Fantasy Football Today - 08/20: Draft Day Primer, Listener Tweets, SF-DEN Thoughts (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 20, 2019

Let's start with our reactions from a very revealing SF-DEN game. Is Emmanuel Sanders a Top 100 pick now? Adam still believes in Jimmy Garoppolo, but should you (2:42)? Garoppolo or Kyler Murray? And what do we make of the other WRs and the DEN and SF backfields? ... News and notes (14:45) as Corey Clement gets in the mix for PHI, Marquise Brown practices, Mike Evans is dinged up and another JAC WR gets good press. Then we answer a whole bunch of your tweets (23:00) about LeSean McCoy, David Montgomery, Darwin Thompson, Tevin Coleman and many more ... Reviewing the last few weeks of our show, we sum up our strategies for each position (34:35) and we tell you how your draft approach should change in different formats (45:50). Standard scoring, 0.5 PPR, PPR, Superflex, 3WR, it's all covered! ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. It's the format show on Fantasy Football Today.

You're playing in different formats. 10-team, 12-team, 14-team, auctions, PPR, half PPR, whatever. We've got strategies for every single format to help you get set for your drafts. We've also got to talk some preseason football. You know, Dave Richard, a lot of games, a lot of preseason games are useless. They don't tell us much. But last night's game actually maybe told us quite a bit. It was one of the more revealing preseason games.

Yep. Absolutely. We saw Tevin Coleman play for the first time with the 49ers. He looked great. We saw the Broncos run game. That didn't look so great. And Emmanuel Sanders, Adam, tell me the truth. Did he really tear his Achilles? Because he's

running around out there like he's 22 years old. It was unbelievable. I think what they did is they took out his Achilles, they put in a new Achilles, and then they took his old Achilles and they put it in Royce Freeman. I think that's what the Broncos did, because Emmanuel Sanders looked outstanding. I think he's going to be their number one receiver

if he's going to play with that kind of speed. He lined up in the slot, he lined up out wide, and Joe Flacco could look for him deep all the time. I think he's going to be the that kind of speed. He lined up in the slot. He lined up out wide. And Joe Flacco could look for him deep all the time. I think he's going to be the number one receiver in Denver. I'm really stunned to say it because usually guys that tear their Achilles, they're never the same. This is one who should pick up right where he left off last year. So, yeah, last year, just how good was Emmanuel Sanders?

On a per-game basis, he was 17th in non-PPR and 15th in PPR. I keep saying this. He had basically the same season as Julian Edelman, very similar. 71 catches, 868 yards, and four touchdowns, plus a rushing touchdown on 99 targets, and that was only in 12 games, which is also what Julian Edelman played. Now, I'm not sure we're going to project Emmanuel Sanders

to be a top 17 wide receiver, but another thing to keep in mind, his last five games were bad. He had only one game with more than 57 yards. That's kind of what you get from Emmanuel Sanders, but you've been able to get him without a top 100 pick. Do you think he should be a top 100 pick at this point? I've got him 96th in PPR,

the very last pick in round eight. Larry Fitzgerald. You'd love to have him in round nine, though. The very last pick in round 8. Larry Fitzgerald. You'd love to have him in round 9, but I think you need a wide receiver. Or Emmanuel Sanders. Fitzgerald or Sanders. I've got Fitzgerald ahead of Emmanuel Sanders for now. Okay. Hey, do you think San Francisco fans are mad at me?

Because you put the kibosh on Jimmy Garoppolo? Oh, yeah, big time, big time. You gave him the bonanza treatment. Ooh. He looked even worse than his numbers. One of six no yards on the interception. That's a perfect way to put it.

I can give him a pass maybe on the interception because there was a defender coming down on him. But there was another pass that should have been intercepted, and it wasn't, and you can't give him a pass on that one. He just doesn't look anything like the guy that we saw at this time last year. He was a breakout candidate last year, and he looked good in the first three games before he tore his ACL.

There's something different going on with Jimmy Garoppolo, and it's certainly going to hurt his chances of being a great fantasy quarterback anytime soon. Should it, or can we just not go? Because look, this is the first time he's played in a game since tearing his ACL. There's obviously rust. I mean, you don't have to draft him.

Let's go back to what we always say about quarterbacks, Adam. It's so deep, why take the risk? There's clearly risk in Jimmy Garoppolo at this point. So I can name 21 other quarterbacks I'm happy to take ahead of Jimmy Garoppolo in a two-quarterback or a super flick. Okay, I'll tell you why. Now, it's a little bit different in a two-quarterback league because you do have to factor in floor a little bit more.

But as we always say, one-quarterback league, you don't really have to factor in downside because little bit more. But as we always say, one quarterback league, you don't really have to factor in downside because you can just get somebody on waivers or draft two guys. So why take a chance on Jimmy Garoppolo? He has averaged 8.5 yards per attempt in nine games. Eight of them starts with San Francisco. That is ridiculously good. He hasn't been a big touchdown guy,

and unfortunately he's been kind of a big interception guy. He has eight interceptions to 12 touchdowns in nine games, eight starts. But Nick Mullins last year, Nick Mullins was seventh in passing yards per game, fifth in passing yards per attempt. We know Shanahan's track record. We've seen what he did with Matt Ryan. There are pretty good weapons on this team. So there's a great reason, I think, to take a chance on Jimmy Garoppolo. It's why I've liked him so much. I think there's immense upside based on the system, based on what we've seen. Look what he did in the five starts at the end of 2017.

He was awesome. He was throwing, gosh, I don't even know. He was throwing for probably close to 300 yards per game. It was crazy. So I'm not eliminating him from my draft board. Okay, but we're going to talk about league format and strategies for it. You tell me the type of league that you're drafting Jimmy Garoppolo in that isn't a two quarterback league. Oh, I'll draft him in any one quarterback league. I just, I won't make him my only quarterback. He'll be one of two guys I pick and I'll happily do it. And I hope his value drops.

Cause I will try to take advantage of that. Again, I can find plenty of other quarterbacks. I'd rather spend that roster spot on than Garoppolo at this point. Sam Darnold. I'll take Sam Darnold out of Jimmy Garoppolo right now, based on what I've seen. Based on what you've seen.

