Fantasy Football Today - 09/21: Start or Sit (NFC); NYJ-CLE Recap (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 21, 2018Welcome to the NFL, Baker Mayfield! We recap the game and talk about what the CLE offense will look like going forward, Antonio Callaway's potential, what to do about the NYJ RBs and much more ... Inj...uries to track this week (9:05), IDP advice (12:50), the David Johnson conundrum (14:45), Carson Wentz's outlook (18:25) and Beat the Waiver Wire (21:14)! ... NO-ATL (24:40), LAC-LAR (30:14), CIN-CAR (36:03), GB-WAS (41:21), IND-PHI (49:18), CHI-ARI (54:30), DAL-SEA (59:06), BUF-MIN (1:03:00) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Happy Friday, everybody.
What's going on?
Welcome here on Fantasy Football Today on September 21st.
Guys, I enjoyed that game last night. It was fun.
You enjoyed the second half. You did enjoy the first half.
As soon as Baker came in, it became a watchable game.
For whatever reason, I did enjoy the first half.
I know that sounds weird, but I thought the Jets' defense was playing so well.
I was so impressed, and they kind of fell apart.
Adam was just happy that the Jets
lost and the Giants might not be the worst team in New York.
That is a
good question. Who wins?
Giants or Jets?
Jets. Giants.
I'll say the Jets.
Alright, I would ask the Google Assistant, but we have
other things to talk about here. We have
starter sit for the NFC home games.
The Vikings-Bills game
Might be the easiest game we've ever previewed
Although I was a little surprised
At where Kirk Cousins was ranked
A little lower than I expected
We'll talk about that
We are going to welcome Carson Wentz back
But let's recap Jets and Browns
And email of the day is from Adam
From a southwest city of Dave's Choice.
Hackberry, Arizona.
Dear Justin, Steven, and Paul.
And I believe he told us they were Canadian prime ministers, so I won't even bother googling.
I started Bilal Powell on my bench, Hyde, and Crowell.
I am an idiot moron.
Yeah, that sucks.
Yeah, I have a PPR league or two where I started Palal Pal and benched Crowell.
Yep, doesn't feel good.
Yeah, I liked Powell better than Crowell going into the game
because I thought it would be hard for Crowell to gain yardage.
That happened, but he found the end zone a couple of times.
That part's tough.
Yes, if you didn't start him, you could always wipe away your tears.
Or something else.
I didn't know he was a lefty, by the way.
Oh, he is a lefty.
At least he is when he goes number two.
Oh, the wipe thing.
Oh, I didn't get it.
Yeah, that was disgusting.
I thought it was funny, but it was pretty disgusting.
Cleveland wins for the first time in 20 games.
Dilly dilly.
They gave free beer to everyone.
Tyrod Taylor left with a concussion.
Tyrod Taylor also threw Antonio Callaway for what could have been an 80-yard touchdown.
Callaway is 42% owned.
So they haven't announced it officially.
I'm sure we expect.
Yes, they have.
We expect Baker Mayfield to be the starter.
I think we need to give Hugh the benefit of the doubt and let him watch the tape just to be sure that he's doing the right thing. They may kill Hugh Jackson if he does not start Baker Mayfield.
Hey, look.
Tyron Taylor was good enough for them.
They could have won each of their first two games.
They should be 3-0.
They could be 3-0, sure.
They should at least be 2-0. They could be 3-0, sure.
They should at least be 2-0.
Yeah, probably.
But anyway, if Baker Mayfield takes over, what's the impact on the – No if.
When he takes over, what's the impact on the offense?
It's a big plus for the offense.
Jarvis Landry, you're still starting him across the board,
and you're still starting Carlos Hyde,
and you're still taking a wait-and-see approach
with Antonio Calaway, but yes, it's a big
step up. I think you could take a wait-and-see
approach with David Njoku, too.
You can't start him, though. No, you can't.
Not yet, but
tight end was part of the routine
for Baker Mayfield at Oklahoma,
and he leaned on him a couple times. It was part of the routine for
Tyrod Taylor at Buffalo. No, that is It was part of the routine for Tyrod Taylor at Buffalo.
No, not as good.
It was part of the routine for Tyrod Taylor the first two weeks in Cleveland.
He had 14 targets in the first two weeks. That's true.
That's true, but the quality of target is going to improve.
Tyrod did not play well when he was under center,
and Baker, at least in a game where he was completely unprepared to be the main guy,
he didn't go through a week's worth of practice with the starters.
He was amazing.
He missed.
I don't think he missed on any throws necessarily.
The one that should have been an interception.
He threw it right to the defensive back.
Okay.
So there's one.
He had three bad throws.
I think he had three bad plays.
And he, like, if we're going to nitpick, he looked like he could be a quarterback who's turnover prone.
He fumbled twice in the pocket
yeah and threw a ball that hit a defensive back right in the chops he probably has more farb
traits than mahomes has farb traits and that's why i said today he looks like what i expected
mahomes to look like early this year yes and that will change once he plays more no and once he yeah
well he's gonna gunslinger mentality will not change but holding on to the football he'll get
better at that's not something that i think will be consistent throughout his career.
Well, but I think that it's important to note that Sam Darnold
has probably taken a step back, a bigger one each game.
He looked pretty good on Monday Night Football against the Lions,
had a terrible first half against the Dolphins,
had a pretty good second half. Was really bad yesterday.
They were very conservative.
They didn't throw the ball downfield at all.
So it's possible.
They had no film.
They were preparing for Tyrod Taylor.
This was maybe an advantageous situation for Baker Mayfield.
Maybe not.
He gets a full week of practice if he's a starter.
But I think Darnold's gotten a little worse.
It was a terrible performance.
So maybe the same thing happens to Baker Mayfield.
It's tough for rookie quarterbacks. I don't know that there's gotten a little worse. It was a terrible performance. So maybe the same thing happens to Baker Mayfield. It's tough for rookie quarterbacks.
I don't know that there's much fantasy back there.
The difference, though, between the two guys is the talent around them.
Like, Cleveland has talent.
The Jets don't really have a lot of talent.
Speaking of Jets talent, all right, so should we just start as a Crowell going forward,
or is it just going to be a headache every week?
I just think it's game specific.
Powell was the better player.
But Crowell seems more likely to get the touchdowns,
doesn't he? That's the thing
that you have to hang your hat on with him.
But that's really about it,
unless there's a matchup that comes along that is
so favorable for
the Jets' run game that
you can look at him and say, okay, we know the Jets
are going to be able to run. They should be able to run a lot.
Crowell will get the most of that work.
They're both averaging 4.5 yards per carry.
Crowell had that really long touchdown run against the Lions.
That's certainly helping.
I wonder if with the Lions game, the first Crowell touchdown, remember Powell had that
thing with his eye and came off the field in the red zone?
I wonder if that would have been his opportunity.
I think last night was they're going to give Crowell a chance to score.
I'm not sure anyone's going to disagree here,
but look at their upcoming schedule.
At Jacksonville, Denver, Indianapolis, Minnesota, at Chicago, Miami.
I mean, who wants to start these guys?
I'm sure there'll be some good games in there,
but it'll be hard to predict.
Is this a sell-high opportunity or no?
Yes, on Crowell. I think Powell and PPR
will still be fine. It was a little disappointing that he had no catches.
But he never... That's the thing.
He almost never does.
He pretty much never does.
He did it last week.
Two years prior, it was Sharon
to fill the match for Tay, who was a better pass catcher than him.
Powell will be better next week, I think.
I 100% agree. You he won't be good.
You look at what this offense is
and how they're not challenging anybody down
the field, that I think
sets up better for Powell. How we feel
about Anunua? Must start going forward?
I know he only had four for 57, but
he is the apple of Sam Darnold's
eye.
He's a must start in PPR, for sure.
At the very least, he's a top 30 receiver.
Okay.
