Fantasy Football Today - 09/06: Start or Sit; GB-CHI Recap; Antonio Brown's Trade Value (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 6, 2019Let's recap the game (1:30)! What a thriller! How do we see the CHI backfield playing out as we move forward? Is Geronimo Allison droppable and is Mitchell Trubisky really that bad? Then we talk about... Antonio Brown's trade value (13:10). Should you give up someone like Curtis Samuel for Brown? ... Some fun stats to know for the NFC home games (16:30), an "Offense vs. Defense" debate (18:15), Beat the Waiver Wire (24:00) and the Startometer (26:40) for guys like David Johnson, Sterling Shepard, Marvin Jones and Miles Sanders ... ATL-MIN (31:40), LAR-CAR (40:00), SF-TB (45:30), DET-ARI (50:30), NYG-DAL (57:10), CIN-SEA (1:01:00), WAS-PHI (1:04:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com*Time stamps are approximate To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's Adam, Dave, and Jamie.
And just like that, football is underway.
It has begun.
And it just got called back on a holding penalty.
Welcome to the show.
It is Friday.
Happy Friday, September 6th.
Green Bay 10, Chicago 3.
Chicago was six field goals shy of my expectation.
But hey, guys, the national anthem was awesome.
Yeah, that dude is a Chicago institution.
He's awesome. Yeah. Wow. Crowd completely gets into it. Yeah, it dude is a Chicago institution. He's awesome.
Yeah.
Wow.
Crowd completely gets into it.
Yeah, it was really cool.
And the outfits were fun.
I like the outfits.
Jamie, what did you think of the wardrobe?
They were fantastic.
That was probably the best part of the game.
Yeah, it was kind of downhill over there,
although I can appreciate some good defense.
We'll talk about that game.
Dave and I did a bonus pod yesterday talking about Antonio Brown,
but we never addressed his trade value.
So we will get into that.
And it's start or sit for seven NFC home games, not the Texans Saints.
We did that on yesterday's show.
All right.
So what was a major fantasy takeaway from yesterday's game?
Jamie Eisenberg.
Mitchell Trubisky's not very good, and the Packers' defense is going to be great.
Hmm.
I don't know if I agree with that.
I feel like you went a little strong on both statements.
I think it's too soon on either statement.
I think it's pretty clear that Mitchell Trubisky had a bad game,
but he did make some good throws.
He's going to be up and down.
I just asked Jamie, who's better between Mitchell Trubisky and Ryan Tannehill?
And I think Trubisky is better.
He's better than Tannehill.
Come on.
I think so, but the fact that I have to think about it for more than 15 seconds tells you.
What makes him better than Tannehill?
I think he's equally mobile, and I think he can make more throws than Tannehill can.
Oh, he's more mobile than Tannehill.
I think they're equally mobile.
Maybe he's more mobile now because Tannehill's been beat up.
The fact that this is the conversation tells you we're good.
Exactly, exactly.
Well, I don't know that it needs to be the conversation.
It was a bad game. He had a bad game sure so you can't compare the dac or anything like that no in the world of the nfl quarterback where every quarterback seems to
be amazing he falls in the bottom eight six i'm not sure somewhere for that right trade it up to
take him over my homes and watson yeah i, I'm not super excited about his fantasy prospects.
It was like five games he had last year.
Six.
Six, yeah.
I mean, it was like one stretch of really good games
with a lot of rushing totals, and he's going to have to run.
But I think he's less interesting than the running backs in this game.
Yeah, I'm obviously being a little too hard on him.
I do think the Packers' defense is going to be very good.
They've added a lot of nice pieces.
And as Aaron Rodgers said last night, usually they get them when they're too old.
They got the guys in the prime in terms of Z'Darrius Smith, Preston Smith, and Amos.
Plus, they had a very good draft.
So I think, you know, you look at what this defense has the chance to be, it's got a chance
to be very good.
And you just look at the division with what
the Vikings are going to be defensively, what the Bears are going to be defensively, what the Lions
have the chance to be defensively, and what the Packers have the chance to be defensively. It's
really going to be the black and blue division. And so it's going to be tough, I think, for all
these offenses when they play each other to have success barring injury down the road. So this was,
I think, an indication of that the Packers can play on that side of the ball.
The problem is that
Matt Nagy
didn't help Trubisky in the
way that he called the game and the personality he put on the field.
That kind of lends itself out into what you're talking about
in terms of the running backs.
Okay, yeah.
So
Tariq Cohen got 70% of the snap. Let's start with the Bears
running backs. He had
zero carries.
That did not happen once last year.
They basically used Tariq Cohen as a wide receiver a lot.
David Montgomery only played 38% of the snaps.
He had six carries for 18 yards, one catch for 27 yards.
Mike Davis, five carries for 19 yards, six catches for 17 yards.
He played 56% of the snaps.
So, yeah, what's your takeaway here?
I have much to say, but I'll let you say it.
So it's a stunner for sure to see Mike Davis have that important of a role.
He was their two-minute drill back as well.
So to end the first half, he was in there, not Cohen, not Montgomery.
I wonder if one of the changes that the Bears will make
going into week two and it's terrible timing to do it is to run the ball more and take pressure
off Trubisky and not lean on him they only ran the ball technically they ran the ball 15 times
three of them were Trubisky carries one was Cordero on that third and one that was terrible
weird yeah and the fact that montgomery only had six carries
and he led the team and carries it's just i think that that's where they they make a change first
and i i'm really upset about starting montgomery i'm sad that i took him in round four but i'm not
at the point even close where i'm you know sad that you took him round four after one game after
one bill because the numbers were bad, but I think he's still,
I know.
Well,
let me get to my point.
I think there's optimism.
I think there's reason to believe that he will get better.
So you just have to be patient.
Yeah.
And I think he looked like the best rusher.
I mean,
well,
he was the only,
only two guys carried the ball and not counting Patterson.
Like it just felt to me like they were trying to justify Mike Davis.
I didn't think he did anything special.
Like if you're going to throw the ball, throw it more did anything special. If you're going to throw the ball, throw
it more to Cohen. And if you're going to run the ball, run it
more with Montgomery. And this
happens with rookie running backs. It takes them some
time. So he was
86% started, David Montgomery.
86% started, whereas
Cohen was 41% started, and Davis
is only 10% owned.
Rodgers was 73%
started. Do you want the snap counts
for the three guys?
I gave the snap counts.
Montgomery, 38%.
Mike Davis, 56%.
Cohen, 70%.
It's okay.
It's worth repeating.
But the fact that Montgomery
was started in more leagues
than Rodgers was interesting to me.
Kudos to fantasy owners
for starting Rodgers
in only 73% of leagues.
It takes a lot to draft Aaron Rodgers
and not to start him.
And I thought the start percentage would be higher. But I think we all know 73% of leagues. It takes a lot to draft Aaron Rodgers and not to start him.
I thought the start percentage would be higher,
but I think we all know even great quarterbacks can struggle in tough matchups,
and he scored just 14 fantasy points.
I bet the people who benched him
started to panic when he had the touchdown in the first half.
Maybe, but
basically, the game was decided on
one big play, right?
The big play to Marquez Valdez-Scantling.
How do you like my trade now, Dave?
No, still don't like it.
I traded Sterling Shepard for MVS and Pollard with my Zeke League.
IDP?
I don't like it.
That's a great trade.
So, all right, anyway, would you try to buy low on David Montgomery if you have a panicked owner?
Yes, of course.
Yeah.
