Fantasy Football Today - 09/18: Waiver Wire; Gordon Trade (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 18, 2018

Who are our top Waiver Wire priorities this week (2:00)? It's Giovani Bernard ahead of the pack, but don't forget about Corey Clement, and the TB WRs lead a deep group of pass catchers. Also we discus...s Phillip Lindsay's value (10:00) and the Josh Gordon trade (11:15). We've got some sell high candidates after this trade! ... Big news around the NFL (16:00) and a recap of NYG-DAL and SEA-CHI (25:50). And it's Dropometer time (34:01)! ... Waiver Wire QBs (35:25) including Ryan Fitzpatrick and Andy Dalton, RBs (41:30) including Javorius Allen and Latavius Murray, WRs (44:00) including John Brown and Keelan Cole, TEs (51:48) including Will Dissly and O.J. Howard, DSTs (55:02) and Kickers as well. Plus Team Name Tuesday at the end of the show! ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Let's hit the waiver wire. Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and T. Well, it's not often that we start back-to-back episodes of Fantasy Football Today with the same question.
Starting point is 00:00:23 But let's do it. Who's the number one quarterback in fantasy now going forward, rest of season? Who's the number one quarterback? It's who everybody thought it would be. Patrick Mahomes. Aaron Rodgers. Sam Darnold.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Oh, no votes for Tom Brady? It was real close between Darnold and Mahomes. Well, of course. I mean, Darnold's number one. I guess I'm really asking who number two is. I thought maybe we got a little love for Brady. I think the better question is, is Eli Manning a quarterback sleeper?
Starting point is 00:00:56 I'm sorry, was that a dig at me? Yes. I'm in a bad mood this morning. Alright, good. Well, then I will steer clear. Eli Manning is still – I have a question. Even though the people in your league are listening, is it a fab budget for the People's League?
Starting point is 00:01:14 Yeah. So what are you going to bid on Carson Wentz? We're not. Wow. Oh, we're not? We'll just bid on Tyrod Taylor instead. We don't need a quarterback we have russell wilson yeah there's there are no problems with that offense all right guys let's uh let's we got a lot to talk about today we got
Starting point is 00:01:33 the recapping a couple games we got the waiver wire of course that's the primary thing that we're doing today and we'll of course talk about the josh gordon trade he's going to the patriots in all seriousness would you rather have br or Patrick Mahomes the rest of the season? Mahomes. Brady. Brady.
Starting point is 00:01:52 My schedule for Mahomes is going to look a little different the next few weeks. And then after that, it's going to go right back to being peachy keen. That's all. Well, then, give me your top three waiver wire priorities for Fantasy Week 3. Geo's at the top of the list for me. I just want to get a running back who's definitely going to start at least one game, maybe as many as four. And I haven't really thought about who number two or number three is
Starting point is 00:02:18 because I think it's number one with a bullet with Geo. Geo's one, Corey Clement is two, and then pick your favorite Tampa Bay receiver, three. For me, it's Godwin. Why Corey Clement? You think Ajayi's out this week? I think Darren Sproles is out. So we saw last week five catches for him. He's going to be involved in the passing game. And if Ajayi does happen to miss any time
Starting point is 00:02:37 with that back problem, then yes, Corey Clement will be a must-start guy. And he's flexible even if Ajayi plays. It's flexible even if Jai plays. It's strictly dependent on Sproles. If Sproles plays, then it's a different story. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:51 But I would just say Geo and then Clement and Buck Allen are basically tied. Okay. Yeah, and what we're going to say about Geo, you can basically just listen to what we said about Tevin Coleman. Giovanni Bernard last year without Joe Mixon, he had either, I think, 97 total yards or a touchdown in all three games. That includes the game in which Mixon got hurt. Also, going back...
Starting point is 00:03:15 He averaged 16.4 PPR points in the five games where he had at least 15 touches. Exactly, yeah. And in 2016, Bernard had 15 or more touches three times, and he scored 9, 8, and 14 points in non-PPR, and he had 11 catches in those three games. He had 87 or more total yards in all three games. So he is set for a big workload. He does have a tough matchup with Carolina this week, probably.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Maybe. But it doesn't really matter. It's like Tevin Coleman, who also had Carolina, right? It's just the workload we like. They are getting Thomas Davis back, so that makes them a little bit tougher. But, yeah, I think it's the workload and what he's done. He actually has 29 games in his career with at least 15 touches, and he's hit 10 or more PPR points in 23 of them.
Starting point is 00:03:57 So it's a nice floor. All right, so last week we said don't break the bank on anybody. Are we breaking the bank on Giovanni? I'm pretty excited to get Giovanni Bernard, guys. What are we doing here in terms of fab? He's definitely worth the number one waiver claim, right? Yes, yes, yes. He's worth the number one waiver claim.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And it really comes down to how badly you need a running back. If you're thin on running back and you need a guy, it's time to splurge a little bit. I'd be looking around 25%. I'd go higher. I'd go like 30. I put in the column 20-25%. I think it's going to be a two-week situation for him. If it's four weeks, then if you believe it's going to be four weeks, then spend more money. But Dave's right. I mean, if you need somebody for this week or for the next couple of weeks and your team is a little bit decimated, you've been playing the roulette game without Le'Veon Bell, it's not a bad situation
Starting point is 00:04:50 to try and guarantee yourself a starter. But you could also get the TJ Yeldon situation, where Yeldon was average, fantasy wise, and you probably overspent for him, too. May I ask a question? That's what we do here.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I would like to know the last time a running back came back from arthroscopic surgery during the season and played well not because i'm trying to make a judgment on joe mixon just because i have a lot of football in my mind and i forget these things oh well that wasn't really a question, Dave. In-season arthroscopic surgery and the player comes back and does well. You don't know the answer. Off the top of my head? Yeah, who knows that answer? That's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:05:36 There's a lot of smart people on this podcast. I'd figure at least Jamie or Heath would know. No, I don't. I don't usually hear... We don't usually get arthroscopic surgery. We usually get either season ending or no surgery. So I would imagine with today's medical technology being what it is, I'm going to trust what the reports are
Starting point is 00:05:53 and that he's going to come back in two weeks. I mean, I don't know the difference between him and Devontae Freeman's situation. I think the tricky part is they say it's two weeks, but he had the procedure on a Saturday. So I would lean more towards it's probably a three-week situation. When's their bye week? Their bye week is in week nine. That's not going to matter.