Anything else?
Okay, good.
Browns are fun.
Good, good.
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Stat of the week.
I don't know that there's anything actionable here, but it's LOL.
The Redskins allow 269 fewer passing yards per game than the Chiefs,
and that is more than what Matt Ryan averages per game.
So the Redskins passing yards per game allowed
plus Matt Ryan passing yards per game is still less than what the Chiefs allow.
Chiefs played Phillip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger.
Redskins have played Sam Bradford and Andrew Luck.
Andrew Luck, yes.
And now they've got Aaron Rodgers.
That stat's going to change a little bit.
Probably.
Just a little bit.
So now let's go through the injury items here.
Do you expect Marquise Goodwin?
Not yet.
I want to see what he looks like in practice on Friday
and what we hear out of San Francisco.
Yeah, and you know what?
We had a really
good mailbag show
last week, Saturday mailbag.
We waited a while. We waited for the injury news to come in.
So I think we should be able to do that again
this week. So the Saturday mailbag
should be able to help you out with the injury updates.
Also on the Saturday
mailbag, I'm going to have Mike McClure
on to talk
about DFS.
He's a sports line writer.
He's a DFS expert, and we'll give you some DFS advice with Mike McClure.
Do you expect LeSean McCoy at Minnesota?
Yeah.
Leonard Fournette against Tennessee?
Yep.
Jay Ajayi against the Colts?
We'll know more about that by the mid-afternoon,
but it's not looking good.
Josh Gordon at Detroit on Sunday night.
Rob Gronkowski at Detroit on Sunday night.
Gronk is going to be fine.
I think Josh Gordon is going to end up playing.
All right, so since we previewed those games yesterday,
are you starting Leonard Fournette or are you starting Josh Gordon?
I don't mind Fournette if you have number two running back expectations.
I think you only go with Gordon if you're really thin at wide receiver or flex
and you just need someone that has some crazy high upside,
but there's crazy low downside with him too.
Huge risk.
Jamie, does this make Chris Hogan a sit?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes, at best a number? Yes. Okay. Yes. At best, a number three receiver.
Do you expect Cole Beasley at Seattle?
I'm not sure.
We're going to have to wait and see what happens in Dallas on Friday with him.
Jordy Nelson at Miami.
We can wait on him too.
Today's a big day.
Thank you, Heath.
Thanks, Heath. Jordy, Heath. Thanks, Heath.
Jordy, you're not starting anyway.
Jordy, you're probably cutting at this point.
T.Y. Hilton, Marlon Mack, Jack Doyle.
That's another one.
That's another three, actually.
They didn't practice on Thursday, right?
All three of them were out.
So let's see if they get after it on Friday.
Okay.
And Marcus Mariota at Jacksonville might play.
Not going to start him.
Derek Henry at Jacksonville. Do we expect him?
As of now, yes.
Guys, I really
missed an opportunity for a wonderful rhyme.
What I should have called the Ryan Fitzpatrick
segment yesterday. Remember I went with Fitzmagic or
Fitzcraptrick. Obviously I should have
gone with Fitzmagic or Fitztragic. Thank you to like 10 people who pointed that out. So my apologies.
And just because I know not everybody's able to listen to the entire episode, I did want to
reiterate what the guys said about the Patriots and the Lions game. It was the last game we
previewed. It was about an hour in. We're kind of thinking the rookie running backs might break out
a little bit.
Sonny, Michelle, Kerryon Johnson, we're hoping.
I don't know that we're willing to make start or sit decisions on it,
but we're hoping that's the case.
It's sort of a bold call.
I'd start Michelle.
Yeah?
I would too, as a flex.
Yep.
And you'd start him over Burkhead?
Yes, I would.
But not over White?
Not in PPR.
In non-PPR, yes.
I'll be the cautious one of the group and say Michelle's third on the Patriots running back pecking order for me in fantasy.
I have neglected the IDP audience.
And I made a big mistake yesterday.
I was looking at Denzel Ward.
Should I pick him up?
Should I pick him up?
Did not pick him up.
Now it's too late.
He needs to be added.
He seems like he's going to cause some havoc,
create some turnovers. He had a forced fumble and a
recovery yesterday. That's the number
four overall pick in the draft, the
Browns cornerback.
Any other IDP guys that we want to
recommend?
I think
Jamie made some moves in IDP yesterday
if I recall.
Transactions here. I have Trey yesterday, if I recall. A lot of transactions here.
Yeah, I have Trey Flowers, so I picked up Robert Quinn.
Yeah, he's been a really nice addition for the Dolphins.
Yeah, he's not getting a lot of tackles, but he's getting after the quarterback.
So he's available in a lot of leagues.
Their defense against Derek Carr, if Carr's holding the ball a little longer this week,
then they'll have some opportunities to get after him.
Kenny Young should be the replacement for C.J. Mosley in Baltimore.
Yeah, but I don't know if he's going to get a full workload
because they brought back Albert McClellan
and they've got other linebackers that they can work in there.
So you can pick him up to speculate, but I don't know if he's going to.
He won't be as good as C.J. Mosley.
Well, no.
You're not replacing C.J. Mosley with anyone on the waiver wire?
Mm-hmm.
I don't know for sure how to pronounce his last name, but Josh Bynes?
Bynes?
In Arizona?
Fates Bynes.
They're going to spend so much time on the field that there will be a lot of tackle opportunities.
Not sure he makes any big plays.
A couple of defensive linemen that are free agents
in an IDP league that I play in
that have put up some points,
and defensive line is one of the thinnest positions in IDP.
Dante Fowler, Jarrell Casey,
although these guys, it'll probably take big plays
for them to be special for your team.
Margus Hunt with Indianapolis could be another one.
Okay. I wanted to pick up could be another one. Okay.
I wanted to pick up Nick Vigil.
I lost a claim on him.
Cincinnati linebacker Nick Vigil could get you like a safe seven or eight
tackles or something like that.
And maybe that's for deeper leagues.
I don't know.
But those are some IDP guys.
Got a request for some IDP talk, and there it is.
All right, we're getting a little bit of start-sit right now.
Of course, get into all the games.
We've got Beat the Waver Wire coming up.
Let's take a look at the David Johnson conundrum.
Heath and Jamie have him 14th in non-PPR.
Jamie's got him 12th in PPR.
Heath has him 13th.
And Dave Richard has David Johnson, stand by your Daves,
6th in both non-PPR and PPR.
So, yeah, he's got the Bears.
They've been really good.
They were great against running backs last year.
They were pretty good against pass-catching running backs last year.
I'll give you a stat on that.
But, Dave, you're bullish.
Now, we already debated Geo and David Johnson yesterday,
but let's get into David Johnson a little bit more today.
And, Dave, you got him six in your rankings.
David Johnson.
You drafted him to stardom, first and foremost.
And even though
week two was terrible for him week one was not bad he had nine targets he had five catches
i believe he found the end zone he can do that at a minimum he should do that at a minimum i should
say every single week and the cardinals have come out and said we need to get david johnson more
involved and arizona's gonna start feeling a little desperate they're oh and two they've
looked terrible they're gonna figure out we need to get david johnson more involved and arizona's gonna start feeling a little desperate they're oh and two they've looked terrible they're gonna figure out we need to get david
johnson the ball this is a tough spot for the bears defense to be in after playing on monday
night and i don't know if that run defense has truly been tested this year i think they're good
there's no question about that but they've stopped jamal williams and chris carson and
rashad petty and they've been run at 40 times through two games. And that's, what did I say that was, fourth least on the NFL this season.
So David Johnson's going to get a big workload.
I'm putting him in my lineup.
I'm not thinking twice about it.
If he has another bad, bad game this week, we're talking sub-10 fantasy points,
then I think we can start to worry.
But usage is going to matter, and that will play a role.
But I am still expecting him to get close to 20 touches in the game.
