Fantasy Football Today - 09/02: Updated Rankings and ADP; League Winners in Each Round (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 2, 2019

So much to catch up on from the weekend. Now that Dave, Jamey and Heath are all on the show we can debate the trending players like Duke Johnson and Damien Williams. But first, when should you draft Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard (0:40)? ... Is anyone downgrading DeAndre Hopkins (8:00)? How are we feeling about Will Fuller now? And then let's talk about Damien Williams (13:40) and when to take him as the guys have different takes on the KC backfield ... Duke Johnson or Devin Singletary (24:00)? And then we review the ADP for all of the players affected by recent cuts or trades. Plus Twitter polls (38:30) more news and notes (42:00) as we discuss Melvin Gordon, A.J. Green and Leonard Fournette, players we are feeling better or worse about over the last few days (50:00) and league winners in the first six rounds of your draft (53:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome to your Monday morning Labor Day edition of the Fantasy Football Today podcast.

I am Adam Azer, and I am joined by my three best friends, Dave Richard, Jamie Isenberg, Heath Cummings. Everyone's here. They're all up in Connecticut doing HQ out of the Stanford studio this week, so I'll tell you about that in a bit. But, guys, let's say you're drafting tonight, and I'm sure maybe all of you are drafting tonight. I'm sure at least one of you is.

When are you going to draft Ezekiel Elliott? Or, you know what, not tonight. Let's say you're drafting right now, and he hasn't signed his contract is. When are you going to draft Ezekiel Elliott? Or you know what? Not tonight. Let's say you're drafting right now and he hasn't signed his contract yet. When are you going to draft Zeke? Not first overall. Not second overall. Not third overall. Fourth overall.

Why? Because it sounds like he's going to sign pretty soon. So why four? He wasn't four for you before this stuff. It still only sounds like. We don't know if he's playing week one. I also don't know if he's playing week one. Okay. I also don't know if he's going to play week one even if he does sign. Really?

Yeah. Jerry Jones kind of hinted at this. He said that he expects him to miss a couple of games at this point. And when you stop and think about it, it makes sense. They're about to make him, let's just say, the highest paid running back in NFL history. Do you really want to rush him back on the field and open him up to a small, medium injury if he's only getting a couple of days to practice after sitting out a month? Well, especially since we saw it with college football over the weekend.

Most of these big programs, like the Cowboys, start off with a couple of 1AA opponents in the first couple of weeks. And that's what the Cowboys are doing. That's what the Florida Gators did. I mean, it's... I hate him. It should be easy

to win without Zeke. Heath, I'm offended by that. Don't devalue Florida's win. Right. You're cheapening their schedule. You earned it. You earned it, Heath. Way to go.

Jamie, when would you take Ezekiel Elliott? Fourth. Okay. But you can kind of understand what I'm saying. If you guys are willing to take him fourth, then why not just – because I feel like before this whole holdout thing, he was higher than fourth. So if you're willing to take him fourth, why not just move him back to where he was before? I could see third and none.

Yeah, I'm still taking the other three guys just because my fear it's always been this with holdouts that there's going to be some setback because of something soft tissue related. Hamstring, calf, whatever the case may be. Hopefully that's not the case because he's been working out in Cabo with Marshall Falk, which I can't. That's great. I can't

think of a better training regimen for any NFL player than working out in Cabo. Hopefully he's fine. Hopefully there's no issues. i agree with dave i don't think we're gonna see him in week one um even if he signs you know the the day for for me for having him in week one would be wednesday he's got to be in the facility by wednesday going through practice then i think you see him week one because i don't think they're gonna like to dave's point risk him going out there and uh and doing damage for what the investment they're about to make.

Not only that, but obviously for what they're going to use from him for the season. Okay, cool. So do you still draft Tony Pollard? And when do you draft Tony Pollard? Are you only the Zeke owner if you're drafting Tony Pollard? I don't think it's a bad idea to draft Pollard two or three rounds later than he was going, which was anywhere around 8 through 10, depending on how your league was viewing him. So as early, I think, as round 10 or 11, and anywhere after that is fine.

Yeah, I've got him in the round 11, round 12 range. There's a lot of young, exciting backup running backs. I would take him behind Justice Hill still but i'd probably take i think i'd take him before darwin uh i'd take darwin ahead of him but they're both like right on the round 10 11 fence for me this is the best news of all if you're going to take zeke in round one before i was talking about you got to take tony pollard in round eight you got to lock him up now i don't think as many other fantasy managers are going to take a chance on Pollard in that round nine range. So you can wait a little bit longer to get him and you can start him week one because that matchup against the Giants is going to be sweet.

Maybe you could start a week one. Let's not. It's not an absolute. Obviously, as of now, you're definitely starting in week one. If he's the starter, he's a top 12 running. If he's the starter. Yeah. I mean, running back. If he's the starter, yeah. I mean, this could be – they've taken steps to upgrade their run defense. They drafted Dexter Lawrence, but gosh, the Giants were –

I think they're just going to have one of the worst defenses in football. So this could be a great situation for Pollard. But don't draft him thinking, I've got my week one starter because we don't know if Zeke's playing right now, but obviously it's a possibility. And then last question, I'll just wrap up the Cowboys here. Then obviously we're going to talk about everything we talked about in the two bonus episodes, but obviously it's a possibility. And then last question, I'll just wrap up the Cowboys here. Then obviously we're going to talk about everything we talked about in the two

bonus episodes, but we'll do it again and put a little bow on it. Do you think Tony Pollard has a role in a way that we've never seen a second running back have with Ezekiel Elliott on the Cowboys? Yes.

I'm trying to think how many touches the number two back got last year. Because I don't really think he's going to have a fantasy-relevant role by any stretch. Right. But five touches per game? So Rod Smith had 53 touches last year, which is almost four per game oh my gosh that's that's incredible that's incredible so maybe a better question is if it's not fantasy relevant do you think that zeke who was on pace in the 16 games of the in the games with amari

cooper when he started really catching the ball a lot, he was on pace for like 430 touches, which is just insane. Do you think he's going to be on a 350-touch pace, Ezekiel Elliott? Oh, yeah. Okay. 400 touches? No. Not quite. All right.

So he's still going to lead the league in touches per game. Unless Leonard Fournette plays 16 games. All right, cool. Today on the show, we are going to go over all the news from over the weekend. I don't know if you heard the bonus episodes. I don't know if you like the bonus episodes. It's kind of a new thing, right? I don't want to kind of throw a whole bunch of shows in your feed and annoy you.

I don't know how people listen to podcasts exactly. Can I make a guess? Probably with the sound on. I would assume everyone's going to email and tweet you now saying adam you can never give us too many podcasts well you know that's so here's the here's my concern right because most people are still listening on apple although i know we're transitioning to spotify and in the cast box and all these other stitcher all these great apps um you know apple it seems like the episode listing it's not my favorite so i worry

that some episodes get buried when I publish like a bonus episode. You might miss something. You might miss the Chris Harris IDP episode. But look, I saw the download numbers. A lot of people obviously listened to what we did on Saturday with Ben Gretsch. And then which some of it was quickly outdated because LaShawn McCoy signed with the Chiefs on Sunday. So we recorded one with Dave. But if you missed any of that, I hope it was helpful if you heard it.