Check in with that guy.
Would you sell high on Tariq Cohen? Because the thing is, if they weren't trailing in this game, he wouldn't have had such great numbers.
He had eight catches for 49 yards, but so much of it came on the final drive.
And, again, no carries.
I think that's an adjustment the Bears will make,
and it kind of ties into what I said before.
They're going to run the ball more, and Tariq will be involved in there.
All right.
Who fumbled on the first carry?
It was Tariq.
It was Tariq.
So they gave him a carry to start the game, but it was callback compelling.
Okay, yeah.
That's true.
The whole game.
It was a pitch that he dropped.
Any panic on the Packers' side?
Aaron Jones, 13 carries, and Jamal Williams, 5.
No.
I expected Jones to play poorly in this game.
This was pretty ugly, but in the second half,
he started to break through a little bit more,
so maybe it's just a slow start.
What could have been his third injury in a row in a trip to Chicago.
He did, but I think he came out okay.
I think it looked like he just got punched someplace he shouldn't get punched.
Or it was just like a
hand injury. It could have been any of that stuff.
Yeah, I have
that. Jamal Williams, 41%.
Aaron Jones, 59%.
But more importantly, Jones had
13 of the 18 carries
between the two.
Jamal Williams was terrible.
Five carries, no yards.
At one point, he had the best carry until Jones got going at the end of the game.
They both were bad.
I mean, let's be honest.
Not surprising.
Are you going to drop Geronimo Allison?
Just depends on what happens through this weekend.
But I would say he's near the top of the list.
Yes.
Right behind Anthony Miller.
Ooh!
51% on Miller, 70% on Allison.
Yeah, Allison,
I guess you gotta let him
go if you want somebody off waivers.
Miller is definitely going to be a consideration
to cut.
If they're using Tariq Cohen as a receiver, there's no way
this offense can sustain that amount of guys.
I think... Without Tariq Burton playing I think it speaks to Miller's health.
I'm not sure how healthy he is.
Right.
We had the report that he was going to be sort of eased in at the start of the season,
and Miller only played 22% of the snaps, whereas Gabriel played 92%.
Right.
And Gabriel was miserable.
So there's a real chance here for Miller to step in.
Gabriel was shadowed by Alexander.
He lined up on Alexander most of the night.
And finally, Jimmy Graham.
Not a bad game for him.
Three catches, 30 yards, and a touchdown.
He had six targets.
And yeah, he had that little jump ball touchdown.
I dropped him on Wednesday night.
Go me.
It was more like a hot ball touchdown,
not a jump ball touchdown.
It's true. He's not quite
as explosive as he used to be, but
when the run game can't get going, tight ends like that
can start to get some work.
I don't think this is indicative of what
you'll get from Jimmy Graham each week.
Yeah. All right. We got to get to Antonio
Brown. So let me
promote a few things first. We have a Monday
show, a new show, a seventh episode.
It's going to be like kind of midday
on Monday. Hopefully,
I think it'll be in time for your afternoon commute.
So we do a Sunday night show to recap the games.
Then Monday, it's going to be completely different stuff.
We're getting Dr. David Chow on
to talk about injuries. He's a
big guy in the fantasy football community.
He's a former
team doctor and he knows his stuff and it's really
interesting. Gives good insight.
Pro Football Talk on Twitter. Most people know him by that.
Pro Football Doc.
He's not quite Pro Football Talk
but he is Pro Football Doc.
Will Brinson is going to come on to rant and rave
about fantasy and Chris Towers is going to come
on to give us some advanced stats that we don't
ordinarily get to talk about. I think it'll be a quicker
show, about a half hour,
and should be fun on Monday evening.
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Let's get to some big news here.
So, Julio Jones, probably going to play, right?
Yeah.
You just got to keep an eye on it, I would say.
All right.
Because he had this weird press conference where he sounded like he wasn't sure if he was going to play.
Then he said he would.
It was just a little strange.
If I were him, I wouldn't play.
Let's not say that too loud.
Because of your contract? Yeah. They keep saying they're going to extend him, extend him, extend. Let's not say that too loud. Because of your contract?
Yeah, they keep saying they're going to extend him, extend him, extend him,
and it hasn't happened yet, so force their hand.
Julio, if you're listening, don't listen to Jamie.
Yeah, agreed.
Antonio Brown, not expected to play this week,
so we talked about it yesterday.
Tyrell Williams is still only 67% owned.
Darren Waller, 52% owned.
Hunter Renfro, 8% owned.
You've got to pick up Tyrell Williams.
One thing we didn't really talk about.
I waited too long.
Let's start with this.
Where are you going to rank Tyrell Williams now with Brown likely out?
Right where he's ranked because we took Brown out of our rankings.
He's a flex.
Yeah, where is he ranked now?
He's a number three receiver, like right around
35. Yeah, I'm a little
lower than that. I had him ranked
ahead of MVS going into the game last night. I think he could
do at least what MVS did.
And where's Darren Waller ranked?
Number one.
No, I'm just kidding. He's not number one.
He's number one in my heart.
Well, number two, Phillip Rivers
is number one. Top ten for me.
MBS is four for 52
last night.
What's the trade?
What kind of offers would you be taking?
Somebody said, would you trade
Amari Cooper for Antonio Brown?
I was like, I don't think I could do that.
No way. I know somebody that I thought was
a fair one. Christian Kirk for Antonio Brown.
I'd make that offer right now.
You'd make that offer to get Antonio Brown on your team, not knowing exactly.
Somebody asked me about, one of our producers here said,
what about Curtis Samuel for Antonio Brown?
I said, no, I'd rather have Samuel, just not knowing what's going to happen.
But, I mean, that's the level of receiver you're talking about.
Number three receiver that is not a starter on your roster.
Just to see if that owner is panicked and will make a move.
I can't imagine accepting any trade for Antonio Brown in any of the leagues I have him in
because I don't think anybody is going to pay me anything for him.
His future is totally uncertain.
Well, okay, Dave.
So what if I offered you Curtis Samuel for your Antonio Brown?
It would depend on the makeup of my team and how badly I needed a starting receiver this week.
I would probably turn it down. So turn it down. Okay. So just real quick, I got to mention,
I know the connection's not great. Remember, Dave and Jamie are not in their normal studio
because of the hurricane. They're going back to Florida today, but we're having a little bit of
connectivity issues. I think if you're going back to Florida today, but we're having a little bit of connectivity issues.
I think if you're going to trade
for Antonio Brown, you probably want to ask
yourself, this guy I'm giving up for Brown,
if he tears his ACL
and is out for the year, does that
affect my team or can I live with it?
If you can live with a guy
who, if you can get rid of a guy that
you just don't need and get
Antonio Brown, that's beautiful.
It doesn't have to be ACL.
It's just a non-starter.
Yeah, but you know what I mean.
You could be taking a zero with Antonio Brown.
It's possible.
Sure.
I mean, it's the same thing.
We should probably be having the same thing about what you're trying to trade for Melvin Gordon right now.
It's not the same level, obviously, or same circumstances.
But look, as of right now, time we're recording it, it could be a one-game suspension, and he's 15 games for the Raiders.
It could be they cut him, and no team touches him,
and he never plays again.
I mean, that's the spectrum.
So actually, who would you rather have, Melvin Gordon or Antonio Brown?
I'd rather have Brown.
Brown.
Okay.
Well, there you go.
Fun stats that we're going to be discussing today.
Bengals Seahawks,
Cincinnati allowed the most fantasy points to quarterbacks in 2018.
