Fantasy Football Today - 09/11: Waiver Wire (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 11, 2018

While there doesn't appear to be any player you should break the bank on, we do have a lot of interest in Phillip Lindsay, George Kittle, Quincy Enunwa, Kenny Golladay, Eric Ebron and many more. We give you our top priorities (2:15) and talk FAAB (9:05) at the top of show before taking a closer look later ... IdiotMoron Move of the Week (14:30) and a recap of CHI-GB (22:22), LAR-OAK (26:22) and NYJ-DET (28:28) ... Many more Waiver Wire names at QB (34:41) including Tyrod Taylor and Case Keenum, RB (42:15) including Austin Ekeler and Aaron Jones, WR (46:04) including too many names to list here, TE (53:06) including Jonnu Smith and Ben Watson, K and DST (58:00) ... Your emails at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Let's hit the waiver wire. Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome to the show, everybody, here on Tuesday Morning.

Talking fantasy football, getting you ready for your waiver wire claims tonight. Your fab bids tonight. First, fill in the blank, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Monday night football doubleheaders are blank. Awesome. The absolute bane of my existence. That's the absolute bane of your existence? Yes. Have you been to a dentist?

Not for a while. Oh, that's bad, Heath. We got to talk about that. I loved it. Jamie loved it. Heath, what the hell? What's wrong with more football? I loved it in the moment.

I didn't enjoy. Like, I'm not Jamie. I don't function on four hours of sleep or three hours of sleep. Two hours last night. Yeah. Are you serious? No, I don't. No, Jamie, take a nap.

Come on. I'm worried about you. I was watching the game, and then I thought, you know, I'll wait until the second game to start tweaking some rankings and writing the waiver wire column. Then I waited until the game was over, and I started doing it. And so it was a long night. You don't even drink coffee. No. Yeah. So he's a weirdo. You don't even drink coffee. No.

He's a weirdo. I'm a vampire though. Vampires at least sleep during the day. We've got to talk about last night's game. We've got to talk about Sunday's game. Even though I watched Sunday's game on Monday morning, I already knew the score. I was still so captivated.

Dave, last year for most of the season when we would podcast Sunday night, I was in a different room. I couldn't watch the game. So we're watching the game, and in real time, Aaron Rodgers gets hurt. Oh, yeah. And Adam's not. I almost came barging in.

Adam's not watching it, and he's like, oh, you're joking. You're kidding. No. Yeah, no. Thankfully, by the time our show ended, he was healthy. He was. It was a great game to watch, even though I knew the outcome. So we'll talk about those games.

But let's start with our top three waiver wire priorities, regardless of position. Fellas, your top three priorities. Hit me. I don't think there's a silver bullet, number one. I think it really comes down to what you need. And a lot of people still need tight ends. And George Kittle is out there, 69% owned. He's still out there in a little bit of leagues.

Ebron, 52%. I would go after those two if I don't need anything. But there are a lot of interesting receivers and a lot of interesting running backs. I think a lot of people will make a run at Phillip Lindsay, who's out there in 98% of leagues. So I'm going to say Kittle, Ebron, Lindsay. Not necessarily in that order and definitely dependent on what you need.

Dave forgot my number one. He forgot the number one. Oh, the number one. TJ Yeldon. If Leonard Fournette is out, TJ Yeldon. Yeah, but that's a big if. They're optimistic that he'll play. And if he does, then...

We still haven't mentioned the number one. Oh, Quincy? Quincy, a new one. The best Jets receiver? The best J jets receiver until sam darnold can throw the ball more than 10 yards he's not even my number one receiver yeah for me it's uh it's yeldon one lindsey two and then with three and i don't think it's close well who's your number one receiver dave chris godwin 31 owned which jamie told me this morning like he wasn't

even on my list because i just assumed that people were smart and they were drafting him late. And it looks like only a third of the CBS Sports fantasy football loving audience is smart. But there are a lot, a lot of options. I'm trying to add Buck Allen anywhere I didn't already have him on my bench, which is almost nowhere. Guys, guys. Eckler. Guys, guys. Eckler. You're missing arguably the number one.

What about Jared Cook? Tyler Lockett. And Jared Cook is very interesting as well. What about Marshall? I don't know if Tyler Lockett's not even the best Seahawks receiver to get. I saw that you had Marshall ranked ahead of him. The snap counts are pretty interesting there. Lockett played 98% of the snaps. Marshall played 65%.

Now, Marshall did have, I think, two more targets. But I don't know. And should have had one more touchdown. Marshall's like a fantasy corpse. I mean, we were totally counting him out. I'm not sure that... Here's the thing, and it's funny because I'm actually in the middle of writing this right now. Marshall is the safer play.

Lockett is the higher ceiling play. So depending on what you're looking for and what you want, that's, I think, how you have to approach the Seahawks receivers. But we don't know how long Baldwin's going to be out for. We know he's going to be out, though. These five receivers I like better than either of those guys. I have them fifth, one, two, three, four, fifth. The two of them, back-to-back, fifth Fifth and sixth

Alright, so there are a lot of wide receivers And unfortunately a lot of them are going to Be kind of one-week wonder So we'll try to sort through it I mean, Quincy Anuma got ten targets Robbie Anderson got one, and he caught it for a long touchdown They faced the Dolphins this week Who I still don't think are going to have a good defense

I don't care what we Right? Like, we still don't think the Dolphins are a tough matchup I certainly don don't think are going to have a good defense. I don't care what we say, right? We still don't think the Dolphins are a tough matchup. I certainly don't think they're going to have a good defense on the road. They might have a good defense down here. If they played Blaine Gabbard every week, they'd have a good defense. Howard will be tough for Robbie Anderson. Yeah, Chris Godwin, 31% on Deshaun Jackson, dealing with a concussion, so that certainly helps Godwin.

George Kittle, not in Jamie's waiver wireless because the cutoff is 65% owned, right? Hypothetically, would you rather have Kittle or Jared Cook, who is your number one tight end? It's Kittle. Jared Cook, I'm going to have him ranked in the top six this week. It's a good matchup against the Broncos.

It is. We know what to... Don't say nobody ever warned you. You said this when Gruden was hired about Greg Olson, which is. We know what to do. Don't say nobody ever warned you. You said this when Gruden was hired about Greg Olson, which is 100% accurate. They like the tight end, and you saw that they were featuring him. It wasn't just like he had a couple big plays. Right. He had 12 targets.

I mean, it was go, Jared, go, and he was really their only bright spot. That was his fifth game in the last five years with 100 yards receiving. In the games following, he has totaled one catch for 10 yards, one catch for 7 yards, two catches for 36 yards, four catches for 57 yards.

Oh, what a stat. What a great stat. I love it. That's Jared Cook we're talking about. And you know, it is not uncommon, guys, to see a team like the Rams that have great cornerbacks be bad against tight ends. You know, it's kind of like a Broncos thing that we used to see when they had Tlaib and Harris. Sometimes they were vulnerable against tight ends, and maybe that was the case last night. I mean, he really just didn't go—Derek Carr did not really go to Amari Cooper or Jordy Nelson that much.

Seven targets combined to those two guys. Yeah, so that is something to consider. And they have Ricky Seals-Jones this week, the Cardinals facing the Rams. So maybe that's a flower you could take if you need a tight end. And you can't get Ebron or Kittle. I took a look at snap. I'm sure we all took a look at snap counts. But we haven't really done a segment on snap counts.

Going to try to do that later today. But what I thought was interesting, Jack Doyle played 94% of the snaps, and Eric Ebron played 45%. He played 40 fewer snaps than Doyle. That doesn't mean you shouldn't pick him up. Even if Ebron's a top five tight end this year and Doyle's number 14, Doyle's still going to play more snaps than Ebron. He blocks more.