And based on what David Johnson's done when he's gotten 20 touches,
he's been just fine for fantasy.
I hope you're right.
I hope you're right.
I agree with everything you said.
Every single person that has David Johnson hopes I'm right.
I agree with everything you said except the Bears defense being in a tough spot.
Have you seen the Cardinals play?
Yes.
Okay.
They're not in a tough spot.
I'm sorry that you had to watch that play.
It's not for any defense yeah it is you play this emotional game on monday night and then you got to turn around
and fly all the way to arizona i'll tell you what that's a vacation to me well
it might be but i i think arizona's one of those teams that's desperate their backs against the
wall they can't start 0-3.
Spoiler alert, they're going to start 0-3.
But David Johnson is still going to get his,
and he'll help them stay competitive in the game.
I mean, look, I hope you're right.
I think Giovanni Bernard, Tevin Coleman,
these guys' replacement options are in just better situations this week.
So it looks like, yeah. So there are four, I would say, replacement options
that are better than David Johnson, according to Jamie and Heath.
Only one of them, according to Dave.
That is James Conner.
Everybody's starting James Conner over David Johnson.
The other guys, Giovanni Bernard, Tevin Coleman, and then I'll throw in Matt Breida.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
David Johnson, they're back-to-back.
So, Heath, do you have Breida or Johnson ahead?
I've got Johnson about six spots ahead.
Okay, and Jamie's got the back-to-back.
So, never mind.
I'll throw in one more that may go on the list in about six hours,
and that is Corey Clement.
Wow.
If it buys out.
All right, and then I just thought this was fun.
So, last year, the Bears allowed the sixth-fewest fantasy points to running backs,
the seventh-fewest receiving yards per game to opposing running backs,
and they did that despite facing Le'Veon Bell, Alvin Kamara, Mark Ingram,
Theo Riddick twice, Duke Johnson, Christian McCaffrey,
Jerick McKinnon twice, and Giovanni Bernard.
And they still did a pretty good job against pass-catching running backs.
Some of those guys have big games.
And we'll see what carries over.
All right.
Well, here's something.
Here's some music that the fantasy baseball listeners are going to be pretty familiar with.
And Heath's going to be pretty familiar with.
Here it is, Heath.
Welcome back.
We're going to wish a big old hearty to Carson Wentz.
Everybody loves this song. Welcome back, Carson Wentz. Your dreams were your ticket back. Everybody loves this song.
Welcome back, Carson Wentz.
He loves Wentz. He loves Carson Wentz now.
He's got him 13th.
Dave and Jamie say, no way.
18th for Jamie, 17th for Dave.
Who do you have ranked higher, Wentz or Wilson?
Wentz.
It sounds like you should drop Wilson and pick up Wentz.
It's too late.
It's too late.
Oh, yeah, for $0.
But don't worry, we started
Quincy Novo last night, so we'll get a win.
Carson Wentz.
Heath, you have
some hopes for him. 13th
overall this week.
I think before
I had any concerns about Carson
Wentz missing the first two weeks of the season,
I had him ranked 13th for the season. He's weeks of the season. I had him ranked 13th for the season.
He's back week one.
I've got him ranked 13th.
Everything seems normal to me.
You're throwing him in the fire against the Colts.
Well, I'm not throwing him in the fire.
I would start Alex Smith over him.
I'd start Matt Ryan over him.
I'd start Patrick Mahomes over him.
Those are all guys that were probably drafted after him in most leagues.
Okay.
Dave, Jamie,
want to wait and see, right?
Yes. Yeah, again,
there are a lot of great quarterbacks.
I think he'll be okay for your team. I just don't know where his ceiling is.
Do you think he's the best quarterback in this game?
No.
I've got him back-to-back.
With luck ahead of Wentz? Wentz ahead of luck.
Ooh. Yeah, I'm taking a wait-and-see approach. With luck ahead of Wentz? Wentz ahead of luck. Ooh.
Yeah, I'm taking a wait-and-see approach.
I do expect Carson Wentz to be very good as the season moves on.
And I wish that he had played last week and gotten that rust knocked off then because I still think it's a favorable matchup.
But I don't really know what to expect from him.
I don't think it's going to be safe to expect him to be on target
and have a high completion percentage and to throw deep.
This is a game where you start once if you really don't have anybody else.
Random question for you.
Okay, so of all the guys that you ranked number one,
what was the easiest choice?
Mahomes, Kamara in PPR, no consensus, number one wide receiver.
Gronkowski or the Vikings DST?
What was the easiest choice?
Gronk?
What if I told you it was Antonio Brown?
Well, I was looking for a consensus.
I was going to say Michael Thomas.
But you have Julio Jones, number one in non-PPR.
I thought you said PPR.
I don't ever move Gronk, so Gronk.
Yeah, that's a good one.
No, you're all wrong.
The Vikings DST was the easiest for you.
Probably.
I mean, the Jaguars are playing Blaine Gabbert.
Oh, fine.
Good point.
Let's beat the waiver wire.
Let's look ahead to week four.
I got some options for you.
First of all, I really think – I don't know what to expect from Aaron Jones,
but 78% owned.
Probably a get out of Aaron Jones if he's available, right?
Absolutely should stash him.
All right, so look out for Aaron Jones.
Some DSTs for next week.
The Saints are at the Giants, and the Packers have the Bills at home.
You like it?
The Packers are the answer.
Yeah, honestly, like Buffalo back-to-back road games
going at Minnesota and then at Green Bay yeah Buffalo Bills a couple years ago the answer to
streaming defense every week was just who's Bortles playing now it's who are the Bills and
Cardinals playing and the Cardinals are at home against the terrible Seattle defense so it's the
Packers next week all right Packers it is uh do you like Case Keenum maybe against the Chiefs next
week? Love it.
52% owned.
That's all I got. That's all I got. I went through
the games. That's
all I got for you. Does Baker Mayfield
count? Not anymore. He can't beat
the waiver wire he's already played. But you can't pick him up
until Tuesday.
Right, that's what I'm saying. I see what you're saying.
I got somebody who's 55% on.
That could be great this week.
Who you got?
Latavius Murray.
Yeah, people want to know if they should start him.
But he plays the Rams next week on the road on Thursday.
So what?
If Dalvin Cook, first off, if he doesn't play this week, you want him now.
Yeah, that's true.
Secondly, if he's the starter for whatever reason,
I mean, if Dalvin goes out and pops his hamstring.
Hey.
Rams haven't been great against the run.
No, they kind of let you run.
I got a couple of rookie receivers,
one in a shallow league and one in a deeper league.
The shallow league is Calvin Ridley.
I like his matchup a lot this week against the Saints.
And in that same game for deeper leagues,
Traquan Smith looks like he's going to get some more opportunities to play.
And he's got some
sizzle and pop to his game.
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To the games.
Saints at Falcons.
That of the game.
Atlanta has been second worst, third worst, and ninth worst in receiving yards allowed to opposing running backs.
So that's why Alvin Kamara is number one in PPR.
All right, what kind of game do we expect?
Last year, low-scoring games, bad for fantasy.
The quarterbacks weren't good.
Atlanta won 20-17 at home.
Saints won 23-13 at home.
Do we expect a high-scoring game?
Do we expect a low-scoring game?
What do you think?
High-scoring.
It's the second-best Bonanza pick of the week.
Hopefully you won't pick either of the top two.
But, yeah, New Orleans' defense was better last year. Maybe they'll get it figured
out, but I'm not going to trust that happens on the road
at Atlanta, and Atlanta's defense is
decimated. Yeah, two big
injuries hurting them in the middle of the field.
That's part of the reason why Camara is going to be
awesome this week.
You guys have Drew Brees ranked quite
high. I think it's top four,
so start Drew Brees.
Why don't we stick with the Saints? We love Kamara.
We love Drew Brees. We love Michael Thomas.
