Fantasy Football Today - 09/19: Trade Talk; Regulators; NYJ-CLE (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 19, 2018Sooooo much trade talk today as Heath starts the show with one buy low (1:20) and one sell high candidate (2:55). And we get into what Patrick Mahomes is doing and how sustainable it is. We've also go...t all the NFL news you need to know (6:42) ... Revisiting the elite RBs (10:30), we wonder if Kareem Hunt and David Johnson are going to turn things around, what Ezekiel Elliott's season will look like and much more. Plus, discussing Chris Godwin (28:40), DSTs, some Week 3 questions, Part One of Fantasy Regulators (32:09) and a preview of NYJ-CLE (36:03) ... A lot more Buy Low (42:26) and Sell High (45:41), plus some intriguing stats (50:00) and Fantasy Regulators Part Two (54:24)! ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
It is time for the best hour in fantasy football,
the Wednesday episode of Fantasy Football Today.
Keith, I would say it's even better
than the lead of 4 o'clock p.m.
when we're watching Red Zone
and all the games are going crazy.
I thought you were going to say it's even better
because not only is Dave not here,
but Jamie's not here either.
The fewer people we have,
basically the more I get to talk,
the better the Wednesday show
is. I think that's just what I like about it, I suppose. All right, so Heath, take off. Good
stuff. Thank you, Heath Cummings. Well, we're going to help you make some trades. You got to
make some trades. It's a great time to make some trades. We're going to look at those top 11
running backs all the way from Todd Gurley down to Christian McCaffrey and see what we're thinking
for them the rest of the season.
Find out if Heath's worried about any elite wide receivers
who have certainly been very good so far this year, for the most part.
And buy low, sell high, all that fun stuff.
We're going to preview the Thursday night game,
which is the Jets at the Browns.
And we've got some more fun for you on today's show.
Heath, give me one buy low candidate to start the show.
It's the greatest player that Adam Azer never drafted,
Dalvin Cook. Oh, isn't that a shame?
Isn't that a shame?
Now's your chance.
I think I'm going to capitalize on this.
Someone else drafted
him. They're upset
because his hamstring had a cramp in it.
He hasn't scored a touchdown. He hasn't topped
40 rushing yards in a game yet.
Now's the time.
Put all those things in the offer, too.
It's always nice when you put some notes telling someone
why the player you're trying to trade for sucks.
I get insulted by that.
I know.
Everyone does.
No one actually likes it.
But Dalvin Cook is on pace for 70 receptions, 800 receiving yards.
He's got like 185 total yards in two games.
It's just been a weird thing where the Vikings have six passing touchdowns and zero rushing
touchdowns.
Absolutely.
He's going to be very, very good.
He's going to be a top 12 running back.
Buy low on Dalvin Cook.
And like we said, I mean, it's now or never because they got Buffalo coming into town
this week. It's now or never because they got Buffalo coming into town this week. It's now
or never. This is the time to get them.
I guess you could make the case that after that,
at the Rams, at the Eagles, they're tough matchups.
Does that scare you off?
I'm not too worried.
I had some people telling me this last night
when we were discussing Mark Ingram on Twitter
that his schedule is really hard.
I don't really worry about schedule
with the Vikings offense or the Saints offense.
All right.
It works for me.
Give me one sell-high candidate.
Deshaun Jackson, quite obviously, the most obvious sell-high candidate.
Maybe that makes it impossible to sell him,
but I'm not sure that he's going to be someone that you actually want to start
on a regular basis throughout the rest of the year.
So I would be happy to sell him for just
about anything what about my homes any quarterback who's doing really well is a sell high candidate
right because it's just so deep of it i mean okay maybe this changes in a 14 team or 16 team
probably 16 14 team i'm still like in our 14. We get plenty of quarterbacks on the waiver wire.
Mahomes.
See, I have the stat here.
Mahomes is the number two quarterback behind Fitzpatrick.
And he has, gosh, he has like the 20-something most attempts.
Sorry, I don't have the exact stat in front of me.
But he's not throwing that much.
So what are the rate stats telling you about Mahomes?
Well, okay, there's a couple of difficult things to parse here because he's averaging 10.6 yards per attempt.
There's no way he keeps that up.
He's got like an 18% touchdown rate.
There's no way he keeps that up.
The thing I will say is the Chiefs have not even run 60 plays in a game yet.
They've been one of the best offenses in
football, and they're doing it on
55 plays
per game, which is
generally telling you this team is terrible
and doesn't have the ability
to possess the ball. What it's
actually been for the Chiefs is
it takes them four plays to score.
Yes.
They've been amazing. so it's hard to
make too much of the rate stats because it's not like they're having three and outs and that's why
they're not running any plays it's not like the chiefs have a run heavy offense right it's just
that they score so quick that normal statistics don't make any sense.
28th most pass attempts for Patrick Mahomes and the second most fantasy points.
One behind.
One fantasy point behind, of course, the best Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Now, all that being said, I'm not trying to say that I believe what Patrick Mahomes is doing and you shouldn't sell high.
But they have the 28th most pass attempts is what you said?
Yes.
Well, he has the 28th most pass attempts,
so I don't know what that means.
Probably around that for the team, but he has the 28th most pass attempts.
And they have more pass attempts than rush attempts.
Do they?
Yes.
All right.
It's been a strange start for the Chiefs,
but they will get the San Francisco 49ers this week,
then at Denver, then Jacksonville.
Not the easiest schedule there, I guess, for the next three.
Then it gets a little bit more favorable after that,
as we sort of alluded to yesterday.
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Heath, let's run through the news and notes.
Jay Ajayi could miss this week's game.
And Corey Clement is now 75%
owned.
Is he almost at the Giovanni
Bernard level if Jay Ajayi is out?
If
Jay Ajayi is out, I'll probably have him ranked higher
than Giovanni Bernard. Oh, wow. Really?
Because it's a better matchup.
The Colts' defense
looked better against Washington, but I think Washington
just had a terrible offensive day.
If Ajayi's out, Clement and Bernard will both be top ten running backs for me in week three.
Yeah, and are there stud running backs that you're going to sit for them?
Like David Johnson.
I would have a hard time
If I had those two starting David Johnson
In non-PPR
And in PPR, either way
Against the Bears
And I feel kind of the same way about Kareem Hunt
Kareem Hunt, yeah, is another guy that's interesting
We're going to talk about all these guys
Kareem Hunt going up against the 49ers
Antonio Brown mispracticed for personal reasons
According to his agent Drew Rosenhaus
How concerned are you
Obviously his agent's going to say
There's nothing to it
But how concerned are you now about this Antonio Brown stuff
I thought
I was on CBS Sports HQ
I thought that
I heard it said best
For anyone else
We would be panicking.
For the Steelers, this is a Monday.
It is kind of true.