He also got more targets, so it wasn't just a snap count. He was featured more in the game. If you take away the touchdown, he's the better tight end, even with the fumble. So, yeah, we'll see if we can learn anything from snap counts in week one. Alright, so the names are Kittle, Ebron, Phillip Lindsey, Quincy Inunua, Chris Godwin. Who am I missing? Yeldon.

TJ Yeldon, right. But Yeldon's the tricky one, because do you want to burn a lot of fab on Yeldon if you're not the Fournette owner? Do you want to use your number one waiver wire priority on him? Because he might be useless this week against you're not the Fournette owner. Do you want to use your number one waiver wire priority on him? Because he might be useless this week against the Patriots if Fournette plays. You still should add him because of Fournette's track record, and he's still going to be

involved in the passing game quite a bit. And if Fournette doesn't play, I think he's a top 15 running back this week. 100%. But would you rather add Phillip Lindsay or TJ Yeldon? I think it depends on your team. Go on. I mean, if you're the bell owner that needs help long term, or depending on how long Bell's going to be out,

you're probably looking at Lindsey because there's a little bit more staying power with him. But if you need something to help you win this week and Fournette is out, you're going to play Yeldon over Lindsey. My read on the waiver wire is that aside from those two guys, there aren't great running back options. Agree or disagree? Fuck Allen. Yeah, if Alex Collins is punished again for fumbling again

and Kenneth Dixon's out again, a lot of agains, it's going to be Allen. Okay, that's a good point. And I think even if Collins is not, Allen's going to be the pass catching back. He was that. That was his role in the game. But he's not great. He's not a good point. And I think even if Collins is not, Allen's going to be the pass catching back. He was that. That was his role in the game. But he's not great. He's not a great player. He was a fullback on the play.

He's not a goal line player. That's their signature play. Collins had a short yardage touchdown. I'm going to make a compilation of all the Buck Allen fullback dives Ravens have run in the last year and a half. Oh, wow. That's going to go viral. Can't wait for that. All right, so how much fab would you be willing to spend on whoever you want the most this week?

I'm not dying for anybody. That's the weird thing about this week. Usually after week one, there's one or two guys that you're just absolutely dying for. If Kittle was there and I just lost Walker Olsen, I could see going up to 18%. Sure. And I'd use maybe half that to try and get Ebron. If Fournette is out, Yeldon's worth at least 20%.

I think Canoon was worth close to 15% in PPR. Easily. And I would say the same thing about Eckler if he's available. But there's nobody out there that's like 50%. No. Don't break the bank for anybody. I saw that. There are a few leagues where James Conner didn't get picked up before week one.

I got some tweets saying, how much would you spend in fab on James Conner? For waivers that don't run until after week one. You're going to have to spend it all. 75, I bet. Why, though? I don't think I'd get him. Yeah, but wouldn't that be a mistake? Because Bell's coming back eventually, right?

Well, I don't know. Bell was coming back Labor Day. I understand. Bell was coming back eventually, right? Well, I don't know. We've been – like Bell was coming back Labor Day. I understand. Bell was coming back the Saturday before the season. And I don't know. I'll buy into Shepter's report that he's here by the end of the month. And here by Florida, you know, vacation. Who – is anyone worth the number one waiver wire priority if you are so

inclined to hang on to that? Depends on if you need that tight end. Then you have to do it. And if you don't need that, then no. Depends if you can get through waivers without having to pick somebody up. Because there are a lot of guys that are going to be out there. They may not be great. Like Cook and Ebron, based on the percentages, are going to go.

You can't not see them getting above 75%. It's the Disley, John New Smith, Ian Thomas, Seals Jones, Ben Watson, Safarian Jenkins, those type of guys. You could probably let waivers cycle through, and then if you can make free ad drops, that's probably the smart thing if you don't want to burn that number one spot.

And make sure you know what's going to cause your waiver order to reset. Like number one doesn't mean anything at all if it's resetting every week. Sure, yeah. If you hang on to it until you – Yeah, but you use it. Right. That's how most leagues have it.

I don't think many leagues have it where you've got that number one waiver priority until you use it. You know, I hear that. There's some like that. I do hear that more than I would have anticipated. I have no idea. What percentage of leagues do you think that is? I have no idea. 20%? But there's a faction of our audience that does play in that format.

Right. I'm not telling you more people use FAB than have that. Well, what I'm saying is the whole should you use the number one waiver wire priority only matters to those people. It doesn't matter to people where it resets. Right. Right. Yeah, absolutely. And that's a case where it depends on what you need, which is kind of the theme that I think we're going with here.

Okay. All right, then. So keep an eye out. I just want to say one thing about Kittle. He had five catches for 90 yards on nine targets. He also dropped a touchdown. He could have had a huge game. Maybe this was also a situation where good cornerbacks

for the Vikings, and I think they did have some injuries in their secondary though, maybe that's why Kittle had such a big game. How would you compare the legitimacy of what we saw from Kittle to what we saw from Jared Cook last night? The problem is that we'll be blinded by Jared Cook's past performances, which, I mean, Heath just brought up and made us all sick over. I thought all along that Kittle was going to be a big part of the San Francisco operation, and it's not like they didn't target Garcon. Dante Pettis had a touchdown, and Goodwin got hurt. Maybe Kittle has a couple of fewer targets if Goodwin's in the game for four quarters.

But that's also... I still feel like he's just a part of the plan. The matchup was probably some of it. I'd rather have Kittle than Cook. I'd rather have Kittle than any of these guys. You have to. And the thing with Kittle is, with McKinnon going down,

as much as they'll use Brita and to a lesser extent use Cech and Morris, he fills that role for them more so than ever before. Phillip Lindsey had 15 carries, same as Royce Freeman. They both had 71 yards. Lindsey had two catches, 31 yards, and a touchdown. That's in the receiving game. He only had three targets. I know he only had two catches, but lindsey show does lindsey set

up to be a very valuable ppr guy is he more valuable in ppr than none yeah which is what his role that that was the role he was battling for coming into training camp in the preseason and he did fine and we haven't said austin eckler's name who would you rather own eckler or lindsey eckler for me. Me too. I'll take my chances on Lindsey just because I think he'll be a little bit more involved, barring an injury. Now, if there's an injury, Eckler's going to have a much higher ceiling because he'll replace Melvin Gordon.

I think if Freeman goes down, he says Sunday night, if Freeman goes down, that's where I think Devontae Booker comes back into play. And I don't think Freeman's at risk of losing playing time. He averaged 4.7 yards per hour. So did Lindsey. Both of them had a great game against Seattle's run defense. It's just Lindsey caught a touchdown. Yeah, I mean, Eckler was great, but he only had 10 touches. Alright, we also have to talk about...

He's kind of like their Chris Thompson. Yeah, no. I have them back-to-back. I would take my chances on Lindsey over Eckler just because I think he'll do more. We also have to talk about who to drop this week, and we will certainly do that. But it's time for our new segment. It is time for the idiot moron move of the week.

We're all going to talk about our worst start to decision. And I feel bad because I don't think I made any that was terrible. None of us probably made any terrible ones. Like they ended up being bad, but I didn't do anything that was so outlandish. But we're going to see who's the big idiot moron. And if you're confused, what am I talking about? Well, on a show on a Tuesday, I guess probably three Tuesdays ago, Heath and I had just come back from our podcast for the People League draft on Monday night.

We drafted Carson Wentz in a 10-team league. It was one of our last picks. And Heath dropped him without my consent during the show. And I was like, no, you're joking, you're joking. No, he really dropped him. And I was quite mad about it, and then this happened. You really did it. I can't believe this.

I have a picture to prove it. You idiot. You are such an idiot. Like, what the hell is the matter with you? You moron. I hate you. So who is the idiot moron of the week? I will start.