If you missed it, we'll go over everything today. We'll talk about when these guys should be drafted, when they are being drafted based on yesterday on NFC. So anyway, that's coming up. Plus, if we have time, we're going to go through each round and talk about league winners,

who could win you your league in each round, and a little bit of week one talk, some week one streamers. Which of the quarterbacks in the Jets-Bills game is a better streamer this week? Is Matthew Stafford worth streaming? We'll talk about that. All right, and today's sponsors are FanDuel.

Go to fanduel.com slash FFT, and Lightstream, lightstream.com slash FFT. Get a credit card consolidation loan at a great price. If Vandal's starting up, I've already got a week one lineup set. I'm going to make a few more. All right, so Twitter poll on DeAndre Hopkins. I said, how concerned are you about DeAndre Hopkins

after the Kenny Stills acquisition? Let me just get the exact wording up. Not at all. Slightly concerned. Medium concerned. And in all caps, very freaking concerned. And not at all. It's running away with it with 89% of the votes so far.

About 2,300 votes. A fresh Twitter poll out there. Oh, that's a good response. That's good. I like that. So nobody's concerned. Very few people are concerned. How about you guys?

Are you concerned about DeAndre Hopkins at all? Are you dropping him at all? No. No way. He is down a couple of spots. Concerned is the wrong word. I've got him still catching 100 passes for 1,400 yards. But he did drop a couple of spots in my rankings

because it was very, very close at the top between him and Julio and Juju. I that kenny's still signing makes it less likely that we have a stretch where either kiki or fuller or both are injured and hopkins is seeing 35 to 40 percent of the team's targets and that was just enough for me to lower him below those guys but he's still outstanding he's still right in the same tier and i still understand if you want to take him fifth overall. QT's already hurt, and Stills could replace him in the slot, but ultimately, I think the Dolphins made it

a condition on trading Tunsell because Stills had some things to say about the Dolphins owner that weren't very flattering. So I almost wonder if the Dolphins said, okay, you want to make a deal for Tunsell, you also have to take Kenny Stills off our team too. And if you're the Texans, you're thrilled about that. Sure.

Oh, yeah. Kenny Stills is very good. Yeah. So, Heath, we talked about this on HQ yesterday. And by the way, CBS Sports HQ, watch Fantasy Football today, live, noon Eastern, all week. And then three hours before kickoff on Sunday, CBS Sports HQ, all the fantasy football coverage and gambling coverage at times that you can handle. And I made Adam

so mad. Why? You know with my Kenny Stills Will Fuller take. What a stupid thing. What did you say? That they're the same guy? Yes. No. In a vacuum, like just in a vacuum, Kenny Stills is currently a better NFL receiver than Will Fuller. No, he isn't. He is. How could you say that? First off— A more accomplished receiver?

Sure. He's had like five more years. Step one, he's a more available receiver. What's the best ability? Will Fuller's going to play in week one. Have you not seen this? Will Fuller is playing in week one. Stop acting like he's hurt.

He's not hurt. He's playing. No, he's not hurt yet. Are you acting like Will Fuller is not injury prone? You know what? No, I'm not. He's injury prone, but he's playing. He's playing week one. How many games are you going to project

him for? 13. Okay. And he'll still put up better numbers than Kenny Stills. He'll still put up better numbers than Kenny Stills. In 13 games? He better. He will. Well, I mean, now we get the same... There's no... Okay, this guy is this quarterback.

This guy's got this circumstance. You're going to find out? Right. You're going to find out really quick? Let's see if he can break that 700-yard barrier. Yeah, well, he was on pace for more than 1,000 yards, and Kenny Stills has never done that. So I just think, like, I don't.

Kenny Stills is a good player. Will Fuller is a better version of Kenny Stills. I don't want to keep mentioning this, but on the radio show that we do on Saturday night, I talked to Brian T. Smith from the Chronicle, and I asked him, is Will Fuller going to be the second best wide receiver on the Texans? And he said, if he's healthy, not even a question. As many times as you've told me that you talked to Brian T. Smith,

I was wondering if you mentioned to Brian T. Smith that you met Bill Clinton. I don't think I told the football audience that I met Bill Clinton, but I met Bill Clinton. It was a pretty amazing moment. You know what's funny is that I did a segment of the radio show with Adam, and I know that he was talking to me. Yeah, no, it was important. It was a big moment for me. It was right behind Clinton. First off, you didn't even say goodbye to me.

You kicked me off the show before I could even say goodbye to you. Goodbye, Dan. First off, you didn't even say goodbye to me. You kicked me off the show before I could even say goodbye to you. And then you talked about Brian T. Smith. I thought it was like a relative of yours, the way you were speaking about it. All right, all right. He's my cousin. Geez. I'm trying to pump him up and get his Twitter. By the way, that was not a political thing at all.

It was just any president. I don't know if you've ever met a president. To me, it was pretty amazing. Okay, moving on. Sorry, you got to be careful this day and age. So DeAndre Hopkins on the NFFC draft, still going fifth. Heath, I think you're crazy for downgrading him. But I just tried to troll you a little bit.

I've had Juju projected as my number one receiver for most of the summer, so I'm fine with that troll you a little bit. I've had Juju projected as my number one receiver for most of the summer, so I'm fine with that. Okay. All right. I guess let's wrap up the Texans wide receivers. Who do you think Kenny Stills hurts, if anyone? QT. The most, I would say, like, I don't know that QT really needs to be drafted

other than I want to draft him and hold him and hope something happens. But you could say the same thing about Stills. Fuller needs to be dropped down a little bit, for sure. Yes. I'm not convinced that Stills is going to be a big factor. Yeah, it's tough to join a new team and thrive. I know Amari Cooper did it, but Kelvin Benjamin did not. Golden Tate was awful.

But he's not being asked to lead this receiving corps by any stretch. No, but neither was Golden Tate. Right, so he's going to be a complementary player in the offense, which isn't going to necessarily mean good things in fantasy. Last year he was a key player in the Dolphins offense, and he only had five games with double-digit PPR fantasy points. He had Adam Atherton throwing him the ball. I know.

But he's going to be no better. The only way he'll be the number two receiver in this offense is when Fuller and QT are both hurt. He had Adam Azer throwing him the ball, yet that same Adam Azer is now on the Titans, and you're begging for him to take over for Mariota, so your Corey Davis sleeper pick can look good. I'm not begging for that at all.

Mariota's a lot better than Ryan Tannehill. Okay, I don't know if he is a thrower. All right, so let's go to Damian Williams. Let's go to the Chiefs situation here, and here's what I'm going begging for that at all. Mario does a lot better than Ryan Tannehill. Okay, I don't know if he is a thrower. All right, so let's go to Damian Williams. Let's go to the Chiefs situation here, and here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to call out names as they appear on the draft board, and you stop me when you would take Damian Williams over this player. All right, here we go. What format are we in?

I'll go full PPR. Okay. Todd Gurley. Leonard Fournette. Chris Carson. Devante Freeman. Josh Jacobs. Mark Ingram.

