Fantasy Football Today - 09/21 Fantasy Football Podcast: Tough Calls, Tough Schedules, Buy/Sell

Episode Date: September 21, 2017

Before the Week 3 tough calls (last half of the show), we've got some sneaky RB adds you could consider (3:20) like Darkwa and Smallwood, best TE streamers for the week (6:51) and the upcoming tough s...chedules for Todd Gurley (12:40) and Kirk Cousins (16:00) ... Buy or Sell on Chris Carson (22:10), Derrick Henry (23:05), ARI WRs (23:18), Isaiah Crowell (25:00) and many more ... Tough calls for this week at QB (32:00) including Rivers and Palmer; RB (40:00) including the TEN, SEA and DET running games; WR (54:50) including a couple of Bryants, Alshon and Pryor ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! If you still draft quarterbacks in round one, we're here to help. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome to Thursday's edition of the Fantasy Football Today podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Tough calls for Fantasy Week 3. Who's going to be the best running back in the Tennessee-Seattle game? Are we going to trust Terrell Pryor this week? I got a new cornerback to tell you about that's looking pretty good so far. Could be interesting for fantasy matchups. I am Adam Azer. Follow me on Twitter at AdamAzer, A-I-Z-E-R. And he is Heath Cummings.
Starting point is 00:00:43 He's on Twitter at HeathCummingsSen. at Heath Cummings S-R. Heath, me and you today, and I'm going to start the show by putting you on the spot, something that we didn't rehearse that you have no idea is coming. Tough, tough question. Which football game are you most looking forward to in Week 3? That is a tough question, and I'm still trying to come down from the high of last night's game and the excitement. I don't want to rub it in too much because I know that your team lost.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Wait, what? But that was just a classic game and four championships in six years. That's pretty amazing. What on earth is he talking about? Like WNBA? No. No. The Sporting KC won the U.S. Open Cup for the fourth time in six years last night with a 2-1 victory over the New York Red Bulls.
Starting point is 00:01:29 That's soccer? That is soccer, yes. Wow. I didn't even realize. We should have had some type of side bet on that. Yeah. Interesting. So you guys suck.
Starting point is 00:01:39 We're awesome. That applies to the NFL too, unfortunately. Yes. The game that I am most looking forward to... I don't like this week that much. No, there are definitely some games that I like.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I like that Atlanta-Detroit game a lot. Yeah, me too. So that's got to be up there. I like Tampa Bay-Minnesota if Bradford plays. Yeah, I don't really. Seattle-Tennessee looks kind of sexy. I think Houston, New England might be a little better.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Oh, please. I don't know that it'll be close, but I think it will be interesting to see what Deshaun Watson does with his legs. Oh, my gosh. The last three meetings, Patriots won 27-6, 27-0 with Brissette, and 34-16. They had better defenses then. They're going to cream Houston. They own Houston. And the Sunday night game will be a blast.
Starting point is 00:02:37 The Sunday night, the Raiders and the Redskins. Yeah, that should be a pretty good one. And the Chargers game will come down to a missed field goal at the end. But the game I'm most looking forward to is Cincinnati at Green Bay. Why? For fantasy purposes? I want to see if Cincinnati's offense changes at all. I want to see if
Starting point is 00:02:53 Joe Mixon is now a feature back. So yes. Same here. And I want to see how that works out for our FanDuel teams. Because fantasy football is back and FanDuel is back. prohibited. All right, so a lot of things on today's show. Second half of the show is going to be the tough calls. We're going to start with some under-the-radar running back additions that you could make. Then we'll read some helpful emails, emails that should help everybody, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com, some buy or sell, a Mighty Ducks reference, and there we go.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Under-the-radar running back ads. I put four guys in here sorted by ownership percentage thomas rawls his ownership has gone down from 95 last week to 78 this week if thomas rawls in shallower leagues were on your waiver wire would you want to add him you know the problem is you see like 78 the rest of these guys i've seen the list i i believe i'm going to agree with more but it's 78 it feels to me like thomas rawls is probably owned in anything 12 teams or deeper. In a 10-team league, I'm not particularly interested in netting him. So I don't know that Rawls is really under the radar. I think he's appropriately owned. Okay. He's one of two or three running backs that people may have given up on after week two that could easily get more work than we expected in week three
Starting point is 00:04:29 and then be right back on the most added list. Not that Rawls was there. He was drafted. But Rawls is one. Kerwin Williams is another. You know, Chris Johnson was better. And I mean, in general, I don't know that anybody's all that interested in these running backs.
Starting point is 00:04:43 But would it shock you if Kerwin Williams had a better game than Chris Johnson this week against Dallas? It wouldn't shock me, but it would definitely surprise me. Okay. And then the third is another guy on this under-the-radar ads list, Wendell Smallwood. Look, LeGarrette Blount had zero carries last week. They can't get away all season without having a running game. Could Wendell Smallwood, 18% owned, be a flex at some point this year? Absolutely, and 18% is way too low for his ownership. Yeah, not this week a flex, but Smallwood is somebody you could stash.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Jalen Richard, he's 42% owned. He's on the most added list, but maybe still needs to go a little bit higher, as Jamie likes to say, a lottery ticket on Jlen richard you know that he's my dude the most talented running back in oakland yep uh yeah i i think he should be i i just yesterday for the first time did my stash rankings and it's the guys that may not help you this week but need to be on your roster and richard was ahead of thomas rolls towards the top of my list wow and then where is arlen's darkwa he is six percent owned two games last year for darkwa with double digit carries he had 10 for 53 and a touchdown against the redskins in the following
Starting point is 00:05:57 week he had 12 for 48 and a touchdown at minnesota so that's really impressive and could begin as early as this week where he starts to get more work than Paul Perkins. Yeah, I am not interested. But if you think, here's what my qualifier would be for that. I don't think the Giants running game is a Paul Perkins problem.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I said on yesterday's podcast, I think there's maybe five or six running backs in the NFL that I'd want to start in fantasy if they were on the Giants. Coraline Stark was not one of those five or six running backs in the NFL that I'd want to start in fantasy if they were on the Giants. Orleans Dark was not one of those five or six running backs. Right. But if you disagree with me and you think Paul Perkins is the issue with the Giants running game, then Darkwood should be towards the top of the list because I do think he's going to get more of an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah, I don't disagree with you about the Giants running game, but I just know in some of my leagues I'm so running back needy that Darkway is a guy that I might take a look at at just 6% owned. You like to write about streamers every week. Any good tight end streamers? You know, obviously it's a big week for tight end streamers because we don't know about Rob Gronkowski who, you know, it looks positive right now, but we don't know about Jimmy Graham.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Kind of looks negative right now on Jordan Reed and Tyler Eifert, and obviously Greg Olson out for half the season at least. So tight end streamers, Heath, who could we pick up? There's a lot of them. There are a lot of options because the nice thing about tight end is the bar is so low now to be a top 12 tight end that there's a lot of guys that could do that. Number one on the list, and his ownership's probably went up way too much since waivers ran but number one on the list tuesday was jack doyle i i spent 22 on him out of 100 in the 14 team league that's steep that's steep i don't know that jack doyle is
Starting point is 00:07:39 necessarily the answer until andrew luck comes back but his matchup against the Cleveland Browns in week three, they gave up 22 PPR fantasy points to Jesse James in week one. They gave up like 17 last week. They gave up eight for 91. So, yeah, 17 in PPR to Ben Watson last week. And only eight targets, by the way. Right. So, Doyle's the easy choice.
