Fantasy Football Today - 08/28: Busts, New Strategy, Regulators and More! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: August 28, 2018

We start with busts from Jamey (1:30), Heath (4:00) and Dave (8:00) which includes some big names plus early round picks we find ourselves avoiding (11:15). Why the sudden hesitance with Kareem Hunt? ...... Discussing last night's Podcast League draft (12:40) including what Heath and Adam are arguing over and we've got what seems like a great draft strategy (17:40) for Fantasy owners plus news and notes (24:42) and Part One of Fantasy Regulators (26:24) .... ADP risers (31:00), breaking down the mid-round RBs (35:15) like Rex Burkhead, Kerryon Johnson and Rex Burkhead, TE talk (41:52), auction advice (43:46), Best Ball advice (49:23) and Fantasy Regulators Part Two (52:50)! ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Oh, I'm in a good mood on this Tuesday morning.
Starting point is 00:00:21 You know why I'm in a good mood? I've got that feeling that you get when you drafted an amazing team the night before. I'm feeling good right now, and Heath, you should be too. You know, Jamie, I was telling Dave already, we had the four people draft last night. Adam and I share a team. The first four rounds went better
Starting point is 00:00:39 than any draft I've ever been in. We probably won the league in the first four rounds. Because you made the first four picks. And then it all went downhill. It did not. It did not. In fact, I think we discovered a great strategy for 10-team leagues, Heath. A great strategy.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Yeah, I'm going to bring that up in our strategy for sure. Because that was revolutionary what you tried to do. That's a different thing. The way our team turned out. All right, we'll get into that later. First, we've got to talk about some bad stuff. We've got to talk about some busts. We've got the fantasy regulators coming on later on in the show,
Starting point is 00:01:10 including a really funny twist with Jamie Eisenberg and the fantasy regulators that not even Jamie knows about. Your email is at fantasyfootball at cbsi.com. But let's get started. We've got a lot to get to today. Oh, best ball drafts and auction advice as well. Jamie, twos please uh evan ingram um pre-concussion going too soon way too soon
Starting point is 00:01:34 not a top five tight end yeah we have like ninth yes makes me nervous to have nine and you moved burton you got burton ahead of him you got got Delaney Walker, Kyle Rudolph, right? Yes. Right, and Dave, you were kind of holding out, but now with the concussion, we're getting a little nervous about Evan Ingram. I dropped him because he's suffered his second concussion in a calendar year, which makes me wonder what's going to happen when he gets concussed again.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I still think he's a talent. If he had never gotten concussed, yes, he would have stayed at number four for me i think he can still put up good numbers but i don't want to have to draft a injury risk tight end meaning i would have to carry two tight ends either before he gets hurt again or after he gets hurt so he has slid two what do you have now i believe i have him as my number seven or eight, tight end. All righty. Jamie, one more bust. Let's go with Brandon Cooks. Brandon Cooks. All right. How many miles to feed in that offense?
Starting point is 00:02:36 And not going to get his typical 115, 120 targets. No. Where would you take Brandon Cooks? Around seven or eight. Anybody else think of Brandon Cook as a bust? What I wrote yesterday was that I think probably two of the three Rams receivers are going to be busts. And one of the reasons you see three of them in the top 31 wide receivers by ADP is because nobody really wants to place a bet on who the number one is going to be in terms of targets. It's probably going to be a different guy every week. So, yeah, I'm on board with that.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I'm fine with him at late round five, early round six. That's what his ADP is right now. Well, it depends where you look. On Fantasy Pros, it's 45th. I'm not fine with that. Yeah, okay. So that's kind of close. I think round five is fine for Brandon Cooks.
Starting point is 00:03:20 You know what you're getting with him. Do you? Yeah, inconsistency. One week, he'll give you—week one, he's going to have big numbers. Why would you're getting with him. Do you? Yeah, inconsistency. One week he'll give you... Week one he's going to have big numbers. Because there might not be anybody else that's got the... How can I put this?
Starting point is 00:03:35 When he's hot, he's hot. So when his big games will help you win weeks. Yeah, I mean... Get what I'm saying? He's not going for 100 in touchdown, and that's his ceiling. You know what the floor is going to be. It'll be like 40 yards, and that's going to suck when he gives you that,
Starting point is 00:03:51 and he will give you that. I think he's going to be great in week one, and then you should trade him as soon as he has a big game. All right. Heath, two busts. I'm going to just go way up the draft board. I'm going to say Alvin Kamara. Oh!
Starting point is 00:04:07 His ADP is currently number six overall, and that's on our site, which is a combination of PPR and non-PPR, which means one of two things. He's either going in the 6-7 range in non-PPR, or he's going even higher than that in PPR. Both of those things would be a mistake. I do think when Mark Ingram comes back, the split between these two is very similar to what it was last year.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I don't think there's any chance that he rushes for six yards per carry or scores touchdowns at the same rate he did last year. And if I'm wrong, then he's just the most efficient running back in NFL history. Yeah, my friend drafted Kamara over Le'Veon Bell a few days ago, and I got genuinely mad at him. Like, I was really mad. And I just cursed him out via text message. But he's high on him. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:04:55 On Fantasy Pros, in standard scoring leagues in non-PPR, Alvin Kamara is the number six pick in the draft. It's Gurley, Bell, Zeke, Davidson antonio brown then alvin camara that's in non-ppr um where would you take him heath i in non-ppr i'm not taking him until the second round which again means that i'm not getting him but i would rather have melvin gordon i'd rather have leonard fournette i'd rather have kareem hunt dalvin cook saquon barkley and I'd rather have Kareem Hunt, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, and I'd rather have several receivers. Jamie, you don't share that feeling about Kamara?
Starting point is 00:05:29 In non-PPR? Yeah. Overall, I felt like you were higher on him than Heath. In PPR, I think he's a top five running back. In non-PPR, I think he's closer to ten. Heath, second bust. Let's just stay with the stars.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I'll say Deshaun Watson. ADP on CBS is number 30 overall, which is obviously absurd. Any quarterback at number 30 at all is a bad idea. He's the third quarterback off the board on draft day, and he's going to have to see a pretty significant increase in his passing volume to do that in cbs leagues in a four point per passing touchdown league where instead of interceptions are only negative one points i i could almost see it i don't know that it's the most likely outcome but i could see it in a league where it's six points for passing touchdown and negative two for interceptions i think he's more like the
Starting point is 00:06:20 sixth or seventh quarterback and the floor is lower than that. Dave, you kind of don't mind reaching a little bit for Watson, if I recall? Yeah, but not round three and not round four. It's late round five. Okay. I think, look, any of the quarterbacks are probably going to be bust based on where they're being drafted. Yeah, I think let's focus more on, you know, are they QB2, QB3? Like, some people are taking Watson as the second QB off the board. And Heath says he should be more like 6 or 7 and a 6 point for passing touchdown league.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Dave, Jamie, what do you think for Watson? I think he's a top five quarterback. To me, he's got the most – I don't know. It's not fair. He's got probably the – he's one of the few guys that had a chance to finish as the number one quarterback. Okay. He's the third off the board on CBS. Rodgers, Brady, Walsh.
