Fantasy Football Today - 09/13: Start or Sit (NFC); Drop Cam or Howard? (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 13, 2019

Recapping TB-CAR. How concerned are we about Cam Newton and O.J. Howard? Are Greg Olsen and Peyton Barber going to be reliable? Buy low on Mike Evans! Then we've got interesting stats about the NFC ho...me games (12:45), a fun tweet from a competing Fantasy Football analyst (15:00), and your news and notes (17:15) ... How do we feel about DeAndre Hopkins in DFS (21:30)? And let's play Beat the Waiver Wire (24:40) and get the Startometer out (27:50) for key players in these games: BUF-NYG, DAL-WAS, CLE-NYJ ... LAC-DET (33:00), MIN-GB (42:40), NO-LAR (48:50), PHI-ATL (54:40), DAL-WAS (1:01:00), BUF-NYG (1:05:00), CLE-NYJ (1:07:35) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Get your lineup set. It's time for Start or Sit. Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Alright, welcome to the Friday show, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Raise your hand if you started Ronald Jones. I would have both of my hands up. I started him, I think, in two leagues last night. Not looking very good so far. Yeah. Who did you start him over? Tevin Coleman. Okay, that makes some sense.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Tough call there, huh? I don't really remember the rest of my craptastic running backs, but yeah, I had to start Ronald Jones. It was disappointing. Hey, remember that report before the game that he was going to get more work? That didn't happen. Welcome. Good times.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Welcome to Friday, everybody. Happy Friday, Friday the 13th, and Tampa Bay beats Carolina 20-14. At least the finish was exciting. Good morning, Dave and Jamie. At least the finish was exciting, right morning, Dave and Jamie. At least the finish was exciting, right? Sure. Don't play call. It was a silly play call and an ugly finish to what was mostly an ugly game.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Unless you like field goals. Then it was a really great game for you. But yeah, not a great game. A lot of big fantasy questions coming out of this one. And we are going to talk about the nfc home games there are six of them plus cleveland at the jets which we didn't talk about yesterday i'm sorry i forgot to mention we were saving that till today's show but actually it worked out because sam sam darnold uh is like a sophomore in college because i thought those were the only
Starting point is 00:01:42 people that get mono um i never heard of like adults getting mono but how about actually I think my dad had mono when he was like in his late 20s. You guys ever have mono? No. Now there's a girl who I liked in college who got mono and I didn't like her anymore. Was she a sophomore? She was a
Starting point is 00:02:00 freshman. Ah, all right. Well, she was a year ahead of her time. We'll talk about that game. Some real cool stats about the, what the Rams have been doing going back to last season and into week one, what Jared golf has been doing in that time. Drew Brees on the road, Aaron Rogers against the Vikings,
Starting point is 00:02:14 all that, but let's get to this game here. Plus we have, by the way, the start of meter and beat the waiver wire. And Jamie, do you know what this is? Of course. Okay. Dave didn't know.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You don't know Friday the 13th when Jason didn't remember that. Yeah, that's the Jason thing. I was going to intro the show with the Friday the 13th theme, but it's not good. All right, so Tampa Bay gets an injury to Devin White. He left in the first quarter with a knee sprain, and they lost a cornerback, Jamel Dean, as well. And yet they're still defending pretty well this year.
Starting point is 00:02:47 They held the Panthers to 14 points. Who are you most worried about? There are some candidates here. Cam Newton and O.J. Howard probably headline the list. But who are you most concerned about after two games from these two teams? Well, I mean, those would be the two. Yeah. I'm real concerned about O.J. Howard
Starting point is 00:03:03 because you spent more on draft day to get him than you did Cam Newton, or at least you should have. And not only did he not have a catch, he had two penalties. His alone target was wiped out by an offensive pass interference call that he had. He only ran 20 routes according to pro football focus. They're using them more as a blocker than they are as a receiver. It's a, he he's losing to Chris Godwin on those short and mid range targets. football focus. They're using him more as a blocker than they are as a receiver. He's losing to Chris Godwin on those
Starting point is 00:03:28 short and mid-range targets. There's a potential bounce-back opportunity next week against the Giants because they struggle against tight ends. We'll see. If he struggles in that game, then it's really bad news. Yeah, I think if you're worried about Mike Evans, I said it on Wednesday and I said it on Thursday. It wouldn't
Starting point is 00:03:43 be surprising if he had a disappointing game. And Dave had him pretty low, right? Yeah, but you kept saying Garrett Bradbury, though. I did. It's James Bradbury. Sorry about that. I had the wrong Bradbury. But he does a good job.
Starting point is 00:03:56 He should have scored a touchdown. Yeah. He should have scored a touchdown. James missed it. Yeah, that big throw in the first quarter. No, the corner out in the end zone where he just completely missed him. Yes. Evans was wide open.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Jeez, man. So he could have had two. Yes. Jameis missed so many throws. God. He also had an unfortunate situation where Prashad Perryman couldn't catch the ball which went right through his hands. Yep.
Starting point is 00:04:20 That was probably his best throw of the night. That should have been a touchdown in the back of the end zone. But neither court. A touchdown might have been his best throw of the night. A touchdown. been a touchdown in the back of the end zone. A guy with a touchdown might have been his best throw of the night. A guy with a touchdown, anybody could have made that throw. All right, who cares? Both quarterbacks struggle a little bit.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Let's talk about Cam Newton here. By the way, drop or hold O.J. Howard? Hold. Okay, so now let's talk about Cam Newton. You know, I actually have faith in him to come around as a passer. He's got this, you know, offseason arm issue and surgery. It took Andrew Luck a little while. You wouldn't see it statistically, but it took Luck a little while to kind of get his arm going.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Because remember, didn't they take him out for a Hail Mary early in the season for Percet? Right. So you can maybe expect some rust. But the fact that he has negative five rushing yards in two games is terrifying to me. Wait a minute, wasn't it Cam who got pulled for the Hail Mary? No, it was Luck. I think it was Luck.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I'm pretty sure Cam was pulled for a Hail Mary too. Maybe I'm just misremembering on that. Well, you know, Luck wasn't really getting the ball downfield early in the season. Cam, at least, you could see he still got a rifle for an arm. He threw the ball downfield a little bit more. But I'm mostly concerned about the rushing yards and the fact that they're not using him to run the ball in short yardage.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Well, I mean, the most telling thing was the last play of the game. He had to get a half yard for first down, and they didn't do it. And that happened several times throughout the game. So where are you guys on Cam Newton right now, who started in 65% of leagues and threw for 333 yards on 51 attempts, but no touchdowns? It's going to be another interesting game next week
Starting point is 00:05:52 because he gets to play Arizona. And if Lamar Jackson does what I expect him to do, then it's going to be two games in a row where that defense looks bad. So 10 days to prepare. It's just a matter of what's available to you on waivers. I mean, if you can find somebody that you feel comfortable with, and we'll
Starting point is 00:06:06 see what happens coming out of week two, but it's going to range the gamut from Josh Allen, who I think is going to have the opportunity to play well, Derek Carr, Matthew Stafford. There's going to be some guys that you could say I feel more comfortable with over Cam,
Starting point is 00:06:22 but it's also a matter of do you want to carry two quarterbacks because the minute you drop Cam, somebody's going to pick them up. Cause he's going to start to get hot. This happened two years ago. You know, he got off to a miserable start and then he started to get hot. Like he tends to do. I think the time off will help him, you know, sort of change a few things, you know, and, and, you know, I hope it's the shake the rust off from the injury. It really depends on what's on the waiver wire. If, if there. If you look at your waiver wire and there are five quarterbacks that you're okay using as a replacement for Cam, don't pick one up. But if there's only one or two, then maybe you should just make the room just in case Cam has another bad game in week three. But again, we're not dropping.
