're going to see Pollard not get drafted in most of them.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, but at the same time, like,
I feel like he has to be drafted right now.
And if you do draft Zeke, Pollard looks really good.
And Jerry Jones likes him.
Zeke?
Okay, there we go. That's fine.
Buy or sell?
CJ Anderson is going to have enough of a role
to prevent a Kerryon Johnson breakout.
I guess here's my question.
If Kerryon Johnson plays 16 games
and averages 85 yards a game per last year,
like he did last year.
Did he break out?
He was on his way.
Yeah.
Because I think he'll be just as good as he was last year.
It's just whether he plays 16 games.
Anderson's going to have a role.
I expect Karrion to catch more passes.
But there's plenty of touches for C.J. Anderson to get a few
and Karrion to still break out also.
Okay.
That works.
Buy or sell.
Jalen Samuels is going to have enough of a role to anger James Conner owners.
Buy.
I'm not buying it enough.
I think Jalen Samuels is good.
Can't deny that.
I liked watching him play against the Chiefs, and obviously you saw what he did last year.
But I still think the Steelers view Connor as their primary back.
There might be a couple times this season
where Samuels steals some numbers
from Connor and it makes you a little upset,
but I don't think it's going to be enough to make you
regret drafting James Connor.
It just didn't seem like
Samuels was really in there
when Connor was in there. It seemed like Connor
got all his work and then they just turned it over to Samuels.
It didn't seem like a real duo, you know?
I don't think it is.
It's true.
It doesn't mean that's what it will be going forward,
but that was my interpretation.
Well, and one other part of it is that I believe
this was Conor's first preseason game.
So maybe they just really wanted to get him going a little bit.
I believe he played three series with the Steelers,
and then Samuels had some work.
Samuels was mixing in with Benny Snell.
Right.
So I agree with you.
I think they look at Jalen Samuels as the backup to Connor.
He does offer some traits that make him interesting in the offense.
He's a good player.
He is a good player.
He's got a better player in front of him.
Would you take Jalen Samuels or Darwin Thompson?
Darwin. Darwin. Jalen Samuels or Darwin Thompson? Darwin.
Darwin.
Jalen.
All right.
Okay, guys.
Let's...
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
Darwin.
Darwin.
Darwin.
That made more sense.
One more real quick.
Buy or sell Malcolm Brown is Todd Gurley's handcuff.
Buy.
That's an interesting buy because what have we seen to believe that nothing and that's the
point because he didn't play and todd and sean mcveigh doesn't play his valuable players and
he didn't play malcolm brown and he told us that malcolm brown was the backup at the beginning of
camp works for me all right yeah it's hard to trust Daryl Henderson right now. Malcolm Brown, your handcuff right now for Todd Gurley.
Oh boy, we got a lot to talk about when we come back.
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Sure.
It is Tarrade's money for the St. Jude Children's Hospital.
It's going to be awesome.
We have several former NFL players that are going to be joining us.
Some of the best fantasy guys that we've talked about over the last several years.
Guys like Roddy White, Matt Forte, Eddie Lacy, Dwayne Bowe.
It's going to be fun to have those guys tell some stories about their playing career
and probably some of their fantasy people that bother them about their fantasy follies in some cases.
We're going to have some professional wrestlers
join us as well.
All of our cast of characters that
you're used to seeing on our site
from Pete Prisco, Drink, to
Brian McFadden, Danny Cannell,
all of us here. The guys
from the Pick 6 podcast are going to be here.
I think the biggest thing though is that we're raising money
for the St. Jude Children's Hospital.
You have the chance to win some, have some chance to auction.
What did we say?
Buy some stuff?
Buy some stuff.
Yeah, buy.
Win an auction.
Win an auction.
Some pretty cool things from Ben Roethlisberger signed football, a championship belt from the WWE, a lot of autograph stuff that we've been collecting over our camp trips.
But I think the coolest thing, though, again, is that we're trying to help kids in obviously some tough situations.
And just one story just to relate, and it ties in to what we do here.
There's a guy who's been emailing me for years.
His name is Chad, and asking for fantasy advice. And when he found out we're doing the telephone,
he wrote in about his son, Quinn, who's almost six, who's dealing with a cancer situation.
