Fantasy Football Today - 09/20 Fantasy Football Podcast: Buy Low, Sell High; LAR-SF

Episode Date: September 20, 2017

Need to improve your team? We've got plenty of buy low and sell high candidates on today's show including our favorite buy low guys (4:08) at the top of the show. Are we concerned about any elite WRs?... ... More buy low candidates (20:50): How legit is Carson Wentz (22:22)? Buy Cam Newton (29:44)? Isaiah Crowell (31:24)? Sell high on Derrick Henry (32:20)? Mike Gillislee (40:30)? ... Previewing LAR-SF (43:45), anyone to start other than the RBs? Then it's on to your questions, Team Name Tuesday on a Wednesday (49:50) and Grade the Trade at the end of the show ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! We're here to help you win the ultimate bragging rights. A fantasy title. Let's go! Now here's Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Update! It is Wednesday. Welcome to the show. Everybody knows Wednesdays are my favorite days. We get to talk trade. At the end of the show, we'll grade some of your trades, but a lot of buy low, a lot of sell high. We're previewing the Thursday night game that nobody is excited for. Dave, Jamie, Heath, how did the waiver wire treat you last night? Not bad, not bad at all.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Got a bunch of players that I needed. Yeah, I really didn't. I was outbid on a lot of players. I got some Richard Higgins, which is fine. He went for a lot less than I thought he would. I thought he'd be a little more popular.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Yeah, that's why I got him, because I didn't get anybody that went for more than I thought they would, obviously. Yeah, I missed out on J.J. Nelson by like 1% of my budget in one league, a couple bucks in another league. of my budget in one league,
Starting point is 00:01:06 a couple bucks in another league. Most added player in our leagues, J.J. Nelson, now 76% owned. He should be. He has a chance to be very good. I got a lot of Trevor Simeon. Three or four leagues I picked up Trevor Simeon. As we were saying off the air, Dave and Heath not really feeling Simeon this week. That's fine because I'm feeling Simeon long term,
Starting point is 00:01:28 and I put my fab money where my mouth is. Jamie? Go ahead and take long. You bought in. You know what? You know what I found interesting? Why do people buy into Alex Smith and Sam Bradford so quickly but not Trevor Simeon? Who's bought into Alex Smith? Oh, I mean, ownership percentage alone told me that people were buying into Alex Smith.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I mean, he was more than 50% owned. Trevor Simeon after week one was 50%. It was 20%. It's the week one overreaction. But Simeon was great in week one. Alex Smith is 77% owned. Trevor Simeon yesterday was 20% owned. Now he's 47%.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I'm not really sure why people would buy into Bradford and Smith and not Simeon. When Simeon has two really good wide receivers, and a lot of things going for him. He's a swell guy. I'll find out about Jamie in a second, but I've got to tell you about FanDuel. FanDuel's back. Sign up today, baby. Go to FanDuel.com.
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Starting point is 00:02:40 Hey, buddy. How you doing? I think I'm doing pretty well. I feel like I'm bringing the energy right now. I'm excited about Trevor Simeon. You should be. He's playing great. He's got a new offensive coordinator that believes in him.
Starting point is 00:02:54 And like you said, two receivers that he can lean on with a very, very good offensive line. And I put out my David Johnson trade request. Does anybody want David Johnson? I haven't gotten any nibbles yet. What were you expecting? I would take maybe like a Rob Kelly, hopefully a little bit better. Oh, I bet you would. Well, I'm seeing some of the David Johnson trades that are going on.
Starting point is 00:03:18 People are tweeting us, emailing us. I'm seeing what people are giving up for Johnson. Like what? I don't remember off the top of my head. You gave up Elliott for Johnson. Not straight up. That's not even close to what the deal was. That was part of it, though. I gave up Ezekiel Elliott for Johnson, DeMarco Murray, and Brandon Cooks.
Starting point is 00:03:34 That's different. Still part of it, though. Part of it was David Johnson, wasn't it? Yes, but I still at the time liked the deal for Murray and Cooks. David Johnson might be the best player right now. I don't think he's the best player right now, and that says something about everything in that trade. It hasn't worked out so far, but it's only been a week.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I would also like you to know that I've been getting screwed by the trade chart because I'm trying to make some trade offers right now, and Jade Arundars, who's listening to this show, no doubt, keeps going, well, Dave's trade chart says it's a bad trade, so I'm not going to make it. That's right. Check out the trade chart. No more tomfoolery from you, sir. What I want to know, who is your favorite buy low candidate right now?
Starting point is 00:04:12 Jamie, give me one guy. We'll do more later, but one guy who your favorite buy low candidate is right now. It's only going to be for a few more days, but go get Joe Mixon now because I think he's going to have a big day in week three against Green Bay, and I think this is the start of him taking off for the season. I don't know for sure he's going to have a big day against Green Bay. Well, obviously, eventually. Nobody knows for sure, but I think this is the start of him having a big day.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Have we heard anything that indicates that or is it just new offensive coordinator speculation? Exactly that. And Daniel's being hurt for the Packers. I think his time will come eventually. I don't know for sure that it's going to be week three against Green Bay. I wish it was week three against Green Bay. But you're right. He is a great buy low candidate.
Starting point is 00:04:54 But I don't know if you can buy low and then plug him immediately into your lineup for this week. Jamie would. Well, so what about the offensive line? It's awful. Yeah. How much will that hold back joe mixon uh if he gets a full workload i think he'll be in a similar situation to what we see like with leonard fernette who's got a bad offensive line like dalvin cook who's got a bad offensive line i think when you give talented players work they end up coming through with good production i don't know this for sure but from what i've seen in two weeks, I feel like the Bengals is the worst of those three offensive lines.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And I don't see a situation where he gets quite as much work as Cook or Fournette. So I don't see his upside being as high as those two, but it's much higher than his perception. All right, Dave, your favorite buy low right now? I think Demarius Thomas is an interesting buy low. I wonder if people are getting a little frustrated watching Emmanuel Sanders getting big games. And Jamie pointed out on FFT yesterday, not only did he score twice in week two, he almost scored twice in week one. And Demarius Thomas just hasn't come close.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Wonder if you could get him on the cheap and trade. Okay, let me give you a cool stat that I don't think I ever brought this up during the preseason, but during the Peyton Manning era with Demarius Thomas, he was Peyton's big-time red zone target guy. And last year, without Peyton Manning, Demarius and Sanders both had a lot of red zone targets, but it was tied. They had the same amount of red zone targets. That was a big shift in 2016.
Starting point is 00:06:26 In 2015, Thomas had 20 more red zone targets than Sanders. 2016, they were tied. They both had a good number, though. So far in 2017, only Dez Bryant has more, I think, red zone targets than Emmanuel Sanders. Only Dez Bryant has more targets inside the 10 than Emmanuel Sanders. I thought it was interesting. Kind of changing my perception of Emmanuel Sanders a little bit. He's a guy I never really wanted to own.
