Fantasy Football Today - 08/29 Fantasy Football Podcast: FFT Smorgasbord

Episode Date: August 29, 2017

We're covering A LOT of topics on today's show, beginning with the latest on Ezekiel Elliott (1:50) and possible suspension scenarios. Then it's on to Andrew Luck's appropriate value (7:05) and who we... were excited to select in our Podcast League draft last night! ... Decimal scoring: yes or no (20:20)? FAAB: yes or no (22:00)? Mean deceitful tricks in your auction: yes or no (24:00)? ... Updated thoughts on some challenging players like Jay Ajayi (28:00), Todd Gurley (30:00) and Tyreek Hill (37:40), plus ADP risers (39:30), handcuffs (55:40) and more ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! We're here to help you win the ultimate bragging rights. A fantasy title. Let's go! Now here's Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Ian.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Happy Zeke Day, everybody. It's Tuesday, August 29th, two days away from our live event in Philadelphia. Hope you're going to be there. Welcome to Fantasy Football today. A fantasy football smorgasbord. We're just going to talk about a lot of players, a lot of good info for you as you get ready for your drafts. Dave, Jamie, Heath, good morning. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Sup, boo? Good morning. Oh, thank you. So nothing sup on my end. I do want to give out – I never do this, so let's give out the Twitter handles real quick. At Adam Azer, A-I-Z-E-R. At Jamie Eisenberg, J-A-M-E-Y. At Heath Cummings Sr., Heath Cummings S-R.
Starting point is 00:00:53 At Dave Richard, singular, at Dave Richard. We've got good advice for you on Twitter. And if you follow me, then you have a good chance of getting on the show because I put a lot of tweets in the notes. And also I never want to be someone who has more tweets than Twitter followers. So I'm approaching that. So please help. So Ezekiel Elliott is appealing his suspension today. We have some news on him that came from NFL.com this morning.
Starting point is 00:01:16 And we're going to talk about last night's podcast league draft, which was 14 teams and PPR. How do things change in 14-team leagues? Guys, fantasy football is back and that means FanDuel is back. Fantasy football for everyday fans. Sign up today. Go to FanDuel.com. Click the join now button and use our code CBSPOD. New users get free entry into the NFL Sunday Million with over $1 million in cash prizes when you make your first deposit on FanDuel. Sign up and use that promo code CBSPOD. All right, so we got this report from Mike Florio. I said NFL.com.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I'm very sorry. It's pro football talk. Mike Florio said there's a, quote, very good chance, end quote, that Ezekiel Elliott plays week one. So he could go the court route like Tom Brady did and try to appeal this suspension. We don't know what it's going to be. Right now it's six games. But this could mean that Ezekiel Elliott might miss time later in the year.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Or maybe it'll be next year. Who knows? But what do you do with Ezekiel Elliott right now? Do you draft him in the second round? Yeah. I don't know how much you move him up based on this. If it's four games, he's a first-round pick for me. Yep.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I don't disagree with that. It's late first round because I want that early pick coming back in round two. I'm not taking him at number three overall. But the reason why there's a, quote, very good chance is because he's going to take the Tom Brady route and hit the courts and appeal this thing and get a stay or an injunction or whatever. He could play the whole year. Potentially play the whole year. That would be ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:02:54 And so if you get him at any point other than number three overall and that's the case, then you're making out like a bandit. Or you could lose him for the last six games of the season. I mean, that's also a possibility that no one knows about right now. I would take that over what we're currently doing with them. Oh, you would? Because then you get off to a good start, and then you can McFadden it the rest of the way. Or whoever.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Ooh. Well, I guess you've got to make the playoffs before you worry about the playoffs. There's always guys who emerge. Yeah, but there's no Zeke's. Well, unlikely. Would you rather have the first ten games or the last 10 games? I think, well, because you have to make the playoffs, I think it makes sense to take the first 10 games.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yes. Right. Plus one of those last games is going to be Week 17. Your league might not play into Week 17. That would help you out. So that's one less headache that you have to deal with. And I think it also is so dependent on the type of league you're in. Like I took him yesterday at number 18 in a 2014 league,
Starting point is 00:03:50 and I felt pretty good about that. I'm still not to the point to where I'm taking him in the first round if he gets a four-game suspension. I'll take him every second. All right. So I guess – Just to follow up, I think it makes sense in the league that you're referencing because you only need to start one guy. Right. So I guess – Just to follow up, I think it makes sense in the league that you're referencing because you only need to start one guy.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Right. And in that league, you're not trying to finish sixth out of 12 teams to make the playoffs. You've got to finish eighth out of 24 teams to make the playoffs. I want you guys to tell me just – this could be relevant for the Zeke owner or the Doug Martin owner. And maybe it's not relevant for the Zeke owner since he's likely going to play week one According to this report Reports are wrong sometimes, we never know But I had forgotten how good Tampa Bay's early season schedule was
Starting point is 00:04:32 And Jacquez Rogers He's going a lot later than McFadden At least in the drafts I've been in At Miami in week one Home against Chicago in week two And then it gets tough At Minnesota, Giants, Patriots, Cardinals. Yikes, Doug Martin.
Starting point is 00:04:48 But if you're just looking for somebody for weeks one and two, Jacquez Rogers at Miami, home against Chicago, how good could that be for fantasy owners? Could be very good. Ten plus fantasy points in both games. Yeah. Because he's going to get, we assume he's going to get over 15 carries, which is what he needs to even have a chance.
Starting point is 00:05:09 He'll get volume. He'll get scoring chances. They should be winning those two games. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool. The one concern would be is that they didn't really use Charles Sims a lot when Rodgers was getting his opportunity last year.
Starting point is 00:05:24 And so we'll see if that hurts him a little bit. Because he had that 30-carry game against Carolina on a Thursday night. I wouldn't expect that. But like Dave said, 15-plus carries is certainly well within reach. Yep. And I gave the stat yesterday for Jock was five games with 15 or more carries last year, and he scored between 12 and 15 points in standard scoring leagues in four of those five games.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So he had four pretty darn big games, and he scored seven fantasy points in the in standard scoring leagues in four of those five games. So he had four pretty darn big games. And he scored seven fantasy points in the other, which isn't really that bad. That's going to be around a number two running back most weeks. Average 4.2 yards or more per carry in three of those five games. Anyway, just wanted to throw that out there. Don't forget about Jacquez Rogers if you need someone just for the first two weeks. All right, so I guess things haven't really changed that much with Ezekiel Elliott with this recent news, and hopefully tomorrow we'll have a lot more to talk about with him.
