Fantasy Football Today - 09/10: Waiver Wire! Who to Add and Drop (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 10, 2019

It looks like a great week for the Waiver Wire. If you're lucky enough to have Tyrell Williams or T.J. Hockenson available in your league, go get them! But who else are our top priorities this week (4...:35)? Which rookie WR should you target? How should you approach Giovani Bernard? Who are the players you need to get in shallower leagues (12:40)? We also get into general Waiver Wire and FAAB philosophies (18:00) ... News and notes (24:00) with a Todd Gurley thought, and a recap of PIT-NE (30:00), DEN-OAK (31:15) and HOU-NO (35:00). Then we talk about how much FAAB to spend on the key players (36:50) and we've got the Dropometer (40:00) to try to help you figure out who to cut loose ... Waiver Wire QBs (42:15) including Josh Allen and Matthew Stafford, RBs (46:00) including Bernard, Ronald Jones and Chris Thompson, WRs (53:00) including Marquise Brown, John Brown and John Ross, TEs (59:30) including Darren Waller and Jimmy Graham, plus DSTs and Kickers ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Let's hit the waiver wire. Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and T. So which rookie wide receiver are you prioritizing?
Starting point is 00:00:21 Is there anyone that's worth spending, you know, a lot, a big chunk of your fab on? And why didn't anyone on this show pump up Darren Waller? I mean, come on. Wow. What a whiff on our part. Welcome to the Week 1 Waiver Wire. Dave, how'd you miss on that guy? You know,
Starting point is 00:00:40 I thought he'd have a chance to score and maybe get like 80 yards. Hawkinson clearly was the better tight end so far, and he probably will be the rest of the season. So Waller, look, it was nice that he had eight targets and seven catches, but 70 yards, that's the bar that I always set for myself for a tight end. He hit that bar but didn't go over it by very much.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Oh, come on. What is this? This is a chance for you to be really happy. What is it? It's resulted. The result, listen. He was great. I'm not, because he had an amazing first half.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Hold on, hold on. So in the first half, everybody's going crazy. Adam, you're tweeting out gifs of Ric Flair. Gifs. Assuming that that's how I'm feeling. Yeah. I don't care what it is. And I'm just like, so what?
Starting point is 00:01:23 He has 50 yards in the first half and then the broncos actually started to take him away you could see that they had a corner on him when he lined up wide and the safety was there kind of 10 yards further downfield to try and deter derrick carr from throwing to him it worked out great for tyrell williams it did not work out so well in the second half for darren waller so it's a nice start. It's better than OJ Howard or Jared Cook or Zach Ertz. Really? He was better than all of them. And if you've got him on your team, that's great. But it wasn't the big breakout that I thought it would be. Maybe next week we'll get it. Oh, man. OK, well, I you know, I was expecting it. I thought he was awesome. He was awesome. I couldn't be happier for what you got from him.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yes, I'm pumped about it. Good job to anybody who had Darren Waller, 59% owned. And he's certainly a top-level player. Dave and Heath should be taking victory lapses. Yeah, I don't know. Two years ago, I had Kenny Galladay all pumped up, and he scored two touchdowns in his debut. So maybe I just have higher standards than,
Starting point is 00:02:25 maybe my standards are just a little too high in general. Look, if you've got Waller on your team, you beat everybody to the punch. That's the good news. Absolutely. And same thing with Hawkinson, who still might be available. Hawkinson is, what, 76% owned.
Starting point is 00:02:37 So we're going to talk about guys that are going to be available just in the shallower leagues, and of course, players that are available in a lot of leagues. Marquise Brown's going to headline that list, and Gio Bernard is going to headline that list. Good morning, Jamie. How are you? I'm great. How are you?
Starting point is 00:02:52 I'm good, man. I'm fired up. I've got a lot of waiver wiring to do. It's going to be a long night of setting waiver claims and getting my bids in. There are a lot of players that I want. I went back and I looked at last year's notes for the first week of waiver wires, and there were a lot of, you know, like Tyrod Taylor was on there. The quarterbacks I doubt we were very excited about, but Aaron Jones was on that. Phillip Lindsay was like 2% owned. The wide receivers were pretty good.
Starting point is 00:03:18 We found some guys that were extremely useful in week one, so don't just poo-poo it. Some of these performances are really important. Let's run through the big news real quick and set up the waiver wire here. Joe Mixon, he's got an ankle injury. He could play week two, and it's going to be kind of annoying because you might make Giovanni Bernard your number. Who let the dogs out? Is that Heath?
Starting point is 00:03:43 No, that's me. Yeah, so Dave's working from home right now. And Dave's got a loud house. But anyway, you could make Gio your number one waiver wire priority and Mixon could play. And that's just part of the gamble here. But we know it's having Coleman's out. We know Darius Geis is out. Coleman's at Cincinnati or the Niners are at Cincinnati and Adrian Peterson and Chris Thompson are going to face Dallas. Baker Mayfield should be fine. He had x-ray on his hand, but you heard Dr.
Starting point is 00:04:10 David Chow talk about it. Didn't like that the thumb was being looked at there. Nick Foles is on IR designated to return. So Gardner Minshew gets the keys and Houston could be a defense that you want to stream. Juju Smith-Schuster hurt his toe, but he should be fine. Do we know about Mike Williams? Do we expect Mike Williams to play?
Starting point is 00:04:27 As of now, no. Not as of now. Okay. All right, so that's the big news. Who are your top waiver wire priorities? Jamie, I'll kick it to you first. Well, I mean, there are some guys, like you mentioned, that you could find on waivers still if they are there.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Hawkinson and Waller would be two. Waller is available and and still the threshold that we talk about under 65 percent uh but hawkinson like you said 76 percent owned um tyrell williams at 77 percent owned i think those are two guys you can look at and feel comfortable with if we're just talking about the guys that you you should be able to find uh john brown would be number one for me uh if joe Mixon's out and you find out before tonight that the situation's worse, we're probably not going to. I would say Giovanni Bernard should definitely be on your priority list.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And then I think Jamison Crowder as well. You know, I mean, you got to be excited about what he did in his debut with 17 targets and 14 catches. And if you just look at Adam Gase's track record, he loves slot receivers, and that's the slot receiver for the Jets. Okay. I agree. I like... Go ahead. Just look at Adam Gase's track record. He loves slot receivers, and that's the slot receiver for the Jets. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I agree. I like – Go ahead. Yeah, I agree with everything he said. I think there's room. Let's just say that you won in week one, and you've got Dante Pettis on your bench. You're tired of Eric Ebron already. You want to speculate on somebody. Not somebody that you have to rush on your bench. You're tired of Eric Ebron already. You want to speculate on somebody,
Starting point is 00:05:46 not somebody that you have to rush into your lineup. I think Marquise Brown's the guy. And I know he didn't play a lot of snaps in week one, but it's pretty clear that he's once he does start playing a lot of snaps, he's going to be matchup proof, provided that he can stay healthy, provided that Lamar Jackson can find him downfield. And those are kind of big ifs, of course, but I don't mind grabbing him and stashing him knowing that he's 70% unowned in CBS leagues. He wouldn't be my top priority, especially if I needed lineup help this week. But if I didn't need that lineup help, I would strongly consider making a move for him. Yeah, he could certainly help you this week against Arizona
Starting point is 00:06:25 as we saw that their defense is not very good. Dave, you would rather have rest of season John Brown or Marquise Brown? Brown. John Brown. I can't believe I said Brown. I'm such a moron. But John Brown, who I draft in a lot of leagues, by the
Starting point is 00:06:42 way, I liked him coming into the season as well. He'd look good right away. Hopefully he keeps this up. I would also take Crowder over Marquise Brown, especially in PPR. Okay, so you guys are in agreement there. John Brown and Jamison Crowder over Marquise Brown. Brown is Jamie's third highest ranked wide receiver. Now that does not include Tyrell Williams.