Stop. You'd take Damian Williams over Mark Ingram? I would. Okay. David Montgomery. Stop. Dave, you could already stop. Oh, okay.

I'm waiting for J.B. Dave, you could already stop. Oh, okay. I'm waiting for J.B. and Heath. Aaron Jones. Marlon Mack. Tevin Coleman. James White. Stop. Stop.

Wow, you guys are taking Marlon Mack over Damian Williams in PPR? Absolutely. Wow. It's like there were a couple of names. I didn't stop you there because there are a couple of names that are being drafted before I think they should be in PPR, but I knew what range of ADP they were going, and I wouldn't draft Damian Williams at that range of ADP, so I didn't say stop.

So I didn't really participate in your game the way I was supposed to, but there were also names that haven't been said yet that I would take over Damian Williams. Such as? And full PPR, Tariq Cohen, and also Phillip Lindsay. Okay, this is really interesting. All right, let's get into it here. How are you guys feeling about Damian Williams? Dave is apparently higher on Damian Williams than Heath and Jamie are.

And Jamie, I think you're the only one that I haven't heard from because I talked to Heath about it on HQ. I talked to Dave about it on this podcast on Sunday. So I'll let you start with your thoughts on LeSean McCoy signing with Kansas City and what it means. I mean, it stinks. Obviously, Damian Williams looked like he was going to be the full-time starter. He should still be the starter, but this is going to be a timeshare. You don't bring McCoy in for the money that they're paying him,

which is $2.5 million more guaranteed money than they gave Damian Williams in December. So it's Andy Reid getting a guy that he's comfortable with, and he's going to use him. And he's still going to use Darwin Thompson too. He's probably better than both of them. Oh, okay. Heath, Dave? I have a similar opinion to Jamie.

I think Dave, we're right back to where we were six months ago when we first released rankings, and Dave was the high guy and the true believer in Damian Williams. So Dave's rehearsed this well. He is ready. Yeah, Dave, go ahead. Yeah, so I didn't get the memo that LaShawn McCoy was a good running back and that Damian Williams did something wrong to lose the starting job.

Is he going to lose touches? There's no doubt about it. And Andy Reid has built in trust with LaShawn McCoy. He remembers him from his days in Philadelphia. It all makes sense. But Damian Williams, he looked good in the very limited time that we saw him in the preseason. I just think that he's going to be the primary guy.

What? Then why do this? Why do what? Why go spend money on a guy? Because they wanted to get another running back that they trusted. I think this speaks more to how they feel about Darwin Thompson and Daryl Williams than it does Damian Williams. I don't know.

Because they got rid of Carlos Hyde. I think it speaks volumes to how they feel about all these guys. I think they would have brought in another running back much earlier in the process if they didn't trust David Williams. He wasn't available. LeSean McCoy wasn't, but they had the whole NFL draft to go and get another running back. And they did. They had limited capital. They got a six-round pick with Darwin Thompson.

They had no first-round pick. So what are they going to do? There are limited options. They had a second-round pick, a third-round pick. They could have signed somebody in free agency. And they got the guy that they wanted in the sixth round. They did get a guy that they wanted. Well, you think they liked him as a second-round grade, though?

I think LaShawn McCoy is going to wipe out Darwin Thompson. I think he's going to make it annoying for both those guys. I think Damian Williams is going to be the easy passing downs guy and short yardage guy and starter. The short yardage is the question mark, I think. That's the big one. You're going to give that to LaShawn McCoy? I don't know why.

Dave, this is what I said yesterday on the show. He's got 17 touchdowns out of LaShawn McCoy. I don't really care how good LaShawn McCoy is right now. It doesn't matter. That's the argument we made for Damian Williams. We're like, well, we've only seen half a season of 27-year-old Damian Williams, the guy starting running back. We're not sure how good he is, but it doesn't matter because it's Kansas City.

If Andy Reid trusts LaShawn McCoy and thinks that he's good enough to give the ball to, that system is going to be good enough to make LaShawn McCoy look good. I put up a Twitter poll yesterday, and I'm not sure that—I think that we would all agree on this, but it's just a hypothetical. Andy Reid, for whatever reason, maybe Damian Williams pulls a hamstring, maybe Andy Reid just decides this, but Andy Reid decides, you know what, LaShawn McCoy is my starting running back, and I'm going to give LaShawn McCoy 15, 17 touches a game. Where

do you think LaShawn McCoy finishes if he gets 17 touches a game? And plays 16 games? Yeah. Top 20 running backs. 15 games. Oh my god, if he plays 15 games. Oh, top 10. He's probably a top 5 running back. Sure. Maybe. But top 10, sure. Only 29% of people said top 10.

But the point is that I don't think it's a situation where they give LaShawn McCoy seven or eight touches in week one, and he's going to look bad. It's hard to look bad in this system. Which is why I think Damian Williams still carries the most value because I think he's going to get more touches. He absolutely does carry the most value. But it's comparing him to those other guys, and he loses value significantly compared to all of them. Every single one. Unless Dave thinks that Latron McCoy is... I think a lot of the other running backs that we're talking about

are going to share just as much as he is, if not more. And he's on the better offense. So when we're talking about him and lining him up versus Mark Ingram, David Montgomery, Philip Lindsay, Lindsay's going to share with two guys, and his offense sucks. So I'm taking Damian Williams ahead of him every single time. Now, I'm not reaching for him.

Again, let's go back to the full circle thought. Damian Williams at one point was a second-round running back for me. Now I see his ADP sliding into round four. I like that. I'm going to get him in round four. I don't even think he's worth a round three pick. But I do think that he's going to be significantly better than LaShawn McCoy. And I think he'll be, I think he'll be thrilled drafting him in round four.

And if you've already drafted Damian Williams, don't be shy about, um, starting him as a number two running back this week. I'm fine. I don't necessarily disagree with the problem for me. And we talked about this yesterday when somebody was asking about LaShawn McCoy fab on Twitter, and Dave and I had pretty different answers on that as well. Ben Gretsch has talked about how we don't deal with uncertainty very well. And there is a huge amount of uncertainty right now with the Kansas City running backs.

I think the range of possibilities for Williams, for McCoy, and even for Darwin Thompson is really hard to kind of deal with. And so I'm more willing to spend more to go get McCoy just on the chance that if he does get the chance, he's probably going to be a star. Not to send this whole conversation on a major tangent, but we're talking about fantasy football running backs. They all have uncertainty. But there's a lot more in Kansas City

after this acquisition than there was. Compared to the Giants? Compared to Kansas City on Friday. I guess, yeah. There is. Because you're adding a whole other body in there. Like, almost every running back in the top 20. For me.

I think there's more uncertainty. I think that's fair.. I think that's fair. And I think if you look at Damian Williams and the carries that he had in the last six games of the season, including the postseason, and that's when he really started erupting, he only had one game with more than 13 carries. He had 8, 10, 13, 11, 10, and 25.