They're actually a fairly easy team. But does Ted
Ginn have any sleeper appeal?
Yes,
but you're not starting him with any semblance of confidence.
I think he's in the same
category as Josh Gordon this week.
Sure. I'd rather start Gordon.
Blindly start Gordon.
I think I'd rather start Ginn.
He's top 40 for me.
I just got done telling you that they're talking about using Traequan Smith more.
That's, I think, more Cameron Meredith than a Ted Ginn thing.
Could be both.
I mean, there's plenty of targets to go around.
Half of them are going to Michael Thomas right now.
Most of them are going to go to Alvin Kamara.
Yeah, I mean, are we sure about Drew Brees?
Because last week he delivered, what, 21 fantasy points?
He played a better defense last week.
What did the Falcons do last week?
Why am I blanking on their game?
They played Carolina.
They won.
They started off great against Cam, and then they fell apart.
They did fall apart, yeah.
You know where Deion Jones and Ken O'Neal typically line up?
That's where DJ Moore ran right through.
Yeah, it was a missed tackle.
All I'm saying is Breeze, they played better defense last week, the Saints,
and Breeze scored 21 fantasy points, which is what he did all last year.
I agree.
Look, forget it.
Forget I said anything.
Start Drew Breeze.
Done.
Thank you. Men in black, erase it. Calvin Ridley or Ted Start Drew Brees. Done. Thank you.
Men in black, erase it.
Calvin Ridley or Ted Ginn?
Who's a better flyer?
I'll take Ridley.
I'd rather play Ginn.
I'll take Ridley, too, just because he's at home.
I think he gets more playing time.
And Ken Crawley has been the biggest weakness in the Saints defense
for the first two weeks of the season.
And he was really good last year, and he's taken a step back.
No chance that Julio will go one-on-one with Crawley.
I think you're going to see
Lattimore and Julio go one-on-one
all game, and that'll leave
Crawley for Mohamed Sanu and Ridley, and Ridley
has the speed to beat him.
Tevin Coleman,
does anybody not love Tevin Coleman?
No. I'd start him over David Johnson.
I would too.
Dave, you wouldn't start him over David Johnson, but you would start Tevin Coleman.
Of course.
He's going to have a good game.
I have a great stat on this.
Hold on.
Tevin Coleman.
Go with your night sky and we'll come back to Tevin Coleman.
Who do you like better, Tevin or Geo?
Tevin.
Geo.
Tevin Coleman.
Okay.
Tevin.
They're back to back.
Dave, Tevin Campbell or Tevin. Geo. Tevin. Okay. They're back to back. Dave, Tevin Campbell or Tevin Coleman?
Tevin Campbell or Nevin Campbell?
Wasn't Tevin Campbell like the...
Actress?
Her name's Nevin.
No.
Yes.
No, Tevin Campbell was like the teeny bopper.
Nev Campbell is the actress.
Yeah, Nevin Campbell.
Are you kidding?
All right, so I'm not up on my, you know, 90s actresses.
He was an R&B artist back in the 90s, Tevin Campbell.
An Atlanta running back has scored at least one touchdown
in each of the last nine games against the Saints.
Coleman has at least a touchdown in 52 yards
in three of his last four against the Saints.
All right, so there seems to be one tricky guy here.
It's Matt Ryan.
Jamie likes him.
He's got him eighth.
Dave, 14th.
Heath, 17th on Matt Ryan.
Discuss.
Jamie, why don't you start?
Why do you have him seventh?
Oh, you have him seventh?
I put a one in front of it.
Okay, good.
So you have him seventh.
Jamie has him eighth.
And Dave, you have him 14th.
So, Jamie, you can start anyway.
Matt Ryan.
Oh, I just think the Saints defense is not the same unit we saw last year.
The pass rush has not been the same.
And Ryan has a great track record against them at home.
I think that will continue.
And I like what I saw from Ryan last week.
Getting the other guys involved is going to be important for him.
I think he got a bad rap for playing at Philadelphia in Week 1
against a team that's a hell of a lot better than what he's faced last week and what he's going to face this week.
So I think Ryan is still a very good, if not great, quarterback this week.
In a game, again, that's expected to be, by Vegas's standards, extremely high scoring.
Okay. And then do we like the tight ends?
I like Uber. Streamers, they're streamers.
The last time Ben Watson faced the Falcons with
the Saints was 2015, and
he had 100 yards and a touchdown in each game.
And so no
Neil, no Jones.
Yeah, that matchup should help him out.
He missed a touchdown from Breeze last week,
so I think they connect. Can I just say one thing on Matt Ryan?
Yeah. His offensive line
lost the start of this week. The Saints'
pass rush was much better last week.
They really got after it compared to week one.
I think he can get you – he's one of those quarterbacks that can get you
between 20 and 25 fantasy points.
I don't think he's got the same type of ceiling that he –
I don't think he can do what he did last week.
He's not going to run for two touchdowns.
I'd be mildly surprised if he threw three touchdowns.
I think he'll be a good start.
I just don't think he's one of those quarterbacks that
350 yards
and four touchdowns
and carries your fantasy team.
He'll be good. He won't be great.
Chargers at Rams.
Your stat of the game.
Last year, Phillip Rivers faced three top
ten defenses and fantasy
points allowed to opposing quarterbacks, three of the ten best.
He scored 19, 22, and 24 fantasy points and six points per passing touchdown leagues.
So as we rank Phillip Rivers, tell me in this game, Chargers or Rams,
who do you like better, Rivers or Goff?
I like Goff.
Goff.
But I put Goff in that same category as Matt Ryan,
where there's just not a ton of upside.
I'd start Fitzmagic over both.
I would too.
Yeah.
Should we get away from Phillip Rivers? Should the Phillip Rivers owner look for a replacement,
or is it okay to start him?
I did the exact two quarterbacks in this game.
I have in our magazine league Phillip Rivers.
I picked up Jared Goff.
I'm starting Goff over Rivers.
Okay. Who wants to do the Wade Phillips versus
Phillip Rivers stat? 13.5
fantasy points in four
matchups against Phillips
with the Broncos.
It's actually been
four or five or five
of six games.
Five of six games, Wade Phillips has
crushed Phillip Rivers. his defense has crushed
him and this might be his best defense yet at least in the secondary so there's a pretty good
track record of hurting philip rivers and limiting him not the only difference is that
phillips so so confusing um phillips had pass rushers then and he doesn't really have pass rushers now.
So we'll see how this goes against Rivers.
Look, it'd be fun to see.
This is the toughest match that the Chargers have left.
So it's going to be interesting to see how they come out of this.
All right, well, you can't get away from Melvin Gordon.
Do you get away from him in daily?
Yes.
It's contrarian.
I don't mind using him in a tournament, but you can't consider him in cash.
How about Austin Eckler?
How do we feel about him?
Flex.
Yep.
Better in PPR than none.
All right.
Would you start Eckler or Royce Freeman?
Eckler.
Eckler.
Eckler.
Eckler or Phillip Lindsey?
Lindsey.
Lindsey. Okay. Lindsay, okay.
Lindsay, yes, I'm sorry.
Eckler or Alex Collins?
Eckler and non-PPR Collins.
I'm sorry, Eckler and PPR Collins and non-PPR.
I agree with that.
I've got Collins one spot higher in non.
How about Eckler or Devin Funchess?
Funchess in PPR.
Eckler in non.
Funchess in both.
They are really remarkably close.
I'll take Eckler in non, Funchess in PPR.
The Rams have not allowed 30 receiving yards to a receiver yet.
They have faced Oakland and Arizona.
Nobody has 30 yards.
I know everybody's going to start Keenan Allen.
Mike Williams, Tyrell Williams, sit him?
Yes.
All right.
Moving on.
We're not starting Virgil Green, right, or Antonio Gates?
No.
I mean, you can if you want to,
but the tight ends in the Saints-Falcons game are going to be better than those guys.