But, you know, I think sort of why we thought Le'Veon Bell would be back.
Yeah.
Sure enough, he isn't.
I mean, he faces a depleted Tampa Bay secondary on Monday Night Football.
He leads the NFL in targets.
I would expect he'll be one of the top three or four receivers in week three have you checked the fan duel pricing yet well it's monday night
football so i don't play contests that include both sunday and monday okay but yes i have checked
the fan duel pricing i just not but not him i wonder if he's still the number one wide receiver
and we don't know all right no none of the main contests include that game gotcha
okay uh more news matt naggy says jordan howard needs a few more carries he went away from him
late in the game so you can expect hopefully a bigger workload for howard
hugh jackson says duke johnson needs more touches duke johnson i mean would you have any hesitation
dropping duke johnson none yeah okay uh washington running back rob kelly is on ir so if you think Duke Johnson, I mean, would you have any hesitation dropping Duke Johnson? None.
Yeah, okay.
Washington running back Rob Kelly is on IR.
So if you think Adrian Peterson is going to get hurt and you're in a deeper league,
Samaje Pirine could be in line for work.
He's a good stash.
Yeah.
Andy Levitre is out for the season.
That's Atlanta's guard.
He's got a triceps injury. I don't know if it's a huge loss, but it's a loss.
Jordan Matthews signed with the Eagles. They need some help. Do you think Jordan Matthews has any fantasy value?
I don't really. I would expect once Alshon Jeffries is back, the targets are pretty
consolidated between Aguilar, Jeffries, Ertz, and one of the running backs. He might be an interesting DFS play in week three
if he's ready to practice right away.
Right.
Okay, Larry Fitzgerald is expected to play against the Bears.
Joe Hayden is expected to practice this week.
That would certainly help the Steelers' secondary
as they prepare for Ryan Fitzpatrick.
And do you expect the following players?
Marquise Goodwin at Kansas City.
Not currently.
Marcus Mariota at Jacksonville.
No.
Leonard Fournette against Tennessee.
Not currently.
LaShawn McCoy at Minnesota.
Yes.
And Josh Gordon at Detroit on Sunday night.
Not currently.
All right.
Heath, let's revisit the elite running backs, 1 through 11
And if there's anyone else that has jumped into that picture
Feel free to throw them in there
Todd Gurley is the number one running back in non-PPR, number three in PPR
And the only thing interesting I can find here to say about Gurley is this
He's on pace for 48 catches
He had 64 catches in only 15 games last year
So, you know, could have had close to 70.
He's on pace for 48. Last year, he led the team in catches, Heath. This year, those three wide
receivers are getting a ton of targets and catches and yards. And I was a little afraid of this,
which is why I actually, I mean, early in the offseason, I think you and I, you know, you,
I think you inspired me
to take Le'Veon ahead of Gurley and PPR.
Yeah, the thing I love about this is, like, you could be worried about Gurley's receptions
and say, well, I'm going to take Le'Veon or I'm going to take David Johnson,
and you should have taken Todd Gurley.
Yes, obviously Gurley's still the number one overall player,
but it's just worth noting the catch is right now we're down.
Here's a fun fact that I think you will like and our listeners will hate.
Okay.
The top four running backs in PPR scoring, Alvin Kamara, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Todd Gurley.
I know where you're going with this.
Are all averaging less than four yards per carry.
Five of the top six in non-PPR are averaging less than four yards per carry.
That's awesome.
The only exception is the most deceiving exception in the world.
It is Saquon Barkley because he has a 68-yard touchdown,
and he has, I think, 24 carries for 40 yards on his other attempts.
So basically all of the top six have been bad on a per-carry basis.
All right, so Gurley's number one.
Le'Veon Bell.
Let's revisit Le'Veon Bell.
What's his value right now?
When do you expect him back?
I can't.
It's an impossible question to answer.
Why would you ask me that? Yeah, I'm sorry.
It's an impossible question to answer.
I spent quite a bit of time last night going through my leagues,
clicking on the standings page and then
clicking on the teams that were oh and two and looking to see if they had mark ingram julian
edelman doug baldwin levy on bell and then trying to make an offer for one of those guys it's a good
idea it's a great idea it didn't work yet and jamie accused me of making an azure trade and then
and then jamie turned down a trade that he should have taken.
What was the Acer trade?
The Acer trade was Deion Lewis and Dante Pettis for Mark Ingram and Doug Baldwin.
Oh, that is a terrible trade.
Even I would be insulted by that. He countered and asked for Galladay and Deion Lewis for some Jamison Crowder,
somebody who was getting ready to drop, and Ingram.
And then I countered and just offered him Lewis straight up for Ingram,
and he definitely should have taken that.
What's the format?
PPR.
It's our podcast listeners league.
Oh, 14 teams.
And he's 0-2.
And Mark Ingram and Doug Baldwin are not going to do him any good if he doesn't make a trade.
Yeah, I can deal with 0-2.
I don't panic after 0-1 because if I go 0-2, I can deal with 0-2.
I cannot deal with 0-3.
0-3 is tough to come back from.
Well, that's why you need to make the trade after 0-2.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
See, I think that would be a smart trade to trade Deion Lewis for Mark Ingram
if you're in a position of strength, 1-1 or 2-0.
2-0 specifically.
Although I really see that offense trending toward Deion Lewis and not Mark Ingram.
I think Lewis is going to be in PPR pretty startable.
Oh, I agree.
I think he's a top 25 running back for sure.
But Mark Ingram is going to be awesome in two weeks.
Mark Ingram.
Yeah, he's Mark Ingram.
All right, Ezekiel.
All right, so wait.
So Le'Veon Bell, anything you want to say there?
I would try to make a trade like that, but I wouldn't give up Dion Lewis.
I'd aim lower.
Who would you rather have rest of the season, James Conner or Le'Veon Bell?
I'll take the bird in the hand.
Really, Conner?
I'll take the bird in the hand.
Okay.
Ezekiel Elliott.
Ezekiel Elliott so far is averaging 4.6 yards per carry.
He has scored in both games.
He's only getting 16 carries per game.
Last year he averaged 24 carries per game.
The year before, 21.5.
You know they're going to want to give Ezekiel Elliott more touches.
They were trailing in Week 1.
They actually lost time of possession pretty badly in Week 2,
so maybe that is the case.
It's not that Prescott's throwing more.
He's actually throwing 3.6 fewer pass attempts per game.
And that is all the stats I will give you.
Now you can analyze Ezekiel Elliott.
Yeah, remember when we talked about the Chiefs
and how they're not running very many plays,
and it's because they score so fast?
Yeah, what's the excuse?
Well, the Cowboys are running the same number of plays,
and they're not scoring very fast at all.
They're playing slow, which I think if you look at their team, they don't have a good
passing game.
They do have a pretty good defense and they have a good run game.