Starting point is 00:06:11 So let's go to the draft. We'll start just with the draft last night. It was a 14-team PPR league, and again, the point of today's show is to talk about a lot of players and get people ready and give people an idea on how we feel about certain guys. Who was your favorite pick on your team from last night's draft? Heath Cummings, you can start. The $26 million man, Matthew Stafford. I drafted him in the ninth round as the 13th quarterback off the board. And I just think it's a little bit silly.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Stafford's been a top 10 quarterback three of the last four seasons. I expect him to be a top 10 quarterback again this year. There are some guys that are younger that he was better than last year that are now being drafted ahead of him, and I'll take Stafford late. Do you know what though, Heath? I'm sorry. Do you remember? So that was 126 overall or something? I think it was right before your favorite pick. No, it was after my favorite pick. So I'm just sorry to do this to you, but my favorite pick is so much better than your favorite pick. Well, you're choosing two players. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Like if you want to go with my favorite two picks, then maybe it would compete with your favorite two picks. I'm only going with one. Jamie and I will be the judge on this. We'll see which one is truly better. Stafford's not a bad one in a 14-team league, round nine. Right. It's not bad. Seven or eight picks earlier, I took Andrew Luck. Well, Keith has a quarterback
Starting point is 00:07:34 week one. I have Carson Palmer. I have Carson Palmer, who has that great early schedule. Oh, wait. No, we don't get to factor that in. You said it was just one player. But Andrew Luck should not be going after pick 100. He should be a top 100 pick. I took him 106th overall.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I'm very happy about it. Adam, you're not worried that he didn't participate in a wink of training camp practice? Yeah, I'm worried. You're not worried that he's just now getting into throwing a football? He's thrown a football all his life. It's like riding a bike, Dave.
Starting point is 00:08:10 If he's practicing this week, at some capacity this week, maybe it's Friday after they come back from whatever they're doing Thursday night. I don't know if they're on the road or home. They have a preseason game. I don't know where it is. Right. But if he starts from that point forward, clearly at this point Chuck Pagano's not playing in week one. I don't think he can.
Starting point is 00:08:23 No. So if he's practiced through week one, practiced through week two, get those two ugly games out of the way against the Rams and the Cardinals. Comes back week three against Cleveland. Comes back week three against Cleveland, and he's right for 14 games. Maybe throw in another game like we saw last year and misses it with a concussion. You guys can't see, Adam, but he's raising the roof. I did raise the roof because I just literally raised the roof.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Hold on. Are you still raising the roof? I want to see this. I did the same thing in another draft last night. Now this is a keeper league, so I get Andrew Luck in round 10 next year as well. That's genius. Very nice. I'm going to pair him with Carson Palmer in a draft I did this weekend. I told the guy
Starting point is 00:08:59 take Palmer to pair with Luck. It's the perfect, perfect situation because of their schedule. And Adam did the right thing there. So if you're okay getting through the first couple weeks with two quarterbacks, which a lot of people are, you're in great shape. Adam, I want you to keep raising the roof because I want to see your reaction when I tell you that in week four Andrew Luck plays at Seattle.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I don't care. So I'll keep Carson Palmer. He's got San Francisco in week four. What I'm thinking is... So you're excited about stealing this quarterback that you're going to stream even after he's healthy. Well, he can say that he can stream him because he's taking him as late as he's taking him. And it's a unique situation given everything that's going down with Andrew Luck. My quarterback has a chance to be the number one quarterback while he plays.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yours doesn't. My quarterback has a very good chance of being a top five quarterback. Yours has about a 15% chance. Technically, your quarterback has a chance of beginning the year on the pup list. That is very true. And now you have the Ezekiel Elliott of quarterbacks. That's true. I mean, listen, let's face it.
Starting point is 00:09:59 With that title, it's not that bad that he's going to miss six games. But the Colts have said all along that they don't intend to keep him on the pup list september 2nd is a very big day for everyone who's looking at andrew luck in fantasy all right still on the populace after that day bye bye for six weeks of the season hello scott pulls the but again that's a different conversation though in terms of luck you just said seattle in week four So now he's avoided three games where you may not have been 100% comfortable starting him anyway. You would have started him. You would have started him against the Rams and the Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:10:32 For the most part, yes. But he avoids those three games, right? Who does he have Week 5? Week 5, he is at home versus the 49ers. Yeah, it's going to be pretty good. Do they hold him out until then? Week five, he is at home versus the 49ers. Yeah. Pretty good. It's going to be – Do they hold him out until then?
Starting point is 00:10:48 Do they take him? No, not if he's healthy. I mean, if he's healthy, he's going to play when he's healthy. They don't care who the matches are. My personal expectation is his first game is week four. I think it's week – Wow. He comes back at Seattle.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I'll go by what Stephen Holder, one of the beat writers for the Indianapolis Star, said. Or Mike Chappell, one of the two guys who covered the Colts in Indianapolis. They said week three is the most realistic thing at this point. All right, Jamie, who was your favorite pick from last night? Zach Ertz in the sixth round. I didn't have a great receiving core at that point, but I wasn't going to pass up on Ertz at that point in the draft. And so my math is terrible, so I'm not going to tell you what pick that was. It was the third pick of the sixth round.
Starting point is 00:11:35 14-team. 93. So, yeah, I mean, that's about the spot he's going on ADP. And so I passed up on, you know, I think I had taken Pierre Garçon at that point. Yeah, so my receivers were Michael Thomas and Pierre Garçon, and that's it. I had good running backs at that point, but it was comparing Zach Ertz to Emmanuel Sanders
Starting point is 00:11:58 and Tyrell Williams and Deshaun Jackson. I just thought there was much, much more upside with Ertz. And I wasn't going to get Ertz or Rudolph or potentially Tyler Eifert back. So it was kind of an easy choice for me. Yeah, and not to mention, tight end gets pretty scary in PPR after Ertz is off the board
Starting point is 00:12:24 because Eifert's got this knee thing. Well, Rudolph is still very good. Yeah, sure. But it's a 14-team league, so you're not guaranteed to get any of those guys. And Kobe Fleener is my tight end. We'll talk about tight end later. So Jamie definitely took the value with Ertz. That's 73rd overall, not 93rd.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Third pick of round six. Dave, your favorite pick on your team last night? My favorite value was Tyreek Hill in round five, 62nd overall. I thought in a 14-team league, getting him to be my number two receiver was pretty good. I thought that that was a real nice addition to my roster. When we were up, when Tyler was on the clock uh i say weeks i've got a partner his name sia uh tyreek and davante parker were the two wide outs available and i knew we'd get one of them and i was excited that it was hill instead of parker so i kind of taught myself that as much as i like davante parker i still like hill even more i i think for for to answer your question i think aaron rogers at 34 overall was my favorite.
Starting point is 00:13:25 This is a 14-team league. It certainly makes the quarterback talent pool a little more shallow. I've got the best one in fantasy football, and I still got him in round three. Felt like a steal to me. I think the worst thing in fantasy is when four guys in your queue just get taken right before your pick. You mean like Aaron Rodgers, Dalvin Cook, Christian McCaffrey, and Leonard Fournette? That's exactly. Those four players I wanted very badly in round three.
Starting point is 00:13:51 It went Fournette, McCaffrey, Cook, Rodgers, and then I was so bad. I cursed. My wife got mad at me for throwing a fit. I took time on Gummery with the seventh pick of round three in a 14-team league. It felt really early, but all those guys went, and Aaron Rodgers, Dave, you really ticked me off, so good job. That's how you know it's a good pick. The girl behind you is really angry.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Way to go. Thanks, buddy. You're welcome. We've got news and notes for you. I do want to remind you, Philadelphia on Thursday, 6 to 9 p.m. If you're in the area, please come to Victory Beer Hall at Xfinity Live. Free food and drinks, Q&A.