Starting point is 00:06:59 We're holding. No, someone will pick him up in a heartbeat. Ten-team league, it's a little bit easier. Yeah, but I mean, I'm still hoping there's enormous upside, but there's not enormous upside if he doesn't run the football. And he somewhat stopped running the ball late last season. I'm looking at his game log now. He had more than 33 rushing yards once in his last seven games.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Well, that was after the shoulder injury, right? Yeah. From the Pittsburgh game? Exactly. Pittsburgh, he played six Yeah. From the Pittsburgh game? Exactly. Pittsburgh, he played six games beginning with that Pittsburgh game. He had 10, 2, 63, 33, 23, and 15 rushing guards with zero rushing touchdowns. I didn't really buy it. I thought he was going to run the ball a lot this year.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I thought he was going to be Cam Newton. That's not there. He still might. This is typically when you're going to get the quote of a lion's going to be a lion. He's going to say something that's going to lend itself to you thinking that he's going to get back to doing what he does when things are going wrong. Right. Optimistic. Okay, so you see some buy lows in this situation like Evans and Cam, I guess, would headline it? Evans for sure. Evans, yes.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I mean, that's an easy one. How about Peyton Barber, 23 carries, 82 yards and a touchdown, one catch, and Greg Olson, 51%. I'm so annoyed that I had to drop Greg Olson. Six catches, 100. I dropped him in one league because it's a 12-team league
Starting point is 00:08:22 and waivers didn't run the first week. I don't remember what the circumstances were, but TJ Hawkinson was available, and I had Hunter Henry. So I picked up Greg Olson first, and then I was like, okay, well, I got to make a transaction to try and get Hawkinson if I can. And so I dropped Olson before the game, had no tight end, and missed Hawkinson on waiver. So it was a disaster all the way around. Yeah, it's a shame. I kind of liked the idea that Greg Olson bounced back this year with him being healthier. You had him in a couple of leagues. I had him.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Did you say me or you? You. Yeah, no, I had him. I had to drop him because I said yesterday I couldn't make a transaction on Thursday. I had to play it safe in case he didn't play, so I had to drop him for Jordan's sake. He makes somebody else very happy. I actually had to start safe in case he didn't play, so I had to drop him for Jordan. He makes somebody else very happy. I actually had to start him in our Dynasty League, Adam, the team that we share. You should be happy about this.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I started him as a flex. Oh, very nice. So six catches, 110 targets. I lost Tevin Coleman and Tyreek Hill. 110 yards on nine targets. That's two straight games with nine targets, but between Olsen and Barber, are you buying either guy as a trustworthy player going forward?
Starting point is 00:09:27 Olsen, for sure. And as long as he's healthy, he's going to be a starter for your squad. Barber just had the hot hand, I guess. And that's the only reason why he had so much work. Crushed the other two running backs in terms of snaps played. I think it was 42 or 46 snaps that he had in the game. He had a ton. Ronald Jones only had 8, 16 for Dario Gumbawale.
Starting point is 00:09:52 So coaching staff had no problem leaning on Peyton Barber. I don't know if it's going to be that way every single week, but it was for this week against Carolina. And that run defense now, think about it. Malcolm Brown had two short yardage touchdowns Peyton Barber that wasn't a short yardage score but they're starting to give up some numbers a little bit I mean it was just the short yardage touchdowns Todd Gurley went for 97 yards rushing yeah I don't know if you heard what Aikman said though he said that they probably got they got
Starting point is 00:10:17 tired against the he said that the Panthers have a good run defense in his opinion they got tired in the fourth quarter against the Rams and that's when Gurley did most of his damage. And to be fair, they held Peyton Barber to 3.6 yards per carry. This was Peyton Barber, quote, looking good. But if you're talking about, I mean, look, the Rams wearing him down, that's fine. If this is what's going to happen against a mediocre rushing attack, where they're going to be in close games,
Starting point is 00:10:42 they're not going to be the type of team that blows teams out. So they're going to be in close games. They're not going to be the type of team that blows teams out. So they're going to get pushed on and run on and back and forth, slow drives type of things. So it's not good. And this is a Rams team, week one, filling themselves out. I think if this was midseason, they may have done more damage. And a Tampa Bay team that traditionally, at least the last few seasons, has not been able to run the ball successfully.
Starting point is 00:11:05 They didn't run the ball successfully. They were terrible. They averaged 3.2 yards per carry. But that's the point, though, is that they're able to sort of wear on you a little bit. What's going to happen when they face a good rushing team? Well, they've got to get their offense going, obviously. I mean, they were terrible on third down. All right, final question here.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Only 18% of people started Curtis Samuel. It was nice to see him come alive. But Jameis Winston, 16 for 25, 208 yards and a touchdown. Some good throws, some terrible throws. 14 fantasy points after scoring eight fantasy points. He gets the Giants next week. Drop or hold Jameis Winston? It's the same as Cam.
Starting point is 00:11:43 If you find somebody on waivers that you think is better and you feel more comfortable with, if the Giants struggle against Josh Allen, then I think it's the same type of thing. You can buy into Jameis. I'll go back to the conversation I had with Carson Palmer.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I thought about it last night. He said it's going to take some time for him to learn the system. And I think the thing that, the biggest takeaway that I had from this was he had a lot of times where he was in the pocket.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Coverage was good on on the panther side of things and he held the ball way too long but instead of trying to force the ball he took sack and that's the maturation process of not making the mistake because this could have easily be 208 one and two or 208 one and three like we saw last week against San Francisco where he's trying to make something happen. And that's typically been Jameis's fault or, or, or downfall. It's also what,
Starting point is 00:12:30 you know, on the flip side of that, I thought would end up happening more often than not just in Bruce Arians, no risk, no biscuit type of scenario. But this is a, this was,
Starting point is 00:12:38 I think a step in the right direction that he didn't, you know, make a lot of mistakes from the standpoint of giving the other team the ball. Okay. All right. That's Tampa Bay 20, Carolina 14. Some interesting stats we'll talk about today. Aaron Rodgers has scored more than 24 fantasy points
Starting point is 00:12:52 and six points per passing touchdown leagues only once in the last five seasons against Minnesota. 24 is not bad, but that's not great either, and only once has he eclipsed that in the last five seasons against Minnesota. Didn't play every game in that stretch. In their last 10 games, the Rams have allowed more than 19 fantasy points to two quarterbacks out of 10. They were Nick Mullins in Week 17 and Dak Prescott,
Starting point is 00:13:16 who had 24 fantasy points with a rushing touchdown. They might be coming. I was thinking about how we talk about, just like you said, it takes teams time to adjust to a new offensive coordinator. It's really since their bye last year that the Rams have been a much better defensive team. So maybe it took them, whatever it was, nine weeks or so to adjust to Wade Phillips. And they've been very good, a lot better defensively since then. But Jared Goff has thrown 229 or fewer passing yards.
Starting point is 00:13:45 He's thrown for 229 or fewer yards in seven of his last nine games. All but one of them without Cooper Cup. How about this one? Eight of the last 10 quarterbacks to face the Eagles have thrown for 297 or more yards, including Eli Manning, Dak Prescott, Trubisky, and Case Keenum last week. So we'll see where you guys have Matt Ryan ranked.
Starting point is 00:14:07 This is a fun one. John Brown is the highest-ranked wide receiver named Brown this week. There's Antonio. There's Marquise. There's AJ. John Brown's better than all of them. And this week, right? Well, we'll see if Antonio Brown plays.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Well, who would you rank higher if Antonio Brown plays? If he plays, I'd rank Antonio Brown higher. Yeah. Oh, right? Well, we'll see if Antonio Brown plays. Who would you rank higher if Antonio Brown plays? If he plays, I'd rank Antonio Brown higher. Oh, really? Okay. Because I think right now you have John ahead. I don't know what's going to happen with Antonio Brown. We'll find out today, hopefully. Right now, yes, John Brown is ranked higher. And then Trevor Simeon is going to start
Starting point is 00:14:42 for the Jets this week. He basically produced two top 20 wide receivers in 2016. That's wild. If you played for the Broncos at any point in the last 10 years, Adam Gase will sign you. Where's Julius Thomas? He decides to still play in the NFL. I'm sure that Adam Gase would sign him.