Starting point is 00:06:15 No. Well, all right. So, okay, let me just wrap it up. Are you concerned that – well, from the Giovanni Bernard perspective, are you thinking there's a chance that even when joe mixon comes back he's going to be a guy where it's starting or this is only someone that we're starting while mixon is out you're only starting him on for now but that's built in here with geo is that if mixon comes back and re-injures himself comes back too quick or if
Starting point is 00:06:40 he like totally stinks then geo will have a chance believe it or not heath's dream will come true okay he will he will see giovanni bernard do well so i think there's there's built-in upside however small it is mixed in already with what you're going to get from geo as a starter the next couple weeks number two running back so to sum up our waiver wire priorities it's giovanni bernard it's the tamp Bay wide receivers, and it is Corey Clement and Buck Allen. And we have not said Ryan Fitzpatrick's name. And Fitzpatrick is widely available. He's owned in 21% of leagues, and he has the Steelers at home on Monday night.
Starting point is 00:07:17 How did he not make the list? He's not the top three. You wouldn't rather pick him up than, say, Chris Goblin? Do I need him? You might. I mean, say, Chris Goblin? Do I need him? You might. I mean, the Russell Wilson owner is probably thinking I need him. I mean, I have two leagues where I've been streaming quarterbacks to start the season, and I would still pick up those other three guys first
Starting point is 00:07:35 just because I don't know how many people are running to get Ryan Fitzpatrick. I may miss him, but I'd rather have those skill positions based on what we've seen from quarterback play. The one nice thing I can say about Fitzpatrick is that I highly doubt he will lose the starting job when Jameis comes back. Think so? At this point, he would have to have a Nathan Peterman game in order to lose the job at this point. It's not going to happen in week four because they have a short week on the road. So it makes no sense to force Jameis back on the field on a short week of practice.
Starting point is 00:08:05 But then there's their bye week. That's the situation where if he's awful this week and then awful again in week four at Chicago, then Jameis Winston's coming back after their bye week. It's not that short of a way. It's not a Thursday game. They're going from Monday night to Sunday. It's easy to justify because he will have been
Starting point is 00:08:21 at worst case 2-1. You could say, okay, Pittsburgh, wounded duck, coming in. They put up their best effort. Joe Hayden plays. You know, all these things that factor into it. And he just has a bad game. And they lose. And then you go to Chicago.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And if he loses again, then it's an easy thing for them to say, okay, Ryan, you got us off this 2-2 start. You were great. But it's Jameis' team. He's our franchise guy. And we're going back to him. You did hear Deshaun Jackson come out and say, which sometimes players don't always commit to a guy. He said, you can't sit him right now.
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Starting point is 00:09:51 CBS.com slash NFL to get a free trial of CBS All Access, and you can watch your local CBS game on your laptop, on your phone, whatever it is. Here's your stat of the day. Phillip Lindsey is the first undrafted player in the NFL with 100 yards from scrimmage in each of his first two games. First undrafted player in NFL history with 100 yards from scrimmage in each of his first two games. Thank you to the AP for that stat. Have we given you credit for Phillip Lindsey? Yeah, I mean, I get credit for a guy that I didn't draft in any leagues. Way to go. Thank you, though.
Starting point is 00:10:26 So, Phillip Lindsey, if you were drafting again today, would you draft him ahead of Royce Freeman? I think you have to. No. I think you do. He's going to get just as much work. He's faster. And he can work in passing situations better than Royce Freeman.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Heath, you want to break the tie? I don't think I would, but they would be back-to-back or very, very close. They would be closer, yes. I would still take Freeman because game script is going to be important here, and I don't think the Broncos are going to be chasing points against teams like the Raiders very often. Would you look to sell Philip Lindsay right now, or would you be afraid that you just sold the 2018 version of Alvin Kamara or something like that? What are the offers?
Starting point is 00:11:09 Okay. Julian Edelman. If I needed a receiver and it's a PPR league, then yes, I'm doing that. I don't know if I would trade him for Josh Gordon. All right. Let's go right into it. The big news, the Patriots got Josh Gordon for a fifth round pick. Patriots will get back a seventh round pick if Gordon is not active for 10 games and he'll be a restricted free agent after
Starting point is 00:11:29 this season the Patriots release Corey Coleman they will be at Detroit on Sunday night and here we go all right what's the impact break it down Patriots get Josh Gordon to me this feels a lot like the Le'Veon Bell situation because i don't think you can have a very good uh certain take josh gordon could be a top five wide receiver he could be six on the patriots death chart it's all going to depend on whether he can get to new england get with the program and stay out of trouble um from the trades that i've seen on Twitter over the last 24 hours, if I was a Josh Gordon owner, I would be listening to offers. Because people are getting a lot for him.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah? Okay. How come? Because think about what has to go right in order for him to be great for your fantasy team. He's got to know what he's doing on the field. He's got to be smart on
Starting point is 00:12:26 and off the field and he's got a how many targets can he reliably get each game this he is not randy moss and it's not even the same situation as when randy moss was there it's not i will the only thing i would argue against there is if he shows up and gets in good graces i think he can get as many targets as he wants i think he could be brandon cooks and cooks was a top 10 wide receiver last year i feel like the patriots have been trying to find that deep threat receiver that speed receiver on the outside in part so that they can get things open underneath for brady and if they don't have that guy well they had in cooks last year i don't know underneath for Brady. And if they don't have that guy. Well, they had in Cooks last year.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I don't know why they let him go because they don't want to pay him. That's why they let him go. And they got two first-round picks for him. And now they're not going to – and now they don't have to pay Gordon for two years, right? He's a restricted free agent after this year. So it makes sense why they went and got Gordon. I don't know if he can be Brandon Cooks. We have a great article on our website, seven cast-offs that the Patriots turned into treasure.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Moss is one of them. Chris Hogan is one of them. Laguerre Blount, Corey Dillon, Aqib Tlaib, Wes Welker. Missing one. But there were some failures. Tim Wright was a failure. Albert Hainsworth was a failure. Chad Johnson, Kenny Britt, Michael Floyd.
Starting point is 00:13:45 So not everything they touch turns to gold. It's such a smart move on their part. Well, rank the Patriots wide receivers now going forward. From week three on? Yeah. Edelman, one. Gordon, two. Hogan, three.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Anyone disagree? I think in PPR That's the way to go In non-PPR I'm not sure if I'd say that In non-PPR I'd have to give it some thought Yeah
Starting point is 00:14:16 If Josh Gordon gets with the program He's number one in both formats for me Is that an easy if? Oh, no. There's numerous hurdles for him to jump over. So I know Hogan caught two touchdowns. That was wonderful. But he had three catches on Sunday, and he played out of the slot.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I don't know how much he's going to play out of the slot when Edelman's back. Very true. Is Hogan – are you concerned? I'm kind of concerned. I have a lot – are you concerned? I'm kind of concerned. I have a lot of Chris Hogan. I'm not not concerned. Put it that way. I would take just about anything I could get for him.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I've got him and Gordon worth the same on the trade chart, and they're both ahead of Edelman in non-PPR. They're ahead of him in PPR too. No effect on Gronk, right? No. He's still good. Well, this is really interesting, and we will see how it plays out. It also means more opportunities for Antonio Callaway.