Starting point is 00:14:30 We're going to do that live podcast. Also, this year, some programming changes. If you've been listening to our show for a while, you know we do the AFC home games on Thursday, the NFC on Friday. This year, we're going to change it up a little bit. We're going to do the tough calls for the week on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:14:46 The really tough matchups won't be AFC or NFC specific. And then on Friday we'll kind of go through all the games a little bit quicker and give maybe some more sleepers and stuff like that, update you on injuries, talk about Thursday night's game. So I think it will be a little bit better. Saturday, we're going to have a Saturday show. We're going to record it on Fridays. I can't promise this will happen every week,
Starting point is 00:15:06 but the goal is to do about a 20-minute mailbag and air it on Saturday. So we get so many emails, don't get a chance to read that many. This will help us, A, not rush to get emails in the Thursday and Friday shows, and, B, just be able to read more of your questions and get you more involved in the show. And then we are not doing a Monday show. Instead, we are doing a Sunday night recap show during the Sunday night football game. But you'll have that late Sunday night for your early morning Monday commute.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I think you will enjoy that. And finally, Ion Fantasy Football Hour radio show on CBS Sports Radio. That is back starting on Saturday. A four-hour bonanza extravaganza dave did you just curse the show i i'm so confident in our show on saturday that i it is bonanza proof you just called it a bonanza extravaganza that's how big of a show it is how many more words that end in z a can you come up with to describe the show in In this stanza, I don't think I can do any of those. So Ion Fantasy Football will be every Saturday night from 10 p.m. to midnight.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Actually, I don't even know. Are we 8 to midnight or are we 10 to 2 a.m.? We are 8 to midnight. Okay, this week. Four hours. Okay, that's awesome. So we'll speak to you then. That is a call-in show, CBS Sports Radio, or you can go online and listen on the website.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I'm not sure what it is off the top of my head. Do you know? Does anybody know? What, the website? CBSSportsRadio.com. Or CBSSports.com. Oh, okay. I know that website.
Starting point is 00:16:32 It's also in the app, the free CBS Sports app. All right, perfect. I'm going to stop plugging things, and let's get into the notes. Matthew Stafford is going to sign a contract extension that will make him the highest paid player in NFL history and therefore the greatest player in NFL history. Le'Veon Bell will be back on September 1st. Quick reaction. Blake Bortles is Jacksonville's starting quarterback.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Deshaun Kizer is Cleveland's starting quarterback. That's a different noise than blah. Eh. I mean, I'm... We're not putting him on our fantasy team. Pessimistically intrigued. Pessim... You've just described Browns fans for the last 20 years. Like, huh.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I wonder how this will go bad. Okay, I'm going to guess that he... That Deshaun Kaiser averages two turnovers per game. You want to take the over or the under? Under. I think he's going to be terrible. 32 turnovers is a lot. Yeah, I don't know if he's going to play before he gets to 24.
Starting point is 00:17:36 That's why I said per game. This is his guy whose own college coach said he wasn't ready. But he peppered Corey Coleman with targets, didn't he, last week? So that's kind of interesting. We'll talk about that. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:17:53 There's Kenny Britt on one side. There's David Nadropu on the other side. Hey! And there's Corey Coleman. That's not nice. David, the fumble you. Chuck Pagano did not name a starter for week one, yet it'll be Stephen Morris or probably
Starting point is 00:18:10 Scott Tolzien. Josh McCown, Jet starting quarterback. Reaction? Bleh. Better for Robbie Anderson, I'd say. Let's rank Blake Bortles, Josh McCown, and Deshaun Kaiser for everybody in those four. I think that's Chris Towers' two quarterback leagues.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Right, right, right. For everybody in those four. I think that's Chris Towers' two quarterback leagues. Right, right, right. For everybody in those four quarterback leagues. Bortles, Kizer, McCown. Yeah. I don't think I even have any Jet quarterback ranked in my top 32. We're savage factoring with this. He's got to be ahead of the class.
Starting point is 00:18:42 You're going to take Blake Bortles? I would put him last just because I don't think he lasts the season as a starter. I don't want any of these guys on my team and I don't think he'll last long. He might last longer than the other three. I'd go Bortles, Kaiser, Savage, McKellips. Alright, let me interrupt this horribly scheduled programming. CJ Proceiss returned to practice for the Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Thomas Rawls could be back today. Leonard Fournette will be ready for week one. Jarvis Landry is... He wants to play Thursday night. Oh, that'd be fun. We'll be in Philadelphia, but... Yeah, don't play. Sit it out, Fournette.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah, rest that foot. Jarvis Landry is not getting traded. Brandon Marshall returned to practice. Odell Beckham has a chance to play in week one. Is Odell Beckham still your number three receiver? Yes. Nope. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Who do you have ahead of him, Heath? Until he's, you know, dire straits, which he's not going to be before week one. I've got A.J. Green ahead of him. All right. Seattle defensive end Frank Clark is having his wrist evaluated. He's a very good player. And the Redskins nose tackle Phil Taylor is out for the season with a torn quad. Guys, I just want to tell you, we'll get there eventually, but
Starting point is 00:19:45 a terrible round of Team Name Tuesday is coming up later. It's just... Terrible by your standards or terrible by everybody else's standards? I don't know the difference. I have low standards. For the standards of this show...
Starting point is 00:20:03 You think Ghostbusters 2 is an Oscar-worthy film. It's so funny. Hey, I think they were nominated for Best Special Effects with the slime. Were they? By who? No. Nickelodeon Kids Choice Awards? By Adam's brother.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yeah, you know. Gotta love the Nickelodeon slime. Master of slime. Email of the day number one is from Brandon at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Decimal points are being voted on this year for our league. People for decimal points say that they are for it because it eliminates ties. I prefer the more old school, no fractional point leagues. What points leagues?
Starting point is 00:20:36 What are your guys' preferences? And do you have a good tiebreaker option? I think I may be the most passionate about this. And I really feel like decimal point leagues are the way that it should be um and it's not because it avoids ties that's a nice benefit but the reason to do it is because you should get credit for every yard 10 yards is not one point better than nine yards i agree yeah there's no there's no justification i agree how many times? There's no justification. I agree. How many times have you just had your nose frosted because you lost by a few points and you had Doug Baldwin with 79 yards and Jay Ajayi with 88 yards?
Starting point is 00:21:15 And I will tell you, the reason it was old school is, and I did this in the past, there was a time when we calculated the score of our fantasy football team out of the newspaper. It was much easier to just round to the nearest tenth. We have evolved. We don't need to do that anymore. I don't see a good reason not to do decimal scoring.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And it's weird because I only play in one fractional scoring league. I don't see a reason not to do it. I think we're for it. Alright, we approve it. Can we just keep it to a tenth of a point? Yeah. I don't want to have a final score 263.7482 to 261.55. Well, I don't think it would go to the thousandth.