All right, so Jared Goff, top 12 this week?
No, just outside.
14, 13, 16 for Jamie David Heath for Jared Goff.
Gurley, we'll start Todd Gurley.
The Rams wide receivers.
What do we do with the Rams wide receivers this week?
Start Brandon Cooks.
And then good luck figuring out
the next guy.
As long as I'm in a league, I think we should
just assume all leagues either have a third wide
receiver or a flex. And in that
situation, I'm probably starting any of them.
Woods is due for a touchdown.
The matchups aren't great
for these receivers
against the Chargers, by the way.
So I feel like
they're all going to be touchdown dependent.
Cooks is the one who has the highest ceiling because of the
yardage that he gets.
So really don't feel great about Cup.
Don't have a great feeling about Cup or Woods
this week.
And we don't love the Rams DST,
given that they might be number one overall going forward,
maybe number two, but they're number six for Jamie,
fifth for Dave, and fifth for Heath.
Rams DST.
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I'm going to tell you the truth, guys.
Still haven't picked the Bonanza.
I think I'm just going to wing it at some point.
You won't even know when.
Cincinnati's at Carolina.
Stat of the game. Through two weeks,
the Panthers have allowed double-digit fantasy points in non-PPR to two running backs.
How many times do you think that happened last year? Four. The only one who reads the notes,
four times all last year that a running back scored double-digit fantasy points in non-PPR.
It's happened twice in two games.
So we're starting Gio Bernard.
How do we feel about Andy Dalton,
and would you start Dalton over Phillip Rivers?
Yes, I'm doing that in a couple leagues myself.
I don't mind that,
but I do expect the Panthers' defense to be better this week
than they were last week.
I think this is another spot where they can bounce back a little bit
and make things harder on Andy Dalton.
And certainly they're going to focus on containing A.J. Green,
which the Ravens just weren't able to do.
That secondary is banged up, though.
It is, but their injury report will determine.
I think you're going to see them just try and keep everybody in front of them.
It could be a game where A.J. Green, look, you're starting A.J. Green.
He might get you 120 yards and no touchdowns.
If they're going to sit back and keep everything in front of them,
I like Tyler Boyd even more.
I love Geo.
Yeah, that would actually help Geo quite a bit.
So what are we thinking, like 20-ish points for Andy Dalton?
It's a solid start?
Yeah, probably close to what he did in that Colts game, 19 points.
Yeah, like I would start him over Rivers,
but I think there may be guys on the waiver wire that you could do better with. I think I'd rather start Portals. I would start him over Rivers, but I think there may be guys on the waiver wire that you could do better
with. I think I'd rather start Portals.
I would too. Wentz or Dalton?
I'll take Wentz.
I'll take Dalton.
I remember when I say 20 fantasy points, I'm talking 6 points
per passing touchdowns.
Are we going to start any wide receivers
other than A.J. Green?
I'd flex Boyd.
PPR, I'd flex Boyd.
Not ready to do it yet in a non-PPR.
We're not in the bye weeks yet.
I don't think you're that desperate to go with Boyd.
But I like what I've seen from him.
And what's his ownership percentage?
22%.
Do you know it?
How much?
22.
That's a guy, if you're looking for a receiver to pad some depth
before week three kicks into high gear, to go and grab off waivers.
Hey, by the way, I wanted to mention somebody for deeper leagues
that I forgot in the last game or two games ago.
But if we expect Atlanta-New Orleans to be high scoring,
Ito Smith could get like 10 touches maybe, something like that.
That's what he got last week.
I know it's nothing exciting, but it's a name to know
if you're just completely desperate.
I almost feel like you're keeping Ito Smith in case something happens to Tevin Coleman.
Yeah, sure.
Tyler Eifert, no.
We're going to sit him.
Cam Newton.
Matchups don't matter with Cam Newton.
Nothing matters with Cam Newton.
He's impossible to predict, in my opinion.
Maybe you guys feel differently.
But I feel like you're going to rank him as a starter just about every week, right?
Yes.
His running is always going to give him a good floor.
And so when he's throwing the ball like he did last week, you've got to like it.
I didn't expect him to do what he did last week.
No, neither did I.
His completion percentage is 69%, which is amazing for him.
It's a very nice completion percentage.
Seven yards per attempt, and all three of his touchdowns came last week.
And like Jamie said, he's running it.
He's had 58 yards, 42 yards in two games so far.
Cam Newton.
Has a rushing touchdown.
Or Fitzpatrick.
Cam. Fitzpatrick. I'll go Russian touchdown. Or Fitzpatrick. Cam.
Cameron.
I'll go Cam.
Jamie says
Fitzpatrick.
The others say
Cam Newton.
Cam Newton or
Ben Roethlisberger?
Ben.
Ben.
I like saying
things indignantly.
All right then.
Let's talk about
Christian McCaffrey
and non-PPR. Baby. Let's talk about a guy who's 17rey in non-PPR.
Baby.
Let's talk about a guy who's 17th in non-PPR and 7th in PPR through two weeks.
Is Christian McCaffrey a must-start running back in non-PPR leagues?
Yes.
Yes.
Say it indignantly.
Yes.
Running backs are averaging 3.1 yards per carry against the Bengals.
That's okay.
He'll catch a lot of passes.
He will.
I mean, that was against the Colts and the Ravens.
Yeah, I know, but he actually has a good yard per carry, Christian McCaffrey,
but he did score 13 fantasy points in non-PPR last week with 14 catches for 102 yards,
but only 37 rushing yards, 50 the week before.
All right, fine, fine.
But would you start Geo or Coleman over McCaffrey in non-PPR?
I would not.
I would.
No, no, no.
I'm starting both those guys ahead of Geo.
I'm sorry.
So wait, how do you rank those three, Dave, in non-PPR?
McCaffrey, Coleman, Geo.
All right.
We're starting McCaffrey in PPR. McCaffrey, Coleman, Chio. All right. We're starting McCaffrey and PPR everywhere.
Funchess, seven catches for 77 yards on nine targets last week.
That's great, but Cam Newton threw 45 passes.
How comfortable, how confident are you in Devin Funchess this week?
I like him.
I mean, his numbers last year went up whenever Greg Olson and Calvin Benjamin
went on the field, but mostly Olson.
And you saw it last week, seven for 70, 9 targets I believe it was.
Yep.
And so I think that's going to be the norm for him.
So it's a good matchup.
He's at home.
Going to get a lot of targets.
He's better in PPR than non-PPR.
I think he's a good start this week.
Cool.
I think we're ready to move on.
Let's hit the DSTs.
Green Bay is at Washington.
Your stat of the game.
Quarterbacks against Green Bay in seven games without Kevin King last year.
It does not look like King is going to play.
Not all bad.
Case Keenum, 14 points.
Joe Flacco, 11 points.
Jameis, 21.
Deshaun Kaiser, 22 fantasy points with zero rushing fantasy points.
Cam Newton, 38.
Case Keenum, 11 in frigid weather, terrible conditions.
And Matthew Stafford, 32.
So at the end of the year, it got really bad.
All right, Alex Smith.
How do you feel about Alex Smith this week?
Can you start him?
I am starting him.
Over who?
Fitzpatrick.
That's bold, bold, bold.
And kind of ridiculous, actually.
I'm going to go Fitzpatrick in the upside against the Steelers.
I just think it's an even easier matchup for Fitzpatrick.
Ridiculous, he says.
Oh, he says it's ridiculous.
I dropped the ridiculous.
Ryan Fitzpatrick's last two games outweigh the decade of terribleness.
Do you want to compare Alex Smith's last decade to Ryan Fitzpatrick's last two games outweigh the decade of terribleness. Do you want to compare Alex Smith's last decade?
To Ryan Fitzpatrick's?
Happily.
I don't think you're going to look at Alex Smith and say that his last decade was great.
