Fantasy Football Today - 09/18: Trade Talk! Plus TEN-JAC and Regulators (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 18, 2019

Our favorite Buy Low (3:20) and Sell High (12:40) candidates to start the show. Are we still selling Derrick Henry or is he just good? Are we running away from Michael Thomas or is he a Buy Low? What ...about the Broncos RBs? ... The big news (21:00) on Cam Newton, Antonio Brown and more. How are we approaching the Panthers guys now? Also, who are some 2019 early breakouts and are we buying it (26:40)? It's Dalvin Cook, Mark Andrews and a few others. Then we preview TEN-JAC (36:25). Are any of the WRs in play? ... Fantasy Regulators Part One (45:25)! The Most Traded list (51:40) including Austin Ekeler and some Patriots WRs, your questions from our inbox, Twitter and iTunes, and then the most scandalous, controversial Fantasy Regulators we've ever had (1:04:05)! ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Happy Hump Day, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Welcome to the Wednesday edition of Fantasy Football Today. Coming up, a lot of trade talk. Who to buy low on, who to sell high. Are we buying the breakout? I asked the Twitter followers, if you were rewriting your 2019 breakouts column, who would you lead with? And it took like eight answers before we got Dalvin Cook,
Starting point is 00:00:41 which of course is the right answer. I eliminated Lamar Jackson and Austin Eckler from the discussion. So we're going to talk a ton about their trade value. We're going to preview the Thursday night game. We have a very, very disappointing email, a fantasy regulators email that just makes me sad that we're going to read later on in the show. I am Adam Azer, and of course it's Wednesday, so the Heath is on. What's up, Heath? Feels like I've been forever since I talked to you.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I am very happy to see your face and hear your voice. I can't wait to spend the next hour with you. I also think you did a really terrible job at our fab last night. Why? But that's okay. I appreciate the fact that you're doing it. And I don't have to do the 19th team. So I'm not even going to complain about it.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I put in too much on Mason Rudolph? Yeah, you spent a third of our budget on Mason Rudolph. Is he our fourth quarterback? It's a 2QB league. Well, it's a super flex league. And we had Ben Roethlisberger and Derek Carr as our backup quarterback. So, yeah, I wanted a third guy on the team. So I'm sorry, Heath.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I apologize. You are welcome since I did. I think that was a smart call-out. Thank you. I'm not particularly excited about Mason Rudolph. I think Ben needs intro music. Don't you? How do we feel about this? This is Ben Folds 5.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I know who it is. How do we feel about Ben Folds 5 on this podcast? I don't know if we've ever had this discussion. Whatever. I am extremely hot and cold on Ben Folds 5. I can either feel like, man, these guys are geniuses, or I would like to punch all of them in the face. I just don't understand how Ben didn't know Ben Folds 5.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Ben didn't know that? No, Ben doesn't know any. I'm supposed to know everything that might have my name related to it? Yes, yes. And you're supposed to know something about pop culture. Like, come on. The one that everyone has done my whole life is Benny and the Jets. So next week you'll have to cue that.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Next week, Benny and the Jets. That would have been much, much better. That probably would have been. Probably would have been. All right, you know, we're going to reflect at some point soon that this week, Cam Newton, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger. We don't know for sure about Cam, but it's a good chance they're all out. We know three of them are going to be out.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Kyle Allen, Mason Rudolph, Teddy Bridgewater, and Daniel Jones are in. Now, forget about the Giants situation, but we could just have a lot less offense this week. So we'll get into that in a second. Let's do Bilo and sell high. Heath, who's your favorite Bilo? Let's give a few names. We'll go one at a time, but first round,
Starting point is 00:03:19 Heath, Bilo. So we're doing multiple favorites. My favorite Bilo right now is Michael Thomas. I don't believe that Teddy Bridgewater is going to kill his value. Not at all. We've seen Bridgewater with worse weapons and a worse offense be a basically league average quarterback. He really likes to drop back,
Starting point is 00:03:40 back and dump it off quick. 36% of his targets went to Thomas after he came into the game on Sunday. I still expect Michael Thomas to be a top five wide receiver in PPR. If anyone's concerned about his value, I will gladly take him off your plate. Are you extending that to a non PPR where I think with these teams, they're just going to score fewer touchdowns, you'd have to think, with their backup quarterback. So I get it in PPR. I would still buy low on Michael Thomas in non-PPR. I would
Starting point is 00:04:11 not buy as high. Okay, so... I still think he's top eight. Okay. So who's the guy you might give? Would you give up Chris Godwin for Michael Thomas? In a heartbeat. Okay. Ben, you give up chris godwin for michael thomas in a heartbeat okay uh ben you're up first round of bilo oh my favorite bilo this week is royce freeman i mean we know that he was like it's hard to remember this but he was drafted in the second
Starting point is 00:04:38 round as opposed to philip lindsey being you know the udfa last year he's almost 50 pounds heavier has better agility numbers is only a tenth of a second uh was only a tenth of a second slower in the 40 he's a way better size adjusted athlete way better to handle the nfl the rigors of the nfl and one of the big underrated uh early season trends we've seen is that the broncos aren't using a third back last year davante booker played just over, just under 20 snaps per game in games that he was active, like 19 point something. Royce Freeman was right around 22 snaps per game in the games where he was
Starting point is 00:05:14 active. And Lindsay was at about 30 snaps per game. So they, even though they had both those guys, they were working in Booker in a pass catching role in the first two games. Devante Booker has played almost no snaps whatsoever. We've seen Lynn and Lindsay for that reason is also an interesting buy, but we've seen Lindsay and Royce really dominate the backfield this week.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Joe Flacco through 14 targets to those two guys. They both got seven targets. Freeman was a lot better, had over a hundred total yards and Flacco. We've seen do that throughout his career, dump off a lot of passes a couple of years ago when he actually was a 16 game starter both Alex Collins I believe it was as the as the lead running back and Javorius Allen as the pass catching back were top 24 backs in fantasy yeah Ben I just I guess I wonder if we have a situation where both of these guys are just too involved
Starting point is 00:06:00 and unless one of them gets hurt we basically have two flex options so am I buying low on Royce Freeman who's not going to be a must-start guy you know are either of these guys going to be must-starts and unless one of them gets hurt, we basically have two flex options. So am I buying low on Royce Freeman, who's not going to be a must-start guy? Are either of these guys going to be must-starts? Yeah, I think the situation's better. Like I said two years ago, Baltimore had two backs in a not very good offense,
Starting point is 00:06:16 had two backs finish in the top 24 end of season in PPR particularly. But it's because of all those targets, 14 targets, seven to each of them. If one of them gets hurt, there's massive upside. If neither of them does, I think it's a better situation than last year because of the way Flacco likes to target the position so much. All right, my buy low is still Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Not surprised he had a bad game, and it wasn't terrible. Four catches for 61 yards at Carolina. First game was awful, under 30 yards. Mike Evans did have two instances last season where he had back-to-back games with less than 60 yards and no touchdowns. Two straight bad games. It happened twice last year.
Starting point is 00:06:52 He still finished as wide receiver six in non-PPR, wide receiver nine in PPR. And he's got the Giants this week. That's a get-right game. I do see some potentially difficult matchups coming up like New Orleans and then Carolina again. But he had two good games. He had one great game and one good game against New Orleans last year.
Starting point is 00:07:10 So, you know, I'm just going to believe in Mike Evans. I'm going to call him a buy low. Heath, round two of buy low. Oh, I thought we were going to the sell highs now. Crap. Not yet. Not yet. Round two. I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:07:25 This is a snake drift. Okay. Obviously a snake drift. I want to talk about Miles Sanders a little bit more. I think I talked about him last week on the show. I know I wrote him up in Stealing Signals last week as well, and he wasn't very good this week again, but he started again, and he led the team in snaps again.