Starting point is 00:07:01 It doesn't include, like where's Tyrell Williams? He's 77%. Let's say he's available, where's Tyrell Williams? He's 77%. Let's say he's available. Number one. Number one. He's at the top. What was everybody doing? I mean, this is not us having a new take.
Starting point is 00:07:14 We told you. Heath had Tyrell as a sleeper for a while. But we told you, as soon as there was a buzz about Antonio Brown not playing in week one, you got to go out and get Tyrell Williams. And the ownership percentage just did not rise enough. Some leagues lock waivers until after the first week,
Starting point is 00:07:30 and I think that's part of it. Really? I really don't think that's part of it. There can't be that many, because that was a week ago, right? When did we find out? It doesn't matter. I'm telling you, Adam, there are leagues that have those type of rules. 25% of our leagues, you think? What's the explanation for it? I mean, there can't be that many eight-team leagues that people those type of rules? 25% of our leagues, you think? What's
Starting point is 00:07:46 the explanation for it? I mean, there can't be that many eight-team leagues that people are playing in that you just don't have. I don't know. Oh, I don't know. I mean, you know, the thing with our leagues is because, you know, of our site and what you have to do to play on our site in the commissioner leagues, you know, these are very astute players. Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:08:01 don't know, man. I couldn't believe it, but still fine. Whatever the reason is, get him. How about, let's say you're loaded. Like, your team, whatever. You don't need anyone, necessarily. Hawkinson's out there. Tyrell Williams is out there. Who's your priority?
Starting point is 00:08:18 Tyrell. Tyrell. Tyrell. And it's a close call because Hawkinson's got the, you know, the tight end designation makes him a position scarcity type of guy. But Tyrell just kind of proved that he can do what he did back in 2016, be that lead guy. Hawkinson might end up being the next Rob Gronkowski. I don't know if he's going over 100 in a tutty every week, though.
Starting point is 00:08:38 All right, let me get three more names up here because what we're going to do, if you're new to the show, we're going to go through each position at some point later on in the show. We're also going to recap Sunday night and Monday night football. Three games to recap. But we'll go into each position. We'll give you quarterbacks. Quarterbacks aren't going to be the hot waiver wire ads. But DK Metcalf, who's probably right behind the three wide receivers we've talked about,
Starting point is 00:09:01 John Brown, Jamison Crowder, and Marquise Brown. You've got DK Metcalf. You have Ronald Jones and Chris Thompson, I guess we should probably talk about as well. And then, look, they're owned in about 77% of leagues, but I don't personally think it's a great week for DST streamers. So the Patriots DST, if they're available, that's definitely a DST. And this is the guy who had the Eagles DST on six rosters this first week, so take that for what it's worth. But the Patriots DST should definitely be a priority,
Starting point is 00:09:32 but they are owned in more than 75% of leagues. But I guess those other names, Ronald Jones, Chris Thompson, DK Metcalf, do you feel like you'd be putting in claims or bids for all of them? Yes. I think, yeah, I think you can, and I think there's more names on top of that. I think it's a very deep waiver list this week. Yeah, it's almost overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And then there's like Adrian Peterson. Adrian Peterson had 17 or more carries in seven of his first 10 games last year. I don't, you know, what do you think about Adrian Peterson? I know he's not great, but if he's going to get a lot of work, if he's going to get goal line work, he's something, isn't he? Yeah, I'm just concerned about game flow.
Starting point is 00:10:13 You know, I mean, I think you're going to see a situation where they're chasing points and, you know, he's not going to be great in that regard. You know, you have to wonder how much of Geis' poor performance was the knee
Starting point is 00:10:24 or how much just that they're not going to be able to be very good running the ball. And their next two games are Dallas and Chicago. So that's not great for Adrian Peterson. It's probably better for Chris Thompson. Alright, today's sponsors. FanDuel. FanDuel.com slash FFT.
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Starting point is 00:12:17 For free assistance, call the Connex Ontario helpline at 1-866-531-2600. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Welcome back, everybody. All right, so, you know, Jamie, you write the waiver wire column, and the threshold you use is 65% owned. You're going to mostly focus on players who are owned in fewer than 65% of CBS sports leagues. But for right now, let's look at the guys who are owned in more than 65% of leagues.
Starting point is 00:12:46 We've already talked about some of them. Tyrell Williams, TJ Hawkinson, Patriots DST. But Justin Jackson is the one running back that you're kind of featuring here. He's 68% owned. Would you rather have Justin Jackson or Chris Thompson or Ronald Jones? Where did you rank Jackson? So what I'm going to do this year in the column for the first time is, because I know you like to reference these guys on our show,
Starting point is 00:13:13 is kind of keep it in the guys that are in 75 to 65 range for this group. And then I'm going to put where I would rank them in the priority list. And so he's behind Ronald Jones. So I would take G put where I would rank them in the priority list. And so he's behind Ronald Jones. So I would take Geo. I would take Thompson. I would take Ronald Jones. And I'd put Justin Jackson right there. Can I make the case that Ronald Jones should be the highest priority of all?
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yes. Yeah, like he's... So, you know, a great tight end is is quite a commodity an elite running back or not elite a must-start running back is is pretty special as well and he's the one guy i think that has the potential to be that for the long term you know i did my only concern with him is is san francisco's run defense good that yeah because payton barber had over four yards per carry. It was a home game for them.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I know it's the season opener, but that's still a long road trip. I don't want to just go crazy because he did this against that defense. Sure. At Carolina on Thursday coming up, then the Giants. And we'll see. Short week, as we know, tends to favor run games. But I think they're going to see that the Carolina defense is going to be able to contain them a little bit. So I don't want to go crazy about him.
Starting point is 00:14:28 But this was for a guy that was certainly maligned in his rookie season. It was great to see him. You know, he passed the eyeball test. If you watch the game, he certainly looks much better than Peyton Barber. And as somebody that this was the hope that Bruce Arians gets his hands on him and healthy, year better, year in the league, understanding things, you know, just taking that that step that you were hoping to see. I think he did that in one game, but can he sustain that?