Starting point is 00:15:01 He's not the Chris Herndon replacement. Hopefully he hasn't been kissing anybody lately. Tweet of the day. Matthew Berry asked there it is on the screen. You can watch our full episodes by the way. YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. He asked Jamie who do you like more? At Dave
Starting point is 00:15:17 Richard or at Adam Azer? It was a little surprise. I did a send me your questions. This was one of the ones that I got. So I appreciate Matthew reaching out. And I
Starting point is 00:15:33 told him my answer was, that's like trying to pick which of my kids are the favorites. So I'll just take Keith Cummings. Yeah, I voted for Dave by the way. Today's sponsors are FanDuel and SeatGeek. Working working on getting that fanduel contest up i'm sorry it doesn't look like i'll have it in week two i i'm aiming for week three where we can have a fanduel contest but if you go to fanduel.com slash fft you can sign up and get some bonuses
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Starting point is 00:17:10 For free assistance, call the Connex Ontario helpline at 1-866-531-2600. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. News and notes. The NFL is going to meet with Antonio Brown's accuser next week. Do you guys have anything to say about this
Starting point is 00:17:28 or just wait and see? Wait and see. Yep. Joe Mixon did not practice. Is he going to be a Sunday decision? We'll find out if he practices on Friday. I mean, it's looking more and more likely like it's going to be Giovanni Bernard
Starting point is 00:17:42 getting the nod. So, you know, we'll see. If Heath were here, he'd say Giovanni Bernard, right? Bernard, yes. Bernard. And Sam Dardle has mono. So they've got Cleveland this week. The Browns DST is 68% owned. They're top 10 for everybody.
Starting point is 00:18:04 They're top five for, I think, Jamie and Heath. If you need a DST, take a look and see if the Browns are out there. Le'Veon Bell is a shoulder issue. Do we think he's going to play? Yes. He went out on Twitter and said that he's fine. You just wonder, though, one shot to the shoulder, how's he going to hold up? I mean, you've got to start him
Starting point is 00:18:20 clearly, but it's not... This is the interesting thing that I think that we're going to find out about the contract is playing through injury when you need to get your money and then playing through injury after you got your money we see it with athletes all the time hopefully this is one of those situations where he's fine should you go and get ty montgomery right now if you have an open roster spot i looked in a bunch of my leagues to see if i could find a way to get him in the leagues where he was available. I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:18:46 But it's not a bad move if you do have an open roster spot. Yep, just in case. I was going to ask that, Dave. Nice. Beach to it. Nice. In your face. It doesn't look good for Mike Williams this week, right?
Starting point is 00:19:00 No. According to Anthony Lynn, he was concerned. So I heard that and I was like probably not so bad news for philip rivers without hunter henry and potentially mike williams yeah uh i'll just give the stat now i was going to give it when we talked about the game which is the first game we're talking about chargers at lions uh philip rivers in 2016 he did not have keenan allen and he was still a top 10 quarterback he threw for 4 yards, 33 touchdowns, and 21 interceptions. He had Tyrell.
Starting point is 00:19:27 He had Tyrell, Dontrell Inman, Travis Benjamin, Hunter Henry, Antonio Gates. At least he's got Keenan Allen now. He's got Keenan Allen. He's got Inman. He's got Benjamin. Yeah. He's a very good quarterback, but he doesn't have great pass protection, and that could be a problem.
Starting point is 00:19:44 All right. Yeah. He's somebody you want to avoid this week if you can. He's got Eckler. He's got Eckler. Never mind. He'll be fine. He's got Austin Eckler. The world is good again. Marquise Brown is a hip issue. He should play through it, but he's a little dinged up. He's practicing. Got a question of trade
Starting point is 00:19:59 of John Brown for Marquise Brown. I would rather have John Brown moving forward. Me too. For this situation. The injury scenario of Marquise Brown. I would rather have John Brown moving forward. Me too. For this situation. The injury scenario of Marquise Brown. John boy. Sterling Shepard did not practice on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I think Cody Latimer left practice with an injury. It's ugly. It's Evan Ingram and nobody else. Bill's DST is widely owned. They're like 86% owned. Darius Geist out six to eight weeks. Adrian Peterson's going to start. He's 86 widely owned. They're like 86% owned. Darius Geist out six to eight weeks. Adrian Peterson's going to start. He's 86% owned, and he was
Starting point is 00:20:27 solid in the beginning of the season last year. The Redskins are optimistic about Jordan Reed against Dallas. Juju Smith-Schuster was limited in practice. It's not a certainty that he plays, but he's probably going to play. McCole Hardman and DeAnthony Thomas are both going to have a role, according to The Athletic.
Starting point is 00:20:44 More on Hardman in just a moment. Dallas is going to be mindful of Ezekiel Elliott's, you know, lack of practice time this summer. When you saw that, you know, what did that mean to you? Do you think he gets a full workload? He got, I think, 13 carries in week one against the Giants. Do you think Zeke gets, you know, upwards of 18 or more carries this week? I would say 18 touches.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I would be surprised if it was more than that. I would be surprised if it was as little as it was last week. And Oakland safety Jonathan Abrams is out for the season as they get ready for Kansas City. Do you expect the following two players who are on the injury report, not a huge injury report this week, Tyler Lockett at Pittsburgh? He practiced on Thursday, so he is trending in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:21:23 He should be fine. Jimmy Graham against Minnesota. Yep. He'll play. All right. Couple of omissions from yesterday. DeAndre Hopkins in DFS. Jalen Ramsey should shadow him in six games.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Well, let's look at his last five games against Jacksonville. He has scored in PPR 16, 18, 18, 14, and 26 fantasy points. So rarely huge games, and he's the most expensive wide receiver. Would you avoid DeAndre Hopkins, at least he's a fan duel. Would you avoid Hopkins in DFS this week? Yes. Just based on the price, not the matchup. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Right. That's why you'll start him in your seasonal, in your redraft leagues. Yeah. Seasonal, redraft, whatever you want to call them. I don't think I asked about McCall Hardman. I know we talked about him a lot with Ben on Wednesday. I don't know if I said, would you think about starting him?
Starting point is 00:22:19 Somebody said I left him out, so here he is. Deeper leagues if you're stuck. I mean, there are a lot of better starting options in terms of the guys that we're able to pick up. John Ross is better. I think you can make a strong case Terry McLaurin is better. Marquise Brown is better. But he is one of the better stash
Starting point is 00:22:36 candidates that you can have just to see what happens. You alluded to it, Adam, that they're going to split time with the Anthony Thomas and Hardman. Hardman was the one that played basically every snap for Tyreek Hill when he left the game with the collarbone injury. We've seen this from the Chiefs time and time again that, you know, they kind of, you know, consolidate their targets as opposed to necessarily, you know, opening up to allow other guys some plays. But he's going to touch the ball. He only had one target in the
Starting point is 00:23:03 game last week. That was a surprise for as much as he was on the field. So it's one of those things where you take a chance on the best quarterback playing in a game that's not exactly the best defense. So if you are stuck, it's more of a dart throw in a three-receiver league. But he's also a good daily option too. Yep, he's in my daily lineup. Cool. DraftKings.