Starting point is 00:08:08 But assuming that he's owned in your league, I think for the Jordan Reed owner, it's pretty easy. Just pick up Vernon Davis. Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah. If he's out, the Raiders are not good at all against tight ends. That's pretty easy. If you're looking for somebody in a deeper league, or maybe you were a little slow to get around to the tight end this week,
Starting point is 00:08:30 I think Ed Dixon's going to get some targets. The Saints' defense is terrible. The Panthers are going to go up and down the field. I don't hate Dixon. And then somebody we talk about every week because people just will not add him. And he didn't have a good week last week, and you would think that he has a tough matchup this week as Charles Clay. But this Broncos defense just gave up 10-97-1 to Jason Witten,
Starting point is 00:08:52 who's kind of a carbon copy of Charles Clay right now. Yeah, and Ben Watson is—you're lower on Ben Watson than Dave and Jamie are, but Ben Watson's owned in about 21% of leagues. Doyle, by the way, is 71% owned. Vernon Davis is 3% owned. That's a really good one there. And Ben Watson is facing Jacksonville. And Jacksonville, I know they ended last year really struggling against tight ends.
Starting point is 00:09:17 This year, I don't know off the top of my head. I don't think we have enough. But they faced Houston and... Delaney Walker. And really all Delaney Walker did was score a rushing touchdown. Right, right. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I'm not... Like, I don't dislike Watson. He's in that same group. The reason I don't have him ranked as high, I don't think there's very many points scored in this game. Oh, yeah, in London. Yeah. I don't know how much Flacco's going to need to throw.
Starting point is 00:09:45 So, I just... I am not as excited about him. But he's not a terrible option. And then one more flyer. I mean, I don't want to rely on this guy, but Austin Savarian Jenkins. The Dolphins so bad against tight ends. Last week they gave up a touchdown to Antonio Gates and a big game to Hunter Henry. So you've got to be desperate. I think you're right, Heath.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I mean, Vernon Davis at 3% on is a really good call. That's a backup tight end for the Redskins. Not looking great for Reed. His coach said he's not healthy right now. So those are some tight end streamers that you can consider. And you should also consider movement watches. I am now the proud owner of a very stylish but not flashy, not excessive movement watch. And you can be too.
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Starting point is 00:11:36 Go to mvmtwatches.com slash ffootball and join the movement. All right, let's read some helpful emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. This one is from Dugan. Now we're going to look at some schedules, Heath. I'm going to drop some knowledge. Drop some knowledge. First part of the email, who has the bigger upside rest of season, C.J. Anderson or Christian McCaffrey?
Starting point is 00:12:07 I'm going to say Anderson and Standard, McCaffrey and PPR, that's so weak I'm surprised that's a tough call for you I would have thought it would have been an easy CJ Anderson Yeah, I don't think Anderson has more upside than McCaffrey and PPR I mean, McCaffrey's even with his bad starts,
Starting point is 00:12:26 how many catches has he on pace for through two games when he's been bad? I can tell you in a moment. McCaffrey has nine catches in two games. So 72 catches? Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, he's got a lot of upside in PPR, no doubt. All right, this is the second part of the question. I love it.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Is after this week, tonight Todd Gurley facing the Niners, is this a good time to sell high on Todd Gurley because his next five weeks, look at this schedule, at Dallas, you know, and we got in trouble with it with C.J. Anderson, but if Dallas is in a close competitive game, they often don't give up a lot of rushing yards. Yeah, I don't know if I buy that, but go ahead. I buy it.
Starting point is 00:13:09 100% I buy it. They dominate time of possession. It's not because they're so good. At Dallas, Seattle, at Jacksonville, Arizona, bye. At the Giants, Houston, at Minnesota. I don't see one good matchup for eight weeks, including the bye. Maybe Dallas. Maybe. That's the only one you can sit here and tell me is a good matchup.
Starting point is 00:13:32 In fact, they all might be bad matchups. Here's the problem that I have specifically with preseason strength of schedule going into the year. Because if we are judging by what we thought going into 2017, then I would agree with you. This looks terrible. If we're judging by what's happened in the first two weeks of 2017, eh. I don't know if it's that bad. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Fine. Seattle has just been run all over by Ty Montgomery. Seattle. No, no, no, no, no. They were not run all over by Ty Montgomery. Okay. I'm sorry. He had 100 total yards and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah. And that's the thing with Gurley. Gurley does catch a lot of passes now. But this is really interesting to me. Seattle's run defense, we have to buy. We have to. For how long? What if Derek Henry has a good game against them?
Starting point is 00:14:23 The Titans running backs often had good games against tough matchups last year. I went back. I looked at all of their tough matchups. I don't think they had any quite as tough as Seattle, but they did very well against the Chiefs. They did well against the Texans. They usually did well. So even then, unless they get completely demolished and run over, I wouldn't be too worried. Come on.
Starting point is 00:14:43 It's common sense. They were great against the run last year, and they added Sheldon Richardson, for goodness sake. They're going to be good. They're always good against the run. Okay. They've been not great against the run so far. We don't expect them to be good against the run this week. I'm not saying they're going to be bad.
Starting point is 00:14:57 All right. At Jacksonville, you seem to disagree on their run defense. We got into a huge argument on the show Sunday morning between me and Jamie and Pete Prisco over whether the Jacksonville defense was really great yet. And obviously they gave up 30-burger to Tennessee. And Derrick Henry ran all over them. So no, I'm not convinced that they're great. They're fine. Arizona, then a bye at the Giants, Houston at Minnesota. Look, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Whether or not it's a juggernaut every week, it's a tough, tough schedule. I can't imagine that there will be a running back with a harder slate of games in the next eight weeks after this week than Todd Gurley. So what do you think? It's possible. But if you could sell actually high on him, I'd be fine with it. But it better be like I'm not accepting top 12 running back value for Todd Gurley. I want top six running back value. Yeah, let's get a huge game tonight, and then we'll visit that.