Starting point is 00:07:12 That's where he should be. Okay. Dave, real quick. On bus? No, no, no. On Watson. He's where for you? I think his upside is number one quarterback in all the land.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I think his potential is huge. He's going to run for touchdowns. He's going to throw a bunch. I think he's very difficult to defend. I think the Texans know that. That's why they changed their offense to be built around him. You can tell me all the concerns you want about the offensive line. He was able to transcend that last year. I think he's going to be...
Starting point is 00:07:38 What's up? Got worse. I don't think the line got worse. I disagree. I think the line got incrementally better. Let me just say, on NFL.com, a writer who wrote a little blurb about their preseason game said they may have the worst offensive line in the NFL. They haven't seen Buffalo. It might be a bottom 10 offensive line, but it's still better than it was last year. All right, all right.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Thank you for your Deshaun Watson take. So Jamie gives us Evan Ingram and Brandon Cooks. Heath gives us Alvin Kamara and Deshaun Watson. And Dave, your busts are? Let's give you a name that you haven't heard yet in the bust conversation. Demarius Thomas, who is going, what is he, like round four at this point? And I think it's too soon. I don't think he's the best wide receiver in Denver anymore.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And the rise of Cortland Sutton, I I think is going to take targets away from him especially, but also a little bit from Emmanuel Sanders. I think I'm drafting Sanders ahead of Demarius Thomas at this point. Thomas is currently going 50th overall right there with Golden Tate. 50? You're getting him at 50? 50. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:43 He's falling. I won't. You're going to have him. I think he's going to be a disappointment. He kind of has – does he have like a black cloud over him? He's just been – he hasn't missed games, but he's been banged up the last couple years. But he changed his diet, figured all that out. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:59 He got a better quarterback. Will that help? Yeah, the diet helps. The quarterback helps. All right. So, Dave, you're not even going to take him at 50 because originally he was like a late round three, early round four pick, around 36 overall.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Now he's at 50. He almost had the profile of a safe number two, high end number two fantasy wide receiver because you'd say, all right, the targets are definitely going to be there. The catches will definitely be there. Should get close to 1,000 yards if not over it. Maybe a bigger bounce back with Case Keenum, because you'd say, all right, the targets are definitely going to be there. The catches will definitely be there. Should get close to 1,000 yards if not over it. Maybe a bigger bounce back with Case Keenum, so 1,100 yards.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And then Cortland Sutton happened, and Sutton has really played better. And the tight ends happened too. Those tight ends have started to get a little bit more work. I should have mentioned that before. I'm nervous about him. I don't think he's quite the playmaker that he used to be. All righty. So Demaryius Thomas is one. Give me one more bust real quick.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I am continuing to be nervous about Jarek McKinnon, whose ADP has fallen a little bit on CBS. I believe he's down to 25th. And I'm not taking him until closer to the end of round three in non-PPR. A little bit different in PPR because I think he'll catch a lot of passes. Are we sure that he can hold up for a full season as the feature back in San Francisco? And if Alvin Morris is looking as effective, I don't want to say great, but effective as he did in that preseason game against Dallas, or not against Dallas, whoever he played,
Starting point is 00:10:21 Indianapolis, and if Matt Breida comes back, do the 49ers have to lean on Jarek McKinnon? Suddenly they've got some options at running back. And I wonder if that's going to make McKinnon more of a 15 touches still, but it could be along the lines of nine carries, six catches. So I still feel good about him in PPR, but in non, I think I'm scared. I don't think he's worth that ADP. Would you take McKinnon or Derrick Henry? Give me Henry.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Everybody answer. I'll take Henry in non-PPR, McKinnon in PPR. Yeah, same. McKinnon or Royce Freeman? Same thing I just said. I'll still go McKinnon. Yeah, Freeman. In PPR, Jamie? No. McKinnon. Yeah, Freeman. In PPR, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:11:07 No. Same as Henry. Right, so it's McKinnon in PPR, Freeman in non-PPR. All right, I was going to ask you, which early round pick are you passing on? Heath already said Alvin Kamara. I guess you're not getting him. I feel like I'm doing a total 180 on Kareem Hunt, and I'm not sure I feel good about it, but I'm not – You only have one answer.
Starting point is 00:11:27 There's only one answer for you for this question. What is it? It's Dalvin Cook. You passed on Dalvin Cook in the second round last night. We had Melvin Gordon on the board. I love Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon is going to be the fate of my team. I have so much Melvin Gordon.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I like Dalvin Cook. Who are you passing on? Who do you have kind of cold feet on? Green Hunt. Green Hunt? I moved him down one spot. I put Fournette ahead of him. But that's as far as he's going to go in non-PPR.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Where does that put him? Seven. Overall or at running back? Yes. Your first seven picks are running backs? Correct. In non-PPR. You don't take Antonio Brown over them?
Starting point is 00:12:07 No. Interesting. All right. Hunt, Hunt, Kamara. I don't take Barkley when I draft with Dave and Jamie. Neither does Heath. I don't believe I have Saquon Barkley on 18. I don't draft Barkley either.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I won't get a chance to draft him because I'm taking him. All right. I take Brown over him. Because I'm taking him. All right. I take Brown over him. Well, there you go. That would be the discrepancy. All right, we've got a lot more to get to, including a lot of regulators, random draft tips, a lot of fun stuff. We're definitely going to talk about the For the People League,
Starting point is 00:12:39 the 10-team drafting in general. And Mission Impossible was accomplished. I got Heath to draft Carson Wentz. Believe it or not. Heath's smiling about it. I didn't actually click the button, so I don't think I drafted him. Your second quarterback? We took a second.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Do you want to get into this now? Sure. Sure. I think I have a great strategy for 10-team leagues because I love the way our team turned out. Adam's strategy for 10-team leagues is draft two quarterbacks in the first 100 picks. Well, that's not true. Well, that's what you wanted to do last night. What pick did we take Carson Wentz with?
Starting point is 00:13:17 That was after you wanted to take Andrew Luck in the 10th round. But anyway, great start to our draft last night. 10th round. We got DeAndre Hopkins, Melvin Gordon, T.Y. Hilton, and Doug Baldwin with our first four picks. Just got it made. In the sixth round, Adam convinced me to take Russell Wilson. I tried to talk him out of it by saying I have the next five quarterbacks separated by four points, but he took that as just a free pass to take whichever quarterback he wanted.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I think it was the seventh round when we auto-picked because we couldn't decide on a player. No, no. We auto-picked on Robert Woods. That was like round nine. Eight or nine, okay. Adam tried to convince me to take Andrew Luck in the tenth round as our second quarterback in a 10 QB league.