Starting point is 00:15:12 We already talked about that, but he's on the waiver wire list. The one thing with Gordon, though, is how healthy will he be over the course of the season? Because he's already had a hamstring strain. Not playing in such a long time, that wears on your body. I love the idea of selling hot on him. You have to. Love it. He had a hamstring strain at a promotional shoot too.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Staying healthy with the limited amount of work that he's gotten in the last five years basically. Five years or so. 2013, was that when he had his big year? Yeah. Everybody's been chasing 2013 You have to come to grips with the reality that We might never see that again from him Alright so it's a busy show And I want to make sure we get to all the waiver wire stuff
Starting point is 00:15:54 Tom Brady This is Can't be a downgrade for him that's for sure So who is where does he I'm sorry Where is Tom Brady rest of season where would you rank him Top three. Yep. Top two to be specific.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Rodgers, Brady. Mahomes, Brady. No way. Yeah. Over Rodgers? Because of the knee? No, it is on the trade chart. I think Mahomes' value is too rich right now. Because of the knee with Rodgers?
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah. I mean, that concerns me a little bit. Sell high on Mahomes, too. All right. Antonio Brown is angry. Antonio Brown is angry. He's also the fastest player to 750 receptions in NFL history. Do you think Antonio Brown owners are maybe in panic mode right now? Could we take advantage of that?
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yes. I don't see them being in panic mode. The interesting thing is I don't, like, if he's angry with the reporter, that's fine. That's not a reporter. It's a former PR guy for the team. But he's got 33 targets in two games. The problem is not how much he's getting the ball. The problem is what's happened when they've thrown it to him.
Starting point is 00:17:02 He's averaging below nine yards per reception, and his catch rate's way down to 54%. Roethlisberger's been bad throwing the ball down the field. And I told you this on Sunday. I was watching the games with Brian McFadden and he says, here comes the pouting, here comes the pouting. And they keep showing him on the sidelines and he looks upset. And then you get this tweet. They're not trading him. Things will get worked out. He and Roethlisberger have a very good relationship and a good rapport. But there is some buy low ability here. You'd have to turn something great into it or a package of great significance to get him. But if somebody drafted great receivers and they don't have good running backs
Starting point is 00:17:38 or are looking to get Mahomes, for example, you could probably make that trade happen. Would you either have Antonio Brown or Michael Thomas rest of the season? That's a great question. Thomas looks so good. That is an easy question, and it is obviously Antonio Brown. There is no reason. There's just no reason to get away from Antonio Brown. I mean, Adam, in theory, you're right,
Starting point is 00:17:56 but the production from what he's doing in that offense is basically what Antonio Brown usually gives you. But that's why you want Antonio Brown, because that's what you get from him. We don't have Mark Ingram back yet. Does Michael Thomas catch a dozen passes per game? And they don't have Le'Veon Bell back yet either. Who cares? It's a two-week.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Who cares? Yeah, who cares if they have Le'Veon Bell? They gave James Conner 30 carries in week one. But they don't throw the ball to him like they throw to Le'Veon. But Antonio Brown has been amazing. He was on pace for like 1,900 yards last year with Le'Veon. Oh, he's fantastic, Adam. This is not a what have they done for me. So why would anybody jump ahead of Antonio Brown? Why would anybody jump ahead of Antonio Brown? But it's not a bad question to ask. Michael Thomas. No, it's a good question to ask.
Starting point is 00:18:41 He's getting a higher percentage of his team's targets. It's a good question to ask, but I just don't see a reason why Antonio – I just tried to tell you, and you talked over me. He's the number one – you loved Antonio Brown more than anyone you were taking Antonio Brown. I still love Antonio Brown. So what's your answer? Michael Thomas is getting 15 targets a game. Antonio Brown is getting 17. The difference is that Michael Thomas doesn't have a Juju Smith-Schuster to share targets and production with.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And I think that could be part of Antonio Brown's frustration is that he's so used to being the guy. And everybody loves Juju because he's so much fun. And now he's producing on the field like what Antonio Brown usually produces. I'm going to say I honestly don't think if you guys own Antonio Brown and somebody sent you a tradeoff for Michael Thomas for Antonio Brown, I don't think any of you would click accept. I think you would all reject it. And I think if we drafted again today, you all would take Brown number one. No, I agree with you wholeheartedly, but it's still not a bad talking point. Oh, it's a great question because it is a great question.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I think it's an easy answer even though it's a great question. What if Michael Thomas is having his third year breakout to be the best receiver in the league? He's still the fourth best receiver in the league at best. Maybe he's not the fourth best fantasy receiver, but there are three receivers who are definitely better than Michael Thomas. Is this the old A.J. Green's not an Odell Beckham class? A.J. Green is not an Odell Beckham class. Does anyone think he is?
Starting point is 00:19:56 Who would you rather have right now the rest of the season, Michael Thomas or Odell Beckham? Michael Thomas. Okay. There isn't a receiver other than Antonio Brown that you would take ahead of Michael Thomas. And with Brown, it's really close. Like they are back-to-back at the top.
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Starting point is 00:21:59 No. Okay. Cleveland signed Greg Joseph and Minnesota signed Andrew Bailey. How about Dan Bailey? Dan Bailey. They did not sign former relief pitcher Andrew Bailey. They signed Dan Bailey. How about Beetle Bailey?
Starting point is 00:22:15 And they've got Buffalo, so they should score a lot of points. So you definitely could pick up Dan Bailey. Jarvis Landry's dealing with a knee injury. Should be fine for Thursday's game, right? Yes. LaShawn McCoy has cracked rib cartilage. He may miss a game. He's going to miss him.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah, it's a shame at Minnesota you're not picking up Chris Ivory or Murphy, unless you're desperate. Dalvin Cook and Melvin Gordon, we expect them to play, right? Yes. Yep. Denver's going to ride the hot hand at running back. We already talked about that situation. Arizona head coach Steve Wilk said he will use David Johnson in the slot more.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Somebody said, oh, Fournette or David Johnson, somebody asked me yesterday. What would you guys do there, Fournette or Johnson? Johnson. Yep. He's healthy. Okay. Heath, what's wrong? What's going on, Heath?