Starting point is 00:15:59 All right, next email is another schedule email. It's from Carson from the 51st State. Taxation without representation. I don't really know what that means. I assume it's Puerto Rico. Yeah, it could be. Yeah. It may be a bit early to come to a schedule conclusion,
Starting point is 00:16:15 but I took a look at Washington's schedule when deciding whether or not to try to buy low on Cousins. And from week nine on, their schedule looks pretty bleak for quarterbacks and wide receivers. Week nine on, Washington has at Seattle, Minnesota, at New Orleans, Giants, at Dallas, at the Chargers, Arizona, Denver, and then at the Giants. So we got New Orleans, we got Dallas, we got the Chargers. Nothing wrong with that, but we also have Seattle, we have the Giants, we have Arizona, and we have Denver. So three good matchups, four bad matchups. Yeah, and then the Giants in Week 17 if you're playing there.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And that's kind of interesting. Weeks 15 and 16 for Kirk Cousins, Arizona and Denver. Do you care about that at this point? Do you care about this at all, week nine on? No. You don't. Okay. I mean, weeks nine through 12, you're probably sitting Cousins three or four times, as we look at it now.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Weeks nine through 12, that's Seattle, Minnesota, New Orleans, and the Giants. Yeah, I would say there's a chance that you're sitting him in a couple of those. Yeah, I'd say there's a chance you're sitting him in three of them. You know, like... Could change. This segment would probably... You'd get a lot more agreement if Dave or Jamie was on. Probably. That's why we like Heath.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Contrarian. But not intentional. It's not contrarian. It's just... Different philosophies. Different philosophies. Yes. Yeah. All right. Patton just different philosophies. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah. All right. Patton, South New York. Remember last week we had Central New York? We didn't know where that was? Right. What's South New York? I think New York City.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Okay. Is South New York. Shouldn't I know that? You should. Yeah, I think I should. Dear Rafi, Andre, Pete, and Kevin. That's the league. It is the league.
Starting point is 00:18:05 With Tariq Cohen cutting into Howard's playing time in the horrible Chicago team, is Jordan Howard worth keeping? Like next year or today? No, this is the second should I drop Jordan Howard being a bust have risen from 15% to 20% preseason to 45% right now. I am worried about Jordan Howard. There's no chance. I'm holding on to Thomas Rawls in case he gets more work this week. I'm not cutting Jordan Howard.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I think Jordan Howard might be a buy low if people are thinking about him like this. If people are thinking about him like this, yes. What is there not to like about Jordan Howard? He's not going to catch passes because Cohen's going to do that, but he didn't catch passes really last year. He's still going to be their running back. We don't know if he's going to play this week.
Starting point is 00:19:00 He's hurt. That's one thing. He's going to get, I believe, a smaller percentage of the work than he did in the second half last year. Yeah. I think it seems like an overreaction to me. They might be worse than they were last year. Here's a question from Yoel Whatup. Would you trade Jordan Howard for Joe Mixon in standard?
Starting point is 00:19:20 No, no. That is not buying low on Mixon, and that is definitely selling low on Howard. Do not do that. From Richard Hong in La Crescenta, California. Dear John Luke, Ben, Catherine, and Jim. I feel like this is one that I should know, but I don't. Okay, we'll look it up. Buy or sell, I am the fleeter owner, and I'm in trouble when Snead comes back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I don't know how much trouble you're in because you probably didn't give much for Fleener. I assume he's a matchup-dependent play. It's a 14-team league. He'll be – I mean, I expect him to be a top 14 tight end. You just have one of the worst tight ends in your league. Yeah, but a lot of people are struggling at tight end right now. Right. Jean-Luc, Ben, Catherine of people are struggling at tight end right now. Right. Jean-Luc, Ben, Catherine, Jim is Star Trek.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Never seen it. I shouldn't have known it. Yeah. From Jonathan, should I trade Derek Henry for Doug Martin? Give Henry to the DeMarco Murray owner for Doug Martin. I would make that deal. Yeah, I think Henry – you and I, I think, are sort of on the same page here. Henry's not going to just steal this job and run away with it.
Starting point is 00:20:30 No, his upside is working his way into a 50-50 split. Unless Murray gets hurt, which he already is. Yes. Right. All right, here's our tweet of the day. It is from Eli. Have you noticed the similarity between Ben McAdoo's new hairdo and Gordon Bombay's makeover in Mighty Ducks 2. Most likely the reason for the Giants' slow start, in my opinion. Fair.
Starting point is 00:20:52 I think that's pretty funny. Gordon Bombay, D2. I'm going to look it up right now. Are you a Mighty Duck? Oh, wow, yeah. Look at that. Slicked back hair and everything. But I see the Iceland coach in D2 also had slicked back hair.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I probably want to change that up, Ben McAdoo. Are you a Mighty Ducks fan? Are you too old for that? What do you mean am I too old for that? Of course I'm not too old for that. You're not? No. How old are you?
Starting point is 00:21:19 I am 38. I have no idea. I don't even keep track of it. Age is just a number. Okay. You have not – I know for a fact that you have not seen D3. You're too old for D3. No, I don't think I saw D2.
Starting point is 00:21:34 See? Yeah, you're too old. But I definitely enjoyed Mighty Ducks. Mighty Ducks is a great movie. I'm going to go ahead and guess that D2 and D3 both sucked. D3 sucked. D2, enjoyable when I was a kid. I don't know about sucked. D3 sucked. D2? Enjoyable when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I don't know about now. It's awful. Probably. You know what's not awful? Watching more football games. Do it on your laptop. Do it on your mobile device. Stream it anywhere. Your local NFL on CBS Games. They're streaming live on CBS All Access. Start your free trial at cbs.com
Starting point is 00:22:04 slash NFL. Not CBS trial at cbs.com slash NFL. Not CBS Sports, but cbs.com slash NFL. And even actually if you're on our cbssports.com NFL scoreboard page, you can click links and go watch games on CBS All Access. It's really cool. Do it, do it, do it. Buy or sell, Heath, from Cheers Hears Beers. Oh, okay. Cheers Hears Beers. Chris Carson okay. Cheers Hears Beers.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Chris Carson doesn't look back. Is an RB1 rest of season. Buy or sell? I buy the first half and sell the second half? Yeah. Yes. I buy that he doesn't look back, that he doesn't give this job up. I will sell that he's a running back one.
Starting point is 00:22:41 He's a number two. Never going to give you up. That would be the Chris Carson theme song. Yeah, you've... There's been a lot of times when you sang and I was like, yeah, that was pretty good. That was bad. Don't sing that song.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I just saw a video of Rick Astley singing that song with the Foo Fighters. Like, he comes on stage during a Foo Fighters concert and sings Never Gonna Give You Up. Yeah, weird. Carl Danzo. Derek Henry over Joe Mixon. Oh, we just did that.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Oh, no, we did Howard for Mixon. Sorry. Henry over Mixon. Sell? Sell. All right. From Endry. Buy or sell J.J. Nelson is now the best Cardinals receiver, even over Fitzgerald.