Starting point is 00:14:00 How many rounds were there? Fourteen rounds. Fourteen rounds. I thought it was an appropriate place for Andrew Luck to go. So you already had Wentz? We already had Wilson. You already had Wilson. And he wanted to take Luck in the tent and pick 97.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Gotcha. Why? What's your thinking, man? Well, to be honest with you, I am a little hesitant on Russell Wilson because we have Wilson. So why did we take him in the sixth round? Because I'm a little hesitant. That's all because it's a 10-team league and you want to go with upside, and it's four points for passing touchdown. So you want elite players at each position.
Starting point is 00:14:27 He's an elite player at four points for passing touchdown. The reason I'm a little hesitant on Wilson is because I think you have to have, in the back of your mind, some thought about Doug Baldwin's knee. He just missed like a month with the knee injury. He should be fine for week one. But it was kind of a nagging thing with him. So if Baldwin gets hurt, and we have Wilson and Baldwin on that team, we're pretty much
Starting point is 00:14:50 screwed. So I felt like getting a high-end backup quarterback was not a bad idea. The value was there. So then in the 13th round, I did just concede and let him take Carson Wentz as our last player before we took a defense. But this would be my draft strategy in a 10-team league.
Starting point is 00:15:07 There is no reason to take a backup quarterback. On our waiver wire right now, Jameis Winston, Tyrod Taylor, Jared Goff, Derek Carr, Andy Dalton. The only guy that you just said that could even come close. We could stream a number one quarterback just off the waiver wire. The only guy you said that could come close to what Wentz and Wilson could be is Jameis Winston. That's the only one. There is such a drop from Wentz to Goff.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Goff could be through more. Yeah, but as you stand here right now on August 28th and I look at those quarterbacks, I don't see anything close to what Carson Wentz could be. Well, that just depends on which Carson Wentz you're getting. If you're getting the guy from last year, which would be the ceiling, then sure. If you're getting the guy that's coming off a torn ACL that might have his number one receiver, those guys all might be better than him. I'm fine not drafting a backup quarterback,
Starting point is 00:15:52 but I could not pass up on Carson Wentz with our second-to-last pick. I'm with you, Adam. I think that that's great value, and you just have to be honest with yourself about this. Number one, the only way you're going to trade him or Wilson is if both of them are the greatest quarterbacks in the league this year. You've got QB1 and QB2 on your team. It's very hard to trade quarterbacks. That's what I was about to say.
Starting point is 00:16:16 You're not going to get fair value for them. You'll trade them for a number three running back, maybe a number two wide receiver. So if Peter King's report is accurate that Wentz doesn't play for the first three weeks, at what point are you cutting Carson Wentz? I'm not. I don't think they are. I've already put him on the trade block in the league, so we'll see if we get some offers. I mean, that's fine, but let's get something for him that we can use.
Starting point is 00:16:41 The minute you suffer an injury, that's the first guy you're cutting. I don't agree. That's probably true. No, it's going to be the end of our friendship because we're going to argue to the bitter end about that. Who else would it be? Chris Godwin, maybe? Godwin, I don't know if I would
Starting point is 00:16:58 cut. Well, let's see how it plays out. We don't have to make that decision right now. That's something you have to take into consideration when you look at your bench. If you have a problem come week one, who is the first guy you're cutting? It's almost like you drafted too well. We'll worry about that in week one. Well, yeah, it's a 10-team league.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I mean, it's loaded. So here's the strategy I really like. So our first four picks, as he mentioned, Hopkins, Melvin, Gordon. Okay, if Gordon didn't fall, it was a 17 overall. It's not that big of a fall. Was it 17 or 14 overall? It was probably 14, yeah. Yeah, not really a huge fall. So Hopkins, Gordon, T.Y. Hilton, Doug Baldwin, two receiver league with a flex, half PPR. We're thrilled with that start. I really love what we did with those running backs with Burkhead, Jamal Williams, and Marlon Mack with back-to-back-to-back picks, I believe. And I think – I don't want to go zero RB necessarily, but I think if you take one stud RB that you feel really good about and then load up – and I think you can do this in a 12-team league.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Load up on those middle-round picks. And I think those same guys – you want to throw Mark Ingram in there, but it's Ingram, Carlos Hyde, Jamal Williams, Marlon Mack, Rex Burkhead. You could theoretically get three of those five with three consecutive picks in the middle rounds. I personally would feel better if I had one stud running back and then those guys rather than zero RB. But I think that's a really strong strategy, guys. You go running back, receiver, receiver, and then just go crazy. I think you go running back, receiver, receiver, and then just go crazy. I think you go running back, receiver, receiver, receiver,
Starting point is 00:18:27 and then 5, 6, 7, you take running backs. Or tight end or quarterback, depending on how you want to build your team. Instead of a third receiver, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Do you like that? Absolutely. I think you've got to hit on two of those guys.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Probably. Not if you have Melvin Gordon, though. Well, you'd still want to have a third option, I would think. And Ingram certainly applies to that, because once he gets back, I'd throw Kerryon Johnson there, too, probably. Right, right. You know, PPR, you could look at the Duke Johnsons, Chris Thompsons of the world, James Whites.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Those guys are probably a little bit later. But I think, you know, when you're looking at Jamal Williams and Marlon Mack in particular, it sets you up for a couple rounds later to take their quote-unquote backups. You also throw Chris Carson, Peyton Barber in there, too. All right. Well, thank you all for participating in the draft last night.
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Starting point is 00:20:08 We're going to do a listener league. Go to FanDuel.com slash FFT and get a $20 bonus when you make your first deposit on FanDuel. Give me a random draft tip. Random draft tip. Dave. I feel like there's a new dead spot where the tears fall off in drafts and it happens right around round seven in 12 team leagues where the players that are left are not very exciting so plan ahead and maybe even think about taking guys that you really like that
Starting point is 00:20:40 might have an ADP of late round seven, early round eight in that spot. Heath, random draft tip. I just dropped Carson Wentz. I can't do it. What? That's not true. What? I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I'm sorry. That's awesome. No, you did it. Your team is Devante, Parker, Floyd. Who did you pick up? Fab's not open yet. Show, you didn't. Your team is Sabate, Parker, Floyd. Who did you pick up? The fab's not open yet. Show me the transaction space. Are you serious right now? Watching Adam check his email is probably the most fun thing I've seen all day.
Starting point is 00:21:15 There's no freaking way you dropped Carson Wentz. Are you out of your mind? Are you out of your mind? This is a joke, right? I can't. I can't do it. Yes, you can. You can. You can.