Starting point is 00:07:44 He didn't lead the team in routes this week. Darren Sproles ran a few more routes, but he still ran a really healthy route percentage for a back in a committee. And he's run more routes through two weeks than Sproles. He also got rush attempts inside the 10 yard line on two separate drives. He seems to be their preferred back in close. He has four of their five touches inside the 10 yard line. They're running back touches inside the 10 yard line on the season. I thought Jordan Howard would be that guy, but they're already starting Miles Sanders. They're already using him in close. He had a
Starting point is 00:08:11 touchdown called back to a holding penalty where he looked really good in week one. His production is not there at all yet, but essentially his role to me is no different than a guy like Kerryon Johnson's where he's going to lose a little bit of work. This is always going to be a committee, but he's a talented back that production hasn't been there yet. But the opportunity that we want has, he's been starting, he's been getting the in close touches and he's been running a good amount of routes. All right. The only thing I worry is they've kind of talked a little bit this week about how he's not hitting the holes they want him to, and he's bouncing it outside too much i hope he doesn't lose touches but i do still think like he's a
Starting point is 00:08:48 good buy low i i've got one now and it was a guy i was really low on in draft season but i think now is the time to buy low on kyler murray he's the number 18 quarterback in standard cbs leagues he's actually been outscored by gardner minshu marcus mariota and andy dalton i would anticipate with the volume they're getting, if you're someone that just lost your starting quarterback, and let's face it, like a third of the league did, it's pretty likely the guy who drafted Kyler Murray also drafted another quarterback.
Starting point is 00:09:15 That other quarterback has probably been better than Murray so far. I might try to make an offer for Murray. I don't think you will get any disagreement from Ben. I know that's another guy that Ben wanted to buy low on, Kyler Murray. He has only 17 rushing yards so far this season, so we haven't seen him use his legs yet. But, yeah, they are throwing a ton. They are a fast-paced team, and it's excellent.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So the five buy lows we gave you are Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Royce Freeman, Miles Sanders, and Kyler Murray. And I don't know if everybody agrees on all of them, but I think there's general consensus there. I did push back on the Royce Freeman thing a little bit. I would say he's been, yeah. The arrow's pointing up for him. I thought he was trash.
Starting point is 00:09:58 He's not. But, you know, I just kind of, philosophically, guys. He scored. I don't like. Real quick on Freeman. One more point on Freeman I wanted, he scored. I don't like real quick. One more one more point on Freeman. I want to mention because he wasn't good last year. But you got to remember in college, this guy was an absolute dominant performer, had over 800 receiving yards at the college level, which is elite performance for a bigger back and had, I believe, is 5600 rushing yards, 64 touchdowns over four seasons. He averaged 16 touchdowns a year.
Starting point is 00:10:27 This guy has the potential to be this elite size, size, speed, receiving, do-it-all back. He has all of that in his repertoire. If something happens to Lindsey, who's a small back, and I don't believe necessarily just because of a one season, has shown that he can hold up to the NFL, you know, the rigors of an NFL season. If something happens to him, Royce Freeman will win leagues this year with Joe Flacco throwing that many targets to the running back position. And as far as how bad he was last year, they've been pretty clear that he was playing most of the season
Starting point is 00:10:56 on a high ankle sprain and still broke more tackles on fewer touches than Phillip Lindsey did. Still picked up more yards after contact on fewer touches than Phillip Lindsey did. That's because nobody touched Philip Lindsay. I think there's a pretty good chance Royce Freeman's better running back than Philip Lindsay. I think no. Really good chance.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I think it's possible. I think you guys are selling Philip Lindsay a little bit short. Philip Lindsay was elite last year. He was amazing last year. Yes, and an underrated prospect in his own right. I agree. He's not bad.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Just small. All right, well, listen. I would not recommend an underrated prospect in his own right. I agree. He's not just small. All right. Well, listen, I would not recommend starting both of them in FanDuel. I think that would be a really bad idea. But since fantasy football season is in full swing, there are more ways to win money on FanDuel than ever. Every single game, every single week. If you've never played on FanDuel, hey, why don't you sign up?
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Starting point is 00:12:14 Get a new lineup every single week. It is a ton of fun. Heath is going to have like over 100 lineups every week. He loves DFS. We all love DFS, some more than others. You can play high stakes. You can play for a dollar, whatever you want. Go to Fanduel.com slash FFT.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Make that $20 deposit and get the $5 in site credit every week for four weeks. That's at Fanduel.com slash FFT or just download the Fanduel app. All right, Heath, I think you're excited about selling high. Yeah, I'm selling high on the number one wide receiver in non-PPR leagues so far this season. It's John Ross. I am impressed that he was able to follow up his week one performance with another one. I'm more open to the idea that he might actually be someone
Starting point is 00:12:56 you could use maybe as a flex for the remainder of the season. I'm not buying into the level of production that we've gotten so far, and I am more than willing to sell him if somebody thinks that they're going to be able to treat him as a top 24 wide receiver. Maybe you'll sell him to Ben? Ben, is John Ross top 24? Yeah, I mean, he's obviously going to regress from what he's done so far. I don't think that's a bold thing.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah, obviously. Top 24 rest of the season? With A.J. Green coming back. What do you think? I don't think he's going to be the wide receiver one at the end of the year. No, I don't think he can stay that year. No, do you think he'll be a top 24 wide receiver from this point forward? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah, I think that's a fair point. If you can get that kind of value, yeah, I think he's probably a sell. Especially with A.J. Green coming back like Adamson. I would still rather have Tyler Boyd than John Ross. I think that's a trade you could possibly make. Who are you selling high on, Ben? I'll do T.Y. Hilton. I mean, anybody who has scored a lot of touchdowns and Adam, the guy I know that you're about to talk about, would probably be even higher for me.
Starting point is 00:13:58 But T.Y. Hilton, two touchdowns in week one. Pretty solid game with Jacoby Brissett. I don't think Brissett's going to kill his profile, but Indianapolis has been the run-heaviest team through two weeks in neutral situations, early-down neutral situations. They're running a ton. They even ran while trailing a lot in week one. They want to be a ball-control offense.
Starting point is 00:14:20 They want their good offensive line and their defense to be able to win them games now that they no longer have Andrew Luck. Hilton gets another late touchdown last week to go to three touchdowns through two weeks. I do think he's going to have his boom games, but I think his volume is going to be pretty inconsistent throughout the year. So he's a guy that if you can get a decent return now that he's had
Starting point is 00:14:37 two solid games, scored three touchdowns, I'd sell him. Would you rather have T.Y. Hilton or Tyler Boyd? Boyd. I'll take H T.Y. Hilton or Tyler Boyd? Boyd. I'll take Hilton. All right. My guy is Derrick Henry, and I just might be a fool all year.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I don't know. But I just think in this day and age, a running back who does not catch passes, and he's got three catches in two games, is a risky, risky running back. So, you know, I think he might be all right on Thursday. We're going to preview that game. He's a top 12 running back in non-PPR for everybody, but certainly in PPR. It's just the way that people have valued Derrick Henry.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Some people taking him in the second round, the third round, maybe they're right, maybe I'm wrong. But I know that there are a lot of people, a lot of fantasy players who just love Derrick Henry, and I am not there yet. I am not buying it. So, so far, a great start, players who just love Derrick Henry, and I'm, I just, I am not there yet. I am not buying it. So, so far, a great start. 80 yards and a touchdown in
Starting point is 00:15:29 two straight games, rushing yards. With a little, with a 75-yard touchdown catch, which obviously he's not gonna get. Um, yeah, I'm selling high, and I'm selling really high. Like, if you could get Todd Gurley for Derrick Henry, which you might sit there and go, you crazy? Nobody's doing that. I guarantee some people would. Um, would you guys take Kerryon Johnson for Derrick Henry, which you might sit there and go, you're crazy. Nobody's doing that. I guarantee some people would. Would you guys take
Starting point is 00:15:47 Kerryon Johnson over Derrick Henry? Yep. I'm really struggling. I mostly agree with you, but every week this happens, we get closer to the sample size of him being a stud running back over the last year and a half being as big as the same like we're still a ways away from that happening but carry on johnson i'm not sure that his role is going to be any more valuable than derrick henry's is i kind of almost think that cj anderson getting cut and ty johnson being the number two is going to be worse for johnson because it might be because ty john Johnson's going to take more of the pass-catching work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:27 So I'd rather have Henry, and I actually have Henry ranked ahead of Gurley this week, though. That's fine, but I'd rather have Gurley rest of season. And I think Joe Mixon. That was a good point. Joe Mixon is the obvious guy to go get, by the way. If you have Derek Henry, I would give him up for Mixon to me. Sure, that's a good one. I just wanted to say
Starting point is 00:16:45 he made good points this is becoming a larger sample i've always been kind of a henry hater but i it's the the high value touch stuff that i've talked so much about he gets none of it adam you you mentioned the the receptions they're not there ever and just so much of his workload is low value touches you have to rely on him breaking a long touchdown. And I just struggle with it too. But he's right. He's done that a lot. So maybe he's just a huge anomaly, which wouldn't be crazy because look at his size and speed. He is an anomaly as an athlete. So who knows? Yeah. I'm starting to think I could be wrong on Henry. That's why I'm saying if you're selling high, it should be for someone like Joe Mixon. It should be for someone like Todd Gurley.