Starting point is 00:23:24 How dare you. Do not besmirch the name of Larry Fitzgerald on this program, sir. Sell. It's kind of interesting. It's like this is how many receivers are we going to say this is the guy over Larry Fitzgerald? Remember when Michael Floyd was the guy over Larry Fitzgerald? Remember when John Brown was the guy over Larry Fitzgerald? Remember when Anquan Boldin was the guy over Larry Fitzgerald? Remember when John Brown was the guy over Larry Fitzgerald?
Starting point is 00:23:46 Remember when Anquan Boldin was the guy over Larry Fitzgerald? Nobody's the guy over Larry Fitzgerald. Buy or sell. J.J. Nelson will score more touchdowns than Larry Fitzgerald. Not this year because he's already got his head start, 2-0. Or 3-0. Or 2-0. Sell.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Rest of season. No, I'm buying it. All J.J. Nelson does is catch touchdowns. You were also the guy that said Michael Floyd was better than Larry Fitzgerald. Michael Floyd is better than Larry Fitzgerald. Oh, my goodness. Just so we have it. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Fitzgerald doesn't score, but okay. He's selling it. No. Fitzgerald doesn't score. He had one bad touchdown year last year He's old bro Okay you can say that That's fine
Starting point is 00:24:29 David Paladino He has never seen D3 I guarantee you that David Paladino Buy or sell Jameis Winston is a top 8 quarterback this season Sell I didn't have it ranked that way before the season
Starting point is 00:24:40 I don't I don't think he's a top 8 quarterback Elliot Anderson Ed Dixon is a tight end one while Olsen is on IR. Buy or sell? No, probably not. Major sell. I don't know that it's that far off.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I'll sell, but I'm not angry like I was over the Fitzgerald thing. Spencer, buy or sell James White will outscore Isaiah Crowell in PPR. Very interesting one. If you're asking for week three, I think I'd buy that. I think I'd buy it the rest of the season. I'm going to buy it. Not a Crowell guy? I want to be.
Starting point is 00:25:19 There's a long list of players that are kind of on notice for week three. Like, it's time to do it. And he's one of them. Let me give you a good Isaiah Crowell stat, and I'll probably give it again later because he's one of the tough calls. Crowell in wins, Cleveland wins or one score losses last year. Only one game. So let's see.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I think there were six games. Six games where they won or lost by one score. Yeah, one score. Only one game with fewer than seven fantasy points in standard scoring leagues. And that's respectable. He had three big games. He had two seven-eight fantasy point games, and he had one terrible game in the six games. So with that said, based on last year, based on what should be a close game against the Colts,
Starting point is 00:26:07 it's probable that Crowell will be Seven fantasy points or more In standard Which is number two running back Or better You think that's a solid way to approach this week With Crowell? Yes Alright this is from Let's see next buy or sell
Starting point is 00:26:20 Original thought Just Russell Wilson Buy or sell Buy thought Just Russell Wilson Buy or sell Buy Dugout Derby Buy or sell the National Football League I don't have enough money to buy the National Football League But if I could sell it
Starting point is 00:26:36 I would be rich So I mean That would be kind of cool No I think the question is I guess meant like are we happy with the NFL? And of course we are. We love the NFL. People are going to complain every year about the quality of play.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Guess what? Peyton Manning's gone. We just got done with a golden age of quarterback play. Oh, boy. No, I'm saying it's fine. It's fine. It can't always be as quarterback friendly as it's been in the past. We were lucky in the mid-2000s when Breeze was in his prime.
Starting point is 00:27:12 These guys are still good, but Breeze, Brady, Peyton Manning are all in their prime. Aaron Rodgers was amazing. And we still have it, but I feel like the quarterback play is just not as good across the board. But that could really change. That could change soon. We've got good young guys, and next year we have a good crop coming in. Don't complain. I reject the notion that this has to be a passing arena league football league for it to be good football too.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I'm kind of looking forward to watching the Knights game. I actually have a – I'm not. I actually have a theory about defense. I'll unveil it at some point. But I think this is going to be a good year for defense. I see a lot of good defenses this year. I think the NFL should just start calling Thursday night football throwback Thursday night football. And every Thursday night we get two defensive teams with no good quarterback play,
Starting point is 00:28:03 and it's just slobber knocking. But the theory really is, Heath, since I do see a lot of good defenses across the NFL, I feel like these elite fantasy players will be even more valuable than ever this year. You know what I kind of compare it to? Starting pitcher. So you should get more really good players is your theory. Well, if you can via trade. You know, and maybe it's just like you stream everywhere else.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I don't know. I'm working on this theory. But it's sort of like what happened with starting pitcher this year where, you know, hitting is so up. Home runs already set a record for most home runs in a season. Pitching's pretty bad. And all of a sudden, the truly elite ones, the real aces, became very valuable fantasy commodities. And I just
Starting point is 00:28:51 wonder how many fantasy football players will be like that. If the production's going to be very top-heavy, or will it be spread throughout the league? I don't know. We'll see. We'll see how it plays out. That's it for Buy or Sell. Thank you very much. Ah, no, one more. Damon the Dog Walker. Buy or Sell cinnamon raisin bagels are the best kind of bagels,
Starting point is 00:29:08 and unless you say buy, your opinion is wrong. I buy it. No, blueberry bagels with peanut butter on them. This is ridiculous. Injuries, news, and notes. There are a lot of them, so pay attention. Sam Bradford was limited practice. As of right now, as of Thursday, are you expecting Sam Bradford to go?
Starting point is 00:29:23 I am not. Andrew Luck is not going to practice this week, so more bad news for the Luck owners. That was awful. Running backs. Tennessee is hopeful for DeMarco Murray to be able to play this week. That would be bad for everyone. Isaiah Crowell wants the ball. Give him the ball.
Starting point is 00:29:39 He'll get the ball. Rex Burkhead did not practice. Rob Kelly was limited. Rob Kelly says he will play with a protective pad on his ribs Sunday night against Oakland. On that same note, Jay Gruden emphasized the importance of keeping Chris Thompson healthy, saying he's not the kind of guy he can give 30 carries to. Not that we were expecting that. Also pointing out that Thompson is Washington's kick returner,
Starting point is 00:30:01 so that doesn't give you a great hope for like 15 carries from Thompson. Terrence West did not practice. As of right now, do you expect West? No. Orleans Darkwood could get more work. We talked about that. Wide receiver news. Danny Amendola is 47% owned, Heath, and he returned to practice.