And he really wants to help in any way that he can to raise money. He's doing a fundraiser himself
in Memphis in December to, you know,
help raise money for his son.
And, you know, hearing stuff like this, you know, really hits home.
You know, we all have kids ourselves here.
And, you know, you hear about somebody that's, you know,
dealing with something.
I've never met Chad.
I know, you know, very little about him.
But, you know, I've communicated with him for probably about, you know,
seven, eight years.
And, you know, really rooting for him and his son.
And, you know, anything we can do on our part, you know, while we're talking fantasy football to help raise money is, eight years, and really rooting for him and his son. Anything we can do on our part while we're talking fantasy football
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Give me something creative.
I think I'm going to make three leagues this
year, actually, instead of just two.
But I don't think we'll be part of
the third one. Just kind of one for listeners.
Oh, there's going to be an episode
in our feed tomorrow that's going to
throw you off a little bit. It's going to be the Pick 6
Takeover. Will Brinson's going to host it. They're going to take over the feed. So you'll
have six episodes this week instead of five. I'll publish it on Tuesday night. And the Pick Six crew
is going to do about a half hour. I think one of the guys, Jamie Daver Heath, will be on with them.
So looking forward to that. I'm going to be on the Pick Six podcast. You know, just kind of a
little cross promotion. We have other podcasts you want to listen to cbssports.com slash podcast check them all out and we haven't done team name tuesday
yet but we forgot about this story tradition on our show team name tuesday send in your team names
put we've all forgot about it in the subject line and we're all gonna have a great time as i laugh
and nobody else does are there any other preseason winners or losers
that you guys want to talk about?
There's a bunch.
Let's go.
I'd like to start with the Jets.
I continue to be impressed with Sam Darnold,
who was very accurate,
working with Robbie Anderson,
working with Quincy Inunua.
Jameson Crowder didn't have many targets,
but he played in the game.
He had no targets. Right. Quincy Inunua, Jamison Crowder didn't have many targets, but he played in the game. I think Sam Darnold is going to help guys like Robbie and Crowder,
Chris Herndon when he comes back,
and obviously Le'Veon Bell put up some good numbers this year.
And what impressed me the most is that he was doing it with an offensive line
with four backups starting in the preseason game.
Wasn't rattled by Falcons' pass rush.
I think they got to him once.
I think Sam Darnold is not going to be a great fantasy quarterback.
I don't know if you need to draft him.
But if you have any worries about Robbie Anderson or Crowder or Le'Veon,
I think it helps that Sam Darnold looks like the genuine article.
Yeah, I need one of those guys to not be very involved in the passing game.
Because if Crowder and Anderson and Bell are all three heavily involved
and then Hernan comes back and Sam Darnold's not a starting fantasy quarterback,
one of those guys is going to be terrible.
There's not enough targets.
Could part of the problem be that just Sam Darnold could be a 18-21 type of fantasy point producer?
I may take the over on that.
You don't have to draft it that way, but I think if these guys all can click,
which I don't think is a huge stretch,
because you're looking at,
Anderson's obviously been productive
at points in his career.
Crowder's had some moments.
We know what Le'Veon's capable of doing
in the passing game,
and I don't want to,
I'll speak for myself,
if Herndon wasn't suspended,
he'd be a top 12 tight end.
By now, he probably would be.
Yeah.
I had to rank that way before the suspension came down.
So, you know, I think there's a lot to like about what the surrounding things are for
Darnold.
And it's, you know, Baker obviously showed us he could be a good fantasy quarterback
last year.
Lamar Jackson's a little bit different because of his rushing.
You could put Josh Allen in that same category, but nobody seems to be as high as Josh Allen.
This group of quarterbacks is good, and they're good for a reason.
And Darnold's the one that's getting overlooked.
Understandably so.
You know, you have Adam Gase with the crazy eyes
and what he did in Miami, and nobody wants to buy into it.
Smelling salts.
Right.
It feels like there's a little bit of a wackiness to it.
But I don't have a problem if you do drive two quarterbacks and and
darnell's the one you take a flyer on in a one quarterback league sure just to see how this all
plays out all right let's get more winners i'm gonna i'm just gonna say chris carson just really
running ahead of rashad penny yep and in a look i don't know what they're gonna do in the regular
season but based on preseason week two, more heavily weighted toward Carson.