You Russell Wilson owners,
a tight end caught a touchdown against Cincinnati with five or fewer targets.
10 times last season.
That's amazing.
10,
10 times a tight end caught a touchdown with five or fewer targets against
the Bengals.
Thanks to,
I think ESPN for this one,roit allowed 57 fewer rushing yards per game with damon harrison than without
him 57 per game looking at the game log though i think a lot of that was the teams they play like
the good running backs that face detroit we're still we're still fine um they'll face david
johnson this week how about about this one against the Vikings?
Only two quarterbacks scored more than 17 fantasy points
and six points per passing touchdown leagues.
Both of those quarterbacks did it without Everson Griffin on the field
for the Vikes.
So Matt Ryan's pretty low in the rankings.
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All right, offense versus defense.
We got Matt Ryan and that amazing offense.
Matt Ryan, one of the best fantasy quarterbacks,
two of the last three seasons.
But he's at Minnesota. And, yeah, like I just said, they of the best fantasy quarterbacks two of the last three seasons. But he's at Minnesota.
And, yeah, like I just said, they're so good against quarterbacks
when Everson Griffin is on the field.
Jimmy Garoppolo is at Tampa Bay.
They are so bad against quarterbacks when another quarterback is on the field.
So who would you start in our head and shoulders segment,
Matt Ryan or Jimmy Garoppolo?
Jimmy G.
None but a G thing.
He's got the better matchup.
Matt Ryan's got a bad track record against Mike Zimmer, and the Vikings have schemed him away.
And it's not just Everson Griffin that stirs the drink for that defense.
You got Hunter on that D-line.
You've got great linebackers.
You've got great safeties.
I think the Vikings match up very well against Atlanta.
And as nice as it is that the Falcons improve their offensive line this offseason,
this is a very rough first game for those young players.
Right guard, right tackle against Minnesota.
I think Atlanta's in trouble in this one.
And Matt Ryan, no thank you.
I would stay away from him.
All the quarterbacks that we've talked about this week,
Breeze, Rivers, Lamar Jackson, all ahead of him,
and Jimmy Garoppolo is ahead of him too.
Yeah, well said.
Okay, so there you go.
That's your Head & Shoulders segment.
Nice and easy.
Matt Ryan versus Garoppolo.
Let's go with Jimmy Garoppolo at Tampa Bay,
and obviously Jameis Winston as well.
Winston is a top five quarterback for two of our three rankers.
Head & Shoulders, great offense for your hair.
Or Dave, is it defense for a flake-free scalp?
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And I'll tell you personally, I can tell you that Jamie is making me go
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So that means I had to shower and shave, and I used head and shoulders to shampoo my hair.
It was a wonderful experience.
And do you have flakes?
No.
Hell no, I don't have flakes.
Defense wins again.
There you go.
And, Jamie, thanks for making me shower.
Okay.
My wife thanks you.
It's time for some news and notes.
Beat the waiver wire, the start-o-meter, and the and the games and a bonanza we're coming right back after this well it's week one not a lot of news
and notes thankfully but okay what's this odell beckham thing he's like can't run full speed
what is going on here yeah that's that wasn't good to hear but i don't know if that necessarily... I don't know.
I guess I should believe it,
but it's kind of hard to
believe. That he can't
open up and sprint.
I guess maybe what it is is I just can't believe that he said
it. If you really have
a problem sprinting, why would you
say something?
For a guy to miss 16 games
over two seasons, not encouraging.
No.
Is he going to push himself to be out there for the opener
because he's excited to be a member of the Browns
and he's not 100% and then he has setback?
Or is this just him, you know, creating a little bit more drama?
Is this him making excuses for why he won't be good in this game
slash this season.
I hope not.
Is this a Doug Baldwin?
I'm at 85% just letting you know that I'm not right.
Beckham's going to retire after this season.
I don't know if it's going to go that far,
but is he letting us know that he's not okay?
Is that what this is?
Is he letting us know he's not okay?
Ooh.
Well, he's also a It's hitting me right now.
He's also a bit dramatic.
So that's...
Yeah, I wouldn't agree with you.
Jamie brought that up, too.
I mean, look, if he plays, you're starting.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if he doesn't play well,
you're probably not going to be too thrilled
to have him on your team.
Todd Gurley won't be on a snap count.
I mean, I have to have him in my DFS lineups.
You do?
On FanDuel, Todd Gurley is usually the most expensive running back.
This week, he's not even close.
It's a great option.
Yeah, I mean, there's...
What's the price?
It's like $7,500 or something like that.
That's actually lower than DraftKings,
which I guess is par for the course, right?
Because FanDuel, their prices are usually lower.
Is that right?
No, FanDuel is usually higher.
FanDuel is higher.
That's surprising.
Let me check the price on FanDuel.
He's $79 on DK.
He is $7,600.
And Christian McCaffrey is $8,900.
I think Saquon Barkley is like $92,000, $93,000,
something like that.
So I just think such an opportunity to get a guy
that usually is so expensive, Todd Gurley.
Stefan Diggs practiced, so that's good.
Jordan Reed participated in practice,
but he remains in the concussion protocol,
so we don't know about him.
Adrian Peterson could be a healthy scratch,
so we're going to do Darius Geis in a moment,
but Geis is going to
get a lot of work, it seems. Alshon
Jeffries on the injury report. Do we expect him to play?
I would
say yes, but you never know with him.
Dante Pettis practice
in full. Marquise Lee practice in full.
Do you have any interest in picking up Marquise Lee? He's about
50% owned. Nah,
rather have the Raiders, guys.
Deep leagues, absolutely.
Is there anyone else who might miss week one that's important yeah important um i don't believe so andrew luck
he's questionable okay then let's do a quick round of beat the waiver wire this is where we
take a look ahead to what we expect the waiver wire to be on Tuesday.
Guys, you can pick up now with a good week two matchup.
You don't have to wait.
It's, you know, look, there's no buys.
We don't know who's good yet.
So it wasn't the easiest list to compile.
But I got two quarterbacks, guys.
Josh Allen at the Giants and Jimmy Garoppolo at Cincinnati.
Who do you like better?
Garoppolo this week. I want to see better? Garoppolo this week.
I want to see how it comes out after this week,
but if I had to pick up one right now,
I would probably lean toward Garoppolo.
Yeah, okay.
And you do have to pick one now to beat the labor wire.
Baltimore wide receivers
up against Arizona.
San Francisco wide receivers.
So if Pettis is available or Goodwin is certainly available,
Goodwin's been my favorite guy. I've been saying it all week.
Yeah, he's in my Fandu lineup.
He'll be good. Marquise Brown is interesting.
I'd rather have Goodwin than Brown, but I think
Brown could make a big splash.
It's going to be really, really interesting to see how the Ravens
receivers perform
because
the hope is that it's
one, if not both, of the two
rookies.
The surprise will be if it's Willie Snead and Chris Moore.
I understand if you don't want to start Tyrell Williams against the Broncos,
but they get the Chiefs next week, and if Antonio Brown's still not there,
Tyrell Williams needs to be added.
Sure.
He should be added regardless.
I know. I don't get it.
I picked up Hunter Renfro in a couple leagues last night. I was excited about it. May I, he should be added regardless. I know. I don't get it. And in deep leagues, Hunter.
I picked up Hunter Renfro in a couple leagues last night.
I was excited about it.
May I give a deep league stash at receiver?
Oh, please.
Damian Willis with the Bengals.