Better than Fitzpatrick was the only thing I was aiming for.
I just think Fitzpatrick has more upside.
You have to play for upside in fantasy now.
I think Alex Smith, week one was fine.
He didn't throw the ball very much.
They played Arizona.
It was still a good week, 255 yards on 30 attempts with two touchdowns.
That's great.
Against the Colts, it wasn't good, but he threw for 292 yards.
He just didn't get in the end zone.
I expect this game to be a bit of a track meet,
and I think he's a top-10 quarterback.
So Smith is 20th, I think, for Dave and Jamie,
and I think 9th for Heath.
So there's a little bit of a difference there.
Well, actually, he's so low.
So I was going to say, would you start him over Russell Wilson?
And I know Heath would.
Alex Smith, Russell Wilson for Jamie, Dave.
Wilson for me.
Yeah, Wilson.
All right.
Washington running backs, what are we doing with these guys?
Starting Chris Thompson, and i'd avoid adrian peterson i'm starting them both i am also starting them both i like thompson way better in ppr for obvious reasons packers are giving up
about five yards per carry on the ground and uh adrian peterson to me it's a little bit more
touchdown dependent than i'd like but i think he gets more work than he got last week.
And what he's doing catching the ball out of the backfield is kind of an added bonus.
I wouldn't even factor that into your evaluation much.
No, I understand that.
But anything he contributes there is like extra.
He had 30 yards receiving.
Last week, 30 yards receiving.
The week before, 70 yards receiving.
But 30 yards is actually a lot for Adrian Peterson.
God, Alex Smith loves throwing to running backs.
I feel like they'd be tough to rank, particularly in non-PPR for Chris Thompson.
Which guy would you prefer in non-PPR, Peterson or Thompson?
It's easy for me.
It's Thompson.
I don't want any part of Adrian Peterson this week. I've got Thompson one spot ahead of Peterson in non-PPR, Peterson or Thompson? It's easy for me. It's Thompson. I don't want any part of Adrian Peterson this week.
I've got Thompson one spot ahead of Peterson in non-PPR.
I'll take Peterson.
Yeah, I just think the way that this game should go, he's not going to be on the field very much.
So would you start any Detroit or New England running back over Chris Thompson?
No.
No.
No.
Okay.
Would you start Lamar Miller or Chris Thompson? Miller. Miller and non-Thompson in PPR. No. No. Okay. Would you start Lamar Miller or Chris Thompson?
Miller.
Miller and non-Thompson and PBR.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
Man, Thompson, 13 catches last week, six catches for 63 yards and a touchdown the week before.
Off to a great start.
Any Washington wide receivers?
No.
Jordan Reed, Chris Thompson.
How much do you like Jordan Reed, guys?
Packers, they were pretty good against tight ends last year.
He's as much of a must-start as a tight end can be that's not Ertz, Kelsey, or Drunk.
All right, fair enough.
Well said.
We're going to start Aaron Rodgers.
Green Bay running backs, what are we doing?
Avoid.
There's three of them now in that backfield.
Were we sitting in stunned silence there?
I wonder how much Jones is going to play based on what McCarthy said.
I don't have the confidence to start any of them.
I'd flex Jamal Williams in non-PPR.
Yeah, I am too, just out of need.
But I still think we haven't seen the best of him yet.
I mean, look, he's faced two of the best run defenses he's going to face all season
with the Bears and the Vikings.
I don't think the Redskins are in that category.
There are three running backs I had ranked between Isaiah Crowell and Bilal Pal
and non-PPR, and they're all back-to-back-to-back.
And I kind of feel the same about all of them.
It's Sonny Michel, then Jamal Williams, then Kerryon Johnson.
Yeah, I mean, Williams is going to play the most.
His pass blocking has been fantastic,
and I just don't think we've seen the best of what this run game can be.
Can he fall into the end zone?
Yeah, he could.
Yeah, I mean, look, they made Jordan Wilkins play good last week.
That's true.
They really did.
They did, yeah.
And they're going to be playing with the lead,
and I think he's going to get some fourth quarter work.
I don't mind Williams as a flex, but it's just hard to say he's a must-start guy.
Okay, what about the Packers wide receivers?
Obviously, Devontae Adams.
Are you starting Randall Cobb or Geronimo Allison?
I'd put Allison second over Cobb.
I'll take Cobb.
I'll flex both of them.
Yeah, they're both flexes, but I like the matchup for Cobb in the slot.
So who scores more fantasy points? A Packers wide receiver not named Devonta Adams,
so Cobb or Allison, or Jamal Williams?
What format?
PPR, it's a no-brainer.
It's going to be the receiver.
And I'll take the receiver and non-PPR as well.
I'll take Williams and non-PPR.
I'll take Williams and non-PPR.
Half PPR.
Williams.
Receivers.
Cobb. Allivers. Cobb.
All right.
Cobb or Funchess?
Funchess.
Cobb.
Cobb.
Jamie Allison or Funchess?
Funchess.
All right.
I think Funchess a lot this week.
Start Jimmy Graham.
This just in.
This just into the newsroom.
I'm settled. I've settled.
I've made my choice.
Choose the form,
as they say.
Sunday night, baby.
Lions Patriots.
Everybody's going to be great.
Where's your bonanza?
The running back for Detroit?
Well, do I have to choose one? You just said everybody's going to be great. There's your Bonanza. The running back for Detroit? Well,
do I have to choose one?
You just said everybody's going to be great.
Everybody that's being started.
That was the sentence that came out of your mouth.
Everyone being started is going to be great.
I think
for this to work, because you've picked
two teams
that have, like the Lions
have three startable receivers.
The Patriots have just a complete cluster at wide receiver.
Both teams have three running backs.
And so you're going to judge this by saying, yes, one of the running backs was good this week.
And one for each team will be.
I think you need to tell us, pick one running back for each team for this bonanza to be judged on.
James White.
Okay. And Kerry James White. Okay.
And Kerryon Johnson.
Okay.
That's fair.
And the receivers are tough, too.
I would say that there are—
Rank the receivers in this game.
Golden Tate.
Kenny Galladay.
Marvin Jones.
Chris Hogan,
Josh Gordon.
That's how I would rank it.
You forgot one.
Philip Dorsett.
The leading receiver for the Patriots so far.
Who am I forgetting?
Philip Dorsett.
The leading receiver for the Patriots so far.
I told everybody yesterday,
Dorsett had more targets, catches, and yards in week one than
Hogan has targets, catches, and yards through two games.
Yeah.
Which is just sick.
He might do well.
He might.
It's going to be a lot of points.
He may not play.
There's going to be 55 or more points in this game.
It's going to be a big one.
Colts are at the Eagles.
Stat of the game.
65 or more points.
Yeah, it should be.
Stat of the game.
Cheese steaks, according to Medium.com.
Surprisingly, cheese was not originally part of Pat and Harry Oliveri's original recipe for cheese steaks.
It was added later on by a manager of Pat's restaurant.
So was it called a cheese steak before it had cheese?
You know what?
Probably not.
But it seems like they invented a steak sandwich.
Somebody else was like, hey, throw some cheese on it,
and now they're famous.
I'm really mad about this.
We asked you this earlier.
We talked a lot about Carson Wentz.
Which quarterback do you like better?
Wait, you're getting a hedgehog?
Yes.
What?
Wait a minute. Jamie's reading Twitter while Adam does stat of the game and just found out I'm getting a hedgehog? Yes. What? Wait a minute.
Jamie's reading Twitter while Adam does stat of the game and just found out I'm getting a hedgehog.
You just found out you're getting a hedgehog?
Oh, I found out last night.
Did you approve of the hedgehog before the hedgehog was in your house?
This will be the fourth pet in our house, and I've approved none of them.
I don't have any – I have authority in many areas in my home.
What are they?
The pet ownership is not an area where I even get a vote.
All right.
I know you have a dog.