Starting point is 00:14:56 And so I think if you're looking at it in comparison with him to the other two guys, Gio is obviously a short term solution. He's not going to be a long-term solution. So if you're looking at it from a broader scope, you want Ronald Jones over Giovanni Bernard. If you're looking at it from a broader scope, comparing him to Chris Thompson, because we know Thompson has a hard time staying healthy
Starting point is 00:15:12 and is more of just a pass catcher, format is obviously specific with these two guys, you would take Ronald Jones over Chris Thompson. So long-term, I'd rather have Ronald Jones. Short-term, though, I think you look at the other two guys as better options. Okay, Fair enough. Let's go to the wide receivers then that are owned in 65% to 75% of leagues. Dave, how would you prioritize Tyrell Williams to Sean Jackson,
Starting point is 00:15:36 who will be at Atlanta on Sunday night this week? Tyrell Williams, unfortunately, his next three opponents. This does need to be mentioned here. Even five opponents, I guess, if you look at Tyrell Williams. Granted, he just had a great game, 105 yards and a touchdown against the Broncos. But Bears, Packers, Jaguars, Chargers,
Starting point is 00:15:54 Titans. So that's Tyrell Williams' upcoming schedule. Deshaun Jackson, Cortland Sutton, and Michael Gallup are the others, Dave. How would you prioritize Tyrell, Deshaun, Cortland Sutton, and Gallup? Tyrell is number one with a bulletland Sutton, and Gallup? Tyrell is number one with a bullet. The matchups don't really matter to me,
Starting point is 00:16:11 especially if I'm desperate for a wide receiver starter. I know that he's going to be that guy for Oakland, and Derek Carr didn't look half bad. So he would be one. I think Deshaun would still be two, but it's a really close call over Gallup. And then Cortland Sutton, great game. He looked way better than he did at any point last year. He was like the Ronald Jones of the receivers this week.
Starting point is 00:16:31 But he's fourth for me on this list. Okay. By the way, I think I have screwed up here. You screwed up Tyra Williams' schedule. I did. I said Cortland Sutton's schedule for Tyra Williams. Yeah. I thought you did because I know that's what I opened up.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Tyra Williams' schedule is really good. Okay, so what is Tyra Williams' schedule? Oh, here we go. Kansas City. Well, you just started with this one. Kansas City's great. Yeah. Kansas City this week. Then he's got Minnesota in week three, and that's going to be... That'll be a tough one on him, but after that, it's not so bad. I don't know about that. I mean, Chicago and Green Bay are not
Starting point is 00:16:59 going to be easy. Yeah. Minnesota on the road at Indianapolis, Chicago and London at Green Bay at Houston, Detroit. It's not that easy of a schedule for Tyra Williams after this week, Kansas City, but look, you know, number one wide receiver on the team and
Starting point is 00:17:15 top 20 wide receiver just a couple years ago. Honestly, if he does well against Kansas City, which he should because probably chasing points so high. Absolutely. Okay. Tight ends. Austin Hooper, TJ Hawkinson, and Mark Andrews. Jamie, how
Starting point is 00:17:32 do you prioritize those three? Hawkinson would be number one. I would put the other two guys behind Waller ahead of Jimmy Graham. So there's not a lot of tight ends that I think you're looking at on the waiver wire and saying I have to have these guys. But if these guys are available
Starting point is 00:17:48 in terms of Hooper and Andrews, aside from Hawkinson, because again he should be the most added tight end, I would put Waller second. And then I think the other two guys three and four. And then DSTs, I think New England is 72% owned. So they might be out there at Miami
Starting point is 00:18:03 this week. That could be beautiful. We got some questions about just general waiver wire and fab philosophies and how you approach week one. And I think even if you're 0-1, you probably want to be focusing more long-term here, right? I mean, there are no buys in week two, so I don't know how many owners out there need someone to start. There definitely are. Like, the Tevin Coleman owner, obviously, he's got to prioritize things differently.
Starting point is 00:18:32 The Darius Geis owner, the Joe Mixon owner, whatever. But what should you tell people right now? What should their priority be? How much fab should they be spending? If you have Travis Kelsey, do you go out and get TJ Hawkinson with the thought of trading one of them? You know what I mean? What's your philosophy right now? Well, when it comes to fab, I don't like to spend a lot unless I'm desperate.
Starting point is 00:18:54 There's a guy out there I have to have. I'm going to spend for him. Otherwise, I'm not going to spend that much. So in the case of I've got Kelsey and Hawkins is out there I'm not going to unload the fab to get health to get Hawkinson on my team only to flip him I just don't think that makes much sense I'd rather save that fab doesn't mean I'm not going to put in a bid on Hawkinson it's just not going to be you know the the 40 or 50 percent if not more that it would take to get him on your team as for just regular old waivers, that's a little bit different. You could go, let's just say you lost this week and you've got Travis Kelsey and Hawkinson's out there. You could acquire Hawkinson with the idea of trading him because you're not
Starting point is 00:19:35 giving up something that can't be replenished. You're going to be on waivers every week. So I'm all for making moves like that because that's how you make your team better. You're either adding depth and giving yourself a flex option, or you're acquiring a guy that you can flip to the guy who streamed Vance McDonald in week one or Eric Ebron in week one, and they will pay for Hawkinson. Jamie, anything to add? General strategy right now on waivers? I mean, I think if you have a chance to improve your team, you do it. So if you find a situation where there's a player you think can help you long term, similar to what we were just talking about with Ronald Jones,
Starting point is 00:20:13 if you think Ronald Jones could be somebody that down the stretch of the season, not necessarily the end of the season, but the bye weeks and when you're going to have some injury situations, and you think that he could be a guy that... I always look at it this way. Like, where would I draft the guy? You know, so... Like, for example,
Starting point is 00:20:32 if you're in a two-quarterback league right now and every quarterback is gone, the only one that's available that's going to be a helpful situation for you is Gardner Minshew. Where would you draft Gardner Minshew? Where would you essentially draft Nick Foles right now? And so, like, Nick Foles in a two-quarterback league would probably be, what,
Starting point is 00:20:49 eight to ten round pick? Yeah. Nick Foles? Right, that range? Yeah, sure. Yeah. So what is that worth to you in terms of your fab budget, a round eight pick? That's the kind of way I approach it.
Starting point is 00:21:04 So if you think that's a guy that can help your fantasy team, knowing what the situation is, like Raheem Mostert, for example, is not somebody that's going to be the clear-cut starter for San Francisco unless something happens to Matt Breida. But what if it does? Matt Breida already got in the concussion protocol in week one, in the game, was able to get cleared and come back. But we know what his status is.
Starting point is 00:21:24 So if Tevin Coleman, as the report suggests, is out multiple weeks, can you get value out of Raheem Mostert for maybe two or three weeks or potentially more? I think those are the type of things you have to evaluate your roster on. So you probably look at the list. I'm sure we'll show it at some point. Some of the names I suggest that you get rid of, you know, guys that are owned in 85% of leagues or more.
Starting point is 00:21:43 But we just know that the situations are not very good. We knew they weren't going to be very good to begin with, but you still drafted them with the hope that maybe something would change or you get some good production out of it, and it still may happen. But I think there's a lot of dead weight on a lot of people's rosters. Dave mentioned one, and Dante Pettis. Jordan Howard's a guy that I think you can say, do I really need Jordan Howard?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Am I ever going to feel comfortable starting him? It's guys like that, and you just say, okay, I'll move on, and I'll take a chance on somebody that not necessarily to trade them, but that you can potentially use as a starter at some point. Sure. All right. So just a quick sneak peek of the waiver wire. Some of the quarterbacks we're going to talk about Josh Allen, Matthew Stafford, Andy Dalton.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Some of the running backs we're going to talk about other than Gio, Chris Thompson and Ronald Jones. Carlos Hyde looked good. 10 carries for 83 yards. Only one catch. Malcolm Brown scored two touchdowns, had 11 carries. Carlos Hyde looked good. 10 carries for 83 yards, only one catch. Malcolm Brown scored two touchdowns, had 11 carries. So he's in play. Raheem Mostert, Alexander Madison, he's going to have a role.