I get that, but I am trying not to be a preseason overreactor. And not saying you are, because sometimes it matters. Sometimes it really matters what we see in the preseason. Six pass attempts for a guy who hasn't played in a year, it doesn't really matter to me. And like I said, I hope it knocks his value down because I will take a chance on Jimmy Garoppolo,

who, as I recall, has an awesome schedule. So that's another reason to like him. But let's talk more about this game. At Tampa Bay in week one. Yeah. At Tampa Bay in week one. At Cincinnati in week two. Home at Pittsburgh in week three.

And then on by in week four. Bold prediction. He will be off your fantasy team by week four. All right. I'm going to be bullish on Jimmy G. I'm going to be bullish. Okay. So there's a lot more to talk about in this game.

We have hopefully some rankings disputes a little bit later. I have an awesome announcement about the telethon and the podcast league and how they are intersecting. Jamie's going to be joining us shortly. Let's do some Hey Real Quick reacting from Monday night's game. Hey Real Quick, Philip Lindsay or Sonny Michel? Hey Real Quick, is Sonny Michel healthy? You have to draft him right now one way or another

taking sony michelle over philip lindsey i was i i'm just i'm not disappointed in philip lindsey i'm disappointed that the broncos seem to be uh focused on giving him no more than three snaps consecutively and then moving them out for somebody else. And then the, somebody else's Royce Freeman, we'll get to him. And then on third downs, it was usually Devante Booker playing. And that could be theoretic by the time we get to week four,

the regular season, this is potentially a three headed monster running back. And I don't know if I feel really good about it. Hey, real quick, Matt Brita or Royce Freeman. I'm taking Brita. Ask me Dukeita or royce freeman uh i'm taking brita ask me duke johnson or royce freeman well i don't see why they should have been so far apart in adp you know like they're both number two guys that are going to get work and brita's just probably better than freeman

well maybe but i i think that people were buying back into royce freeman based on what they heard uh at a training camp. And this goes back to the Broncos' running back philosophy. They want to use multiple guys, but I don't know how much longer they can stand by Freeman if this is how he's going to play. Matt Breida was so good last night that he's better than Royce Freeman? I think so. I don't want either of these guys. These are both well into the double-digit round.

Matt Breida didn't do anything last night. I don't have any faith in Royce Freeman. Yeah, I'll take Royce Freeman over Matt. Unless Kevin Coleman. I understand having him over Coleman, having him over Breida, but aren't they similar? No, Breida's got speed.

I think that Breida's going to need an injury to get more touches than Royce Freeman. Okay. Freeman has a much higher ceiling. Hi, Jamie. Hey. Welcome to the show. All right, what were your big takeaways?

We already talked about Garoppolo. What were your big takeaways from this game? Want to talk about the receivers in this game? We talked about Sanders. How about the 49ers wide receivers? Garoppolo's six passes. Two of them went to Goodwin, one to Pettis,

one to Jordan Matthews, one to tight end Caden Smith, and one to Matt Breida. Anything to take away there? I think Goodwin will end up being their best guy. Sleeper. Yeah, I mean, he's a steal.

He's just a free space on drafts right now. Are you also making Emmanuel Sanders your number one Denver wide receiver? Oh, you have to. Yeah. I mean, what he showed last night was amazing. Yeah, it's pretty good.

Hey, real quick. It's exciting. I'm excited to see him back at this level. Can you believe it? Can you believe that a guy who tore his Achilles actually is playing like that? It's fantastic. Hey, real quick. Kyler Murray or Jimmy Garoppolo? Murray. Murray, but neither if you can.

Come on, guys. Be nice to Jimmy Garoppolo. Are we not overreacting on bad preseason performances with both these guys? I was drafting Kyler Murray way ahead of Jimmy Garoppolo before Jimmy Garoppolo played in the preseason. There's so much more upside with Kyler Murray. So much more? I don't know.

There's way more. And I think that Kyler Murray is still, I think he's a value pick right now because everybody's judging him based on one quarter of a preseason game that his offensive line wasn't prepared for. This is going to be a completely different offense when we see it in week one. I think the offensive line is going to get a completely different offense when we see it in week one. I think the offensive line is going to get a little bit better than what we saw. I don't think it's going to turn into the Pittsburgh Steelers or anything like that. But I think Kyler Murray is going to be just fine. I don't think there's less risk in taking him now because he's falling in drafts. I love it.

I'm taking him. It's exactly what I just said about Jimmy Garoppolo. Almost everything you said is exactly what I just said about Jimmy Garoppolo. They are both very good number two quarterbacks to take chances on. Yeah, I think that basically sums it up.

But you don't have to draft them as starters. I still have Kyler in my top. Oh, you can. You don't have to, though. And I think you're going to find that most drafts are not going to have them

as starters. Our ADP so far has Tom Brady moving ahead of both of them, which I think is the right thing to do. That's interesting. I was happy to draft Kyler round eight, round nine. And I'll admit I have moved him down to the point where I'll take him in round 10,

but I'm still taking him. I'll still take him ahead of Brady for now. So real quick, I want to let everybody know today's sponsors are FanDuel. FanDuel.com slash FFT. Get a $5 bonus on your first deposit. Yeah, Jimmy Garoppolo, week one. Nobody's going to want him. NFL Game Pass is our other sponsor.

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Still the same, round five. Man, it was really a frustrating way that they used them. As Dave said on Twitter, let them get into a rhythm. Not keep subbing them in and out. It's the preseason. Yeah, I know. Is that a tendency that changes in the regular season? I think it changes because Royce Freeman's just going to

play his way out of the rotation. And Phillip Lindsay will handle first and second down and it'll be Riddick or Booker on third. That's what I'm hoping for when I draft Phillip Lindsay. He's a great zero RB type of running back. I don't know if he's a good number two target anymore. Let's take a quick break on fantasy football today. When we

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He's going to be on tomorrow's show. But we will have that bonus episode, the Pick 6 Takeover, with Will, one of the pick six guys, I think Sean and Jamie, that one's going to air. It's going to be in our FFT feed tonight. I'm going to publish it. So you'll have two episodes today and then we'll have one tomorrow as well, but you'll get six episodes this week. You'll get some different perspective from the pick six guys. It's going to be awesome. And I'm going to be on the pick six podcast this week. Jamie and Dave are on there a lot. So check out pick six. It's one of the best Pick 6 podcast this week. Jamie and Dave are on there a lot, so check out Pick 6. It's one of the best football podcasts around for sure.

News and notes, guys. Antonio Brown is back with Oakland, but he has filed a grievance over his helmet. Jamie, has anything changed since you basically said you wanted nothing to do with him yesterday? Oh, no. I want nothing to do with him. Okay. Feet to the fire. I want something to do with him, but it's got to be late round three. Late round three for Dave.