I started Tyler Eifert over George Kittle in multiple leagues. I did not think Kittle would have a good game against the Vikings. I did think Eifert would have a good game. I may have bought into Eifert a little bit too hard. That was my idiot moron move of the week. I started Tyler Eifert over George Kittle. Anybody else want to volunteer? I'll go. I lost to a certain fantasy writer by one point this week

because I started Jack Doyle in the PPR ahead of George Kittle. Did you watch the full Lions-Jets game yet? Yes. Matt Prater also killed you. Yeah, because he missed one. You went to bench him, obviously. Right. Oh, wow.

You missed because of that? He missed a pretty easy one, didn't he? He did, and he missed a 56-yard kick also. Yeah, I think Matt Prater is the idiot moron on your team. Well, but that wasn't a lineup decision. No, no. He's just an idiot moron. When I was watching, I knew what the score was between us,

and I was like, okay, Prater is going to get a field goal here at some point and will probably be tied. And then when they scored, I was like, oh. They scored, going to get a field goal here at some point, and we'll probably be tied. And then when they scored, I was like, oh. They scored, and he had a field goal, so he had four points. I was like, okay, Dave's going to win. And then when he missed the 44-yard field goal, I was like, yes! I got it! So that's the fantasy writer. I had seven games last night

that I had a chance to win on Monday Night Football, and I think I won one of them. I also, I made an idiot moron move letting Heath leave the building on Friday without him trading me James Conner in our Dynasty League. Call me crazy, Heath, and you'll say,

no, you didn't do this. I think I was close to a deal. I was willing to give up Jimmy Graham and something else in the Dynasty League. I made you the counteroffer. What was the counteroffer? Jimmy Graham and Anthony Miller for James Conner. I said yes to that.

So we should go retroactively and make that happen. You said no to that? I think I went, yeah, I said no to that. I love Anthony Miller. Yeah, but Conner's going to be a stealer starting running back next year. Maybe. Maybe. I don't think there's a maybe.

Well, maybe now there's not a maybe. All right, back to idiot morons. So far I've got Dave Beat because starting Eifert over Doyle. I started Eifert instead of Kittle. You started Doyle instead of Kittle. So far I've got Dave beat because starting Eifert over Doyle. I started Eifert instead of Kittle. You started Doyle instead of Kittle. So far I win. Heath, Jamie, what do you got? The most painful of all my idiot moron moves this week.

Remember like June when I was the Isaiah Cruel guy? And then July and then August and then all the way up until week three of the preseason when I finally caved and put Bilal Powell ahead of Isaiah Crowell. I started Powell, had Crowell on my bench last night, and lost by two points. All right, all right. That's a contender, Powell over Crowell. Jamie, what was your worst move? I didn't have any bad lineup decisions.

I just had a bad tweet. So after the Sam Darnold interception, I tweeted, Lions DST was the easiest play of the week. No. Or one of the easiest calls of the week. And I'm still not hearing the end of that one. Yeah, that's bad. It wasn't any more.

It is pretty impressive to not have any bad lineup decisions all week. Well, when you said 20 million different lineups, I'm not going to go through them all. It's all right. I'll allow it. I'll allow it. I'm not going to go through them all. It's all right. I'll allow it. I'll allow it. I'm not going to play Adam's game. All right.

So who's the winner here? Oh, Powell. I think it might be me. What do you guys think? Eifert over Kittle. It can't be Dave because my decision was worse than Dave's. Powell over Crowell. You are the idiot moron because if you'd never thrown the

fit over carson wentz we would have picked up adrian peterson and we would have won in that league fine i i accept that however i swear if you drop carson wentz i'm going no like it's over do not do it no way injuries news and notes aaron rogers may not be able to play this week so if aaron rogers doesn't play are you going to start any Packers? Any Packers? I'm nervous about Rodgers if he does play. This is a tough matchup. This is a tough spot for all the Packers.

Everybody's going to run to Randall Cobb again. He's got a horrible track record against the Vikings. You can't start Geronimo Allison in this game, even though he looked great. I would say Jimmy Graham and Adams are the only ones you're starting, and Graham is kind of by default. Yeah, I'm starting Adams for sure. I'm starting Rodgers if he plays, and I'm probably starting Graham. If we look at all the wide receivers and what they've done against the Vikings,

we'll have nice debates about Devontae Adams because they're just amazing. Xavier Rhodes is just the best, arguably. But you know what? We have plenty of time for that. Marcus Mariota likely to play this week. Buffalo has not decided on a quarterback yet, and I said this on Sunday, I believe, but Chris Mortensen reported that Carson Wentz has not been ruled out for week two.

I'm assuming we don't expect Carson Wentz? No. No. Okay. Running backs, Leonard Fournette, day-to-day. LeGarrette Blount left with a knee injury. Let's get a little carry on Johnson in there. I don't know.

The Lions can't run. I don't know that Blount could have looked any worse yesterday. Jeremy Hill out for the season. That's a pretty big one. What's the impact of Jeremy Hill being out for the year with a torn ACL? It's great news for Rex Burkhead. Assuming he can hold up. And Sonny Michel, if he's healthy. Yeah, sure. And James White

currently. Yeah, it's great news for fantasy because now we've got one less chef in the kitchen. Basically everyone but Jeremy Hill. Well, it's bad for him. Yeah. Jay Ajayi is going to be a workhorse for the Eagles. That's also great news. Yeah, and that came straight from the coach. The coach said that he needs

more playing time and more touches. Doug Baldwin is a partially torn MCL. There's no timetable for his return. Deshaun Jackson, concussion, and Marquise Goodwin day-to-day with a bruised thigh. So I think that's why we won't be going crazy over Dante Pettis because Goodwin has a good chance to play this week. Delaney Walker's out for the season with a broken ankle and ligament damage. Jonu Smith is his replacement in Tennessee. And on the offensive line, left tackle Taylor Luan for the season with a broken ankle and ligament damage. Jonu Smith is his replacement in Tennessee.

And on the offensive line, left tackle Taylor Luan for the Titans. He's in the concussion protocol as they get ready for Houston. They're going to need him against Houston. Detroit guard TJ Lang left with an injury. They're at San Francisco this week. And Houston's bad offensive line has gotten worse. Chantrell Henderson, their right tackle's out for the year. It may have gotten better.

I don't know. They're going to be starting a rookie now at left tackle because they're moving their left tackle to right. Henderson was bad to begin with, though. Yeah, it is. That's true. But he's a hurricane, so you know. On defense, Keanu Neal for the Falcons.

He's out for the season with a torn ACL. Minnesota's got two banged-up cornerbacks, Mackenzie Alexander and Trey Waynes. Houston's slot cornerback Kevin Johnson's going to miss some time. Pittsburgh cornerback Joe Hayden hurt his hamstring as they get ready for Kansas City. Detroit defensive end Ezekiel Onslaught left with a shoulder injury. Dallas defensive end Randy Gregory has a concussion,

and that's pretty significant for the Cowboys. And Cleveland had lost 13 season openers in a row before they didn't lose this past season opener. They tied. Congratulations. This is their best start since 2004. That's pretty, that's amazing. Let's recap the games for the next like 10 minutes or so, and then we will do the waiver

wire. Hardcore into the waiver wire. Green Bay 24, Chicago 23. Jamie, Jamal Williams, was it just the game script got away from them? Yeah, I mean, he didn't have a lot of running room, so they got off to a horrible start, and Rodgers going down

didn't help matters at all. But I was disappointed, clearly. If you were to tell me he was getting 15 touches, I thought he would perform better. I was really disappointed about his uses in the passing game, two targets, no catches. So with the matchup against the Vikings on the table, probably not going to do well, especially if Rodgers doesn't play. And then you have Aaron Jones back.

So he may have missed his opportunity to solidify himself as the guy. Now you're not cutting Williams, but this was not the start you were hoping to see if you are investing in Williams. You've got to trade for Aaron Jones. You just pick him up. He's only 60% on. That would be super, but if he's owned, now's the time. Or trade him. If he's owned, you're owned.