Starting point is 00:21:31 He was our last non-DST pick. Are you serious right now? Are, you really did it. I can't believe this. I have a picture to prove it. You idiot. You are such an idiot. Like, what the hell is the matter with you? I cannot believe this. I have a picture to prove it. You idiot. You are such an idiot. Like, what the hell is the matter with you?
Starting point is 00:21:47 I cannot believe this. Oh, my God. What is your stupid random draft tip, you moron? I hate you. Don't draft Carson Wentz in a 10-team league. I cannot believe it. You know what? I honestly hope that he wins the freaking MVP
Starting point is 00:22:06 And we lose to him in the finals I hope we lose to him now I hate you forever Alright, what's your random draft tip? I don't think she drafted a backup quarterback in 10 team leagues Oh my god Jamie, what is your random draft tip? I don't know if it's a tip
Starting point is 00:22:22 But I always feel better about my fantasy teams when I have a top six tight end. Okay. I like that. That's good to know. It's kind of the draft trends. Heath, do you have a real one or no? Well, it is a real one. I asked you if you want to do this beforehand.
Starting point is 00:22:39 You should not draft a backup quarterback in a 10-team league. I co-signed that. I think that it's a little short-sighted. I mean, who went after Carson Wentz? Why don't we take a look at that? Why don't we see who we passed up that was so incredible that we couldn't take the guy who was the best quarterback in football last year when he was healthy? Oh, we could have taken Blaupau.
Starting point is 00:22:59 That would have been okay. That would have been a much better pick. We could have taken Randall Cobb that nobody wants anymore. Jordan Wilkins? We could have taken Jordan Wilkins. That maybe would have made sense since Cobb that nobody wants anymore. Jordan Wilkins? We could have taken Jordan Wilkins. That maybe would have made sense since we have Marlon Mack. Wow, you passed on Jordan Wilkins? John Ross.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Oh, Jordan Wilkins and his two yards per carry this preseason. He's having a great year. We could have taken – So what's the yards per attempt for Carson Wentz? There were literally – there were how many? One, two, three. We could have taken Nick Chubb. Could have taken Matt Breida.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Or we could have taken the guy who was going to win the MVP last year before he tore his ACL at LCL. We could have done that. Before his knee blew out. We could have done that. Oh, yeah. Well, no, that's okay. Nobody's ever recovered from an ACL injury except for like every quarterback who's ever had an ACL injury. We could have taken Eric Ebron since Jordan Reed's are starting tight end.
Starting point is 00:23:42 We still can take Eric Ebron. How about that? That's actually interesting. So you have an injury-plagued tight end as your starter. Who's playing week one, by the way. I agree. But the likelihood of him playing 16 games is slim. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:23:58 The waiver wire is going to have plenty of tight ends to pick up. Who are you counting? And now we have room to go get one. But you also have the number one fantasy quarterback on your team, right? From a year ago? Yes. If you're going based on last year. Yeah, but we also have the guy who was actually better than him before he got hurt. Right, but he's coming off a major injury.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I understand that, but quarterbacks come back from ACL injuries just fine. There's history to prove this. Carson Palmer did it. I think Joe Flacco came back from an ACL injury. He was fine. There's history to prove this. Carson Palmer did it. I think Joe Flacco came back from an ACL injury. He was fine. I just drafted Ryan Tannehill in a Superflex League, so there's that. I don't think Joe Flacco was fine.
Starting point is 00:24:34 You know what, Jamie? I don't know if he was fine. It doesn't matter. He came back. He played. I don't know if he was fine. He stinks, so it doesn't matter. I hate you. Inj like, it's just – all right. I hate you. So injuries news and notes real quick. Odell Beckham signed a five-year deal.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Could be worth $95 million with $65 million guaranteed. Do you feel good about having his jersey now that you can wear it much longer? I can't. And eventually grow into it. You know I can't wear it. You got me a large jersey. I've never worn a large anything. So, yes, I'm happy that I have
Starting point is 00:25:06 his jersey. Buffalo head coach Sean McDermott has not made a quarterback decision yet. Does it matter? No. All right. Just tell him he doesn't even need to carry two quarterbacks. Who needs that? Marquise Lee is out for the season as we pretty much expected.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Jordan Reed and Chris Thompson expected to be ready for week one. Andrew Luck mispracticed with a minor foot injury. Does it matter? No. Doug Baldwin appears to be ready for week one. Will Fuller expected to be ready for week one. Seattle linebacker K.J. Wright underwent arthroscopic knee surgery,
Starting point is 00:25:40 making a bad defense potentially. No, I shouldn't say that. Making a suspect defense potentially even worse. They open at Denver. Let's see. The Patriots signed guard Shaq Mason to a five-year deal worth $50 million. The Vikings acquired center Brett Jones from the Giants for a draft pick. He's a backup center on a team with a questionable offensive line,
Starting point is 00:26:03 so can't be that good. How worried are you, if at all, about the Vikings' offensive line? Nervous. I'm okay with it. If you're talking about Dalvin Cook in the same range as Barkley, Hunt, I'm more worried about the Chiefs and the Giants' line than I am Minnesota's. All right, let's do Fantasy Regulators Part 1. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:26:29 From Tom. We got more later on in the show. Dear Alfie, Max, Forrest, and Bane. Yeah, I don't know either. Doesn't matter. Every year before the draft, my league votes on new proposed rules and league changes. Every year, I propose and advocate to remove the kicker. My league mates have gotten so tired of me saying we should remove the kicker
Starting point is 00:26:53 that this year there will be a vote to add a second kicker. What do I do? Vote no. I think that's funny. I think that they are so pissed at him for this that they're like, no, actually we're going to add a second kicker. kicker i mean vote no that's all you can do would you play in a league that starts two kickers if one of the best things about fantasy football is that it keeps groups of people that might not otherwise stay connected connected over long periods of
Starting point is 00:27:20 time so if these were people that i'd been connected with for a long time and this league was helping to do that i would stay in a league yeah were people that I'd been connected with for a long time and this league was helping to do that, I would stay in the league. Yeah, well, if you want to stay connected with people, don't drop players. Are you sure you want to be connected to people that want to start two kickers in a fantasy league? We had another email, and they seem to be full of spite as well. All right, ready for this? Fantasy regulators number two.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Okay. Sorry, that was a little loud. From Greg. Last year we welcomed an experienced drafter into our league based on my suggestion. Although he showed up to our draft hungover, unprepared, and fell asleep during the draft, failed to set a valid lineup week one, and didn't know what waiver priority meant until the playoffs, he still won the championship. The commissioner decided before the playoffs that he would not be invited back unknowing that
Starting point is 00:28:07 he would be our champion fast forward to today he was not invited back and is severely hurt about it he happened to be invited to a different league i'm in where he failed to pick more than one starting running back and actually wrote in jamie eisenberg in the 15th round of 17. Was my commissioner right to release him from our league even though he won? No. This guy sounds like a lot of fun. This is exactly the kind of guy you want to be hanging out with on DraftKings. I don't know if Jamie is going to get you double digits in fantasy points even 25% of the season. It's the 15th round.