I'm just not going to get him in late round three. He won't be. He might. Well, then I'll take him. Good. All right. Ezekiel Elliott did not like Jerry Jones's Zeke who comment. And we don't know that.

His agent said that. They could have been fine with it. What't know that his agent said that they could have been fine with it. What? Why would his agent lie about that? True. Why does agent lie about that? Because it's such a stupid thing because if you watch the show as watch the comment as opposed to just reading

it, it's entirely different. Yeah, it was ingested. It's really a non story. It's just an opportunity for the agent to hype up on the negotiation. Melvin Gordon says he's still waiting for the Chargers to call. So we're much more optimistic about Zeke than Melvin Gordon reporting. Yep. Okay, some more news items. Corey Clement for the Eagles.

He's back. He got some first-team reps. Do you think there's anything to that? Hopefully not, but it's just another reminder of how the Eagles like to use more than one running back, and Miles Sanders has a little bit of an uphill battle to try and earn that every down roll with them. Not saying he can't do it, but it's going to be a little tough for him. He won't do it right away. Marquise Brown practiced for the first time. Meanwhile, Myles Boykin did not practice.

What would it take for you to draft Marquise Brown? I drafted both Brown and Boykin with two of my last three picks in the Kings Classic draft that I did this past weekend. It was 14 teams. It was rounds 14 and 15. So things were really thin. I'm hoping one of them pops. It's a little bit of that friendship strategy that you talk about, Adam.

And I think that that's okay to do with those two guys. But Harbaugh said that Brown's got a long way to go. We don't know too many details on the Boykin injury. I'm sure that'll come out soon. Obviously, these are not guys that you're targeting on draft day, unless it's just way late in a, say, 14-team

team. Here's a hot take for you. Willie Sneed and Chris Moore will be better than Marquise Brown and Nick Boyle. And Miles Boykin. And Nick Boyle. Throw him in there, too. And if that's the case, there will be zero interesting pass catchers on the Ravens this year for fantasy.

Interesting, yes. Productive? Maybe not. I mean, you were Mr. Willie Sneed last year, were you not? Yeah, you know, in our 14-team podcast league, he was basically like a guaranteed 5 for 50 every week. And that was useful. That was useful. Doesn't kill you.

Yeah. All right, what else we got? Ronald Jones and Mike Evans are day-to-day. Deontay Foreman's on IR with a torn biceps. I don't like what Bruce Arian said about Mike Evans. What did he say? He said he doesn't know when he'll be back.

I don't like that either. Just another wide receiver that we were taking in the top two rounds who has a question mark. Julian Edelman's back. Drew Loc lock and noah fan have minor injuries how about this one guys dj charke do do do do do espn's mike doroco doroco i don't know he said that charke has been the most impressive receiver for jacksonville i'll tell you what pete's Prisco's drink has been talking about him for since last season. You know, he kept telling me that he's he's going to be the one you want to keep an eye on.

And, you know, if he can expand his route tree, it's going to be interesting to see how he connects with Nick Foles because the new quarterback, you know, so he comes in with no, you know. Past history or favoritism, you know, to any guy. The thought should still be D.D. Westbrook because of where he lines up. But now that Marquise Lee is back and off the pup list, we'll see if, you know, it changes things for how they line up different guys. And I think, you know, if you're looking at

just a late-round flyer, D.J. Tark, in a 14-team league, like you said, Adam, in regard to Willie Sneed, not a bad guy to take a look at. There's a lot of potential for him because he's very tall and very fast. And when you watch him line up against a 5'10 corner, you think, how in the world does he not get every single target?

It's not quite Calvin Johnson versus somebody, but he's a big, long dude with deep speed. He's just got to be able to put it all together and be more aggressive going for the ball when it's in the air. And if he can do that, then yeah, he could be really something special. All right, that's DJ Chark. So asking a follow-up on this, would you rather have Emmanuel

Sanders or D.D. Westbrook? Still D.D. for me. It's still D.D. It's Sanders for me. I've been on Team Sanders for a while. You're taking Sanders over Westbrook now? Absolutely. Well, I'm not a Westbrook guy.

I just... I feel like it's a little bit of a hopeful assumption that Westbrook is going to be so good. He really doesn't have that much of a track record to fall back on. I don't know why we're assuming this on him. I think we're banking on him getting good volume, and I think that that creates kind of a good floor for him. I don't see him getting to 1,000 yards. I don't see him getting nine touchdowns

or anything like that. But I don't see Emmanuel Sanders getting there either. If you're talking value, the value is Sanders. Yeah. If you're going to say pass on Westbrook to get Sanders, then I'm all in.

But if you're saying, who has the chance for a better season, I'll still take Westbrook. Okay. Darius Geis is expected to play on Thursday. It'll be nice to see him. Derek Henry returned to practice. And both the NFL and the Players Association

are open to expanding the playoff field from 12 teams to 14 teams. I say it's perfect at 12. Leave it at 12, people. I agree. Yeah. All right, good. Thank you.

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how about auctioning off a spot in the podcast league for St. Jude's to support the kids? I would bid and I bet others would as well. Done. Done. It's actually already in motion because of this email. Anonymous, thank you.

Going to have a link for you tomorrow most likely, but we're going to do it on eBay. And you can follow the at FFToday Twitter account for more information. And yes, I know it's a little, I don't want to make people pay to get in the podcast league, but I will certainly do it for this cause. So we'll benefit St. Jude's and the highest bidder gets in the podcast league. And I'll give you more information on Twitter, the Facebook group and on this show. So thank you for a great idea and really excited for it. We're doing something else as well, just in regard to not the podcast league, but for fantasy advice. So what we're going to do on the telethon is if you tweet us a picture of your donation,

it has to be obviously an authentic donation to St. Jude. We're going to answer every Twitter question, obviously within reason. And anyone that does not get their question answered on the show, because we're going to be on for six hours, so we hope to answer all of the people that send us in their questions. Dave is going to personally call them and answer their questions. Awesome. Great. No, but I'm going to personally answer all of their questions if they don't get answered

on the air. So anybody that shows us, I'll tweet out whatever the hashtag we're going to use for this, but again, it has to be that you show us your donation. So it could be a dollar, it could be hopefully more than that, but we're going to make it a point that anybody that donates and shows us that they donated, you're going to 100%

have your question answered. Hopefully again by Thursday, if not, by the end of the week for sure. Great. That's great stuff, and we're looking forward to it Thursday, noon to 6 the end of the week for sure. Great. That's great stuff. And we're looking forward to it Thursday, noon to six Eastern,

CBSSports.com. You can watch on HQ. Just get the CBS Sports app on any of your connected devices. And Jamie mentioned he's going to answer a lot of tweets. That's what we're going to do right now. After we do this, we'll get into the format questions and some position preview recaps

just to sort of reset everything we've talked about over the last couple of weeks. But let's do some rapid fire tweets here from Corey, Dalvin Cook or Joe Mixon in non PPR. Mixon. Mixon. That's close. From Audrey, Leshawn McCoy. I'm thinking like the round 9-10 type of range. I like the long-term appeal of Singletary more, so I'm taking Singletary ahead of LaShawn McCoy, but also in that same 9-10 range.