Michael Gallup is at Washington next week.
Yeah, I don't know about that one.
But if you need a DST, the Titans get the Colts.
We'll see about that.
But the Patriots are at the Dolphins.
That's probably a pretty good one.
All right, guys.
I've gotten a little...
Do you think the Patriots are available?
I don't know, actually.
I don't know.
Are they?
They're not, no.
Really?
I'm pretty sure they were drafted.
What the hell?
Why?
They're not that good, and they open with the Steelers.
They also get the Dolphins and two young quarterbacks.
Six times.
They're 73% owned.
After the Steelers this week, they've got Miami, the Jets, the Bills,
the Redskins, the Giants, the Jets.
Wow.
That's why.
Yeah, I get it.
You will take your lumps this week with them,
and then after you will reap the rewards.
Maybe the Jets will be tougher.
Yeah, could be.
That's about it.
That's terrific.
All right, start-o-meter.
Ezekiel Elliott against the Giants.
He's a 10 on the start-o-meter.
Eight and a half.
Okay.
Is he top 10 guy for you?
He's top three for me.
Yeah, top 10.
They're going to limit his work, so you've got to be a little bit cautious.
Okay, how about Russell Wilson against Cincinnati?
Seven and a half.
Yeah, it's a good range.
Carson Wentz against Washington.
Eight and a half.
Eight.
Why so optimistic about Wentz?
I feel like this isn't a great matchup.
Not sure about that, but not sure how good of a matchup it is, let's say that.
I think it's a very good matchup for
him. I think that he...
I think the Eagles blow him out.
And last year when they blew out
Washington twice, Wentz had a great game.
Nick Foles had a pretty good game.
Not a great game for Foles, but that doesn't really matter. He's not the
quarterback there anymore. I think that
you're going to see Wentz take control of this offense.
Okay.
How about Darius Geis?
So
for me, it depends on what's up with AP.
If Adrian Peterson is
active and they give him a semblance
of a role, I'm
probably going to put Geis at like six.
But I'll bump him up to seven
if there's no AP.
I'm really excited to see how he's going to perform
but the matchup is not good
because game flow should not be in his favor.
And so I still will keep him like a five.
He's a flex at best
but if you can avoid him this week,
I would still do it.
Peterson or no Peterson.
Yeah, and the Eagles,
so the Eagles and the Broncos are two teams
that took a big step back in run defense last year.
And they're two teams that I really think could rebound
and get back to 2017 form.
The Eagles gave up 4.5 yards per carry
to running backs last year.
But in 2017, 3.56 yards per carry,
second-best team against running backs.
And they still have Fletcher Cox.
I feel like they have a good defensive line,
could be really good against the run.
So, you know, but yeah,
Geis got more interesting with the news
that Peterson could be a healthy scratch.
Okay, Alshon Jeffery.
Zero.
Five.
Miles Sanders.
Two.
Four.
Wait a second.
A zero on Alshon Jeffery?
How come?
I'm just not confident. He's going to play very much. None of these hurt. Perhaps he Wait a second. A zero on Alshon Jeffery? How come? I'm just not confident.
He's going to play very much.
Perhaps he catches a touchdown.
Okay. Sterling Shepard.
Four.
Six.
Marvin Jones.
Six.
Seven.
Would you start Jones over Sterling Shepard?
Yes.
Yep.
Any Arizona wide receiver?
Nope.
I'll put Kirk at six.
Really?
That's pretty high.
He's going to get slay for it.
So, no.
I don't know if he's going to get slay every play.
I say no way.
No cornerback gets every receiver every play.
There's no way. He's not
going to shadow. You think
he's going to shadow him or come close
to it? The only way he shadows them is
if Kirk gets off to a good start. Based on where they
will probably line up, he's going to see a lot of slack.
That's not true. They line
everybody up everywhere.
David Johnson, 0-10.
It's like a
7.
Yeah, 7.10. It's like a 7. Yeah, 7.
Okay.
Let's spice things up a little bit, guys.
Ooh.
All right, here we go.
Week 1.
Who's it going to be?
Which game is going to give us big fantasy production?
I'm down to two.
I still haven't decided.
I have like five seconds to make this call.
I'm going with the Saints and the Texans on Monday.
There it is.
There's your week one bonanza.
All right.
So what are you doing in regards to your survival pool?
Yeah, I don't know.
I think if I pick teams, I can't pick them again for four weeks.
Four weeks?
Yeah, four weeks.
So both teams?
Both teams.
They are out for the next four weeks.
That's going to be tough.
That's going to be very tough.
That's really tough.
And I'm doing 17 Bonanzas.
So what do you think?
Like 11?
Here's what I think it should be.
I think if you're right on the Bonanza, you can pick the team again.
And if you're wrong on the Bonanza, you're not allowed to pick those teams for four weeks.
I like that better.
It's like a coach's challenge?
No, no, no.
Four weeks.
You said you're going to challenge yourself this year, so four weeks.
I'm going to be wrong a lot.
All right.
So what record should I strive for?
I think 11-6 would be a good Bonanza record.
Fine.
Okay.
11-6.
Can't use a team again for four weeks.
So until week five, the Texans and Saints are out.
Damn it.
That's going to be tough.
Let's see what games you might be missing with those teams.
No, it's all right.
We've got to get to the games.
Okay, okay.
Let's go to Falcons at Vikings.
There are a lot of stats here, but how about this one the falcons three years in a row they've been really bad against pass
catching running backs they have given up the most the ninth most and the second most receiving
yards to opposing running backs davin cook should have a pretty good game and hopefully you know
adds on with some passing work there um all right so so Matt Ryan is 18th for Dave and Jamie,
20th for Heath.
Get away from him.
Would you start Kirk Cousins over Matt Ryan?
I would.
No.
All right.
Believe it, baby.
This mediocre milquetoast game is going to be better
than what Matt Ryan gives you.
Well, you'd start Garoppolo over Cousins, right?
I'd start Garoppolo over every quarterback in the Vikings.
Every what, huh?
Wow.
Kyle Slaughter, Matt Schaub.
Mike Zimmer gets a helmet on and goes under center.
All right.
So, Devon, speaking of run defenses that weren't as good as they were.
Oh, wow.
You took yourself out of a Saints-Cowboys primetime game.
Damn it.
Only if it's a bad bonanza.
Nope. No, no. Four weeks, babe. Four games. Four weeks. Only if it's a bad bonanza. Nope.
No, no.
Four weeks, babe.
Four games.
Four weeks.
Wow.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
I'm Joe Pesci in Lethal Weapon.
Okay, okay, okay.
Devontae Freeman.
So this was a fun little statistic here.
I looked at every running back in Minnesota over the last two seasons.
Basically every team.
And here were the rushing yards for the leading rusher
for every team at Minnesota last two years.
18.
Yeah, it's amazing.
18, 15, 94 for Amir Abdullah, of course.
41, 30, 37, 30, 13, 43.
So in 2017, in nine games,
only one team had a running back
with more than 43 rushing yards at Minnesota.
Things changed last year, though.
In fact, the last three teams in 2018
to go to Minnesota had a running back
with 72 or more rushing yards,
and they lost Sheldon Richardson.
So it's a terrible matchup for Matt Ryan.
What about for Devontae Freeman?
Not great.
I think he's low on starter.
I put him in the same range as I would have going into last night,
like Aaron Jones and Damian Williams, those guys that you're going to start,
but you probably would rather have other options
because they're not going to be very good.