Starting point is 00:06:51 But he might be getting more red zone targets than we're used to. And inside the 10 as well, which is probably even more important. But no, I mean, I don't disagree, Dave. I just wanted to bring that up for both of them. And they have such a great quarterback, as we all know. Sanders has been frustrating to me for a couple of years and certainly last year because of his inconsistency. I went back and I watched those red zone targets on the first two weeks. He's looked phenomenal against man coverage and his speed makes him a difference maker compared to thomas but thomas has the size
Starting point is 00:07:27 so i wonder if when if they're in the red zone and it's zone coverage that helps thomas more and if they're in the red zone and it's man coverage simeon is looking for sanders like he did on the touchdown uh last week okay just wanted to bring that quirky little red zone stat into there and uh he, favorite buy low? I've got to say Doug Baldwin, don't I? One of the things I love the most about him is how low you can buy on him. People are asking on Twitter, do I just give up on Doug Baldwin? Is it time to drop Doug? Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:07:58 It's kind of like Sanders and overreacting to how good his start is. We came in knowing that Sanders was going to have great games and going to have stretches where he was terrible, and I don't know why we'd overreact to a great game. We came in knowing that Baldwin may be a little up and down. I still think he finishes as the top 10 wide receiver. I'm not concerned. Yeah, and on that front, I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:20 I would say A.J. Green is the guy that I am most actively trying to get, and I would just say, like, Green, Dez, Michael Thomas, Brandon Cooks. Are we down on any of them? Did you just name all of my buy lows that I sent you this morning? No, I swear I didn't even look. I didn't even look yet because you guys sent me a lot. I knew we weren't going to be able to get to all of them. But any of the top ten wide receivers that aren't producing right now,
Starting point is 00:08:47 are we down on any of them or are they all technically by a little? We all value them the same that we did. Yeah, I think two weeks in, it's not necessarily time to panic on those players because they're not hurt. Their quarterbacks, for the most part, are playing well. And I think you're looking at it as their time will come. I mean, that's just the nature of the position. They're going to be like Antonio Brown was a monster
Starting point is 00:09:10 week one. He disappeared in week two. Are you giving up Antonio Brown because he didn't have a great game in week two? Are you giving up on Julio Jones because he didn't have a great game in week one? No, but at least they had one good game. Right, but so if Baldwin or Green or Cooks, they have two good games in a row, so it's two of four.
Starting point is 00:09:26 So it's the same ratio. So I think you just don't necessarily hit the panic button yet, and that's why they're buy low candidates as opposed to, oh, my God, I have to give up on these guys. Is Odell a buy low candidate? Absolutely. For the exact same reason, right? A hundred percent. Yeah, but are you worried about – see, that guy, I'm kind of concerned about the ankle. I'm not concerned about the Giants' offense.
Starting point is 00:09:48 He was great on a bad offense last year, but the ankle – I just wonder, do you make buy-low offers? If it's super low, fine, but for guys that are hurt, how much are you willing to give up for guys that are playing through injury? Would you trade Mike Evans for Odell Beckham? No, I don't think I would. No, because those guys were close. The interesting trades I think are going to be the people that are selling running back. I don't know if it's
Starting point is 00:10:11 starters or death, but just running backs for those upper echelon receivers, at least the ones that were pegged coming into the year. Are you selling Carlos Hyde and C.J. Anderson for Beckham, for Green, for... I'd try to. I don't know, Baldwin or Cooks, because Green, for... Oh, I'd try to. I don't know Baldwin or Cooks because they're probably... The value of those guys at their position is probably better than what those receivers are
Starting point is 00:10:32 if they're right, if they're able to stay healthy in terms of running backs. But can you get A.J. Green? Can you get Odell Beckham? Can you get... Maybe somebody's willing to punt on Jordy Nelson because he's hurt for Mike Gilleslie or Anderson or Hyde. Yeah, I guess it depends on your roster. And of course, check out that trade chart and find out if you're making good trades or not. Yesterday when I was making ad drops, I want to get your take on this. One of the
Starting point is 00:11:05 conundrums that I run into is do I pick up a guy like Chris Johnson who I guess I think could be okay or do I pick up a guy like Jamal Charles who could be useless unless CJ Anderson gets hurt which happens and then
Starting point is 00:11:20 Charles would be, I think, a lot better than Chris Johnson or there are many, let's say, lottery tickets, as we call them on the show. Who are some lottery tickets that you'd be looking to pick up right now, even if they were giving you very little production? And, you know, do you prioritize them over the kind of boring but might get 15 touches guys like Chris Johnson? That's kind of like what we talked about with Bilal Powell yesterday.
Starting point is 00:11:46 So Powell still has lottery ticket appeal to a certain extent, but he's not doing anything for you right now. So it's the decision you make. Do you hold on to him or do you move on to the next guy, like a Jalen Richard or a Deontay Foreman? Or I would even say more so than Jamal Charles would be Devontae Booker because I don't think Charles' role will change dramatically if Anderson goes down. But if Booker's healthy, I think he will step into that role.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So Wendell Smallwood, James Conner, any of the guys that are in good situations, if the starter were to go down, that's the type of player you want to speculate on. The interesting one to me is in Dallas because who's now the number two guy? Is it Alfred Morris? Is it Darren McFadden? And so which one is worth speculating on? Right. You know, Jay, let me interrupt you, because I got this email. I was going to say real quick, the ideal situation you want is the Rashard guy, you know, the guy who's getting playing time, but is also an injury away from being a potential superstar. Right, and so that's a great point. So Patrick writes in, he's got Ezekiel Elliott,
Starting point is 00:12:50 and somebody just dropped Frank Gore. Would you drop, he said McFadden, it might be Morris that people have now, would you drop Ezekiel Elliott's handcuffs to pick up Frank Gore? Yes. He says yes. Yeah, because you're waiting for Elliott to get hurt or still suspended while Gore can be a potential flex. Like if you have both guys this week and you're, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:18 let's say there's a Thursday injury or a Friday injury or something happens on the injury report, you could plug Frank Gore in as a flex. You can't do that with McFadden or Morris. All right, let's do some news and notes. Ben McAdoo could give up play-calling duties. Would that excite you guys? Can he block? Probably.
Starting point is 00:13:37 He was better with the other hairdo. What would have to happen for him to give up all of his duties this year? I don't think it's completely out of the question at the end of the year. I don't think it's going to happen mid-season. They're a disaster. So lucky last year. I can't believe I picked them to win the division. That was when I thought Ezekiel Elliott was going to miss six games.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Originally, I didn't have them making the playoffs. They're going to struggle. I wish I had been on Philadelphia's side a little bit more. They look good. They do look good. Dak Prescott expected to play despite an ankle injury. That's a Monday night game at Arizona.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I don't know if anybody saw, I read this morning Jeremy Fowler's article about the Steelers' offense on ESPN.com. And what he was saying was that they are placing such a priority on ball security this year, particularly Ben Roethlisberger and interceptions. And he's just not really interceptions. And he's just not really taking risks. And he doesn't care about getting guys touches anymore. He doesn't care about spreading the ball around. He says he cares about winning. If they have a problem with not getting the ball, then hey, it's all about winning. You know, it was Jeremy Fowler used to
Starting point is 00:14:39 work for CBS Sports, and I like him. He was a really nice guy, and he's a great writer, and covers the Steelers very well. It wasn't the most exciting, encouraging article for fantasy owners to read about Roethlisberger prioritizing ball security and turnovers, and their offense has been pretty disappointing through two games. Do you guys make anything of that? Has it really been disappointing, though? I mean, they always do this on the road.