Starting point is 00:23:04 You sound very sad Nothing's wrong at all He's excited for Carson Wentz day He's very excited It's Carson Wentz week Carson Wentz is starting this week We have a bunch of Eagles news Wentz is going to start against the Colts
Starting point is 00:23:16 Alshon Jeffrey is not going to play He's week to week And Mike Wallace is on Not going to be on IR But yet But he did break his leg So he's out for a while. I would love to know what the Browns' offers were for Josh Gordon.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Because it feels as if they settled. And they said all along, or at least the reports all along, were not trading within the conference. And of all teams, they trade him too. Like the team that rips you off all the time. I don't think anybody was offering much Because they came out on Saturday night And were like we're cutting them They're just idiots
Starting point is 00:23:49 Because clearly there was a market for him And they did not explore that market And so morons What do you mean? They traded him They traded him for a fifth round pick It's like the first time in the history of the NFL That a player who was going to be cut
Starting point is 00:24:05 was traded for as much as a fifth-round pick. Had they not made the announcement that we were releasing him, they may have gotten a fourth-round pick or maybe something better. Maybe. So I wonder what the offers were after, oh, wait, we can get him for nothing? It certainly didn't help his trade value, that's for sure. Jason Peters, left tackle for the Eagles. He has a hamstring strain.
Starting point is 00:24:27 He says he plans to play this week. Yeah, look, I mean, Peters is banged up. No Alshon Jeffrey, no Mike Wallace. I know he's not. I mean, it's still somebody in that passing game. Are you going to be comfortable starting Carson Wentz this week? No. He is in the 35 quarterbacks that are good for fantasy this week.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I have to be honest with you. I'm going to struggle finding six quarterbacks week in, week out for start set. Nope. You just have to raise the number of expectations for a top quarter. But it still doesn't matter because they still help your fantasy team. Not relative. No, I think it's got to be 25 at this point. 20 isn't good enough anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:05 25 and six points for passing touchdown leagues. Yes. You know, so far scoring is way up. It could always just be a two-week trend. You never know, right? Not with how the defenses are allowed to play right now. Right. I mean, that's part of it, but that's not everything.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Dan Marino would throw for 7,000 yards. That's not everything. In this era. Larry Fitzgerald has a hamstring injury. Do we expect him to play against the Bears? Yes. Yes, but they're going to test him out in practice. Well, because of the Gordon news,
Starting point is 00:25:37 and because I feel like we waited a little bit too long to get into the waiver wire last week, I'm going to spend a little less time on the Sunday and Monday games. I just want to make sure everybody gets the players that they need on the waiver wire tonight. So Giants and Seahawks, both losers.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Earmuffs. I already know. They suck. That honestly is one of the most fun things we've done. It was pretty funny. It was funny to watch you guys. Jamie said he would wave to me when he's ready for me to come back. But Jamie, like any good on-air personality, talks with his hands a little bit.
Starting point is 00:26:11 So he's sitting there talking to Heath, and he's doing this with his hand. I'm like, is that a wave or is that just conversation? It was pretty fun. I still think you cheated when you had the little laugh. No, I was just laughing at the situation. I was watching because I had turned my headphones down, and then I'm just watching you guys have a conversation. I can't hear anything, and I'm just like, this is ridiculous. The offensive lines are so bad.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Wait, before you go, Heath, I don't know if he did this to you too, but he made sure like three times. Did you guys say anything when the earmuffs were topping? Oh, yeah. He was so concerned. I was very concerned. The last time I did that, Nando gave us more bleeps than we've ever had. Giants and Seahawks offensive lines, are they going to hold back the important players on those teams?
Starting point is 00:26:55 Yes. To what degree? To a degree. For the Seahawks, there's only one startable player right now until Doug Baldwin comes back, and that's Will Disley. I mean, Tyler Lockett had a big game. He did. And their games, I mean, I don't know how it's going to be against Dallas. Dallas has a pretty good defense, it seems.
Starting point is 00:27:13 But if they're going to keep falling behind, it's actually good for them. Right. Yeah. I'm not ready to say Russell's a bad start. I'm not starting him this week. Which means he's only getting 24 points. I don't know if I'd rather start him or Wentz, but probably Wentz. You'll go with him.
Starting point is 00:27:31 You're going to go with Wentz over Russell Wilson this week? I think I probably would. Who are you? This is a bad, bad—I don't think we've really seen yet how bad they are because I'm not sure they've played a team that isn't also bad. Who, the Seahawks? Yes. Well, they played two good defensive fronts.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Yes. They did. The Broncos' rest of their defense looked pretty suspect. And the Giants played two good defenses too. So, I mean, Saquon Barkley has a 68-yard touchdown run, and he has 24 carries for 40 yards in his other attempts. But they're going to throw it to him 14 times a game. At least they're smart enough to do that. Well, that's because Eli has a half a second.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Right, I know. I'm a little worried about Earl Beckham. Me too. Yeah. I mean, there's really no difference between last year. It's not like, or two years ago, let's say. It's not like their offensive line is worse. Yeah, but Eli's a step slower.
Starting point is 00:28:23 His arm's worse. Is it? I don't think it is. Come on. He's been this guy. Yeah, but he's older now. And the worst part about it is that he gets more skittish because the offensive line is still terrible. He's always been like that.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Do you think he went from an average quarterback to one of the worst quarterbacks in the league? He is absolutely not one of the worst quarterbacks in the league. One of the five worst starting quarterbacks in the league. That's ridiculous. That's absolutely ridiculous. Is he better or worse than Ryan Fitzpatrick at this stage? I would much rather have Eli Manning than Ryan Fitzpatrick. Are you out of your mind?
Starting point is 00:28:53 Not in fantasy. Not in fantasy. Put Ryan Fitzpatrick on the Giants. Are you kidding? You know where he'd be right now? He'd be on the turf. He'd be on the turf. That's all they do.
Starting point is 00:29:02 He'd be dressed like Conor McGregor. He'd be better for Odell Beckham. Odell Beckham, I mean, this is nothing different for the Giants. They've had a terrible offensive line for three or four years in a row, and Beckham does fine. It's just frustrating. Of course it's frustrating. He had 111 yards against Jalen Ramsey in week one.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Let's not overreact. No, but it's just a little disconcerting that he's not going to have, I think, the ceiling that we're used to seeing for him. Is he in your top 20 receivers this week? Yes. At Houston. If they have Clowney back, they should get plenty of sacks against
Starting point is 00:29:37 Eli Manning. Clowney was there last week, though. No, he didn't. He didn't play. He was penalized. He was penalized, though. Oh, okay. He didn't play. The Seattle running backs, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:29:52 Stay away if you can. I mean, so stupid. What Pete Carroll is trying to defend things that he does, it's just so stupid. What he said last night about Chris Carson is ridiculous. Oh, too much special teams work? Too much special. When I saw it at the end of the game, I'm ridiculous. Too much special teams work. I saw it at the end of the game. I'm like, he's chasing a punt. I'm like, why is he chasing punts?