Starting point is 00:28:40 It's the second time I've been added to a fantasy league. There was, I think, my first or second year on the job, somebody right in for their waiver wire just saw my name at the top of the column and wrote my name as an ad drop. Like I wouldn't be ready to let this guy invest my savings in the stock market, but when it comes to fantasy football, these are the types of knuckleheads I want to play with. It sounds like he fell ass backwards into a championship last year.
Starting point is 00:29:06 It's pretty funny. Let him try and win the league this year with Dalvin Cook and Jamie Eisenberg as his top running backs. All right. Well, those have been your – We had one more. Fantasy regulators. We have three more later on in the show, Heath. Okay, good, because I have one.
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Starting point is 00:31:17 Yeah, I think he should be moving up. And sounds like he's going to be, at least for the first six or seven weeks, the unquestioned feature back in Houston. Dave and Jamie, is 44th too early for Lamar Miller? By a smidge, no. Okay, good. Royce Freeman is right behind Lamar Miller. He's up seven spots to 45th overall. He is now ahead of Derrick Henry.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Royce Freeman is ahead of Derrick Henry in ADP. I'd rather have henry and freeman than miller i'd rather have miller than any of these but i think they're all good values i would rather have henry than freeman i'm just a little bit concerned we're going to see something dumb from denver in the first quarter of the season or the first quarter of the first game and then after that they come to their senses and roy Royce Freeman takes over. Royce Freeman mania. I'm looking at CBS ADP, and there's arrows there that help you identify who's going up and who's going down. A lot of Eagles going down right now, Ajayi, Jeffrey, Wentz.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I also try to compare it to the last week of NFL 10 ADP to see maybe if we have a comparison. Because if a guy is moving up, you don't know what his true adp is necessarily because it's factoring in obviously his old adp so let's take chris hogan for example jamie chris hogan in cbs adp he's up four spots he's now 66th overall he's moved ahead of michael crabtree but in mfl 10 adp over the last week, Hogan is 53rd overall. Is that an okay spot for Chris Hogan, 53rd overall? Yeah. I think he's got a chance for a huge season. So I have no problem with him in the round five range.
Starting point is 00:32:56 All right. Would you take Chris Hogan or Michael Crabtree? Chris Hogan. Chris Hogan or Marquise Goodwin? I have them back-to-back right now. I think I have Hogan one spot ahead of Goodwin, but that's one I've struggled with mightily because I think both guys are the number one receivers on their teams. I think both guys have very good quarterbacks,
Starting point is 00:33:12 and both are going to see high volume in targets and certainly production. Is Hogan the number one receiver in four weeks when Edelman gets back? He has the most touchdown potential of the receivers. He may not see the most targets or catches, but I think yards and touchdowns will favor him over Edelman gets back? He has the most touchdown potential of the receivers. He may not see the most targets or catches, but I think yards and touchdowns will favor him over Edelman because Edelman just doesn't score very much. Marquise Goodwin is up 10 spots. He's now 79th overall, but looking at MFL 10s over the last week,
Starting point is 00:33:38 he's 63rd overall, Marquise Goodwin. So I just compared him to Chris Hogan, but Chris Goodwin at 63rd overall, Dave, is that a good value? No. I don't think it is. I know there's guys in the room here that disagree with me. They think that he's going to have a breakout year. I'm in the show-me-first camp on Marquise Goodwin. I think he's a good receiver.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I think he's the best receiver in San Francisco. But early round six seems a little too rich for me. I might take him a good receiver. I think he's the best receiver in San Francisco. But early round six seems a little too rich for me. I might take him a round higher. I think he's going over 1,000 yards, scoring six-plus touchdowns, and he's going to be a borderline top-20 receiver. Yeah, round five for sure. That's where you should look to target him. Marquise Goodwin.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And Carlos Hyde is up 18 spots overall in CBS ADP. He's now 80th. But in MFL 10s over the last week, Carlos Hyde is 54th overall. So, yeah, I mean, round five is looking like a pretty nice round. If you like Hogan, if you like Goodwin, if you like Carlos Hyde, all those running backs you talked about, Jamal Williams, Mark Ingram. But Hyde in round five, 54th overall. Is that okay, guys?
Starting point is 00:34:42 Yeah, that's great. Maybe even still a little late. Would you rather have Hyde or Royce Freeman? Freeman. Freeman. Rolls Royce. Trey Burton is up 12 spots. He's 86th overall, and I thought maybe he'd be in the 60s in MFL 10s.
Starting point is 00:34:59 No, over the last week, he's still around 86th. Trey Burton still looks like a good value. People are getting it. People are sleeping on Trey. That's exactly where he should be going. No, he's going around 86th. Trey Burton still looks like a good batter. People are getting it. People are sleeping on Trey. That's exactly where he should be going. No, he's going to be fine. Yeah, all right. He's the best receiving target in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Let's focus just a little bit on these mid-round running backs that I keep referencing. Because if you're going to take the strategy that we just talked about, which you don't have to, but seems viable, first two rounds, you take a stud running back and a stud receiver rounds five, six, seven, and eight, you're taking running backs. I wanted to know how you guys rank. Burkhead, Ingram, Jamal Williams, Carlos Hyde. And if we want, we can throw Kerryon Johnson in there and anyone else. I think Royce Freeman is ahead of this group. But Burkhead averaged the same amount of fantasy points per touch as Todd Gurley last year in non-PPR.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Ingram has already had two seasons under his belt in which he's played 12 and 13 games. He'll hopefully play 12 this year. And he finishes a top 15 running back in both of those seasons. Jamal Williams, we don't have too much to go on in terms of him and Aaron Rodgers together. And then Carlos Hyde is basically at the end of the year. He's always borderline number one or a high-end number two running back. So Burkhead, Ingram, Jamal Williams, Carlos Hyde, I'll throw in Kerryon Johnson. Sort that group out for me, guys.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I think – and here's your draft strategy. When you have your starters at a certain position, you've got to look at things a little bit different. And Mark Ingram becomes one of the most valuable players available anywhere after you have two starting running backs. And he's even fine if you want to take your early week running back later. But Ingram is an absolute league winner in the fifth round. Okay. But if you're looking for a number two running back,
Starting point is 00:37:10 let's say you don't have your starter. I think to Heath's point, if you do what you said, Adam, where you go one star running back, two star receivers, let's say three star receivers, so that essentially becomes your flex if it's a 2-2 and a flex type of format, then you can take Ingram in the fifth round with the understanding that come week five, he's a top 20, if not top 15 running back,
Starting point is 00:37:36 and then you can go back-to-back with those two spots. And I think you look at the guys that are in questionable situations over the course of 16 games, which I'd put Burkett in that category because you don't know what's going to happen now that Sonny Michelle's back to practice. And if that knee doesn't hold up because it's got a slight tear in it, they can talk all they want to about.