Starting point is 00:17:28 It should be for someone that you... If you don't like those guys, then fine. But it should be for someone that you think is great. And I think you can get that for Derek Henry. Guys, we are way behind. So give me each of you one more sell-high candidate, and then we'll move on to the big news. We got to talk about Cam Newton and Antonio Brown
Starting point is 00:17:44 and all this stuff and some 2019 breakouts and more. Go ahead, Ben. Henry was my other one. I'm going to need a quick second, so let's go to Heath. Okay, I've got this one ready. I am ready for the sell-highs today. I'm going to go with Josh Jacobs.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I'm a little bit disturbed by his lack of a role in the passing game, just a 4.8% target share in his first two games. This is a team that's going to be playing from behind more often than not. In his next four games, Bears, Packers, Colts, Vikings. If he plays. Not in that order. And he's hurt. Not in that order.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yeah. And he's kind of hurt. So I'd be selling high on Jacobs. But what do you make of the fact that none of the running backs are catching passes? Because Jalen Richard and DeAndre Washington have two catches each, and Jacobs has one. Gruden told Carr repeatedly during the preseason and told reporters that he wanted him to throw downfield and stop dumping the ball off so much. Okay. He's throwing the ball downfield.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Ben? I got to sell high here uh carlos hyde people are like really excited about carlos hyde again he looked good uh in a lot more work this week against jacksonville he got 20 touches but also only one excuse me no targets one green zone touch wasn't able to punch it in for a touchdown 19 of those 20 touches were the low value rush attempts that i always harp against if this is a good situation for hyde where he dominates the game and he gets 20 carries and he runs for 4.5 yards a carry and he only gets you nine fantasy points because he catches no
Starting point is 00:19:18 passes and doesn't get into the end zone and only gets 90 rushing yards and that's all you're getting you're not getting anything else you're not getting any other you know fancy points from receptions or from receiving yards or anything else if that's a good game for him that's not a guy you want that's exactly the definition of the of the trap back that we've talked about before 90 rushing yards nine fantasy points he had a good game in real football he did not have a good fantasy game all right some things to promote the it iTunes mailbag. We have some of your iTunes questions coming up later in the show. So just go to iTunes or Apple Podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:21:02 the video show, and then you can see replays of that later on. If you were rewriting your 2019 breakout story, who would you lead with? Oh, wait. We have to do the big news. We have to do the big news. I skipped that.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Here we go. Cam Newton has a foot injury. He's uncertain for week three. Kyle Allen could start in his place. Allen did have a very nice game, 28 fantasy points in week 17 against the Saints who were resting a lot of their offensive starters.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Unclear how much they rested their defensive starters. I read the recap today. I know they played some of their studs for the first half. But regardless, he scored a rushing touchdown, 228 passing yards, and two touchdowns. Curtis Samuel, DJ Moore both had good games. Tight end Ian Thomas had a good game. Heath, what's the impact here of Cam Newton's foot injury?
Starting point is 00:21:48 It's not good, obviously. This was supposed to be the get-right game against a defense that hasn't stopped anybody yet. I don't know, though, how much I'm going to negatively downgrade the Panthers' weapons if we're talking about a one-week start for Kyle Allen. He was fine in his only start last year, did target the right guys. We didn't see him with McCaffrey, but I think that he is good enough
Starting point is 00:22:17 to lead this offense against that defense. Specifically, Greg Olson against Arizona was our favorite waiver wire ad. This Arizona defense has given up the number one tight end performance in non-PPR each of the first two weeks of the season. I think DJ Moore will still be fine. Curtis Samuel scored a touchdown with Allen.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I'd be a little bit more concerned about him just because of target share, but mostly I'm just okay with the Panthers. What will be really, to me, more interesting is if Cam practices Thursday and then practices Friday with all the injuries we've had at quarterback, are we
Starting point is 00:22:55 sitting Cam Newton against the Arizona Cardinals? I just don't think he's going to run. I would play him. Well, I want to see him sit, to be quite honest, as a Cam owner. He needs to run, and he's not going to run. I would play him. Well, I want to see him sit, to be quite honest, as a Cam owner. Yeah. Because he needs to run. And he's not going to run with this damn foot injury.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So get healthy, you know? Get healthy. And what would you tell the Cam Newton owner right now? Is he a drop? No, I'm not dropping him. I'm making other plans for this week. But I'm not dropping him. Yeah, it depends how shallow your league is. If it's a really shallow league where you can't really justify carrying two
Starting point is 00:23:30 quarterbacks, I can see it. There's a lot of viable quarterbacks, but I can see dropping him. But in any kind of deeper league, I would want to hold him if I could. Well, instead of starting Dak Prescott over Cam, I'll just start DeeDee Westbrook, right? Antonio Brown, his status is uncertain. He is the most traded player in CBS Sports Leagues, so we'll look at the most traded list. But Heath, have you ranked Antonio Brown this week? Are you assuming he will play as of right now,
Starting point is 00:23:55 Wednesday morning? Oh, yeah. I'm assuming he will play and ruin the value of the other Patriots. I've got him as my number 24 wide receiver right now. Edelman's at 29, and Josh Gordon's at like 40. I hate this situation. Each week, I'm going to be terribly wrong about one of these wide receivers,
Starting point is 00:24:12 and I'm going to be right about two of them. And it's kind of gross, but for now, you assume Brown's playing. Okay. Jalen Ramsey expected to play on Thursday, unless they trade him. Deshaun Jackson will not have surgery for an abdominal strain, but he is
Starting point is 00:24:26 out two weeks. Alshon Jeffrey, of course, may not play this week. Nelson Aguilar was a big-time priority on the waiver wire. He was the first guy on waivers in some of my leagues last night, maybe the second. Trevor Simeon out for the season with an ankle injury. Sam Darnold said he
Starting point is 00:24:41 went in the other room and started screaming into a pillow and punching the pillow as hard as he could when he saw Trevor Simeon got hurt. And that is my move. That is what I do when I am mad at sports. I go upstairs to the bedroom and I beat the crap out of a pillow.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And I don't cry. I can absolutely picture you in your room punching a pillow crying. I assume the pillow has a heath face on it um like this is an image we've all gotten our heads i just thought sam darlin and i have so much in common but he could be back after the buy and i've never had mono and neither is heath he had a cold for two weeks and uh all right that's uh those are your big news items if you were rewriting your 2019 breakout story, who would you lead with?