Starting point is 00:30:09 It is weird. Who's the guy going forward or sitting to? I think it's Penny. Can they get Alex Collins back? I think it's Carson. I think they go back to him. They got to realize that Penny's just not getting the job done. Penny looked okay in the fourth quarter on the last drive, but the whole thing
Starting point is 00:30:25 is a disaster. Yeah, the problem is that Carson might be the better running back, but it doesn't mean he's going to be great for your fantasy team. Would you cut them for Geo? If they were my worst guys, yes. Yeah. Alrighty, guys. Alright, we've got a few more news items. Waver Wire,
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Starting point is 00:32:12 Marcus Mariota still can't make all the throws. They're at Jacksonville, and you're not starting them anyway. Not sure of Devontae Freeman's timetable right now. The Redskins sign Brashad Perryman and Michael Floyd. What does that tell you about Jamison Crowder, if anything? He sucks. I don't know
Starting point is 00:32:30 if that's an indictment on Crowder or if it's an indictment on Doxson or just the offense in general. What are they looking for here? They're obviously looking for an outside threat. Devontae Parker was a healthy inactive in week two. I think Crowder is going to get dropped.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I don't know how Owen Parker is, but anybody who owns him. He's in the 30s. I mean, I didn't even bother mentioning him. He'll be in the 10s probably. Yeah, he's 34% owned. Offensive line stuff. Left tackle Cam Robinson for the Jaguars. He tore his ACL.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Denver right tackle Jared Veldier left with a concussion. Atlanta guard Andy Levitre left with a concussion. Atlanta guard Andy Levitre left with an elbow injury. And Giants center John Jalapio is out for the season after breaking his ankle and his leg. But luckily the Giants can withstand offensive line injuries. They'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And then we have some defensive injuries which I... Let's see. The most important stuff I'd say to know is that Carolina's got two injuries in their secondary. A starting cornerback and a starting center. Saints lost... Thank you. Saints lost defensive tackle Sheldon Rankins, but he says he's
Starting point is 00:33:33 fine. The Colts lost two starters, a lineman and a cornerback. Darius Slay has a concussion. The Patriots lost two important defenders. Patrick Chung, safety, and Trey Flowers, the defensive end. They had concussions there at Detroit on Sunday. Could be a good game for Stafford.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Sean Lee's fine. He left with an injury, but he's okay. He actually came back to recover or to be on an onside kick coverage. And Giants cornerback Eli Apple left with a groin injury. We got to know who to drop, not just who to add. So here's the drop-o-meter. Zero to ten. These are listeners submitted.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Zero to ten, Jamison listeners submitted. Zero to ten. Jamison Crowder. Ten. What number does he wear? Eighty. Isaac Roth. Russell Wilson. Zero.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Zero. One. Peyton Barber. Four. Three. Richard Fitzwell says, my mother-in-law. Wow. Ouch. Zero. I have a great mother-in-law. Wow. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Zero. I have a great mother-in-law. Very happy. Very blessed. Bridget says, Jordy Nelson and Tyler Lockett. Zero on Lockett. Ten on Jordy. Yep.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yep. Robbie Anderson. Eight. Wow. Robbie Anderson. Eight. Wow. I'm not going to go that high, but like six. Mr. Robbie Anderson. Listen, you were done with Chio. Don't give up on your guys yet.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I don't give up on the guys. And if they aren't getting the football, it does not matter how good they are. Well, Eli Manning gets the football every play. But he's awful. Derek Hedry. Zero. Derek Henry. Zero. Corey Davis. Zero.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Zero. And Jamal Williams. Maybe next week it's a seven. 0.5. Zero. He played both. It's zero right now. And Marquise Goodwin.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Zero. Zero. Waiver Wire. Quarterbacks. Zero. Zero. Zero point zero. Waver Wire quarterbacks. Fitzpatrick. Big game for him this week. Pittsburgh at home? Should be. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Just keep an eye on Joe Hayden. It doesn't matter if Joe Hayden plays or not. Yes, it does. No, it doesn't. I don't think Pittsburgh's defense is necessarily bad. I would start Fitzpatrick over Carson Wentz. Yeah, he's top 12 quarterback this week, but just keep an eye on Joe Hayden. Yeah, there's a pretty big difference.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I'll keep an eye on Joe Hayden as he watches Deshaun Jackson streak past him for a touchdown. All right, Fitzpatrick, let me just ask you if you're... I mean, are you picking Fitzpatrick up thinking, I'm going to start this guy the rest of the season? No, he's by next week. Two weeks. No, two weeks, two weeks, week five.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Two weeks, sorry. Other than that? No. I'm starting him over any quarterback that I have a concern about, be it because of the matchup or past performance. So I'll take him over Russell Wilson. I'll take him over Phillip Rivers, who's taken on the Rams. I'll take him over Andrew Luck.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Take him over Jared Goff. Take him over Matt Ryan. Take him over Carson Wentz. I like Ryan this week. I agree with all those except for Ryan. You can have him. I'll take Fitzpatrick. Atlanta has the Saints at home. Andy Dalton is also on the waiver wire. He is... Sorry, Jamie. I deleted your ownership
Starting point is 00:36:43 percentages. It's like 30-something. Okay, Andy Dalton coming off a nice game. 34 fantasy points, four touchdowns against Baltimore. And he is at Carolina. And like I mentioned, two members of their secondary left with injuries. So there's Dalton and there's Blake Bortles. Who do you guys like better between Dalton and Bortles?
Starting point is 00:37:03 Dalton. Bortles. Nice. You guys like better between Dalton and Bortles? Dalton. Bortles. Nice. You have become like anti-heat. You've become Pete Prisco. I am Pete Prisco. He sits next to me now. Do you like cold turkey sandwiches? Delicious. I think he had two turkey sandwiches yesterday. Pete Prisco likes cold turkey
Starting point is 00:37:22 sandwiches? He likes simple. Does he put like mustard on it? He had a turkey melt at lunch Yeah, Prisco likes cold turkey sandwiches. He likes simple. Oh. Does he put, like, mustard on it? He had a turkey melt at lunch, and I think he told me he was getting a turkey sandwich from Publix, the pre-made ones, for dinner. God, turkey is so boring. Dave, I'd like to tell people about the sandwich I ate that I told you on the radio. I'm going to see if we have time for that because it's pretty epic.