This is probably what we should expect from the Cowboys moving forward is a slow paced
offense.
I like Zeke.
I'm comfortable with Zeke.
Yeah, there's nothing to be uncomfortable with.
I think I'd probably take Gordon ahead of him.
But that's not a guarantee for me.
I mean, he does have, what, eight catches so far as you go, Elliot?
I would definitely take Gordon ahead of him in PPR.
I think I'd still take Zeke in non-PPR.
I got nervous when I saw Gordon leave the field with an injury last week.
Just because he's taking a lot of punishment.
He's getting so many touches.
And he has a history of missing games.
I think he's played 13, 14, and 16 games in three years.
I would feel much better if I had Eckler.
You know, which I do in a lot of leagues.
All right, so you go Gordon ahead of Zeke.
And PPR.
And PPR.
The most interesting one is probably David Johnson.
David Johnson is averaging 3.9 yards per carry.
They are vowing to use him more in the slot, whatever it is,
but get him more touches.
His 22 carries and six catches through two games.
He had five catches in week one.
That was great.
The Cardinals have scored six points.
They are averaging 175 yards per game.
It's like they can't be this bad. They can't be this bad.
Well, I mean, the only thing I can think of is they don't think Josh Rosen's ready.
And if Sam Bradford's really just fallen off a cliff, they can be this bad.
This bad? This would be like NFL history.
Are they worse than the bad. This bad? This would be like NFL history.
Are they worse than the Bills right now?
Oh, offensively, it's not even close, actually.
They're much worse than the Bills.
They've scored six points, Heath.
And the Bills have scored 13?
Is that right?
I think maybe they scored another touchdown late in that game. Yeah, I think.
I'll look at the total yards, too.
I'm giving David Johnson another week here before i really hit the panic button i still think you could buy low on
him but the problem is his name's david johnson so i don't know if you could buy as low on him
as i would feel comfortable with see i i think that it's really going to be depending on the
league right like there are a lot of people who are going to feel that way he's david johnson
he'll be fine i do think there will be plenty of owners who are hitting the panic button on David Johnson,
and certainly we're downgrading him.
I don't think we consider him a top-five pick at this point.
But I actually do like him as a buy low in PPR.
I think the one catch is a fluke.
I think he's going to have a lot of catches this year.
So I did look it up, and the Cardinals are averaging 175 yards per game.
The Bills, 223.
The next lowest team, the Cowboys, at 265.
Every other team is over 280.
That's crazy.
175 yards per game.
That's awful.
All right, moving on to Alvin Kamara, I think the second most interesting player
in this group of elite running backs.
He's the number two running back in non-PPR, number one in PPR.
He has 15 catches, 21 carries, and only averaging 3.6 yards per carry, down from 6.1.
Yards per catch actually up slightly for Kamara.
But his touchdowns so far, he's got two rushing touchdowns from five yards out and one yard out.
Last year, he's already matched.
Alvin Kamara has already matched the amount of touchdown carries
from five yards out or closer from last year with two.
That was Ingram.
Ingram had eight touchdowns from three yards out or closer.
And I think when you look at buy low, sell high,
you have to really wonder what's going to happen with the Saints
when Mark Ingram comes back.
Are they going to go back to last year's formula?
Is their defense as good as it was last year?
Or was last year a mirage?
I think it's a huge question for fantasy owners, Heath.
Yeah, I tweeted about this a little bit last night.
Alvin Kamara had, I believe, 27% of the team's rush attempts last year.
And it went up as the season went on.
So maybe you call it 30 33 35 so far this
year he's at 58 of the team's rush attempts and i like i just think and i thought this before the
season and so my bias has been confirmed mark ingram is a better running back between the tackles
than alvin kamara is and alvin kamara is going to be awesome as long as he's used the way that
he should be used and so my expectation when Ingram comes back, and this will evolve over the next couple
of weeks, I've got Ingram with about 50% of the rush attempts, Kamara around 35%. I've got Ingram
with about 12% of the targets, Kamara sticking right around 20%. Okay. So would you be looking to sell Alvin Kamara?
It would have to be an enormous package.
You'd rather have him than David Johnson?
Definitely.
Ezekiel Elliott or Kamara?
In non-PPR, I'd rather have Zeke.
Melvin Gordon.
We love him.
He's great.
He's on pace for 312 touches,
which is actually lower than last year,
so he can withstand that workload.
So I'm getting a little bit dinged. Try to get Austin Eckler if you can.
Saquon Barkley. How do you feel about Saquon Barkley?
And do you have any stats or know where I can find some stats about missed tackles forced by a running back or a player?
Yeah, there are a variety of places that keep track of missed tackles.
They don't all line up.
Yeah, I can imagine.
He's sensational talent.
Oh, he's been outstanding.
The Giants offensive line, the whole they're improved thing, no.
No.
They're not.
They're terrible again.
One of the bottom four offensive lines in football, again.
Their quarterback's atrocious.
But the way he was targeted in that second game makes me just not care at all.
So are you Barkley or Kamara?
I think that's a real tough one.
The next two weeks, I think it's obviously Kamara.
All questions that you ask me about Kamara, I'm going
to take in non-PPR.
Because in PPR, I'd have a
hard time trading him for just about anyone.
Okay.
I think I'd rather have
Barkley in non-PPR.
I don't think he's a buy low,
but people might be freaking out about the offensive
line. Like I said, that one
great carry, other than that 24 carries for 40 rushing guards,
he might have a tough time with rushing guards.
Total yards should be there.
There's no competition for touches.
And he'll get the touchdowns.
Dalvin Cook.
All right, he's a buy low.
Heath talked about that.
Leonard Fournette.
How do you feel about Leonard Fournette right now?
I would like to know how Leonard Fournette feels right now.
Yeah, me too.
And I, for the most part, I feel about the same as I did before this season.
Okay.
So Fournette or Cook?
I'd take Cook.
He's healthy right now.
And I know that he had a little hamstring.
He said it was a cramp.
Yeah.
I'm going to believe him.
Kareem Hunt.
Kareem Hunt is the number 23 running back in non-PPR, number 32 in PPR.
That is outrageous for a guy on the number one offense in the NFL.
Looking at the last five years, the number one offense in the NFL
and where their running back ranked,
Noshaw Marina was fifth, Eddie Lacy was sixth,
Jonathan Stewart was 16th, Devontae Freeman was sixth, and Sean Marino was fifth. Eddie Lacy was sixth. Jonathan Stewart was 16th.
Devontae Freeman was sixth, and Todd Gurley was first.
So, I mean, I know we had some concerns about Kareem Hunt.
I think a part of them were, like, overall concerns about the offense
and the offensive line.
Those questions appear to have been answered.
If Kareem Hunt, he has one catch.
That's the weird part.