I think the round is appropriate. Anything within pick 90 to 100. That's about the earliest I would go with him. Singletary is probably two or three rounds later. Do you think Singletary is their passing downs guy? No. I'm not sure. I don't know if I'm ready to anoint him that.

Okay. Next question is from Brandon. Honestly, I put this in here because we got like five variations of the same question. How do you feel about wide receiver and running back on the same team? Like A.B. and Jacobs, Montgomery, or Cohen and Robinson, etc., whatever.

Well, you and I did that in the two quarterback league. You took the two Browns guys, I took the two Steelers guys. Right. Those are good offenses to do that with. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, if you get two superstars on the same team, then it's easy to get away with. You know, I don't know how many people, like, are targeting DeAndre Hopkins and Lamar Miller.

Right. Derek Henry and Corey Davis. Well, that would be the opposite of what you want to do. Exactly. If it works out, you know, I think it could be great. You know, it's not, it's not it's gonna you're gonna have some weeks where there's some struggles but in the case of what Adam did and I think in the case of what I do

with the Steelers those are two very good tandems at those respective positions you gotta target good offenses from Adam Montgomery or Cohen in PPR Montgomery which Montgomery David why did I answer that or Cohen in PPR? Montgomery. Which Montgomery? David. Why did I answer that?

I'll still take Montgomery. Okay. Jai Henry says, fourth pick in a non-PPR league. Talk me out of David Johnson over Ezekiel Elliott. Oh, if you're scared of Ezekiel Elliott holding out,

you can't pick him. I'm not. I actually passed on Zeke in a, in a draft that we did yesterday because it was PPR. It was super flex and you had to start three wide receiver. So I went with the Andre Hopkins over Zeke, but in a league like the one you're talking about, I'm still taking Zeke.

I just, it just means you have to draft a couple extra running back along the way. It's not that big of a deal. If you can guarantee me Elliott and Pollard, I will take that over David Johnson 10 out of 10. Who's your number five running back now? Nick Chubb, and it has been for a while. James Conner.

Okay, yeah, so that's why you wouldn't take David Johnson because he's not even our next best running back. From the great John Dean, do not draft list Antonio Brown, Melvin Gordon, and any Washington Redskin? I'm not drafting Antonio Brown at the ADP that he's at. And I'll take Jordan Reed with a late pick based on how he's looked in training camp and the fact that this team's going to play from behind

pretty much every single game that they're in. I'll start the season with Jordan Reed as my tight end. There's no such thing as a do not draft list. There's a thing as a void ADP. There's a thing as bus. When you say do not draft, it means that you're not going to take him at any point in the draft. Obviously you're going to take Jordan Reed.

You're going to take Adrian Peterson at the right spot. You're going to take Darius Geist at the right spot. You're going to take Antonio Brown at the right spot. So can't say do not draft. Don't say it. Okay, from Ben, does Joe Mixon have the highest floor

of any running back outside of the top three? No. No. You know, it's a good point. He's going to get a lot of touches.

He's fairly safe. Somebody on Twitter mentioned terrible offensive line could derail Joe Mixon. Who has the highest floor? Okay, let's say the Big Four. Who has the highest floor? Okay, let's say the Big Four. Who has the highest floor outside the Big Four?

Outside of the Big Four? Yeah. The Big Four? The highest floor? Big floor. I'm still going to say James Conner. Yeah, I'll take Chubb. Okay.

From Steven, can Godwin beat out Evans to be the number one wide receiver in Tampa Bay? May happen by default, no. No. If Evans still gets as many or more targets than Godwin, I like having a chance to lead that team in yards and touchdowns. Pretty handily. From Russ, who's your favorite player to roster this season that most other people would say, quote, who is that?

Oh, I'm feeling that way about Darren Waller. I'm feeling that way about TJ Hawkinson as far as late round tight end. Is there a running back out there that people don't know about? Everybody knows who everybody is now. So I think that that's about as good of an answer as I can give.

I take Trey Quinn a lot. I think he's going to end up being the best Washington receiver this year. I think Preston Williams is worth a look for the Dolphins. Okay, from Timmy. They've got to cut two guys, though, for that to happen. They've got to cut Devontae Parker and get rid of Alan Hearns.

Yeah, he's a talented guy who didn't get drafted because of off-field issues, so he could be their best receiver. Who would you prefer running back? Why Preston Williams over Jacoby Myers? No, he's another good... Because of Josh Gordon, I guess.

But I don't know who I would take. But yeah, they're both late-round flyers. From Timmy, Miles Sanders or Jordan Howard? Sanders. Sanders. Sanders. From Anthony, Devin Singletary or Darwin Thompson? Thompson.

Yeah. From Evan, who's more likely to finish top three at his position, Juju or James Conner? Juju. I'll say Conner, non-PPR, Juju, and full PPR. From Incognito Bears, why isn't Tevin Coleman rising the way that some other running backs are, like Carrion, Carson, and Freeman?

Go back and watch last night. What do you mean? I thought he looked great last night. I thought Tevin Coleman looked good. Well, I think Garoppolo looked terrible. I think Tevin Coleman looked good. I just don't know if he's going to get

the type of work that those other running backs are going to get. He's been a guy that was going in round six that we've been telling you that should be going in round four.

But I don't see him as a round three guy anytime soon. I don't think any of us do. No, I don't know about that. The way Heath was talking about him yesterday, Heath had him in his top four.