And he had two targets than I anticipated.
More heavily weighted toward him compared to Penny.
So, you know, I'd say Carson, he's been rising, and it's justified.
Yep.
I'll take somebody who didn't play, Andrew Luck.
Cool, yeah.
Look good in those little drills.
Which is also good for the other Colts players, by the way.
The fact that he was just moving around.
The one thing Chris Ballard said was his lateral movement.
Well, what did he come out and show you?
Purposely, I'm sure, is that he's moving around.
And yet, that's on the heels of the report of Chris Mortensen,
that there's optimism that he'll play for week one.
So he's back for me as a starting fantasy quarterback.
Heath, winners?
Well, I was going to say Ty Montgomery.
We talked enough about the Jets.
I got one.
I don't know.
Kalen Balazs is obviously a huge winner because of Kenyon Drake's injury.
And they didn't even play him in this game.
Obviously, trying to protect him, I think, because of Drake's status.
So, I guess Balazs.
There's another one that we sort of touched on, because of break status. So, I guess Balazs. There's another one
that we sort of touched on, part of it.
Tom Brady's a winner with Josh
Gordon coming back. You know, I mean, if you were
out on Tom Brady, which
the industry was, and
people doing their drafts already were,
for obvious reasons. You know, you lose Gronk, you lose
all the receivers that he lost, and
you're older, plus he didn't play very well down the stretch
fantasy-wise.
Now you give him a legit second weapon
and he's
a big winner.
I would draft him at this point over Kyler
Murray. I've got him ahead of Kyler,
ahead of Breeze, and ahead of Russell Wilson.
Yeah, I'm not there.
Really? Yeah.
Okay. Not there.
Yeah, me either.
They're going to run the ball so much. I feel like Brady's going to finish around where he did last year, QB 12.
He's going to be fine.
When we're talking about Brady, Wilson, and Breeze,
who do you think has the most pass attempts out of that group?
With the way the Seahawks defense is falling apart.
I'm starting to think it's Wilson.
But it might not be much more than Brady.
I think Brady has the most.
Breeze, I think, is dead last
between just the way that things have been going for him
and now Taysom Hill,
like the way he showed in the preseason game.
Who knows what he's going to have to do.
Breeze could go backwards by 50
and Wilson could come up by 40
and Breeze would still have more than Wilson.
No, I agree with you. I think Wilson's last
in terms of pass attempts, but
I do think that
to Adam's point about him finishing
12th, I think it's a very
good chance that he does that.
Yeah, he's good.
I mean,
I know Heath and I are fighting
over Lamar Jackson, but you can
make a case he's better than Lamar Jackson, but you can make a case he's better than Lamar Jackson,
safer than Lamar Jackson.
He is safer than Lamar Jackson for sure.
I just don't think Brady has top five upside personally.
Agreed.
I think the one thing about the quarterback position this year,
and we may look back on it foolishly,
is the guys who are tried and true of Wilson, Breeze, Brady, Rivers,
Roethlisberger,
and we all have them in different ways,
who we like, who we don't like,
they may end up still being top 10 guys.
The Kylers and the Jacksons
and
I think of the guys like we're rushing
up the... Baker, Winston. Baker, Winston,
Wentz, for health reasons.
At least he's shown you some. yeah Baker and Winston uh are just flops well which shows you how you
can wait and still be good at that position oh yeah oh yeah for sure um okay last thing the
Sean McCoy don't forget about the Sean McCoy he had a one yard rushing touchdown he's still there
starting running back he's alive Top 30 first three weeks of the
season. It might be more than that. I'd be top 24.
I don't know why you guys think the Jets run
defense is going to be so bad. I know they lost
every Williams. Yeah, but they've
drafted two defensive tackles
as top five picks in the last
three years. They might not have that bad of a defense.
And they still have C.J. Mosley. Weren't they bad
last year?
Quinton Williams is an absolute beast.
He is a beast.
They've drafted beasts over and over and over again.
And they've had good run defenses.
They've had really good run defenses when they had Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson.
They're going to be very good.
It doesn't – look, you don't have to draft LaShawn McCoy to start him,
but to Heath's point, it would not be a surprise if he's good.
And it's also factoring in the other two games that they play.