Starting point is 00:21:57 It would just go to the hundredth. But it would depend on what your quarterback scoring was worth. If your quarterback scoring is a point for every 20 yards, then it's easy to just stick with a tenth. But if it's one for every 25 yards, then you kind of have to go to the 100th. All right. Email of the day number two is from Malcolm. Where's Malcolm from? The middle. Can you guys spend a little time on explaining how the FAB process works, the free agent
Starting point is 00:22:18 acquisition budget, and which days should they process? Guys, give me fab in 30 seconds. It's basically like a weekly auction block where free agents on the waiver wire are available in a silent auction. Everybody's got $100 fictional dollars, $200 fictional dollars, whatever the case may be, to spend as they see fit on players that they want to add. And the hot free agents each week or every free agent each week goes to the highest bidder. So if – Well, I'll give you an example.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Did you guys in our magazine league, anybody bid on Darren McFadden? No. No? Nope. Adam, did you? No. Okay. I did.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And I don't know if – wait. Maybe not two quarterback league. I'm sorry. One of our leagues, I got McFadden for $11 out of $100 because I lost Kenneth Dixon and I lost Quincy Nunez. So I had two guys I could easily punt. This is a draft we did in what? June. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:14 So I didn't want to overspend for McFadden. I probably did, but I thought 10% right around there of my budget was worth committing to a guy who potentially could start six games or as of now starts none. But you kind of want to gauge the rest of your league comparatively to what the player's relevance is. And my preference is it runs overnight on Tuesday in the season, and that's the only time it runs. Really? I like it every night.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah, every night. I like it because I hate not having Sunday morning available. Well, if you have a commissioner like me, he'll turn Fab off on Sunday morning and let people go make ad drops. And then throughout the year, you'll have at least four different headache situations where somebody picked somebody up when they weren't supposed to because Fab wasn't turned back on. It could happen.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I'm not going to deny that. Fab's the best. It is the most fair way to do free agency. No question. All right, finally, guys, email of the day number three is from John in Seoul. Early in the draft, we had an owner nominate David Johnson for $1, and then another GM quickly bid him up to $50, and then another got David Johnson for $51.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Then the chat room started to light up, saying that David Johnson was the Steelers' tight end, David Johnson. The bids quickly stopped as everyone realized it was indeed David Johnson, the tight end for the Steelers. So someone ended up paying $51 for a worthless player. I begged the league to start the draft over, and the room was split with half agreeing with me and the other half saying it was, quote, strategy. Give us your input. I have never seen this before.
Starting point is 00:24:47 That is so awesome. Isn't it awesome? The guy who nominated him did it purposely to get the wrong David Johnson. Yes. Okay. And then somebody stupidly went from whatever the first bid was. What was the second bid? 50.
Starting point is 00:25:02 But then other people bid it up to 50. Yeah, he got outbid. $51, $53. They just see Johnson and they go crazy. I would have decided that the last guy who bid gets him for $3. So whatever is over $50. I would have just backed it out.
Starting point is 00:25:18 So if the final bid was $51, then he gets him for $1. I would have just backed it out, man. Just back it out. I would have just laughed. out, man. Like, just back it out. I would have just laughed and laughed. I think it would have been very funny. If the room is split, that's the way you settle it, is you have to give some sort of penance to the person who made the mistake. What about a penance to the guy who nominated the wrong David Johnson?
Starting point is 00:25:37 He did that on purpose. He did it on purpose. So he should lose a dollar for that. No, what? No, it worked. And his face burned off. For being A, funny, and B, smart? How is that smart?
Starting point is 00:25:47 He got his other people to spend $50. Yeah, he did. Well, you're not going to let it stand. He took $50 off the board. Half the room wanted him to let it stand. I would. But you didn't. Commissioner Eisenberg just said it's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:25:55 The schmuck who paid $53. They're both schmucks. This league is full of schmucks. I love this league. I love the guy that nominated David Johnson. Me too. A pretty schmucky move. Random question for you.
Starting point is 00:26:06 If you draft Drew Brees, should you draft a backup for week one as New Orleans is at Minnesota? Only three quarterbacks scored more than 19 fantasy points, and only one more than 22, and that was Rodgers, against Minnesota last year. Nope. If Palmer's there in the last round of the draft, I'm not going to make an effort to do it, but if Palmer's there in the last round, the draft i'm not gonna make an effort to do it but if palmer's there in the last round i'd draft him and start him over ease any quarterback that i'm drafting that early in a league i'm not taking to bench in my first fantasy game i know he's playing against minnesota i understand aaron rogers is playing seattle am i gonna go run and
Starting point is 00:26:41 hide the corner because aaron rogers is gonna see richard sherman and hide in the corner because Aaron Rodgers is going to see Richard Sherman and the Legion of Boom? I think you should go run and hide in the corner right now. I mean, no, you probably shouldn't. But Breeze isn't Rodgers, and Breeze isn't as good on the road, although this will be an indoor game. And I don't know. It's interesting. It's interesting. Okay, so let me tell you about FanDuel, and then we'll get into some divisive players like Jay Ajayi, Todd Gurley, Marshawn Lynch, DeAndre Hopkins, et cetera,
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Starting point is 00:28:15 That's FanDuel.com. The promo code is CBSPOD. Void where prohibited. All right, divisive players. Jay Ajayi is going 15th overall. RB7. That means he's the seventh running back off the board. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:28:31 One spot too low. You think he should be RB6? Yep. Okay. I think he is exactly the 15th best player in fantasy football drafts. I also have him ranked 15th overall. Me too. But i agree with jamie i'm just going to agree with everyone he's 15th overall and he's rb6 i mean at at this point the the top five running backs i think are pretty much established i don't know what's going to change that barring ezekiel elliott getting his suspension clear to the injunction whatever i
Starting point is 00:29:02 think we have different top five running but not us us. I'm saying five as a group. Okay. ADP, our rankings, however you slice them, dice them. Johnson, Le'Veon, and then some order of Gordon, McCoy, and Freeman. Exactly. I've got Freeman, McCoy, and Murray. I've got Gordon, McCoy. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I have McCoy over all those. So I think when you look at it, it's the six through eight is kind of where the next decision comes it's ajayi it's murray and it's howard and girly is in that discussion no i i think girly is probably ninth but sure he's he's in that six through ten you know you want to stretch it out to whoever the 10th best guy is so when you me, I would put Howard and Gurley next. I think it's between Ajayi and Murray. And I think Ajayi's ceiling is a little bit higher this year. Nothing to do with Murray falling off, but more Henry getting a bigger role.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Okay. Yeah, actually, Todd Gurley is the next guy, 21st overall. I think the stat is one 100-yard rushing game in his last 16 games? No, 24 games. So that's crazy. He's RB8 Todd Gurley, actually going after a Jai. I think Todd Gurley is now going ahead of Jordan Howard? Let me double check.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I have him at RB8, and I have him at number 21 overall. So there is nothing divisive about this at all. For you. Do you like Gurley better than Howard? I've got Gurley one spot ahead of Howard. My God, it's like we've completely forgotten last year. He's not going ahead of Jordan Howard. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:35 He's going ahead of Fournette. So he's RB8. He's got to be going ahead of someone else. He might be nine. I may have miscounted him. Okay. Yeah. Okay. But anyway, mid to I may have miscounted him. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:45 But anyway, mid to late second round, Todd Gurley. I've recently just – like I said last week, I had doubts about Ajay. I had doubts about Gurley. And I just decided I'm sick and tired of having doubts about running backs. These guys are going to get almost all of the touches for their team. They're going to get the goal line work. I'm tired of being so negative. So I came around on Ajayi, I came around on Gurley,
Starting point is 00:31:09 and I'm totally fine with them in round two. Do you all feel the same way? Yeah, I mean, I'm, I guess, the high guy on Ajayi. I would take him at the end of round one, depending on how running backs shook out. And I'm with you on Ajayi, and I'll take Gurley late round two, but I'm still not convinced A, that the offensive line is
Starting point is 00:31:29 much improved, and B, that Gurley himself is much improved. But don't you buy into at any stretch better coach, better quarterback, just better everything? Gaff's not going to be better this year than he was a year ago? I think he'll be nominally better, but I still think that he's going to get better.