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Starting point is 00:25:45 store, they have over 50,000 five-star reviews. If you want to save 10 bucks on your first purchase, you go to SeatGeek, you find the event you want, you buy your tickets, and you type in FFT. FFT is the promo code for 10 bucks off. So basically, SeatGeek pulls together millions of tickets from all over the web. You don't have to go to different sources. You go to one source and SeatGeek pulls together millions of tickets from all over the web. You don't have to go to different sources. You go to one source and SeatGeek brings all the tickets in, rates each deal on a scale of 1 to 10, and displays them on an interactive seat map. And I can tell you that when I search for events,
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Starting point is 00:26:45 He has had two 100-yard games with a touchdown, eight catches in both games, 16 catches on 17 targets, I believe. And he's at Kansas City this week. Ben, are you buying the Mark Andrews breakout? Yeah, definitely. I mean, he has a very obvious connection with Lamar Jackson, but another concern was that he wouldn't necessarily play the full amount. Well, Jackson's also hitting the other tight ends. We're also seeing Jackson's preference for throwing to the tight end position carry over. Marquise Brown's obviously been great,
Starting point is 00:27:14 but we've seen the other tight ends involved as well. So it's not really that big of a concern that Andrews is sharing some routes and some targets because Jackson really likes that position. He's the lead guy there. Definitely buying it. Okay. Now, if we think Lamar Jackson's a sell-high, is Mark Andrews also a sell-high? I didn't say Lamar Jackson's a sell-high.
Starting point is 00:27:38 You don't think he's a sell-high? Everybody thinks Lamar Jackson's a sell-high. Well, everybody on this show has. We haven't been on the show. I disagree. Are you telling me Heath that you don't think Lamar Jackson is a sell high? It depends on what you're talking. Like if you could sell him for a number one running back.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Sure. A number one wide receiver. Sure. Well, right. Yeah. If you're getting top three quarterback value after two weeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I don't, I don't necessarily play leagues where the value changes that much, or I don't expect the value to have changed that much and where i have him i'm expecting top i i like i would have him in top three rest of season quarterback okay i have three lamar jackson trades from our listeners okay the first one is from stefan he has jared goff he gave up lamar jackson andeem Mostert for David Johnson. Yeah, make that trade. Yep. What? Okay. The second one
Starting point is 00:28:31 is from Matt. He gave up Lamar Jackson, carry on Johnson, Allen Robinson, and 15% of his fab. He owns Tom Brady, by the way. He gave up Lamar Jackson, carry on Johnson, Allen Robinson, and 15% of his fab. He got Kamara and Thielen.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Yeah. Yeah, you do. Yeah. Yeah, of course. That's amazing. Yeah. What do you mean? I don't know if that's a...
Starting point is 00:28:59 I don't know if there's going to be a huge difference between Thielen and Robinson. Don't say that. Please don't say that. Sure. I agree with that. Please don't say that. Sure. I agree with that. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 00:29:08 They were six rounds apart. I was more concerned by the Vikings' second-week passing performance than I was their first-week passing performance. Because I knew, and Ben said this last week, we just saw the floor. They're not going to throw 10 passes in a game again. They probably won't throw fewer than 20 passes in a game. But we saw a game where the Vikings trailed throughout. They were playing from behind
Starting point is 00:29:32 throughout, and Kirk Cousins threw 32 passes. If 32 passes is a ceiling, Adam Thielen is in big-time trouble. That's not his ceiling. They didn't have the ball that much. They didn't have the ball that much. I don't think Adam Thielen is in that much trouble. One thing you can say in his defense is him and Diggs both were his ceiling. They didn't have the ball that much. They didn't have the ball that much. I don't think Adam Thiel has that much trouble.
Starting point is 00:29:45 One thing you can say in his defense is him and Diggs both were such a concentrated passing offense. They both targeted plenty. They had 89% of the team's air yards. They're the only downfield options in town. Right, right, right. So that does help. They combined for 89%. You don't see
Starting point is 00:30:01 two players combine for 89% of a team's air yards. That's crazy. Well, yeah, when they only have 73 air yards, the bars are lower. Is that all they had? No, I was just going to say. Oh, my God. That could have been true. I don't know. Okay, so somebody gave up Lamar Jackson and David Montgomery for Saquon Barkley.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Well, okay, yes. So this is what I'm talking about. These trades are happening. They are happening. You are talking about, though, people getting more for Lamar Jackson than we would have told you to give for Patrick Mahomes before the season. Sure. I know that those trades would not happen in our leagues, but I know that they are happening in a lot of leagues.
Starting point is 00:30:39 It's just what happens. Okay, so to clarify, the reason Mark Andrews is not a sell high with Lamar Jackson is because I don't think you can get the number one overall running back for Mark Andrews. Rank these guys rest of season. Let's go Mark Andrews, Evan Ingram, O.J. Howard. Ingram, Andrews, Howard. Yeah, that's tough. It's definitely Ingram first.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I might have to take andrews over howard too i'm not completely out on howard yet though all right 509 hawks guy if you were rewriting your 2019 breakout story who would you leave with 509 hawks guy says rookie wide receivers need their own section so which rookie wide receiver is your favorite it's got to be Marquise Brown. He's been so productive. He was the first receiver taken in the draft. And yes, he only played the 14 snaps and ran the eight routes in week one.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Immediately in week two, he jumped all the way up to a full slate of snaps and routes and was, again, the number one receiving option for Jackson. It's definitely got to be him, in my opinion. Yeah, I'll say Marquise Brown, but I do think relative to their current perception, I'm more interested in acquiring Terry McLaurin. And I was totally whiffed on him during the draft process and have loved everything that he's done so far.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I do think he has a better chance to dominate targets in Washington than Marquise Brown does. And he doesn't have the same perception right now, even though his production, it hasn't been that much different through two weeks. So I'm buying both, but I'd rather buy McLaurin. You like them better than obviously Brown,
Starting point is 00:32:15 but DK Metcalf, Debo Samuel also in that group. Metcalf is behind those for me. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Metcalf's behind two for me, but again, yeah, this, this guy's not wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:27 The rookie wide receiver class has been awesome. All those guys are... Yeah. All right. Kenny Galladay from Michael. Kenny Galladay would lead his breakout story, and this is great. I was nervous about Kenny Galladay. So far, Marvin Jones has not been a factor, but 19 targets in two games.
Starting point is 00:32:43 A little disappointing against Arizona in week one. Four catches, 42 yards, but he did score. Huge game against the Chargers. Eight catches, 117 yards, and a touchdown at Philadelphia this week. Do we think Kenny Galladay is truly breaking out? Is he becoming just a true stud? I don't think this is any different than what we saw
Starting point is 00:33:02 in the past. I mean, I think he's a legitimate number one receiver. Week one, they had a ton of extra volume because they played Arizona who played really fast paced and they had an overtime game. And Galladay was way behind Danny Amendola and TJ Hawkinson in terms of production. Week two, it swung back around. He was the legitimate number one, had a massive target share, a massive area share, had the second highest weighted opportunity rating on the week. But we've seen that type of thing from him before. He's very good. The issue is just the passing volume in the whole offense. Yeah, he's had two good games. I don't think his situation has changed much at all from what I expected in preseason. Well, maybe not from what you expected, but based on where he was drafted, late fourth round, with a lot of respect, but not this type of production. Is Kenny Galladay
Starting point is 00:33:50 moving ahead of the Vikings wide receivers in your mind? No. They have moved behind him. Okay. So you take Galladay over. Difference of opinion there. I like it. Would you rather have Kenny Galladay or Robert Woods?