Yeah, at the Giants in Week 2.
Bengals. Cincinnati Week 3. Yeah, yeah. Great start
for McCoy. He's still alive. I still
like Devin Singletary with a late-round pick.
He may be involved in the passing. He may be at three catches
for 25 yards.
Alright, we gotta take another break here. The losers are,
I'm just gonna say, the Cardinals. When we come back, we gotta
talk about those Round 3 and Round 4 running
backs, break it down, and try to help you win your league.
We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today.
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All right. Welcome back, everybody. It's been a fun show so far. A lot of storylines over the
weekend. Also, a lot of podcast league entries. And again, CBSI.FantasyFootball at CBSI.com. And here's why you need to know the email address. Here's one of the entries we got from Mike from Simpleton Anywhere. Dear Stan, Kyle, Eric, and Kenny. Those are South Park dudes. I am writing this email hoping to get a pity invite into the podcast league. I've been listening for eight years, eight or nine, to both the football and the baseball podcasts, and I've written probably
50 emails without ever getting a response. I thought you guys were jerks, but as it turns out,
I'm an idiot. For years, I was writing to fantasyfootballatcbsey.com. Yes, that's right.
I is an eyeball because the CBS logo either is an eye or at least looks like one
so i'm asking to have some sympathy for the simpleton that is me love the podcast all right
yeah well i'm not gonna necessarily put you in the league but thank you lesson learned i'm gonna
read an email mocking you yeah of course no he's in he's in no jamie you don't get to make that
decision the wrong address he's in that's that is... No, we have a lot of really good entries.
Wait a minute.
We each get one exemption.
No, we don't.
No, I get five.
Who the hell said that?
No, I am making the rules for the podcast league.
You do not.
I'm so tired of Jamie Eisenberg every year.
What's his name?
I don't get...
No.
What's his name?
No.
I'll just look at your notes for the first time ever.
What's his name?
It's not in my notes.
This is from Doug Smith in Maryland.
Here's a nice poem. I think Doug is probably
going to get it. And Ernest is also in from the radio show for
calling. Listen, Jamie, you have given away
every spot in the podcast league. You need to stop
doing that. We're now up to a 2018 podcast
league. You said there's three leagues. Give these two guys
one of the spots. Okay, maybe I will, but we have hundreds
of entries. There are a lot of good ones.
Relax. I've only said two. Here we go.
Or four. God, why does he do that
everybody? I can't take it. I can't take it. I cannot only said two. Here we go. Or four. God, why does he do that, everybody? I can't take it.
I can't take it.
I cannot take it anymore.
The only good thing.
Maybe we just need a podcast league just for Jamie.
All right, here we go.
I'm talking now.
Twas the day of the draft and all through the league,
every owner was stricken with Azar fatigue.
As Jamie and Heath wax sardonic and classy,
and Dave claims that Bill is from West Tallahassee.
The CBS boys educate and throw down, a laugh in the keys to a fantasy crown.
So with breakouts and busts played on loop in my ear,
beads of sweat on my brow meant that draft time was near.
All the cheat sheets were piled on the table with care
in hopes that Mahomes in round three would be there.
With sleepers on foredesk and breakouts on aft,
I had what I needed to cruise
through this draft, so I steadied my nerve and I readied my mouse and blocked out all the chaos
and noise in the house. Somehow I forgot that this ought to be fun, as I stiffened my back for the
start of round one. I had the first pick we'd drawn just before, had my pick of the lot from
among the big four. I'd nail it, of course, and get started off well, but then somehow I clicked Sorry. air and I prayed that a bargain awaited me there. I focused on value and trusted good sense,
but found myself drafting a flipping defense. Sorry. In round three, the plot grew decidedly thicker when I hovered and clicked on a middling kicker. With virtual laughs ringing loud in my
ears, I tossed and I turned in my puddle of tears. Then I bolted upright in my bed in the dark and
lost all the sounds of the sneers and the snark the panic
receded as well as the sorrow my draft it would seem was not till tomorrow that's very good the
guy was better no he wasn't okay yeah give it give it to the cbsi guy you're the worst
all right rounds three and four running backs. Let's just go through it.
You tell me how you feel about them.
You can spell entry with E-Y-E, right?