Starting point is 00:37:46 It's nice that you're rushing us through everything. Dalton and Bort. I have to rush you so I can get to the sandwich. We'll put it on the sandwich-o-meter. Why don't you do it tomorrow when I'm not here and don't have to deal with it? It's an interesting sandwich. Would you start Dalton or Bortles over Russell
Starting point is 00:38:01 Wilson this week? No. Yes. I currently have Wilson ahead of both. I don't know if I'm going to commit to it. How do you feel about Case Keenum? He's 69% owned, so he didn't make the waiver wire list, which is a 65% threshold.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Would you start... Let's say you're looking and these guys are available. Case Keenum at Baltimore, Derek Carr at Miami. Ryan Tannehill in that same game. Any interest in those guys? Tannehill. Yeah, Tannehill.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I would drop Case Keenum for a lot of the waiver workers. All of them. I would say Derek Carr is 59% owned, and he's averaging about 295 yards per game. He has faced the Rams and the Broncos, and he'll be at Miami this week. He had a good game there last year. I think he had like 300 yards. I don't think the touchdowns were there. The Dolphins, by the end of the season, are going to have one of the best secondaries in football.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Yeah, it might not be a good matchup, but should we at least mention that Carr is playing pretty well right now, at least by the numbers? They did something which Vance Joseph said I think is interesting. He did not hold the ball at all. He got the ball out of his hands quickly. Vance Joseph said he held the ball twice, and those are the two times that they sacked him. I know that in week one, and I don't remember who tweeted it, so
Starting point is 00:39:18 apologies, his average time holding the ball was lower than any quarterback in any game last year. And he's completing 80% of those passes, which is really, really good. And the yards per attempt is 8.2 yards per attempt. He has one touchdown. If he had more touchdowns, it would be great. So if you believe in positive regression coming his way,
Starting point is 00:39:36 then it's going to come his way. But I don't know if this is the week where you want to trust him because, like Jamie said, the Dolphins secondary is really good. Minka Fitzpatrick has been really, really good. They have the best safety tandem in football and possibly the best trio of safeties when you factor in TJ McDonald. I would start Carr over Rivers, but I'd start Wilson over Carr. All righty.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Over Rivers, who is at the Rams this week. All right, so I think we should move along to running backs then. And Gio Bernard is obviously the head of the class. I do want to share a tweet, though. It's from Patrick Boyd. He said, thank you for the Tommy John discount. I placed an order over the weekend. And this will be our second clothing sponsor today.
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Starting point is 00:41:42 If Sproles is out Clement is a definite flex If Ajayi is out he's a must start guy And Javoris Allen is a low end flex in PPR Yeah I'd say Allen is a flex in PPR Clement is a flex in both And Geo is a number one running back Number one?
Starting point is 00:41:59 I've got him as a number two But I like it I like where you guys are coming from Theo Riddick has 14 catches in two games. He's not doing anything on the ground, really, but if you need someone in PPR, Theo Riddick's 37% owned. Corey Grant, if Fernette is out, could get another nice workload. He had 10 touches against the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:42:19 He had 56 receiving yards. Corey Grant. Yeah. I think he looked better than Yeldon. He did. But, I mean, it was so frustrating because they had the lead, a two-score lead, and Yeldon averaged 5.8 yards per carry and got 10 carries. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:33 They weren't looking at it. Coaches don't look at rushing averages during the game. Well, you should know if you're having success when you run the ball. I just wonder, though, remember he popped on the injury report on Friday with the ankle problem? I wonder if it was just, you know, let's not burn him when he's not right. Sure. Especially if Fournette's not right next week.
Starting point is 00:42:50 But he still played more snaps. Yeah, but a lot of that was early. I think just, you know, game in hand, let's not run him into the ground. Let's not do what we did to Mixon. Because Grant was fine. Let's not do what the Bengals did to Mixon, run him back out there on a bad knee. So let's be honest here. After the top three, for a lot of people it might be after the top one,
Starting point is 00:43:06 Giovanni Bernard, Corey Clement, Javoris Allen, it's Riddick, Corey Grant, Ido Smith, Chris Ivory, and Marcus Murphy for Buffalo facing Minnesota on the road. Latavius Murray, and that's pretty much it.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I think you can flex Latavius in non-PPR this week. Yeah, the Bills have allowed four running backs to score eight or more fantasy points in non-PPR. Alex Collins would have scored seven, but he had a fumble. So that would have been five running backs with seven or more fantasy points, which is flexible. Seven fantasy points in non-PPR for a running back. That's a number three running back. You need to pick up Latavius Murray for the cook owner just in case that hamstring is a problem. And then two other names.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Aaron Jones is 67% owned and back this week. We have to just see what's going to happen there. And Chase Edmonds is getting a lot more of the work in Arizona than I expected. And he has been very good when he's touched the ball. And they are idiots. Agreed. That is the third person or organization you have called an idiot today. Well, you're an idiot too.
Starting point is 00:44:12 There's four. Not you, Heath. That's only the first time you've called someone. Oh, dude, we forgot the idiot moron segment. We? I forgot the idiot moron segment. You idiot moron. I started Marcus Mariota.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I win again. Two in a row. And Greg Zerline in three leagues. You started Marcus Mariota? I told you that. It was a super flex league. I think three QB leagues are just too much. I didn't know he wasn't going to play at all.
Starting point is 00:44:43 All right. Fine. I'll just do something. If you tuned into FFT on Sunday morning on CBS Sports HQ, you would have known. Oh, I've got some idiot moron calls. I can throw one out there. I've got a great one. Go, go, go, go.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Expert league that I'm in, I've got Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. I rank Patrick Mahomes ahead of Tom Brady this week, and I still have Brady in my lineup. Just completely forgot to pull him from the Holmes. You're an idiot, moron. Heath? I'm trying to find one of the leagues where I lost. I did the same thing where after they
Starting point is 00:45:15 decided they were going to release Josh Gordon and not play him this weekend, I lowered Tyrod Taylor behind Matthew Stafford, but I still played Taylor. Idiot, moron. I started Michael Crabt Idiot moron. Yep. I started Michael Crabtree over John Brown. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:33 So, by the way, if Gio Bernard is worth 20% to 25% of your fab, is anybody out there, including maybe Aaron Jones, worth even 15%? No. The only guys that are in that same category, like Phillipip lindsey's owned in 83 so 10 team leagues you're going to spend a lot on him uh see what eckler's ownership is you're going to spend a lot on him um and he got kenny galladay was um like 77 right yeah he's high so spend on him if he's still available in a 10 team league i think you're going to see a lot of morons go after deshaun jackson use their first waiver claim on him and spend a lot of their fab on him. See, I think if you need somebody for this week, that's not a bad situation.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I have him second behind Chris Godwin as the receivers to add this week. But moving forward, I agree with you. You're chasing production. But he's just been fantastic, and Fitzpatrick and Deshaun have a great connection right now. Yeah, so Kenny Galladay is 77% owned. If he were available, how much would you throw down on him? And would he be ahead of Godwin and Cole and Jackson? Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I'd give up to 20% for him. Okay. I don't think I'd go that high, but close to it. Okay, so wide receivers, Chris Godwin, Keelan Cole, and Deshaun Jackson. So do you like the Bucs guys ahead of Keelan Cole? Yes. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:55 John Brown, John Brown 50% owned, got Denver this week. Thoughts? No, thank you. No, thank you. And adding him? No, thank you. I'm playing him. And adding him? No, thank you. I'm playing him this week. Sure, but adding him.