Or trade Williams to the Jones owner. Now I don't think that the Redskins are going to have a very good run defense. The three games that the Packers have after Aaron Jones returns from suspension in week three at Washington, home against Buffalo at Detroit. That is just a cakewalk, potentially. Yeah, that's nice.

That could be for Williams. I don't think he lost the job, but let's not overreact. It wasn't a great game for him. But the good thing is Montgomery didn't really get that many carries. All right, whatever. So Geronimo Allison, Randall Cobb, Devontae Adams, they all scored. Cobb had a beautiful 70-yard catch and run. What do you think of the Packers wide receivers other than Adams?

We know what he is. It'll be interesting if the targets stay anywhere close to this even because it's going to be hard for davante adams to be a top 10 guy if he's not dominating targets and it's going to make cobb and allison both flexible maybe even number two receivers some weeks if they are getting this many targets so that that'll be interesting to watch from those frustrating because jimmy graham didn't do anything. When he does start to get involved, which he will, obviously, he's going to probably guess wrong on which

Packers receiver, the secondary guys, because you're going to start Adams most weeks. Adam, run those teams that they're playing in weeks three, four, and five, the Packers? They're at Washington, home against Buffalo, and at Detroit, I think. It's those three teams. If they're running the ball better against those teams and their defense plays a little bit better,

then I don't think anybody's getting close to eight targets. Oh, no. Eight targets? That's not that many. They have 40-plus attempts in those games. I think Devontae Adams is going to get eight targets a game. I think he will, but I don't think the other two. They had 37 pass attempts total.

Assume that probably goes up three or four with Rodgers not going out. When they're chasing points in a high-scoring game, of course. I don't think he's throwing less than 35 pass attempts a game. I don't care how they're running the ball. Again, Williams had 15 carries. Put that number at five more. You go from 40 pass attempts to 35,

and he gets 20 carries, or the running game gets 20 carries, because they had 18 total. They also only had the ball for 26 minutes, 38 seconds. Yeah, I mean, they're still going to be around 8 to 10 targets each, regardless. Who do you like better, Cobb or Allison? I'm going to speed it up. Cobb or Allison, rest of the season? Cobb, but not by much.

I mean, that's how I felt about it going into the season. I'm not changing my opinion on these guys after this game. Because they won't have a ton of games like this where they're down big in the second half. But they're obviously going to score more than 24 points, though. I mean, it's not like they're... Right, but you said it yourself. Graham is going to get more involved in the offense. And the run game should get going.

And I think we've got to be a little worried about Aaron Rodgers. Well, that's a different story altogether. I mean, if he's hurt... Does he survive 15 more games? Did the Packers run one play from the red zone? That wouldn't surprise me. Maybe two. The Adams touchdown, I think, was in the red zone.

All right, guys. We've got to move on. We've got to move on, or else we'll never get to the waiver wire. Rams 33, Oakland 13. All right, Jared Goff, how do you come out of this game feeling about the passing game for the Rams? Another team just chopped it up. He missed Woods twice wide open on big plays. And they used Cooks as a deep ball threat,

and he drew penalties that helped him out. And that keeps other guys open. He flopped. And Mr. Red Zone. Mr. Red Zone was Mr. Red Zone again. Cooper Cupp. They have really nice chemistry for sure. And you talk about even target distribution.

Cooks had eight. Woods had nine. Cupp had nine. So are you encouraged about Brandon Cooks, or do you think he's going to be disappointing? I mean, if he's going to get eight targets weekly, that's much more than Sammy Watkins got. I think Watkins had, what, eight for the season?

So, you know, Cooks' involvement. If it's evenly distributed, it's going to make it frustrating for us. But if they're all going to get eight-plus targets on a weekly basis, then they'll have opportunities to be successful. We need to rewind real quick because I think we maybe missed one of the most important things on the Bears-Packers game. What's that? Jordan Howard had more targets, more catches,

and I believe more routes run than Tariq Cohen. Oh, he was awesome. Yeah. He really was awesome. He's probably a number one running back. Absolutely. Yeah. He is for this week.

Okay. He's probably a number one running back. Absolutely. He is for this week. Finally, can we just chuck up the bad game for Cooper to the matchup? Sure. They went away from both their receivers. Derek Harlow is awful. Maybe he is. Fantasy wasteland.

Do you know that the three highest paid quarterbacks based on their cap hit Maybe it is. Fantasy Wasteland. Do you know that, I think it's, if I heard this correctly on the radio this morning, the three highest paid quarterbacks based on their cap hit are Stafford, Garoppolo, and Derrick Carr, and they combine for 10 interceptions. The nice thing for the Raiders is I think they can walk away next year for only $7.5 million. Jordy Nelson, 94% owned. Is he droppable? Not yet.

No. Okay. 10 team leagues, yes. Jets, 48. Detroit Not yet. No. Okay. 10 team leagues, yes. Jets 48, Detroit 17. Absolute domination. Jets scored their first defensive touchdown in 74 games. All right. So, look.

Powell and Crowell, they both played well. They both played, I think, the same amount of snaps, actually. One of them did not play in the fourth quarter at all when it was a blowout. Does that mean anything to you? That they saved one of them? No play in the fourth quarter at all when it was a blowout. Does that mean anything to you? That they saved one of them? No. That's Crowell. Yeah.

I don't know because I think Powell had two carries in the fourth quarter. I'm probably going to rank below Powell higher again this week. If Powell doesn't have the thing with his eye, he scores the first touchdown or at least has the opportunity to score the first touchdown. And then Crowell has the big breakaway run. So, I think... It's kind of fluky. Yeah. So, I think you look at it,

the fact that Powell averaged five yards a carry to me is encouraging. And maybe a little bit more so encouraging than what Crowell did. Just because, again, the big run is going to make his numbers look much more impressive than it was. And he was off the field because of, you know of an injury situation. And this is a weird game for the Jets because they only threw 21 passes

because they had so many big plays, and 10 of them went to Quincy Inunua. But Powell did get 10% of the targets in this game. Crowell got zero. So I think Powell's probably still going to be better, even though I'm an idiot moron. Crowell is a very good sell-high candidate. I think that the Jets receiving core, or the Lions receiving core, I hope it's not going to be one that drives us crazy,

but Kenny Galladay had the best game. He had 114 yards on 12 targets. Marvin Jones had 8 targets. Well, Golden Tate technically had the best game. He had the touchdown. He had 15 targets. How would you rank those three, rest of season? I mean, we've talked about this a lot, that when Galladay was healthy,

both Tate and Jones lost production. And their best games came when Galladay missed that five-game stretch with the hamstring problem. I think Galladay has the most upside. Galladay definitely has the most upside. I agree with you 100%. And a lot of his production came on Tremaine Johnson.

And so that was encouraging that they weren't shying away from that matchup. I think Claiborne spent a lot of time on Jones. I haven't looked at it fully yet, but Jones missed a touchdown. It was a bad throw. Three, I think. The one for sure that he could have had, but it wasn't the easiest throw and catch.

But Tate, I think, is still the safest play. Jones and Gallaudet, I think, are going to kind of flip-flop production week in, week out. Tate is the safest for sure in PPR. I don't know if I'm ready to say that in non-PPR, but because that run game is still so bad, that opens up Tate to be that run game extension, which is part of what he does, and that helps him get those targets, get those catches, and get those yards. Three deep targets from Marvin Jones.

I think he had four total targets that involved the end zone, either near the end zone or into the end zone. So I'm not ready to write him off yet. And I think all four hit his hands. No, they weren't all what I would call catchable, but we knew there was some regression coming from Marvin Jones. He wasn't going to average 18 yards a catch and score nine touchdowns

again. No, but they tried to make that happen. Right. We may just see some of the regression last night. Well, and I think you'll see it go the other way some weeks, where he will catch those deep passes, and Galladay won't have 100 yards. They need to fire Jim Bob Gooder. Wow. One game in, and we're ready to fire Jim Bob Gooder. The Jets knew in and we're ready to fire Jim Bob Gooder.