You cannot spell entry without... I like how you thought about that.
E-Y, just E-Y.
E-N-T-R-Y.
I'm going to say a name.
Tell the E-Y-E guy to email me personally,
and I'll give him my spot.
You're not giving away your spot, JB.
You're in the podcast league.
No, no.
I'm having a team shared by five people.
Ernest, this guy.
I hope you are watching the video.
I can't take it.
I want to see the look of frustration.
JB does this to me every year, like five times a year.
He's like, oh, put that person in the podcast league.
He gives away every spot.
Yeah, because I'm nice.
You're mean. Okay, JB, you're commissioner of the league. All right, here we go. He's like, oh, put that person in the podcast league. He gives away every spot. Yeah, because I'm nice. You're mean.
Make another.
Okay, Jamie, you commission another league.
All right, here we go.
No, no, no.
You're perfect for it.
Chris Carson.
Just give me your quick thoughts, Chris Carson.
I like him a lot.
Yep.
Lots of targets and touches,
and he has risen up my draft board,
and he's one of the best of the round three and four running backs.
I'm writing a nice apology to him this week.
By the way, I am starting after Leonard Fournette and Kerryon Johnson, Dalvin Cook, in case those guys make it to the third round.
We're starting after that.
All right, Carson, we like.
Josh Jacobs.
I would take Carson in round two.
Wow.
Woo.
Wow.
Late round two.
Give him to me.
I don't want to be the low guy on Josh Jacobs.
But I look at his name and his placement on this list,
and there are many running backs listed below him
that I would rather draft than him.
So that's why I keep putting my bus column.
I'm sorry.
You shouldn't have to apologize.
Well, I'll say this.
Offense is going to look weird without Antonio Brown there.
Right.
That's the new strike against him, if there's any strike against him.
Think about all the running backs that did great in Pittsburgh.
It was because Antonio Brown was part of the crew taking the top off.
If he's not there, I don't know if Tyrell Williams can be that guy for Oakland.
I know he thinks he can.
But I think it will make it harder on Jacobs.
Well, let me just frame this discussion a little bit.
I'm giving you an order that's not
necessarily reflective of ADP. And I do think that this entire group of running backs, for most of
them, there are 10 that I'm going to mention, it's justifiable to take in any order. It's a tier.
So there's that. And then I really want to know how much confidence you have, or if you feel like
you're wavering. So what would you say to sum it up? I don't want to know how much confidence you have or if you feel like you're wavering.
So what would you say to sum it up?
I don't want to necessarily meter it,
but what would you say to sum it up on Josh Jacobs?
Three.
Six.
Seven.
Okay.
Devante Freeman.
Seven.
Six.
Actually, my favorite of this group,
I've got him one spot ahead of chris carson
and i think he's going to be very good and worthy of a third round pick just stay healthy who gets
i don't see that's all he has to do okay i don't i don't see much difference between him and and
dalvin cook and in some cases carry on johnson london for net who gets more touches j Josh Jacobs or Devontae Freeman per game?
Jacobs.
Same.
I would say Jacobs.
Barely.
Jacobs, barely.
Okay. Marlon Mack.
I'm starting to get a little worried.
Just a little. This is the range
for him, for sure.
I don't know. There little worried. Just a little. This is the range for him, for sure. But I'm just, I don't know.
There's things about him I like.
There's things about him that I don't like.
I'm worried about the injuries.
I'm worried about him getting usurped in the red zone
by all the other targets that Indianapolis has.
Not sure he's a great running back.
I love him in this range.
More so in non-PPR than PPR.
I think he's going to have a tremendous season given this offensive line.
I know they have not looked great in the preseason,
but there's been a significant guy missing.
And if Andrew Luck is healthy, Marlon Mack is going to be a superstar.
You're talking about the line, somebody missing from the line?
Or are you talking about Luck missing?
That's true.
The offensive line was without their two best players
in their last preseason game as well.
I view him a lot like Jacobs. I'm fine with him in the mid to late fourth, but I'm scared in the third.
So Marlon Mack, what concerns me about him just looking at the game log is that it was really easy for him to have a bad game.
You know, all it took was either they were trailing or they faced a really good run defense.
It just it seemed like it was easy to derail him
because a lot of his production was in these massive games at Oakland.