But if he's getting 17 carries a game for the best offense in the NFL,
how is this guy not a buy-low candidate?
Well, I don't know that the offensive line questions have been answered.
Like Patrick Mahomes has been phenomenal when dealing with pressure,
but Kareem Hunt's averaging 3.6 yards per carry after averaging 4.9 last year,
and I don't think he lost any ability i don't the offense
didn't really change that much so now again it's been two games i'm not saying i think he's gonna
average 3.6 yards per carry all year but if he does that makes the touches a little less valuable
especially when all the touches are rushes and we know know about Andy Reid's creativity in the red zone.
He had a stretch last year where he went, what, 10 games without a touchdown?
Kareem Hunt?
He did not score a touchdown from week four through week 13.
Yeah, well, I mean, it could be possible that Patrick Holmes just doesn't throw to running backs.
He's basically thrown to his big three guys, Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, and Travis Kelsey, pretty evenly distributed.
And then other than that, it's just nobody else has more than three targets.
I think it will depend a lot, and this is not something we'll be able to know, on how defenses choose to defend the Chiefs.
Because Mahomes right now just doesn't drop his eyes. That was one of the biggest criticisms of Alex Smith,
is he was constantly looking to see how close that pass rush was
to see whether he should run or dump it off to a running back.
Mahomes has not done that so far.
But if teams just decide we're going to all-out blitz Patrick Mahomes
and see if he can handle it, I think we'll get more targets.
So how are you feeling about Kareem Hunt right now?
Are you confident in him?
No.
Of all the running backs that we've talked about other than Le'Veon Bell, he is definitely the lowest.
Yeah?
You'd rather have David Johnson than Kareem Hunt?
Yeah.
I wouldn't PPR for sure.
Yeah, that makes sense.
And then I think it's obvious to take Christian McCaffrey.
I say this and, of of course things could be different,
but there's no way I would take Kareem Hunt over Christian McCaffrey in PPR right now.
No chance.
And McCaffrey has 20 catches in two games,
and he's the number seven running back in PPR.
He's number 17 in non-PPR.
But do you expect McCaffrey to be a stud in non-PPR this year?
Not completely. The Panthers' offensive line isn't very good either.
We're not seeing McCaffrey really have a lot of success
between the tackles, and so I don't know
how long they'll continue to do that. And he's still getting less than half of the team's
rush attempts, because one of the things I was worried about with Cam Newton is
Norv Turner's never really had a running quarterback,
and I didn't think he'd stop running altogether,
but I thought maybe they'd cut back on it.
I think Cam's actually running more.
But you say less than half the team's rush attempts for McCaffrey.
That includes Cam.
Of course.
Yeah.
He's not being out-carried by C.J. Anderson.
No, if he was, he'd get four or five carries a game.
Exactly.
Are you concerned about any elite wide receivers right now?
I don't know where the cutoff for elite is.
I think the top eight, you know, from Brown to Devontae Adams,
I think that was eight.
Yeah, maybe you had T.Y. Hilton in there too.
I don't know.
Yeah, no, right?
Like they're all pretty good.
Yeah, so far no, yeah, no. Right. Like they're all, they're all pretty good. I mean,
it's so,
so far through two weeks,
I feel like it's been a pretty good start for the,
uh,
zero RB crowd.
I,
I don't know.
And I'll tell you why,
because,
uh,
yeah,
the wide receivers have been great.
So that maybe is making up for it.
But the mid round running backs that I was excited about,
I don't know how they're doing.
Rex Burkhead's been bad.
I have a lot of Marlon Mack.
That was expected. We knew he was going to miss week one
and ease back in on week two.
Jamal Williams hasn't been very good.
I guess Sujeja has been good, but he was
more... In our leagues, he was a fifth-round
pick, and most leagues, he's a fourth-round pick.
Dion Lewis has been good. Dion Lewis has been good. Deion Lewis has been good.
I guess it's been a mixed bag. Matt Breida has been
usable, for sure.
I don't know how many people started him in Week 1.
Yeah. I mean,
sometimes you can compensate
for bad production from a few spots
by just having huge production from
A.J. Green. You know, if you drafted A.J.
Green, you drafted Michael Thomas,
it's okay if you drafted... Tyreek Hill. Tyreek Hill, for sure. Alright, I want Green, you drafted Michael Thomas. It's okay if you drafted him.
Tyreek Hill.
Tyreek Hill for sure.
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Heath, we covered round one.
Let's move on.
Round one and two, basically.
Here are some quick emails.
Sup, dudes?
Wonder why all the love for Chris Godwin.
He has big play potential, but last week he ran 17 routes in the game.
I haven't confirmed that, but I know he played 50% of the snaps.
He's the fourth pass catcher on the team.
Why is everybody so high on Chris Godwin?
He's fourth?
He's third.
Yeah, I think it's quite – I mean I think he's been fourth so far in fantasy production, right?
Behind Chris Godwin, who? O.J. Howard?
O.J. Howard.
Maybe. I don't know about that.
No, I think this is a completely fair question. I have not been quite as encouraged by the first two weeks of Godwin as have others.
But through two weeks, he's second on the team in targets.
And I do think he's a more complete receiver than Deshaun Jackson.
And I don't think Deshaun Jackson's going to catch all of his targets
and average 30 yards per catch much longer.
So that's why.
Okay.
Yeah, Goblin and O.J. Howard have the same amount of fantasy points in non-PPR.
Goblin ahead in PPR, but Howard does have 53 more yards than him.
Goblin has two touchdowns to Howard's one.
That question was from Callie from Vegas.
This is from Nick.
Should I have any fear of starting the Rams DST
against the Chargers this week?
I could have the Browns, Dolphins, or Cowboys.
I don't.
I'm pretty much viewing the Jags and the Rams
as matchup-proof top 12 defenses.
It's not like you're going to carry two defenses
and you couldn't drop them.
John from Pittsburgh.
I've been offered Jarvis Landry for Josh Gordon.
Must take it, right?
Yeah, I think you need to do that deal.
This is from Prajwal K. from East Lansing, Michigan.
Dear Bauer, O'Brien, Palmer, and Almeida.
Is that 24?
I have no idea.
Probably.
Yes.
I don't think I've ever seen 24.
I've watched a lot of 24.
I watched it for like two seconds and I saw the split screens and I was like, guys, this is the lamest thing I've ever seen.
But apparently I missed out on a very good show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's the question?
Who cares?
No, here's the question.
Who should I start this week at RB2?
Buck Allen, Tariq Cohen, Isaiah Crowell, Aaron Jones.
Does he say if this is PPR or not?
Standard.
I thought PPR was standard now.
Okay, so give me the names again.
Buck Allen, Tariq Cohen, Isaiah Crowell, Aaron Jones.
Isaiah Crowell. Yeah.
And this is Justin in Texas.