Starting point is 00:15:04 They've got Le'Veon Bell. He's been a total dud so far. Yeah, but, I mean, after not having training camp, you had to expect a little bit of a lull. But for whatever the reason is, Bell's not met expectations. Brown's not met expectations. Yeah, but— He did for one week. I would just look at it and say for one week he was great.
Starting point is 00:15:26 They played a terrible team on the road. And as we know with week one, those are like Super Bowl-type games for a lot of these teams that aren't good because they sell out with their preparation to make sure that they can make a good impression. I mean are we really arguing about that? No, no, no. But then they come home to week two and they face one of the better defenses in the NFL. All right. I'm just saying. So I don't really face one of the better defenses in the NFL. All right. I'm just saying. So I don't really see a problem with them.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Oh, okay. At all. Okay. I think Stewart's owners are a little disappointed, but that's fine. Would you say that Ben has met expectations or underperformed considering what his road woes have been? Yeah, he's been right around. He's been fine. He's been like 21 points a game.
Starting point is 00:16:04 He's exactly 20 points. 21 week, 21 the next. And again, great defense at home. And Mike Zimmer has been great against him in almost every meeting that those two guys have had against each other. And then you have Bryant. Adam, you talked about this leading into the Cleveland game. Great at home, terrible on the road. He was bad on the road.
Starting point is 00:16:23 He was great at home. Antonio Brown was great one game. He's been, terrible on the road. He was bad on the road. He was great at home. Antonio Brown was great one game. He's been better than A.J. Green. He's been better than Odell Beckham. He's been better than Julio Jones. And he's played one more game than Mike Evans. I don't know why we're complaining about the Steelers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I don't think there's a difference between it's unjustified and I'm worried about them and they've been disappointing based on what their expectations are. They've clearly not lived up to what their draft position was. Really? There's a reason for it. The only one really has been Le'Veon. Well, Le'Veon, yeah, I mean, he's been awful. It's not true.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah, Antonio Brown has not been. He had 180 yards. What do you want from the guy? I'm just saying, if you want to take a look at just basic stats, you want to see where Antonio Brown is at wide receiver right now? He's probably not in the top ten. I think he's fourth. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Is he really? Because most everybody's had one nice game. Well, it's pretty bunched. It's pretty bunched, yeah. So he's – He's basically tied with Jermaine Kearse. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, Kearse had two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Pittsburgh's got three road games in their next four. And the other two road games, they play Chicago this week. That should be easy. They're at Baltimore in week four, at Kansas City in week six. That's where you might see some bad numbers. But after that Kansas City game, half their road schedule is done already. That's right. Their second half is going to be great.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yep. All right, cool. Do you expect the following players? Dave, you can do this segment. Jordy Nelson. Not as of now. Randall Cobb. I kind of think he'll play.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Tyler Eifert. Not up front, but I think he'll play. Tyler Eifert in that same game. I don't think he'll play. Jimmy Graham. I think he'll play, but not play well. Rob Gronkowski. Gronk will Gronk.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Jordan Reed. Reed will play. Reed will read. Terrence West. I don't know if he's going to go. All right, that one's up in the air. Jordan Howard. Same.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Reed and Howard are in the same boat. West and Howard. DeMarco Murray, it's a big boat. DeMarco Murray in there? Yeah, I think he's the captain. He's got the hat on and that funky jacket with the sleeve thingies on the shoulders. Not the sleeve thingies, but the little... What is that on the shoulders?
Starting point is 00:18:37 I'm ignorant to this. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm picturing DeMarco Murray as the captain of the love boat, basically. I think it's their rank. I am the captain now. He's the big man there. He's MLB. That was a long-winded way of saying DeMarco Murray may not play this week.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Make alternate plans. Chris Hogan and Danny Amendola, do we think they'll play? Hogan, yeah. Amendola, not so yeah. Sam Bradford. Mike Zimmer really gave no indication. So as of now, I would say no. And finally, Corey Davis. Nah. All right. What is, anybody know off top of their head, Danny Amendola's ownership? 47% or 48%. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:19:26 That's a guy worth stashing, right? In PPR, especially? Absolutely. All right, Danny Amendola. Probably should have talked about him a little bit more yesterday. My apologies, but not a bad guy to stash if you've got the roster space. All right, let's get into buy lows and sell highs, then we'll preview the Thursday night game.
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Starting point is 00:20:46 More buy lows and sell highs. Dave, why don't you give me some more buy lows. Give me a couple here. Is Mark Ingram a buy low? Sure. Terrible play the first two weeks, but when he has had the ball, he hasn't looked so bad. Just really hasn't
Starting point is 00:21:02 had the type of opportunities that we like. We believe that Adrian Peterson is kind of done so maybe the pay the maybe the saints are going to make him done so and ingram can take over in that main role with alvin camara doing the passing downs work and once that offensive line gets both of its tackles back it's going to be a really nice unit so i think there's a lot of positives with Ingram. If I had him and I do in a couple leagues, I'm hanging on to him, not panicking. And I think he's going to have some really good games beyond week three. So who's a better by-low since we think both could get a similar role,
Starting point is 00:21:42 Ingram or Mixon? If we're talking who's got role or upside? Well, I mean, they're pretty similar, right? Yeah. Because I think Giovanni Bernard's not going to go away unless he gets hurt. I think they really like him in that pattern. I'll say Ingram because it's better offense when everybody's healthy. Mixon's the better talent.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Maybe. Mark In's the better talent. Maybe. Mark Ingram's pretty talented. I agree. Their offensive line's not in good shape either. The Saints. But their line can get better. It can get better, but right now
Starting point is 00:22:19 it's messy. Dave, I know you wanted to talk about Carson Wentz. Whether he's a buy low based on people's perceptions of him or if he's a buy high. You could have just waited until sell high when I put him in the list that I sent to you for sell high. Oh, you would sell high on Carson Wentz? I saw Carson Wentz. You think we've seen the best of him already? Yeah, I don't think he's going to consistently throw for 330 yards and two touchdowns every week.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I'm getting questions on twitter should i drop russell wilson for carson wince oh i don't know if i'm ready to do that i one of my favorite by lows is a quarterback in the same division that i would rather have than carson i know who you're going that's kirk cousins yep no and i think a lot of people would rather have wince than cousins right now right now. I thought you were going to say Dak Prescott, who I also think is a buy low guy. I'm not sure if I'd rather have Dak than Wentz the rest of the season. Or Cousins. I would definitely rather have Cousins. If you had to rank them, what would you do?