He would get like 20 carries or something.
And then he had five games out of 12 with 12 or fewer carries.
So it just felt like there was an easy path for derailment with Marlon Mack.
And I feel the same way.
Anytime you've got a potential to come off the field in passing downs,
then you can be derailed by a bad game script.
Okay.
Yep.
End of story.
Aaron Jones.
I think one of the trickiest players, guys.
Aaron Jones.
I agree.
That's the best way to put it because the talent is there,
but the schedule sucks for him. We know that he's got some injury concerns. He's already
battled back from a hamstring injury. He's not going to be the every down back. He might be the
lead back for the Packers, but I'm concerned about his workload and him being healthy for
14 games, 13 games. I don't, I'm not ready to to invest with him in a top 35 pick, which is where his ADP is.
Same thing I said about
Mack and Jacobs. I like him slightly more than those
two, but
they're right in that same range.
Good fourth round pick.
Aaron Jones. Jamie, thoughts on
Aaron Jones? No, agreed.
I think it's
hard to say that he should be ahead of these guys.
I think he's behind them.
Not the entire list, the guys we've talked about already.
So the guys we've talked about already, just to refresh,
are Chris Carson, Josh Jacobs, Devontae Freeman, and Marlon Mack.
I'm like seduced by the potential of Aaron Jones.
As a player, he's a superstar.
Yep, I get that.
He's an unbelievable downhill
runner. He's a better-than-you-know pass
catcher out of the backfield.
But just the negatives, the track
record of Packers running backs with Aaron Rodgers,
it makes me nervous.
Okay. Mark Ingram.
I thought he looked great in the preseason
game.
He's older.
He doesn't have the wear and tear of a typical 29-year-old running back.
It's a great offense to be in if you're a running back.
I am a little concerned about other running backs in Baltimore
taking touches away from him,
and I am very concerned about Lamar Jackson taking numbers away from him
in short yardage goal line situations and probably just in general we know that lamar
jackson's going to run a lot and it could leave mark ingram with some really ugly games when you
look at the average job position if you're watching the the show on the youtube page uh and if you
just look at the cbs sports adp you're you're talking josh jacobs round three freeman round
three mac round three aaron jones round, Mark Ingram end of round four.
That is fantastic value for what he could be in this offense.
Yeah, I think mostly that that's the way.
Those guys are too high.
Mark Ingram's right where he should be.
Yeah, I think it seems like we're higher in general on this group of running backs than you are, Heath.
If you're taking all of these guys in round four, I'm not
sure how you're getting them.
I don't think that's true
in regards to Freeman. I don't think it's
true in regards to Carson. I'm not
sure it's true in regards to a couple of running
backs that are left on the list.
The middle range, Jones, Mack,
Jacobs, Ingram, yeah, that's probably true.
Okay. Good. That's a good
way to frame it uh damian
williams damian williams he's he's back in the round three range for me and ppr for sure yeah
yeah i agree there ppr yes uh just outside and non-ppr you still have to factor in injury and
some other guys taking touches whether it's hide making the team or not for what it's worth in the
final six games including the postseason,
when he started getting work,
he was on pace for 205 carries
and 64 catches.
It's not a great workload,
but it's not bad.
And no reason why it can't go up.
There's plenty in this offense.
Yeah, right, right.
You don't need more than that.
If you promise me that,
I'm taking him in round two,
not round three.
He might be a first-round pick
if he gets 260 catches.
Okay.
David Montgomery.
I love that the Bears, well, I mean, the Bears rested everybody
in their preseason game against the Giants, but he was among them.
I think they know what they've gotten him.
I think he's going to lead Chicago easily in touches, total yards, touchdowns,
and round four is where I'm going.
It's very hard for me to still rank Ingram ahead of David Montgomery,
but I'm doing it.
But I think they're both great late round four pick.
All I'm worried about is the touches.
And he is my lowest ranked guy that we've talked about so far.
Jamie,
I think,
I think round four is if you're all in on Montgomery.
If you just like him and you want to see how this all plays out,
round five is probably the sweet spot for him.
And if you're like Heath, you just want to avoid him,
then you pull for him in round six.
But I don't think he's going to get it.
No way.
I mean, he's going to go in round three in drafts, in some drafts.