Hey, George, Ronald,
John, and Theodore.
Presidents? Presidents.
James White or Carlos Hyde this week?
I think you have to go James White.
Okay.
Now, I think that
you're pretty low on Carlo's side.
We're going to preview that game in a minute.
But the guy gets a ton of carries.
He gets a lot of red zone and end zone carries.
Yeah, I think I've got him, what, 24th?
I think that's pretty low.
He's been pretty bad.
Yeah, he's scored in both games, though.
Yes.
So there's that.
You know, I usually save this for the end,
but I think, Heath, I'd like to get it started
a little earlier today with some regulating.
You cool with that?
Oh, yeah.
I'm always cool.
Always cool to regulate.
When they'll preview the game after this.
We got some gray in the trade.
We got more buy low, sell high.
Nathan from Fort Mill, South Carolina says,
Hello, gentlemen.
I proposed a trade
on Sunday morning to a member
in my league.
Anunua for Yeldon.
He waited until after kickoff
of both games
to accept the trade.
By doing this, he prevented me from being able to use Yeldon,
but had Yeldon in his lineup and was able to use him in his lineup.
Now if Fournette comes back, Yeldon is useless to me,
and of course I would not have proposed the trade.
Had I remembered it was there, I still would have removed the trade.
Had I remembered it was there, still I would have removed the trade.
So he offers him a Nunwa for Yeldon.
This jerk waits until the 1 o'clock game starts.
He starts a nunwa and Yeldon.
Then he makes the trade, which is effective for week three.
The question that Nathan has, should the trade not be void once the players involved in the game begin?
Should he be allowed to trade a player and still be able to use said player?
I'm the commissioner.
I don't want to use that power to void the trade unless the regulators think i have a leg to stand on oh man nathan until that last
sentence i thought you maybe had a chance to wiggle your way out of this one but when you're
the commissioner you are sunk uh yeah this was a completely totally. Like the other owner in your league. And I wouldn't necessarily even fault you for just saying, no, that's BS.
This will not stand.
But it's your responsibility to withdraw the trade offer when you no longer want to make the trade.
He accepted it.
If there's no review process in your league, trade goes through.
I say no.
This regulator disagrees because it's very difficult to be on top of your trade offers,
rescinding them as soon as –
I don't care.
This guy knew what he was doing.
This was a dirty move.
He offered a trade and he accepted it.
This was a dirty move, and I think – you make a good point.
He did offer a trade and it was accepted. Yes. I still think – this is what I would do.
As the commish, I would take a league-wide vote and say,
should this trade go through and let the league decide.
It might be a little late now.
And I don't think we did a great job.
So you can listen to me or you can listen to Heath and you can consider this one regulated.
More to come later with the fantasy regulators. Right now it is time for the Jets and the Browns. If you want to go to this game, I personally don't want to go to this game.
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Browns. Stat of the game.
Hard to find a stat of the game for this one.
But Quincy Inunua has 21 targets in two games.
No other Jets pass catcher has more than 11 targets.
Heath, who would you rather have rest of season, Quincy Inunua or Carson Wentz?
Quincy Inunua.
Okay, good.
Obviously, it's a number two receiver or a number two quarterback.
It's an easy choice.
We are sitting the quarterbacks.
I'm going to try to make this game quick.
I want to talk about trades.
We're sitting the quarterbacks, right?
Correct.
If you're in a two-quarterback league, Tyrod Taylor, Dave and Jamie have him 20th and 21st.
Heath does not have him ranked in the top 24, but he's a better option than Darnold, I assume?
Yeah, I think he probably is.
I don't want to start either one.
I have Darnold actually projected for about a half a point more than Tyrod.
Okay.
Tyrod does have some good recent history against the Jets with the Bills for what that's worth.
As far as the Jets go, let's talk about the running backs.
Who do you like better?
A 75% on Powell, a 95% on Crowell.
In non-PPR, I think you have to start Crowell over Powell.
Both of them are flexish.
You could even, if you had Crowell as your number two running back, I wouldn't hate it.
They're kind of in the same spot in PPR, only I just flipped them.
I'd rather have Powell than Crowell.
And Crowell has been completely uninvolved in the passing game thus far.
He has two catches.
Powell had only one catch in week one, but he had five in week two.
So it makes sense.
Would you prefer Isaiah Crowell to them?
Isaiah Crowell to the Jeff Langdon?
Sorry, I'm still on Cleveland.
This is a revenge game for Crowell.
Would you prefer Carlos Hyde to them?
I prefer Carlos Hyde over either
one of them in non-PPR.
Hyde and Crowell are back-to-back.
Very, very close. In PPR,
Bilal Powell is my favorite.
Really?
What do you have against Carlos Hyde?
22 carries in Week 1, 16
carries in Week 2.
The Jets' defense has been better than I expected.
Carlos Hyde's averaging like two yards per carry.
Probably less than three.
What's that?
Probably less than three.
2.8.
2.8?
There you go.
Yes.
And he has virtually no involvement in the passing game.
He's been saved by, like, I love Carlos Hyde.
I think he's a talented running back,
but he's been saved by one touchdown each week.
And maybe he scores that touchdown this week.
But if it's a guy that I'm thinking is going to score six or seven fantasy points
and maybe he scores a touchdown,
that's a low-end borderline number two running back.
And the Jets are allowing 3.4 yards per carry to running backs.
Would you go with Carlos Hyde or Phillip Lindsey?
Definitely Hyde in non-PPR.
In PPR, I'd take Lindsey.
Actually, I've got Lindsey higher in both.
Okay.
Would you take Carlos Hyde or Chris Thompson?
Thompson in both.
All right. We got the wide receivers here. Jarvis Landry is a must-start.
What about Quincy Nunwa? Is he a must-start?
Yes, he's a must-start. Any receiver that's getting 10 targets per week is a must-start.
Hyde or Nunwa? Flex?
Definitely a Nunwa in PPR.
It's not close.
Yeah.
In non-PPR, I'll still take Inunua.
Okay.
Quincy Inunua or Chris Hogan?
Inunua, easily.
Easily, okay.
He gets twice as many targets as Hogan.
He does.
All right.
Quincy Inunua or...
Ooh, here's the phone.
Will Fuller against the Giants.
Inunua. All right. You like Inunua. Will Fuller against the Giants? Inunua.
All right, you like Inunua.
You have him 16th.
So start Inunua.
And any other wide receivers?
Callaway, Higgins, Anderson, anyone else?
Callaway is a boom-bust flex play.
Same thing as Anderson.
Who would you prefer if you had to take a shot?
I'd prefer Anderson
still how do you feel about
David Njoku in this game he's now
73% owned
I really don't want to
get rid of like I have him ranked low this
week it's not
been a good connection between him and Terod Taylor
but
I don't want to cut him for a couple
of the scrubs that I have ranked ahead of him this week.