Starting point is 00:22:32 So is Ido Smith. We're going to talk about those guys and more. I'm not going to read all the names right now. Wide receivers. Yeah, look, it's John Brown. It's Crowder. It's Marquise Brown. It's DK Metcalf.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And then, you know, the other guys. Who's buying John Ross? Who's buying Terry McLaurin? Cole Beasley this week could be pretty good as we see how much the Giants struggle with slot receivers. So there's just some options there. It'd be better probably in a bye week situation. And then tight end is a short list. Darren Waller, Jimmy Graham, Vernon Davis.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I'll make a case for Greg Olson. He had nine targets. Oh, yeah. When I sent you the list, I didn't put Greg Olson on there, and he should be on there. All right. Then Greg Olson, 52% on nine targets, facing Tampa Bay on Thursday. Played a lot out of the slot.
Starting point is 00:23:18 So, you know, those are some of the names, and then we'll get you some DSTs and some kickers as well. The Texans DST is available, hopefully the Patriots. But let's see. Oh, I know. We've got to promote. Promote stuff. Thank you so much for your iTunes comments.
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Starting point is 00:23:54 Sean McVay said this about Todd Gurley and Malcolm Brown. He said, quote, about Malcolm Brown. He was up in that series, and based on the flow and how many plays Todd had played prior to that, it didn't really have anything to do with where we were at on the field as much. It was okay. We're just going to get Malcolm in, in this series. And that was something that was predetermined. And that was him talking about, uh, Brown getting goal line work. So a little fluky there, I guess new England, right? No, not buying it. Uh, I, I I'm sure the series thing is definitely legit,
Starting point is 00:24:27 but it's still a guy who's going to split work with Todd Gurley. It's going to happen. It's going to continue to happen. The Rams are doing what's best for them. And Gurley's not going to play as many snaps as we're used to seeing, not get as many touches as we're used to seeing. This shouldn't be surprising to anybody. I'd buy low if you can. How low? I don't know what his value is. I mean, that's the thing is that you're not going to be able to get him probably as cheap as you
Starting point is 00:24:51 think you can. But if there's a frustrated Todd Gurley owner that has some running back depth, I would try and see if you can get him. I'd trade Antonio Brown for him right now if that's the case. So I've got him 12th in the trade chart for this week so i don't think the time to buy low on girly is right now unless the guy in your league sees these stats and saw the numbers that girly puts up and he goes ah you know what i just don't want him anymore in which case put your arm around him and make him an offer he can't refuse but i i would wait until he has a real stinker before trying to grab him oh i i agree this isn't his low but if somebody's frustrated because they think he lost two
Starting point is 00:25:29 touchdowns you go and try and poach him yeah well the other thing you can do by the way is this is one of your maybe third fourth or fifth waiver moves is to grab malcolm brown we haven't talked about him but he's gonna he will carry value for people who have Gurley now. Kind of the same way that Tony Pollard did once upon a time with Ezekiel Elliott. I think people who have Gurley might be much more comfortable having Brown on their bench rather than Daryl Henderson. If Gurley stays healthy, this is going to be Malcolm Brown's best game. Not even close. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I don't know that he's going to have. I don't think he's going to have any more two touchdown games. Yeah. No. Right. New England right. And I don't know that he's going to have... I don't think he's going to have any more two touchdown games. Yeah. No. Right. New England right tackle... And I don't know if Burley's going to stay healthy. That's always in the back of your mind. It has to be. Alright, Patriots right tackle Marcus Cannon got hurt in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:26:18 So they don't need him at Miami, but it's something to keep an eye on. Greg Olson mispracticed with a back issue, but we expect him to play. Sterling Shepard may have a concussion, so the Bills' DST might not be so bad this week, but they're also fairly highly owned. TJ Watt left with a hip injury,
Starting point is 00:26:34 and Joe Hayden has a sprained AC joint. So that's definitely something that could benefit Russell Wilson and the Seahawks this week. Will Disley may not play, though. Aw, he's got a knee injury. Atlanta right guard Chris Lindstrom is going to miss at least eight weeks. So that's kind of a bummer, guys.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Jamie, your reaction to that Atlanta right guard out eight weeks? I mean, it's not good, you know, for an offensive line that was supposed to be improved. And look, it was a tough matchup for them against Minnesota, so I don't know if you want to fully judge this offensive unit based on what that game showed us,
Starting point is 00:27:08 but they did bring in a lot of guys. They drafted two, they signed two, so we'll see how this depth helps them, but not encouraging to have an injury out of the gate right away. Philadelphia defensive tackle Malik Jackson, he has a fairly significant foot injury. He could go on IR, and that's going to weaken their run defense for sure.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Ram safety Eric Weddle is in the concussion protocol. Colts wide receiver Devin Funches broke his collarbone. Three collarbone injuries in week one. Multiple Miami players are seeking trades, according to Pro Football Talk. I don't blame them. Odell Beckham wore a watch. I don't know how much he paid for it. Maybe he was giving it for free.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Maybe it was promotional. But that watch is going for like $350,000. And I'm not a jewelry guy, but I didn't see anything special with that watch. I don't know. $350,000, really, for a watch? If he was on the Giants, you'd be on eBay trying to get it. Yes, I would be taking out loads. The Jets need a new kicker. They're holding tryouts, so
Starting point is 00:28:09 if you don't have anything to do this week... You could have just thought that the Jets need a new... Well, they don't need to do... New kicker, new coach. Slot receiver. They don't need a new quarterback. They could use a new linebacker. They're going to beat the Browns.
Starting point is 00:28:24 If Gwynn and Williams is going to be okay. They might. They might beat a new linebacker. They're going to beat the Browns. Maybe if Quinton Williams is going to book A. They might. They're going to beat the Browns. Everybody. Their defense is already really battered. By the way, the views expressed by Adam Azer did not reflect the actual views of Adam Azer. He doesn't know how he feels about that game just yet. We're going to take a break
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Starting point is 00:29:06 you time and money click before you dig ensure your next project is safe visit ontarioonecall.ca it's free it's easy it's the law data sourced from the orcga 2023 dirt report new england 33 and pittsburgh 3 hey dave how worried are you about the Steelers' offense? It did not look good. Dante Moncrief was really, really terrible. And Juju was double-covered a lot, which is to be expected. And now he's banged up. They didn't use James Conner nearly as much as I thought they would.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I think they bounced back this week at home against Seattle. So I'm not terribly worried. Jamie, your thoughts on the Patriots running backs. Bad game for Sonny Michel and a lot of second half work for Rex Burkhead. Yeah, welcome to Bill Belichick, year 5 billion. I think this is going to be a bounce back game for Sonny Michel. I wouldn't worry about him yet. But Damien Harris is somebody you can get rid of right now.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I don't know if I'd get rid of him. It depends on your situation. Any of these guys on waivers, Damien Harris. Yes. Well, if you've got Sonny Michel, I would carry Harris. I'd drop him for Burkhead. For Burkhead, right. Because right now he'll be the guy.