Starting point is 00:30:17 He might be able to play this week, but even if he doesn't, let's say he's probably going to play next week and he's 47% owned. Danny Amendola had 100 yards in week one. He feels a lot like AFC John Brown. Well, very different players, though. Different players, completely. But when Amendola is active, I'm going to like him as a top 30 wide receiver. I don't expect him to stay active for very long.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Jordy Nelson practiced. Randall Cobb did not. Kelvin Benjamin did not practice, but is expected to play. Jarvis Landry mispracticed. Looks like just maintenance. Mike Wallace says he wants the rock. Let's see if he gets it in London. Corey Davis is not going to play this week. Hamstring. Will Fuller's back at practice, but he won't play. For tight ends, Gronk was seen participating at practice by all of the media, and then the Patriots listed him as a non-participant because that's the Patriots. Jimmy Graham did not practice.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Tyler Eifert did not practice. And Jordan Reed is just not healthy right now with the chest and toe injuries. So Graham, Eifert, and Reed all have a good chance of missing this week. Gronk, you think, probably plays, right? Yep. Offensive line for the Packers. Right tackle, Bulaga practice. Left tackle, Bakhtiari did not.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Kansas City is going to be without its center, Mitch Morse. Jacksonville is going to be without center, Brandon Linder. That could be. Could be. We'll see on that. But that makes Fournette a little interesting against Baltimore. Left tackle, Ryan Khalil for the Panthers' mispractice. Kyle Long should be back this week for Chicago.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And Atlanta could be without Ryan Schrader at Detroit. I'm not going to give you the defensive injuries right now because you're probably bored. So, Heath, let's go to the tough calls. And let's start with the quarterbacks. All right, we've got a couple of really good quarterbacks who don't have the best track record on the road. How do you feel about Ben Roethlisberger at Chicago and Drew Brees at Carolina? I am starting both of them.
Starting point is 00:32:16 And, yeah, I'm starting both of them without a whole lot of reservation. We do have the track record of Ben Roethlisberger on the road, and it's grown so large that even I can't ignore it. We don't have a very long track record of Ben Roethlisberger on the road with Antonio Brown, Le'Veon Bell, and Martavis Bryant all healthy, but when that has happened, he's mostly been good. All right, but he probably hasn't been great. Well, like 20 fantasy points, 300 passing yards.
Starting point is 00:32:49 20 fantasy points is like borderline top 12. Not now because of the new NFL where we don't have any good quarterbacks. It's possible. I mean, so far, 20 fantasy points have been really good. Ben Roethlisberger scored 20 and 21, I think, in two games. And I think he's number 10 right now in fantasy. Okay. You are very high on Drew Brees.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Dave and Jamie like Brees, but you have him second, I think? Yes. Is that right? I don't think this Carolina matchup is that difficult. I expect them to be fine at Carolina. Drew Brees is ninth for Jamie, seventh for Dave, second for Heath. Was it that difficult last year? No.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Brees scored 19 fantasy points. It was a Thursday. It was at Carolina. All right. Look, I mean, most people are going to start Brees. I don't think anybody's debating this. No, but maybe you have Carr. Like, if you have Carr and Roethlisberger, who would you go with?
Starting point is 00:33:45 I would go with Roethlisberger over Carr. You would? I'm not really excited. Like I'm going to start the Raiders. But that's kind of a bad situation with the cross-country trip. So I'm not totally excited. All right. Dave and Jamie have – well, they can talk tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:34:06 This is a Heath show. We're all about Heath today. No, talk about Jamie. I want to hear it. Carson Palmer. One of these days we're going to do a Thursday show, a tough matchups show with multiple fantasy analysts. It's going to be much more interesting. Oh, thanks.
Starting point is 00:34:22 No, I'm just saying just – It just would be nice to get a little debate going. That's all. Oh, thanks. He's had two great matchups. He's been disappointing. I have him 11th this week. I'm starting Russell Wilson over him. I'm starting Matthew Stafford over him. But I'm starting Palmer over Winston, Mariota, Rivers, Wentz, Prescott, and Eli Manning. And Simeon. Yes, I don't have Simeon. Simeon's behind every guy that I just mentioned.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Well, he should be ahead of Eli Manning. I'm sorry, he is ahead of Eli Manning. Okay, good. You know, actually, guess who has, well, I think the answer's kind of obvious now. Guess who has more passing yards this year, Trevor Simeon or Eli Manning? Eli Manning. Yeah. Trevor Simeon, as much as I like him, I do need to point he is he's the number one quarterback in fantasy with the 16th most passing yards yeah and he's again going across
Starting point is 00:35:31 the country to the east coast against the buffalo defense that's been very good so far yeah i don't know that they've played anybody worth here's the thing about that because jamie said this earlier in the week yeah they played cam Newton last week. They're facing Trevor Simeon today, or this week. We're going to say they haven't played anybody when they've played a quarterback that's clearly better than the one they've played this week. At this current moment,
Starting point is 00:35:56 I don't know that Cam Newton is clearly better than Trevor Simeon. I really don't. Look, man. He lost Greg Olson in that game fairly early. That's true. He played a lot of the game without Olson. I definitely think, without question, that Trevor Simeon has better weapons around him.
Starting point is 00:36:13 He has a better offensive line, I'd say, too. I'm really worried about Cam. I was worried going into the year. I didn't like it when we drafted him on our Rejects League team. He's not a good fit. This is not his style of offense. He needs a good offensive line. He needs pass protection.
Starting point is 00:36:29 He needs to chuck the ball down the field. And he needs to be a threat running the football. Since Cam Newton got his concussion last year, early in the season, he has not been a threat running the football. And he hasn't gotten to the 30-yard mark yet this year in two games. It's early. I think he looks like absolute crap. I really do.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I'm not saying he can't work it out. You know, he barely had a training camp in an offseason because of the shoulder surgery, Heath. So I get it. It could get better for Cam Newton. He's got new targets. He's got new weapons. But right now, Trevor Simeon is a better quarterback right now,
Starting point is 00:37:03 week three of this season, than Cam Newton. Yeah, I do not believe that. I completely and totally disagree with that. Phillip Rivers, tough call at Kansas City. I don't want to start Rivers. The Chiefs' deep pass defense gave up quite a bit to Carson Wentz without Eric Berry last week, but it was also a little bit fluky. I mean, 55 of those yards came on the pass that should have been intercepted
Starting point is 00:37:26 that Zach Ertz caught off somebody's hands. I've got Rivers behind Palmer, behind Mariota, behind Winston. You've got Rivers. So where is he in the rankings? 15. Okay. So Jamie's the high guy. Dave's the low guy. You're in the middle with Rivers, 15th overall.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Okay, great. And Cam Newton against New Orleans. We're all starting Cam Newton. He's Jamie's start of the week. I've got him fourth overall. I am very – I'm going to have to talk to Jamie about this one. I hope he's right. He didn't do well against New Orleans last year.