Starting point is 00:31:48 He was in train wreck last year. He'll be better than train wreck. He'll be better if only because they are running actual offensive plays. Right. And better talent around him. Everybody doesn't do the same thing on every play. They do different types of things. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Sometimes they run this type of route. Look, I want to love Gurley. He was my number one player last year. I wanted him to be amazing. Their offense last year was super predictable. No, no, no. It's not that at all. It's not that.
Starting point is 00:32:14 You're done with him. Completely done. It is not that. No chance of reconciliation. Absolutely. I gave him the chance to reconcile. He came back to your door with flowers and chocolates. But he didn't.
Starting point is 00:32:23 He came back with a bad offensive line, and he didn't have any type of breakaway plays during the preseason. He had a couple of decent runs. Yeah, he didn't have that many carries. The backup behind him has been running better behind that same offensive line. But, Dave, he didn't even play in week three. Let me just ask this. Forget about last year.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Better offense right now. The Rams or the Bears? Rams. Rams. By far, Rams. Now, without Meredith. The Rams or the Bears? Rams. Rams. By far, Rams. Without Meredith. Blake Hall or it's the Rams? Without Meredith.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Better offensive line. It's Chicago. Based on everything. As a whole. I don't think it's that simple. As a whole, the Rams offense is better than the Bears offense. Everything. No.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Play caller. Play caller. Not offensive line. No. Offensive line. Not offensive line. Bears offensive line is better. I understand that. Bears offensive line is better. I understand that.
Starting point is 00:33:05 But when you say, here's the Rams and here's the Bears, the Rams offense is better right now going into the season than the Bears offense is going into the season. I don't know how you can argue that. If it is, it's not by much. It is by much. No, it's not. You are giving so much credit to Jared Goff for no reason whatsoever. I'm giving so much credit to Sean McVay.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I'm giving so much credit to Jared Goff. And I'm telling you that Sean McVay is a better play caller. I'm giving much. Look at the receivers. The receivers are definitely better in LA. Everything's better as a whole. But the offensive line is better. That's it. But that's a big part of it. It's a huge part of it.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I agree. I would take the Rams offense over the Bears. I don't know that it's so much leaps and bounds better. They're both in the bottom half of the NFL. You could say the Bears might have a better running back. I don't know and bounds better. They're both in the bottom half of the NFL. You could say the Bears might have a better running back. I don't know who's better. They really might.
Starting point is 00:33:53 The biggest problem with Gurley last year, well, there were a lot of big problems with him, but one of them was that he didn't run very well despite the offensive line. He missed holes. He missed opportunities. I totally agree. And now this preseason, we've seen him still miss them, and other running backs have come in, and they've played better. Malcolm Brown has played better.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Against the second and third team defense. But he's behind that same offensive line, Jamie. You should take Malcolm Brown. I'm not telling you to take Malcolm Brown. I have to just say that we didn't really see much of Gurley this preseason. He looked better in week two, and he didn't play in week three. And Brown got all the work. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I definitely get both sides of your arguments. I don't want to judge him too harshly on the preseason. And he's going to catch passes, too, because Goff is going to dump the ball off to him. But he is going like six picks. So Ajayi, I said, was seven, and Gurley was eight. Jordan Howard's still going ahead of both of them. Ajayi's eight, almost
Starting point is 00:34:42 the same as Howard. And Gurley's like six picks later at nine. But I basically am just like, look, I don't know what to expect from Fournette. I guess you can make a case for Hunt over him because at least we have more, I think, of a realistic expectation for him. But all the rookies come into play there with Gurley. I'm just going to take Gurley. Yes. I would take Gurley ahead of all the rookies as well.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Yes. All right. But I would rank it Ajayi, Howard, Gurley, and I would trust Isaiah Crowell before Todd Gurley. All right, how about Marshawn Lynch? He's moving down a little bit. He's now 37th overall. He's the 15th running back off the board.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Marshawn Lynch. He's getting more realistic. Look, if you believe in him and you want to gamble on him, at least it's falling to a spot where you can justify it more so than when he was going 24. You fell to the fifth round of our 14-team league last night. I've never been more proud of a group of podcasters. Yeah, they waited on quarterback too, which makes sense in a 14-team league.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Give me a round in a 12-team league you're all right with Marshawn Lynch. Cinco. Yep. All right. No. Just right. No. Just no. Okay. DeAndre Hopkins, now he's falling.
Starting point is 00:35:50 This guy was an early round three pick at one point. Now he's 46th overall, 15th wide receiver off the board, DeAndre Hopkins. I don't really understand. Something's not computing here. I don't think 15th overall wide receiver is really that out of line for DeAndre Hopkins, but there are a lot more than 15 wide receivers going in the first four rounds. I think it's the hand injury, the fact that we haven't seen him play. Well, actually, okay, so to clarify, Hopkins is 15th, and he's going 45th overall.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And then, so first four rounds will be the top 48 picks. There are four more receivers that come off the board. Keenan Allen, Alshon Jeffrey, three. Keenan Allen, Alshon Jeffrey, Demarius Thomas. So there are 18 wide receivers in the first four rounds. And there's a little bit of space. There's actually five picks in between Devontae Adams, wide receiver 14, and DeAndre Hopkins, wide receiver 15. So it's similar to what we saw with the difference between Jay Ajayi and Todd Gurley. Devontae Adams, Terrell Pryor, they're five, six picks ahead of DeAndre Hopkins, who's now a mid-to-late round four pick in a 12-team league. Yeah, I'm happy taking him in the third.
Starting point is 00:37:01 So I guess I'm still, and I'd rather have him than Devontae Adams. I feel the exact same way. We're talking about a guy who's going to get peppered with targets. He's got a better quarterback situation. Hopkins and Savage worked hard during the offseason together. Wait a second. Wait a second. Oh, he's got a better quarterback situation than last year?
Starting point is 00:37:19 Then he did. Then he did. Not that Devontae Adams. Of course. I'm not comparing him to Devontae Adams' quarterback. That would be stupid. But I think they're just trying to manage him along. We don't know what happened with his hand.
Starting point is 00:37:34 But, again, I've got like 24 wide receivers in my top 48. So to say that the 15th guy is going at the end of the fourth round just seems weird. All right. One more here. Tyreek Hill, 60th overall. He is the 21st wide receiver off the board. After Hopkins, Keenan Allen, Jeffrey, Demarius, Crabtree, then Kelvin Benjamin, and then nine picks later, Tyreek Hill.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Kelvin Benjamin is in that tier right now with Alshon, Demarius, Crabtree, and then it's Kelvin, and then it's Tyreek Hill, 21st wide receiver off the board. He had a terrible week three of the preseason with three drops. He did, but he still has game-breaking ability. And I think he's got a shot at having a very nice year. It's just too soon, though. Him and Benjamin, it's just too soon. Here's the thing, and I'm going to go back to the same thing I just said.
Starting point is 00:38:28 21st wide receiver off the board is too soon for Tyreek Hill. There's too many good receivers that are going after him. The end of the fifth round is fine. But those two don't really make sense in my head. I don't mind him in early round five. I think he's going to be good. I think Kansas City is going to throw plenty. I think the Spencer Ware injury could open up carries for Hill.