Starting point is 00:23:16 Cousins over Wentz. Me too. I was driving home yesterday and just thinking about buy lows and sell highs and Adam Azer and MeUndies and all the wonderful things in the world. And I thought, you know, we really should have expected Kirk Cousins to start slowly. New offensive coordinator, new number one wide receiver. This really shouldn't be as surprising as it is. The preseason, they were bad. But I believe he gets
Starting point is 00:23:46 healthy this week i agree against the raiders defense traveling across the country they're not that good in the first place cousin's gonna be just fine and it starts this week i feel like i said it after week one and i still feel that way after watching him against the rams i feel like he's close like he's just missing. His throws aren't missing. It's his receivers that are letting him down. He's not leaning on... We thought Jamison Crowder would be a far more...
Starting point is 00:24:13 a bigger tool in this offense. Both guys, I think, get right this week. I hope they do. Especially if Reed's banged up. I've got him in a lot of leagues, and I agree. I think Kirk Cousins is good. Let's talk about Wentz, though. Obviously, we have different viewpoints here on Wentz, who's been very good.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I don't know, top three quarterback so far, maybe? Yep, number three. Number three. And he's 89% owned. He scored 22 fantasy points at Washington. He scored 28 fantasy points with a late touchdown at Kansas City. They don't have a running game, so that helps Carson Wentz, I would think. I think the one thing,
Starting point is 00:24:48 just to put it in perspective with Wentz, sell high, buy low. There's an owner, for the most part, in every league that's looking for a quarterback because of the Andrew Luck situation. So depending on how that owner prepared, whether it was spending an early pick on two top 12-ish type quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I'm sure the guy who took Luck and Stafford is loving life right now. The guy who took Luck and Wentz is loving life right now. But there's probably a lot of people, because of what we said, was Luck and Carson Palmer or Luck and Andy Dalton or Eli Manning, whatever the case may be. So that's the type of owner you want to make a deal with if you have Wentz on your bench or you don't want to or you don't like the guy that you drafted to pair with Wentz. But I think if it's just – like I have Cam in Wentz in one league, and I'm starting Cam over him this week because I don't think that's a question just given the scenario.
Starting point is 00:25:40 But moving forward, I'm going to hold on to Wentz with the scenario of if Cam continues to suck, I have a great fallback option. So I think Wentz is playing what the expectation was. I know Dave was high on him in the preseason. I had him as a sleeper in March. I looked back at my early sleepers column. We looked at what he did when he had a full complement of an offensive line in front of him. Lane Johnson was on the field for six of those games. He had four games with at least 20 fantasy points. So you're seeing a guy that's taking that second year leap, and the hope would be is that it continues. But I don't know if anybody is going to give you much in return for him because of the position that he plays and the thought that this could start
Starting point is 00:26:23 to come down just because he's a young quarterback that we haven't seen the track record with. Yeah, one other thing with Carson Wentz. He's got the Giants this week, then he's at the Chargers, which could be good, and then he's got Arizona in Week 5. He might struggle in two of his next three games. He's going to stink this week. I mean, yeah, it's possible. But Giants' past defense is not – Eli Apple is struggling right now.
Starting point is 00:26:46 If Janoris Jenkins doesn't play – Yeah, but Jenkins is expected to return though. Yeah, that should help. Okay, I thought he would struggle at the Chiefs. He scored 28 fantasy points, you know. Okay. Yeah, and look, and just to put it in perspective, eight of his fantasy points in week one, he had a 22-point game, right? Yep.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Eight of his points came on that fluke play to Aguilar. It was a 50-yard touchdown pass. 58-yard touchdown pass. And is he going to rush for 55 yards on a consistent basis like he did last week against the Chiefs? Nope. He runs. Running is part of his game.
Starting point is 00:27:21 But he's played a little bit over his head. Okay. Don't you feel like the whole offense runs through him though like there's no like running back there he is he is taking the steps that you like to see from a young quarterback there's absolutely reason to believe in him but i don't know if anybody's trading for him with the hope of i have my guy for the rest of the year i think it's more so i'll give you this junk on my team for this and something else, and Wentz is part of it.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah, well, how about the trade that I actually did make for Carson Wentz last week? I traded in a standard scoring league, Theo Riddick, for Carson Wentz, and I'm putting in a bid in that league, waivers didn't run yet, for Trevor Simeon. And honestly, I feel like between Simeon and Wentz, I'll probably be okay most weeks at quarterback. I think – I don't know that I have a great one there, but I think between – Should I outbid him since we're in the same league? You don't need – Adam, who did you start that season with at quarterback?
Starting point is 00:28:18 Eli Manning and Carson Palmer. Okay. So anybody that has those quarterbacks needs to replace them. And that's why Wentz at the low price tag, because he's a quarterback, because he's on a lot of people's bench. He's owned in 89% of leagues and started in 27%. I think he's a great guy to go and pick up and roll with for now. And you don't have to give up a lot for him. No, but also, as Adam alluded to, he's going to struggle this week.
Starting point is 00:28:46 He may struggle in two weeks. And you're going to see him probably cut because he's a backup quarterback in a lot of people's fantasy. So you're dropping Carson Palmer to pick up Simeon? No, I'm dropping Eli Manning. I'm going to have three quarterbacks for the time being. Kind of big rosters in that league.
Starting point is 00:29:02 So if I don't get Simeon, I'll start Palmer this week. I might start Palmer anyway. All right. I'll outbid him for Simeon. You're not going to outbid me for Simeon. You don't need him. Your team's incredible.
Starting point is 00:29:13 So, Jamie, give me one more buy low. What about Elliott? Zeke? Yeah. Yeah. First bad game. People still concerned about the suspension that don't know legalese. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:27 How about this? I got an email yesterday from somebody who said, should I give up Kareem Hunt and Kobe Fleener for Le'Veon Bell and Zach Ertz? Yes. Yes? If you can buy low on Le'Veon Bell or Ezekiel Elliott, then you obviously do that. Jamie, you have Cam Newton as a buy low. Sure.
Starting point is 00:29:48 All right, talk to me about that one. And Isaiah Crowell. Those two are interesting. Cam and Crowell. Well, I mean, both guys have really been terrible. And Cam, this is the week to buy in if you're going to do it because after he has this game, you're not going to be able to get him cheap because people are going to still hold on to him and think that he could be great.
Starting point is 00:30:04 So if you can get him, get him now before he plays the saints who he's got a great track record against and obviously new orleans stinks but do you think he'll be good after the saints game cam newton i i i think there's still a chance i mean i i i don't think he's going to be as big of a bounce back candidate as he could have been potentially with olsen now out for eight weeks because that's a big piece of what that offense is, clearly. But I also don't think he's going to be as bad as what he's shown the last two weeks. I think he's, like he said, he's working out the kinks, and this is kind of what he said about Cousins.