Starting point is 00:37:52 He's the focal point of the offense. If he doesn't have a knee, he's not playing. So you can pair Ingram with Carson or Barber or, you know, anyone that may lose their job to more high-profile players behind him or go back-to-back and take Ingram and Hyde. It's hard to take Ingram and somebody like Kerryon Johnson
Starting point is 00:38:11 because his situation is more in the middle to the second half of the season, I think, is where he'll become a star. But Marshawn Lynch, older running back that may not hold up over 16 games, anybody in that range of I don't know what the situation may be by the time we get to the middle of the year, but in the beginning of the year, until Ingram comes back. And worst case scenario,
Starting point is 00:38:30 if you do take Ingram, there's Jonathan Williams at the end of the season. And he may not produce great numbers. At the end of the draft. I'm sorry, at the end of the draft. He may not produce great numbers, but he may get to six or seven, which is almost what you're looking at
Starting point is 00:38:41 when you draft your flex. Okay, let's say you need a number two. I understand what you're saying there. Just to wrap it up, if you need a number two running back, who's your favorite? Burkhead, Ingram, Williams, Hyde, Kerryon Johnson? Hyde. Williams for me. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Williams. Excuse me. I'm still going to say Ingram, assuming my number one running back is like what we did last night with Melvin Gordon. If it's Royce Freeman or somebody more in that range, then I might back off that, but I'll still say Ingram. So if you do it the reverse way, if you go receiver, let's say you go receiver, receiver, and Alex Collins.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Then I'd probably rather have Williams. Why not Burkhead? Fear. Patriots. See, the only thing we have to fear is Our co-owners dropping players we like Sorry
Starting point is 00:39:30 Tangent Adam's not going to let go of that I'm not going to pull a Carson Wentz and just let go Or anything like that That would be pulling a heat And letting go of Carson Wentz Alright so it's an interesting group of running backs They're all exciting In their own lovely ways I didn't even mention Marlon Mack Letting go of Carson Wentz. All right. So it's an interesting group of running backs.
Starting point is 00:39:47 They're all exciting in their own lovely ways. I didn't even mention Marlon Mack. Am I crazy for liking Marlon Mack as much as I do? How much do you like him? I have him on at least half my teams. Where did you draft him? I would say probably once we get to pick 70 overall, the antenna goes up for Marlon Mack. You're not crazy at all. I don't think that that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:06 It's crazy if you're taking him when you get to pick 50 or pick 60 and your antenna goes up. I think we may have taken him in the 60s last night. It's fine, though, a 10-team league because you can take more chances. Right, right, exactly. Especially, like you said, Bilal Powell's on waivers. That's another guy that can get you to release. He got drafted after we took Wentz. Oh, I'm sorry. That was somebody that you could have taken. Yeah, exactly. Especially, like you said, Bilal Powell's on waivers. That's another guy that can get you to release. He's not. He got drafted after we took Wentz. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:27 That was somebody that you could have taken. Yeah, yeah. I thought was available. All right. So thank you. Good stuff. I hope that is helpful for everybody as you get ready for your drafts. Another thing that's going to be helpful to get you ready for your drafts is NFL Game Pass.
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Starting point is 00:41:25 the seven-day free trial is at nfl.com slash fantasyfootballtoday, nfl.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. And I do think I'll be watching that Browns game to see more of Baker Mayfield. I've been really enjoying it. I think he makes some really professional throws. Looks like he's going to be a heck of a quarterback. Hopefully we get to see some Nick Chubb as well. Uh, nfl.com slash fantasy football today for your seven day free trial formats that devalue tight ends. Something I wanted to bring up. I'm seeing more and more leagues that are starting more starters, you know, three receivers and a flex or these super flex leagues that have a regular flex and a super flex. What do you think about just the basic philosophy that the more starters you have,
Starting point is 00:42:14 the less important a tight end becomes? I would say the more starters you have, the less important any one starter at any position becomes. Yeah, but they do tend to score not that many fancy points. Well, if anything, it might be an argument that I'm not going to have a hard time finding a receiver in the 12th round that's probably going to give me decent wide receiver three numbers. Maybe it makes more sense to take Gronk, Kelsey, or Ertz in those leagues. Say that again? Maybe it makes more sense to take Gronk to take Kelsey or Ertz in those leagues
Starting point is 00:42:45 Why? I missed that Because it won't be as hard to find The number three receiver late as it will be to find a tight end You're going to use Or a tight end that you want to use It really comes down to your own personal tight end Philosophy If they're a nuisance where you're just hoping to get
Starting point is 00:43:01 7, 8, 9 fantasy points from them Then you're going to wait That's just the nature of the way people like that think if you want to try and have an advantage where you draft a tight end who's got the potential every week to perform like a top 10 fantasy wide receiver maybe top 20 in the case of uh urts or kelsey depending on format then you go toward those tight ends. And then you don't have to worry about streaming, adding or dropping. You don't have to freak out if you start a tight end and for two weeks he stinks and then you've got to go look for another one.
Starting point is 00:43:37 You're locked in. You're investing in a very rock-solid player at a very thin position with the hopes that he gives you an advantage. Okay. Auction tips. People want auction tips. And it's a really difficult thing to do because every auction is so different.
Starting point is 00:43:54 But if somebody came up to you on the street and said, hey, you're Jamie Eisenberg. I just tried to draft you in my league. I'm doing an auction tomorrow. What should I do? Jamie, what would you tell that person? What's the budget? $200. Well, then I should go an auction tomorrow. What should I do? Jamie, what would you tell that person? What's the budget? $200.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Well, then I should go for $200. Well, you need some room for a $1 bid. No, no, no. I cover all positions. $180, $185. No. All right. Well, that's true.
Starting point is 00:44:16 You should do $199 and then $1 for Carson Wentz. Yes. Perfect. If Heath doesn't claim him first. Jamie, what would you tell this stranger on the street? I told two buddies of mine last night that we're headed to an auction. Same thing I'll tell anybody. Get your kicker and your defense first because get it out of the way,
Starting point is 00:44:33 and you can probably get the ones you want because nobody else wants to bid on them and waste money. Bid up players you don't want on your team. You mean bid them up or nominate them? I'm sorry, excuse me. Yes, thank you, Dave. Nominate players you don't want on your team. Well want to bid them up or nominate them? I'm sorry. Excuse me. Yes, thank you, Dave. Nominate players you don't want on your team. Well, also bid them up, true. I've got some horror stories about that.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I wouldn't necessarily go get in at the end. Do it early if you're going to do that. And be patient. I find the best teams that I have with auctions are the ones where I don't have any first round guys. And while that sounds funny, but I would prefer to have multiple guys in the second through fifth-round options.