So that's an average of 12.8 per game. That's a pace of 205. But, you know, it's less than 12.8 if you get the 25. So that's an average of 12.8 per game. That's a pace of 205. But it's less than 12.8 if you get the 25 carries out of there. I mean, I don't know if he should, but for the most part, he was like an 11 carry guy. And the catches, he was on pace for 64 catches. He was getting five or more catches fairly routinely, which is great. So do you see a scenario where he's getting 17 touches a game, Damian Williams? Yeah. No.

Not if everybody's healthy. Like I could see a scenario, but I don't expect that. Yeah, I wonder. Man, I do wonder how it's going to shape up, but if we let Damian Williams fall too far and the Sean McCoy, who is 31, has averaged a career low in yards per carry two straight seasons.

And gets hurt. Got hurt a lot last year. How many times did he limp off the field? He's been doing it for the last five years. Happens all the time. That's kind of what I'm thinking, but obviously there's so much downside. So Dave's comfortable with Damian Williams in round four.

Heath and Jamie, how about you guys? Five. Round five in non-PPR, I'd be okay with round four in PPR. Okay, yeah. And you've got to figure his value is going to be pretty different in PPR and non-PPR. I will ask you about LeSean McCoy, Duke Johnson, Carlos Hyde. When you're going to take these guys and anything else. Oh, Heath has Kenyon Drake ranked ahead of Damian Williams.

We need to talk about that. And is that in both formats, in all formats, or just PPR? I would actually be okay if the Dolphins tried to trade for LaShawn McCoy and make him an offensive lineman because their line is so bad. Okay, we'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. They are officially the best at tanking that I've ever seen. Yeah, you're obviously not a Knicks fan. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football Today.

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So Duke Johnson's obviously going ahead of Carlos Hyde, of LaShawn McCoy. But let's do a Duke Johnson-Devin Singletary debate here, guys. And how do you feel about those two? I prefer Duke Johnson in both formats. I don't know that there's really going to be a big difference in the number of touches that these two backs get i think duke johnson's a very talented back i expect a higher percentage of his touches to be catches those are more valuable um duke johnson's a just borderline top 30 running back for me

and single terry is more in the uh low end number three high end number four range i'm just not convinced like we talked about it yesterday adam i i think frank gore is probably the starting running back week one tj yeldon's still there and a pretty good pass catching back i'm not convinced that devin singletary has a huge workload until mid-year i i disagree i think that they got rid of leshawn mccoy specifically because Devin Singletary. The coaches were comfortable with Devin Singletary in all facets of the game. I don't know if he's going to – he won't be the starter. I think that makes sense.

But once he starts making plays in September, he's going to get rushed into the field in a pretty big role. I'll still take Duke in PPR. I think the catches will favor him. And I didn't move Duke Johnson down at all because I figured that the Texans would go and get somebody to take some work off his plate. So now we know how the Texans sort of view Duke Johnson. And non-PPR, I'll take Singletary. I think that there's a lot more upside. And what I keep thinking about is, what is the difference between Miles Sanders and Devin Singletary? The Eagles are good yeah that's why i have sanders ranked higher but they're almost in the exact same situation where they're going to begin the year sharing carries with running backs that we look at and go ew and then

we expect them to break away from the ew running backs and become capable starters for our team so i've got i've got singletary rightletary right behind Sanders as a number three fantasy running back high end in non-PPR and closer to mid-pack number three running back in full PPR. Can I just ask, what about half PPR? Who would you take, Duke or Singletary? Duke for me in all formats. Probably Duke.

All right, Jamie, where do you come out on this? Similar. I think Duke's in a better situation just given who he's sharing with, what the offense is. I do think that Singletary is going to eventually take over the role. I think the Miles Sanders comparison is fantastic because both guys are probably going to be having

to sort of prove themselves early in the year, and then both guys can show that they're the best talent on their rosters. It was always going to be a timeshare in Buffalo, no matter who was going to be the three main guys. I think a lot of us probably figured they were going to get rid of TJ Yeldon, not McCoy. So just looking at it from Singletary's standpoint, Yeldon probably has a little bit of a lead on the passing downs role.

Gore has a little bit of a lead on the rushing downs role. Not to say that they're better than Singletary by any stretch, but the Texans bringing in Carlos Hyde is, I think, a needed move, but I don't think he's going to kick Duke Johnson off the field. I think this is going to be a career year for Duke Johnson. All right, so Singletary in NFFC drafts just from yesterday, basically. Singletary is now going 79th overall, just before Darius Geis, just after Kenyon Drake and Tariq Cohen,

and not really that close to Miles Sanders. He's 16 picks behind Miles Sanders. Duke Johnson is going 62nd overall. And I don't know if – I don't know. I'm not really too familiar, guys, with NFFC, but I don't know that this has like a PPR. This might be just all their drafts. I'm not sure about the format.

Or are they all PPR? I think that's all their drafts, but I think a vast majority are PPR. Maybe all. Okay. So what do you think about these ADPs? Duke Johnson, 63rd overall, beginning of round six, just ahead of Austin Eckler and Miles Sanders. Perfect.

A little too soon. Right where he belongs of Austin Eckler and Miles Sanders. Perfect. A little too soon. Right where he belongs. Yeah, I agree with you. Perfect. Okay, would you take Eckler, Sanders, or Duke? Sanders, Eckler, Duke. Duke, Eckler, Sanders. Eckler, Duke, Sanders.

Wait, PPR? Yeah, yeah. Duke, Eckler, Sanders. Okay. A big drop between Duke and Eckler to Sanders. Singletary, 78th overall after Kenyon Drake and before Latavius Murray and Darius Geis. I think that's perfect.

79th overall, actually. Okay. That's a little early for me in PPR, but probably right about where I have him with the running backs. I think there's just a group of wide receivers that I prefer. But is he going before rashad penny yes uh he should i'd be stunned if he i've got penny yes well ahead of rashad penny in nffc this is you know this is pretty incomplete data but it's the best we can do because you can't look at season-long adP with these guys. Their values have changed so much.

So 79th overall for Devin Singletary. You know, I think I like that value. I think I'd go. Like, I would take him over to Recon. I would. I mean, certainly in non-PPR. Would you do that, Heath? I'd take both these guys over to Recon. Like, in non-PPR, I don't really have any interest in to Recon.

But obviously, I think I'm the low guy on Cohen. But in half PPR, who are you taking, Singletary or Cohen? Singletary. Cohen. Dave, you're taking Singletary. How about full PPR, Singletary or Cohen? Cohen. Singletary.

Singletary. There's upside with Singletary when he just wins that job. Is there upside with Cohen, too? Yeah, is there like top 12 in PPR upside? Yes, there is. Yes, we've seen Frank Gore limp off the field once already this preseason. Maybe he is mortal after all. And maybe Singletary just falls into a big workload with a lot of catches.

Hey, I have a question thinking about this. When was the last time a, and I don't know the answer, honestly, the last time a true pass-catching running back who doesn't get a lot of carries had two really good fantasy seasons in a row? I just feel like it never happens, whether it's injury with Chris Thompson and Shane Breen. Okay, so does James White qualify? I don't think he had two in a row. Well, the year before last, he was not bad.