Right. But he had him in his top four in that running back group, and those guys go in rounds three and four. His ADP right now is 60.25. So the guys that he's behind that he should be going ahead of, in my opinion, Phillip Lindsey, Tony Michel, Derek Henry,

David Montgomery, and then it comes to, you know, you can debate Mark Ingram, you can debate Chris Carson, you can debate Josh Jacobs. I mean, they're all fine. Melvin Gordon's a different category. But I think, you you know that's kind of where the cutoff is for me is is where it gets to ingram like i take him over montgomery and that's the end of it montgomery's adp is 49.79 so he's just outside of the round four range you're talking the end of round four and i think that's where coleman comes into play yeah i've got montgomery a little bit ahead of tevin coleman. I go back and forth between those two.

I just think Montgomery is going to end up getting more touchdowns. Yeah, I think Coleman is going to get much more touches. That's the problem. I do worry a little bit about Coleman's catches. I don't know what the situation is going to be there. Jimmy Garoppolo has not been a guy who has thrown to his running backs. And they have several of them. And they still have Kyle Juszczykk who Jimmy Garoppolo has thrown to.

So I don't know what he will be in the passing game. But I agree with the sentiment that Coleman should be a riser, especially with the McKinnon injury. And I still have faith in the Niners offense. I don't really care about last night, but I understand. Oh, I'm just, I was just joking. I mean, look, Kevin Coleman's got a great opportunity,

especially if there's one less mouth to feed there. If Jeremy Cannon doesn't show up anytime soon, unless they go with Raheem Mostert who look really good, like the Broncos should trade for Raheem Mostert. Yeah, you know, Mostert actually looked good last year, too, in limited action.

Yeah, he did. Let's go real quick. Get rid of Freeman and go with Mostert and finish up here from Jacob. Best rookie wide receiver for redraft? Oh, I don't know if there's a great answer for this one because there's knocks on almost all of them. Degenerative knee Metcalf. That's what we're calling him now. That's my favorite.

I'll still take Debo. I think I've got Harry ranked the highest of all the rookie receivers this year, and it's well into round 11-12. Okay. Diggs or Thielen? Half PPR.

Thielen. You have to go with Thielen. If we get 16 games of Antonio Brown, what number wide receiver will he be? Eight. Sure. Which ranking should I use in half PPR? PPR.

And finally from Pantera Bread, which is better than Panera Bread, what is one stat or theory or principle that each podcast member admittedly applies too much value a stat or a theory or a principle that you give too much value to i will say that uh the the fear that i have of going zero rb i've never really done it and i definitely want to do it this year i apply too much value to like rounds three, four running backs. So I might stray from that.

I'm going to do like 10 leagues this year. I might stray from that in a couple and see how it turns out. I'll always try and play it safe when it comes to running backs who have a track record of significant injuries and try and weave my way around them and go with other players. Veer toward younger running back. Okay. All right. Good stuff, guys.

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it's a step to keep your team and community safe. Visit ontarioonecall.ca and avoid unnecessary damages to get the job done right. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. I like to look back. I like to sum it up. You know, not everybody has time to listen to every episode. So you're about to do a draft, and you're like, hey, I didn't have time to listen to the quarterback preview or the running back or the wide receiver or the tight end.

So what have you been doing, first of all? But maybe you forgot a lot of stuff. So let's just talk about it, guys. Give me your overall summation of the quarterback position and how you're approaching it on draft day. So the first thing you've got to do is think about how much you believe in Patrick Mahomes having another 5,000-yard 50-touchdown season. If you think he can do it again, you're going to draft him early.

If not, you're going to look for a great value at quarterback because there are so many good ones that you can literally wait until round 7-plus, 9- nine plus and still come away with a quarterback that you're very happy to start right away oh you're done um who's the guy you find yourself drafting a lot jamis is like free yep and i'm getting i'm getting matt r a bunch. I still think he's going to have another huge year, and I'm getting him below what his ADP is, so very happy with that.

The quarterbacks going in the first five rounds are Mahomes, Rogers, Watson, Mayfield, and Ryan, and so those are the guys, if you want to take somebody early, that's what you're looking at, and these are the guys you can get after that. Now, Andrew Luck has obviously fallen a lot, understandably why.

I think he'll find his way creeping back up if we get past this week. And the Colts say he's fine for week one. You'll see his ADP probably skyrocket as well as his rankings. But Adam, I know you take a lot of Jared Goff. Cam Newton is, you know, round seven. And this is, you know, again, factoring in how we draft comparatively to how the public drafts. Carson Wentz is later than those guys. Roethlisberger and Brady, you can argue, do they deserve to be in the top 12?

That's for a different conversation. But you're getting Winston late. You're getting Rivers late. You're getting Lamar Jackson, which is one of my favorite steals at the quarterback position and who will be a top 10 quarterback if he plays 16 games. He's free. Dak Prescott, Jimmy Garoppolo still, I think, is worth if you want to take a flyer on.

But there's just so many guys that you can get in later picks, depending, again, how your draft goes. If you want to say quarterbacks go early, so it's after round five. If you say quarterbacks tend to go late, it's potentially double-digit rounds. There's just so many ways to draft this position that you don't have to fall in love with one of the early picks because you don't need to.

Yep. There are more than 20 good starting quarterbacks, and keep that in mind for 2QB or super flex leagues. And I cannot see Cam Newton not setting a career high in passing yards. His career high came in his rookie year, 4,051 yards. I think he surpasses that, and I'm excited to draft him and golf, as Jamie mentioned. Okay, how about running back, Jamie?

I'm just, we're quarterbacks. We're going to break down our super flex draft that we did yesterday on CBS Sports HQ. You're going to come on, Adam, and grade our teams and yours as well. I took Cam Newton and Andrew Luck in rounds six and seven. Yeah, terrific. I mean, it's just easy in rounds six and seven. Yeah. Terrific. I mean, it's just easy. Free.

Running backs. How would you sum up running back, Jamie? I think if you're picking the first four spots, it's easy to take one of those guys and still take Ezekiel Elliott as of August 20th in the top four spots. Then it just becomes what your draft slot is and how much you're in love with any of those other guys that are first round caliber. And that includes, as you see, based on ADP, James Conner, Le'Veon Bell, Nick Chubb, and David Johnson, and Joe Mixon as well. I think those are all first round caliber running backs. The guys that are after them are, I think, going to be the swing type of guys that could really make, be difference makers in your leagues. Todd Gurley, Dalvin Cook, Kerryon Johnson, Leonard Fournette.