Starting point is 00:38:48 I would expect he's going to get 30 carries. That would be more than he got last year. I'll take the under. Okay. I think 30 is fair. Maybe 25. A couple a week. What do you have, 24 last year?
Starting point is 00:38:58 24. And let me just say this, Heath. There are almost no wide receivers going in the 50s in our ADP. It's Carlos Hyde, then Crabtree, Tevin Coleman. Well, how many quarterbacks have gone by pick 60? Four. Yeah, it's not really that out of line. There's just a lot more running backs going, I guess. Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And then this round, there are some quarterbacks. There are a few tight ends going in the 50s. Alright. Okay, so those are some divisive players. Some ADP risers. Tell me if this makes sense. Cam Newton is up nine spots.
Starting point is 00:39:32 He is now the fifth quarterback off the board, 55th overall. It's basically even, but slightly, slightly ahead of Russell Wilson. Cam Newton, a top five or six quarterback and a top 60 pick. Does that make sense? I raised him up, put him up higher in my rankings to 10. So I think there's a chance for him. I think if you've been on this bandwagon the whole offseason that he's going to have the Matt Ryan type of bounce back here, and he's certainly capable of it.
Starting point is 00:40:07 But that's just too high. Yeah, I mean, I have him sixth, but I end up with him quite a bit because in our drafts he doesn't go until 10th or 11th at quarterback. I'm not going to take anyone other than maybe, like definitely Brady and Rodgers maybe Breeze in the first five rounds. So that's just way too early. I don't get it. What's changed? We saw him play.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And he threw a touchdown pass. We knew he was going to play. There's been a lot of up and down with him with the health. Right. He threw a touchdown pass. Throwing, not throwing, practicing, not practicing. And Christian McCaffrey's looked amazing. McCaffrey has looked amazing. And Benjamin. Yeah, Benjamin's looked good. Everybody sees him scoring touchdowns in the
Starting point is 00:40:48 preseason, and that's why his ADP is up. Best set of weapons he's ever had. I do believe, though, I really do believe that he's not going to run the ball that much. You might get rushing touchdowns from Cam. I think the rushing yards will come down from what we've seen in the past, because after his concussion last year,
Starting point is 00:41:04 Cam Newton rushed for 30 or more yards four times in his final 11 games. He rushed for less than 10 yards five times. He just stopped running the ball. And I think that's – I don't know if it's going to be that bad, but I'm not counting on him to be a rushing quarterback. I think what we got from him last year is what you should expect, around 300 rushing yards and five touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:41:23 But then what do you expect passing-wise? Well, he's going to have hopefully a lot more chunk yards from short area passes if these guys, you know, we haven't seen Samuel do it yet, but if McCaffrey gets out in space and they use him right, which is what you would hope after what we've seen, then we get a little bit easier from a guy who clearly still has a cannon and can throw the ball down the field. He doesn't have that same deep threat, at least on paper.
Starting point is 00:41:49 But you have Benjamin healthy. Hopefully you're removed from the ACL. He can have a better season. Conditioning seems to be a non-issue anymore. Funchess does a little bit, even if he does what he's done the last couple years. And Olsen certainly should have a few more touchdowns from what he had a year ago. So he's not going to be the MVP cam of 2015, but he will be better than what we saw in 2016. That goes without saying.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I don't expect him to get back to the 35 passing touchdowns from two years ago. No, but if he gets you 25 passing along with five rushing, that's 30. Yeah, I think 30 and 5 is what I would go with. 30 and 5 is a pretty big year. I don't know how many yards he's going to get. 3,800. I don't feel like he gets there either. Listen, I like McCaffrey too, and I think Samuel's got a lot of potential.
Starting point is 00:42:34 But I know that that offensive line isn't great, and I'm very concerned what's going to happen to him when he starts taking hits. Schedule's amazing, though. Okay, I'll just finish with this. Would you rather have Cam Newton 55th, Ben Roethlisberger 74th overall? Whatever you're going to say later is going to be better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:52 It's too early for Cam Newton. How about these two receivers? I'm wondering if our analysts have a lot to do with this. Willie Sneed is up 10 spots. I can't imagine. He hasn't done anything. As a matter of fact, Adam, I'm finishing the ADP story right now.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I think it's still a good spot for him. 29th wide receiver, 76th overall. It is. He's been uninspiring in the preseason, which clearly makes me nervous. Jamison Crowder is also up 12 spots to 78th overall. Snead and Crowder are both going
Starting point is 00:43:24 in the top 80. They will be wide receivers 28 and 29 off the board when you take Edelman out of the equation. He's still going just ahead of them. So Snead and Crowder as top 80 picks. I think you guys are fine with that. Yeah, I try not to let the preseason change too much. All the theories that you have about him are still... It's not like somebody else has stepped up and had a great preseason
Starting point is 00:43:46 instead of Snead. Their first team offense hasn't been on the field all that much. Right. So it's not panicking. So I'm glad to see that he's rising despite his failures. The one thing that was concerning was the fact that of the two guys who they decided to play into the
Starting point is 00:44:03 fourth quarter of the second preseason game was Willie Sneed and Colby Fleener. We know what Fleener's been since he's gotten there. He's been a disappointment. And hopefully it's not making Sneed do something that he has to earn his position again or prove that he needs to be among the starting wide receivers. Are you getting nervous that he just is what he is? And I'm playing double advocate more than anything else. I mean, look, if he's – I think it's really hard to say because he was off to such a great start before the injury last year.
Starting point is 00:44:33 And if that's the guy, he could be a monster. Yeah, he was. But it's – he was put into the role Michael Thomas was put into. And then he got hurt, and then Thomas stepped up and pushed him inside. So do they have a dominant outside guy? You want to make a case for Ted Ginn? Fine. You want to make a case for Brandon Coleman? Fine. But Snead, to me, is their second-best receiver,
Starting point is 00:44:57 and they lost their second-best receiver from a year ago. Just get back to 2015, 980 yards, and have a decent touchdown year of five. That's probably about where we've got him ranked right now. If that's the expectation, that's a great get at 70th overall or whatever. 76. That's even better. Would you rather have Snead or Crowder? Crowder.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah, I'll take Crowder too. I've been in that boat even as much as I've touted Snead. Crowder's been somebody from day one. I just think there's a bigger opportunity for him. Snead would be like if Michael Thomas and Brandon Cooks left because that's where Crowder's situation is. The two guys ahead of him are gone.
Starting point is 00:45:37 And finally, Devontae Parker is up 11 spots, but surprisingly he's only five picks ahead of Kevin Hogan. Devontae Parker now 19. Kevin Hogan. Kevin Hogan. I don't think that's a good pick. Chris Hogan. Devontae Parker now 19. Kevin Hogan. Kevin Hogan. I don't think that's a good pick. Chris Hogan. This is like the David Johnson nomination thing.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Adam, what is Hulk Hogan's ADP? Wait, isn't – no, Terry. That's his name, right? Terry Hulk Hogan? Terry, yes. Yeah. What about Paul Hogan? Oh, Paul Hogan is quickly rising up the draft boards.
Starting point is 00:46:04 But Devontae Parker is wide receiver 35 right now. Do you think you could take him over Willie Sneed? No. I cannot. Parker? I would take him over Sneed. Yeah, I think you can. There's more upside.