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Starting point is 00:24:26 I don't have that much for Pete the Waiver Wire. The DSTs I'm looking at, Tennessee at Jacksonville on Thursday, they're 39% owned. Green Bay against Denver. Dallas against Miami. I mean, that would be the best. They're 78% owned. But if you can stash Dallas' DST, that'd be a no.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I'm surprised they're that low. They should be higher for sure. And Tennessee, you can get by Dallas's DST, that'd be a note. I'm surprised they're at that low. They were drafted. They should be higher for sure. And Tennessee, you can get by with them this week against Indianapolis too. So if you've got a DST that you don't like, pivot to the Titans and you're good for at least the next two weeks. How about Jacoby Brissett against Atlanta and Josh Allen against Cincinnati are the two quarterbacks I looked at. I think we'd prefer Allen, right? Yeah, I mean, I've been saying it
Starting point is 00:25:05 for him the start of the season, you know, the first three weeks for him, we'll see how the Cincinnati defense does. This was the, that was the one that, you know, you sort of say, okay, let's see how he does against that one. But, um, the Jets defense, you know, I thought he'd have a good game. He didn't play as well, had too many turnovers, um, this week for sure. He's a borderline starter and then we'll see how he does coming out of this game. Brissette is a tremendous bi-week quarterback. I really liked how he played last week against the Chargers. Didn't have amazing numbers, but he could have had three touchdowns. You know about Ebron kind of sort of dropping that one. So once you get to week seven, if you've got a QB that's on by around then and some names in week seven that are on by Cam Newton, Baker Mayfield,
Starting point is 00:25:43 Roethlisberger, Jberger jamis i think he's one that you'll turn to at that point you can wait to pick him up you don't need to do it now but he's going to be pretty he's going to be usable he'll have a role cam ben baker mayfield jamis winston all on by that week uh all could be dropped know, if you listen to fantasy owners, they are panicking about at least two of those guys. But Ben's our star of the week this week, so big week for him. Yeah, I don't know if there are any other running backs that you guys want to stash
Starting point is 00:26:13 right now who could emerge as starters that are available in leagues. Any wide receivers? I mean, for the most part with the running backs, it's kind of the handcuff guys. You know, Alexander Madison, Ido Smith, you know, guys that... Ty Montgomery. Ty Montgomery is a good one.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You know, just in case something happens to the guys in front of them that are injury prone, you know, hopefully nothing happens to Dalvin Cook or Devontae Freeman. But, you know, we've seen those guys suffer injuries before. Okay. And, yeah, I don't know if there are wide receivers that... I mean, I think John Ross probably... Hardman, we just mentioned. Hardman, yeah, for sure. Hard yeah, I don't know if there are wide receivers that, I mean, I think John Ross, Hardman,
Starting point is 00:26:46 we just mentioned. Yeah, for sure. Hardman for sure. That would be my favorite one. Okay. I think if people, if people drop Jameson Crowder in this offense,
Starting point is 00:26:55 in his role, he could still be very good. Even if it's Simeon. Now they do have their bi-week coming up in two weeks. So, you know, I don't know if there's a huge priority there, just given the fact that you may be a little bit intrepidation to start him against Cleveland with Simeon in the
Starting point is 00:27:09 first game. But, you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't give up on him. And then, you know, for the Hunter Henry owner that does have an open roster spot, pick up a tight end that you can use now. But also you might want to speculate on Chris Herndon just in case that's smart. He has the chance to, you know, play at the level That we saw in the preseason That we were talking about before the suspension He is not going to be able to play until week 6 So you have to carry him for a few weeks But it proved to be beneficial
Starting point is 00:27:33 I'm going to look up his ownership percentage Oh it's under 20% I can tell you right now Alright Start-o-meter These are the games we're going to be doing later in the show John Brown at the Giants 8 7 These are the games we're going to be doing later in the show. John Brown at the Giants. Eight.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Seven. Six, five, four, three, two. Okay, John Brown's a start. Devin Singletary at the Giants. Eight. Six and a half. Who's a better start, John Brown or Singletary? I'll take Singletary.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I'll take Brown. Brown is safer, but I think this is the breakout game for Singletary. I hope it is. And one's coming, whether it's this week or two weeks from now. He's too good. They can't just keep handing the ball off to Frank Gore. Now, we said this last year about the Dolphins and Frank Gore and Kenyon Drake, and it never really happened. Different coaching staff, and I would argue a better running back here
Starting point is 00:28:22 in Singletary compared to Drake. Josh Allen at the Giants. Six. Five and a half. Allen or Aaron Rodgers? Rodgers. Oh, it's close. Probably still Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I don't know why, though. Dak Prescott at Washington. Ten. Nine. Michael Gallcott at Washington. Ten. Nine. Michael Gallup at Washington. Seven. Seven. John Brown or Michael Gallup?
Starting point is 00:28:52 I think it's John Brown. Brown slightly. Yep. Adrian Peterson against Dallas. What's the format? Non-PPR. I will not start him in PPR. He's like a five. Non-PPR. I will not start him in PPR. He's like a five.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Non-PPR, five. PPR, two. Chris Thompson in half PPR. Six. Full PPR. Eight. Six. A Washington tight end.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Four. Six. Would you rather start Chris Thompson or Devin Singletary in PPR? Four. Six. Would you rather start Chris Thompson or Devin Singletary in PPR? Singletary. No, I'm sorry. Thompson. Would you rather start Thompson or Singletary in half PPR?
Starting point is 00:29:37 Singletary. Okay. Terry McLaurin against the Cowboys? Three. Five. Jarvis Landry at the Cowboys. Three. Five. Jarvis Landry at the Jets. Three. Six in PPR.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Baker Mayfield. Five and a half. Six. Jets wide receivers. Crowder in PPR is like a six and a half. Robbie in any format is like a 6.5 Robbie in any format is like a 3.5 Crowder non-PPR of like 4 Why so low on Baker Mayfield? Why is he outside your top 12?
Starting point is 00:30:17 I just didn't like all the mistakes that he made last week It seems like a really good matchup It seems like a good bounce back spot I almost want to see him have one of those big games last week and it seems like a really good matchup it seems like a good bounce back spot but just really want to i almost want to see him have one of those big games like we saw last year before i go all in on him again prescott much easier start at this point breeze on the road i know the track record isn't great i'd still feel more comfortable with him okay i think the thing with baker that will help him a lot is if CJ Mosley and
Starting point is 00:30:46 Quinn and Williams are both out. Yeah. That's one thing that we talked about on CBS sports HQ yesterday is that as Adam Gase, the clip that I heard was rattling off the numbers of the players who are missing and not practicing. You know, he said 14 is out with Mono and 26 has got a shoulder.
Starting point is 00:31:02 He's not going to practice. You know, I was waiting to hear what he was going to say about Mosley and Williams. Cause that's aside from, aside from Le'Veon, because clearly Darnold's not a huge fantasy option, you know, clearly impacts the receiving core.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But I was more, I was curious as much about those guys as I was about Williams and Mosley for the Browns offensive players. And yeah, seriously, I think it's going to be huge for Chubb. I think things are setting up for Chubb to have a huge week. Mosley didn't practice, Williams didn't practice, but they have two more practices to go before we know their game status. From what I was reading this morning, they are optimistic about those guys,
Starting point is 00:31:39 Mosley and Quinton Williams. And when Mosley got hurt last week, it just, I've said this enough times, it changed the entire game. They basically lost the game because of that. And that's when Devin Singletary got involved. All right, enough of that. We know Browns Jets is not going to be the Bonanza. I am down to two games right now.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Who's on the table? The Saints and the Texans. The Saints and Texans. Saints and Texans are gone for the next three more games. Your self-imposed four-week ban. It's either going to be AFC West Showdown or Sunday Night Football. This week's bonanza is the Chiefs Raiders. Chiefs Raiders.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Interesting that you're, you know, it's the survival pool style that you're going with. Yeah, I know. You can't use the Chiefs now for another four weeks. Yeah, I know. I know. Believe me. I know. It's a good call, though.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I think Derek Carr's going to have a monster performance. Yeah, Jacobs and Tyra. I would have gone with the Sunday night game. Tyra Williams is an absolute must in DFS. I don't like his price is too low. I'm excited. Oh, Sammy Watkins. Yeah, but he's still like a top eight receiver in pricing.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Doesn't matter. Does not matter. Well, I mean, I don't know if he's the eighth best. Yes. Yes. I think he's in my DFS lineup. So that's that's the bonanza. All right, let's go to the games. Chargers at Lions. An injury note, something I did not realize in week one.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Denzel Perryman. He is the most important, probably the most important player for the run defense for the Chargers. He played one snap and it was on special teams. So they are easing him back. He is not fully healthy yet. So we'll see what that means for Kerryon Johnson. I like it for him.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah, I mean, it's good for him. But I don't know how many snaps he's going to play. I assume it will be more than last week. Not Kerryon. Denzel Perryman we're talking about. Phillip Rivers, 19th for Jamie and Heath, 14th for Dave. Try to get away from him. It's kind of self-explanatory so how about austin eckler is he just he's a must start in ppr in non ppr is he also a must start austin eckler yes they're running out of guys to give philip rivers
Starting point is 00:33:41 to use so i would imagine the run game or the running backs used both in the run game and the pass game are going to get more work. That includes Eckler. He's going to have to hold up, but the numbers last week should make you feel real good about starting them. How does Justin Jackson compare to other number two running backs that might get work like Malcolm Brown,
Starting point is 00:34:02 Raheem Mostert, guys like that? I'd put Mostert ahead of him. Yeah, I'd still take Jackson. Jackson, I think he might get up to 10 touches, and I think he's got to score in order to make you feel good about having him on your team. Mostert could be better, but I want to see what they do with Jeff Wilson
Starting point is 00:34:17 because I know they like him. Okay. And I mentioned this stat last week, but Detroit's defense allowed 57 fewer rushing yards per game after trading for Snacks Harris and then before him. And they also added Mike Daniels. And they were okay against David Johnson, who's on the ground. 18 carries for 82 yards, but they did give up six for 55 in a touchdown receiving against Johnson. It's also in five periods.