David Montgomery, he's going to be in this mix.
I don't think round three.
I do. drafts in some drafts david montgomery like he's gonna be i don't think round three i i do i mean
i feel like all right i think he's a top 40 pick you know maybe well as in you you would take him
as a top 40 pick or you think i don't know that's just what his adp is gonna be i i think people
are gonna fall overall and you need a running back, and he's there, and Marlon Mack is there, and Mark Ingram's there.
I'd take the other guys over him.
I would too.
But if they're gone, if it's David Montgomery, Derek Henry,
Sonny Michel, is it even close?
In non-PPR, it's close to me with Michel.
I'd rather have Michel in non-PPR.
I'd take Montgomery.
You'd take Montgomery.
I expect Montgomery to catch passes, right?
I mean, more than
Jordan Howard did.
Absolutely.
That's my fear
for Tariq Cohen.
All right, so
Derrick Henry.
You can have him.
I will be a little
more optimistic,
but it's more to me like
if you get him in round five,
I think it's good value
in non- PPR.
We know that he'll get over the scap injury.
We know he's been working on the side.
They know what they're going to do with him.
We know,
we know.
Yes.
There are reports about him working on the side.
And I mean,
you say,
we know that we,
he'll get over it.
You don't know.
Well,
he's on his,
okay,
fine.
I don't know for sure that he is going to get over it,
but it sounds like he's trending in the direction of being ready for week one.
Okay.
What that means in this godforsaken offense that he's in in Tennessee,
I have no idea,
but he's another running back that's going to get 15-plus touches a game
and work the goal line.
And when you see those in round five,
I think you've got to take them.
Last one here.
He's my least favorite guy in this group.
Tevin Coleman.
Do you like Tevin Coleman better than Derrick Henry?
Leaps and bounds better.
I like Tevin Coleman better than almost every running back on this list.
Really?
I'm with you.
I do.
Ooh, that's hot.
No, I'm taking Tevin over Derrick Henry.
Go ahead, Heath.
Professor Love.
Yeah, my top four in PPR would bepr would be freeman carson williams
and tevin coleman i just don't know when you look at a lot of these other running backs and the
upside that we've given them and it exists we were so worried about the committee in san francisco
and it's still going to be a committee but most of these other running backs are not getting 18 touches per game.
Coleman has been a top 25 running back with a limited workload,
and I would expect that we're going to see his touches go up slightly.
I do think he's the most likely now,
unless Jarek McKinnon makes a miraculous recovery and is ready for week one,
I think he's the most likely to be involved in pass-catching situations.
He may be the most likely to be involved in pass catching situations. He may be the most likely to be involved in short yardage.
I've got him as a top 20 running back in both formats,
and I do believe there's top 12 to 15 upside.
Okay.
So let's go.
Everybody give your top four again.
That was a good idea, Heath.
Start with you and then Dave and Jamie.
Top four from this group of 10.
Freeman, Carson.
I gave five. No, four. Freeman, Carson, I gave five, but no, four.
Freeman, Carson, Damian, Coleman.
For me, it's Damian, Carson, Jacobs.
I'm sorry, that's not right.
It's Carson.
I see Jacobs ahead of Damian Williams and I hesitate.
For now, I've got Jacobs ahead of Damian Williams.
I don't know if I'm going to keep that.
And then Freeman is fourth. Carson now, I've got Jacobs out of Damian Williams. I don't know if I'm going to keep that. And then Freeman is fourth.
Carson, Mack, Freeman, Jacobs.
All right. So we've heard a lot of love for Carson
and Freeman as top four
in this group of ten. You heard
Josh Jacobs for two of the guys.
Tevin Coleman, Love. A little bit
of Marlon Mack. All right. So again, just to
repeat the names in case you're lost.
They were Chris Carson, Josh Jacobs, Devante Freeman, Marlon Mack, Aaron Jones, Mark Ingram, Damian Williams,
David Montgomery, Derrick Henry, and Tevin Coleman. I hope that helps you out. If you go with two
receivers to start your team and you want to take two of these guys, I hope that this was helpful.
It seems like we're avoiding Derrick Henry. Tevin Coleman is a big riser. Chris Carson is a big riser.
And we'll continue to monitor the situations and see how things unfold.