Starting point is 00:30:28 There's no reason to carry Damien Harris. He'll be, as soon as he's active, that means that something's wrong with Sonny Michelle and the coaches don't trust him anymore. Or Burkhead's hurt. There's going to come a time later this year where Damien Harris will be a thing. It's up to you if you want to drop him now
Starting point is 00:30:42 and come back for him later or not. All right, Oakland 24 and Denver 16. And let's see, Joe Flacco and Derek Carr both scored 16 fantasy points. One of them looked a lot better in the process, and Derek Carr will get Kansas City, so I guess you could consider
Starting point is 00:30:57 him for the waiver wire. Josh Jacobs, his longest run was 13 yards. He only had one catch, but 23 carries, 85 yards, and two touchdowns. Would you rather have Josh Jacobs or Todd Gurley? There might not be a game all year where Todd Gurley has 23 carries or 24 touches. So I think that's a reasonable question. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:31:17 I still have Gurley ahead of Jacobs, but it's close, and it was close on draft day. It wasn't close in ADP, I guess, but in my mind, it was close on draft day. And now it's close again. This is one where fantasy production and actual production differ, because Todd Gurley was the better running back on the field for his team. Josh Jacobs was better for his fantasy production. Yeah, but I guess I could foresee a scenario where that continues if Jacobs is getting like six more touches per game oh sure sure but sure but again i you know you you give the two malcolm brown
Starting point is 00:31:51 touchdowns to todd girley which is probably going to happen this week if they have their way yeah to shut people up yes then you know it's a totally different conversation yeah get get right game you've got to love the usage for j. He was pretty much an every down back. I think Jalen Rashard played like 10 snaps in the game, maybe even less than that. And who, when they went to the goal line, Jacobs was up there twice.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah. So I think you should feel very, very confident about having Josh Jacobs rest of the season. And I don't know if you heard it on the, on the broadcast. Sorry, Jamie, but,
Starting point is 00:32:23 but it was mentioned by one of the broadcasters that dabble Sweeney, they asked him about all the Clemson players on Oakland, and then he started talking about Josh Jacobs and how Josh Jacobs was the best player at Alabama that Clemson had played against. And that really stood out. So pretty exciting there. Actually, Jamie, I want to get your thoughts on Phillip Lindsay versus Royce Freeman.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I was just going to say real quick, though, for usage, this is going to be a telling game because they're most likely chasing points, and what will Jacobs do in that scenario? Yeah, against Kansas City. Now, as far as Lindsey and Freeman go, they had about the same amount of carries. Freeman had a better game on the ground. He had a 26-yard run. Felt like Lindsey was the favored back, though, and he had four catches.
Starting point is 00:33:02 He had six targets. He was split out wide. Looked to me like they realized they've got a really good player, Lindsey, and they had four catches. He had six targets. He was split out wide. Look to me like they realize they've got a really good player, Lindsey. They want to get the ball in his hands. What was your takeaway, Jamie? I think they want to get both of them involved. This is going to be a problem. Which one will get into a rhythm?
Starting point is 00:33:18 As long as Theo Riddick's out, I think that benefits Lindsey because he is the better pass catcher, although they did use Freeman a little bit more than we saw last year when Lindsey was healthy. So this is a week to avoid them, obviously, playing the Bears. But I wouldn't drop Freeman yet if you were considering cutting him, and I wouldn't panic on Lindsey yet just coming out of this game.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I think there's still enough to like about both guys in their respective situations. But, you know, it's going to take an injury for one of them to be a superstar. I agree. The bad news is they both played almost evenly. Lindsey played four more snaps than Freeman. The good news is it was just the two of them. No Devante Booker. He only played one snap on offense.
Starting point is 00:34:01 So as long as it stays this way, I think that we can feel a little bit better about starting either one of them as flexes. Lindsay more so in PPR. Lindsay maybe even as a low end number two running back when the matchup is better than it'll be this week. All right. And then New Orleans 30 Houston 28. What a game. What a game. Did I get awesome? Did I get it right by the way? Of course. Do it counts? You knew it was right. There it is. Yeah, no, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I mean, because there were some duds. I mean, Will Fuller wasn't very good, 2 for 69. Jared Cook was a dud, 2 for 37. Breeze only 24 fantasy points. I thought it would be closer to 30. I'll take it. 1-0. 1-0.
Starting point is 00:34:47 But it adds a success. Can they stop with the stupid Taysom Hill stuff? It's so annoying. The good thing is they run the ball almost every time with Taysom Hill. I don't know if that's a good thing. That's good? No, I guess it's not. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 00:35:02 The Hall of Fame quarterback comes off the field so we can run gimmick plays. Whee! But I'd say when he's in, it's almost always a run. Yeah, Duke Johnson, Carlos Hyde. Do you think Carlos Hyde should be owned in more than 58% of leagues? Yes. Yeah. He looks really, really good.
Starting point is 00:35:19 He would be sustainable, though. Right. I was not super encouraged with Latavius Murray, though. I thought I was hoping for more work. Six carries. You know, I think we talked about this on CBS Sports HQ last night, that after the interception where he was targeted, they did not use him in the passing game at all.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And I wonder if they felt that maybe he did something wrong. Hmm. Interesting. All right. Because he had two catches early. Who's the wide receiver to take a shot on on the waiver wire from this game? Kenny Stills, Traquan Smith, or Ted Ginn?
Starting point is 00:35:52 Oh, Ted Ginn. Ginn had seven targets and he caught all of them. For months that he was just ranked too low, drafted too low. I mean, you look at his numbers when he was healthy last year. He was very good. Anytime they're at home, you're going to want to play Ted Ginn. He is 8% owned.
Starting point is 00:36:06 He had seven catches for 101 yards on seven targets. They're not home for another three games at the Rams, at the Seahawks, and then Dallas and Tampa Bay back-to-back at home. Ted Ginn, 8% owned. All right, before we end the video portion of the show, how much is the most amount of F fab dollars you would spend on any one player out of a $100 budget? How much would you spend on any one particular
Starting point is 00:36:30 player this week, and who would that player be? If I needed a tight end and TJ Hawkinson was there, I would go 50%. No! That's so much. I need the tight end. If we were drafting right now, where would he rank?
Starting point is 00:36:47 Be honest. He wouldn't be 12th or 11th. It's exciting, but it's one game. Oh, he'd be on the good side of the bridge. Yes, he would. He might even be inside the big six. He might be the big seven. Or kind of big eight.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I don't even know if I... Because Delaney Walker was pretty good, too. I wouldn't put 50% on Jared Cook if he were available. No, of big eight. I don't even know if I... Because Delaney Walker was pretty good too. I wouldn't put 50% on Jared Cook if he were available. No, of course not. No. All right. Well, he didn't go for 130 and a touch. Jamie, how much on Hawkinson?