I guess I'm a little more optimistic
because I think he can make plays out of the backfield
on top of getting you those alluring 30 yards on the ground
that you're describing to us.
No, I mean, it could be better.
Their run defense was not great last year,
and they lost a run stuffer.
So, you know, it could be better.
Would you start Devontae Freeman or Kenyon Drake?
Freeman.
Eckler or Freeman?
Eckler.
Freeman in non.
Pretty sure I have Freeman ahead in PPR, too.
Phillip Lindsay or Devante Freeman?
Lindsay.
Freeman.
Okay.
All right.
So a little bit of a difference there.
How about Julio Jones?
I mean, look, I'm not going to go with Julio Jones in DFS
because Xavier Rhodes does an amazing job,
but obviously you're starting him.
What about Calvin Ridley or Sanu?
I think Ridley's a high-end third receiver,
but you're probably going to start him more often than not.
Agreed.
And Sanu is a desperation PPR flex.
All right, so assuming Antonio Brown is out,
would you start Tyrell Williams or Calvin Ridley?
Ridley.
If Julio Jones is out?
I'm sorry, I say Julio Jones is out.
No, if Antonio Brown is out.
Brown.
If Brown is out, I'd still start Ridley.
If Julio is out, is that good or bad for Ridley?
Probably about the same for him.
I think it's worse for him.
Xavier Rhodes is amazing.
Yeah, and Trey Waynes isn't bad
either.
They allowed the fewest fantasy points to the wide receivers.
I know you're excited about
these guys, about Ridley in particular.
You might want to get away
from him.
Austin Hooper.
What do you think?
I would try and not start him.
Waller.
Wait, where's my Hooper drop?
Where's my Hooper drop?
I have a Hooper drop.
You dropped it.
The podcast comes to a screeching halt
because you can't find your Hooper drop.
I got it.
Stop playing with yourself, Hooper.
Okay.
How about Kirk Cousins we don't love,
Dalvin Cook we love, right?
He's my best friend for this week.
He's a must start.
Just for fun,
Cook or Zeke?
You can make the case for Cook.
Yeah, I play Cook.
Are you in any league, any format, starting Alexander Madison?
No.
No.
All right.
And then how do you feel about Diggs and Thielen?
Like Diggs.
I like Thielen better.
Yeah, I like Diggs better.
I think they're both going to be fine.
They're going to start both.
Okay.
Okay, just to throw this out there,
Atlanta was absolutely terrible against quarterbacks last year.
Different team.
Yeah.
How different?
I mean, every good quarterback that they faced had a good game.
The whole middle of their defense was gone.
That's great, but the outside of the defense is still there.
And are they going to be able to lay hands on Kirk Cousins enough
to make him jittery?
Well, how will Kirk Cousins perform against a team that's actually good?
Because he tends to fold in those games.
Yeah, I don't know if Atlanta is going to be that good.
I think Cousins can find two touchdowns and 225 yards.
And Diggs and Thielen can probably reap the benefits of most of that.
It'll probably be one of them getting close to 80 yards
and the other one probably getting close to 80 yards
in the touchdown.
It was really more about Cousins.
No excitement for him.
No. It's week one, dude.
Everybody's got a quarterback.
I'm starting him.
You're starting Kirk Cousins?
I'm starting him over Stafford, though, and I don't think that's the easiest decision.
I'd go Stafford.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, like, it's hard to ignore how bad quarterbacks were against Arizona
because they just ran the ball all the time against Arizona.
So I am going to go Cousins, but I can see that that is a toss-up.
And if you had to pick a tight end in this game, who would it be?
I would go with Hooper.
I guess it's Hooper.
All right, Hooper.
All right.
And the Minnesota DST, you can start them, but they're not great.
12th for Jamie, 13th for Dave, 8th for Heath.
By the way, what's the spread in this game?
Four.
For the Vikings?
Yeah.
Vikings minus four.
It's a big game.
It's a fun game.
I think I'd go Falcons there.
I think you'd be wrong.
Okay. Well, I don't know that they're going to win. I think they'll cover.
Would you like to make a wager?
No.
Let's wager a milkshake.
You know what I'd like to do, Dave?
Go on to the next game?
Take a break and then go on to the next game. Rams at Panthers.
We'll be right back.
Rams at Panthers.
Yeah, actually, I don't
feel like I have a great grip on this game
and how it's going to go.
I don't know if it's going to be high scoring
or more like low 40s with the points or something like that.
It should be high scoring, right?
But what do you think?
What do you think about Rams-Panthers?
I like a bunch of players in this game.
Ultimately, I think Carolina can win.
I like that they're at home.
I think their defense is. I like that they're at home.
I think their defense is actually a little underrated.
And really curious to see how that Rams offensive line holds up. And obviously curious to see Todd Gurley, how much work he gets,
how he looks, how effective he is, et cetera, et cetera.
How explosive is he?
All of these questions will be answered in Charlotte this Sunday.
Jared Goff or Cam Newton?
I'm going Cam.
Yeah, Cam.
Jared Goff or Russell Wilson?
Goff.
I believe I have Goff ranked higher.
Okay.
And I would take whoever's cheaper in DFS.
Everybody's got Goff right around 10th, 11th, 10th, 12th for Jamie Dave Heath.
I have Goff 10, Russ 11.
Yeah, I wish I felt like this is going to be a huge game for Goff, but just kind of
like a good game, right?
Well, it could be huge.
And I think, again, it comes down to Gurley.
If Gurley isn't himself or if the Rams don't let him be himself, then it's going to fall
on Goff to move the chains.
Yeah, I've made the argument that Goff needs Gurley,
that good Gurley is good for Goff.
Of course.
But I made that argument.
It's about play action.
Yeah, but I actually made that argument
because he's so good in the passing game,
but I don't know what Gurley's passing game role
will be this year with Daryl Henderson around now.
It could be expanded
because if they're seriously concerned about Gurley taking a beating, then spreading him out and using him more as a receiver is a way to keep his body just a little bit fresher.
Cause now he's working on the outside edges and down the sideline instead of the middle of the field and between the tackles and that it's easy dispersal of the football.
Uh, to just throw to screens and dump offs and stuff like that to your running backs.
And that is obviously good for Goff.
All right.
So we're starting the quarterbacks in this game.
Goff is around 11th and Cam is 7th for Jamie, 4th for Dave, 3rd for Heath.
So we love Cam this week.
All right.
We're starting the running backs as well.
Now, what do you do with the Rams wide receivers?
Well, I think you're going to start all three of them,
and it doesn't really matter what the rankings say
because they're all pretty outstanding,
and they all have potential every week to be great.
I've got Cooks as a top 12 guy against Carolina.
I like Cooper Cup next best.
I like the matchup for him in the slot.
I think he's somebody that would benefit if
the Rams decide to not run
a ton. And you know
that he's the red zone buddy for Jared
Goff. Seems like he's healthy. Seems like
he's back to normal. So I'm willing
to trust Cup as a top 20
fantasy receiver this week in PPR.
You're starting all three of them.
I would still put Woods ahead of Cup just to see how he looks,
but I think Woods is also going to have
probably more targets
in the game. It's just a matter of early score.
So Cooks is still the big play
threat. Woods will probably lead them in targets. Cup
will probably fall somewhere third in line,
but they're all top 24 receivers.
I'll say 6 for 75
for Robert Woods every week.
Maybe even more catches than that.
And would you start Cooper Cup or
Devante Freeman? Cup.
Alright, what about the
Carolina wide receivers? Any interest in them?