Starting point is 00:34:07 Robert Woods. Yeah, I'm still going to take Robert Woods. Okay. Last guy in the breakout list from JW. Yeah, I mean, this one, Dalvin Cook. Dalvin Cook, if he stays healthy, I mean, he's the top five player. Right? I mean, you could make the case as the fifth
Starting point is 00:34:25 pick in the draft right now right yeah and we haven't seen them go away from the run at all and they're going to keep running the ball a ton uh his his yards per carry is going to come down a little bit the 6.5 that he's averaging right now obviously the 75 yard touchdown last week bumped that up a little bit but when they do throw more i still expect him to be involved in the passing game he's going to be in every down back i mean he played even more snaps in week two than did in week one they're really leaning on him little added bonus for dalvin cook if you get there his second game against chicago which would be his toughest matchup most likely is that is week 17 he plays chicago in week 4 and week 17 so you can avoid the bears there which is also
Starting point is 00:35:04 great news for kirkousins, right? News and notes. Yeah. Yeah. The Chargers signed Lance Kendrick and they lost Adrian Phillips for the season. So that's two safeties gone for the Chargers. That's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Patriots left tackle Isaiah Wiener. How do they have a season-ending injury every week? Yeah, and it's tough. How do the Chargers have a season-ending injury every week? Every week of every season. Yeah. It's just like... I didn't even hear about this one. How do the Chargers have a season-ending injury every week? Every week of every season. Yeah, it's just like, I don't even hear about this one. Them and the Jaguars. Yeah, Adrian Phillips out for the year.
Starting point is 00:35:30 It's tough. Isaiah Wynn on IR. So that's two Patriots offensive linemen, a left tackle and a center on IR. Does this matter at all, Heath, for the Patriots? I don't think it does this week. It could be a problem against good teams if Wynn doesn't get back before they play one. True. Denver cut C.J. Anderson, signed Paul Perkins.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Ty Johnson could be the backup. You could look at him maybe in PPR leagues. We already heard from Ben and Heath. This could hurt Kerryon Johnson because Ty Johnson's more suited than C.J. Anderson to catch passes. Dallas safety Xavier Woods is out four to six weeks. Minka Fitzpatrick is going to play safety for Pittsburgh. Freddie Kitchens says Baker Mayfield is taking too many hits.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Maybe he needs to get the ball out a little bit earlier. Maybe we need Jarvis Landry to run some shorter routes, Ben. I know that's something you want to talk about. We'll try to get to that segment in a bit, but right now let's talk about the Jaguars hosting the Titans on Thursday night football. This should be an easy game to preview. Which running back do you like better? Which DST do you like better? Let's start with the running backs, Heath, Leonard Fournette, or Derek Henry. These guys are really, really close for me this week. I'm not even sure who has a more difficult matchup.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I love the fact that Fournette has been used so much in the passing game. I do definitely prefer him in any format where you're getting points for catches. Half PPR, full PPR, quarter PPR, double PPR. It doesn't matter. I take leonard fournette in that format um because i don't know that derrick henry is even going to catch a pass but in if you're talking non-ppr i might just take henry because i think he might have a little more production on the ground and just a little bit more likely to score a touchdown than Fournette is. So Heath has Fournette around 12th and Dave and Jamie
Starting point is 00:37:27 have him 17th, 18th in non-PPR and 16th in PPR for Jamie, 14th for Dave. Ben, do you think Fournette might be something less than a must-start guy? I mean, look, he's top 20. I get that.
Starting point is 00:37:43 But do you see a reason to maybe get away from Fournette? No, I would blame him. I mean, they're at home. I think he hit it on the head. Fournette is playing way too many snaps for you to sit him. He played, I think, over 90% of the snaps last week. Didn't have a great rushing game again, and maybe won't as long as garter minishu's
Starting point is 00:38:06 in there be very efficient on the ground but he's going to get targets if they trail especially he got three in the fourth quarter when they were in comeback mode on sunday excuse me four targets three catches in the fourth quarter ended up with four catches for 40 yards especially in ppr if you're you know you're he had 12 and a points, I believe it was, in PPR. That was like a floor game. He ran for like 3.5 yards a carry and got some targets late. He's involved in every facet of the game.
Starting point is 00:38:34 He's a guy that I think you have to play. We'll start it like Austin Eckler over them. I'm trying to think of guys who were drafted later. Yeah, you're starting Austin Eckler over him. Okay. I'd start Carson over himler over him. Okay. Yeah. I'd start Carson over him.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Chris Carson. Okay. Over Fournette or over both? I would not. Carson lost snaps and lost two fumbles and lost quite a few snaps because of it, and I'm a little bit concerned that that's going to cost him some more snaps going forward. Okay. Let's go to the wide receivers, and then we'll do the DSTs and Delaney Walker.
Starting point is 00:39:07 But you've got D.D. Westbrook, who's 83% owned, D.J. Chark, 42%, Chris Conley, 4%. So far, Tennessee's been pretty good against wide receivers. Beckham had 7 for 71. Landry had 4 for 67. T.Y. Hilton had 4 for 43 and a touchdown. So would you start any wide receivers in this game? I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Okay, you don't have to. Yeah, I don't really either. I don't really want to either. I think you can play Westbrook. Like Nelson Aguilar would be better than all of them? Yeah, but Nelson Aguilar is going to be really good. How about both of the Chiefs waiver wire wide receivers, Hardman and Robinson? I wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I would not. I would. Why not? I don't. Heath? I don't. That's not going to happen very often at all. The more likely situation is that one of them is.
Starting point is 00:39:59 That happens every week Patrick Mahomes plays. No, it doesn't. Sammy Watkins and Travis Kelsey are going to score touchdowns this week. The far more likely situation is that one of Robinson or Hardman is not going to score four fantasy points this week. They do have huge ceilings. I agree with that. Patrick Mahomes
Starting point is 00:40:15 set a career high in air yards last week. I agree with you. That's not going to happen every week. He was chucking them all around even more than usual. Since the beginning of last year, they've not been near as aggressive at home. Now maybe that will change in their first home game, but they have been far more aggressive. My home's has like 10 straight games on the road with three touchdown
Starting point is 00:40:34 passes. He had a game last year at home where he didn't even throw a touchdown pass. So I, I'm not as excited about Hardman and Robinson as everyone else was. I think I got one of them on the waiver wire this week. I just, I think they're going to be frustrating to know when to start.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Would you start Matt Breida over any wide receiver in this Tennessee-Jacksonville game? Over any wide receiver? Yeah, I think, I don't know that I would play any of these receivers over Matt Breida. Yeah. In non-PPR, I would certainly start Matt Breida over all of the wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I'm trying to look. In PPR, it might be relatively close. Yeah, I'd rather start D.D. Westbrook than I would Breida in PPR. And I made a tweet about this that was half a joke and half a nod to Ben and half serious about Matt Breida's usage because it was kind of a conflict between Matt Brita and the trap concept. Brita's touches were not the type of touches that Ben prefers, and I think Ben's right about that. I'm not sure I'm getting anything out of that game, though, because it was a blowout, and then Jeff Wilson got those high-value touches, but they were in like a 20-something point game in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:41:42 No, no, no, no, no. His first high-value touches, two red zone carries, came before the game was a blowout. His second one came with like 14 minutes left in the game, I believe when it was a 17-point game. Okay, that's a blowout. He got nine of his 10 carries in the fourth quarter. He got the other one with the last play of the third quarter, or maybe there was one earlier than that for Jeff Wilson.son but pretty much all of wilson's work earlier his earlier touchdown
Starting point is 00:42:08 came right after that highlight matt brita run where he where brita looked like he was going to get tackled on the backfield made a ton of ridiculous cutbacks and gained like 34 yards and then he needed a breather so i i don't know if i'm reading that much into that he had two first half carries inside the 10-yard line. Which Ben just told you about. I'm not taking too much out of it. He had another carry in the third quarter that was in the red zone. He had another carry in the first play
Starting point is 00:42:34 of the fourth quarter in the red zone. It's two. It's one game. It's one game. I think the score has something to do with it. All right. So, anyway, Frank Gore. Okay, let's finish up on this. I hate this game. This game sucks. Frank Gore or a wide receiver in this game? All the wide receivers. I will never play a 36-year-old running back.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I refuse to. You know, I played Adrian Peterson in DFS last week. I'm going to play a little bit of Frank Gore this week. It's the year of the old guy. Tom Brady's going to be a top three quarterback. Larry Fitzgerald's going to be a top 10 wide receiver again. You've got to stop hating on the old guys. In PPR, I'd rather play any of the receivers.