Starting point is 00:37:16 I probably wouldn't go that high. I'd probably go 35 to 40. How much on the next best player? If you have Joe Mixon, you need Gio? It depends what your situation is. Again, that's the thing. You don't want to go crazy on Gio because it's a short-term situation.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I think you're looking at more of the long-term guys. Hawkinson is a long-term guy. Waller is a long-term guy. Tyrell Williams is a long-term guy. How much on Waller? We've got to end the video portion. We've got more audio.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Waller would be probably in the 20% range. Yep. I was going to say 20% on him, but I would go like 35-ish on Tyrell. Marquise Brown? 15 tops. Oh, I was going to say like
Starting point is 00:37:57 8 or 9%. Ronald Jones? 15? 10. Okay. All right. Video portion is done. We're going to take one more break here. When we come back, drops and ads. 15 10 okay alright video portion is done we're gonna take one more break here
Starting point is 00:38:07 when we come back drops and ads for the rest of the show we'll be right back ads and drops here we go the drop-o-meter drop-o-meter
Starting point is 00:38:16 Adam oh sorry about that uh 0 to 10 how droppable are these guys Jameis Winston 3
Starting point is 00:38:24 0 oh okay preaching patience good I like it I think people are freaking out a little bit here How droppable are these guys? Jameis Winston. Three. Zero. Oh, okay. Preaching patience. Good. I like it. I think people are freaking out a little bit here. Yeah, in a 10-team league, I think you can move on.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Dante Pettis. 25. So they got to get him involved. Like, their wide receivers suck. They have to get him involved. I think the time will come, maybe by mid midseason where Debo Samuel is their best guy. He played a lot of snaps. Maybe he just sucks.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Who, Dante Pettis? No. Dante Pettis does not suck. I hope you're right, but maybe they just don't like him. That could be. All signs point to yes. By the way, these drop-o-meter suggestions are from you on Twitter. I kind of took the most popular ones and the ones that made me laugh,
Starting point is 00:39:08 like this one. Bill O'Brien and Romeo Cornell. No. No, but you got to play better defense on that second-to-last play. I would drop Bill O'Brien as the general manager. Curtis Samuel for John Brown or Hollywood Brown? John Brown, yes. Hollywood Brown, no.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah, I agree. Muhammad Sanu? Yes. Zero to ten? Ten. Twelve. Justice Hill? Ten. Yep. Would you drop Jared Cook for Hawkinson or Waller? Yes, if that's the only move I can make.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Yeah, if your bench is stacked otherwise. The bridge has fallen down. DeeDee Westbrook. Zero. I don't know, man. With Gardner Minshew there, that could be bad news. Yeah, zero. I'm going to say five.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I'm nervous. Because of Minshew. Deion Lewis. Two and a half. Deion Lewis, eight. Kenyon Drake. Ten. No, you can't drop Drake.
Starting point is 00:40:23 What are you doing with Kenyon Drake? You're getting bad at him every week. You're going to put him on your bench, and you're going to say, why is he on my bench? Maybe. Zero to 10, seriously, on Drake. Seven. Four.
Starting point is 00:40:39 All right, guys. Let's do quarterbacks here. Who to pick up in week one? So, Josh Allen, Matthew Stafford, Andy Dalton, Derek Carr, Marcus Mariota, Jacoby Brissett, and Gardner Minshew are the six. They obviously are not all on the same
Starting point is 00:40:57 plane here. Jamie, I think you said Josh Allen's the only guy that you'd want to start this week? Yes, I don't have him ranked as a starter, but he's close. Okay, Josh Allen, 58% owned. He's at the Giants. We know about their defense. Do you think Matthew Stafford, at 47% owned, he had 33 fantasy points at Arizona.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I mean, do you think he's just, in general, a guy that we could be starting? Not necessarily this week against the Chargers, but, you know, going forward. I would say streaming, not starting. Yeah, I think I've gone back and forth on him and Dalton as a short-term solution if you're stuck, because I think Dalton, especially if no mix is there, is going to throw 50 times like we saw again, and he has the better matchup this week.
Starting point is 00:41:40 You know, San Francisco back-to-back road games, they're not going home. So I could see Dalton having a decent game as well. But I think you saw 51 pass attempts, he gets you 24 fantasy points. That's kind of, I think, the game that he's going to have to have. If John Ross keeps this up, though, he's going to be very good. Yeah, sure. Derek Carr against Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Not terrible. He's a great daily play. He's going to be a great two-quarterback play. Again, I don't know how many people are going to need to start him in week number two, but I do think you're going to see chasing points. As we saw from Minshew, you can get to that 20-point threshold in that scenario. Would you start Derek Carr over Mitchell Trubisky at Denver? Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Would you start him over Garoppolo? Yes. The interesting one is Jameis. Yeah, Thursday at Carolina. Right. Tough spot for him. So, what would you do? Carr or Jameis?
Starting point is 00:42:41 I have Jameis right there. Marcus Mariota, Jacoby Brissett. They are widely available. Do we see long-term appeal in either of these guys? They're facing each other this week. Mariota and Brissett. Well, if every team playing Tennessee gives the game away like the Browns did, then Mariota is going to have a great year.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I don't think that's going to happen. I think we've seen Mariota's best game. We haven't seen Brissette's best game, but neither one of these guys are going to be interesting. I would rather have Derek Carr and Jameis Winston ahead of both of them. I agree with that, but I do think that if you get 16 games out of Mariota, it's going to be fun to see him have games like this because it wasn't a pretty game.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I mean, he got a 75-yard touchdown on a screen pass to Derek Henry. How many times can you expect that to happen? But A.J. Brown looks to be a good deep ball threat, and Delaney Walker is obviously going to be somebody that's going to help him all over the field, especially in the red zone. So I think Mariota in two quarterback leagues, you should feel happy that you drafted him if this is the case. And again, if he stays healthy, we've seen him that he could be a decent fantasy option. He gets hot at times, and this could be the start of a hot streak. It's a good matchup against Col option. He gets hot at times, and this could be the start of a hot streak. It's a good matchup against the Colts.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And Gardner Minshew, starting quarterback, so there's that. And he played well. He scored 21 fantasy points against the Chiefs. Three incompletions. Drop candidates, Kirk Cousins and Jimmy Garoppolo, who I just can't help but think, man, if those touchdown passes to Kittle counted, we'd be talking differently about him, but they didn't.
Starting point is 00:44:06 And then Mitchell Trubisky. Are they must drops or are they only if you need to drop them? Trubisky is. I think all three I'd rather have Josh Allen over. Same. Stafford too. Okay. Running backs. All right, so look, we talked about 10% to 15% of your fab on Ronald Jones.
Starting point is 00:44:29 You know, maybe Chris Thompson is in that range, Giovanni Bernard. But we're not necessarily breaking the bank for any of these guys. But priority number one is Gio. Well, if you're the Mixon owner, it's Gio. Hopefully, we'll have some more information later tonight about Mixon's injury, but there is a possibility that Gio is a one-week guy or a zero-week guy. But remember, two games without Joe Mixon last
Starting point is 00:44:54 year, he was great in both of them. 17 touches at Carolina, 19 touches at Atlanta, 19 or more fantasy points in PPR, I think, in both games. Yes. So very good and scored three touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns in those two games.