I can tell you where he finished in. In PPR, the year before last, James White was... Before you even say this, do you really feel like James White was like a roster stalwart, like a fantasy starter two years ago? Right. It just doesn't happen very often. Duke Johnson went from being a top 12 or a top 15 PPR guy to not at all. So it just, Shane Vereen, Chris Thompson, and some of it's been injury,

and that's just fluky. Like, I think Chris Thompson probably would have been able to do it. I think Shane Vereen probably would have been able to do it. But these pass-catching running backs, I don't know, man. It just feels like Deion Lewis. I just feel like it doesn't happen two years in a row. And it's hard to expect it for the two guys this year in terms of White and

Cohen because both backfields added guys. Yeah, and again, I want to be clear here. I'm not expecting Tariq Cohen to do what he did last year. I don't have him ranked in the top 12. Yeah, but do you have him ranked in the top

20? 21 in PPR okay all right no totally reasonable totally reasonable just something i sort of noticed uh all right and then what else let's see where the sean mccoy is going the sean mccoy is 96th wow so that's just ahead of daryl henderson and rashad penny and after matt br. Like a round later than Breida. 96th for McCoy. I think that's later than where Darwin Thompson was going. In recent drafts. That's the end of round 8.

Darwin Thompson was going in round 8. And most drafts were 9. He went in round 7 in one of the drafts I was in. I've got McCoy just a touch higher than that. But I've got him in round 8. I think that's where he belongs. Listen. Because he looked like a slug last year. And because he's older. than that but I've got him in round eight I think that's where he belongs that listen it's what it he's because he looked like a slug last year and because he's older people don't view him in the

same way but it's very similar to what we were saying about Singletary it's very similar to like the Justin Jackson it's a lot of these younger upside running back I think it's similar to Singletary McCoy could be a top five back this year. McCoy could be not worth rostering after four weeks, but I want to see. I agree with the round eight range. This one I just don't really believe. This is why I'm a little skeptical of all this ADP, but

Carlos Hyde, 148th overall. You've got to take Carlos Hyde. I just think there's a lot of people that don't want anything to do with Carlos Hyde. I'm not sure that I think that's really that great of a deal. That's good because then it gives me faith

in the ADP, I guess. I've got him in the 130s. I've got him in the 160s. Wow. I don't like Carlos Hyde, but he could fall into the end zone, couldn't he? Wouldn't you expect him to get the short yardage work if anybody got it? He might score four or five touchdowns this year.

And this could change this year as well, but how many touchdowns have been available to running backs in Houston the last three years? No, Lamar Miller has had, like, each of the last two years, he's had, like, five or fewer carries inside the five. So it's just he doesn't score touchdowns, and that is certainly a consideration. But a lot of people have said, and I get this,

Carlos Hyde and Duke Johnson were on the same team last year, and Carlos Hyde played ahead of Duke Johnson. Why wouldn't it be the same this year? What is your response to that? It's a different coaching staff and a different offense. Hugh Jackson is not coaching the Texans. He's next, though. That's who they're going to go get.

Try and get the complete set of Browns running back. I have Hyde projected over in terms of carries with more than Duke. I wonder if they're going to call the Browns and say, hey, can we get Nick Chubb too? What will that cost us? Maybe they'll give up three first-round picks for him after they give up two first-round picks for Tunsell. I'm going to try to look up

Will Fuller's average draft position on CBS real quick, but I can tell you on NFFC, just from yesterday, Will Fuller is going 75th overall in between Robbie Anderson and Curtis Samuel at 79th as the next wide receiver. So I don't feel like that's too different from where he was going. Robbie Anderson, Will Fuller, Curtis Samuel, Sammy Watkins,

that's the range right now for Fuller. Give me all of those guys over Fuller. And many more. And that is pretty similar to... Well, no, he's going lower than that on CBS, 89th overall. Robbie Anderson going 87th overall on CBS. That's pretty good. Those are both good deals.

Well, I think the NFC numbers you're looking at are probably PPR, and the CBS numbers you're looking at are mostly none. I don't know. I think it's everything on CBS. I'm not sure. But, yeah, it could be. I mean, quarterbacks get pushed up on those leagues. That's probably a big part of it, too.

I bet if you compare NFFC to CBS and the first 80 picks and how many quarterbacks, it's going to be a lot more on CBS. Yep. Okay, so is anybody still excited about Will Fuller? At that ADP, I am. What ADP? Not excited. 75?

Are you excited at 75? Yeah, 75 is like round eight. Seven. Seven. Early round 7. 5. You know what I think about Will Fuller? I think he's awesome. He's like an unbelievable flex. But weren't his numbers

not great when all three guys were healthy with QT? Yes. And that's my concern. You're going to see too many mouths to feed in this offense. Right. And that's a four game is that you're going to see too many Mousafi in this offense. Right, and that's a four-game sample size where he had, I think, only 19 targets, and I think QT had 30, something like that, and Hopkins had about 38.

So what happens when all four guys are there? Yeah, I don't know. I feel like the cream will rise, but that's just, I don't know. Oh, I can't imagine that he comes off the field. No, I'm not saying that. But his target share goes down. And Duke Johnson's going to take targets too, right?

So I get it. I just, I think everybody's got their player that they might feel like irrationally in love with. And for me, it might be Will Fuller. So if you're listening to my evaluation of Will Fuller, realize that you don't have to be as high on Fuller as I am. And you can get him later. Can you imagine if Will Fuller went to the Giants no i would hate him i'd hate him on the giants are

you kidding he's not gonna run slants all day although you put daniel jones in there now we're talking can he still can run slants he can that's why i put him in the slot uh you know okay so um i think that pretty much wraps it up you've now gotten three episodes of reaction to that news and this was fun. I love having all three of you on to the debate. Let's take another break here. When we come back, I will just read the results of some Twitter polls. I got some other news and notes.

We got to talk about Melvin Gordon. Hello. AJ Green and more. I don't think we're going to get to league winners in each round, but we'll be right back. Whether in the game or in life, the right coverage can make all the difference. Securian Canada gives But we'll be right back. focus on what truly matters. Find their products through banks, credit unions, and associations, or visit SecurianCanada.ca. Securian Canada, insurance designed for life. All right, moving on here. Let me read the results of some Twitter polls because I thought they were interesting. So Twitter poll number one, who is your favorite

in half PPR? Josh Jacobs, Damian Williams, Aaron Jones, David Montgomery. Who would you guys go with? Josh Jacobs, Damian Williams, Aaron Jones, David Montgomery. Jones. Jacobs. I have Jacobs ranked the highest. All right, yeah. Jingleheimer Schmidt.

Yeah, Jones, Jacobs, Jingleheimer Schmidt are one and two. Jones got 32% of the vote. Jacobs 30%. Damian Williams last at 17%. Montgomery, 21%. And he's last for me, too. Who is your favorite in half PPR? Duke Johnson, Devin Singletary,

LeSean McCoy, Carlos Hyde. Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke of Duke. Duke, Duke, Duke of Duke. All right, you're on repeat. No, that's the Cypress Hill version. Oh, okay. Well, I'm an alley cat, so I'm saying a dirty rap. Dave, I thought Dave was broken.