Starting point is 00:30:34 He's got weapons that he's never really had to use before. You know, guys that he's never been, as we've talked about a lot, he's never been a guy that's dumped the ball off to running backs consistently out of the backfield. He's going to have to do that now. He's got Kelvin Benjamin, I think, still working lot, he's never been a guy that's dumped the ball off to running backs consistently out of the backfield. He's going to have to do that now. He's got Kelvin Benjamin, I think, still working through whatever he's been working through with the poor start that he's gotten off to. Funchess is going to be a little bit bigger piece of the offense now. Samuel will be a bigger piece of the offense now.
Starting point is 00:30:56 So maybe he's going to have to go back to running the ball with a little bit more, what did he call himself, a lion? You can't slow down a lion or whatever his quote was. Well, he's pretty slow right now. Would you rather have Wentz or Cam rest of season? I'd rather have Cam's upside. If Wentz doesn't have upside, I'll take Wentz. No, Wentz absolutely has upside, but I think Cam's ceiling is still a little bit higher. And the same thing with Crowell.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Look, he's had two very tough matchups, which has been unfortunate because people are clearly upset after drafting him in the third round. And he's not doing as much in the passing game, I think, as we would have hoped. But the schedule will get a little bit better. This is one of those weeks. And again, if you want to buy in, buy in now because this could be the game where he has 10-plus fantasy points, then nobody's going to part with him.
Starting point is 00:31:51 All right, Heath, did you do enough buy lows or do you want to do sell highs? Well, I did Doug Baldwin this time, and you named all the rest of mine earlier in the segment. So I think we're T.Y. Hilton. You never said T.Y. Hilton. At some point, i do believe andrew luck is going to play football this year they're clearly being cautious so i feel better about the idea that when luck comes back he may actually be andrew luck at that point t.y hilton is going to
Starting point is 00:32:15 be a top 10 wide receiver again okay so give me a sell high heath uh sell high i had wince i'll say derrick henry a lot of people seem to be presuming that Derek Henry won the starting running back job in Tennessee last week, and it doesn't matter if DeMarco Murray is healthy because Henry is so much better than him. I don't believe that at all. If you could go sell Henry for somebody that is actually a number two running back, I'd be happy to do that. And people are a little bit too excited maybe about Michael Crabtree. What would you expect for Henry, though? Yeah, I was going to ask this question.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Right now, given the fact that Murray, let's just say he could miss a couple weeks? Yeah. Well, it doesn't help a lot that his first game is a game. You mean what do I expect, performance, or what can I trade for? No, just to get in return for him. If you have Derek Henry and you want to trade him for one player to help your team, who would you be happy to get? I would trade him for one player to help your team, who would you be happy to get? I would trade him for McCaffrey,
Starting point is 00:33:06 who his value has dropped quite a bit since the start of the season. I think they're close. I would trade him. What if Murray's out for multiple weeks? If he's out for two weeks, I'd still rather have McCaffrey rest of the season. Would you trade Derek Henry for Chris Carson? No. Right. I'd rather rather have McCaffrey rest of the season. Would you trade Derek Henry for Chris Carson? No.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Right. I'd rather have Henry. I may regret that after Sunday. And you might regret that after today. Because we just – we don't – if DeMarco Murray is back at practice and Malarkey comes out and says, yep, everything's fine and he's still our starter and Henry's our backup, then Henry's value goes right back to where it was and you'd rather have Chris Carson.
Starting point is 00:33:49 But if he comes out and DeMarco Murray's not practicing and he ends up missing the game, Henry's going to go out there and have an every-down workload. It's going to be against Seattle. I don't think it's going to matter that much because I think that Tennessee's still going to run the ball just as aggressively as they would anyway. Well, Seattle's not been good against the run yet.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I know. I know. That's the other side to it. And they were in week one. Derek Henry, if Derek Henry does well, this is kind of an audition for him, isn't it? If he plays big and puts up numbers and shows that he's a true feature back in the NFL. It ought to be a 50-50 time series. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:21 And right before this DeMarco Murray injury, it was not. But what's the best case scenario for Derrick Henry? That's the best case scenario for Chris Carson is he gets, you know, 18 carries a game. Best case scenario for Derrick Henry with a healthy DeMarco Murray is not that. Timesure. Yeah. Right. But if it's 12 to 15 carries a game, which could easily be the case, given how that offense
Starting point is 00:34:43 is, his 12 to 15 behind his offensive line could be better than the 18 for Carson behind his offensive line. So workload clearly and upside clearly would favor Carson in that scenario. But scenario and situation could favor the Titans. I still think the Titans are going to have a big year. I still think they're going to win the division. And I still think that they're going to be in a lot of games where they're winning. So Henry, in a clock-k clock killing situation as we saw last week
Starting point is 00:35:05 could still be very good and if they're in a clock killing situation how often do you expect to see demarco murray on the field now that he's had two hamstring tweaks oh i i think if the titans had their ideal game plan it would be use murray early use murray on passing downs use henry late as the physical what did Rex Ryan once call Sean Green? It was something. A big fat bust? No. It was man, I forget what it was. It was
Starting point is 00:35:34 just something about him killing the clock. This is when the Jets were good and going to the AFC championship game every year. Who can remember those days? They weren't that long ago. But Derek, the move to make if you haverick Henry and you don't have DeMarco Murray, assuming Derrick Henry is expendable, is to go to the DeMarco Murray owner and hold him up bank robber style like people are doing to me in one of my leagues
Starting point is 00:35:58 where I might have to overpay for Derrick Henry. You don't have to do it, Dave. You've got choices. Well, not really because the rest of my team is in bad shape. Okay, moving on, moving on. Jamie, you have a couple of interesting running backs on your sell-high list. The key word is high. Get a lot for them.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Carlos Hyde and C.J. Anderson. Well, I mean, look, it's just two guys that have an injury track record that are playing fantastic right now. So Hyde, as we just said, ran through the Seahawks defense and may do the same against the Rams after what the Redskins just did. So given what his past has been, where he's had to miss half the season as a rookie, three games last year, he just gets nicked up and all this work could catch up to him. And the same thing with C.J. Anderson, he's never played 16 games. So if you can get, as we started the show with, if you can get one of those upper echelon type receivers for one of those guys, it's certainly a move to explore, especially since,
Starting point is 00:36:57 depending on when you draft it, those guys could have been in the rounds four to six range in your league, and they may not have been expected starters for you, especially if you ended up with a good third option. So if you can improve your roster in some way, shape, or form by selling extremely high on them, as you said, Adam, for superstar-type players, it's worth exploring. It doesn't have to be one for one. It could be two for two. So you try and get something in return. But I would look into it, but again, only for the best of the best.