Starting point is 00:34:40 It's also what? They played overtime. Oh, yes. Yes, they did. Full overtime. All right. So then Keenan Allen. Are you nervous at all about Keenan Allen with Darius Slay?
Starting point is 00:34:54 Not this week without the other guys there. I mean, they'll find ways to get him open. You're starting him. I agree. And I don't know if Slay goes into the slot very often. I think he just stays on the outside. And Keenan Allen, we know that he plays in the slot a decent amount. Okay. How about if Mike Williams plays? Would you start him? And where would you move Phillip Rivers in your rankings? Because like I said, he's outside the top 12 right now, and he's way outside for Jamie and Heath.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I would probably put him a little below where Dave has him. So still no higher than 15. And I might move him ahead of Aaron Rodgers and that's it. For the people in 16. I give you an example. I had a league where I had Rodgers and Rivers. And I played Rivers last week over Rodgers. I dropped Rivers to play Derek Carr. So if Derek Carr is available, I'd much prefer Derek Carr over Phil Rivers.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Even if Mike Williams plays? Even if Mike Williams plays. For the people that are in 16 team leagues or DFS want to fly, who's the guy on the chargers you're looking at? Benjamin for the big play.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Inman has the safer floor, but I don't even know if that floor can give you the three times value that you want. Let me look up his price quickly. Dontrell Inman is at $3,000, so the cheapest price. If he gets you four for $50, he's good on DraftKings.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I'm not sure he can get there. Matthew Stafford, 58% owned, 33 fantasy points at Arizona in week one. Fell in love with Danny Amendola. We don't really have much of a sample size. We don't know what to expect from the Chargers pass defense without Derwin James, but it wasn't great.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Great last week, Jacoby Brissett completed 21-27 for 190 yards and two touchdowns. How do you feel about Stafford? Would you start Stafford over Rivers? Let's start with that. Yes. I believe I have Rivers over Stafford as of now. I would not fault you for going the other way on that. I just don't know what to make of the Lions' run game and how effective it'll be. Because last week it wasn't effective at all, and Stafford ended up shouldering the load, and he looked great. I like him as a streamer a lot. So if you're not comfortable with Rivers and the way that his matchup is looking, you want to go with Stafford, I think that's not a bad thing to do. Stafford or Carr?
Starting point is 00:37:09 I have Stafford higher. Oh, that's not close. Okay. Stafford or Drew Brees? Brees. Brees. Stafford or Rodgers? Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I currently have Rodgers higher. All right. Stafford or Josh Allen? Stafford. Allen. All right. Jamie has him back to back. Allen All right. Stafford or Josh Allen? Stafford. Allen. All right. Jamie hasn't back to back. Allen 16, Stafford 17. Carry on. And Dave has also back to back.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I haven't backed back. Yeah, about that. But flip flop him. Carry on Johnson, guys. How much confidence do you have in carry on this week? Got to play him. You didn't draft him to sit him. You saw Marlon Mack romp on this defense
Starting point is 00:37:47 it's just a matter of whether or not he can bounce back after a really disappointing game last week gotta take that chance on him he's a number two running back for me a little bit lower end of that running two spectrum but still somebody that i think you got to go with. Yeah, agreed. I'll take Eckler easy. Just in this same game, Eckler easy. A couple other running backs I would still start to have him for net. Obviously the guys that had big games in week one, Mack, Jacobs, Henry. Go with them. If Mixon's out
Starting point is 00:38:17 and Geo is the guy, I'll take Geo ahead of him as well. How about Breida or Carrion? I've got Carrion higher. Who's a better flex? Kenny Galladay or Carrion Johnson? Might be Galladay in PPR. I'm nervous about Galladay. I think you're going to see Casey Hayward on him. That's going to be tough for him.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And there's just so many other mouths to feed now if they do opt to pass. Galladay doesn't have to get a ton. and there's just so many other mouths to feed now if they do opt to pass so how do you feel about the wide receivers in general you know Galladay, Jones, Amendola, how do you feel about them um I think they're Galladay's a low end starter
Starting point is 00:38:58 I prefer him as a number three receiver this week Jones is kind of hard to trust just given how many targets went in other directions Amendola's better in PPR than non-PPR and Hawkinson I think is the best of the bunch. Hawkinson is a top five tight end. Alright. Right up the flagpole.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Okay. I'm a little... I don't know. Obviously I'm starting Hawkinson but you might have two good options here and it's a lot to ask but you might have two good options here. It's a lot to ask for him to have two good games in a row. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Agreed. I think if you're the Hawkinson owner with a second guy, unless that second guy right now is O.J. Howard, but if you're the Ingram Hawkinson owner, the Kelsey Ertz Hawkinson owner, go to the Hunter Henry owner right now and see what you can try and flip for him. I made an offer. I have Kelsey and Hawkinson as a keeper league, where I'm going to keep Hawkinson next year for a 14th round pick. And I have Kelsey who is in the last year of me keeping him.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I offered the Dalvin cook owner who lost Hunter Henry, Kelsey for cook. And so I haven't heard back yet. We'll see if that's a trade they're willing to make, but you know, it's circumstantial, you know, depending on what you want to do.
Starting point is 00:40:04 But I think you can flip Hawkinson because that may be his best game. Wouldn't be surprised. You know, it was awesome. If you can get something great from the Hunter Henry or any owner that's, you know, searching for a tight end, you may be able to get something very good in return. The worst carry on Johnson does, the much better TJ Hawkinson will be. He's going to be they'll flip a switch and he and amandola will start getting plenty of targets each week if carry on breaks down stinks dj anderson gets more work whatever the case may be if this run game can't get going for the lions you're going to see hogginson really explode all right
Starting point is 00:40:37 dave and jamie are going to tell you to sit both dsts heath does have the chargers as his number seven dst uh they had just two sacks in week one, but they were facing, obviously, a great offensive line. Yeah, I mean, you drafted. Hawkinson's only 3,000 on DraftKings. What? Okay. That's it.
Starting point is 00:40:57 We'll do that then. It's worth signing up for DraftKings and starting a lineup just to have Hawkinson. If he gets you four for 50 you're you're succeeding also returning value also sign up for fanduel at fanduel.com slash fft you know um all right we'll take another break here on fanduel i'll look it up i don't know we'll take it cheap too we'll take another break here on fantasy football today our last break of the show minnesota and green bay when we come back a lot to talk about in this game we'll be right back
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Starting point is 00:42:05 Stat of the game you're probably going to ignore. Number one, Kyle Rudolph has scored 11 or more fantasy points in PPR in four of his last six games against Green Bay. Are you ignoring it? Yes. Yeah. Stat of the game that you will probably ignore. Number two, Devontae Adams has had less than 70 receiving yards
Starting point is 00:42:21 against Minnesota in three straight games. But he has scored in all three games. Are you ignoring the low yardage totals? I guess. Yes. All right. Start Adam. Sit Rudolph.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Yes. Yes. Okay. Stat of the game you might not ignore. Aaron Rodgers has scored more than 24 fantasy points. I said this earlier. In six point per passing-passing touchdown leagues against the Vikings
Starting point is 00:42:46 once in the last five seasons. So, starter Sid, Aaron Rodgers. I would try and get away from him. Derek Carr over Aaron Rodgers. Wow. I think Aaron Rodgers can still find a way to get to 20 fantasy points. Let me just see.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Carr could blow that out of the water. It's definitely possible, but I think I'd just still go with Rodgers over Carr. So, by the way, 24 fantasy points is what I mentioned. He hasn't had more than that only once in five seasons. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. That would have been 12th
Starting point is 00:43:19 last week in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues. That's what Drew Brees... I mean, look, Matt Ryan got to 22 against them in garbage time. Yeah. I just think it's going to be a low scoring game with the Packers defense playing the way that. And Minnesota, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:32 so 2017, they gave up 11.6 points per game at home, 19.4 on the road, 2018, 19.6 at home, 23 on the road. The road games were a little more difficult than their home games, but you know, teams are better at home. There's no were a little more difficult than their home games, but you know,
Starting point is 00:43:45 teams are better at home. There's no surprise there. All right. So Aaron Jones, starter said, Aaron Jones, guys, 13 carries,
Starting point is 00:43:51 39 yards, one target last week. What do you do this week with him? I'd send him if he can, but I'd also buy low if he can too. I mean, they're going to be much better days ahead. It's just tough,
Starting point is 00:44:01 tough schedule. We talked about it. You know, first two games are going to be really tough for him. Usage wasn't great, but he also got banged up in the game and left for a couple drives.