Starting point is 00:46:17 It's close. Yeah, there's certainly more touchdown potential. He's the big outside receiver. All right, so Parker, you know. You get Parker in the 90s. He's going to keep rising probably, but 92nd overall, that's great. I took him as my flex in the 14-team league yesterday. Let's see what
Starting point is 00:46:33 overall pick that was. I believe it was 62 or 63 for you. Yeah, that sounds about right. It was the middle of round five. He went in the keeper league, so it's a little skewed, but he went in the fourth round of standard league that I did last night.
Starting point is 00:46:50 And the next wide receiver off the board after I took Parker was Pierre Garçon, and it's PPR, so I see the appeal to Garçon, but I do like Parker a lot more. I thought that he was the end of a tier. Then it was Garçon and Marshall and Emmanuel Sanders, the guys that Jamie talked about earlier when he took Zach Ertz.
Starting point is 00:47:07 But he also took Garçon one pick before Ertz. All right, good stuff. So those are some ADP risers. We'll do some ADP fallers tomorrow. Can you guys – Can I give you the team that I drafted last night to see what you think? You guys think? Sure.
Starting point is 00:47:20 12 teams? 12 teams, yeah. Half point PPR. So I started with two receivers and Julio Jones and Michael Thomas. That's a good start. Yeah, I liked it. Wait, what pick did you have? I had the fourth pick.
Starting point is 00:47:34 That's late for Michael Thomas. Yeah, it was crazy. Then in the third round, I took Kareem Hunt. Round four, Carlos Hyde. Nice, nice. Finally went tight end in the fifth round. He's favorite guy, Greg Olson. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Heath would love this, too. Sixth round, Stephon Diggs. This is the best he's ever drafted. It's pretty good. Danny Woodhead, round seven. Mm-hmm. Quarterback, finally, in round eight, Kirk Cousins. Now, imagine this.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I like that. Parker fell to round nine. Ooh. Wow. Why did you take Cousins over Parker? i just thought i needed a quarterback at this point so it was a a situation where i needed to you know lock up that i see yeah yeah yeah and so um then uh then burkhead after parker tyrell williams past defense and then Will Lutz I mean that team is amazing Kudos to the owner
Starting point is 00:48:30 Whoever that person is Man or woman Probably woman who drafted that team Oh wait Jamie you said you drafted that team Yes Clearly it can't be a woman Because there's no way that a man would draft for a woman No
Starting point is 00:48:44 A woman would be able to draft her. Oh, you guys are idiots. You guys... Wait a second. Was that her team? Yeah. I did not even realize that. Okay, okay. I did not realize that. Yeah. Because I didn't draft her team, you idiots. I did not
Starting point is 00:49:01 draft her team. I'm so tired of this crap. I deal with this crap every single year. I didn't draft her freaking team. All. I did not draft her team. I'm so tired of this crap. I deal with this crap every single year. I didn't draft her freaking team. Allie did a draft last night with her girls. It's usually a 14-team league. It was 12 teams. First of all, you said it was half PPR? That's what the message I got said.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Okay, so I already got her off to a terrible start because I told her it was full PPR. That's what I thought it was. That's pretty much the only thing I told her. I was doing our podcast league draft. Oh, no. I did not draft for her. You know what? She deserves a gold medal.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Did she host the show? She used your rankings. That might be the best draft we've seen. She drafts better teams than you do. She used your rankings. That's why she did well. Give yourselves a pat on the back. Did I give her some tips?
Starting point is 00:49:42 Yeah. Okay. Maybe you should start thinking about it. I said, if you don't take Gronkowski, then you should wait until the fifth round to take a tight end. That's probably what I told her. I gave her general advice. I said, if you don't get Rodgers or Brady, wait a long time to get a quarterback, that kind of stuff. But other than that, she just used your rankings and made her team.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I did not draft for her. I respect the league. I wouldn't do that. I'll tell you what. I am so impressed. I would like to interview her on the podcast. Yeah, that will never happen. I was trying to get her to come to Philadelphia, but she will not be able to.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Disappointing. She did a great job. She's a very good team. I'm very happy for her. Alright. Good stuff. I think it's great that those girls... You want to hear another funny thing about that draft? Sure. So during the –
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yes, Commissioner. No, I'm not. All-girls league, obviously, and the husbands are not – and the boyfriends, whatever, are not allowed to help. And something was said in the draft room that would never be said in one of my leagues. One of the girls was like, OMG, the Devil Wears Prada just started. And I was like, well, things that would never be said in my draft. Now, how would you know that? Yeah, really?
Starting point is 00:50:48 You worked in the draft room, huh? She was right next to me. We like each other's company. We were drafting next to each other. I mean, listen, that's sweet and all, but if you could see what's happening in the chat room, then presumably you could see who's available. I was following along, but I wasn't telling her who to pick. Maybe you would give her a couple of choices.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Not really. You could take Michael Thomas or Josh Scobie. I think what you need to do next year to eliminate all doubt is when the draft is scheduled, you need to leave the apartment. No, I'm not going to do that. Of course not. Maybe Allie needs to be the one to leave the apartment, just for the draft. I think that I gave her standard tips. Okay, whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:33 So what was I going to say? I have a better idea. Next year, fly me up. I'll spend the night at your place. Put me and Allie in a different room than you, and I'll make sure that you don't interfere in the draft. This has gotten awkward. Really awkward. No, no, no. I'm not trying to make it weird.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I'm just going to... Someone's got to make sure. I'll spend the night at your house. Put me and your wife in a different room. No, no, no. When the draft is over, she can go back to being with Adam. Okay, that's fine. Make up a marriage here.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Thank you. Never mind the fact that, you know... She can go back to being with Adam. Oh, okay. That's fine. Make up a marriage here. Hey, now. Thank you. Never mind the fact that, you know. From something that is funny to something that's not funny, let's do Team Name Tuesday. And by the way, we didn't have time for podcast league drafts, so we'll do that tomorrow. And tomorrow is going to be a bit of a strategy show.
Starting point is 00:52:21 So, yeah, we haven't really covered how to draft in deeper leagues. I think we'll do that tomorrow. We'll go position by position and give our thoughts on standard leagues and deeper leagues and whatnot. And then Thursday, since we're traveling to Philadelphia, what we're going to do is we're going to do a live draft today, a real draft, our Fantasy Football Today PPR draft. We're going to record that, do it on the air, and air it on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:52:43 And then Friday, you're going to hear the Philadelphia show. Team name Tuesday from Josh in the Freddie Quimby voice. It's pronounced Crowder. Stefan from Toronto has like 10 Simpsons team names. Ty Montgomery
Starting point is 00:53:02 Hearns. Jordy Nelson Puntz. You like it? I like the Montgomery Burns one. But he put Montgomery Hearns.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Yeah. Groundskeeper Willie Sneed. I like that one. That's actually good. Krusty the Jadeveon Clowney.
Starting point is 00:53:20 I like that one. Emmanuel Ned Sanders. Like Ned Flanders Yeah yeah yeah Reverend Lovejoyk Not bad
Starting point is 00:53:29 Principal Red Skinners Lenny Leonard Fournette And Michael Crab Appletree Like Crab Appletree Yeah Crab Appletree But spelled Crab Appletree Okay those are Decent
Starting point is 00:53:43 Decent This is from Matt Sergeant Pepper's Landry Ertzcob Band tree, but spelled Crab Apple Tree. Okay, those are decent. This is from Matt. Sergeant Pepper's Landry Ertz Cobb Band. Landry Ertz Cobb. Yeah, it is. But what if it were Julius Pepper's Landry Ertz Cobb Band? The effort is such an A, but the actual execution is not. Did these all come in through the email, or are some of these from Chris Tower's piece?