I like Curtis Samuel.
I like whoever I think can
match up the most against Marcus Peters, who's
good, but he allows lots of numbers
and I think Samuel's speed
and route running can help him get
open against LA. It's not
going to be easy for either one of these
guys. I've got Samuel as a
very low end, like the lowest of low
end number two fantasy receivers
and DJ Moore is a
flex PPR flex. I put
them both in the flex range, but
I still take DJ Moore over Samuel. Would you
take them over Devante Freeman? I'll I'd still take D.J. Moore over Samuel. Would you take them over Devontae Freeman?
I'll keep going back to him.
In PPR, yes.
It's close in PPR.
Not in PPR, there's no way.
A lot of talent on this Rams defense, but they did not play all that well last year, really.
There were seven teams that had multiple wide receivers who had good or great games against the Rams.
That's a ton.
That's the most I've found.
I don't know that's the most in fantasy,
but I've tried to look at, hey, how many times did this defense
give up good games to multiple wide receivers?
It happened seven times.
Minnesota, Seattle, Denver, Green Bay, New Orleans, Kansas City, Dallas.
Seven times against the Rams.
That's really a lot.
I don't know.
I mean, when you drafted Moore and Samuel,
I almost feel like you want to wait and see, right?
We didn't draft them necessarily based on last year.
They didn't put up big numbers.
We drafted them based on potential.
So I'm not super excited to start them.
But that did give me a little bit more faith.
They were not good against wide receivers last year.
No, and they are high floor PPR receivers
because I think they can each catch anywhere from 4 to 8 balls a week
and average anywhere from 10 to 15 yards per catch.
Okay, final question here in this game.
Are you considering a tight end in this game?
I mean, the Panthers were a joke last year against tight ends.
Guys like Hooper, Uzama, Eifert, Vernon Davis, Dallas Goddard,
Vance McDonald, and Jesse James caught touchdowns.
They were so bad.
And then Greg Olson, you know, Greg Olson.
Not really.
I'd consider Olson. Not really. I'd consider Olson.
But, you know, the strangest contract I've seen in a while
was the Tyler Higby extension.
Yeah.
I didn't understand that.
Is he a sleeper?
You don't value a blocker?
Okay, he's not a sleeper.
San Francisco at Tampa Bay.
Stat of the game.
Wide receivers against Tampa Bay.
Six teams.
I said seven for the Rams.
Six teams had multiple wide receivers have good games against Tampa Bay.
New Orleans, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Atlanta, Cincinnati,
and then once again Atlanta.
So it's five teams but six times.
How much confidence do you have in Pettis or Goodwin this week?
I don't mind Pettis
as a flex. I think
that he's the most startable receiver
for the 49ers.
I like the matchup in the slot
against Tampa Bay. MJ
Stewart, I think, is going to end up being their slot corner
and I don't think he's very good. I think that's a matchup
they can exploit. The thing is
that they could exploit it with any of the
receivers. The beauty of what Kyle Shanahan's got is that any of his guys can line up anywhere
on the field, but it's Pettis who lined up in the slot the most as preseason.
Pettis is the one who lined up in the slot the most last season, at least compared to Goodwin
and Debo Samuel wasn't on the team. And we're not really considering the other guys that they have.
So those, those are the reasons why I'm a little optimistic about Pettis in week one.
I'd take Goodwin.
I just think he's got the better rapport with Garoppolo.
I think Garoppolo will lean on him a little bit more.
I want to see something from Pettis first before I trust him because right now
he looks lost.
Yeah, ultimately I went with Goodwin in DFS because he's cheaper.
Same.
Yep, same here.
Yeah, but there's a case to be made for both of them.
I think, Jamie, you look at the Niners in this game.
They should score points, but it's so hard to know,
other than Kittle, where it's going to come from.
So what's your take on what to expect with the running backs?
You just said you prefer Goodwin,
but I guess going to the running backs now, Coleman versus Breida.
I still prefer Coleman.
If you look at the snap count for what happened when Garoppolo was on the field,
it was still in Coleman's favor.
So I don't buy into the unofficial depth chart that Brita's the starter.
He may get the first carry.
I don't think it's going to be a messy situation like what we saw with the Bears last night
where they have both guys on the field to start the game,
and then it's not the guy you're expecting to see.
I expect it to be both guys playing,
both guys having the chance to be successful.
I'd call Coleman a number two running back,
Brita a high-end flex,
and I think you could get good production
out of both guys in this matchup.
It was easy for me to recommend Tevin Coleman
over guys who had bad matchups,
but how high do you have him ranked, I guess?
Would you start him over Devontante Freeman, Tevin Coleman?
No.
Yes.
I would not.
But I have both as number two running backs.
Coleman's a low-end number two for me.
Yeah, I have him back-to-back.
I have Coleman at 20, Freeman at 21.
How about Duke Johnson or Tevin Coleman?
I'll go with Duke.
I would take Duke and PPR.
How about Matt Breida or Tyrell Williams?
Breida.
Breida.
How about...
Maybe Tyrell and PPR.
All right, you know Garoppolo is okay to start
if you don't like Matt Ryan, Aaron Rodgers.
Jameis, we love this week.
And all right, are you going to gamble at all?
I'm certainly not.
I have a lot of Ronald Jones, but I'm not
throwing any Tampa Bay running back out there.
Should we just wait and see? Wait and see.
Dario Gumbawale is a nice
beat-the-waiver-wire guy. We should have
mentioned him.
San Francisco allowed
4.1 yards per carry
to running backs last year. They held
Dalvin Cook, Kareem Hunt, David Johnson twice,
Todd Gurley, Saquon Barkley, and Chris Carson
once out of two games to fewer than 70 rushing yards.
So I don't know.
I thought it was a good matchup, but maybe it is not.
And no hesitation at all, obviously, with Evans,
but with Godwin, must start?
Must start.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
Do you care about this in DFS?
I know you're going to start
him in seasonal,
but OJ Howard,
the Niners allowed
the fourth fewest fantasy points
to tight ends.
They did not allow
more than 46 yards
to a tight end
in any of their last nine games
and only one touchdown
in that stretch,
but I think a lot of that
was the competition they played.
So, you know,
what do you think about Howard?
I think he's not worth the squeeze. He's the fourth most expensive tight end on DraftKings. Evan Ingram is cheaper. Hunter Henry is cheaper. Darren Waller, much, much cheaper. So look, if you're going to spend five thousand on O.J. Howard, maybe a pony up an extra eleven hundred to go to Ertz, or you dial down 200 to get Evan Ingram.
I actually liked Hunter Henry because the Colts are just so bad against tight ends.
He's 1,100 less than O.J. Howard.
Ingram, good history against the Cowboys.
Two good games last year against the Cowboys.
Detroit at Arizona.
Henry's going to be very popular.
This is an interesting game to me, Detroit at Arizona.
Really interesting.
I would say, and tell me if you agree,
the only player that I feel like is definitely going to have a good game
is Kerryon Johnson.
Oh, I think Holiday does.
I knew you were going to say that, and I hope you're right.
If Patrick Peterson were playing, it'd be different.
But I just can't get over the fact that teams did not throw,
did not pass the ball on Arizona last year.
They didn't have to.
And I just have this fear that Marvin Jones is going to be too good
and it's going to hold Gallaudet back.
But I don't know.
What's your take on Detroit?
I think you're right.