Starting point is 00:38:06 You don't care about that, do you? No. Have I ever cared about a player's history against a team? He scored 11 fantasy points. Oh, no, no, no. I'm sorry. He scored 13 fantasy points against the Saints last year. Again, it was a Thursday night game.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Those are usually not as high scoring. All right, Cam Newton. Start Cam or Ben? Cam. Cam or you'll take Breeze, right? I will say in 2015, he faced the Saints twice, threw for more than 300 yards both games in seven combined touchdowns. Yeah, he was a better quarterback back then.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Okay. What do you mean okay? He ran back then. He threw for 300 yards twice But he was a running threat He was a running threat, that matters And he had Greg Olsen Alright, I hope
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Starting point is 00:39:56 FanDuel.com. Promo code is CBSPOD. FanDuel.com. Promo code CBSPOD. Void where prohibited. Tough calls at running back. Let's just look at the – maybe we should save it for tomorrow with Tennessee. We'll revisit it tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah. But let's take a look at that game, Tennessee at Seattle. Who's your favorite running back in that game? That depends on if DeMarco Murray is playing. The way I'm basically looking at this is if Murray is out, then both Henry and Carson are number two running backs. Carson's a number two running back regardless. Henry would join Carson as a number two running back.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I would like Henry slightly more than Carson, but basically the same. If DeMarco Murray plays like they're hoping that he will, Carson's still a number two. I don't really want to start DeMarco Murray or Derek Henry. Give me your estimate for how many carries Chris Carson gets. 17.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Okay. And, you know, if he gets 17 carries, he's got a pretty good chance to score there. You said if DeMarco Murray plays, you don't really want to start either guy? I don't really want to. I mean, I understand you're going to be in a situation where you might have to. We'll have that decision to make, and I said it on yesterday's show. We might start Buck Allen over either Tennessee running back because we have all three. We have two Tennessee running backs, and we have Buck Allen,
Starting point is 00:41:25 who's got a tough matchup himself against Jaguars. It's half PPR, but do you think we should go Allen in that situation? If both of them are playing, I will have Allen ranked ahead of both of them. Yeah, so I looked at DeMarco Murray last year in tough matchups. He scored 17 fantasy points against the Vikings. Most of it was receiving. He had a big game at Houston, huge game at Houston. He had 123 yards and a touchdown against Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:41:49 He had a big game at Kansas City. And then after he got hurt, you know, not as good, but he struggled at Jacksonville. And then in Week 17, Murray struggled against Houston. But in that same game, Derrick Henry had 15 carries for 65 yards and a touchdown. So the Titans were generally able to run the ball effectively, even against tough matchups. Another thing, though, last year, I don't know if you care about this,
Starting point is 00:42:13 Seattle, they allowed 100 yards and 4.9 yards per carry to Carlos Hyde in week three. Now, a lot of it was garbage time. It wasn't quite the same feeling as Hyde ran all over them all game last week. But they took that horrible performance against Carlos Hyde, went across the country, and held Matt Forte to 14 carries for 27 yards. So are you going to have an angry Seattle defense chip on their shoulder? We know how they play. A lot to prove.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Come out and potentially shut down a Tennessee running back. I don't expect that to happen, but I am not confident enough that if they're going to chop up the work that I want to start either one of them. All right. We'll start comparing running backs and wide receivers as we get farther into the tough calls. So as of now, let me just get this straight. Chris Carson, number two, we're expecting about 17 carries. If Murray is out, you'd go Henry over Carson? Just barely, yes.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Okay. Isaiah Crowell at Indianapolis, if you remember what I said earlier, close games or wins last year, he usually did well. Only once did not. So starters did Isaiah Crowell, and how would you compare him to Chris Carson? I've got Crowell as a borderline number two. I've got him behind Chris Carson. My biggest issue with Crowell is that last year, even when he didn't get carries, because you highlighted it in the second half, he had a lot of games where he just didn't get that many carries, but he was still heavily involved in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:43:47 This year, that is not. And I thought when they moved Duke Johnson to the slot, that would mean that it definitely continued. They're just not dumping the ball off to their running back out of the backfield unless it's Duke Johnson. Without that work in the passing game, his floor is just so incredibly low. I still think he has a decent ceiling in this matchup. But this is kind of the opposite of the Seattle defense, because we expected the Colts to be terrible against the run this year. They have not been at all. No, they haven't. They've been very good, and you know what? I don't think they're going to have a great defense, the Colts, but they've given up
Starting point is 00:44:21 almost nothing to Todd Gurley in terms of yards per carry and the Cardinals guys. The longest run against the Colts through two games is 12 yards. And they have a very, very different defense. I mean, they've really – their defensive line is, like, completely different from last year. So maybe it's going to be solid. Maybe it's going to be okay. But I think, you know, he called for the ball.
Starting point is 00:44:43 He said, give me the ball. This is their best chance to win this week You know You like Carson better though I like Carson better I've got him as a borderline number two I would start him in a standard league Over Mark Ingram
Starting point is 00:44:58 You'd start Crowell over Ingram Yes I would start him over Jacquez Rogers Would you start him over Jacquez Rogers. Would you start him over Dez Bryant? I don't think I would, no. Alright, we'll get to Dez in a bit. So that's Isaiah
Starting point is 00:45:16 Crowell. Same game. Starter sit Frank Gore against Cleveland. Gore had a touchdown last week. And Cleveland is another team that hasn't been destroyed by running backs yet, but they allowed the second most fantasy points to running touchdown last week. And Cleveland is another team that hasn't been destroyed by running backs yet, but they allowed the second most fantasy points to running backs last year. They held Le'Veon Bell to four fantasy points, although they did give up touchdowns to both Buck Allen and Terrence West last week.
Starting point is 00:45:36 So Frank Gore. Frank Gore or Crowell? Crowell for sure. I've got Frank Gore as more of a flex type play. If you're not, like if it's a start-sit question when you have two running backs, I'm probably sitting him. I've got him Gore as more of a flex-type play. If you're not, like, if it's a start-sit question when you have two running backs, I'm probably sitting him. I've got him behind Ingram, behind Theo Riddick, behind James White, even in standard. Behind Riddick in standard, huh?
Starting point is 00:45:56 Well, you've got to remember, Riddick's going up against that matchup against the Falcons defense that is just awful against pass-catching running backs. Right. I actually have both Terrence West and Theo Riddick in PPR in our podcast league. And let's say West plays. I'm still starting Riddick. I'm starting Riddick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:16 PPR. All right. But in standard over Gore, that's interesting. Because Gore got 14 carries last week. He scored a touchdown. He did hit a nice week. He clearly you know, there maybe were some doubts about
Starting point is 00:46:27 how much work Mack and Turbin were going to get, but Gore dominated the carries last week. Yeah, Gore probably has a slightly better chance for a touchdown than Theo Riddick does this week. I expect Riddick to definitely have more yards than Frank Gore does this week. I don't think, the Cleveland defense was one of my low
Starting point is 00:46:43 owned DST streamers. You talked about what they did last year against the running backs. I don't think... The Cleveland defense was one of my low-owned DST streamers. You talked about what they did last year against the running backs. I don't even think that's relevant. They are a much improved defense. And I don't think they're going to be good this year because their offense is just going to put them in too many bad spots. But in a situation like this where they're
Starting point is 00:46:59 evenly matched or even slightly favored, if they can just keep them fresh, they could have a very good day defensively. Well, I'll tell you another defense that's a lot better against the run than it was last year, Denver. Denver has addressed it. They look great so far.