So he's outside of my top 15
tight ends.
But he's not somebody I want to cut because I do
like the targets he's getting.
So would you start Jesse James over him?
Would you start Will Disley over him?
I'd start Will Disley over him
for sure. And Disley's the one that I probably
would drop him for. Okay. You'd also start Evan Disley over him for sure, and Disley's the one that I probably would drop him for.
Okay.
You'd also start Evan Ingram, O.J. Howard, Tyler Eifer, a lot.
You have 20th, I mean.
You are definitely sitting.
Njoku, who, by the way, is second on the team in targets.
Yeah, that's positive.
Yeah, seven in each game, which is pretty good for a tight end.
It's fine for a tight end.
Just the production has not been there yet. It's tough to know how the Jets are against tight end. It's fine for a tight end. Just the production has not been there yet. It's
tough to know how the Jets are against tight ends. They face the Dolphins and the Lions.
So they haven't faced good tight ends, but they did allow a touchdown to A.J. Derby in week two.
Going back to last year, good tight ends did very well against the Jets, but this is a much
different defense. It's hard to know how the matchup is. For what it's worth, Tyrod Taylor faced the Jets last year twice.
In the first game, Charles Clay had four for 53 and a touchdown.
In the second game, Nick O'Leary had four for 51 at the Jets.
So twice, four catches, about 50 yards, one time a touchdown for a tight end
with Tyrod Taylor against the Jets last year.
And that is a cool stat.
It probably means nothing.
Cleveland DST or Jets DST, who do you like?
I've got Cleveland one spot ahead of the Jets,
but I added both last night.
Oh, you did?
Okay.
So I would start either of them over the Saints or Falcons.
That was my next question.
And you have the Cowboys.
You have the Browns 12, Jets 13, Cowboys 14.
Yep.
All good streaming options this week.
Okay.
I want to make sure I didn't mess up one thing here.
I just want to look at where Dave and Jamie have Tyrod Taylor ranked
because the rankings have been updated and basically the same.
Jamie's got him 22nd, Dave 21st, Heath outside of the top 24.
And that will do it for your preview of the Jets and the Browns.
Heath, buy low or heck no?
Jamal Williams, buy low or heck no?
Only if I can buy really low,
and I'd like to have Aaron Jones if I'm doing it,
but I've not been encouraged by the Packers' run game
or Williams' performance.
Well, 16 for 59 against the Vikingsikings is pretty good 15 for 47
against the bears not as much yeah i mean he has 31 carries and he does not have 100 yards or do
they have 106 yeah he's 106 with three catches for 12 yards that's disgusting okay um marlon
mack buy low or heck no yeah i would Yeah, I'd buy low on Marlon Mack.
I don't think there's anybody else there that's good.
So maybe, I don't know that he's ever going to be completely healthy, but hopefully he is.
Who else would you buy low on?
I'd be looking to buy low on George Kittleimmy garoppolo before this week i would be looking to buy low
on doug baldwin okay um i think you said you had dozens yeah i do we've talked about a lot of
players so far today okay good i hope we've covered the important ones. David Johnson we talked about.
Let's just look.
A good way to look at this is through the – I'd buy low on Alex Collins.
That's what I was going to bring him up because we mentioned him last Friday after the Thursday game.
Alex Collins.
Definitely buy low on Alex Collins. I can't imagine they're going to keep doing what they've been doing.
That's a lot.
Okay, George Cato, Jimmy Garoppolo, Doug Baldwin, David Johnson, Alex Collins,
maybe Marlon Mack.
Robert Woods, for sure.
I'm worried about touchdowns with him.
Yeah, I don't.
He leads the Rams in targets through two weeks just like he did
last year when he played and i don't think he's going to catch 50 of his targets for the rest of
the year so and he's going to score occasionally yeah i will i think mark he's good when i think
you know it's a buy low yes i think it's i think it's pretty obvious he's the best pass catcher on that team.
I mean, Garçon had his chance, didn't really do much with it.
They need Marquise Goodwin.
It's going to take Jimmy Garoppolo to a new height.
And then I would say maybe he's more of a buy high,
but I'm just sticking with this offense.
But Matt Breida, it was a great matchup against the Lions.
To me, we've been saying this since day one.
Some people were on Team Alfred Morris.
We've always been on Team Brita on this podcast.
And I just hope that he continues to take work away from Morris.
I think that at first, maybe for the foreseeable future, Morris is much more likely to get goal line work.
But Brita's just better.
Oh, Brita's so much better.
It's not close.
Yeah.
So maybe it's a buy high at this point, but I think I'd rather have him than Rex Burkhead.
Would you?
Yep.
Would you rather have Breida than Jamal Williams?
Yep.
So he's definitely someone that has risen.
For sure.
Sell higher.
No thanks, guy.
And the title sticks.
We haven't gotten a better replacement yet. Sell higher or no thanks, guy. And the title sticks. We haven't gotten a better replacement yet.
Sell high or no thanks, guy.
The Green Bay passing game with some potential fear about Aaron Rodgers' knee.
I'm not selling.
I don't think you can sell high on Aaron Rodgers right now because the original perception was he's the best quarterback in football, and now he's dinged. So I don't know.
Like, I wouldn't mind if I could sell high on Randall Cobb or Geronimo Allison.
I don't think you can sell high on Jimmy Graham.
He hasn't scored yet.
Yeah, he got called back, didn't he?
Yep.
That wasn't fair.
He got all excited.
He did the leap.
What about Devonta Adams?
I think if Aaron Rodgers goes down, it's a huge, huge deal.
Yes, it is.
But what's – Adams' value hasn't gone up.
No, so it's just selling.
I'm probably just holding unless I can really sell high.
Okay.
Drew Brees.
Drew Brees, week one, defense was terrible.
Threw 45 passes and scored 37 fantasy points.
Week two, I think they gave up 18 points.
Defense, I don't think, was that great.
I mean, the Browns left a lot of points off the board.
But through 35 passes, scored 21 fantasy points and six points per pass in touchdown leagues.
That sounds a lot more like last year's Drew Brees.
Mark Ingram will be coming back soon.
Would you sell high on Drew Brees?
I would sell high on any quarterback that someone was willing to pay me extra on.
Who else would you sell high on?
I would sell high on Chris Thompson
and
or Adrian Peterson.
I don't think the odds of either
of these guys playing 16 games is great.
Thompson's been
awesome, and he's a must start
as long as he stays healthy.
I don't know that I believe that's going to
happen.
I would sell high.
You can't sell high on him because he's hurt now.
There's not a lot of great running back sell high candidates.
If you could trade Alvin Kamara for a Todd Gurley or a non-PPR Melvin Gordon, I would do that.
I wonder if it makes sense to take one of those elite running backs.
I don't think it does, personally.