I think Kerryon Johnson, and and listen as much as i want to
buy into carry on johnson being a slam dunk running back and everybody's going to start him
the lions could fool around and put cj anderson in there and short yardage goal line situations and
take points away from carry on you're still going to start them like i said and i think you're still
going to start holiday and i think marvin jones isn't bad either it's it's a little risky but not the matchup's great
if arizona's offense holds up its end of the bargain then all three of those guys
are going to be outstanding and so will matthew stafford
and if arizona's offense stinks you know their defense stinks
it's going to be more of carry on johnson and less
fewer targets for the other receivers it's going to be a little bit harder for
them so really it comes down to the cardinals Johnson and fewer targets for the other receivers. It's going to be a little bit harder for them.
So really it comes down to the Cardinals.
And I want to make it clear.
I mean, I'm starting Galladay across the board.
There's no question.
Jamie's got him 12th.
Heath has him 13th in non-PPR.
Dave's got him 17th in non-PPR, 20th in PPR.
So Galladay is a start.
Marvin Jones is a number three wide receiver.
Really good opportunity here against a team that is just bad on defense
for sure.
And then, which quarterback
do you like better in this game? Because kind of
underrated, like the Lions
had, the Lions were
terrible against the pass last
year. Just terrible. They didn't see,
they saw the third fewest pass attempts
per game, but on a per attempt
basis, awful.
So, Kyler Murray or Matthew Stafford?
I have Murray ranked higher.
I'll take Stafford.
Okay.
Five quarterbacks scored 20 or more fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown leagues
with fewer than 30 pass attempts
against the Lions last year.
And they should have a better defense,
but I don't know about their secondary.
Is it bad that I'm nervous about David Johnson?
No, I'm a little nervous too.
I think most people are nervous,
just given what the preseason showed us,
but there are still people taking him in the first round.
Yeah, I mean, this is the discovery mode now,
to see if, okay, it's not necessarily the play calling
because we know the play calling is going to be different from what we saw in the preseason.
Is it the offensive line going to be the same that we saw in the preseason?
And that's the concern because I'm full agreement with what Cliff Kingsbury and the Carls were saying.
This is not what we're going to look like.
But it's X's and O's versus Jimmy's and Joe's.
They're not all of a sudden going to morph into the Cowboys offensive line
just because the plays are different.
So they may play up-tempo.
They may be able to do some things that are a little bit creative.
Will they be able to hold up against Trey Flowers and Snacks and Mike Daniels?
It's a tough group up front.
And if they can do that, then David Johnson will be fine.
And if they get him the ball in space, he'll be fine.
And, you know, I said this on one of our programs earlier this week.
We were saying that the Lions defense was going to slaughter a rookie quarterback last year in their own building.
And Sam Darnold threw a pick six on his first attempt.
And then he lit them up.
And so Kyler Murray could do that,
and David Johnson could have a big game.
So I think it's just a matter of, you know,
for Johnson, you're obviously starting him.
For Kyler and the receivers,
it's just a matter of who you're comparing him to.
And so I'm going to take a cautious approach,
but I'm hopeful that he comes out and plays well.
Okay.
And, yeah, I mean, that Mike Daniels addition
is also pretty significant.
Also, I think they like their rookie linebacker
Jelani Tavai, who they drafted in the second round.
It could be a very good run defense,
but you've got to start David Johnson.
People took him fifth overall,
even late in the process. I saw a draft the day
before the season started. He went fifth overall.
You're starting him.
Then we said the wide receivers.
Christian Kirk. Dave has Kirk said the wide receivers, you know.
Christian Kirk.
Dave has Kirk inside his top 30, barely.
Mm-hmm.
So, okay.
All right, yeah, that's fine.
Detroit DST.
This is weird.
Eighth for Jamie, 17th for Heath, not ranked for Dave.
Yeah, I'm a believer in the passing game for Arizona.
Okay. And Jamie, you say stream the lions
i think they're gonna sack kyler murray probably five or six times just based on he still may play
well but i think they're gonna hit him and i think they're gonna probably get a turnover or two um
you know young quarterback in his first you know start against you know again a very good defensive
front i think darius slay is gonna take away one of the receivers. My opinion is going to be Christian Kirk.
I could see the Lions defense.
They're going to try and slow the game down as much as they can
because that's what they're going to try and do to
counter this expected
offense from the Cardinals. They're going to have success.
I just buy into that defensive front. I think it's going to
be really, really hard on that Cardinals offense.
I think the Cardinals...
No, I think the Lions are going to win.
Oh, I can see Arizona winning.
Yeah, I almost said it, so I can see it.
Yeah, I'll say it.
Cardinals will win. Jamie? I think the Lions
will win. Lions, okay. Alright, one last break.
We got three games left. We got the Cowboys
and the Giants, the Eagles
and the Redskins, and the Bengals and the
Seahawks, because we have to. We'll be right back.
And the game of the week. Cow, and the Bengals, and the Seahawks, because we have to. We'll be right back. And the game of the week.
Cowboys hosting the Giants.
Stat of the game number one, and the only one.
Jason Witten has 15 touchdown catches in 30 games against the Giants.
Huh?
Huh?
Huh?
Okay.
Stardom.
Dude, I need Heath on the show right now to tell me why he has Dak Prescott.
Fifth! Fifth!
It is quarterback rankings.
I was so upset that Heath is not here today for any of our shows
because I was going to say, take your victory lap on David Montgomery
and the fact that Mike Davis got more work,
and then take your walk of shame for Mitchell Trubisky.
Yeah, yeah.
But didn't you want to ask him about Dak?
Yeah, sure.
Okay.
So Heath, how come you have Dak fifth overall?
Dave has him 15th and Jamie 13th this week.
Heath?
Come on.
Dave?
Yes.
Dave does a pretty good Heath.
I guess he doesn't want to do it on the show.
Well, you guys are not quite as optimistic.
Yeah.
He has faced the Giants in week one or two, three straight seasons at home,
and he has scored 10, 18, and 16 fantasy points.
And somehow, I don't really know why,
the Giants were not bad against quarterbacks last year.
They held Dak, Breeze, Cam, Ryan, and Wentz to 21 or fewer fantasy points.
It was just weird.
I'm curious to see how Mark Cooper is going to do at less than 100%.
And Genovese Jenkins did a good job against them in the one meeting last year.
And so just wonder if he's going to be a great start this week.
You're obviously starting him, but I don't know if he's a great start.
Yeah, but you would take Russell Wilson over him.
Over Dak, yeah.
Over Dak.
Oh, you're talking about Cooper.
Right.
Actually, the thing I really wanted to know about this game
was how both teams did against number one receivers.
And they both faced very good ones.
The Giants did well against Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper,
Alshon Jeffrey once, then guys like Devin Funches, Corey Davis.
Julio Jones, T.Y. Hilton, Mike Evans had huge games.
Alshon Jeffrey had a big game.
Dallas was very good.
They held Beckham, Michael Thomas to less than 60 yards.
They held Sterling Shepard to four for 67 without Beckham.
They did okay against T.Y. Hilton.
But big games to Hopkins, Julio, Evans, and Lockett.
But what I'm saying is both teams have
at least one very good cornerback.
So I didn't know how you guys were going to feel
about Cooper and Shepard this week.
I don't love either one.
I think you're definitely starting Cooper.
And Shepard is a number three receiver
that has a chance to finish in the top 24.
But it's not easy situations for either guy.
Okay. Would you start Matt Breida or Sterling Shepard?
Shepard PPR for sure.
Yeah, probably Shepard in both situations.