Starting point is 00:45:10 He gets San Francisco this week, then he's at Buffalo, then at Pittsburgh. All right, so there's Geo, which is kind of a tough call. Chris Thompson, Ronald Jones, we've already had that discussion. Well, Jamie, take us through some of this list here, the first half of it, and just your thoughts on the guys that you anticipate are going to be added tonight.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I mean, I think you're going to see clearly Crowder and Brown, not in that order, Brown, then Crowder, added. Marquise Brown for sure, just because of where he's coming from at 29%. And like Dave alluded to, he didn't have to do very much because he played less than 20 snaps and only had five targets. So it'd be fun to see what happens with him if the pass attempts are a little bit different and the playing time is a little bit different. But there's a lot to like there.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Metcalf, Adam, you've been talking about him for a while now, and it was good to see him come out and play at the level that he did and have more targets than Tyler Lockett. Well, wait, but let's talk about running backs, though. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know what list you wanted. No, the running back list here. Gio, Chris Thompson, Ronald Jones. Sorry, I thought you said take us to the receiver list. No, the running back list here. Geo, Chris Thompson, Ronald Jones.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Sorry, I thought you said take us to the receiver list. No, I'm sorry about that. I would go with, like I said before, I think if you're looking at it from a more long-term approach, Ronald Jones is your best bet. Short-term, though, I think you look at just the two guys at the top of the list in terms of Geo and Chris Thompson. Thompson could be great long-term, but he just has a hard time staying healthy.'s the problem with him so as long as darius geis is out he's going to have an increase in in touches and workload and you know you know he's going to be in the passing
Starting point is 00:46:33 game so i i think those three guys are are the easy top three and then hide is a is a solid fourth who would you drop right now for for first of all for chris thompson i have little interest if no interest maybe in non-ppr is that fair yep yeah he's like three cone same thing you said about him half ppr sure um full ppr definitely so who would you drop right now for chris thompson and for ronald jones well you could start with kalen bellage who just has no business being on a fantasy roster if the rest of your team is good and you've got Drake, I would drop Drake for Ronald Jones. I would drop Drake for Chris Thompson in PPR. Obviously, for Geo, I would do that. Darwin Thompson, I just think it's going to be a while before he's a factor.
Starting point is 00:47:17 If you've got Daryl Henderson and you don't have Todd Gurley, I think you could drop him. And that's really about it. There's not a whole lot else. Just that running back specifically. Peyton Barber, I think, right? I wouldn't get rid of him yet. We might be a week or two away from that, but I wouldn't do it yet. The guys that I looked at that were owned in
Starting point is 00:47:36 70% of leagues or more that I would drop for those guys would be Jordan Howard, Daryl Henderson, Peyton Barber, Kareem Hunt's an easy one, and then Darwin Thompson. All of them are 72% to 88%. Well, would you drop them for Carlos Hyde? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Malcolm Brown, Raheem Mostert. Yeah, Mostert, I mean, look, if we like Brita, we should like Mostert. Mostert had three games with more than five carries last year, and he was really good in all of them. Seven carries for 86 yards in a touchdown against Oakland. Seven carries for 59 yards against the Rams, plus four catches. Twelve carries for 87 yards at
Starting point is 00:48:11 Tampa Bay. He's got what I think is an easy matchup at Cincinnati, even though they played very well last week at Seattle, but Mostert is definitely going to get work. He is. He's one of many players, not just running backs, but players that are on this like third and fourth tier of interesting waiver
Starting point is 00:48:33 ads. And I think he makes a lot of sense. If you lost Tevin Coleman, because Tevin could be gone a month, maybe longer, and he's going to be that second guy. And we know that Matt Burita has a history of getting nicked up. Hopefully he can play through injuries like he did last year. We'll see. So Mostert also, he's definitely not a priority guy, but he's someone who carries some semblance of value,
Starting point is 00:48:56 and he's available in every league. Nobody took him. Nobody should have. And he's third string. Yeah, absolutely. And then, Jamie, you've got this group of, well, I guess I'll include Mostert, this group of running backs who will get work on a weekly basis, at least for Mostert while Coleman's out.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Mostert, Madison, Ido Smith, Mike Davis, Darren Sproles. So is there anyone that really jumps out from that group? Mostert, and I really should include Malcolm Brown. All these guys are widely available except Madison. Malcolm Brown, Mostert, Madison, Ido Smith, Mike Davis, Darren Sproles. A lot of names there, but they get work. And what do you think about them? I think that they're certainly lower on the list than these other guys. Malcolm Brown, I think as we saw, despite the fact that I said this is his best game, if Todd Gurley stays healthy, there's the scenario of what if Todd Gurley is not healthy and you're talking about one of the better lottery tickets that you'll find. So I would put him slightly ahead of most, or just from the standpoint of most,
Starting point is 00:50:06 or it's going to need still another injury to happen for him to be a starting fantasy running back. And then on top of that, you have, what is Jeff Wilson's role going to be? Because we see this from time to time that they keep a guy on a roster because he's better on special teams. And they may value most of it more as a special teams guy than they do Jeff Wilson in that role. So that's why they put Wilson on the practice squad. Maybe they also thought that somebody would take Mostert. There's a lot of things that go into it. I'm not exactly sure which guy they're going to value more,
Starting point is 00:50:31 but it could be a situation where we see Jeff Wilson after a week. Even though Mostert looked really good against Tampa Bay, I think we could see Jeff Wilson cutting into Mostert's role. So I would put Brown slightly ahead of him. But with Madison and Ido Smith, they still need an injury to be very fantasy relevant. But in the situations that they're in, Ido Smith playing behind Devontae Freeman and his injury track record, and then Madison same thing behind Dalvin Cook.
Starting point is 00:50:53 But Madison could be a star given how Minnesota looks like they're going to be able to run the ball. I feel like we can make that case for Madison and Ido Smith every week until we absolutely need them because of an injury. So it's up to you as the Cook owner, as the Freeman owner, how risk averse you are. If you're nervous about missing out on having a running back to replace Cook or Freeman when they get hurt, if that makes you nervous, go get Madison, go get Smith. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Darren Sproles, Rex Burkhead, they're at the bottom of this list. We go to the wide receivers now. Wide receivers and, you know, obviously Tyra Williams, Michael Gallup, Deshaun Jackson, Cortland Sutton. They're above the 65% threshold, but check to see if they're available because Tyra Williams would be the number one priority. Michael Gallup would be behind Jamison Crowder and Marquise Brown.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And then, you know, Cortland Sutton's in that mix as well but he'd be behind DK Metcalf so John Brown and Jamison Crowder and Marquise Brown and DK Metcalf I think we've talked about them enough who else who do you like out of John Ross Terry McLaurin Mecole Hardman
Starting point is 00:52:01 Danny Amendola Cole Beasley AJ Brown etc I'll get into more guys later Mecole Hardman, Danny Amendola, Cole Beasley, A.J. Brown, etc. I'll get into more guys later. So the name that's currently at the top of that list for me is John Ross, but it's with some serious trepidation because this was crazy fluky how he got it done. And yet at the same time, there were ways that the Bengals used him that reminded me of how the Rams used Robert Woods. And I thought about how, you know, Zach Taylor used to coach with L.A.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And they're they're they're using Ross on tunnel screens and out routes. And look, he scores on a on a flea flicker and he scores on a ball that probably should have been intercepted. Other than those two plays, though, he didn't look half bad. I wouldn't rush to get him. And when A.J. Green comes back, his value is going to tank. But there's a glimmer of now, for the next two weeks, of some speculation on him. You know what? I'm taking it back. I'm taking it all back. I'm just thinking about it as I'm saying it. When's A.J. Green expected back? Week four, week five, maybe somewhere in there? We'll feel comfortable starting AJ Green.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Is that right? Yeah. Okay, so John Brown will be practically useless by then. So I'm going to move him down. John Ross. What? John Ross. I thought you said John Brown.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah, John Ross. You know why I said John Brown? Because I was about to say AJ Brown. I was more impressed with AJ Brown on his three catches than John Ross on his however many catches he A.J. Brown. I was more impressed with A.J. Brown on his three catches than John Ross on his however many catches he had. He had seven. Yeah, A.J. Brown only had four targets, but it's his first game, so maybe he'll run more routes.