The Jets knew exactly what he was doing. They said so. Yeah, they did. I just like his name. He was pretty, you know, he was given, we were giving him a lot of praise when he first took over. He did a good job. I think they need to fire Matt Patricia. They're like, I am so, I'm kidding, by the way.

But I did mention this a lot of times. It was reported, you know, what they gave up on the ground without Haloti Nada last year when he got hurt, and they don't have him. And I really thought they were going to have one of the worst run defenses, and so far they're off to a wonderful start. They are looking like a great matchup for running backs. Yeah, I think Brita and Alfred Morris are certainly going to play next week by far. Yeah.

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first deposit. FanDuel.com slash FFT. Ordinarily, I would read that winning lineup. But instead, I think we need to move on and get to the waiver wire. Also, you need to go to Sportsline.com. So this is interesting. The Patriots-Jaguars game opened as a pick-em. And here's a stat I saw on CBS with Brady as their starting quarterback. The last time the Patriots were not favored

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Use the promo code fantasy. All right, to the waiver wire. Let's talk about these guys. Quarterbacks that you could use either for week two or going forward. Who are we looking at, Jamie? Tyrod Taylor is the best one. I don't think that's close, given

what he showed you with his running, which was the best part of his game against the Steelers, because he only completed 37.5% of his passes. Weather could have had an impact on that, but as Josh Gordon gets more involved, I think the passing game will get better. But I think given the matchup against the Saints,

not that he's going to do what Ryan Fitzpatrick did, but I think in a situation where they are chasing points, he will be successful not only this week, but have success moving forward. The Saints, going back to last year, have given up 318 or more passing guards to four straight quarterbacks. And I don't see that happening with Tyrod Taylor. It's not his game. But I don't know.

We've got to see how their defense does because it didn't finish well, and it certainly didn't start well in 2018. So Taylor at the Saints. There's Keenum, Dalton. Anybody want Keenum or Dalton this week? I've got Keenum ranked one spot ahead of Taylor this week. I'd much rather have Taylor for the rest of the year. But I do expect that he'll have a good game against the Raiders.

Okay. Keenum gets the Raiders, and he had 25 fantasy points, even though he had three intercepts. Pretty lucky, I think, Case Keenum, to get those 25 fantasy points. Dalton has Baltimore. Baltimore was great against quarterbacks last year. I think they allowed the fewest fantasy points. Dalton coming off a nice game, 19 fantasy points and only 28 pass attempts.

Dave, you want to weigh in? Taylor, Keenum, Dalton? No, I mean, I think Taylor and Keenum are probably the top two. I don't think anybody's ready to buy into Ryan Fitzpatrick just yet as a one-week band-aid. Same thing with Dalton. Same thing with Darnold. I think we'll disagree on number three because I think it's Darnold.

I just don't really want to – what am I picking him up for? What's the purpose? I just think he took advantage of a bad defense. Which he could do again with Miami if they're bad I just think he took advantage of a bad defense. Right. Which he could do again with Miami if they're bad. I don't think Miami's a bad defense. Oh. I don't think they'll be bad at home.

I'm not sure that they won't be bad on the road. But who, so who's picking up quarterbacks this week? Obviously if you. Aaron Rodgers owners for sure. I got another one that's just like that though. And that's Deshaun Watson. Because that line went from not very good to really really there are people that started dak prescott week one two yeah sure so you can oh i get it i'm sorry

yeah but i'm not starting any of these guys over watson what's still top no no no no i'm talking about i need an insurance policy on my bench because i don't know how much longer deshaun watson's gonna last he's he's dropping back in the pocket and he's slow to read and that offensive line can't hold up for more than two seconds. He also played against a team that had six months to prepare for him and knew what to expect because they faced him last year. He was without a second-best receiver, and as bad as that line looked, he still gave you 40 yards rushing, which is going to help his rushing

because he's going to have to escape the pocket a lot. So while he may die, that could certainly happen, I don't think his offensive line is going to necessarily increase his fantasy value dramatically or tear it down dramatically because, I mean, you can say the same thing about Mahomes. He's going to have a bad offensive line in front of him. He's still going to make plays. I mean, you know, it's a byproduct of, I think, the upside versus the downside, yes, but I don't think it's enough to make me say

I'm benching Deshaun Watson unless he's playing Jacksonville. Which is going to happen two more times this year. I would not bench him this week. I would not bench him this week at all. No, no, no, no, no. I do agree with Dave that you're watching this week. If he has another game

where he looks like he did as a passer, then I'm considering benching him. Maybe I didn't communicate this the right way. If I've got Deshaun Watson as my starter, I'd like to have a good backup quarterback on my bench. Or I'd like to identify minimum three quarterbacks on the waiver wire who I can go and pick up in case of emergency. So basically what I'm doing is kind of putting some doom and gloom on Deshaun Watson.

Let's play the long game. Forget about Watson because you're right. If it's Watson, if you own Matthew Stafford, if you're concerned about – Rodgers is also one. Yeah, if you have Rodgers, you obviously need to look at a quarterback. But let's talk long term. Who are the guys that – like does Mitchell Trubisky have long-term upside? Does Sam Darnold? long-term who are the guys that like does mitchell trubisky have long-term upside uh does does sam

darnold does ryan tannahill uh at least upside to be worth worthy of a start you know you're gonna think this is gross but tyrod is one but flacco's another i think flacco played great it was buffalo you can say what you will about buffalo but he's he's been reborn a little bit and i think they wanted to show it off in that game against Buffalo. And I think they'll continue to show it off. I think Flacco's going to be a good backup quarterback. Yeah, but not this week, though. Short week on the road.

Again, not ready to start Joe Flacco this week over any of the guys that we've talked about. Wouldn't even stream him. But he's a guy that, okay, one of the three quarterbacks that are on waivers who I would turn to in case of emergency with my starter. So Fitzpatrick, I mean, I think it's actually a shame that he has Philadelphia because I wouldn't completely dismiss him. He's now in his last five games with 30 or more pass attempts.

He's had 20 or more fantasy points three times. But I don't think you can trust him against the Eagles, right? No. Yeah. You don't have to. You don't think you can trust them against the Eagles, right? No. Yeah. You don't have to. You don't have to. For what? Trubisky, 33% owned.

It was frustrating because I thought he looked pretty good. He just didn't really throw the ball downfield. They got way too conservative after getting the lead. And then when it was the drive at the end of the game, he looked terrible. He looked jittery. Not a good look. So, yeah, I guess we're going to be kind of bearish on Trubisky, not rushing to pick him up. And then dropping, who are some guys that you'd be hesitant to drop?

It's only one week. Let's not freak out about Stafford? Sure. Not yet. And Ben. People are going to drop Ben. No, they're not. Who's dropping Ben? Oh, they definitely will. He was the number 12 quarterback in ADP. People were barely drafting him as a starter. I don't think people are dropping Ben Roethlisberger.

He's going nuts this week. I think he's going nuts this week. He's my number two quarterback. Me too. He's going to be our starter of the week this week. Ooh, fun. All right. Ben Roethlisberger. And Dak Prescott, Eli Manning, Marcus Mariota. How droppable are they? Yes.

You can. Matt Ryan should be on the list too. Smaller leagues. But the problem is, look at the waiver wire, guys. If Tyrod Taylor is number one with a bullet here, I don't want to drop Prescott, Mariota, and Eli. I'd rather have Taylor than any of them. That's fine, but then just him.

But what I'm saying is, like, would you rather have Keenum than all of them? Would you rather have Dalton? Would you rather have Flacco? It's probably going to be a matchup thing. It's too early to give up on Eli Manning, I think. Play Jacksonville, for God's sake. And if he had just hit Odell Beckham for a wide-open 33-yard touchdown, he would have had a good game against Jacksonville. He was a better quarterback.