Starting point is 00:45:26 So you could say second and third-tier guys more so than the number one tier just because I feel like overspending on those guys ruins your team in an auction because you're stuck there sitting and watching all these great buys go by. I do feel like the more budget that's out there, the higher the budget, the trickier it is to be patient and wait for those values because people have more money to spend and there's going to be people that still go for one, two, three bucks at the end. They do on the star players, but I think – Exactly. But after those star players, you're going to still see some moderate pricing on the tier three, tier four types of running backs and wide receivers. My thing would be go in with a strategy, and it doesn't necessarily – like I know I don't necessarily like the positional strategies in a draft, but in an auction, you're going to go in with a strategy of trying to get this group of wide receivers and then getting the one that goes the cheapest.
Starting point is 00:46:14 But also, every auction is so completely different. There will come a time in your auction where you're like, oh, there's all the value. But you don't know it until it happens, so be ready to shift gears. When does that typically happen in your experience? I don't think it's – like sometimes it happens in the middle of the draft with around three through six guys because the guys in the first round have gone way too early.
Starting point is 00:46:40 But every once in a while, you just keep waiting, keep waiting, and then all of a sudden you get to a point where seven through ten guys are all going for a dollar and i think understanding who you can get for dollar bids and hopefully you've done an auction with the same people in the past understanding what you can get for dollar or two dollar bids is is extremely important or in a 200 budget even like a five dollar bid because if you feel like you can get quality players for very, very cheap, that frees up money to get two or three studs and spend a big chunk of your money on a small number of players, which is exactly the opposite of what Jamie is saying. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:17 So I apologize for that. But I personally cannot get – I could not do an auction and not have one great player. I mean, that would scare me. And I would like to have two great players if possible. Yeah, and you'd prefer to steal them if you can. Another thing is know your audience. I'm in an auction league with like 80% of the league is Rams fans, and so I don't nominate anyone but a Ram until they're all gone. Yeah, and Adam, when I say I don't want a first-round player, I think we could all agree that the players in the second round are still great.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yeah, but I mean, for me it's like there's a top 20, and I'd love to get two of them. Sure, but you just said in the 10-team league you got Melvin Gordon to what, pick 15? 14. Okay, so that would be a second-round grade, right? Yeah, right. As long as I can hit... I just don't want to start my team with round three guys.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I'm not saying I'm going in as much as I like Joe Mixon. I don't want him to be my number one running back. Right. Okay, okay, okay. And it's not like you're going to ignore first-round players. If Le'Veon Bell is up and the high bid is $46 in a $200 auction, are you going to bid $47? Or are you going to say, no, I don't want to play Toronto? Of course.
Starting point is 00:48:20 You're going to try to get value. It's not, but we know that auctions are crazy and random things happen. Something kind of similar to that happened to me earlier this month. Here are the two things that I like to do. Number one, before you go into your auction, tier players at each position. Put them in groups based on what you think their expectations are going to be, and then pay attention as the auction unfolds. Write down what they're going for, the first name, the second name in a tier,
Starting point is 00:48:43 what's their price, and then you have an idea on what you're going to have to spend to get other players in that tier if you want one. You might even be able to get one for a few bucks less in that same tier. And then you say, awesome, I got a running back in tier one that went for four or five less than this other running back in the same tier. I also have a rule that I like to follow called the 20-50 rule. You want to save 20% of your auction budget for the last half of the auction nominations. And if you're in a 12-team league, that probably means after nomination 80, 70, 80, because that's when you're going to find a lot of bargains. That's where you're going to find a lot of the $1, $2, $3 players
Starting point is 00:49:19 that could eventually become starters for your team. Cool. I like it. Heath, best ball tips. We're doing some best ball drafts on the Draft app. And the promo code there, if you want to get into a best ball draft for free or any type of draft, I believe, for free, promo code is FFT when you make your first deposit on the Draft app. Heath, give me some tips for best ball.
Starting point is 00:49:38 The first thing you need to know is what's the payout structure of your best ball league. Some of them are winner-take-all. Some of them are top three get money back. So just pay attention to that because you may want to be a little bit more cautious in leagues where the top three get paid. Second thing I would say is make sure you don't do an entire best ball draft and only draft one tight end. That might sound weird, but there's no waivers. Yeah, no, our quarterback, right. You've got to draft a backup at every position.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I prefer if I can get one elite tight end and a backup and one good quarterback and a backup, and I feel pretty good. But if it's one of those drafts where quarterbacks go earlier than I think they should and I don't get one until the 12th round, I might take three in the last six or seven rounds of the draft. The other thing is consistency. I'm not a big – I don't concern myself with consistency a lot in regular drafts, but if you are someone that does that, throw it out the window
Starting point is 00:50:34 because those inconsistent players like Brandon Cooks have a lot of value in this format. Right, exactly. All right, good stuff. It's Team Name Tuesday, and then it's Fantasy Regulators time. Here are some Team Name Tuesday submissions. then it's Fantasy Regulators time. Here are some Team Name Tuesday submissions. Thank you, everybody, for coming in strong with these. Deshawn of the Dead.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Deshawn of the Dead, I like that. Instagram for Jimmy Graham. That's also very good. Tyreek A. Morris Rex. That's really good. Tyreek A. Morris Rex. It's always Sony in Philadelphia. Jamal out of love. Yeah, that's a good. Tyreek A. Morris Rex. It's always Sony in Philadelphia. Jamal out of love.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah, that's a good one. Girl, you can't be serious. Gasicki Kai Trey, Butker Tucker. There we go. I think he'd like that. Burton Ernie. Burton Ernie. Some of these are clever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:24 This guy said, I have a Superflex team in which I kept Brady this year and drafted carry-on Johnson. So keep Tom and carry on. Yeah, I like that. Winter came, Fournette Stark. That one is not that easy to digest. Winter came, Fournette Stark. You kind of get it. Jamie, you get it, right?
Starting point is 00:51:43 Winter came, Fournette Stark. I don't get it. I named one of my teams Terrible Pun. What? I named one of my teams Terrible Pun. Is that just like because all team names are terrible puns? Yes. I got a good one for you guys.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Carson came and went. Carson came and went. Changing the team name now. I am so mad. Like, it's not right. Should we let him in on a joke? What's the joke? I guess not. I don't think he's made a joke of it.