That's really funny what you're doing right now. Yeah, Duke is crushing it. 59%, Singletary 30%. McCoy 9%, Hyde 2%. Okay, thank you for voting. I can't believe people voted for Hyde. Yeah, I don't know if it was just like the same people that keep reminding adam that he was ahead of duke johnson lesson

that that's exactly what i was gonna say it's probably what brian t smith from the chronicle would say just dropping that in there um heath why do you have kenyan drake ahead of damian williams you have him almost 10 spots higher in ppr than dave and jamie i have loved kenyan drake for almost all of the summer. There was a little stretch there. He's your Will Fuller, man. I didn't. He's your Will Fuller. We talked about this yesterday.

I don't. There are running backs, like you've mentioned, with Joe Mixon, also with Marlon Mack, where you really worry when their team is behind if they're just going to be terrible. Kenyon Drake is not one of those running backs. He might even be better when the Dolphins are playing from behind, and that's a good thing because they're going to be playing from behind

all year long. He does not need a ton of touches to be a top 20 running back. He showed us that last year. I expect he gets more touches than he did last year, and yes, the offensive line is bad, but I don't know how many times they plan on giving Kenyon Drake the ball and telling him to run between the tackles. I don't think that's going to be the game plan

with Kenyon Drake, so I don't think it will affect him as much. Plus, on all those screen plays, it'll be much easier because all the defensive players will have already beaten their five offensive linemen and they'll be in the backfield. Basically, every play is going to look like a screen.

Drake was 22nd in non-PPR, 13th in PPR. Dolphins, by the way, are losing 7- to look like a screen. Drake was 22nd in non-PPR, 13th in PPR. Dolphins, by the way, are losing 7-0 right now. How did the Ravens score? Lamar Jackson threw a touchdown pass to himself. It was batted at the line of scrimmage, and he just got double the points. So that was awesome if you started Lamar Jackson. By the way, you can please make fun of me if you want to,

but I told someone on the radio show, I told a listener to start Lamar Jackson over Patrick Mahomes in week one. Wow. I have him back-to-back in my ranking. Really? I don't have that, but I do have Lamar Jackson ranked over Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can see it.

I've got him ranked ahead of everybody except for Watson, Mahomes, Wentz, and Camp. Yeah, he's third for me. Oh, holy cow. And I might even change my tune on Wentz just because I think the Eagles blow out the Redskins. Yeah, I don't think... Okay, well, we have plenty of time to talk about that. But okay, I feel better about the

decision now since it's obviously questionable. Okay, news and notes. So let's see what we have not talked about here. Real quick, is there a Dolphins wide receiver to pick up? Nope. Albert Wilson. Yes. If you're desperate for a PPR receiver,

Albert Wilson's perfect. I did when you said Dolphins. My immediate answer is no. Wilson's a good round 10 pick. What about your boy? In the later rounds, first off, Devontae Parker should be drafted in a standard draft. Oh, I don't know about that. I think he's the number one

wide receiver right now. I think you could literally get him with your very last pick in every draft we do. You could have done it in every draft we did. If your draft goes more than 15 rounds, yes, I would consider drafting Preston. Okay. How about Melvin Gordon and the situation for Melvin Gordon now?

Have things changed? Or, you know, what do you think? Things have changed, but I don't know how to react to it. I don't think it's very likely that a team is going to give up a significant asset so that they can overpay Melvin Gordon. So I don't know exactly what this trade thing means. I didn't move him. It means they're done.

They said they're not going to renegotiate his contract this year thing means. I didn't move him. It means they're done. They said they're not going to renegotiate his contract this year. So he's either done with him. So when the initial report came out that they're going to give him the chance to trade himself out of town, I got excited over Melvin Gordon. I moved him back into the round five range thinking, oh, this is great. He's going to find a way out of town. Somehow, some way someone will trade for him. And then day and a half goes by. There's no trade. There's's no nothing and the charges aren't going to renegotiate with him he's going to have to either i think he's almost has to show up at

this point because if he doesn't show up he's going to risk his body for six games for less than like a million bucks after fines and all that other stuff. He doesn't care. That's bad business. That's bad business for him. He, if I were him, I'd show up week one, but I'm not him. No one knows what he's going to do.

So right back down, he goes at this point, I'm ready to take Eckler well ahead of Melvin Gordon. Well, did this move Eckler up for you? Do you still expect Gordon to play in week 10 or week 11, whenever it is? I don't know when.

Yes. He's definitely playing his six games. I would think he would. Who knows? I shouldn't say that. He's definitely showing up for his eligibility to play six games. Whether they play him or not remains to be seen. Right.

Would you take Justin Jackson or LaShawn McCoy? Jackson. McCoy. I think I have McCoy ranked higher. Okay. AJ Green is not on IR, but Cincinnati head coach... I'm sorry, I have Jackson ranked higher. It's very close.

Cincinnati head coach Zach Taylor said the recovery is on schedule, but also, quote, Green is somebody that we got to make a designation on right now and feel like we're going to get him back in the first eight weeks. Am I reading too much into that quote, or are you a little more pessimistic about... He's going to be back in the first eight weeks, but are you a little maybe a little more pessimistic about his timetable?

Green. I'm sticking with the timetable I've said all along, which is he's going to miss two or three games. He's going to have a game where he knocks the rust off and then he'll be back. Okay. Jadeveon Clowney to the Seahawks. That's for

like nothing, basically a third round. That's a DST to stream in week one. I don't think they're a streamer. What's their ownership percentage? I think they're a top. You might be right. They might have already been drafted. Well, no. I'm sorry. I was saying I think they're more than a streamer. I'm not sure if they're available or not, but I think you can

pick them up and use them most weeks. Agreed. I don't know if that defense is still... Before the Clowney addition, I don't know if that defense was very good, but now that he's there, I like him betterey addition, I don't know if that defense was very good. But now that he's there, I like him better. It's still the system, though. They cycle guys through. You're going to get – Yeah, maybe.

I mean, the linebackers are awesome. Yeah, I mean, long and fresh without Clowney. It's not even worth talking about because now Clowney's there. Yeah, I mean, Clowney's better as – He changes the whole dynamic for them. So, yes. By the way, do you guys have Drew Brees in your top five in week one? Top ten.

Texas defense, thanks. Yeah, like no clowny, and he's at home in prime time? Come on. He's going to light it up. They're 37% on the Seahawks defense. They get the Bengals at home in week one. More news and notes. Let's see what's important here.

So Cameron Artis Payne was cut. So if you own Montgomery, Jordan Scarlet, sorry, if you own McCaffrey, Jordan Scarlet is your handcuff. Jarek McKinnon's out for the season. Theo Riddick is on IR, which can't be bad for Phillip Lindsay. Alfred Blue is on IR. So what would you do if you're the Fournette owner? Right, well, pray to the fantasy gods that he stays healthy.

And pick up. If that happens happens he's going to be amazing they'll just bring carlos hide back when he gets cut i i think i think armstead's the handcuff if you do that kind of thing i think you're right i don't think and like the same thing with carolina like if you really think jordan scarlett's going to be any good compared to what mcafree is then you can go and get jordan scarlett but he's is going to be any good compared to what McCaffrey is, then you can go and get Jordan Scarlett, but he's not going to be. I'm worried about Armstead being as good as Fournette if Armstead suddenly falls into that role.