Starting point is 00:47:08 But it's not something I'd give him very much for that one. Okay. I think... Do we have to reevaluate how great the Broncos' DST is? I think so. They were never going to be great, at least in my opinion. I didn't think they were going to be great. I thought they'd be good. When you're asking Bradley Chubb to come in and be DeMarcus Ware, that was never going to be great At least in my opinion I didn't think they were going to be great I thought they'd be good
Starting point is 00:47:25 When you're asking Bradley Chubb to come in and be DeMarcus Ware That was never going to happen Their secondary is minus Tlaib So they're shifting stuff around So they were going to be worse than they were What I'm saying is why a quick dismissal on John Brown this week The secondary Chris Harris is still very good
Starting point is 00:47:43 To me John Brown is a good number three receiver because he's at home. They have to go cross country for an early start. I don't mind John Brown this week at all. I don't think it's an automatic set. Geronimo Allison is 51% owned. You can add him. He is at Washington this week. Antonio Callaway, 13%.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Tyler Boyd, Mike Williams. Why don't we look at that group, Dave? Allison, Callaway, Tyler Boyd, Mike Williams. Why don't we look at that group, Dave? Allison Calloway, Tyler Boyd, and Mike Williams. I'm still going to have the hots for Williams ahead of the group. Calloway is very interesting. Even without that deep ball touchdown, he was making moves on the field, and he's going to get opportunities in Cleveland. So he really impressed me.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And Tyler Boyd was impressive as well. I just wonder if that was more matchup dependent than not in Cincinnati. But you look at how John Ross has performed, and you look at how the tight end usage has been in Cincinnati, and maybe Tyler Boyd is that number two receiver there. Yeah, I think if you look at their targets for the year so far, A.J. Green's got 17. Tyler Boyd has 14.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Nobody else on the team has it more than eight. I think he's the number two receiver there. How many does Geo have? Eight. So he's like the third guy. He's the third man. The funny thing is in week one, Mixon got seven and Bernard got one. So Mixon has eight too.
Starting point is 00:49:02 In week two, Geo got seven, Mixon got it. Yeah, I think that when Mixon first started getting hurt, then they just took him off passing down. But I would expect, yes, like projecting targets for this week, it'd be Green, then Boyd, then Geo. Yeah, I mean, well, we said Godwin, Cole, Deshaun Jackson, John Brown, Allison, Callaway, Boyd, Mike Williams. I mean, I can make a case to add all of these guys.
Starting point is 00:49:24 There's so much scoring going on right now that this just feels like a very deep position. Going to have good options every week. That's the thing. It's like in writing it, I give a fab suggestion. I try to give a range of up to this or this range. For the receivers, it was like, okay, spend on maybe 10% on Godwin, Jackson, and Cole, and then it was 5% on the rest of the guys? Because you don't want to...
Starting point is 00:49:50 I don't know where I said this because one of the platforms were wrong. That Cole could easily go back to what he did a week ago because of the matchup against Tennessee where they could just run all over them if they want to, and you're going to drop him. the same thing Mike Williams is going to have a tough game against the Rams you know you can drop him and then two weeks from now you want to add him again because it'll play well you know so it's it's tough to sort of gauge what the long-term value is for these guys in some of the offenses that they are like last week was easy with so who has the most
Starting point is 00:50:24 long-term value? I still think Godwin. It's shocking to me that his ownership is what it is. What about the other guys? What about Mike Williams? What about Allison? Boyd? Do you see anybody else that's like, gosh, this guy could have a really big year.
Starting point is 00:50:35 We need to get him now. I think Boyd could be a flex all year. I think John Brown could be a flex all year. Dave? Mike Williams? Yeah. That's the guy. I mean, honestly, Adam, all these guys can. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Because they're just, you know, like Allison, so far has been great. You know, given the fact that they played Minnesota last week and Rodgers had the bad leg, he exceeded my expectations by a lot. You know, so I look at, you know, even Calvin Ridley. You know, he was on the drop list last week, and he played great. Yeah, Calvin Ridley, DJ Moore, DeeDee Westbrook, Dante Pettis,
Starting point is 00:51:13 they're also on the list. Yeah, Pettis is more, I think, a byproduct of Goodwin being hurt. So for this week, if Goodwin's out, I think he's got a little bit more upside than maybe some of the guys that I have ranked ahead of him just because of that matchup. But if Goodwin comes back, then it's a different story. And then just one other name. I mean, he's 1% owned.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Brashard Higgins. He had seven targets in Week 2 for Cleveland. I don't know, 16-team league, deeper? Yeah, right. He's a bench receiver in those deeper leagues. Feel free to drop Sterling Shepard, Jordy Nelson, Jamison Crowder, Mohamed Sanu, and Michael Gallup. Tight ends.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Will Disley is number one. Jesse James is number two. I think those are— I'm sorry. I should have told you. I put O.J. Howard, too. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And Jesse James is three? Jesse James is three. Okay, why Howard? Well, okay, let's start with Disley. He's got Dallas this week. They gave up that late touchdown to Evan Ingram. Is Disley a real thing here, guys?
Starting point is 00:52:14 No, but I don't think any of these guys are real things. And so I think you just look, for me, it's situation. You know, that they lost so much production from their tight ends a year ago. No Baldwin. This receiving core is miserable. So the fact that he's getting targets and producing with those targets, again, garbage time being what it is, he still got you the production. I'll take my chances with that more so than as good as Jesse James looked.
Starting point is 00:52:36 He played one game without Vance McDonald. McDonald played last week, had five targets, a lot of mouths to feed in that offense. I wish O.J. Howard was more involved because I know you sort of a little bit ingest with your tweet about O.J. Howard being the second most talented tight end in the NFL. Only a little. If he were to get featured more, he would be a top five tight end.
Starting point is 00:53:00 That's what I'm saying. If O.J. Howard had the targets, we'd be talking about him with the elites. Yeah. Not Gronk. Gronk's in another world. I think, you know, so far he's got a floor of five points for the season. If that's sustainable, he'll end up being a top 15 tight end. But it's not going to be sexy.