Starting point is 00:47:15 They held Ezekiel Elliott to eight rushing yards last week. So what do you do with LaShawn McCoy this week? Is there a scenario where you could have two running backs who are better than McCoy? A realistic scenario. I don't have any leagues where I do. I'm still starting him. Yes, there's a scenario.
Starting point is 00:47:35 You could have drafted McCoy and then taken Dalvin Cook in the third and Kareem Hunt in the fifth. See, Dalvin Cook, actually one of the biggest injuries right now is Gerald McCoy for Tampa Bay. He did not practice. I'll give you the notes on that in a bit, but
Starting point is 00:47:52 Dalvin Cook doesn't have an easy matchup if McCoy plays. No, but I would rather start. I don't buy that the Tampa Bay defense is great. They're good. You'd rather start Dalvin Cook over McCoy? I would. Really? Interesting. And'd rather start Dalvin Cook over McCoy? I would. Really?
Starting point is 00:48:06 Interesting. And you're actually the high guy on McCoy. Because Dave and Jamie have McCoy like 15th or so. Right. And you have him 10th, I think. Yeah, I would start Ty Montgomery. I'm trying to think of guys that were just drafted way after him. How about tonight, Carlos Hyde?
Starting point is 00:48:21 What's that? Carlos Hyde tonight. I'm going to reevaluate where I have the Thursday night guys ranked. As of right now, I have McCoy ranked ahead of Hyde. I can't sit McCoy. Yeah, it's going to be tough. The thing is, he's being so heavily targeted in the passing game that he's going to get some yards that way. And they didn't completely shut down Melvin Gordon.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Well, 18 carries for 54 yards. That's Melvin Gordon. And then five catches for 25 yards and a touchdown. Zeke had four catches. And that's why I think McCoy will have a good game because I think he'll catch passes. And he always has good games. He's amazing.
Starting point is 00:49:04 He's had tough matchups last year and he did fine. And this is a cross-country trip. Buffalo is not the easiest place to go and perform. I don't know. I don't know if this matters at all, but last year two teams traveled cross-country to Buffalo, Arizona and San Francisco. We'll take San Francisco off the table
Starting point is 00:49:21 because they were horrible against the run. But McCoy just filleted Arizona last year. Yeah, I'm not sitting LaShawn McCoy unless I have two great options. All right, Mike Gillisley against Houston. Is that a tough call for you this week? Yes. I'm a little bit worried about how much success they will be able to have running the ball. I still think this Houston defense is very good.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I have Gilleslie as a number two running back in standard, right behind Chris Carson and Derrick Henry right now because I don't have DeMarco Murray ranked. Okay. But you'd go McCoy over Gilleslie. I would go McCoy over Gilleslie. I would start Gilleslie over Fournette. You would?
Starting point is 00:50:05 Yes. Yeah, would you start J.J. Nelson over Gilleslie. I would start Gilleslie over Fournette. Would you start? You would? Yes. Yeah, would you start J.J. Nelson over Gilleslie? Not in standard. In PPR, I would. Okay. Next tough call is Leonard Fournette against Baltimore in London. Early. Let's kick it off early.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I love it, man. Is this a 9 o'clocker? Yeah, and the offenses may not wake up until about 2. 9.30 a.m. Eastern. I've got Fournette. We're talking about all the guys that have ranked right in order. It goes Derrick Henry, Chris Carson, Mike Gilleslie, Leonard Fournette. So he's behind
Starting point is 00:50:37 those three guys that we've already talked about. I have him just ahead of guys like Buck Allen, unless it's PPR, Christian McC Buck Allen, unless it's PPR, Christian McCaffrey, unless it's PPR, ahead of Lamar Miller, ahead of Amir Abdullah. So there is certainly a situation where you've picked up someone that you'd start over Fournette this week,
Starting point is 00:50:57 but he's not a must-sit by any stretch. All right, so Baltimore, obviously, we know they're good against the run. They allowed the sixth fewest fantasy points to opposing running backs. But how much are you factoring in the Brandon Williams injury? Because he's their run stopper and he may not play. Yeah, I don't think this is a very good situation for Fournette, even if Williams is out. I still think this Baltimore defense is a complete mismatch
Starting point is 00:51:24 for the Jags offensive line, and they may be without their center. Yeah, they may be without Brandon Linder. Speaking of a team that might be without its center, how about Amir Abdullah at home against Atlanta? Is he a tough call? Can we finally start Amir Abdullah? Atlanta is giving up 5.35 yards per carry to running backs. Most of that was Tariq Cohen.
Starting point is 00:51:48 But Jordan Howard did well too, 13 carries for 52 yards and a touchdown. They did well on a yards per carry basis against Ty Montgomery, but he scored two touchdowns in the game. But Travis Swanson, Detroit center, he did not practice on Wednesday. So Amir Abdullah, you said he's behind all the guys we talked about, but could he get you double-digit fantasy points this week? Yeah, I have him ranked higher than I've had him ranked at any point this season. He's a low-end number two for me. I've got him ahead of Crowell, ahead of Tevin Coleman, ahead of Tariq Cohen
Starting point is 00:52:17 in standard. In PPR, I'd drop him below Theo Riddick. I'd rather start Riddick. I would still like to see what share of the running back targets is Abdullah going to get. Because in week one, I think he got four, and that's great. Last week, he got zero. I had one called back. So let's say I won. Okay. We'll count that one, even though we don't do that for any other player. Well, because we don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:42 But if I knew every time, then I would count it. I mean, they ran a screen for him, and it was called back. I think that matters. Would you start Abdullah or Terrell Pryor? Pryor. I think Pryor, Cousins, Crowder, that whole Redskins passing attack gets healthy this week against the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Okay, and Christian McCaffrey against the Saints. I think he's pretty easy to start in PPR, but in standard scoring leagues, is Christian McCaffrey a tough call for you? It's a tough call. He's behind a lot of the guys we've talked about so far, but I do have him ahead of Abdullah and Crowell. The Saints are just dreadful. Basically everything.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And McCaffrey has kind of looked overwhelmed physically, I think, the first two weeks. But New Orleans is not going to do that to him. So, yeah, McCaffrey's a low-end number two for me, right behind Buck Allen. Would you start McCaffrey or Jonathan Stewart in standard? In standard, I would start Stewart. In PPR, I'd start McCaffrey. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And finally, Chris Thompson against Oakland. So, as I mentioned earlier, Jay Gruden does not want to overwork Chris Thompson. And Rob Kelly says he's going to play through the ribs injury. So is Chris Thompson a start or a sit this week? I don't really want to start him. He's a flex in PPR, a very low-end flex in a standard league. I've still got him behind. I mean, there's kind of that big group of pass-catching running backs.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I don't put Theo Riddick and James White in that. They're ahead of all these guys. But I've got Thompson in the same range with Duke Johnson, Darren Sproles, Shane Vereen. And they're all low-end number three running backs. Yeah, Sproles is kind of sneaky because he often scores against the Giants, just seems to own the Giants. But who would you take, Thompson or Sproles? I've got Sproles one spot ahead of Thompson right now. In a PPR league, Thompson
Starting point is 00:54:29 or Jonathan Stewart? Stewart. In a PPR league, Thompson or Tevin Coleman? Coleman. Coleman's been involved in the passing game. He's getting a lot more targets than Devontae Freeman is. Let's go to some tough calls on wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:54:48 No tight ends on today's show. We gave you some streamers earlier today. All right, Des Bryant. This is the third week we're going to say, kind of avoid Bryant if you can. This is the third week I'm going to say I'm still starting Des Bryant because you know me, Mr. Contrarian. You've got him, Abe.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And so does Dave. I'm sorry? Dave and Bryant because, you know me, Mr. Contrarian. You've got him eight. And so does Dave. I'm sorry? Dave and you both have Dez Bryant eighth. Jamie has him 27th. Yeah. They are just making such a concerted effort to get Dez Bryant involved in the game plan. And I can't sit him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:24 The encouraging thing for Dez Bryant is that he has six targets inside the 10-yard line. There are only three other players in the NFL so far with more than two. Right. You know, keep in mind, Prescott threw 50 passes last week. That's not going to happen again, most likely. But, you know, Patrick Peterson is really good, and he should follow Dez Bryant. It's going to be tough. I mean, eight is bold. Like, if you had him like 16th, I'd get it. But eight is know, Patrick Peterson is really good, and he should follow Des Bryant. It's going to be tough.