I think you want the stud player.
But I'll bring up the possibility just in case.
Take one of those stud running backs, Gordon, Gurley, whatever.
Get two starting running backs for him.
Who would those two running backs have to be for you to make that deal?
Yeah, unless one of them is Dalvin Cook and the other one is a must start,
I can't see doing that.
Yeah, go ahead.
In a PPR league, I could see trading Gurley for maybe Dalvin Cook and Mixon?
Or Dalvin Cook and Ingram?
Yeah, so I think that, like, let's say you had the number one pick and you took Todd Gurley.
Or you had, like, the number eight pick and you took Melvin Gordon.
And the guy with the number 12 pick, or the girl with the number 12 pick, took two running backs.
And they were Kareem Hunt and Christian McCaffrey or something like that.
Maybe turning Gordon into Hunt and McCaffreyrey or something like that. Maybe turning Gordon into
Hunt and McCaffrey isn't a bad idea.
Yeah, I mean, it's
generally a bad process to trade the best player.
Yeah, that is kind of
bothering me because fantasy football,
you don't start that many guys in fantasy football.
You know, and that depends. Some leagues do, and
that matters. Some leagues,
most leagues, you know, it's not like baseball, where
you're starting a lot more players.
One guy can carry your team in fantasy football to a degree,
but we just don't see in other fantasy sports, I think.
And you want to have that guy.
Upside is so important in fantasy football.
It can really cover up a lot of awards on your team.
So I'm not so eager to give up Melvin Gordon,
but I am acknowledging that he has had a favorable schedule in his first two games.
I said it.
I expected him to get off to an amazing start against Kansas City and Buffalo.
Gets tougher now, but still some favorable matchups ahead.
I don't know.
All right, Melvin Gordon for Kareem Hunt and Christian McCaffrey.
Who would you rather have?
It would depend on my team, but in PPR, I could see taking the McCaffrey side.
All right, Heath.
Let's finish the show.
We've got regulators coming up shortly, but I want to go through some intriguing stats.
Maybe we'll do some more of these tomorrow.
But you have some troubling target trends after week two, after two weeks.
What do you got?
Yeah, it's just wide receivers and running backs
who are getting far less action in the passing game than we expected.
One, we already mentioned Kareem Hunt.
I think he was around 12% target share last year.
He's seen 3.8% of the Chiefs' targets so far in
2018.
I'm trying to
pull the list up here. No problem. Marvin Jones,
16.3% of targets.
Kenny Stills, 15.6%.
Trey Burton, 14.7%.
Chris Hogan, 13.5%.
Kyle Rudolph, 12%.
Duke Johnson, 11.5%.
Jamison Crowder, 11%. Robbie Anderson at 11.5%. Jamison Crowder, 11%.
Robbie Anderson, 10.3%. Karima, 3.8%.
There you go. Yes.
Marvin Jones looks like
third or fourth in the pecking order in
Detroit, and it's going to be very difficult for him to be more
than a flex. Same thing for
Kenny Stills, and it may be even worse.
One thing you brought up, and through
two weeks, I'm a little concerned.
It's one of those things that you were right about,
is that Ryan Tannehill just hates Kenny Stills' guts.
Well, I mean, first week was great.
Well, but it kind of was.
He still didn't get as many targets as Jakeem Grant.
He's kind of a deep ball guy, you know?
I mean, sometimes you have to deal with the frustrations of it.
Marvin Jones is kind of a deep ball guy too, though.
Marvin Jones, the thing that he has in his favor,
he has four end zone targets.
Four targets inside the 10.
In the end zone.
He leads the NFL.
It might be a tie, but he's in first place.
You know, Stills is much more of a deep ball guy.
And the knock on Tannehill was that he couldn't throw the deep ball.
He's gotten a lot better.
So that's good.
I like Stills.
Not as much as you guys, but I just thought he'd be a little up and down.
Chris Hogan, I would be thrilled to sell him after scoring two touchdowns against Jacksonville
because his usage in the passing game is not one that would be conducive to a player you would own, much less start.
I guess my question is, but it's only two weeks.
So what does it mean to you should should we make draw conclusions from it well i'm not saying you should drop chris hogan
because of it but i would be willing to sell him i mean it's not like he's been a huge target guy
in the past or a good fantasy asset for most of his career. No, but with the Patriots he was when he was healthy.
He had, like last year when he was healthy,
he had one, two, three games with more than six targets.
I think, yeah, and he made the most of it.
I think zero games with more than 78 yards.
Honestly, he seemed touchdown dependent,
but it was the kind of situation where I really thought he would get the touchdowns.
It just made sense.
I think the point I would make here is the reason that Chris Hogan was a guy to like
or a breakout candidate was he got a four-week head start on time without Julian Edelman,
and he'd get more targets than he did last year. Last year, he played in nine games and had 59
targets. That's six per game. A little over, almost seven. So far, he's played in two games
and has 10 targets. He needs more than five per game, but I did think he was the type of player
that could be very good on a per-target basis just because he was the second most logical touchdown guy for Tom Brady.
He might be third behind James White.
And then Edelman will be back.
Edelman will score some.
And Josh Gordon's coming.
So, yeah, it's not a great outlook for Chris Hogan right now.
We'll do more stats tomorrow, get some good stuff.
Like Andrew Luck's yards per attempt is just eye-popping.
He's lower than Dak Prescott and Eli Manning,
two of the better quarterbacks in the NFL for sure.
But Andrew Luck is below Dak and Eli Manning.
That's a joke.
5.93 yards per attempt, got to talk about that.
Got to talk about Russell Wilson's rush attempts, all those stuff.
All those things are really interesting.
I mean, they're like a 5 on the interesting goal meter.
They're like a 7 on the interesting goal meter, maybe even an 8.
But they're not a 10.
You know what is a 10? The fantasy regulators are a five on the interesting-o-meter. They're like a seven on the interesting-o-meter. Maybe even an eight, but they're not a ten. You know what is a ten?
The fantasy regulators are a ten on the interesting-o-meter.
Let's do some freaking regulating.
Chris in New York says, Dear Benedict, Judas, Brutus, and Hanson.
These are people who stabbed others in the back, Heath.
I'm the commissioner of my league, and my league just... Wait, hold on.
Thank you. My league just revolted and trade vetoed me out of a huge steal. I had Julio Jones
coming to my team for James Conner. Give up Conner, get Julio Jones. While the trade is in my
favor, it's not the biggest heist of a trade I've ever seen before. The trade was agreed to, but as
it showed up on our group chat, the league went nuts and a coup was organized followed by a rain of vetoes coming
down on the transaction i know this has been discussed before but as the commissioner i have
to change this rule i will wait till next season but can you please elaborate again the reason the
veto system exists and how it should be used chris do you you know what causes traders and coups?