Starting point is 00:44:08 I think that helped Jamal Williams' snap count. So I would think that if you can get Aaron Jones cheap right now, try and do so. Carry on Johnson or Aaron Jones?
Starting point is 00:44:17 Carry on. Carry on. Matt Breida or Aaron Jones? Close. I'd rather take Breida. Okay. Devontae Adams is a start. Are we avoiding the other wide receivers for the Green Bay?
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah, I think so. I mean, look, you may get another big play from Valdez-Gantling, but he's going to need to score or get two of those. And I would probably look to go a different direction. I'm very interested to see what Jimmy Graham can do this week. He is 67% owned. He had three catches, 30 yards, and a touchdown on six targets at Chicago. In his two games against Minnesota last year,
Starting point is 00:44:55 he had 95 yards at home and only 34 on the road. And I feel like tight ends might be a weakness for Minnesota. When they faced good ones last year, they didn't do great. They gave up a ton of production to Hooper last week. What do you think about Jimmy Graham? Is he a start? Not for me, but if you are, again, the Hunter Henry owner that's fishing, he could have another 3 for 30 in a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:45:23 I think he's best as a top 15 type of tight end. So almost good enough to start. Okay, that's Jimmy Graham. He's better than Kyle Rudolph? Yes. Until you see Kirk Cousins throw the ball more than 10 times, you can't trust Rudolph. The only guys you can hope for are Thiel and Indig.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Bold prediction. Rudolph had 10% of the target there last week. It was great. Bold prediction. He will throw more than 10 passes. In fact, I'm debating Kirk Cousins or Matthew Stafford this week. I think you guys are going to tell me Stafford. Right? I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:58 you can go with Kirk Cousins if you want. What's the over-under pass temps? 20? No, I think he'll be in the 28-ish range. Right. It was like circumstantial what happened last week. I don't think they're purposely trying to keep Kirk Cousins from throwing the football. Oh, I think that they would love to keep Kirk Cousins from throwing the football.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I think they would love to be the Seattle Seahawks and dominate running the ball, play defense, and not have their quarterback have to make plays. Yeah, but Kirk Cousins is actually going to run. Yeah, but that's not realistic. He's going to run for more touchdowns than Russell Wilson. He has one already. He probably already did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah. Stafford is 300 less on FanDuel than Cousins, by the way. Okay. So Cousins is 75% owned. I just, you know, if the Packers defense weren't so improved,
Starting point is 00:46:40 I'd be pretty interested in him in this spot, you know, at least in, in DFS because nobody wants him right now. You can try to get away from Cousins and see what the game plan is. Dalvin Cook's a must-start. Are you at all concerned about Thielen and Diggs? They have
Starting point is 00:46:54 really good history over the last two years. Big, big games against the Packers. More concerned about Diggs and Thielen, but I think they're both startable. Startable or must-start? I don't think Diggs is a must start. I think Diggs is a start because you
Starting point is 00:47:09 drafted him in a range where you want to give it one more week. And we did see one of the Bears receivers have a big game last week. So I think you could see one of the Vikings receivers have a big game. I don't think you're going to get big games from both of them. But the hope would be is that you kind of get I think about the Panther stat line last night,
Starting point is 00:47:26 nine for 89 for more and a five for 91 for Samuel. I think that's realistic for both those guys with one of them potentially scoring. If, if you're going to ask me which one I would say, you know, probably scores. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Like that to me is, is, is what I'm hoping for, for those guys. That sounds like a decent game for Kirk cousins. I mean, let's not forget cam had 330 yards last night. Well, I mean, if
Starting point is 00:47:48 it's 330 and one, I think Stafford would do better. Okay. But I don't think it's going to be 331. Remember, Cam also had the tight end. He's not going to throw for 330. He's not throwing for 330. Because Cam had 50 passes, 51 pass attempts. That's not happening. Which DST
Starting point is 00:48:03 do you prefer? Minnesota. Okay, it's close, though. You guys both have those two defenses around 10 to 12. Yeah, yeah. All right. Okay, cool. Saints at Rams.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I didn't even think about this one as the bonanza. Well, you couldn't. Oh, that's right. You can't even use it. But even if I could uh i don't okay they played twice last year one of them was the bonanza to end all bonanzas the other was a total costanza the first game was 45 35 and the second game was the overtime game it was 26 23 but not a very good fantasy game i i don't know man like i i you know what i'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:48:46 I almost don't want to say it out loud, but I feel like this could be a mid-scoring game. Not low, but like a mid-scoring game. I agree. I could see both teams getting in the 30s. I could see both teams staying in the low to mid-20s. Rams had to shake their rust off game last week. Back home.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Saints on the road short week and their defense did not look good against the Texans they're playing a very similar offense in terms of a high powered scoring team so I could see them having to chase points and it's kind of the only reason I still think Brees is startable because I think he's going to have to throw a little bit in this game
Starting point is 00:49:21 but I think Kamara does what he typically does, he was awesome last week, I think he's going to have to throw a little bit in this game. But I think Kamara does what he typically does. He was awesome last week. I think he's awesome again, plus he scores. Latavius is in play as a flex. It's going to be a matter of who the second option is for the Saints passing him. I think this will actually be a Jared Cook game, where he comes up and plays a little bit better than we saw last week.
Starting point is 00:49:38 So with Thomas and Cook, I think Breeze will find two touchdowns. I think Kamara and potentially Murray also score. So I think they can get to four touchdowns. And the Rams, I don't think the Saints are going to stop them. Well, the Saints are not going to stop the run game. They obviously missed Sheldon Rankin's last week. So, okay, you're starting Kamara. How do you feel about Todd Gurley in this game?
Starting point is 00:50:00 Number two running back. Yeah, number one. I think he's a number two. By the way, I... We don't know how much work he's going number by the way i i we don't know how much work he's gonna get last week he didn't get as much work and uh you know if he had scored if they had worked him in short yardage we'd feel a heck of a lot better about it but they didn't this is going to be market correction game where you get there inside the five and malcolm brown's there malcolm go off the field that Todd's coming on. I screwed up.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I don't know. Is it Malcolm's series or is it Todd's series? That's what they were saying. Yeah, I think Sean McVay is tired of answering that question, so I think you're going to see Todd go in there and get the question. I screwed up the order of that. What I meant to say was hopefully they're not going to stop Todd Gurley because they miss Sheldon Rankin's.
Starting point is 00:50:39 The Saints don't have to worry about Alvin Kamara. We do have to end the video portion of our show right now. I did not realize the time it got away from me. So let's do that. You can watch basically the full show of video on youtube.com slash fantasy football today. We're uploading all of the video portion, but stick around for the audio portion. When we continue fantasy football today, we'll get into Jared Goff and Drew Brees, all the wide receivers in this game,
Starting point is 00:51:07 everything you need to know. And then we've got four more games after that, which are, you know, for the most part, a lot easier. So we will be right back. Audio starts now.