Starting point is 00:37:32 All right, let me give you guys some players that I came up with for this segment. You just tell me if you agree or disagree. You guys covered a lot of them. But Bilo, if he is a buy low, on Devontae Parker. I actually think Parker made some seriously nice catches in that game, and he looks like he could have a beast year. And he has no more buy weeks, which is a slight advantage at this point. I love the upcoming schedule for him.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Jets, Saints, and Titans, then the Falcons, then the Jets again for Devontae Parker. I don't know that it's a buy low necessarily, but I'm calling Devontae Parker a buy. In fact, Heath and I just did buy Parker in the Rejects League. You guys feeling the Parker love? Yep. It was a very Devontae Parker game. He made a couple of spectacular catches. He had a couple of, I would say, bad drops, at least one bad drop.
Starting point is 00:38:28 It's so interesting how many targets Jarvis Landry got in that game. I wonder in games where Cutler's volume is not as high, does that mean Parker is getting six or seven targets a game? He's got number two wide receiver upside. Would you trade Lamar Miller for him? I kind of did. We kind of did, Heath. Yeah, I didn't love it, but we did.
Starting point is 00:38:48 We traded – Straight up. We traded Lamar Miller and Paul Perkins for Devante Parker and Thomas Rawls. And we have Chris Carson. And that's not a bad thing to do is to get a backfield and just see how it works out. So we gave up Perkins and Lamar Miller for Parker and Rawls. And I personally like it because I am thrilled to get Lamar Miller off my team. I knew that you wanted to go get a Dolphin, and so I was fine with it.
Starting point is 00:39:17 But I'd probably still rather have Miller. Who are your running backs now? Carson, Rawls, and who? One second. They're awful. It's the worst team. Derrick Henry. We have DeMarco Murray and Derrick Henry.
Starting point is 00:39:30 We have the Seahawks running backs in the tight end. We have Ed Javoris-Allen. It's not bad. No, if one guy emerges in Seattle, if Chris Carson emerges in Seattle, I feel like he's going to be better than Lamar Miller. And your receivers are now who, Parker and who else? Green, Demarius, and Devante Parker. It's pretty hot.
Starting point is 00:39:51 It's not a bad team. Yeah, except we have Cam Newton at quarterback. It's a good week to have. Yeah. We're going to win this week, Heath. We're going to win. If DeMarco Murray misses. It'd be shocking.
Starting point is 00:40:02 No, if DeMarco Murray misses this game, we get Derek Henry in there, we get Carson, AJ... Alright, we're going to win. AJ Green bounce ball. Which Titans running back will you start if Murray's healthy? Javoris Allen. You bench the whole team? What do you think, Heath? Yeah, definitely. Against Seattle? I think you'd go
Starting point is 00:40:19 with Javoris Allen there, half PPR. So Allen and Carson over either Murray or Henry. Interesting. I don't know. That would be a tough call. Speaking of which, tough call is on tomorrow's show. Also, sell high. I don't know how I feel about this.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I definitely want to sell him in PPR. Mike Gillisley. Yeah, I've thought about that. I almost put him on my list. The problem is he could still score 18 touchdowns. He may score more at this point but i i don't think i i think that's definitely not the most likely situation i'd put the over under at seven or eight the rest of the way so i mean i just don't know i know in my leagues i'm not getting enough for mike gillisley where i would trade him i think there's only two ways that you move mike gillisley and one
Starting point is 00:41:05 is if a deal falls in your lap and someone thinks they're being clever and selling high on cj anderson and they offer you anderson straight up for gillisley just kind of like a dream scenario that might happen in one percent of leagues and the other is if your team is one and one or oh and two and you've got some injuries and you've got some holes to fill, but you're okay at running back, Gillislee is the guy you pawn off to help other spots on your team. Okay. Well, he has zero catches on zero targets this year,
Starting point is 00:41:37 so he's not getting any additional yards that way. And I just feel like Gillislee is one bad game away, one like 45 rushing yards, no touchdown touchdown from being really hard to trade. You know? That might happen this week against Houston. It might, yeah. And then Carolina. 13-point favorites at home. There's probably a good chance that he scores here
Starting point is 00:41:53 in some way, shape, or form. Look, he's gotten 15 and 18 carries. Well, he's only got one way, shape, or form to do it. That's got to go light and carry. He can follow fumble. He's got 15 and 18 carries in two games. That's pretty good. That's pretty encouraging.
Starting point is 00:42:06 So he's not an automatic sell high, Mike Gilleslie. Last guy for me, Leonard Fournette. In the same sense that you could sell really high on C.J. Anderson, do you want to sell really high on Leonard Fournette? The workload is there, but actually he only had 14 carries last game. And remember week one, they surprisingly go into Houston and crush Houston. They're going to be terrible. The Jaguars are going to be really bad this year, I think, in terms of win-loss. So I'm worried about him falling behind
Starting point is 00:42:33 and not getting that many carries and could Fournette struggle in that scenario. What do you think? It's a very interesting week because the Ravens' best run stopper is probably not going to play in Brandon Williams. He's got a foot injury. And so I was not expecting Leonard Fournette to play well this week.
Starting point is 00:42:55 I still don't expect him to play well this week. But this makes things a little bit better for him because if they do show up defensively, which they did in week one, they did for a half last week. And we know what Flacco and the Ravens offense has been on the road. So if they can stay in a competitive game again, Fournette's going to get a lot of work, and he could easily be in the 70-80 rushing yard range.
Starting point is 00:43:18 But rest of season, do you think he's... I think he could be... Look, he's going to get a lot of work. That's what their offense is going to be. Lean on Fournette. Lean on their defense. Limit Bortles. You know, get in these messy, low-scoring type of games and see what happens.
Starting point is 00:43:34 So I don't know if you're selling high on him now. You're probably selling high on him after week one. So I don't think you're going to get fair value for him at this particular point. Okay. All right. Time to preview the Thursday night game, Dave. After I tell you about FanDuel. Good old FanDuel. I love me some FanDuel. I usually wait until after Friday, after the Big Starter Sit podcast episode. At that point, I know the matchups really well, and you're going to know them too. And you'll know the best bargains on FanDuel.com.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I've got Devante Parker in my lineup. I think he's a pretty good bargain this week. But last night I made a lineup. I'm having so much fun with it, I couldn't wait. I'm going to be making multiple lineups this week and probably most weeks going forward. And by the way, if you want to enter the Sunday Million for free, sign up on FanDuel.com and use the promo code CBSPOD when you deposit. CBSPOD when you click the Join Now button on FanDuel.com.
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Starting point is 00:44:59 Let's go to our next segment. Just kidding. That was it. I was about to do the theme song. I mean, I think it's hard to get away from Todd Gurley, even though the Niners are averaging, they're allowing 3.3 yards per carry. Everybody's going to start Gurley.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Any concerns at all about Carlos Hyde? The Rams run defense you think would be better. Aaron Donald, they said, was rusty in week one. Any concerns about Carlos Hyde this week, guys? Not enough to where I wouldn't even consider not starting him. This is going to be like the NFL has completely and totally embraced the terribleness of Thursday night football. And this is going to be a low-scoring smash mouth. It's like throwback Thursday is what Thursday night football has become.