He's not that good of a quarterback, but guess what? Tyrod Taylor was 15 of 40. Tyrod Taylor was 15 of 40 as the number one draft pick sitting on the bench. You're way too high on Tyrod Taylor. Do you think Tyrod Taylor is better than Carson Wentz, for goodness sake? Come on. As a Giants fan, after watching last night, would you rather them take Sam Darnold or say go Carson?

Yes, Sam Darnold. That whole – you guys are so stupid. Don't drop Carson Wentz, please. All right, running backs, running backs. So with Fournette banged up, Freeman should be fine. We don't know about Michelle. Hopefully we get Marlon Mack back this week. Jeremy Hill's out for the year.

Kenneth Dixon's banged up. Garrett Bunt's banged up. We got T.J. Yeldon. We talked about him at the top of the show. You definitely want T.J. Yeldon. Phillip, well, sorry. You don't definitely want T.J. Yeldon. Yes, you do.

I think you should add him regardless. Okay. It could be a waste him regardless okay it could be a waste of course it could be a waste right yes we we don't know if if uh he's even going to get a chance to play and we he could be the waste and a waste in as much as every handcuff or backup he is an injury prone running back in terms of linda fornette that just started to have a soft tissue injury. If that is a recurrence and he misses several weeks, which last week he missed two games in a row,

one was because of a suspension, but he still missed multiple weeks last season, then I think you could see a scenario where TJ Yeldon gets a ton of work. And what we see last year, when Fournette went down, Chris Ivory and Yeldon at separate times were very successful. Okay. Phillip Lindsay is only 2% owned. How owned do you think Phillip Lindsay should be? 70?

He'll be in the 50 to 60s. Okay. Austin Eckler had 10 touches for more than 100 yards and a touchdown, and he's at Buffalo this week. So, yeah. Could start him this week. Buck Allen, he's been talking about, makes some good points. Collins did fumble. Allen caught five passes

and they have Cincinnati on the road this week. Aaron Jones, we just talked about why you might want to pick him up. He has one more game. If Jamal Williams doesn't do well against Minnesota, which is a possibility, maybe Aaron Jones has a nice role when he comes back in week three at Washington. Naeem Hines,

we didn't talk about him, so we got some pass catchers here. Naeem Hines. We didn't talk about him, so we've got some pass catchers here. Naeem Hines with seven catches. Theo Riddick with five. Jamie, are you picking up Hines or Riddick in anything other than PPR? No. They're PPR options. Hines, I think, will be somewhat dependent on how healthy Marlon Mack is, but Riddick could benefit without Blunt in there

because if they're trailing based on their defense and they're in these hurry-up situations, he's going to have a lot of five-catch games. He'll have some more carries, too, because I don't think they're going to just take LeGarrette Blunt's workload, which in Week 1 was four carries. He'd get more. Oh, yeah, that's true. Abdullah could come back. Hines, I think, is locked into this passing downs gig.

Even when Robert Turbin comes back? Even when Robert Turbin comes back? Even when Robert Turbin comes back. Frank Gore had nine carries for 61 yards, but Jamie's got him last on this list. He's just 25%. Oh, and Frank Gore. So, yeah, it's going to be Yeldon. It's going to be Lindsey, Eckler, Buck Allen, probably the top four there. Who to drop?

I think Devante Booker's an easy drop, right? Yep. Yep. If you're the Royce Freeman owner, would you drop Booker? Yeah, to get Lindsey. Just as an example. You're going to try and get Lindsey. If you have Freeman, you've got to try and get Lindsey. Ronald Jones is an easy drop?

Or no? I don't see why you need to be patient with him. I think Tampa Bay would like to drop him at this point. I would much rather hold like to drop him at this point. Yeah, right? I would much rather hold on to him than either of the other two guys you put on this list. Giovanni Bernard and Devante Booker. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're saying something bad about Giovanni Bernard? I'm not saying anything bad.

I relinquished my claim on Team Geo on Sunday. They're not using him. Yeah. He's a handcuff. Jordan Wilkins Should we hang on to him? Yes Rashad Penny

Should we hang on to him? Absolutely Yes Trying to think Anybody else that you could see being dropped? You could drop Jeremy Hill Yeah Okay that's fine Heath

I'll agree with you on that Thanks Let's go to wide receiver Wide receiver Yeah, okay, that's fine, Heath. I'll agree with you on that. Thanks. Let's go to wide receiver. Wide receiver. We've got Doug Baldwin, Goodwin, Fuller, Jeffrey, Parker, DePonte Parker, Deshaun Jackson all dealing with injuries. Goodwin hopefully back this week. Same with Fuller.

So Quincy Inunua is number one. Does anybody disagree with Quincy Inunua as the number one? I think Dave did, right? I did. I'm still going to go Godwin. Does that depend on Deshaun Jackson's availability? No, no. But it's going to be better if Deshaun Jackson misses some time.

More targets open up for him. Godwin only had four targets, but he did catch a touchdown. Three catches, 41 yards, and a touchdown. Kenny Galladay. So Anunua, Godwin, Galladay. Are they must-hads? Yes, and I'll take Galladay over Godwin. So you're going to go Anunua, Galladay, Godwin?

Yes. Jamie, you're the same way? Anunua, Galladay, Godwin? No, I'm Anunua, Godwin, Galladay. But yes, Adam, they all should be added. Okay. John Brown. So then the rest of the list is a lot of guys that are pretty interesting.

John Brown for the Ravens. So he's at Cincinnati this week. Yeah, that's my number four. Brandon Marshall, Tyler Lockett, and Geronimo Allison. Let's stop there. John Brown, Brandon Marshall, Tyler Lockett, Geronimo Allison. Your thoughts on that group? I'd rather have the Seattle receivers than John Brown, and I love John Brown.

I'm kind of scared of the Baltimore situation. It's okay when the Packers receivers all have 8 to 10 targets. It's confusing. It's hard to know which one to rank the highest, but it's fine. They can all be good. Same thing with the Rams. With the Ravens, Willie Sneed and Michael Crabtree got six targets. John Brown got four.

They had two other players get six. It's good that they all scored touchdowns last week. Yeah, they played the Bills, too. That's got to count. Another thing that's just not going to happen every week, but I liked how often he was on the field. Snead is the slot guy. You could tell that Flacco is all about using those tight ends,

and I wish there was one tight end that we could identify there as being the guy. This is where Hayden Hurst really could dominate in fantasy once he gets back on the field and shows he can be an every-down player. But the difference for me is I can start Brandon Marshall or Tyler Lockett this week as a flex and feel perfectly good about it. I think John Brown's in that conversation too, even on a short week. I think there's more upside with him. Oh, for sure.

And that's what I would bank on with the uncertainty. Look, Baldwin could be two to three weeks. And if that's the case, then which is the better Seattle secondary receiver? Right. Hopefully we'll know by then. Well, let me tell you something actually that I overlooked. I wish I had looked at this, but I think actually the schedule for Lockett and Marshall might be kind of tough. At Chicago, they really might have a very good defense. Dallas, Dallas likes their young secondary.

I liked how Dallas' defense played against Carolina. At Arizona, that might not be easy. And then the Rams, that's their next four games. At Chicago, Dallas, at Arizona, and the Rams. Maybe I should have factored that in more when I proclaimed how much I wanted to add Tyler Lockett. Yeah, but Chicago and Arizona are much more theoretical, I think. They were not good defenses in Week 1. I don't know.

The Bears, I think, did pretty well, all things considered. I'm sorry, go ahead. No, no, I'm done. No, Heath, your point about John Brown's targets That wasn't a blowout Whereas Marshall and Lockett in competitive games They topped out at six targets Yeah, but Brown's targets came before it was a blowout That's my point though

Is that Brown would have had more if the game was competitive At least the assumption would be that And Marshall and Lockett While Russell Wilson needed them They didn't have such huge target distribution Can I toss another name out there? would be that. And Marshall and Lockett, while Russell Wilson needed them, they didn't have such huge target distribution. Can I toss another name out there? Yeah.