And then those round three and four guys, I think if you do go receiver-receiver with your first two picks, you're still going to be very happy with the group that's there. Devontae Freeman, Marlon Mack, Josh Jacobs, Chris Carson. They're all very good

and have the chance to be top 10 caliber running backs. It's the next group, I think that's very intriguing and seeing how they're going to all perform. Obviously, there's a wild card of Melvin Gordon, but it's the David Montgomery I think that's very intriguing and seeing how they're going to all perform obviously there's a wild card of Melvin Gordon but it's the David Montgomery Mark Ingram Sony Michelle depending on format Lindsay depending on format again I think Coleman's probably ahead of that group those are going to be the ones I think that are that are worth

your your interest as a third running back in those rounds five through seven that could really swing your roster in an upswing if they hit, as I expect that they will. And it's not a bad year for 0RB, right? I mean, there's some mid to late round value that we really like. The problem with 0RB right now, it's the receivers that you're having to take in that round two, three range if you don't love them.

So it's taking one of those guys early, which the top seven are still safe right now. Mike Evans, I think, is in the conversation because of what he should be able to do. But if he's hurt, that's going to sort of scare people off a little bit from taking him in the second round when you may want to take a flyer on still Gurley, still Fournette, carry on Dalvin Cook, all those guys. And then it becomes, do you love the round three receivers,

which as we are starting to see, you know, maybe Adam Thielen is pulling away from the pack, but that's the Antonio Brown, Enan Allen, T.Y. Hilton, Amari Cooper. You know, do you want to take the Rams guys in the third round, you know, especially in non-PPR? So it's very interesting to see how that's going to impact going 0RB, unless, of course, you just take a tight end or a quarterback instead of taking a second receiver.

Yeah, right. If you have a late pick, and this relates to both running back and wide receiver, if you have a late pick, and you're going Juju and Michael Thomas with your first two picks, and then George Kittle in round three, and then maybe Brandon Cooks is there in round four,

Robert Woods, or if you reach for Chris Godwin, I don't know if that's a huge reach. You know, that's fine. And then hopefully at the end of round five, you know, which based on ADP, it's possible, Tevin Coleman could be sitting there as a top 60 pick, but, you know, but somewhere between 55 and 60. Lamar Miller, Miles Sanders, Darwin Thompson,

you know, take some flyers on some guys and you can make it work. Dave, wide receiver then, let's transition to that. Your thoughts on wide receiver. Yeah, to me, it goes hand in hand with running back. And I think Jamie laid it out pretty perfectly. I've never been more excited to do zero RB in my life than I am now.

And getting the, that late first round pick and going receiver receiver and getting two of those top seven receivers, I think it could end up being a huge advantage to fantasy rosters this year. And it's, it's really just based on all the guys that we've talked about who you, who you can't look at and say, that's a reliable stud.

That's somebody who's going to be huge for me week in and week out. And it also has to do with the running backs that are available rounds three through six. I think there's enough there where they're, they're not going to be like Saquon, but a thousand to 1200 total yards, seven touchdowns. I think a lot of those guys are good candidates for it.

So I'm going to reference this draft. I did again last again, last Saturday. 14 teams. I started without getting a running back until round five. I had DeAndre Hopkins, Stephon Diggs, George Kittle, and Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes in round four. And I'm just so thrilled to have that group as a base for my team, knowing that I've got just a know a gallery of good solid to good

running backs to pick from each week and in my lineup but i've got the wide receiver position covered because i just don't think there are a lot of receivers that have 1200 yard a touchdown potential compared to running back that do yeah there's a drop off at receiver where is it for you guys like after cup ridley josh gordon well there there's a drop after mike evans okay sorry let me there's a point in receiver once you start to get to the robbie anderson you know originally dante pettis sure now will i think it's not as it's not as exciting i think you could call that drop-off maybe at A.J. Green. That might be the point where you'll say, okay, none of these other receivers wet my whistle,

and I know that when A.J. Green comes back, he's going to give me production like a number one receiver. Yeah, I'll take it much further than that. I think there's a lot more guys to like after that group. But how many of those guys have the big potential that we're talking about? If there's big potential, they're going to be drafted higher.

You have to keep things in perspective. It's what you're expecting to get from them. Now, is everybody going to be a top 10 receiver if you're drafting them in round 7 or round 8? Absolutely not. But if you're taking them to be starters for you on a 4-5 week stretch of the season, or maybe more if you hit on the right guy, I think that's the type of group you're looking them to be starters for you on a, a four to five week stretch of the season, or maybe more,

if you hit on the right guy, I think that's the type of group you're looking at. Like I still love taking Sterling Shepard. I'm going to be thrilled if I end up with in the right spot, guys like Alshon, Jeffrey now and Robinson. I mean, Sammy Watkins,

if he plays 16 games, big F, but if he does, you're going to be getting great production. Corey Davis, big F, but it happens. You like to Sean Jackson.

He flex Tyra Williams. They're going to be starters for you at some point during the season. But that, I think, is the area where you start to get a little bit concerned. If you tell me I'm getting Robbie Anderson and Will Fuller, and obviously you know how I feel about Curtis Samuel,

Mike Williams is still going to put up some decent numbers. I mean, those are very good receivers. They are. But they don't have the upside of Miles Sanders. Oh, I don't know if I agree with that. I think they absolutely do.

I think in PPR, they do. To get a starting running back, though. Yeah, I... Okay, well, that's... Okay, well, that's, I think, the decision you have to make of when is the drop-off, and I guess it's a little bit later for Jamie. How many of the receivers that you named, Jamie, are you comfortable having in your starting lineup?

All of them. Okay. So, like, that's the case for going heavy on running back is that if you're comfortable with Alan Robinson, Alshon, Jeffrey, Robbie Anderson, did you say Curtis Samuel? Cause I know that I, I drafted him as a starter in several. Okay. So if you're cool with those receivers, and this is a question that I think people who are going to draft have to ask themselves before they go into the draft. If you like those guys and you see the with those receivers, and this is a question that I think people who are going to draft have to ask themselves before they go into the draft. If you like those guys and you see the upside in them, then yeah, you're going to go heavy at other positions.

Sure. Okay. Let's talk, uh, let's talk tight end. And, uh, what were your thoughts on tight end?