Weak leaders.
And that's what you were
by allowing trade vetoes
in your league. I cannot
elaborate the reason the veto
system exists and how it should be used
because it should not exist and it
should not be used.
It should have been regulated. Play the music. I'll tell you what, that It should have been regulated.
Play the music.
I'll tell you what.
That trade should have gone through.
It should have gone through.
All trades should go through.
Collusion trades should not go through.
Exactly.
Those players should be kicked out of the league.
You can't just kick everyone out of leagues.
If they collude, you can.
Well, you can't always find...
All right.
Next up.
From Matt.
Say I'm right.
You're not right.
I'm not giving you that. You're partially right up from Matt. Say I'm right. You're not right. I'm not giving you that.
You're partially right.
From Matt, should we start considering making the extra point worth two or three points
now that they are 30-plus yard kicks?
Hey, Matt, I've got a better idea.
Don't have kickers in your league.
You can't just make everything the way –
Ban kickers from your league.
Look, as a regulator, you have to step out of your comfort zone and answer questions.
No, as a regulator, it's my responsibility to tell people what is right and what is good.
No, but you could also answer the question, should he make extra points worth two or three points?
No.
No, it's worth one point in fantasy football.
It should be worth one point to your league.
Well, wait, wait, wait.
40-yard field goals are worth four points in many leagues.
50 yards are worth five points.
Yeah, but it's true.
So what do you think, regulator?
What do you think?
Oh, no, I think you should ban kickers.
All right, fine.
I will answer the question as the mature adult in the room.
No, they should be worth one point.
They're extra points.
I mean, I get it, but that one has been regulated.
Compromising and acknowledging these bad systems.
We're not helping people.
They're not bad systems.
Kickers count.
Kickers are people, Heath.
God, it's so mean to kickers.
What did they ever do to you?
Somebody kicked you at a young age.
You know what?
Podcast hosts are people too, but fantasy football would suck if we started getting points for things they did.
Okay, well, wide receivers.
Why should we get points for that?
They're paid to catch the ball.
They're awesome.
They are.
All right.
These are two different Joe Mixon trades and I think different perspectives.
This is from No Name.
There was a trade for Mixon on the table in my league that was outstanding for several days before his injury.
Following his diagnosis, the trade was accepted by the Mixon owner.
The owner who tried trading for Mixon before the injury is fuming
because the trade was not accepted until after Mixon was injured.
Do I allow this trade to go through or cancel the transaction?
This is going to make the guy who had the trade situation earlier really mad
because he's the commissioner and he can't
overturn his own trade in this situation i would i would have to really strongly consider
how soon after mixon was injured was this trade accepted did the person who had originally posted
the trade have an opportunity
to know that Mixon was injured? If he did have the opportunity to know that Mixon was injured and did
not pull the trade back, then again, it's a complete jerk move, but the trade stands.
So this is just a philosophical difference. As a commissioner, if the Mixon owner had a trade
offer out there, then Mixon got hurt, and then the trade was accepted, I would absolutely cancel this trade if the Mixon owner wanted to cancel the trade.
I don't like unhappy fantasy owners.
I think one of the jobs of the commissioner, he has to keep the league happy.
And a guy giving up an injured player – and I think it's tough to keep track of all your trade offers.
I don't think you should be responsible.
Maybe you're out.
Maybe you don't have time.
Maybe you just forgot.
That's why I said how long has it been.
It doesn't really matter to me.
I would cancel this trade.
I would cancel this trade.
If somebody accepted a Mixon trade offer today after we've known that he was out for a week, you would cancel it?
If the Mixon owner wanted to cancel because he forgot about the trade, I would cancel it.
Waivers just ran last night.
You would have gone to your league and seen that in your pending transactions.
I would cancel any trade that the owner didn't want to make.
Unless it's like you got bad feedback and you got cold feet or something.
But if you don't feel comfortable with the trade and you forgot,
that's the kind of thing that's just not important enough.
Fantasy football is supposed to be fun.
I agree, but you do understand that while you are making this one person happy,
you are upsetting this other person.
Yeah, but I think it's weighted strongly to the owner.
Who's not paying attention.
It's a reasonable amount of attention being paid.
Last one.
Jake from a city in Texas.
Regulators!
I'm too upset to even put a fun intro of names. I traded Mixon and my homes for David Johnson and Cooper cup on Thursday
afternoon before the game.
I gave up mixing in my homes.
I got David Johnson and Cooper cup.
It takes a week for,
it takes a week for trades to run through.
So I had to play mixing on Thursday after mixing got hurt.
My trade was vetoed by the league and the commissioner.
Have I been wronged?
I feel like a trade is a trade even if the other person gets hurt during the process.
Yeah, I think if you have a system to where it takes a league a week to decide whether
a trade's good or not, I mean, that's an awful system.
Yeah, regulate that.
Well, no, I'm supposed to just answer the
question and not comment on the way people run their weeks.
But in this particular
situation, it seems like a perfectly
reasonable use of
that week to now say the trade's not
fair because it's not.
Gosh, Heath.
We're like 0 for 4.
We're not going to agree on one thing.
Oh, so now you think everybody should say say make this guy go through with the trade.
Because the trade happened before he got hurt.
That's why I put these two –
The trade offer happened before he got hurt.
I put these two emails in here back-to-back on purpose because I see a huge difference between a trade happening after an injury and before an injury.
You can't back out of a trade after an injury if you already made the trade before the guy got hurt.
The trade was not finalized.
It takes a week to finalize.
No, it was finalized.
And he's not backing out of the trade.
There's also a veto process by the league and the commissioner.
They have to vote.
I don't think it should have been vetoed in this case.
They're voting against it.
This is a totally different scenario.
First of all, what the hell?
Trades take a week to go through?
That's the worst system I've ever heard.
That's terrible.
It's really bad.
If the point of that system was, hey, let's make sure nobody gets hurt in this week.
If so, then it gets vetoed.
Then fine.
That's your league.
Do what you want.
Overturn it.
If that wasn't the point of it, this trade has to stand.
It has to stand.
I'm Adam Azer and I propose this message.
It's already been overruled.
Well, it's stupid.
Jake, you got robbed.
Everything's stupid about it, yes.
I hated your advice today, your regulator's advice.
I think you were 0 for 4.
I'm an idiot moron who dropped Carson Wentz,
and you're an idiot moron who wouldn't make a $0 bid on him.
I didn't want to do that to you.
It was our team.
So you just didn't do waivers at all?
No, I did.
I put in a bid for Bernard.
We didn't get him.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
That's it.
We're out of here.
You didn't even look.
You didn't even look.
You've already given up on the team.
What's the worst team I own?
We love that team.
We're coming back.
All right, everybody.
Thank you so much for listening.
We'll be back on Thursday with Starter Set for the AMC home game.
See you.