This isn't long-term. This is certainly short-term and probably not good for week two. But Philip Dorsett got seven targets from Tom Brady, caught a touchdown, didn't have a great receiving average, but that stood out to me. And that might be another receiver for until Edelman comes back. You can't use him in my stash. No, you can't. So you're basically talking about maybe a one. At Detroit week three, Miami week four.

And you think Chris Hogan is going to be so uninvolved? No. So that's why I wouldn't even bother with Phil Dorsett unless you're talking about deeper leagues with a late waiver claim. We've got to talk about Geronimo Allison. Geronimo Allison, John Ross, Mike Williams, these young wide receivers that could be in good offenses. There are so many names on this list. I really think you should just read the article. But I need you guys to kind of sum it up.

Who has the most upside? Who would you be looking at? Allison, Pettis, Ted Ginn, John Ross, Cole Beasley, Mike Williams, Ryan Grant, Phillip Dorsett, Willie Sneed, Tyrell Williams, Bruce Ellington, Deshaun Jackson. Yes, I listed every receiver in the NFL. I would have put Allison ahead of the Seahawks guys if we know for sure that Rodgers is 100%.

Also, to Heath's point, if you need someone to start this week, you're not starting Allison over probably Marshall or Lockett, just given the matchup against Minnesota. So this is kind of – I always struggle with this when I write the column of long-term versus short-term. And so short-term, the Seahawks guys are a little bit better because, again, Marshall's situation comparatively to Rodgers' situation. So if you're just looking for a long-term stash,

I think Allison has more upside than the Seahawks guys, and maybe even John Brown. But I mean, you know how much I liked him coming into the season, so it was encouraging to see the way he played. But just so much uncertainty right now with that situation. Are you ready for another Heath flip-flop? Or Heath 180? Mike Williams.

Mike Williams. Over Tyrell? Well, no, over everybody you just mentioned. Okay, so give me your priorities then. Where would you put Mike Williams? I'm with you on this. The top six or seven, I think, are the same. It's just in a different order.

But after you get past the Seattle wide receivers, they threw the ball deep to Tyrell Williams. He dropped a touchdown. Travis Benjamin dropped a touchdown and cost himself another 40 yards or something on another drop. In the second half of that game, Phillip Rivers just started throwing the ball to Mike Williams

and Mike Williams caught it and looked like a good receiver. I'm definitely more excited about him than I am John Ross, who got two targets and had three yards. We didn't even see Williams score, which is going to be a huge part of his game because he's got that big size and single coverage in the end zone. I'm not saying he's there yet.

That was a big step, actually. It's a guy you want to stash. That's definitely a guy you want to stash. Again, I'm surprised, only 54% owned. And they've got Buffalo. And usually going cross-country to Buffalo is actually a pretty tough thing to do. I don't know that we're going to feel that way this week when the Chargers go there. Tight ends we've got to talk about here.

I think we'll just save team name Tuesday for tomorrow. We'll do team name Tuesday on a Wednesday. So I've got your team names. I will get to them. Try to get some emails at the end of the show. But tight ends, all right, we've talked about George Kittle. He'd be our number one priority. Jared Cook, Eric Ebron, Ben Watson, Austin Safarian Jenkins, Jamie.

That's how you rank the top four after Kittle. Cook, Ebron, Watson, Safarian Jenkins. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to get past what Cook's involvement was in that game last night with the 12 targets and how he was used, and he looked explosive. So I guess we'll chase the unicorn for one week and see how it goes but if there is a week to buy into it with all the injuries of tight end and the matchup um you know i i think there's an opportunity him for opportunity here for him to build off that i still think jack doyle is going to be the better of the two tight ends

for the colts but ebron had the biggest play and you know he's going to be a significant playmaker and then watson safarian jenkins are still going to be a significant playmaker. And then Watson, Safarian Jenkins are still going to be involved in their respective offenses. If Safarian Jenkins scores the touchdown, the perception of him is going to be different, but it's almost Safarian Jenkins, so he didn't score again. But this is a team that is without a clear-cut number one receiver, and you saw Bortles look for him in the red zone. He also looked for Niles Paul in the red zone, so he's going to lean on his tight ends

because you look at the size of his receivers. They're not very big outside of Moncrief, and Moncrief stinks. And Watson, while he didn't have a huge game in a game where Drew Brees threw for 400-plus yards, he was still fourth in targets. Cameron Meredith didn't play. And so there will be better days for him ahead. But the fact that he's still involved in this offense and what he did in 2015, I think that's worth buying into.

I like Johnnie Smith after a lot of those guys. I think he's got some good involved in this offense and what he did in 2015, I think that's worth finding too. I like Jonu Smith after a lot of those guys. I think he's got some good potential in this offense. Yeah, I liked him coming out of FIU a couple of years ago. I think he's got some upside to him. He's got a little bit of athleticism. He would actually be third on this list for me. I'd go Cook, Ebron, and then Jonu. I don't know if I love going Cook over Ebron,

just knowing who Jared Cook is and what he's done. As much as I love Eric Ebron. At least Eric Ebron. You know who Eric Ebron is. But I feel like his role is pretty well defined in Indianapolis. I think there's a lack of great receivers. I'm going to say the same thing that I did during the preseason. Who's that number two guy?

Now, if you're going to go off of targets, Cook. Ebron wasn't even fourth, I don't think. Right, because Ryan Grant had more. Doyle had more. And Hines had more. And Hines had more, too. And Cook's the number one in Oakland. Well, sure.

Yeah, I just think with me. He just makes me nervous. Based on Gruden and Olsen and how they featured Cook, if it was no Doyle, if you were to say that Doyle's getting the Alex Collins treatment because he fumbled and he's going to be benched, then it's Ebron without a question. But the fact that he was five targets less than Doyle,

and if he take away the touchdowns, I think this is big for when people are looking at the waiver wire. I know I'm trying to rush this. I apologize. But when people are looking at waiver wire claims and looking at production'm trying to rush this. I apologize. But when people are looking at waiver wire claims and looking at production from especially week one, please do not chase touchdowns. That is the worst mistake you can make is chase touchdowns. Look at usage.

Look at targets. Look at playing time. That's so much more important than a guy falling into the end zone. As good as a bronze catch may be, Doyle was much more involved. And so Cook was much more involved. Those things are so much more important than what the guy scoring gave you because that's not replicable. So you're not a fan of Will Disley?

I like Disley, given the offense. Yeah, he's interesting. I mean, he has 105 yards. He's interesting. I'd rather have him than ASJ. I'll take John O'Smith over both. Well, how do we feel about Smith's matchups? He's got Houston, then at Jacksonville, then Philadelphia

in his next three games. I don't know what to expect from Houston in terms of how they're going to cover tight ends, but this does seem like three kind of tough matchups for Johnny Smith. I don't mind the matchup against Houston at home. The next two, I do have trouble with. And then he's got Baltimore two weeks after that Philly game. So yeah, those matchups are tough.

But aren't teams, like, Jacksonville's not going to be bad against tight ends, but that's how you're going to have to attack them in the passing, right? Over the middle? You can't. The Giants tried to do it. Nevin Ingram gave the ball away. Yeah, they tried, though. So Ian Thomas is Greg Olson's replacement. Ricky Seals-Jones has a good matchup at

the Rams. Antonio Gates is at Buffalo. You can look at these guys. Any interest in a Dallas tight end against the Giants? No. No, the curse is broken. Well, I don't know. It did get called back. And then, hey, where's O.J. Howard, dude?

42% owned. He had a lot more snaps than Cameron Bray. That's always been the case. Two targets. He got into my top 20 tight ends this week. So I'm moving him up. Yeah, he's got the Eagles. It's not going to be a good week for him.