Dave, you're very aggressive. You know me. Yeah. I'm, I'm trying to get, I'm basically trying to get Kelsey or Kittle, um,

in every single draft I'm in. I don't'm basically trying to get Kelsey or Kittle, um, in every single draft I'm in. I don't want to mess around with the position. I might speculate on one of the guys that I mentioned earlier as a, as a bench stash, but I really want to try and get one of those two or, and arts is in that mix as well. Just so I don't have to stream tight ends, get eight or nine points out of my tight end and say, wow, great week. I want a guy

that's going to produce like a top 15 receiver. So every chance I get at one of those top three tight ends, I'm taking. I pass on the top three guys because there's going to be regression for all three of them to what level we'll find out, but it's going to be some numbers that get cut back. I mean, they were just historical last year and it's not going to be replicated. So I'd rather wait based on the value and get one of ingram howard or henry if i can um that's obviously not always realistic if i miss on those three guys then i'm looking for delaney walker jordan reed or vance mcdonald because i think those are the next three guys that have the chance to pop this year cool all right let's answer

some format questions now tell me how things change in each format i got a lot of formats here so uh we'll try to keep it moving, I guess. Non-PPR, let's just start with regular old standard scoring, non-PPR. People play that? I think people play it. Yeah, they do. Yeah, I think receiver loses

value significantly because the catches just don't count. But it doesn't mean you have to avoid them. I'm still going to adhere to the same strategy that I'm going to do in PPR for the most part. I'm looking for a tight end early and collect a bunch of running backs later on, no matter whether I take zero RB or not.

Okay. Running backs are just mega valuable. Quarterbacks, are they more valuable in non-PPR compared to full PPR? A little bit. Because you look at some of these pass-catching running backs. If you're debating between Duke Johnson and your starting quarterback, it might be better off taking Duke Johnson. Or in non-PPR. Especially if you're just waiting on a quarterback.

At that point, it's not going to matter. I gave these stats weeks ago're in non-PPR. Especially if you're just waiting on a quarterback. At that point, it's not going to matter. I gave these stats weeks ago, so I doubt anyone remembers. But I looked at the top 60 flex players, the top 60 running back wide receivers tight ends in non-, half-, and full-PPR over the last two seasons. Top 60 flex players in non-PPR. In 2017, running backs and wide receivers were tied. And in 2018, running backs outnumber receivers were tied. And in 2018,

running backs outnumbered wide receivers by three in the top 60. We move over to half PPR. Over the last two years, there were seven more wide receivers than running backs in the top 60 in 2017 and five more in 2018. And then in full PPR, it's a huge difference. Over the last two years, there were nine more wide receivers than running backs in the top 60. So you're looking at two running backs, two wide receivers, and a flex. In a full PPR league, it's probably going to... It doesn't have to be, but it's more likely to be a wide receiver there because they're just better, obviously, than running backs. But running backs are starting to catch more passes, so you have to keep that in mind. We like 50 catch running backs. There were 16 of them last year. There were 14 of them in 2017. And the last thing

on this, no matter what the format is, if you get those mega valuable running backs, they are better than the wide receivers, which is why we're always fishing for those elite running backs. All right, half PPR. I don't know if we talk about it enough. How do you make the decision between a guy like Derrick Henry or Sonny Michelle? We like better. Sonny Michelle versus James White in all of the formats, you know, and in half PPR, where would you come out on that? I'm still going to value the pass catching running backs a little bit more because

they're getting points it'll add up over the balance of the season that the other running backs just aren't going to get so you know in the case of James White versus Sonny Michelle we're talking about an extra 40 to 50 points probably for I don't know if it's that many for James White but let's call it 30. And I think that that could come out helping him to a degree. And Sonny Michel, to make that up, he'd have to score five extra touchdowns.

He'd have to stay healthy like James White does. I don't know if I can really buy into that. So leaning toward James White makes some sense where we're at now. All right. How do you guys change your strategy at all in half PPR? I value the pass catchers just like I would in full PPR. It just comes down to the player and the tiebreaker.

The scenario you brought up of those two guys, the Patriots guys, it's a lot different conversation in that format than it is in full PPR. Because, I mean, look, while James White will benefit with the added bonus for the catches that he'll get compared to Michelle, the touchdowns make up the difference there. So the gap closes for me a lot more. I would lean a little bit more towards Sonny Michelle in that format than I would towards James White.

All right, so how about full PPR, guys? And how does your strategy change when we start talking about full PPR leagues? So in this format, I'm far more excited to go zero RB. I know there's a bunch of running backs that catch 40, 50 passes per year, but the wide receivers are out there that can catch 70-plus passes per year.

And their value comes a lot closer to the top running back than fantasy so i'm i'm happy to kind of give up on a lot of those round two type of running backs round three types of running back to hog up all those wide receivers and i kind of can't believe that i'm coming out this way but this is this is how the game has changed and how receivers have kind of developed over the past two seasons in the NFL. Jamie, your thoughts on full PPR? You see that and you're, oh, we're doing a draft today. What's the scoring format? It's PPR. What goes on in your brain?

I mean, the first thing is depending on where you pick, you know, that's the biggest decision that's going to sway, I think, how first thing is depending on where you pick, you know, that's the biggest decision that's going to sway. I think how you approach the different formats, because it's easier to go receiver receiver with your first couple of picks. And then also to, you know, sort of shy away from certain backs in lieu of other positions. So, you know, I think it's it's the philosophy doesn't really change so much for me because it really comes down to what spot I'm picking in the draft. But, you know, I think you're going to gravitate a little bit more toward the receivers in the first round than you are some of those running backs. The guys like James Conner and David Johnson,

those guys when you can have somebody like Juju or Michael Thomas or, you know, the guys that are guaranteed at least based on track record or what the situation is to be 100 catch guys. Yeah, you could really run the risk of downgrading non-pass catching running backs a little bit too much but having said that like you know derrick henry just it would have to be such incredible value philip lindsey would scare me a little bit he'd have to have a really good year which he definitely still could have but the guys that aren't involved in the passing game, they just have so much bust potential on a week-to-week basis.

So many quiet games when they don't score a touchdown or they get taken out of the game plan. Like I was saying about Marlon Mack. Colts had a bad game and they're behind by 20. Marlon Mack could have a terrible game. That could happen four times throughout the year or something like that. Something to keep in mind if he's taken off the field for Naeem Hines. Two-quarterback league and super flex. Do you have to draft three quarterbacks?