Starting point is 00:43:09 In non-PPR, I'd rather play Frank Gore. That's contingent on Singletary being out? He didn't need Singletary to be out last week. I'm asking. No. No? Okay. Delaney Walker, seventh for Jamie, seventh for Heath, tenth for Daveave uh you you've got mark andrews and darren waller over delaney walker but you've got him over greg olson so that's interesting and tj
Starting point is 00:43:33 hawkinson and we'll just wrap with that and then the dsts i'll give the rankings uh yeah quick thoughts on until lady walker it's fine. Start him. Okay. Yeah. Which DST? This game is awful. The Titans are a low-volume pass offense with a ton of options. A.J. Brown is legit. Corey Davis is still there.
Starting point is 00:43:57 They designed short targets and a run play for Adam Humphreys last week to try to get him more involved. Delaney Walker is the one you can trust the most for two reasons. One, he's probably going to be the best. And two, he plays tight end. So, you know, he's a little bit more valuable in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:44:12 But I don't want any players on that offense or in that passing game. I don't want any players in the Jacksonville passing game. This game has like a 39 over under and I expect it to go under. I mean, I think this is going to be a really gross game. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:24 All right. And I think you could look at the Packers maybe. Not for Heath. Are you very low on the Packers DST or am I just not seeing them? Yeah, you need to move the Packers up. They're 22nd.
Starting point is 00:44:37 You got to move them up. They've had two good games so far. I'm not that interested in them. These DSTs are both top 12. Titans and Jaguars. you know like the bills maybe you pick them up david dave and jamie have the packers ahead of the jaguars whatever you can look at the rankings but i don't i don't yeah go ahead i don't see any reason to get worried about the defenses if we don't want to play anybody on the offenses. Yeah. Jacksonville's DST hasn't really been that good. But they're at home on a short week.
Starting point is 00:45:09 This is the dream setup for defenses. I don't think they forced a turnover yet. Tennessee has been good so far. Eight sacks, four picks in two games. Okay, we're done. That game is over. We are not talking about that game anymore. Instead, let's regulate.
Starting point is 00:45:25 All right, here we go. From Bill. We started a Dynasty League using a new platform, and our typical score setting and standard in just about every league is minus two points for a fumble lost. However, the app that we use, the default scoring is minus three points for a fumble lost. However, the app that we use, the default scoring is minus three points for a fumble lost. In Monday Night Football last night, or Monday night, between the Jets and the Browns, Le'Veon Bell fumbled in the final moments of the game, which caused me to go down by less than a
Starting point is 00:45:56 point. I noticed that I lost negative three for the fumble instead of negative two. The scoring settings were supposed to be just minus two for a fumble. So I messaged the commissioner and he changed the score settings right away during the Monday night football game. This resulted in me then winning by less than a point. Obviously, the other manager realized the scoring was changed during the game. And now a few people in the league are in uproar over the scoring change. I believe that the rule change should be in effect and I should get the W. And the updated league scoring
Starting point is 00:46:26 should retroactively apply to week one as well, which actually does not affect any outcomes in week one. Basically, should they retroactively change week two because the scoring setting was not what they thought it was? It was minus three for fumbles instead of minus two. They had been under the assumption that it was minus two. This affects the outcome of a game. Ben, regulate.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Yeah, I mean, I think if you change platforms and you already had all of your settings that you were doing for several years and you didn't necessarily go through with a fine-tooth comb and do a full audit on your scoring system and make sure that everything was exactly right, but there was never any discussion of changing something as weird as as a fumble lost to to be worth uh more i guess worth less worth more against you than before then then yeah i think this is totally fine it was just a mistake
Starting point is 00:47:19 a situation that comes up uh i don't think you should be expected to notice this change. And I don't think just because a different platform had different default settings that you should be expected to change your rules to fit them when that wasn't the intention. So I think this is really obvious. You should change it. Yeah, Ben is correct, but his interpretation of the issue is incorrect. And so, Exhibit A, we start the email with, we started a Dynasty League using a new platform. This is not, by understanding,
Starting point is 00:47:52 a situation where they have had a league going on, had scoring settings, and then went to and moved it to a different platform. They started a Dynasty League using a new platform. But they thought it was minus two. They thought it was minus two.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It's always been minus two for a fumble. I don't care what you thought it was. There was never any, and I could be wrong about this, but assuming that my presumption that there was never any sort of communication sent from the commissioner saying it is negative two for a fumble lost and just everyone in the league had it in their head that it was negative two. What if some guys thought it was in the league had it in their head that it was negative two what if some guys thought it was negative one how would they have ever known they
Starting point is 00:48:30 probably went to the rule page and looked to see how much it was and it saw it was negative three it may have been the reason they didn't draft lamar jackson because they were worried about him fumbling too much you started a league these the rules. You can't change the rules in the middle of the week because you don't like the rules that your stupid commissioner set up and your commissioner should be fined for this. Oh, wow. Okay. I saw I was incorrect. Right. You're not agreeing with him on anything. What's that? No. Yeah. You said I was correct, but you're actually saying I'm incorrect. No, I, I, I agree with you had your interpretation of the question been correct, but it was not. And I agree with you and your interpretation as well.
Starting point is 00:49:13 That's pretty good regulating right there. So you think that the results stand, that Le'Veon Bell loses three points for the fumble? The results stand. And this was never discussed. He's absolutely right. Someone might have went in and looked at the settings. I read this as they already had a league, and everyone knew what the scoring was. If this is a brand-new league, these are the rules.
Starting point is 00:49:35 There you go. It's been regulated. Sorry about that. I thought for sure that we were going to get an overturn there, but we most certainly did not. All right. Look at my face on YouTube, youtube.com slash fantasy football today. I desperately need a shave. Okay. And I'm going to use, and this is the truth, Harry's razors. I have a Harry's razor and it really truly is the best blade I've used. It's just better, okay? I'm not going to get into, you know, oh, it's this amazing shave experience. Like, you're shaving, okay?
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Starting point is 00:51:31 Please check it out. We've got your iTunes reviews, your emails, your tweets, uh, look at the most traded list and some more regulation coming right up. All right. So,
Starting point is 00:51:40 you know, we got to talk about Lamar Jackson. I guess we did. We got to talk about Austin Eckler. What is Austin Eckler's trade value right now, Heath Cummings? That of a top 12 running back? Because I think he's probably going to be top six until Melvin Gordon returns,
Starting point is 00:51:55 and then he's going to be somewhere in the range of 24 to 30 after Melvin Gordon returns. There may even be a week or two in between there where they're working Gordon in, and so week or two in between there where they're working gordon in and and so he's like somewhere in between those two ranges but if i'm looking at four or five more weeks of a top six running back and then someone i'm starting as a low end number two or flex after that then uh then i'd say he's a top 12 guy then that sounded high right away when you said that and then i heard heard your case and I completely agree.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Austin Eckler's workload right now is probably the most valuable in the entire NFL. I mean, it's it's right there. It might not be on the same level as Christian McCaffrey's, but McCaffrey obviously wasn't used very heavily in week two. He's getting an insane amount of high value touches. He had a long screen pass. I think it was a 20, at least a 22 yarder that was called back due to a hold. He had a long screen pass. I think it was at least a 22-yarder that was called back due to a hold. He fumbled at the goal line.
Starting point is 00:52:49 He very nearly had another multi-touchdown game in week two. It was like a disappointing outcome for him. And he was still over 20 PPR points. Yeah, so if you were going to sell high on Eckler because you fear the Melvin Gordon thing. Also, there is still a chance that Melvin Gordon gets traded, which would be amazing for Eckler, you know, because you fear the Melvin Gordon thing. Also, there is still a chance that Melvin Gordon gets traded, which would be amazing
Starting point is 00:53:07 for Eckler, but if you were going to sell him, I'm going to give you a name. Would you sell Eckler for Leonard Fournette? Yes. Yes? That's so close. That's right where I'd value him.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I might even go as far as to say that depends on your record. How about Aaron Jones? To finish his point real quick, if you're 0-2, you should keep Eckler. If you're 2-0, yeah, you probably go for Fournette. Who did you say? Aaron Jones? I would take Eckler over Aaron Jones.