Starting point is 00:51:16 So would you start Drew Brees or Jared Goff? I have Goff ranked higher. I just, I like his chances at having a big game compared to Breeze. Jamie, agreed? I would agree. I think there's a little bit of a higher ceiling for Jared Goff at home.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Like I said, I think that was the shake the rust off game. It was a tough spot. Long road trip, early start. I think he plays much better at home. Yeah, and he typically does play much better at home. Goff, I mean, like last year was ridiculous. He averaged 342 yards per game at home, 244. That was 100 yards more at home
Starting point is 00:51:54 with 12 more touchdowns and seven fewer interceptions. It was ridiculous. I also averaged more yards at home in 2017, not quite the same drastic split. So Goff is a top 10 quarterback. Breeze is a borderline starter. I think I may have asked this, but
Starting point is 00:52:11 actually I don't think I did. Carr or Breeze this week? And Breeze, just so everybody knows, only three usable road games last year. And two of them were against the two worst teams in terms of fantasy points allowed to quarterbacks, Atlanta and Cincinnati. Other than that, he was pretty bad on the road. So Breeze or Carr?
Starting point is 00:52:28 I just feel better with Breeze. I struggled with this one. I have them back-to-back right now. By the end of the day, I may change it. So right now I have Breeze as 11, Carr at 12. I may switch that and put Carr ahead of Breeze. All right, Kamara, yes. Gurley, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:40 We already talked about them. And Rams wide receivers. Cooks, Woods, Kup, start them all? Yep. Yeah. How many of them would you start Tyrell Williams over? It might be two. I think maybe all of them.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Okay. How about... Not in PPR. I'd start Woods over in PPR. Would you start Latavius Murray over any of them? Any of the Rams receivers? No. No. Would you start Latavius Murray or Aaron Jones?
Starting point is 00:53:18 Still Jones because he'll touch a lot more. Yeah, I agree. But they're both in that flex range for me. Okay. Latavius Murrayray or john brown brown jared cook or tj hawkinson hawk what's his fan duel price dave oh it's six thousand oh and fan duel their their sunday Contest, only $9 to enter. Oh, nice. Cheap. Good job, Dave.
Starting point is 00:53:52 That's worth signing up for and playing. Sit the DSTs in this game. FanDuel.com. Yes. All right. Philadelphia is at Atlanta on Sunday night. Some Eagles news. What do we have?
Starting point is 00:54:08 Torrey Smith is retired. Oh, really? Okay. That would also be Ravens and Panthers news. Good career. Yes. Yes. Philadelphia, Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Here we go. Eight of the last 10 quarterbacks to face the Eagles have thrown for 297 or more yards. I already gave that stat earlier today. The only exceptions were Mark Sanchez and Josh Johnson. Here are the quarterbacks who threw for 297 or more against the Eagles since last year. Breeze, Manning, Dak, Goff. That was when Goff wasn't throwing for a lot of yards.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Watson, Trubisky, Breeze again, and Case Keenum. Do you like or love Matt Ryan this week? I think he can bounce back in a huge way. And his numbers actually weren't terrible last week. I don't think he crushed you. No. No, he was good. Just from the standpoint of how it unfolded. I think the one thing to be concerned with is
Starting point is 00:54:59 he has not played well against the Eagles. But isn't a lot of that in Philly? Mm-hmm. Yeah. He's back home. He's a good start. Yeah. He's top 10.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Okay. I'll take him over either of the quarterbacks in the Saints-Rams game. Ryan or Wentz? I'd take off over him. I would go Wentz. All right. How about Eagles running backs? What are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:55:29 Flex at best with Miles Sanders. I think this will be a much better game flow for him because I don't think they're going to be down 20-7 at halftime, which is where Darren Sproles comes into play in a big, big way. So, look, he had a 21-yard touchdown callback from a holding penalty from a wide receiver. So that's an encouraging situation. But I do think that, you know, it's just a tough week to say he's a must-start guy.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Going back to Ryan, he's had three multiple touchdown games against him. But the last two where he's faced them against his coaching staff, he's been bad. Both of them were at Philly, though. Yeah, I buy into him being at home. And we talked about Sanders and Singletary kind of in the same vein during the draft process, and I think both of them are real close to breaking out, but I think Singletary is closer. Oh, Singletary happens this week. So would you rather start Latavius or Miles Sanders?
Starting point is 00:56:24 Latavius. Tay. How about Darren Sproles? We know the Falcons are really bad against pass-catching running backs. They have been for three straight years. It did not show last week. Maybe they'll be better. Who knows? But do you have any interest in Sproles who had three catches for 16 yards in
Starting point is 00:56:40 week one? I'm starting him in our 23-team office league. Okay. that's something uh all right so yeah he's he's a desperation kind of flex and only in ppr who's your favorite eagles wide receiver this week the sean that one why why over al sean well he had more targets last week he had just as many touchdowns he had a bunch of deep targets and short area targets. He left a lot on tape to be very nervous about if you're Atlanta. And the Falcons secondary, I don't know if they've got the corners that can really match up.
Starting point is 00:57:17 They're going to end up playing zone anyway. But he's got the burners to break it. And I know they're going to take shots with him. And we expect it to be a high-scoring game. You were just considering it to be your bonanza, Adam. I think Deshaun has more upside. He's on the fence for me as a number two fantasy receiver in PPR.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And I would rather start him than Alshon, but I like them both. Last year, number two wide receivers did very well against the Falcons. I mean, everybody did, but Chris Gobber They're going to take turns lining up on Isaiah Oliver and Teen. I won't go through all of it, but just so you know, number twos did really well.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Would you start Deshaun Jackson over the Rams guys? I would start him over Cup. I would not start all Rams guys. I think Deshaun's a very good number three receiver. Well, so what is Alshon Jeffrey then if Deshaun's only number three? A very good number three receiver. Well, so what is Alshon Jeffrey then if Deshaun's only a number three? A very good number three receiver. Okay. And Matt Ryan, 10th for Jamie, 7th for Dave, 9th for Heath.
Starting point is 00:58:14 We like him. So Calvin Ridley, how would you rank Calvin Ridley with Alshon and Deshaun Jackson? Love the matchup for him too. Philadelphia's secondary got burned by Terry McLaurin last week. Paul Richardson had deep targets. They gave up a ton of yards to Case Keenum. And now they're on the road against Atlanta and this offense, it's
Starting point is 00:58:33 going to, they're going to play better than they did last week. The matchup is so much easier for them than it was last week. So Ridley, I like Ridley better than the Eagles receivers. Top 20 for me. I do as well, but I think Ridley's a top 20 guy. I wouldn't put him much higher than that. I'd start all three Rams receivers.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Wow. All right. So fire it up with Calvin Ridley. This could be a good game. But is, okay, I don't know if this is a tough matchup for Devontae Freeman. He was terrible last week. Malik Jackson out defensive tackle for Philadelphia. And Fletcher Cox a little banged up.
Starting point is 00:59:06 How do you feel about Devontae Freeman? I feel a lot better this week than last week. Matchup is better. At home is good. He should get more work. He's in that number two running back range for sure. Last week he wasn't. This week he is.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Okay. Freeman or Aaron Jones? Freeman. If you had both of them, they were like your second and third round picks. No. I'm going to guess... Third and fourth.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Sorry, that's what I meant. Third and fourth. It could be Owen too. They started with two tough matches, but I don't know. Maybe this isn't that tough of a matchup. We shall see. Hoop.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Oh, how about Hooper? Decent PPR tight end. But if Freeman plays well, Hooper's not going to get a lot of targets. Well, if they're chasing points, then he will, like we saw last week. Right. So the theory that I've always worked off of, and I believe Hooper did not confirm this theory, so take it for what it's worth,
Starting point is 01:00:11 is that Hooper's better games come when the Falcons can't run the ball. I think they'll be better running the ball this week than they were last week, so the nine targets that Hooper got last week probably won't be there. You know, I was watching Jaws the other night. He says Hooper, screams Hooper like 50 times. It should be a drinking game. It would be a dangerous drinking game. It's just too much.