So forget I said it. Kickers, Dustin Hopkins, Ryan Suckup, Cody Parkey. They could have good weeks. And DST, this is not the best week for DST streamers. Like the great matchups are defenses that are already widely owned. But Jamie's got the Bears against Seattle, the Patriots at Jacksonville, and the Panthers at Atlanta. I like the other side of that Panthers-Falcons game.

Oh, yeah, the Falcons. Me too. Cam's track record is terrible against this defense. Without Neal in there, I think that's going to be a bad defense. I don't think it's going to be a bad defense. That's their home opener. It's Cam on the road. And I think the first game or two, Cam, without Olsen,

he may not be quite the same, passing the ball. Yeah, Falcons, yeah, 29% owned. Interesting. And they lost their right tackle too, right? Panthers did, yeah. Yeah, Darrell Williams, he left again. So I don't know what his status is. All right, Falcons, any other streamers, DSTs you guys want to talk about?

Really, not the best streaming week for DSTs. No, there was one kicker that I like that we didn't talk about. That's Sturgis. Yeah, I love Sturgis. As long as the weather cooperates in Buffalo. Right. All right. Let's read some emails. Finish the show with your emails.

By the way, Adam Vinatieri is 70% owned. Is he a kicker that should be 100% owned? Vinatieri? Yes. Good luck. Healthy. Absolutely. a kicker that should be 100 owned vinitary yes sure luck healthy absolutely right yeah yeah he probably should be i i he's i like him a lot more when he's indoors but fair john in pittsburgh hey larry curly and mo i drafted james connor in the 14th round i do not own levy on bell uh should i trade con Connor for Lamar Miller? Nope. I think you could get more than that. He's such a great situation with Ingram

if Bell is in fact coming back at the end of the month. I think I'd just ride Connor out. He does have Mark Ingram, yeah. This is from Danimal from Cape Carl, Florida. Dear Skeeter, Doug, Roger, and Patty. That is a TV show named of one of the characters mentioned. Doug, right?

Yes. You watched that when you were a kid, right? You guys should have heard how good I did on the mailbag with these names. Oh, yeah. It was amazing. It was like big time. Big time. All right.

I have Royce Freeman. Should I pick up Philip Lindsay and drop Deion Lewis, Carson, Thompson, Eckler, Mike Williams? Standard scoring. I love all those guys. I don't want to drop any of them. Yeah, I wouldn't drop any of those guys for Philip Lindsay. I would rather have Philip Lindsay and Mike Williams in a vacuum, but if I have a team with Carson, Lewis, Thompson, and Eckler on my bench, I don't know. He also only has a certain amount of free agent moves. I would drop – if I had Royce Freeman, I would drop Eckler for Lindsay.

I'd drop Williams for Lindsay. Well, then he's got – then he has a little bit of a roster imbalance at that point, right? Because he's got too many bench running backs. It sounds like Mike Williams is his only bench receiver, and he has four bench running backs. But wouldn't you rather have Lindsey and Eckler? Lindsey over Eckler if you were the Freeman owner? I would try and trade Eckler to the Gordon owner

and Thompson to the Peterson owner. Thompson looked good, by the way. He did. Peterson looked good, too. Peterson had a lot of run in the second half. Thompson looked good. Brian the way. He did. So did Peterson. Peterson looked good, too. Peterson had a lot of run in the second half. Thompson looked good. Brian from D.C. Dear Benny, Vivian, Giselle, and Tom.

Beautiful people? I don't know who Benny and Vivian are. Tom Brady's pretty beautiful. Brian says, half PPR, need help at wide receiver and running back. So is there a question here? Oh, should I drop any of these guys? Sorry. Doug Baldwin, Sonny Michelle, Marlon Mack, Matt Breida, Jamison Crowder.

Crowder, maybe. I think Crowder is the most droppable. Okay. No name or city, Dave. Who do we got here? Hans from St. Paul, Minnesota. Hans says, on a scale of 1 to 10 on the crazy-o-meter, how crazy is it to start both Golden Tate and Kenny Galladay?

Well, Matthew Stafford looked great. Stafford was awesome. So if you want to buy into him doing that on a weekly basis. He just threw a bunch of bad throws. The interceptions were disgusting. And he got hurt. I think the receivers played fine. Those guys were fine.

Reading the rest of the email, it's not crazy at all. He'd have to start them over Crabtree. I'd start them both over Crabtree. I went back and looked. This is the first four-interception game for Stafford since 2013. In 2015, he did have a game with 188 yards, one touchdown, and three picks against Arizona. It was a terrible game.

He followed that up with 405 yards and four touchdowns and an interception against the Bears the next week. He's reversed Jared Cook. Hopefully, yes. He's normally a very good quarterback. Rob in Western Pennsylvania. 16-team standard league. Just lost Delaney Walker.

Do I put a moderate to high fab bid on Ebron? Do I put a low to average bid on Jonu Smith? Do I put a low to no bid on a one-week guy like Charles Clay? What do you do if you just lost Walker? Spend a lot on Ebron, some on Smith, or basically nothing on someone like Charles Clay? I wouldn't go moderate high on Ebron. I'd go low to moderate on Ebron and then have John Rue Smith as the backup.

I'm looking at like 10% on Ebron. It's a 16-team league, though. Yeah, but in a 16-team league, you're going to have to stop. And he just lost Delaney Walker, so you might want to go a little bit higher than that. Remember, when you're bidding on tight ends this week, there are two owners looking for a starter because Walker and Olsen both went down. So you have to be somewhat aggressive with it unless you're just going to try and say, okay, if I miss on Cook, if I miss on Ebron,

if Kittle's not available, do I settle for John O'Smith or Ian Thomas or Disley or any of these guys that are going to be widely available and just hope that you get your secondary option. But if you want to get the guy that you want in Cook or Ebron, most likely, you have to be a little bit more aggressive with your bid. Do you put in a trade offer for Jimmy Graham or Trey Burton and try and get one of those guys?

After a bad game, maybe the owner who drafted them is feeling a little skittish. That's a good idea. Sure. From Bruce, last one. Or Ertz or Kelsey. Last one here. Yeah, but those guys. I don't think we answered the question. People have those guys.

Okay, you would do like a moderate bid on Eric Ebron. Let's call it 20% on Ebron. Yeah, I'd go 10% on Ebron, 5% on Janu, 4% on Janu. Okay, last one from Bruce. Where's he from? Dalton, Illinois. I am the Melvin Gordon owner, and I'm trading Eckler to the guy who thinks yesterday is how Eckler will be used all year, right?

There's no shot they become Ingram Kamara like this season, right? Or like last season. Could happen. I mean, you heard what Pete Prisco, Drake, told us in Los Angeles when he was out talking to Phillip Rivers that Rivers thinks he could be his Danny Woodhead. So if that's going to be the case and he's getting, what do you have, six targets in the game? Five targets in the game? Five catches, right?

Yeah, five targets, five catches, five carries. The nice thing is he did that with Gordon going off. It wasn't like Gordon was having a bad game. Gordon was fantastic. What happens if Gordon goes down? He's a star. And what happens if this just continues? Now they're not going to be chasing points like this,

especially this week against Buffalo, but I think Eckler can be penciled in for 10 touches on a weekly basis. And can he get you 50, 60 total yards in those 10 touches and then score a few times on top of it? I think that's realistic. That said, he could be a good sell-high candidate. Absolutely. Right, yeah.

It depends what you're getting, which is always the case. I just had a terrible thought. Uh-oh. Let's say somebody offered you in a PPR league Derek Henry for Austin Eckler. Take Henry? You're not. You get that trade offer? No.

I was looking at my rankings. We're talking about selling high on Austin Eckler, and that would be buying low theoretically on Derrick Henry. Absolutely. Yeah, he's a great buy low candidate. I mean, the ultimate sell high candidate, though, is James Conner. All right. Well, we'll talk about that on tomorrow's show.

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