Starting point is 00:53:44 The Packers last week, Jones had a breakout game but he still only got 69 of the running back touches jamal williams was heavily involved the packers got 39 touches for their running backs which is tied for the second most in a game so far this year the the niners huge game against cincinnati in week two is the only game where a team had more than that more running back touches in that combined so a big reason jones got so many touches was because the team was in a huge positive game script and got so many touches to the position. But he still gave up more than 30% of the touches to Jamal Williams. Okay. Heath, the top two players on the most traded list are Antonio Brown and Josh Gordon. What do you suspect going forward?
Starting point is 00:54:26 Expect going forward? Yeah, I would be, if I had Antonio Brown on a team, I would be trying to sell him. I don't, if you were telling me he plays the rest of the season with the Patriots, does not miss a game,
Starting point is 00:54:40 and does not have any problems, then I'd probably rank him as a borderline top 12 wide receiver rest of season. But there's so much uncertainty that I would be very, very happy if I could trade him for a top 18 guy. I wonder if you could trade Antonio Brown for Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Yeah, well, Mike Evans is third on the most traded list. Stefan Diggs is fourth. Darren Waller and TJ Hawkinson are fifth and sixth. And Ben, I'll let you talk about them. Waller and Hawkinson, who would you rather have rest of season? Oh, Waller by a pretty considerable amount too. I think that offense will probably throw more and he's locked in as the second receiving option or maybe like the one B to to tyrell williams they got hunter run for a little bit more involved this week but through two weeks it's really clear that it's williams and waller that are their main guys obviously car targeted jared cook a ton last year made him a i
Starting point is 00:55:37 think a top six uh tight end in both formats definitely like waller hawkinson I don't dislike, but he's in a lower volume offense. There's more target options. Danny Amendola, like I mentioned earlier in the show, had a bigger week one game even. They just had a lot of volume going around, and he can be that kind of golden tape option and steal some targets. I think Hawkinson's week two was like,
Starting point is 00:56:00 he went from a best case week one to like a worst case week two, and he'll still be fine, but he's not on Waller's level. Okay targets and two games for darren waller and yeah who else are they going to throw to so let's read some emails some tweets and some itunes reviews and we'll finish with the regulators this one comes from jason dear damian leshawn darwin and daryl should we be stashing daryl williams we don't know the status of damian williams or leshawn mccoy but who's to say daryl williams doesn't get enough work to be an RB2 or a flex? Last year, we were all on the
Starting point is 00:56:29 Spencer Ware train, and then Damian Williams became the guy. Heath? I think if it was a, like we're talking about week three, we find out both Damian Williams and LaShawn McCoy are out, I would anticipate more touches in the game for Daryl Williams. He doesn't have the same upside that Darwin Thompson does. I'm not sure he's going to get the same high-value touches that Darwin Thompson does. The bigger problem is that if we're talking about LaShawn McCoy and Damian Williams being out, this team, for the most part, has not done a very good job generating push with their offensive line in the running game, and they face the Baltimore Ravens.
Starting point is 00:57:04 So I'm not sure I would want to start him anyway. In a PPR league, this is from John in California. In a PPR league, would you play Devin Smith against Miami or Will Fuller at the Chargers if your opponent is starting Dak Prescott? Would you get Cowboys receiver Devin Smith or Will Fuller? Devin Smith's an interesting GPP play in D in DFS certainly I mean he got a couple targets after Gallup went out and he had the long touchdown before when Gallup was still in the game
Starting point is 00:57:30 but there's no way you should be starting him over Will Fuller keep the faith with Will Fuller he's very good he's playing over 90% of the snaps still even with Kiki Cutie's return uh Cutie and Stills kind of rotated snaps Fuller was still a full-time guy fully expect him to still have a good year yeah I don't know that there will be much difference between the two of them personally, but I'm not as high on Will Fuller as Ben is. I do think that Will Fuller is very good. I am encouraged by the number of snaps he's playing. I kind of view him as a rich man version of what I said about the Chiefs wide receivers. I don't ever know when those five targets are going to mean 130 yards and two touchdowns
Starting point is 00:58:07 and when they're going to mean three catches for 50 yards and no touchdowns. But I mean, DeAndre Hopkins also had a down game last week. How often do you think that Deshaun Watson is going to throw for under 200 yards? That was a rare game. Right. No, it was a rare game. But this is just, I just, the difference is
Starting point is 00:58:23 DeAndre Hopkins is going to get double-digit targets every week. Okay. I don't see Will Fuller, if everyone's healthy, getting more than six hardly ever. Next up, Brandon. Non-PPR, Brita or Fournette? What? Yeah, Fournette. Fournette.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Okay, from Kevin. I was listening to the Sunday Night Podcast while driving to work, and I felt compelled to pull over and email you after hearing the Devin Singletouch nickname to recommend that you switch it to Devin Single Carry instead. Heath, you cool with that? Excellent. Yeah, it's a big upgrade.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Big upgrade, Heath. Terrible. Singletouch was terrible. That was Jamie. How did you leave that on the table? Single Carry. It was Jamie? Jamie was the one that said it
Starting point is 00:59:07 Then I'll yell at Jamie tomorrow 2QB League Would you drop Kirk Cousins for Daniel Jones, Gardner, Minshew, or Mason Rudolph? This is from Joel That's a great question Kirk Cousins looked bad He's not going to throw a lot. He's going to have some decent games, but what's the upside in that offense?
Starting point is 00:59:31 I think Daniel Jones has plenty of upside, and I might drop him for Daniel Jones. Who were the three? Minshew, Jones, and Rudolph. I have both Minshew and Jones ranked higher than Cousins this week. Daniel Jones, Sterling Shepard better play. If Sterling Shepard does not play, then Daniel Jones is not going to have a good game. They have the worst receivers in football without Sterling Shepard.
Starting point is 00:59:55 And I know Shepard's not amazing, but he is compared to the other guys. Yeah, but Jones can move a little bit. He might run for 50 yards. Maybe. Maybe he could. All right, from – for 50 yards. Maybe. Maybe he could. From, let's see, Nick. I have Mixon and Henry. So,
Starting point is 01:00:13 who can I grab off waivers? Who should I grab off waivers in PPR? Mostert, Hyde, Peyton Barber, or Gore? Hyde or Mostert, but I think, you know, when we're talking about off waivers, Hyde or Mostert, but I think when we're talking about off-wavers, Hyde did play a lot.
Starting point is 01:00:31 He looks like their feature back. I don't love the touch mix that he's getting. It's just all low-value rushes, but 20 carries. He's going to get touches. Question here from iTunes. Should I stop starting Stefanfan diggs as my
Starting point is 01:00:45 wide receiver too my other options are alan robinson and larry fitzgerald i'd much rather start larry fitzgerald this week okay yeah i mean those are both good options i do want to talk about digs for a quick second one catch on seven targets it was a long touchdown he also had an uncharacteristic drop that was a little bit high in behind him. That would have been a big play. Kirk Cousins missed him on like a 50 yard pass where he was wide open on a huge third down in the fourth quarter. It could have had another big play. And he had that touchdown right before half overturned because of the review that was called offensive pass interference that pretty much everyone has declared shouldn't have been overturned. He was very close to like a 25 point PPR day.