I think I would too, but it's much closer in non-PPR.
And those are the only tough calls, right?
Barkley, Zeke for sure.
What about Tony Pollard, any interest?
No, absolutely not.
Deep leagues? Absolutely
because you're going to probably see 10
touches.
Maybe a chance to kill a clock
because I think the Cowboys are playing with the lead.
What?
Sorry, I'm not a stretch.
I don't think
in the fourth quarter of a game that's locked up
they're going to see Zeke out there, which is why I think
his projection is spot on.
16 carries. My guess for him is probably
about 80 yards and a touchdown.
You're obviously starting Ezekiel, no matter
where you see him ranked.
I don't see him having a monster
blow-up game.
Here's a tough one, I think. Would you
start deep league or
DFS, Tony Pollard or Rashad Penny?
I like Penny's matchup, too, so I'd still start Penny.
I would too.
Okay.
Dallas DST is top six, and Evan Ingram is a must start.
Dallas was good against tight ends but didn't face good ones.
When they did, they got beat up by Ingram twice and by Ertz one time.
So that's all you need to know.
And okay.
Moving on.
Cincinnati at Seattle.
So this is...
Okay, start Mixon.
Start Carson for sure.
They're both like good or...
Carson's a great start.
What about Mixon?
Carson's amazing
and his price is cheap in DFS.
He's going to be started by everybody
in DFS.
Mixon, your thoughts?
Excited?
No.
Not excited.
Again, you're starting him.
It's almost like the same boat as David Johnson. Gotcha.
So any interest in Geo?
No.
Yeah, I mean, you might see like, ah, they're going to be trailing.
Geo's going to catch a lot of passes.
He caught 26 passes in 10 games with Mixon.
Like, he just doesn't get work when Mixon's there.
How do you feel about Tyler Boyd?
I think he'll get good volume.
I believe the Seahawks have a new slot corner this year.
So there could be an opportunity for him
to get a 6-for for 70 type of stat line.
So clearly better in PPR than non.
You probably draft him to be your number two receiver, your priority flex.
Go ahead and stick with it.
Yeah, he's the only receiver you can start, though.
Correct.
The only one you should start.
Damian Willis is not a starting guy, just a stash guy.
Although, you know, the Dynasty League that we're in together, Jamie,
and you know my team,
like the receivers are butt ugly.
I'm starting Damon Willis.
It's really the most embarrassing
group of receivers you'll ever see.
That's a three-receiver, two-flex league, so yeah.
It's understandable you're starting in that type of format.
If I were playing in a three-receiver, two-flex league,
should I roll the dice
on DK Metcalf?
No.
I would if I had the receiver in core that I've got in this dynasty league.
I wish I had DK Metcalf.
Rashad Penny is around 30th.
So, you know, it's just, it's not the worst flyer. This was arguably the worst defense and the best fantasy matchup last year, Cincinnati.
And I don't really see how they've gotten any better on defense.
Really.
They're great.
They suck.
Uh,
Tyler Lockett,
top 12 and non PPR top 15 and PPR Cincinnati allowed 100 yards or a
touchdown to a wide receiver in 13 of 16 games.
And that's pretty much all I have to say about this.
Oh,
we'll disley.
So yeah,
the,
the,
I gave you the stat earlier.
They allowed the most fantasy points to tight ends,
and there were 10 tight ends that caught a touchdown
with five or fewer targets against Seattle.
So I guess give me some guys that you would start Disley over.
Hooper.
Rudolph.
I would have said Jimmy.
I did say Jimmy Graham.
That one may prove foolish.
I just think that, you know,
given the targets available to Russell Wilson
and given the matchup,
it's a good situation for him.
Like, I don't know how much Metcalf's going to play.
I like the fact that he's healthy,
but he's going to be out there for 50% of the snaps,
100% of the snaps.
You know, I just don't know.
Who's a better flyer, Tyler Eifert or Will Disley?
Disley. Yeah, I'll take Disley. Washington's a better flyer, Tyler Eifert or Will Disley? Disley.
Yeah, I'll take Disley.
Washington and Philadelphia, our last game.
Stat of the game.
Geno's considers provolone or American cheese more authentic,
but on Pat's introduction of Cheez Whiz,
it quickly became a topping of choice.
That is from blog.bitescourt.com.
Okay, now you know everything about cheese steaks.
Hmm.
So where do we go here?
We talked about Darius Geis.
Geis or Penny?
Geis.
Geis or Sanders?
I'll go Sanders.
Yeah, I'll take Sanders.
Who are you excited about in this game other than Zach Ertz and Wentz?
Deshaun Jackson.
Oh, yeah, let's talk about him.
Revenge game.
Good opportunity.
I think his speed is going to be tough for the Redskins secondary to cover.
It's the revenge game.
You know how he is in revenge games sometimes.
And I think Philadelphia is going to try and show him off a little bit.
This is an area of their offense that they wanted to improve on,
and I'm almost certain he'll get at least two or three deep targets in the game.
Would you start Chris Thompson over Miles Sanders?
It would have to be PPR. PPR, yes.
Yeah, that's not hard in PPR.
I don't know about that.
I mean, Sanders could get featured a little bit.
Look, we saw what
happened with david montgomery yesterday so i think that's exactly where i was right i think
you gotta pull okay okay fair enough and take a be patient be patient the the washington defensive
line you know could be good i was just reading on espn this morning um they have duron pain and
jonathan allen they're excited about on their line and this was what the story on ESPN.com noted in the first nine games last
season before quarterback,
Alex Smith was injured.
The Redskins were six and three.
Thanks to a defense that was fourth in points allowed.
The unit was tied for first in the NFL,
having allowed only 17 points off turnovers.
Here's why the Redskins to turn the ball over only seven times in those games
during that stretch,
their opponents had the third worst starting field position.
So that's interesting. I mean, that was with Alex
Smith. The defense played well.
I guess they started turning the ball over. The field position was
worse. The defense got worse.
It's just kind of cool.
All right. And then if Jordan
Reed plays, do you like him? If Alshon Jeffrey plays,
do you like him?
I mean, Reed, yes. Low end starter. Alshon Jeffrey plays, do you like him? I mean, Reed, yes.
Low-end starter. Alshon
would be a third receiver.
He's going to play.
Yeah, I don't know why you're not...
The injury is bugging you out?
Yeah, I mean, I'm joking when I said zero
before, but I think, look,
he is what he is.
If he gets seven-plus targets, he'll be fine.
If he doesn't, which is, I think, going to be more along the lines of the norm,
given all the mouths they have to feed in this offense.
So I think he's going to be one of those touchdown or bust type of guys.
Like,
you know,
I,
I don't think he's going to have an Allen Robinson game where he's getting 12 targets and goes seven for a hundred.
Well,
here's what Jeffrey did in two games against the Redskins.
Three for 31 and five for 59 and a touchdown.
I mean,
he's going to see Josh Norman, so it's not going to be easy.
They don't typically travel
Norman, but they don't move Jeffrey.
Well, he plays the left side, right side.
He's an outside perimeter receiver.
They did, you know, they gave up,
the Redskins gave up a lot of touchdowns
to number one receivers like Hilton
and Adams and
not Michael Thomas.
Mike Evans, no, not Mike Evans.
Julio Jones.
They faced some very good ones.
Amari Cooper.
But they actually did pretty good from a yard standpoint.
They held Adams, Evans, Hopkins, and Alshon twice to less than 60 receiving yards.
And that's all I got, folks.
Enjoy week one, man.
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