I have a dog that most people would call a cat.
Okay.
We have two frogs that my son got as tadpoles three years ago and are just gigantic frogs now, and they've lived three years in our house.
Okay. That's cool. And now we're going to have a hedgehog. Wow. The frogs don lived three years in our house. Okay, that's cool.
And now we're going to have a hedgehog.
The frogs don't actually hop around the house.
When do you start selling admission for your farm?
Luck or Wentz?
I'll go Luck.
I'll take Luck for now, but if T.Y. Hilton doesn't play
or even maybe Jack Doyle doesn't play,
it's not good news for him.
Wentz.
Is Anthony Costanzo going to play?
Also a name we have to keep tabs on.
Yeah, because there's a thought.
I was reading the Indianapolis Star earlier this week that when Costanzo gets back,
maybe they start taking more shots down the field.
But, yeah, right now Andrew Luck is averaging 5.93 yards per attempt.
That is lower than Dak Prescott and Eli Manning.
It is really awful.
So he's outside the top 12.
We talked about Wentz earlier.
Are we avoiding all of the,
we just say avoid the Colts running backs?
Yes.
They don't get enough work individually.
Yeah, although if Marlon Mack is out,
Jordan Wilkins looked good last week.
But was that because of the Redskins
or was that because of Jordan Wilkins?
Right now,
the Eagles are allowing 2.68
yards per carry to opposing running backs.
That's pretty good.
And they have faced Atlanta
and Tampa Bay.
And Devontae Freeman
averaged 6 yards per carry on 6 carries
or whatever that's worth.
The Colts wide receiver is just T.Y. Hilton.
We start T.Y. Hilton if he plays, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Tight ends for the Colts.
Any interest?
Absolutely.
Start him.
I don't like him.
Who do you like better?
Ebron, because he's healthier.
Yeah, if Doyle's out, Ebron might be a top four tight end.
I 100% agree.
All right. I think the Eagles might be a top four tight end. I 100% agree. All right.
I think the Eagles do a good job covering tight ends.
I know they had a hard time tackling O.J. Howard last week.
But for the most part, they've been good.
If you go back to last year, they've been good against him.
They have.
They played a lot of good tight ends last year.
Kelsey had a huge game.
Gronk had a good game.
Jordan Reed had a good game.
But not everybody did.
I don't know.
Jimmy Graham, eight points. Ingram, nine points. Rudolph, eight points. That was mean, I don't know. Jimmy Graham, eight points.
Ingram, nine points.
Rudolph, eight points.
That was at the end of last year.
Hunter Henry, seven points.
I mean, you get eight points.
That's good.
That's top six at tight ends.
I was looking at touchdowns more than yardage.
I mean, Ebron's targets would be close to ten.
Maybe.
How about the Eagles running backs?
I mean, I hope they said Ajayi.
Sproles doesn't sound like he's playing.
Corey Clement's a starter in PPR for sure and a borderline starter in non-PPR with Sproles up.
If you're playing DFS and Jay Ajayi's out, don't worry about Corey Clement's ownership.
Just take the free space.
Be smart somewhere else.
If Ajayi plays, would you start him?
In seasonal, yes. Be smart somewhere else. If Ajayi plays, would you start him? In seasonal, yes.
In daily, no.
He's going to be in that Leonard Fournette range, but behind him.
But there's not a lot after that.
Like a low-end number two running back.
Yeah.
Guy he hopes scores.
I'd definitely start Carlos Hido from him.
Would you start Jamal Williams or Jay Ajayi?
Ajayi.
Ajayi.
Ajayi.
How do you feel about Nelson Aguilar?
I think he keeps starting him in PPR.
In any format.
Yep.
Must start.
Aguilar or Tyler Boyd?
Aguilar.
That's not close.
Wrong category.
Aguilar or Devin Funchess?
Aguilar.
Still not the right category.
Aguilar or Phillip Lindsay?
Aguilar.
Still not the right category.
Aguilar or Jordan Howard? Aguilar. Still not the right category. Aguilar or Jordan Howard?
Howard.
All right.
Let's go to the next game.
Aguilar or PPR?
Aguilar or PPR.
Start Zach Ertz and start the Eagles DST.
Even though the Colts have allowed just three sacks this year.
We can probably do these last games pretty quickly.
We've got some good defenses here, some bad offenses.
Chicago's at Arizona.
Just real quick.
It sounds like Costanzo's not going to play.
He suffers a setback on Wednesday.
That's a bummer.
All right, guys, ten minutes for three games.
Chicago at Arizona.
Stat of the game number one, the Cardinals are on pace to score 48 points this year.
Tampa Bay scored 48 points at New Orleans in week one.
Stat of the game number two, the Bears allowed only one receiving touchdown
to a running back last year, and thus far have not allowed more than 23 receiving yards to a running back.
But we already talked about David Johnson.
Since we already talked about him, let's talk about Larry Fitzgerald.
Start us at Larry Fitzgerald.
Sit.
Until you see it from Fitzgerald, you can't use him in non-PPR.
He's a touchdown-dependent, volume-dependent wide receiver.
And if he's got volume, that'll help you in ppr but it's bad it's
i don't think like i talked about how david johnson can come through and have a good game
i don't think it's nearly as likely that larry fitzgerald can bounce back in the same way but
what's the difference once a great young running back who can do a ton of things and get 20 touches
and the other one's a 35 year old slug slug. One of the greatest wide receivers of all time.
He is one of the greatest.
But you're going based on past performance, though, right?
For what?
Sure, but I'm also looking at the recent pass for Larry Fitzgerald.
But hasn't the recent pass for David Johnson been done?
Well, let's give Johnson a little credit in week one.
I am, I just don't see much difference.
Johnson didn't get nearly as much work.
Neither of them did.
If one bouncing back,
I would think
you have to be somewhat hopeful that both can
bounce back. I'm going to speed it up, guys. I think it's much more likely
that Johnson bounces back. If Fitzgerald
practices fully today, I'm starting
him in non-PPR and flexing him in
non-PPR, starting him in none.
He had a good week one.
He only played half a game last week.
It just depends on how healthy he is.
Please start Josh Rosen.
Get that bum Bradford out of there.
Bum Bradford.
All right, let's go to the Bears then.
Trubisky is outside the top 20.
Jordan Howard is a top 12 running back in non-PPR, top 15 in PPR.
They say they want to get him more work.
Forget about starting or sitting Tariq Cohen.
He's 72% owned. If you were not the Jordan Howard owner, do you work. Forget about starting or sitting Tariq Cohen. He's 72%
owned. If you were not the Jordan Howard
owner, do you see any reason to hang on to Tariq Cohen?
No, even if I am the Jordan Howard
owner. Well, he has a handcuff.
Start or sit Alan Robinson?
Start.
My start.
Ready for this one? Robinson or Aguilar?
Aguilar.
I'm actually going to go Robinson in both.
I'll take Aguilar in both, but it's close.
The Cardinals have not allowed a touchdown to a wide receiver,
but three Rams receivers did have more than 63 yards.
The Washington receivers were terrible.
I don't know.
I mean, it was a tough matchup last year.
It's not the same team.
But, Heath, you're very confident in Allen Robinson?
I'm very confident in Allen Robinson.
I like targets.
And I think what's happening right now,
and we're going to talk about this more with the next player you're going to ask about,
that I'm probably going to move up a little bit because I'm too low on him,
but I'm just scared to death.
Mitchell Trubisky is one read and go right now.
He's not going through the progressions,
and that's leading to a situation where Allen Robinson has 21 targets
and nobody else has more than 12.
He's also not consistently accurate with his throws, which is a problem.
And Trey Burton is the guy that Heath was alluding to.
Jamie's got him ninth.
Dave, fifth.
Heath going to move him up from 16th.
Not a whole lot, though. Heath, going to move him up from 16th.
Not a whole lot, though.