Starting point is 00:53:19 The problem is that you need the big plays like he showed you last week, and I don't know if there's enough opportunities for him to get that. But I don't know about any of these guys really being that great. Safarian Jenkins is touchdown dependent. Can I read the list? Let me read the list. Will Disley, O.J. Howard, Jesse James, Austin Safarian Jenkins, Austin Hooper. And Hooper is a guy that I think for this week specifically in a game that should be a shootout,
Starting point is 00:53:44 I'd feel better about starting. Let's start James. He's the same thing, though. If you get five targets and you hope he doesn't shoot them. And James was great in five targets. Is that sustainable? Because I still think that McDonald is the guy that they would like to get going. So they're all questionable.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I mean, Safarian Jenkins, he should have scored in two straight games, but he's touchdown dependent. So they're all kind of like, okay, I can see James being better. I can see Disley being the best. I can see Howard, you know, if he breaks off another big play because he's that special of a talent. I got a deep sleeper for you, 20-team leagues. Virgil Green at the Rams over Antonio Gates.
Starting point is 00:54:22 He's the best tight end on the Chargers. I think he is. Yeah, he is. Rams are trash against tight ends I think I don't know about that That's their vulnerability That's their vulnerability It's desperation
Starting point is 00:54:38 And drop candidate Tyler Eifert Needs to be dropped to 73% owned I was going to ask if you would drop some of these guys But it's like The waiver wire is not good enough. Like Evan Ingram, I know he had the touchdown, but you're not going to drop him. George Kittle, got to hang on, right?
Starting point is 00:54:54 Hang on. Definitely hang on. Jack Doyle, is he droppable? No. Smaller non-PPR leagues, you could let him go. No. Okay. DSTs, The Browns.
Starting point is 00:55:06 The Dolphins. Can you believe it? I know. The Browns are the number four DST in fantasy right now. They get the Jets at home on Thursday. The Dolphins host the Raiders. The Dolphins are the number three DST. They're 6% owned.
Starting point is 00:55:19 And the Cowboys are at Seattle. And they've had two good games so far. And it'll be a long trip for them. But Seattle, so they've had two good games so far, and it'll be a long trip for them, but Seattle, so many sacks allowed. So Browns, Dolphins, Cowboys, that's how Jamie ranks them. Dave Heath? I agree.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Browns, Dolphins, Cowboys, and Browns and Dolphins both in my top ten. I'll go Browns, Cowboys, Dolphins. What about, one more I just want to bring up, the Jets. They are the number one DST in fantasy. They're at the Browns this week. I actually didn't say their name, but I have them ahead of the Cowboys and Dolphins. Yeah, no. They had a great game where they knew the game plan against the Lions. They stink.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Well, I think they had a good game against the Dolphins. I think they had a lot of sacks. Let me see. The Jets. Yeah, they scored 14 points. They had four sacks and two forced fumbles. And they'll be at Cleveland. So are there any high-profile DSTs that you are replacing this week
Starting point is 00:56:14 with the Browns or the Dolphins or the Jets or the Cowboys? I don't want to start the Saints. I don't want to start the Falcons either. Yeah. Okay. Are we good with the Texans, even after their huge disappointment? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Top four for me. Mm-hmm. Kickers, Dan Bailey, Graham Gonneau, Josh Lambeau. Dan Bailey, now of the Vikings. Graham Gonneau and Josh Lambeau. You could throw Sam Ficken in there, too. Sam Ficken, now of the Rams. Yeah. It's a good call.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I don't know if he's good, but I know the offense is. He wasn't great last year when he took over for Zerline, but I think the bar was set so high that it was hard to replace. Well, the bar doesn't really, I mean, they don't change it for the kickers. Very true. Oh, you mean the theoretical? Oh, gosh. I'm on fire.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Well, we've got a few minutes for emails. Oh, no, wait. We have Team Name Tuesday. Let's do that real quick. Not the sandwich-o-meter? The sandwich. All right, what do you guys want to hear first? A terrific Team Name Tuesday, like a truly outstanding Team Name Tuesday submission or the sandwich?
Starting point is 00:57:22 Jamie, this is the part where you go, got to go. All right, Team Name Tuesday. So this guy named his team the 92 Dream Team. And after three rounds, he realized he had drafted three players who either had a first or last name that shared with a 92 Dream Team member. So the rest of his draft, every member of his team either has a first name or a last name of a member of the basketball team, the Dream Team member. So the rest of his draft, every member of his team either has a first name or a last name of a member of the basketball team, the Dream Team. So he has Barkley, Christian McCaffrey for Leitner, Jordan Howard,
Starting point is 00:57:54 Michael Jordan, Larry Fitzgerald, Larry Bird, Allen Robinson for David Robinson. He has Kerryon Johnson. Who is that? Magic Johnson. Oh, Magic Johnson. Patrick Mahomes. We know who that is. Patrick Ewing.
Starting point is 00:58:11 John Brown. Who's John Stockton? Chris Godwin would be? Chris Mullen. Chris Mullen. Josh Malone. He drafted Josh Malone just to commit to the team name for Carl Malone. And he drafted Clyde Simmons from the Cleveland defensive coaching staff.
Starting point is 00:58:32 He drafted these guys just to make sure he had Clyde Drexler represented. He does not have a Scotty for Scotty Pippen. So good job. That would be Zach in Kansas. Terrific commitment to a team name. We also have Super Camario. Super Camario. Super Camario. Brothers.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Sweet Mahomes and Camara. Can we get to the sandwich now? Oh, oh, if it's magic. Hit me with your Prescott. Juju believe in magic. Beasley juice, Beasley juice, Beasley juice.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Hot chub time machine. That's funny. And Pettis of Misery, Disney Disney. I like that. That's funny. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:59:20 All right, so here's the sandwich I had. It was a hoagie. It's like a lightly toasted hoagie with a chicken cutlet. I think it was a breaded chicken cutlet. Mozzarella sticks on the sandwich. American cheese. Bacon.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I did no bacon, by the way. And vodka sauce. So why did you say bacon if there wasn't bacon on the sandwich? Because it comes with bacon if you want it. But vodka sauce was so good on a sandwich. I couldn't believe how good vodka sauce was. It was great. I'm underwhelmed by your sandwich.
Starting point is 00:59:53 It had mozzarella sticks. It sounds disgusting. No, it was awful. It was one of the – Mozzarella sticks with American cheese on top of them? I think it was American cheese. It was one of the best sandwiches I've ever had legitimately. Mount Kisco Diner.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Adam? Yeah, I know. You have to go. Adam? Bye. Hold on. Adam? Heath, I hope you have a better day.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Gotta go, bud. I look forward to some happy Heath on Wednesday's show. When we will grade your trades, do some regulating, and much more. For Dave, for Jamie, I'm Adam. See you later. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah! for Jamie, I'm Adam. See you later.

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