Starting point is 00:53:35 They have to use him more because he is such a great yards after the catch type of receiver. He's a great route runner. He's physical. He's going to get caught from behind a decent amount after the catch type of receiver. He's a great route runner. He's physical. He's going to get caught from behind a decent amount of the time, but he gives that offense a pretty good dimension that just, for whatever reason, Corey Davis can't connect with Marcus Mariota. Maybe it's because they target him a little bit longer.
Starting point is 00:53:58 But A.J. Brown, you know, that short catch that he turned into a 51-yard play, they need more of that. And I wouldn't be surprised if his targets went up. Just like I said with Ross, and now I'm taking A.J. Brown ahead of John Ross, I don't think he's got to be a priority, but I think you should keep an eye on him. I think he's got a chance to be a pretty decent third receiver by week five. Okay. I think there are a lot of guys that you don't have to necessarily get tonight that they're going to pass through waivers and you can just get them as free agents.
Starting point is 00:54:31 This is a really big list of players here. Like Mikko Hardman played 78% of the snaps and he didn't do anything at Jacksonville, but that doesn't mean he won't do anything. You know, he's an interesting guy to speculate on. I just, I want to ask another question, Jimmy, about DK Metcalf. I'm sorry, but he had six targets and Tyler Lockett had one, and he had four catches for 89 yards. Do you think it's possible DK Metcalf is just going to be the most targeted player on Seattle? No, I think it was a little circumstantial. I don't think this is going to be a Tyler Lockett's getting one target per
Starting point is 00:55:00 game type of situation at all. So I wouldn't panic on him and I wouldn't overvalue DK Metcalf, but I would try and get him. Was this the shiny new toy theory that Metcalf was the Seahawks new addition to the offense and they just wanted to get him out there and get, see what he could do. I don't know. They know what they can get with Lockett. But we know what Tyler Lockett is. I mean, Tyler Lockett is not a,
Starting point is 00:55:23 he's a very, it's a great player. He's not a complete receiver. He's not the kind of guy that you're going to have run the same routes that DK Metcalf is going to run. He doesn't have the size of DK Metcalf. Are you kidding? He runs way more routes than DK Metcalf. I don't know about... I don't know that that's...
Starting point is 00:55:35 Like, Tyler Lockett is a deep ball guy. You know? He's more than that. But I think DK Metcalf is more deep ball guy than Tyler Lockett. See, I think he's dispelling that myth. I think he did it in the preseason. I think he did it yesterday. I think DK Metcalf is more deep ball guy than Tyler Locke. See, I think he's dispelling that myth. I think he did it in the preseason. I think he did it yesterday. And I think Metcalf is more of a prototypical number one wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Like, if you're just looking at them, you know, it's obvious. I was like, I like Metcalf. Obviously, you know that. Yes. But he's proven it. He had a good game. He hasn't done anything to disprove that. Because I saw it in the preseason and I saw it in week one.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Where they throw to him a lot and they seem to really like him. But yeah, I mean, Metcalf's obviously... Lockett's not going to get one target. But I just wonder if they view Metcalf as that... Sorry, if they view Lockett as that deep ball guy, that big play guy like a Deshaun Jackson, and they view Metcalf differently, I guess we will find out. Other guys you could think to add.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Trey Quinn, DJ Chark, Ted Ginn, 8% owned. Devante Parker, Chris Conley for the Jags. Preston Williams for the Dolphins. I don't see myself putting claims on any of them. But maybe in a 14-team league. Like definitely A.J. Brown in a 14-team league. Yes. Sure A.J. Brown in a 14-team league. Yes. Sure. And Cole Beasley really has a chance this week.
Starting point is 00:56:50 And then Danny Amendola. Quick thought on Amendola, Jamie. He had seven catches, 104 yards, and a touchdown on 13 targets for the Lions. I mean, he's... I think as long as he stays healthy, when he has a quarterback and a system that will lean on him, he's going to be productive. You know, it's just a matter of can you you're going to get a four for forty five game coming up.
Starting point is 00:57:10 It may happen this week. That's the thing you just got to understand with him. Or I'm sorry, a six for forty five game coming up. Do you think that he's the new version of Golden Tate where Stafford's is going to lean on him as a short area target and just wind him up and let him go. He's got that safe floor of 11-12 PPR points. No, he's not as good as Golden Tate. Yeah, that's the thing. Golden Tate's such a great player. Makes guys miss all the time.
Starting point is 00:57:35 But we talk about Jamison Crowder and the track record of slot receivers at Adam Gase's offense. We know four straight 90-catch seasons for Golden Tate. That's the track record of slot receivers there. Okay, let's go to tight end. This one we've more or less exhausted, but Darren Waller. Hawkinson's one. Darren Waller is one in the under 65% own.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Jimmy Graham, Vernon Davis, after that, where would you slot Greg Olson? Is he ahead of Jimmy Graham or behind him? Behind. Okay. So. I might go ahead. I just worry about the injuries with him.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I worry about the injuries with both of them. He's already on the injury report. I know it's probably just, you know, to let him sit out practice on a short week, but he's got a back injury. And we haven't seen him, you know, play 16 games for two straight years. All right. But what about this week? Graham has Minnesota and Olsen has Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Yeah, you'd rather start Olsen. And then Vernon Davis. For that reason alone, you pick him up first. Vernon Davis, 4% owned. He had a touchdown on six targets. I wrote 67 targets, so it was either six or seven. That might be how many he's had in the last three years. Yeah, maybe. He gets Dallas this week
Starting point is 00:58:47 and he's 4% on, but Jordan Reed might be back, so keep that in mind. And then, are you dropping Eric Ebron? I know you're dropping Ebron for Waller and Hawkinson. Are you dropping him for Graham or Olsen? Eric Ebron. Yes. I just wonder
Starting point is 00:59:03 what his role will be with Dein funch is out because that was one of the reasons against eric ebron was here here's a wide receiver that's a big body that can work in the red zone and now he's gone and ebron had a touchdown called back so he dropped it yeah he it was really really close yeah i'm not sure he dropped it. Yeah, neither am I. But bottom line is that he could see his role increase. So you got to tell me
Starting point is 00:59:32 you're dropping him for Greg Olson? No, I'm not going to do it. Okay. And Kyle Rudolph is droppable as well. One target. 10% of the targets, but only one. DSTs, the Texans get the Jags, the Titans get the Colts,
Starting point is 00:59:47 the Panthers get the Bucs. Yeah, I'm not super jazzed, Jamie, about these DSTs. No, it's not a great group. So hopefully the Patriots or the Bills are available, and then kickers. Cairo Santos is unowned. Mason Crosby is 62% owned. He gets Minnesota. Matt Bryant, 62% owned. He gets Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Matt Bryant, 14% owned. That's the one. Yeah, Matt Bryant. He could be your starter the rest of the year. He's got 12 more games indoors. And Atlanta just got done with their toughest matchup of the year. Cool. And I don't think he scored a point, right?
Starting point is 01:00:21 Nope. They went for two twice. He was a donut. Yeah, that'll change. All right, guys. Thank you. Long show today. I hope it was helpful for everyone.
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