I'm going to stick around and read some emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
I'm going to say goodbye to the video crew, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Thank you very much.
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Well, as you all may have figured out by now,
I am plotting to basically take over the show and start doing it by myself so here's my audition mike in boston massachusetts
says dear philbert heifer mr big head and really really really big man well if that's part of my
audition i have no idea who those people are so he so mike's question is is really interesting
you know do you take the guaranteed stud or value?
They're both such good values here.
10-team PPR, I have the 10th pick.
Should I keep Saquon Barkley at 10th overall
or Juju Smith-Schuster at 50th overall?
And I am leaning Saquon Barkley there.
I could understand a case for either one,
but I would just take Barkley.
You're getting him 10th overall.
If everything goes right for both Barkley and Juju, they'll both be
great, but Barkley will be a lot better.
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I play in a 12-team auction league.
We get to keep one rookie and one veteran from last year's roster for free.
It is non-PPR scoring, two receivers, two running backs, and two flex bots.
I'm already keeping Julio Jones, but which rookie should I keep?
Out of Ronald Jones, Dante Pettis, Kalen Balazs, Royce Freeman, and Anthony Miller.
So obviously these are last year's rookies.
Alright, you might be surprised by my answer.
But I am actually going to
go with Ronald Jones. I think he
will win that job. I think
he just offers something that Peyton
Barber doesn't, and that's like talent.
He's better. So I
am going to go with Ronald Jones there.
Especially in non-PPR.
I would consider Dante Pettis if it were PPR,
but I'll go with one of the running backs.
So for me, it was between either Jones or Freeman,
and I'm going to go with Ronald Jones.
This is from Garrett.
My keepers are Tyreek Hill and Le'Veon Bell.
I have the second pick of the draft,
and I'm anticipating Nick Chubb going first overall.
So if that happens, I already have Hill and Le'Veon Bell.
That leaves me with George Kittle,
Kerryon Johnson, Adam Thielen, and Stefan Diggs,
or Melvin Gordon.
Who should I take?
Kerryon Johnson is who you should take.
You've been listening to the show.
We love Kerryon Johnson.
Take Kerryon Johnson.
This is from Francisco from a suburb of Phoenix.
Where's he from, Dave?
That's right.
From Francisco, he says, hey, Shannon, Rob, Antonio, and Tony.
Those are tight ends.
Those are awesome tight ends.
Keep O.J. Howard in the eighth or Hunter Henry in the 13th?
Heath sigh.
Oh, man.
I think the eighth round is early enough.
There's some really good players there.
So I'm leaning Henry.
I'm leaning Henry.
51% of me says Hunter Henry.
49% says OJ Howard.
It's a toss-up.
But round eight, I mean, a five-round difference, Henry in the 13th instead of Howard in the eighth. 49% says OJ Howard. It's a toss-up, but round eight,
I mean, a five-round difference,
Henry in the 13th instead of Howard in the eighth,
I think I'd do it.
That's just tremendous value for Hunter Henry.
All right, Joe, last email here.
Hey, Saquon, Alvin, Christian, and Ezekiel.
Those are three of the top four running backs and one guy who's currently holding out.
In one of my favorite redraft leagues,
I have the second pick.
It's PPR. I'm going to grab either McCaffrey or Kamara with my first pick, but I'm terrified of
my second round pick. I'm hoping to get either Evans or Keenan Allen and then George Kittle.
But in some mocks, neither wide receiver's there and I feel absolutely helpless.
Who would you take if Evans and Allen are both gone? So I think Kittle in round three is a very solid pick.
I think Kerryon Johnson and Dalvin Cook and Leonard Fournette are in play here.
But I also think if you want a receiver, T.Y. Hilton and Adam Thielen would be my two favorites
there in that order. T.Y. Hilton. These are after Evans and Allen. T.Y. Hilton, Adam Thielen,
and then those three running backs I mentioned. Karyon Johnson,
Dalvin Cook.
I think I'd still take Cook over
Karyon Johnson. So let's go Cook, Karyon,
and Leonard Fournette.
Those five players, plus George Kittle
and Zach Ertz, are the ones I'd be looking at.
Seven overall players for you to choose from.
Good luck, Joe.
How'd I do, everybody? Alright, thanks so much for listening.
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