You can handcuff if you want, but I don't think it's absolutely worth it. No, but I think we say that a lot. We kind of poo-poo handcuffs because you don't want to waste a roster spot. We poo-poo some handcordan scarlet but if christian mccaffrey were to get hurt who would be one of the lead guys in the waiver wire column and who would we be talking about like all day on tuesday we'd be talking about jordan scarlet so it's not the worst idea

in the world but yeah like i i have i had artists paying in one league i dropped him for scarlet that's my i'll tell you what. It depends on the makeup of your running backs on your team. If your running back depth isn't good, but you've got Christian McCaffrey, then it makes sense. But if you've got McCaffrey and you've got five other running backs that you're happy with, then you don't need Scarlett. That's the word, need.

Yeah. The Patriots released Demarius Thomas. There's some rumors that he could return. There are other teams that are interested, apparently, in Demarius. I saw that Denver was interested in bringing him back. Really? Yeah. I saw the same thing. Trey Burton did not...

Oh, Russell Okung, the Chargers' left tackle, is out for at least six weeks with a pulmonary embolism. Is this a big deal to you guys? Yeah, it's not great. That line... I'm not sure how good that offensive line is. It's not. It was looking good, and now it's not great. That line, I'm not sure how good that offensive line is. It's not. It was looking good, and now it's not so much.

And Trey Burton didn't practice. He's probably not going to play on Thursday against the Packers. We're going to preview that game on Wednesday, and the Redskins cut Josh Doxson. I'm not sure you could draft Trey Burton if you were considering it. You can't. Last week, Heath said that he, I said the Redskins were trying to trade Josh Doxon,

and Heath said he had a pair of socks in his drawer with a hole in them that he was trying to trade. Oh, what do you want for them? We got the same thing. I got the same thing for my socks that Washington got for Doxon. Exactly. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What are you looking for for the socks?

Hey, listen. I want to give a little programming announcement. All right. So as you've been listening to this show, you know, we do the Sunday night recap. You know, we do Tuesday waiver wire. Wednesday is a kind of a fun, wacky trade show. Thursday is starter sit for the AFC home games. Friday starter sit for the NFC home games. And we recap Thursday night.

We also preview the Thursday night game on Wednesday, just so you know. Then we have a Saturday mailbag. We record it on Friday and we read your questions on Saturday. I think we are going to be adding a Monday mid-afternoon show. It's going to have some injury updates. It's going to have like an advanced stats segment where we kind of look at some things we don't usually get to talk about. We're going to make it different and hopefully helpful and kind of quick, probably like 30 minutes or something. And for this week for our mailbag show, so yes, you can email at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. I might throw some tweets in there, but also I think, you know, I hate to keep hammering on this,

but five-star reviews are really, really important in this industry. So if you can go to iTunes and leave a review, put your first name in there if you want, or I can just read your iTunes account name and leave a review, give us five stars and ask a question. And I'll be reading a lot of those on the mailbag, which will air on Saturday. So thank you for helping out there. Before I get to our final segment, which I haven't determined yet, it's going to be one of two things. Is there anyone else that you're feeling better or worse about over the last few days?

Worse about Damien Williams? No, other than the guys. Well, other than guys that we've talked about. I have a few names if you'd like time to think about it. I'd like time to think about it. I think that Keenan Allen is, and basically all the pass catchers, but Keenan Allen will benefit from Melvin Gordon's absence.

Gordon was third on the team with 13 red zone targets. He was second on the team with eight targets inside the 10-yard line. He was a big factor in the passing game. I think Melvin Gordon being out is going to help Keenan Allen. I think it probably helps. I'm not sure it helps Keenan Allen because he's not used as much in that red zone role, and he was already going to get a ton of targets. He led the team in red zone targets, by the way.

He led the team in red zone targets? Yeah, but barely ahead of Mike Williams and Melvin Gordon. I think it might help Henry and Williams. I think you're right. It helps everybody. It helps Phillip Rivers. I am slightly nervous about Tevin Coleman. This is not a fresh take. It's basically because Matt

Breida is good. I wouldn't mind getting both of them, but I just I feel better about Coleman because McKinnon's on IR, but I feel worse about him because Breida is going to certainly be involved. Understood. And I'm a little bit nervous about Julian

Edelman. he played one possession and aggravated his thumb like what the hell so that wasn't comforting as long as it's not broken he's gonna be fine yeah i i can't say i'm doing anything actionable one possession you heard his thumb though here's the whole thumb that he broke. All right. So maybe he just jammed it or something. Yeah. I'm not theoretically moving him down, but I didn't want to see that. Okay. How about you guys?

Anyone you're feeling better or worse about over the last few days? I'm going to make you feel good, Adam. You're feeling better about me? No. No. I feel a little better about DK Metcalf than I did. What? I was shocked that Seattle cut Jerron Brown.

That makes me feel like it's a little bit, they're not quite as concerned about Metcalf's injury. They are going into the year with Tyler Lockett, DK Metcalf, and David Moore, who we don't know when he's going to play. I'm feeling a little bit... You can't start Metcalf, but I'm feeling a little bit better about drafting him. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Anything else, guys? Give me one or two more. I don't really have any. Following the fourth preseason game, there's not really a whole lot you can take away. I guess Josh Gordon. Better? For the opposite reasons of why you said Edelman. It was good to see him out there.

There were a couple times where he looked a little rusty, but a couple times where he looked really good. And now that there's no Demarius Thomas for now, I think that upside of a round five pick is looking pretty good. Okay. Jamie, anything to add, or shall we move on? No. Okay, let's do it.

So 10 minutes left. I want to look at league winners in every round. Yeah, we're going to go real quick here. So give me a league winner in round one. And what I'm going to go here with Heath, I'm going to throw it to you. I'm going to go with the Christian Yelich comparison. You may have picked him eighth overall

or something like that. And yet he's performed like the number one player basically in fantasy. So who could be a league winner in round one? Juju Smith-Schuster. Let's just hypothetically, the Steelers don't have a huge decrease in their past attempts. Ben Roethlisberger maybe wants to make a point to somebody that now lives in California. Juju Smith-Schuster doesn't have any problem with the double teams. I think he could challenge 200 targets, double-digit touchdowns, and lead receivers in just about every category. And I think if Julio Jones catches 10 touchdowns, he might be the most valuable wide receiver.

Right. You stole my guy, Adam. Okay. Let's go to round two, Dave. All the running backs in round two, basically. Todd Gurley. All the running backs in round two definitely qualify. But Gurley. All the running backs in round two definitely qualify. But I'm going to go with Leonard Fournette, who I'm not sure if his ADP is round two. But I've seen him get taken in round two in a bunch, and I would take him in round two. It's the if that everybody knows.

If he stays healthy, he could be primed for a monster year. Why do I think that he's got a better chance to stay healthy now than before? No real reason other than he's actually okay now. He seems fine. This offense is going to be better. There is no running back that's going to take him off the field on third downs. At least we don't think so. And he's going to catch a lot of passes, get a lot of carries, work the goal line.