Starting point is 01:01:25 If he gets a couple more of those big plays. This is from iTunes as well. Give up Hopkins. No, no. Give up Carson cooks and AJ green. Carson cooks and AJ green. Get mixing Hopkins and James Washington. Ooh, that's a lot.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Say it again. You give up Carson cooks and AJ, and A.J. Green. You get Mixon, Hopkins, and James Washington. I don't like it. I like getting Hopkins in that deal, actually. I think I do like it. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I think you could almost call Carson and Mixon a wash right now.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Okay, if you did that, then you're giving up Brandon Cooks and A.J. Green for Hopkins and James Washington. I don't think I like that. Did you talk about the A.J. Green quote yesterday on the podcast? Uh-uh. He basically said he wasn't sure
Starting point is 01:02:17 where everyone got the six- to eight-week timetable from the time he got hurt and that it was definitely going to be longer than that. Oh, God. I did not even see that i it um it was tweeted by um john daigle who works for roto world and this quote from aj green i don't know where reporters got six to eight weeks from it's going
Starting point is 01:02:39 to be longer than that it's just one of those things that has to heal on its own. Yikes. Okay, then I would do this trade. But we are at seven weeks. Like you said, Heath, it's from when the injury occurred that the question was referencing. Well, then I won't do this trade because he's still within the timetable we thought. I don't know. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:02:59 It makes me think he's not coming back before week four. That's fine. So would you give up Cooks and Green for Hopkins and Washington? I'll take the Hopkins side. Yeah, I would too. I think Hopkins is that good. Brandon Cooks is good, but yeah, I think you'd take the Hopkins side. James Washington has upside with Mason Rudolph.
Starting point is 01:03:18 They played together in college. I mean, Dante Moncrief got benched. He's not a nothing. This week, the James Washington played with Mason Rudolph in college thing is definitely going to become the Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard thing. All right. This is the last one from iTunes. Give up Wentz, Hilton, and Tariq Cohen.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Wentz, Hilton, and Cohen. Get Mayfield, Eckler, Melvin Gordon, and Sterling Shepard. I do that. Yeah, that one's a good one. Yeah. Yes. Don't sigh. I can't even remember who all the players were.
Starting point is 01:03:55 You got Eckler. That's all that matters. You got Eckler. He wins the trade. And Melvin Gordon. I know it's a quarterback downgrade, though. I mean, when's the Mayfield? It looks like a downgrade right now.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Alright, we're going to end the show with, I just think, a very sad situation, guys. I don't even know how to do it. I shouldn't even play the music because I'm so sad. From Anthony. I'm in a 10-team league with
Starting point is 01:04:21 my best buds in the world. That's kind of what makes this so difficult. Our commissioner was selected by all of us to take on his role six years ago because he was the most obvious pick to run this league the way it should be. We all take fantasy very seriously. Money is involved. A lot of time is given. And even in the offseason, we can't stop talking about it.
Starting point is 01:04:43 That being said, I host about 14 to 18 people at my house every Sunday. It's my football family. Most of the guys in the league are in attendance weekly. This past Sunday, I was matched up against the commissioner, my cousin. Sunday morning, we went golfing before the 1 o'clock games, and the whole time, we
Starting point is 01:05:00 talked fantasy, who to start, etc., etc. He was very concerned about who to flex against me. He wouldn't stop talking about it. His options were Josh Gordon, Kerryon start, etc., etc. He was very concerned about who to flex against me. He wouldn't stop talking about it. His options were Josh Gordon, Kerryon Johnson, and John Brown. I, too, was stressing on who to start, Antonio Brown or James White. We both laughed as we assumed we both were going to make mistakes
Starting point is 01:05:16 and start the wrong guy. So we get to my house. Food's on the table. The 1 o'clock games start. Fantasy points are going everywhere. We're all by our phones refreshing to see every point scored. It's a tight matchup between us. As we're eating, the commissioner shouts at me as Karyon Johnson gets a touchdown. He
Starting point is 01:05:31 says, oh great, Karyon got a touchdown. As soon as he said that, I instantly opened the matchup to see if he started him over the others, and he did not. He started Josh Gordon who was at zero points. Karyon had 13.5 points at the time. We continue to watch. More points come here and there, and our matchup is still close. It was a
Starting point is 01:05:51 point where we both had around 50 points. The commissioner then asked me to use my computer quickly for a work-related thing. I said, of course. I signed him in, and I left him at the computer. As the games went on, I'm still refreshing my phone like a hawk watching points then it happened out of nowhere his team jumped up by a 13.5 point margin we were watching red zone and i would have known if someone broke off for a big touchdown but nothing happened he was still sitting there by the computer i then scrolled through our matchup and i noticed that josh gordon was on his bench and carry onion Johnson was in his flex spot. I knew, I knew, I knew his flex situation based off how much he talked about it during golf,
Starting point is 01:06:30 how he pointed out Karrion's touchdown with no celebration, and just because I've been watching our matchup all day. I called him out in front of everyone claiming he made the swap behind everyone's back after Karrion got a touchdown and Gordon was sitting at zero points. He refused. He denied
Starting point is 01:06:45 everything. He said he had him in his lineup the whole time. And that's why he pointed out carry on Johnson's touchdown, which in fact put him in his grave because that's the call out that made me check if he started him or not in the first place. I was fuming. We all take it seriously. I knew he tampered with his lineup. I was going back and forth, calling him out in front of all the other guys, because I'm really the only one who could defend myself here. After he kept the front up for an hour, he finally turned around and said, okay, sign me back into your computer.
Starting point is 01:07:11 He admitted to making the change because he claimed he thought he started carry on. And when he saw the touchdown, he checked his lineup and somehow he wasn't there, which was BS considering how much thought he put into the lineup. He did the right thing and he made the change, but he claimed that he had John Brown in and not Josh Gordon. So he put into the lineup. He did the right thing, and he made the change, but he claimed that he had John Brown in and not Josh Gordon.
Starting point is 01:07:29 So he put John Brown in. I was shocked enough that he admitted to it that I simply said, whatever, man, put John Brown in when I knew he started Gordon. Anyway, I would have won no matter who he started, but we cannot think of a punishment for this dishonest commissioner. Those are my words. Maybe he gets 10th waiver priority for next four weeks. He must post a screenshot of his lineup every week, and he must
Starting point is 01:07:49 put Gordon back into his lineup for overall points scored. Please help us regulate. How is this guy the clear-cut best option to be your commissioner? How shady are everyone else in the league? This is bad. Step one. We'll figure out the punishment later. This is bad. Step one, before, like,
Starting point is 01:08:05 we'll figure out the punishment later. This is not a punishment. This is just an integrity of the league matter. This guy must immediately lose his commissioner privileges. I don't care who the commissioner is. It will not be him. Ever. As soon as he's not commissioner,
Starting point is 01:08:22 I would kick his ass out of the league. I know you would. Assuming you don't want to do that, I would probably give him a postseason ban. Whoa. Really? You really, really would do that? What's more serious than this?
Starting point is 01:08:36 This is his cousin. This is his cousin. Yeah. I understand. I support it. I don't disagree. I support it. I think this is a cut.
Starting point is 01:08:44 If he wasn't arguing with him for an hour, the slides, like you can't let this kind of thing happen. He had to really fight it before the guy finally admitted it. And he still lied. And he still cheated, right? He went with John Brown. Unbelievable. This is an egregious fantasy offense. And I agree.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I think it's a borderline kick out of the league thing. I like he's postseason being it because if he turns around and wins money in this money league this year, that would be a really tough pill for everyone else to swallow. You are out of the postseason, cousin. You are out. And you better
Starting point is 01:09:19 still set a lineup and take it seriously. Don't you go tanking. Because then we're kicking you out of the league. And out of the family. Thanks for listening, everybody. We are the regulators. Wait, wait, wait. I thought of a much better punishment.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Okay. I'm taking it back. Every week, after the noon games, his opponent gets to make one lineup swap with his roster. They get to change one person in his roster. Can it just be the flex? In memory of what he did.
Starting point is 01:09:49 It has to just be the flex. No. It could be anything. Well, it can't be a quarterback. Could be anything. Literally, the best option that he had, the best performer he has every week would get benched. Nope.
Starting point is 01:10:02 That would be tough. All right, you guys decide in your league. Thanks, everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Are you a professional pillow fighter or a nine to five low cost time travel agent? Or maybe real estate sales on Mars is your profession. It doesn't matter.
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