I don't feel good about it.
It was nice that he scored the touchdown on the Travis Kelsey play last week,
but it's looked bad through two weeks.
He hasn't gotten the type of targets that we'd like.
He had six in week one, four in week two.
You almost wish he'd have seven or eight a game. I think the key will be, and I don't know how to know this,
but how many plays is Matt Nagy going to design
where Trey Burton's the first look?
Because that's who Trubisky's going to be.
That was supposed to be the case.
Yes.
But it's been Robinson.
You know what he's been?
He's been O.J. Howard.
What do you mean he's been O.J. Howard?
O.J. Howard has...
Target-wise, he's been O.J. Howard.
Oh, target-wise.
O.J. Howard averages like 50 yards per catch.
Howard has like six.
He's kind of been Austin Hooper.
Well, would you start Burton or a Colts tight end?
Both Colts.
Burton.
Both Colts.
Would you start Burton or Kittle?
Kittle.
Kittle.
I have Burton higher.
Burton or Disley?
Burton.
Burton.
That's right in the range of, am I going to move him up that high?
Right, right, right.
Could you make the case that they're similar,
in that they're both, at this point, touchdown dependent?
Yes, oh, for sure.
I mean, Disley did have the one long play.
Burton hasn't had that yet.
Disley is being targeted farther down the field than Burton is, for sure.
Bears VST, top three.
Let's go to Dallas at Seattle.
It looks like Sean Lee is going to play, so I won't really give the stat on Sean Lee.
But they were much worse with that.
Well, I mean, this Seattle run game is going to be in trouble now.
Stat of the game.
I've got three stats of the game.
What was it about Sean Lee?
Stat of the game number two.
Only four quarterbacks in Dallas' last 13 games have scored 20 or more fantasy points against the Cowboys.
Only one scored more than 23 fantasy points,
so it's a tough matchup for Russell Wilson.
Stat of the game number three, dating back to last year in Dallas' last 11 games,
only two opposing wide receivers have more than 70 yards.
Only five have scored double-digit fantasy points in non-PPR.
This pass defense is really good.
They are going to sack Russell Wilson quite a bit.
Is there anyone on Seattle you are confident in starting?
Will Disley.
Will Disley is the only one.
What about Russell Wilson?
Here's my problem.
No, no sense of confidence.
Here's my problem with the whole situation.
I don't even know that the Cowboys have an elite pass defense.
I think it's good.
Brian Schottenheimer is licking his chops right now
because Dallas does exactly what he has dreams about doing.
They've burned 52 offensive plays a game.
It's just slow, old, slobber-knocking football.
The Seahawks have run 55 plays a game.
There's not going to be enough opportunity.
Both teams are going to run, and it stays close, and it stays ugly.
Do you have the run-pass ratio for Seattle through the first two weeks of the season?
Oh, they've had to throw it a bunch because they've been behind.
Yeah.
But, you know, it's not running.
There's already dissension.
I mean, Russell Wilson's changing plays at line of scrimmage.
Pete Carroll's upset he's not following the plays. He's taking shots at Russell
Wilson about how it's
on him with some of the plays.
It's not good
right now. We've seen
this before. Last year,
Russell Wilson scored a combined
24 fantasy points in his first two games.
He was sacked three times in both games.
Then he scored 30 or more fantasy
points in four of his next five games. He had three games rest of season with fewer than 22. He was sacked three times in both games. Then he scored 30 or more fantasy points in four of his next five games.
And he had three games rest of season with fewer than 22.
He was amazing.
He's somewhat of a slow starter, but he doesn't have Doug Baldwin.
The Cowboys' defense is good, so we're sitting the Seahawks.
Will Disley is a borderline start.
I mean, I have a lot of Tyler Lockett, but—
He's number three receiver.
Yeah, I don't think you have to totally get away from him, but I don't want to start.
No.
And look, the same thing with Russell Wilson.
You guys didn't make a quarterback move, right?
We have a claim in.
I'm not going to say who it is.
We have a claim in for someone that's ranked higher than Russell Wilson.
Does he have a big, giant, pushy beard?
You know what, Dave?
It doesn't matter.
Oh, okay.
It doesn't matter.
You're not going to say?
Fine, for God's sake.
For the sake of the podcast, we have a claimant.
We have to be transparent.
For Jimmy Garoppolo, we're going to start Garoppolo over him.
Right.
That makes sense.
Are you dropping him?
No.
Okay.
No.
We need a win.
We need a win.
We're 0-2.
We need a win.
I think it's tough to see the upside with Russell Wilson, but I think he can do
enough to get you... What he did
last week? Close to 25 points.
I don't think 25 is in his realm of possibility.
I think 21 is about a ceiling.
Does he even have 20 rushing yards?
He's not running. It's very strange.
He is running. He's running for his life.
That is a very good point, Adam. I tweeted about this earlier
this week. He averaged 5-6
rush attempts almost every year of his career.
He has five attempts in two games so far.
17 rush yards last week.
And Dallas did struggle with Cam running in week one.
All right.
For the Cowboys, it's just Ezekiel Elliott, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Well, no, I think this is the week that they're receiving.
And the DSTs are both.
Your bet got a lot better last week.
What was the bet?
Beasley.
Oh, yeah.
He's not catching 90.
Fell off a little bit.
The Cowboys and Seahawks DSTs are both worth starting.
I think we like the Cowboys better.
In fact, Heath hates the Seahawks DST.
Not in the top 24.
Buffalo at Minnesota.
Stat of the game.. Buffalo at Minnesota.
Stat of the game.
This is actually interesting. Dating back to last season,
in Buffalo's last nine games,
including the postseason, only three opposing wide receivers have had more than 70
receiving yards. Twice it was Jarvis
Landry. And they faced
some good ones in there.
And Jarvis Landry is the only
wide receiver to score double-digit fantasy points
in non-PPR against the Bills in their last seven games of last year.
This year they haven't been quite as good.
Yards-wise, yes.
Touchdown-wise, no.
But, you know, look, I was surprised that Kirk Cousins wasn't a top-five quarterback.
He's 11th for Jamie, 12th for Dave, 8th for Heath.
Is that just because quarterback is so good?
Yes.
Okay. I am higher than that. You do just because quarterback is so good? Yes. Okay.
I am higher than that.
You do?
What do you have now?
8, I think.
8?
Okay.
So you're starting him over Wentz.
Fitzpatrick or Cousins?
Cousins.
Fitzpatrick.
Fitzpatrick.
The thing that concerns me about Cousins a little bit is does he have the flackle game?
Just comes out and it's easy for him, and he's not playing in the fourth quarter.
Is Dalvin Cook playing in the game, and does that impact Kirk Cousins?
No.
The only thing it might impact is they don't throw it to running back.
Right.
Cousins is going to get his numbers.
It's just a matter of how high the ceiling is.
Is he going to get you 28, 30?
Is he going to do what he did last week, or is he going to do what he did in week one?
All right, so start your Vikings, sit your bills.
Vikings' DST is number one overall, and Dalvin Cook is a must-start.
What about Latavius Murray?
Last thing, is there sleeper appeal here?
He only had four carries last week.
They've allowed five – they've allowed a touchdown or 90 total yards to five running backs in the first two weeks of the season.
Amazing.
Six total touchdowns allowed.
Eight fantasy points to four different running backs as well.
Okay.
Thank you, guys.
Good show.
And, again, go make sure that Murray is – if he's on your waiver wire, go add him just in case.
Because you'll start him this week.
You don't want to make the rush on Sunday and somebody else feeds him to you.
And also make sure Dan Bailey is not available.
There you go.
Yeah.
And add him one more thing.
Bye, Jamie.
Got to go.
Bye.
We got a mailbag coming up.
We're recording today.
We'll air it tomorrow.
And we got Ion Fantasy Football on Saturday night.
We'll talk to you then.
See you later, everybody.
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