There's unbelievable upside in him. And I keep calling back to this point you made about Fournette a long time ago. He was a top 10 running back in his rookie season on 13 games. And he has a 71% success rate in non-PPR over the course of his career. He's going to be good. And as long as he's playing, he's going to be in your lineup, and you're going to be happy about it. And if he has the yards per carry jump

that Melvin Gordon got, and gets a better offensive line, yeah, he could be awesome. All right, Jamie, let's go to round three. Give me a league winner in round three. Todd Gurley? I put him in round two. Okay.

You know, you got Thielen, you got Aaron Jones, Devontae Freeman, Stephon Diggs, George Kittle, Zach Ertz, Amari Cooper, Josh Jacobs, Chris Carson. Carson. Really? Okay. Yeah. I think, you know, just given what this offense is going to be still,

the fact that he separated himself from Rashad Penny during the preseason and training camp, the fact that he's healthy, you know, my concerns were Penny taking too much work from him and also the fact that he wasn't 100% with that knee. So yeah, round three is a good spot for him. All right, I'm going to skip some names. They might not make the cut. But like David Montgomery round four. Montgomery, Cooks, Lockett, Henry.

I hate it. Hilton, Robert Woods, Michelle, Ingram, Galladay, Mack, Mike Williams. Mike Williams? I'm looking at the NFC from the last day. Mike Williams going 48th overall. That's ridiculous. It's not going to happen. Any league winners.

It actually is happening. But it's not going to happen. No way. Mike Williams is not going 48th overall in anyone's drafts. He did go 48th overall in many drafts yesterday. This is not going to happen. I don't know what to tell you. It's not going to happen.

Who stands out? Who's a league winner? I'm hopeful for Galladay. You can be hopeful for Galladay. It's getting a little bit harder to see because of all the options at Matthew Stafford's disposal in a team that wants to run the ball. He does have a thousand-yard potential. He could have a year like he did last year.

Brandon Cooks, David Montgomery, Sonny Michelle, Mark Ingram. Anybody? Where's Damian Williams? He's in round three, actually. We could put him here. Let's put him here. He's a league winner. No.

Yes. Yes. No. Because if LeSean McCoy plays like he did the last two seasons, Damian Williams is going to have more opportunities. If he plays like he did the last two seasons, he's just a speed bump for Damian Williams. Right, exactly.

If he plays like he did the last two seasons, he probably averages four and a half yards per carry because the Chiefs are a lot better than the Bills. Right, which means that Damian Williams would probably average closer to five yards per carry and probably like seven, eight yards per catch. If they're both getting all that work, then Damian Williams is not a league winner. He could be a league winner. Not if McCoy's healthy.

Okay. But if McCoy – McCoy not only has to be healthy, he's got to be effective. The Chiefs are going to run him out there if he's averaging three yards per carry and Damon Williams is at five. If we've always sort of thought that Andy Reid just uses one guy, do you think that's going to change this year? The indication is yes,

after what he's done. And after what he said, he's gone back and forth on this. Now maybe it's just Coach Beacon, he's a lying liar, but I think the fact that he brought in LaShawn McCoy is a hint that he will use more than one bat. You have Williams who's going to get work. You have McCoy who's going to get work. You have Thompson who's going to get work.

You have Tyreek Hill who's going to get touches in the backfield at some point. You have Meikle Hardman who's probably going to get some touches in the backfield at some point. It's going to be an annoying situation. All right, let's go to the next round. Mike Williams, Melvin Gordon, Cooper Cup, DJ Moore. I think I might just use CBS ADP. I'm not really thrilled with this ADP. You just don't like it because it doesn't go similar to our rankings.

Well, because I don't think it's going to go similar to our listeners' drafts, honestly. So I don't think it's that helpful. T.Y. Hilton, Cooper Cup cup chris godwin we're in round five now 48 through 60 49 through 60 chris godwin matt ryan philip lindsey oj howard calvin ridley baker mayfield evan ingram tevin coleman duke johnson tyler boyd i'll go out like three names i'll go out on a limb and say one of the names that I don't think Dave was going to say, but I'm going to say Cooper cup. That was the first name I was going to say.

Yeah. I like, if you look at what he did last year and the seven games that he played and was healthy, um, or even like one of those games he left early. So you could say six games. He was on pace for just an absolute monster season.

And it's not just that he was on pace for double digit touchdowns. Um, he was trending towards for double-digit touchdowns. He was trending towards 90 catches and 1,300 yards. He has that connection with Jared Goff. He could just be awesome, especially if the offensive line doesn't produce the type of rushing

totals that they have the last two years. Jared Goff has to throw a little more. We were asked by our editor, Chris Towers, to name the player who has the most to prove in week one. And I answered Todd Gurley. Because we haven't seen him. The last time we saw him play, he sucked. We haven't seen him in a preseason game.

We have two minutes left, so I just want to... Okay, well, I'm just saying that if that run game stinks, and there's got to be a chance that it does, Cooper Cup could end up being unbelievable. Who were the other guys? Evan Ingram was one that stood out to me, and Chris Godwin was the other. Okay, and Calvin Ridley to me, I mean.

He's close. He's real close. He could be. It's hard to be a league winner when you're the number two receiver on your fantasy team. Like Chris Godwin. Unless you're Juju. We have a new quarterback in Indianapolis.

Hoyer. Brian Hoyer got a three-year deal. Oh, they're going to play both guys. Right? Like McCoy a three-year deal. Oh, they're going to play both guys. Right? Like McCoy. Three-year deal. By the way, please. That must mean he's got to play, right?

People, please don't freaking criticize me for rushing the guys along. I have an out time. I have to get to it. So that's why I do it. All right. Next round. And it's not like a self-imposed one either. Kenyon Drake, James White, Jared Cook,

Drew Brees, Austin Eckler, AJ Green, Alshon Jeffrey, Hunter Henry, Ben Roethlisberger, Jared Goff, Mike Williams, Josh Gordon. You went back to CBS ADP. Yeah, I'm on CBS, yes. Gordon, Gordon, Eckler. Josh Eckler is another. Gordon and Eckler. Oh, Josh. Eckler is another.

Gordon and Eckler. Of course, that's Josh Gordon. Of course, Kenyon Drake. I don't think Josh Gordon's going to last 72nd overall. That's like too much ADP data. Let's find another site to use. No, he's probably a top 60 pick. I'd say around 60th.

And he still could be a league winner. All right. What else? After Josh Gordon, we got Carson Wentz, Miles Sanders, Andrew Luck. No. Jarvis Landry, Tariq Cohen, Lamar Miller, DeeDee Westbrook, DJ Moore.

You Ron Burgundy it. Yeah. What are you? I did. Yeah, yeah. I am Ron Burgundy. I think this is a good time to end the podcast. DeeDee Westbrook.

Hey, guess what? My favorite player? Got to go. Bye. What do you mean? Why are you leaving? I didn't say the show was over yet. Why did he just leave?

I'm not done yet. All right. I guess I'm done. I guess I'm done. Lamar Miller is going to win your league in round six. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na.