Starting point is 00:45:44 We're going to show you what football used to look like before teams knew that they could throw forward passes. Jeff Fisher's going to love it. I don't have any concerns about Hyde. He'll be a top 15 running back. Well, 15 doesn't make him an automatic start. He's 9th for Jamie. He's 10th for Dave. He's 14th for Heath.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Would you start Jonathan Stewart or Hyde? I'd go Hyde. Yeah, Hyde. I think he's going to be fine. I mean, the Rams' run defense should be better than what it was last week, but they're also
Starting point is 00:46:14 facing a better run offense. The guy I would reasonably possibly start is in a PPR league. If Jordan Howard's out, I could see starting Cohen over him, but we won't know before then anyway, so we don't have that luxury. Unless Howard's ruled out, which is unlikely, I think, on Thursday. I'm not going to make it too complicated.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Start Carlos Hyde, start Todd Gurley. The Rams wide receivers, Watkins and Kup, so far this season, no wide receiver has had more than 64 yards against the 49ers. They have played Seattle and Carolina. And you know what's interesting? Like last year, they played Carolina, and Cam Newton scored like 30-something points. He had a huge game. And Russell Wilson, he scored 37 points. Russell Wilson scored 19 fantasy points in Week 17. He got hurt in the first game against San Fran. They definitely have been better on defense.
Starting point is 00:47:07 I don't know if it's legit or not. But tell me how you guys are approaching Watkins and Cup this week. I'm trying not to because the formula that the 49ers have used in the first two weeks is attack bad offensive lines, force quarterbacks to make shorter passes or bad passes, and compete in the game as a result. And their offense didn't come through to help them in either week, but at least they were close last week. And I think that same recipe will work for them this week.
Starting point is 00:47:37 The other thing that I don't like particularly about Watkins is that he's currently third on his team in targets. So ridiculous. Kup and Robert Woods have more targets than him. And Gurley. Gurley, too. Fourth, if you want to throw in running backs. So I don't feel good about Sammy White.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I still think Cup's in the number three receiver range just because he's going to see a lot of those short area targets. So in a game where Goff's going to have to get the ball off quickly, I think Cup's going to be heavily involved. I'm not starting any of them if I have any way of avoiding it at all. What about Pierre Garçon? Is he better than Kup this week? He's my favorite receiver in this game.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Yeah, I'd put him behind Kup, but he's going to see a lot of passes. Just probably won't score, which is typical for him. Yeah, can he give you the 6 for 81 that he gave you in Week 1, Pierre Garçon? Yep, potentially. Jermaine Johnson was banged up too in last week's game, which is typical for him. Yeah. Can he give you the six for 81 that he gave you in week one, Pierre Garcon? Yep. Potentially. Jermaine Johnson was banged up, too, in last week's game, so we'll see how he is. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:31 If he doesn't make it, that helps the matchup for Garcon. Would you start any of these guys over Dez Bryant? No. Nope. What? He's got Patrick Peterson. No. Jermaine Johnson wasn't even on the injury report Monday, so that's bad for him.
Starting point is 00:48:47 All right. I'm just – would you start – would you start – what's not as Tremaine? Jamison Crowder. Jamison Crowder over any wide receiver in this game. Yes, I think this is a breakout game for the Redskins. Yes, I would start him over any wide receiver in this game. All right. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Rams DST is number three for everybody. And we'll see if the trend continues of the Niners being good against number one outside wide receivers and giving up production to secondary receivers. It's kind of been going on for about eight games now going back to last year. So we'll see if that continues. So who is the secondary receiver that's supposed to benefit from this? I would think it would be Cup. But he's been the primary
Starting point is 00:49:29 receiver. I still consider, if you're talking about how they're going to cover these guys, like role coverage, I would think that Sammy Watkins would be the number one priority. That'd be my guess. So we'll see. It's been going on since last year, but that got me in trouble last week with C.J. Anderson, didn't it? Alright, it's been going on since last year. But that got me in trouble last week with CJ Anderson, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:49:46 All right. It's time to hear from the people. Emails, tweets, grade the trade. And, of course, Team Name Tuesday on a Wednesday. We missed it yesterday. Sorry, everybody. I know you're just devastated. This is from Stu.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Cup of Goffy. A nice Rams one-two punch there. I like it. I like that. Yeah. Here's another one. I get to sing. At the Cooper, Cooper Cup banner.
Starting point is 00:50:14 No. All right. From Ted, use check yourself. Use check. Kyle, use check. Anyway. And then Arlene's Darkwood team names. Darkwood Duck. Donnie Darkwood team names Darkwood Duck
Starting point is 00:50:25 Donnie Darkwood The Darkwood Knight Rises So to be clear the names that we're using this week For team names are Cooper Cup, Kyle Juszczyk And Arlene's Darkwood That's what we resorted to Nobody's using any of their starters Nope that's week three
Starting point is 00:50:42 It's going to be like. It's going to be kickers. Although we've already had the Young Way Coup ones. All right. Let me get to the emails here I wanted to read. From Ramon. Dear Rod, Brandon, and Jake. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Broncos? I don't know. Is that Jake Plummer, Brandon? Stokely? No, before him, right? With Rod Smith? That would be Ed McCaffrey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I was thinking Brandon Marshall. Brandon E.D. Nah, it doesn't matter. I ended up drafting – oh, see, this is why I think it's Broncos. I ended up drafting both Demarius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders in PPR. How do you decide who to start, Thomas or Sanders, on a week-to-week basis? I'm starting Thomas. He's getting the targets.
Starting point is 00:51:34 He's getting the catches. He's getting the yards. He's safer. He just hasn't been better. He might have been better week one. Yeah, but week two, definitely not. Nothing's happened to change my opinion from what we all thought before the season all right this next email is from tyler where's tyler from tyler's from miami why so low on alex smith this week uh yeah against the chargers why
Starting point is 00:51:56 so low on alex smith this week uh i've got alex smith i've got him 15th so i don't think that's the highest i've ever ranked Alex Smith, I think. He's a low-end starter, depending on how you look at it. Okay. From Sean. Sean Stewart. He's been at least 18 fantasy points in two games. Rest of season, Terrence West or Rob Kelly?
Starting point is 00:52:20 Two injured guys. I would take probably West over Kelly at this point. I will take Kelly, but Kelly at this point. I would too. I will take Kelly, but they're basically the same thing. From Jordan in a northeastern Ohio city between Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Is Erie in between Cleveland and Pittsburgh? I believe so. It is now.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Hey, Sonny, Donnie, Billy, and Bobby. Stranger things. I thought Heath was going to cheat and read it in the email and say, oh, it's this. No, those are Adam Sandler characters. Now can you name the characters, Dave? Sonny? I forget his last name. Sonny is the one with the dad.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Yeah, that's Big Daddy. Donnie? Nobody's going to get this. Donnie, I don't. That's my boy. I've never seen that. Billy is Billy Madison. Yeah, and Bobby.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Jamie? Oh, and Bobby. Jamie? Oh, I know. I would just like to say that that's my favorite role that I've ever played, and H2O is certainly my favorite when I'm out with Vicky Valenco. Bobby, would you answer this question for him? Sure. Yeah, Bobby, who do you like better for the year, Golden Tate or Jarvis Landry, half PPR?