Starting point is 00:55:45 I mean, 8 is bold. Like, if you had him like 16th, I'd get it. But 8 is bold, Heath. I'm bold. Okay. Heath says stardom. So does Dave. Jamie, not so much.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Mike Evans at Minnesota. We're not sitting Mike Evans. You know, you're not sitting Mike Evans, but Minnesota's done really well. They're always good against number ones. They're always good against number ones. Yes, they are. I'm not sitting Mike Evans, but Minnesota's done really well. They're always good against number ones. They're always good against number ones. Yes, they are. I'm not sitting Mike Evans. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Did we have Antonio Brown on the tough calls last week? No, but we should have. Look what they did against – we shouldn't have because Antonio Brown's better than Mike Evans. You never sit – Antonio Brown's is better than Mike Evans. I never sit – Antonio Brown is better than Mike Evans. I just don't – maybe this is just my philosophical issue, but I'm not – like I'm not sitting Mike Evans. Antonio Brown had five catches for 62 yards on 11 targets. Week one, Michael Thomas had five catches for 45 yards on eight targets.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Okay, that's fine. Don't sit Mike Evans. I have Evans in one league and I am also not sitting Mike Evans. Martavis Bryant at Chicago. Martavis Bryant, let's see if I have the numbers readily available. I think he has one touchdown in like 10 road games in his career and 12 touchdowns in 13 home games. I would love, love, love it if somebody could explain to me the why to this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:57:08 The why or the why? What's that? The why or the why? The why. I don't like basing decisions on trends that have no real explanation. Sure. But here are the numbers. decisions on trends that have no real explanation. Sure. But here are the numbers.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Career at home, 72.5 yards per game, 12 touchdowns in 13 games. Career road for Bryant, 48 yards per game, 3 touchdowns in 10 games. Start or sit? I've got him as my 28th wide receiver. So sit him in a two-wide receiver league, start him in a three-wide receiver league. Even in a two-wide receiver league, you're probably starting him as a flex. I have him behind some of these names may surprise. Devontae Parker, Jamison Crowder, T.Y. Hilton.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Ooh, Hilton. Interesting. How about Bryant or Amir Abdullah? Martavis Bryant. Ooh, that's interesting. And I think I would go with Abdullah. So that means you'd go Chris Carson over Martavis. That one I feel better about, yes. Tyrell Williams against Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:58:20 I think he's had 54 receiving yards in each of his first two games. Tyrell Williams against Kansas City. Yeah, I have no interest in Tyrell Williams against Kansas City this week. Kansas City is good against outside wide receivers. They struggle against the slot. Keenan Allen will do whatever he wants this week. But I don't want to start Tyrell. Alshon Jeffrey against the Giants.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I'm still starting Alshon. I like the types of targets he's getting. This New York Giants secondary, I still think is good, but I'm not sure they're going to be as good as they were last year. Well, I mean, based on one game, Janoris Jenkins was great against Dez.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I think if he doesn't play, I'm absolutely greenlighting Alshon in my leagues. If Janoris Jenkins plays, which he's expected to right now, it's tough. It's tough. I'd definitely go J.J. Nelson over Alshon in my leagues, if Janoris Jenkins plays, which he's expected to right now, it's tough. It's tough. I'd definitely go J.J. Nelson over Alshon if Jenkins plays. Because I think he'll shadow him.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I don't know if he'll shadow him. He'll get him a lot. He'll get him a lot. Yeah. You know what? He might not shadow him. And Eli Apple's been pretty rough so far this week. Pretty bad, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:23 This year. All right, that helps. But I still think I'd go. I really like J.J. Nelson this week, as long as John Brown's out, which is going to happen. I like him as a number two. Jeremy Macklin at Jacksonville. I'm sitting all the receivers in that game. Marquise Lee would be my favorite.
Starting point is 00:59:42 So you'd start Alshon over Macklin? I would. Would you start Aguilar over Macklin? I would not. Would you start Emanuel Sanders over Macklin? I would. You also have Pierre Garçon over Macklin. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Somebody's going to have to catch passes. I don't know that they will. Okay. Last one you like a lot't know, but they will. Okay. Last one you like a lot, Terrell Pryor. Yeah, we're starting Terrell Pryor. The Raiders' defense is not that good. They're traveling across the country. Oh, that's what I meant to tell you.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Garyon Conley, rookie cornerback, made his debut in Week 2, did not play in Week 1, came away with rave reviews for the Oakland Raiders, and could be lined up on Terrell Pryor this week. Now, they're probably going to be... Oh, no, actually, I think their other cornerback is going to play. Sean Smith.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I think he's going to play. Who does not scare me at all. I'm just interested to see about Conley. It's one game, so not going to make any conclusions, but we're always looking for good cornerbacks. He's a first-round pick out of Ohio State. Gary and Conley, keep an eye on him, but you like Pryor. You like the Redskins offense a lot this week. I do. All right. Heath, thank you very much. Appreciate your time. For Heath Cummings, I'm Adam Azer. We'll talk to you tomorrow with Start or Sit.

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