Starting point is 00:54:04 No, these are all from email. Because we do have the 50 best or worst. I'm not sure if it's one of those two on the website. Oh, check it out. This is from Glenn. The Hunt for Net October. I like that one. It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:54:17 It's not bad. Okay, this one I get to sing. It's from Chris. Oh, baby, you got willie sneed but what no one has any idea what that was i know exactly what that is bismarck he just a friend yeah yeah come on heath but i think i think you've got to find a player to go with the next stanza of that song hmm oh baby you got Willie Sneed, and you say he's just... What rhymes with friend? Ben.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And you say he's a tight end. No, it didn't work. No, it doesn't work. This is a Game of Thrones one from Lance. Big Ben the Knee. That's a good one. And a couple more from Alexander. I think we had this one last year.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Lacey Underalls. Which is very funny, because it's Seahawks and it's Caddyshack. Lacey Underalls. And then this one I had to Google. Sam in Denver. McCaff me outside. How about Dak? That is outstanding.
Starting point is 00:55:18 How about Dat or how about Dak? Dak. Yeah. Bonus points for the Dak. Okay. Good stuff. I had never seen that before. I don't know how, but I had never seen it before. Really. Yeah. Bonus points for the DAC. Okay, good stuff. I had never seen that before. I don't know how, but I had never seen it before.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Really? Yeah. Stop drafting for your wife and pay attention to the world. I guess so. So, some emails to finish the show at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Let me ask you real quick, a me yes or no on handcuffs, though. Did Chris Johnson lose his grip, literally with the fumbles, on the handcuff roll? In Arizona, I'd say no.
Starting point is 00:55:48 So he's still the handcuff? If you insist on carrying a handcuff for David Johnson. Don't use the word handcuff. He's the backup. But you're not drafting him. No. He's not going to do what David Johnson did. Oh, he's not?
Starting point is 00:55:59 Is Malcolm Brown the handcuff for Todd Gurley? Yes. It's Dunbar's heart. But again, I don't know if you want to carry that on your bench. The deeper the league, the more likely you might be to do it. The handcuff rule to me is like, can he be a number two running back? Yeah, I don't think either one of those guys can. Sometimes handcuffs are good.
Starting point is 00:56:20 These look good in the preseason. They can be helpful, and sometimes they just hold you down. Niall Davis. Niall Davis, is he the handcuff? He looks like he's the guy behind Le'Veon Bell this whole season. James Conner looked a little better in his second preseason game, so it could be a little messy there. Rabbit, rabbit, rabbit.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Is Matt Breida the handcuff to Carlos Hyde? Yes, for sure. For sure? For sure. More than H For sure? For sure. More than Hightower. For sure. I don't know. I still think it's Hightower.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Jamie still thinks it's Hightower. It's not Joe Williams, for sure. It is not Joe Williams. Emails. Email from Bryce. Where's he from? He is from Costa Mesa, California. Dear Mean Joe, LC, Ernie, and Dwight.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Steelers? Are you guys nuts? Yeah. Yeah, okay. I have a question about how to apply Heath's nips to a 16-team league. I was picking the 11th spot, half PPR. I kept Heath's nips on my mind throughout the draft. I found out a few rounds into the draft that my league mates were reaching like crazy on running backs,
Starting point is 00:57:24 and I told myself, let them do it. Value in other positions will fall to you. Just take the best player available. Long story short, my running backs are Bilal Powell and Darren McFadden. Did I screw up? No, it's zero RB. Yeah, you might have waited a round or two too long looking at, like, you've got Powell, McFadadden, Dion Lewis, Tim Hightower, Devontae Booker, and Orleans Darkwa. Yeah, that depth really sucks, dude.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah, but that's what happens in 16-team leagues. You've also got Tom Brady, Jordy Nelson, Brandon Cooks, Willie Sneed. You might be making a deal. I think that best player available is a nice strategy. I do think you have to adjust a little bit to what your league does. Well, yes, and my no intentional positional strategy is not best player available. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying you don't set your strategy until you see what everyone else is doing.
Starting point is 00:58:16 All right. This is from No Name or City. Give me one, guys. Hans from Berlin, Germany. Okay, Hans from Berlin wants a grade in a 10-team PPR league, third pick. I'm not going to do many of these, but I'll do some. Are you okay with this team? Antonio Brown, Doug Baldwin, Lamar Miller, Dalvin Cook, Golden Tate,
Starting point is 00:58:40 CJ Anderson, Delaney Walker, and Jameis Winston. That's the starting lineup. The bench is good, too. So Jameis, Lamar Miller, Dalvin Cook, C.J. Anderson, Antonio Brown, Doug Baldwin, Golden Tate. You're selling the bench way short. He's got Doug Martin, Jamison Crowder, Phillip Rivers, and Willie Sneed. All right, it is a 10-team league.
Starting point is 00:59:01 What do you think? Lamar Miller and Dalvin Cook. I love the depth. The depth is so good. You kind of do a double take on the running backs, but I think by the time Doug Martin comes back, he'll be A-OK. C-. No.
Starting point is 00:59:12 You don't have a top-ten quarterback. You don't have a top-ten tight end. He's got a top-ten quarterback. Jameis will finish as a top-ten quarterback. And it's a full PPR? What do you think? What do you think? Give this man a B-plus and a vanilla ice cream cone.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Joey in Las Vegas, which late round flyer do you like the most or flyers? Zay Jones, Thomas Rawls, Deontay Foreman, Jack Doyle. Zay Jones, Thomas Rawls, Foreman, Doyle. If I had to rank them, it would be Rawls. Ooh, I don't know how I'd sort them out between those guys. Just as far as late-round flyers go with high upside, Foreman could be up there, then Jones, then Doyle. But I like them all. I think they all have a place in a fantasy league.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah, I'd go Rawls, Jones, Foreman, Doyle. Jared from the home of Walmart. I grabbed— Arkansas. Yep. home of Walmart. I grabbed... Arkansas. Yep. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. I grabbed Gurley, Murray, Gillisley, and C.J. Anderson.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I really wanted Doug Martin, but he went for too much money. So I have Gurley, DeMarco Murray, Gillisley, and C.J. Anderson. I have been offered Doug Martin and Amir Abdullah for Todd Gurley. Would you do that? Nope. Yeah, I don't think I would either.ley. Would you do that? Nope. Yeah, I don't think I would either. Stick with what you got good running backs. And give me a one-word answer, guys.
Starting point is 01:00:31 This is from Richard Hong in California. Who's got the most upside? Marquise Goodwin, Ardarius Stewart, Kendall Wright, or Curtis Samuel? Wright. Wright. Wright. God, it feels so wrong to say Wright. But it's Wright.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I got him in the 14th round of our 14-team league last night. And how'd you feel about that? Really pretty good. You didn't feel all right about it? I felt right. It felt right. Well, that was a fun show, and tomorrow we'll talk some strategy. We'll update you on Ezekiel Elliott, hopefully.
Starting point is 01:00:57 We'll have a lot more for you. Thanks for listening, everybody. This is Fantasy Football Today. Talk to you tomorrow. Bye. football today. Talk to you tomorrow.

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