Starting point is 00:53:27 Golden Tate or Jarvis Landry? I think that Jarvis Landry was very good in week number two, but his situation was somewhat matchup related. But Golden Tate is still going to be the better of the two. He's the high-quality H2O, and Jarvis Landry's a little bit of the low-quality H2O. But Mama said that both could be very good. Yeah, pretty good. I like it.
Starting point is 00:53:54 That was outstanding. That is a hell of an impression. Eric was... I don't know. Honestly, I don't know how I stutter as much as I do when I do it. Because it's not like I'm trying to stutter. It happens naturally. You're just in character.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yeah. What do we call that? You are Bobby Boucher. You're a method actor. Method actor, yes. Thank you. I thank you for that. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Love it. I don't really love that movie so much though. Are you kidding? It's one of the better Sandler movies. The best thing that I do is when I sing as Adam Sandler because I just go, a cookie for me, a cookie for you. Let's have a cookie and a big brown shoe, and then people pay me a million dollars. It's crazy. Was that a Frank Caliendo? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:38 But you did a great Frank Caliendo doing Adam Sandler. This is from Eric. He was offered Ezekiel Elliott for Kareem Hunt. Wow. Take it and run. Take it and run to a championship. Run like Hunt's doing because that's what Elliott hasn't been. Yeah, run unlike
Starting point is 00:54:56 Ezekiel Elliott. No, I would, but hopefully Elliott turns into Kareem Hunt. Are you 100% sure Elliott plays 16 games? Are you 100% sure Kareem Hunt plays 16 games? Are you 100% sure Elliott doesn't get suspended is really the question. No. I'm not, but I'm 85 to 90.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Yeah, I'm feeling it. We're feeling that no suspension this year. It seems to be where it's leading. Let's grade some trades. This is from DFS Daddy. Okay. Now, what's the grading trades. This is from DFS Daddy. Okay. Now, what's the grading system again, Adam? C is average.
Starting point is 00:55:30 And A is? A is great. C is heavily in your favor. I want to make sure. You said average. C is a completely fair trade. Yeah. Anything above a C.
Starting point is 00:55:40 We didn't lose. If you lose, it's C minus or worse. I've never done this the right way. Right. I've never graded the way Adam wants me to grade. I know. Would you like me to try for real this time? No, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:55:52 I like your stupid grades. All right. Grade this trade. Grade this trade. Grade this trade. Dalvin Cook and Amari Cooper. Dalvin Cook and Amari Cooper. For Le'Veon Bell, Brandon Marshall, and Jacquez Rogers.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Again, you're giving up Dalvin Cook and Amari Cooper. You're getting the best player in the deal, Le'Veon Bell, but also Brandon Marshall and Jacquez Rogers, half PPR. C-minus. I don't like it. You're going to drop. I mean, you're basically trading for Le'Veon Bell and Jacquez Rogers because I assume you don't have somebody
Starting point is 00:56:26 worse than Brandon Marshall on your team. And Rogers is good for two weeks. I don't even know if he is because he's got the Vikings this week and the Giants the next week. I don't know that you're going to feel comfortable starting quiz the next two weeks.
Starting point is 00:56:43 What do you guys think? C- for Heath, Dave? I think the Dalvin and the Amari side is a little bit better, to be honest with you, because I agree with Heath. You're cutting Marshall and Ja Quiz in short order. Okay. Jamie, you can grade this next one. Matt from the Sticks of New Hampshire.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Give Brady and Burkhead. Brady and Burkhead. Brady and Burkhead. Get Luck and AJ Green for Brady and Burkhead. Luck and Green. D. A. No, Jamie. You like this trade. You like, I think, right?
Starting point is 00:57:20 You're getting Green and Luck. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, if you're getting Green and luck, I like it. We've been doing this segment for 10 years. We still have no idea what the grade actually means. The green side is the better side? The green side is the better side. Matt also says,
Starting point is 00:57:37 P.S. I am still laughing at when Dave said the only thing he can dunk is a donut from a month or so back. I don't remember that, Dave. It's true. Wait, that's not true. I also dunked Oreos the other day. Nice. P.S.
Starting point is 00:57:50 They were delicious. Cookies and milk was great. My son dunks chicken nuggets in his milk. What do you think about that? Oh, you're kidding me. Which son? The eight-year-old. Well, he's eight.
Starting point is 00:58:01 You allow that to happen? He did fries in his milk, and it wasn't that big a deal, because you can dip fries in ice cream, and it's delicious. I've done fries in his milk And it wasn't that big a deal Because you can dip fries in ice cream and it's delicious I've done fries in a Frosty before But the chicken nuggets in the milk I don't know I made him eat outside Alright guys A few more trades
Starting point is 00:58:17 Troy, grade the trade Give Theo Riddick, get Joe Mixon Oh my god Yes, that's an A A for you, F for the other guy From Christopher Get Joe Mixon. Oh, my God. A plus. Yes, that's an A. A. A for you. F for the other guy. From Christopher.
Starting point is 00:58:28 The other guy needs to be drug tested. Dear Mel, Simon, Heidi, and Howie. No idea. I'll look it up. I think I know what it is. Oh, who? I think it's the judges on America's Got Talent. Nice.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Okay. Keeper League. I was offered Ty Montgomery straight up for David Johnson. PPR Keeper League. It's interesting. It's easy in seasonal, but in Keeper League, you give up Johnson for Montgomery. Grade the trade. But next year, Johnson's a sixth-round keeper.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Montgomery's a 13th round. Yeah. It's just an important fact to throw in there. Thank you. B minus. I like it. I like it too. But your season's kind of over.
Starting point is 00:59:15 No. No, he's getting Montgomery. Oh, then your season's just beginning. We've been grading trades for how long and we can't? Last trade. Last trade. Dan in Chicago. PPR.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Ten teams. Give. Gurley. Dez. Buck Allen. Gurley. Dez. Buck Allen.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Get Antonio Brown. C plus. The team getting Gurly gets a B+. Oh, so you don't like this trade. I like the girly side. Yeah, me too. I'm going to give it F. Yeah, it's a little much to give it for Brown.
Starting point is 00:59:53 It's a 10-team league, though. I don't know. This is going to be really good going forward. You're giving away potentially three starters. Buck Allen should not be a starter in a 10-team league. But with all the injuries at every position, of course he could be. In PPR? Yeah. Come on, Heath.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Come on, Heath. Come around. C-plus. He'll win a championship. So, C-plus from Heath. Less than that from Dave and Jamie. Thank you guys very much. This has been a fun show. Back tomorrow with the tough matchups. See you later.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I would just like to say goodbye. It's alright. I've got Le'Veon Bell.

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