Starting point is 01:00:31 But it's just all the time. Sit the DSTs in this game, and let's go to our next game. On Friday the 13th, Dallas at Washington. I'm going a little crazy with the bites today. Sorry. I'm in a mood. Stat of the game. The Cowboys allowed the sixth fewest receiving yards per game to running backs last
Starting point is 01:00:50 year. And they did that. They were good against pass catching running backs despite facing Barkley twice, Kamara, and McCaffrey. And last week, Saquon Barkley had four catches for 19 yards. So, Chris Thompson. They have great linebackers. Yeah, absolutely. That helps them out a lot. So what do you think
Starting point is 01:01:05 i mean does that scare you off of chris thompson at all i don't have him as a top 24 but i literally have him at 25 i think he can get five catches and 50 yards on top of it there's probably a little more upside in some of the running backs i have ranked behind him so i'm probably gonna end up moving them down but still look at him in that flex range in ppr love thompson and ppr this week i think he's a top 15 running back because they're going to be up moving him down, but still look at him in that flex range in PPR. Love Thompson in PPR this week. I think he's a top 15 running back because they're going to be chasing points. And I think as you saw in one of the games against them two years ago at home, he dominated them. Now, different defense, obviously, but this is a similar quarterback that is going to check the ball down.
Starting point is 01:01:37 And what you saw last week with seven catches, I think, is probably the floor. Wow. Seven catches is the floor. Yeah. I mean, look, it's Case Keenum. I know he threw the ball down the field last week, but his M.O. is typically get the ball out of his hands quick. And he looks for his running backs. He looks for his slot receiver. He looks for his tight end. So I love
Starting point is 01:01:56 the setup for Chris Thompson this game. I'm going to go the other way. I think he's a good flex, but I think you can find better running backs. Yeah, not in PPR for me. I think he's going to have a monster game. Singletary or Chris Thompson? Oh, PPR.PR for me. I think he's going to have a monster game. Singletary or Chris Thompson? Oh, PPR. Easily Chris Thompson.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Really? I'll go with Singletary. I'll take the chance on him. And I love the breakout potential for Singletary, but in PPR I don't think it's going to be close unless Singletary scores. Singletary's going to get more carries, and I think he could have maybe two or three fewer catches than Chris Thompson. He catches the ball a lot too. Yeah, the thing is, I could see Dallas doing well And I think he could have maybe two or three fewer catches than Chris Thompson. He catches the ball a lot too.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Yeah, the thing is, I could see Dallas doing well on a yards standpoint against Thompson. But as long as he's catching the passes, he's going to give you a nice PPR floor. Absolutely. Dak Prescott is top 10, 9th for Jamie, 6th for Dave, 7th for Heath. So you might have a tough decision, golf or Dak. I mean, they're going to be in the same range, Ryan or Dak, but he should be good. And Zeke, we're going to start. Hopefully we get that big workload. So Cooper's a start, but Michael Gallup, starter's hit. Very good flex. Yep. What else in this game? Vernon Davis, Jordan Reed.
Starting point is 01:03:05 How do we like them? Vernon, if you're desperate at tight end, I know he scored last week. It seemed a little fluky how he did it. I'd like to see him get more volume. Maybe he'll get it. Whoever the starting Redskins tight end is is a borderline starter. That's a fair way to put it.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Dallas. Dallas allowed the sixth fewest fantasy points to tight ends last year. They didn't face a lot of good ones. They did well against Ertz once. They did horribly against Ertz once and Ingram twice. And then last week, they got crushed by Ingram. But that's not surprising. We're talking about Vernon Davis
Starting point is 01:03:34 here. Go back to 2017. Jordan Reed missed 10 games. In each of the first four games, Davis had 58 to 76 yards. And then he faded down the stretch. He averaged 20 yards per game in the last six games. In each of the first four games, Davis had 58 to 76 yards. And then he faded down the stretch. He averaged 20 yards per game in the last six games.
Starting point is 01:03:49 So maybe it's, you know, maybe you'll get him right now while he's good. I think we're done with this team. Terry McLaurin? Okay, let's say you have Latavius Murray, Devin Singletary, Terry McLaurin. How would you rank those three? Singletary, Latavius Murray, Devin Singletary, Terry McLaurin. How would you rank those three?
Starting point is 01:04:06 Singletary, Latavius, McLaurin. I think I have it ranked that way. I would not fault you if you wanted to take the chance on McLaurin, who just has really good deep speed and plays a lot in that offense. I prefer you keep McLaurin on the bench. All right, we got two games left. He's worth a bench spot. Two games left.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Dallas DST top six. Stardom. Buffalo at the Giants. Stat of the game. The Bills allowed the second fewest fantasy points to tight ends last year. Virgil Green was the only one with more than 48 yards against the Bills. They did not face the toughest competition. Would you fade Evan Ingram in DFS?
Starting point is 01:04:46 I would consider it. The price isn't really that bad. I'm starting him. I think he's going to crush it. I mean, he's got no choice but to. He's going to get a ton of volume, but he's going to get a ton of attention too. I'm not...
Starting point is 01:04:58 I mean, it's an interesting thing. We'll see. They're usually a pretty good pass defense and a bad run defense. I would imagine that for four quarters, over four quarters, eventually Ingram can break through. Whether or not he can give you 20 fantasy points on FanDuel, I don't know if that's in the offing. And I think that's what you would need. I think you'd need at least that many to make them worth your while.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Okay. So sticking with the Giants, start him and start Barkley. Going to the Bills, I don't think we've talked enough about Josh Allen. He's a borderline starter. And give me some guys you'd start him over. Josh Allen. I'd start him over Rivers.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I'd start him over Kyler. I'd start him over... I mean, the other backup quarterback, Stafford. Garoppolo? Oh, easy. I'd start him over Garoppolo. I'd start him over Kyler, Kirk, Dalton. I currently have Carr behind Josh Allen.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Okay. Devin Singletary. By now, we should have a pretty good idea of how we feel about him. Breakout potential. It's not the safest play, but if you're feeling a little risky, Giants is just going to have a really bad defense. It's the bottom line. Okay, John Brown we like quite a bit.
Starting point is 01:06:16 He's about the same range as Singletary in terms of flex. He's a number two receiver and a solid flex. I'd say he's higher than Singletary. Okay. How about anyone else? Cole Beasley? Who's better than Singletary? John Brown. Oh, no. I'll take Singletary. Right. That's why I knew that. That's why I said
Starting point is 01:06:36 they're in the same range because I knew you guys differed there. No, I like Brown better. Anyone else in this game? Beasley's not a bad flyer. I think you saw last week they had trouble with the slot receivers. Cleveland at the Jets to finish things off.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Are there any Jets other than Le'Veon Bell that you're starting? Crowder and PPR is a flex. All right. Yeah, I mean, look, Trevor Simeon gave us two 1,000-yard receivers in 2016. They both had five touchdowns, Demarius and Emmanuel Sanders. Simeon gave his two 1,000-yard receivers in 2016. They both had five touchdowns, Demarius and Emmanuel Sanders.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Simeon played 14 games. He missed a portion of one, so he really played like 13 games. Then he was terrible the following year, and he didn't play in 2018. I don't have much faith in him, especially kind of preparing on a short week. So really, let's just talk about the Browns and Baker Mayfield behind Derek Carr, is that right? I have Mayfield higher. I would take Derek Carr.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Okay. I would take Derek Carr on Vanduul. It's interesting. Baker Mayfield is a guy who was drafted as a top five or six quarterback who had a bad game. And it seems like it is a good matchup. And he had good moments in the game, but he just melted down at the end.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Can the Jets put the same kind of pressure on him that the Titans did? I don't know. I don't think so. I think that their corners just cannot hang with their receivers. Baker is in top 12 for me, but he's pretty close. I'm not running away from Baker Mayfield like me
Starting point is 01:08:07 having Carr over him is not an indictment that you have to go pick up Derek Carr over Baker Mayfield start Nick Chubb start Odell Beckham Landry's a good flex Landry or Crowder I may have already asked that I'm sorry Crowder it is and
Starting point is 01:08:24 Najoku how do you feel about him this week? If you think he can catch another touchdown, go for it. That's really all he's good for. He is a touchdown or bust tight end. Dave, you going to move the Browns DST up their 10th? Nope. I got them right where I want them. Top five.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Ooh, spooky show today. Thanks, guys. We're out of here. That's what? We're done? Yeah, we're done, Jamie. Okay, the smell stinks here. Bye.
Starting point is 01:08:53 I love how you guys have to finish up with the smelliest room in the office. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

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