I strongly suggest you do it in a 2QB league. Do you have to do it in a super flex league? You don't have to, but it's in your best interest to do it. I mean, you know, you're just talking about taking another player at a position that you're going to hope to cycle through guys if you need to, and it's never a bad idea to have multiple players at those spots.

So, you know, um, in our two QB league, I only have two guys. I regret it. In our super flexes, I have three guys and I love it.

I don't think you have to do it, but if you do do it, you've got trade capital. So on top of being prepared for the entire season and in case of emergency, you've got backups. Now quarterbacks carry value in these formats and you, you can get something in trade for, forget about, you know, the stud quarterbacks. You can get something in trade for Mitchell Trubisky in a two quarterback league that you wouldn't have been able to get in a one quarterback league. So definitely value in getting three

quarterbacks. I don't always do it, but when I do, I'm, I'm trying to get three of the top, call it 25 quarterback. And when I'm just drafting starters, I'm trying to get three of the top, call it 25 quarterback. And when I'm just drafting starters, I'm trying to get one of the top eight. So Mahomes all the way down to Andrew Luck for me. And then another one from nine through call it 21. So one of the, one of the great quarterbacks, one of the good quarterbacks, and then the third quarterback who doesn't have a bi-week that's shared with one of the other two quarterbacks that I draft. I'll just give you an example. Like in our super flex league, you drafted Jared Goff, Tom Brady, and Matthew Stafford. Me? Yeah. You, Adam, I'm sorry. Yeah. Um, which is, you know, one very good quarterback. I think Brady still

qualifies as a good quarterback. And then Stafford is a little wild card. We'll see how he performs. But it's not a bad trio of guys to have there. Comparatively, somebody like Andrew Ballmer, who's one of our producers and produces the show, Lamar Jackson, Drew Brees, and Marcus Mariota.

Did he need to draft Mariota? Probably not. But can it hurt that if he needs him for a couple weeks, especially if Lamar Jackson fails or Drew Brees has a fall off? Not a bad situation. You know, every team is going to be different. So like Dave has in this league, Matt Ryan and Phillip Rivers, looks like no third quarterback.

But his flex options, if he does need to replace Philip rivers are Royce Freeman, Deshaun Jackson, Justin Jackson, Damien Harris, or Deshaun Hamilton. So are any of those guys going to score like a quarterback on a, on a week where he has to replace one of those guys? Probably not.

So it's in your best interest to have that third quarterback as bad as he may be. Like he has Deshaun Watson, Derek Carr and Andy Dalton. That gives him two options at that super flex spot that he may just decide to rotate through. Full disclosure, I drafted Royce Freeman before Monday night's game. A little embarrassing to have him on my team.

I think you're going to find that we, in two quarterback leagues and super flex leagues, we want other people to sort of reach for quarterback. You should take advantage of the depth of the position and load up. Not to say, like Dave said, he wants one great quarterback, one good quarterback, but don't take like Mahomes and Rodgers. I don't think that's a winning strategy. You should be loading up on... Well, I'll give you a team.

We have about three minutes left, Jamie. I'm sorry, so I need to talk about three receiver leagues. But somebody took Rodgers and Mayfield and still ended up with Jacobs, Elliott, Mike Evans, and very good other pieces. Yeah, it could happen. It could happen, I guess. It's just not something that we typically do.

All right, three receiver leagues. We've been doing so many three receiver league mocks. It's very in vogue right now. I did a Twitter poll. Do you play in a three receiver league? 57% said yes, 43% said no. This does change a lot for me. Three receiver leagues,

I find changes my draft strategy, maybe more than anything other than like non PPR versus PPR, but it does make me really focus on receiver. And I have noticed, gosh, the running back value can be so good in these types of leagues. So look, I'm not saying I'm passing up Nick Chubb in the first round for, like, Michael Thomas because I'd still probably take Chubb.

But, you know, I think in the third and fourth round is where I'm more likely to go receiver. I kind of want to get three top 20 receivers or so if there's also a flex involved, you know, when I might want to start four receivers. So I've been finding myself, guys, really affected by three receivers. It changes my strategy a lot. Agreed.

I mean, you know, it's funny because, like, you know, we don't always talk about, like, what the flex should be, and that's still a starter. It's like you almost wait to fill your flex spot instead of if you want to take three running backs that you really love in a two-receiver league,

take three running backs. If you want to take three receivers in a two-receiver league, play your flex spot, especially in PPR, do that. A starter's a starter receiver league take three running backs if you want to take three receivers in a two receiver league to play your flex spot especially in ppr do that it's a starter to starter so you know if you're talking you know about zero rb and needing to take three receivers with your first three picks to lock up three starters and then just sort of fill figure out the running back position do so sure but if you're in a three-receiver league with a flex, how would you feel if your receivers were like Michael Thomas and then, say, Calvin Ridley and Robbie Anderson? Fine.

That's a group I'm fine with. It's when you replace Michael Thomas with a round nine type of one, with Sammy Watkins. That's when I would get a little skeeved out. Okay. I try to get a little bit better than that, but I'm not saying I'm right. No, and I think you should try and get better than that. You should want to get the best receivers you can

if you're starting three of them plus a flex and a full PPR. Yeah, you're probably starting four because the position dries up, you know? Like, everybody gets drafted. The waiver wire will be okay, but it won't be what it usually is. We have to go. I apologize.

Dave, IDP thoughts real quick. Other than defensive line and linebackers that pick up a lot of tackles, and make sure your league credits tackles for scoring because if they don't, it changes the game completely. You wait on IDP players. And it also depends on how many you start. We're doing an IDP draft

tomorrow. It's like a super IDP draft. A lot of defensive players, and we're going to talk about it. We're going to bring on Chris Harris next week to talk aboutP draft. A lot of defensive players. And we're going to talk about it. We're going to bring on Chris Harris next week to talk about the draft. But, yeah, I mean, a lot of them are interchangeable. But how many you start really does make a difference. So more IDP at a later date. Thanks so much to Dave and Jamie.

If you're wondering, why do we have to go? Why do we have to go? Well, we share a video studio with other shows, other podcasts. Cannell and Bell is coming up right after us, so our video crew needs time to adjust the studio for other shows. I'm not trying to hurry these guys, I promise. I'm not trying

to shortchange you, but I want to make sure we get a good solid hour of content in. I think we did that today. All right. Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen. Tomorrow's going to be a really fun show. Will Brinson's coming on. I'm pretty sure we're going to be doing a full PPR mock draft on the air. Yes, sorry, Dave. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.