Starting point is 00:52:18 What is happening right now? What is happening? So when you were going through the whole story i i am teeth i said hey just real quick drop carson went to see what adam's reaction would be since you just added back as the commissioner watching you go nuts was so worth it okay honestly that was very much worth it good job oh yeah we all enjoyed it that was really well played oh Oh, you jerks. All right, Fantasy Regulators Part 2. This is from Ian.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Egregiousness. My league drafted over the weekend offline with a poster board. We do this every year, but this year a couple guys apparently forgot how to draft without a computer. One manager who was using a magazine from July took Darius Geis in the fifth round. We all looked at each other silently as though he got a computer. One manager who was using a magazine from July took Darius Geist in the fifth round. We all looked at each other silently as though he got a steal. The next manager almost
Starting point is 00:53:12 picked before the commissioner stopped it and the commissioner took Geist off the board. My issue is that this guy got off scot-free. I don't think peeling the sticker off the poster is adequate enough shame. What would you guys have done if somebody drafted Darius Geis? I drafted him twice,
Starting point is 00:53:28 but it's Keeper League, so... No, this is not. What round did you get him in? Eight and nine, but the one where I got him in round nine was... That's where keepers go. Round eight was... I get to keep him in round eight next year.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Now we have an idea on where to draft Geis and keep him. Great. Now what about this? We need to regulate. What do you do if somebody's stupid and drafts Geis? How do you shame him? Or do you just let that pick stand? Well, if you're going to let people make trades in the league without vetoing
Starting point is 00:53:57 and say let adults be adults, then you've got to let adults be adults here too. You can't baby him and say, no, Johnny, you took a player who blew out his knee Now you have to pick somebody else The pick stands Yeah, alright Pick should have stood Kevin from Massachusetts Dear Winston, Ray, Egon, and Ray
Starting point is 00:54:18 You couldn't think of Peter? This is the fourth Ghostbuster? Come on man, regulating you I need some regulation. I'm in the commission of this PPR4 Keeper League. Our league uses a rolling waiver priority and waivers clear on Wednesday morning and lock on game starts. We're not willing to go to fab. Everyone in our league complains about something I do.
Starting point is 00:54:40 I set my alarm on Wednesdays to wake up at 4 a.m. each week so I can get up when waivers clear and can pick up any free agents left over so I don't have to use my waiver priority. They want to prohibit this by moving the waiver clearing time on Wednesdays back to about noon or going to continuous waivers. What do you think? He does not break any rules. Should they change the rules? I have a guy that does this in one of my leagues, and we all hate him.
Starting point is 00:55:06 But this is just being a good owner. Job well done. If they want to regulate it out, then that's bad on them. But if they have the majority of votes, they can do that. I think you're doing a good job as an owner of your team. I think you're doing what it takes to follow a rule that your league has. That being said, it's a dumbass rule and it's costing you valuable sleep
Starting point is 00:55:28 time. Wouldn't you rather be in bed? No, it's not. You need it. This is what all our leagues do, isn't it? Ours process at like 2 a.m. or 3 a.m. or 4 a.m. Ours process at 2 a.m. I'm usually working, so I love it because I'll make ad drops as soon as it... I got no problem with it. Which I don't have a problem with that either
Starting point is 00:55:44 because the waivers run first. So I put in my waiver claims right before bedtime. What's the dumbass rule in this league? Then I go to bed and I wake up in the morning. What's the dumbass rule in this league? Because it sounds like they're... So wait a minute. No, waivers run, and then he wakes up in the morning at 5 a.m.,
Starting point is 00:55:58 and he picks up the players. Oh, okay. This is fine. I was thinking that he opens up... Right, so I thought he was just opening up waiver ad drops at this point. People can just make ad drops whenever. If the league has a problem with it,
Starting point is 00:56:11 it's not a dumbass rule. It's fine. If the league has a problem with it, they should vote it out. Just like he said. Can I give you two reports on guys we've talked about? According to ESPN, Mike McCarthy said Jamal Williams is poised to have a big year. His quote is, I think we'll be talking about him at the end
Starting point is 00:56:26 of the season as a second-year player. He's been talking about him a lot this preseason. And then there's a report from ESPN San Francisco that Alfred Morris is not expected to steal work from Jarek McKinnon or Matt Brita. He's just insurance in case both guys are injured at some point during the start of the season. And I think
Starting point is 00:56:41 it is, I don't know if there's a quote from the ESPN report. I don't think there's any a quote from... I think it's just from the ESPN report. I don't think there's any evidence to indicate he's going to take reps from McKinnon or Brita, yet assuming they're healthy for a week one. Good stuff. Last one. John, help me, fantasy regulators. You're my only hope. Our snake
Starting point is 00:56:57 draft is on Saturday. One league member cannot attend our draft and will be without Wi-Fi. He has a good excuse, but didn't let anyone know until three days before the draft that he can't make it. He has asked another Sorry about that. A. Let another league member draft for him? B, let vice commissioner and commissioner, me, draft for him? C, make him auto-draft? Or D, kick him out of the league Heath style? I've had two instances of this recently, where one, guys I've played softball with for 15 years at this point. One guy, this is the second time he didn't show up.
Starting point is 00:57:49 The first time he didn't show up, I picked for him. I ended up losing to him in the championship game. I didn't make any ad drops throughout the course of the season. Wow. Congratulations. His team was just stacked. Did he give you a cut? No.
Starting point is 00:58:02 And I think he bought me drinks. That's a cut. It happened again. And so they wouldn't let me pick for him or take top of queue. And we found somebody, our former colleague Sergio Gonzalez, drafted for him. So we found somebody else. As a commissioner in one league, we were drafted last night. One guy set his cue.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I don't know what he did. He's not a very novice fantasy player. I just wanted to be in a league. In the second round, I'm assuming he set his cue, but in the second round, DeMarco Murray was his second-round pick. So I had to stop the auto-draft, and then I just started picking for him top of cue. So I just took the guy top of projections, not my own rankings, whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And I made it very clear that that's what I was doing and nobody had a problem with it. Yeah, that makes sense. So did you go like running back, running back? Did you fill out a starting lineup? I filled out his kicker and his defense by around 10 because we start 10 players. So I went strictly in order of if he needed a tight end, it was a top tight end. If he needed a third receiver, it was third receiver.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I filled out his lineup straight down the line. Damn, this song is good, isn't it? All right, anybody want to add anything or are we good? Show up to your draft, moron. Wow. He said he has a very good excuse. He has a good excuse. There is no good excuse.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I hope this guy's family is okay. Where is he? In the middle of – He could have all kinds of problems. What if he's In the middle of – He could have all kinds of problems. What if he's in the middle of the military and he couldn't make his draft because he got called on deployment last second? Yeah, I mean that's really – Does that happen? I don't really have that big of a problem with somebody else drafting for him.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I know that's not typically my style, but I've done it. Somebody else in the league or somebody else outside the league? If he wants to leave his team up to somebody else in the league, his team's probably not going to be as good as it could be. We're out of here. Depending on how good of a fantasy player he is. We're doing a draft on the air tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Get excited. Bye, everybody. Bye, everybody. We'll talk to you on Wednesday. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na.

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