Fantasy Football Today - 09/22 Fantasy Football Podcast: LAR-SF, Start or Sit Week 3

Episode Date: September 22, 2017

Week 3 is off to an awesome start after a Thursday night bonanza! Will we continue to see great offense this week? We begin by breaking down last night's game and wondering if it's time to sell Todd Gurley (3:14), Sammy Watkins (9:15) or Carlos Hyde (10:50) ... We give you some Week 3 sleepers (20:40) and play Beat the Waiver Wire (22:12) before getting into every game ... OAK-WAS (24:28), KC-LAC (31:40), TB-MIN (36:00), SEA-TEN (42:40), NO-CAR (46:19), CIN-GB (50:54), DAL-ARI (55:40), BAL-JAC (1:00:16), CLE-IND (1:02:30), ATL-DET (1:03:35), DEN-BUF (1:05:48), HOU-NE (1:08:23), MIA-NYJ (1:12:20), NYG-PHI (1:13:36), PIT-CHI (1:15:43) ... Email us at [e-mail] To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! Get your lineup set. It's time for Start or Sit. Let's go! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and T. Well, that was quite a start to Week 3, the highest-scoring Thursday night football game ever.

And we all saw it coming. That's why Sammy Watkins was started in just 39% of leagues. Good morning, everybody. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg. We're getting you ready for Week 3. We're going through every single game. I hope you listened to yesterday's show. Heath and I went over some tough calls, which we mostly will not repeat today,

so you're going to have to listen to the last 30 minutes or so of that show for some of your starts and advice. But Dave and Jamie, you ready to rock and roll? Let's do it. Jared Goff style. Yeah. That was so fun. That is going to end up being one of the most fun, entertaining games of the season.

Absolutely. And probably the best game of the season. It could be the best Thursday night game of all time. That's a great point. Yeah. I don't remember all of them. Yeah, because most of these games stink. Yeah, huge.

I think it beat the previous high score by seven points for the two combined teams. Highest scoring game in the history of Thursday night football. And I hope you had those guys in your FanDuel lineup. Sign up on FanDuel.com. Go to FanDuel.com and click the Join Now button and use our code CBSPOD. New users get free entry into the NFL Sunday Million with over $1 million in cash prizes when you make your first deposit on FanDuel and use that promo code CBSPOD. Void where prohibited.

So before we get into all the games, we will recap last night. We will tell you about a cool event next week That Jamie's going to be at Some sleepers and flexes for the week And we will beat the waiver wire Get ahead of the game for week four If you're looking ahead But first

Rams 41 Niners 39 And email of the day is from Nick I told my wife to start the Rams D and sit Pierre Garcon for Danny Amendola. What do I do? Well, Danny Amendola is good. I was going to say,

go figure out what her shoe size is and then buy her a nice pair of shoes and a bag to match. You're in the doghouse, pal. You sure are. You know, I was going to, this is why I don't let my wife play fantasy football, because she would ask me and I would tell

her, yeah, sit Sammy Watkins. This game's not going to be high scoring. Start the Rams D, and then I would get punched in the face. Yeah, or proflowers.com, promo code FFT. That's another answer for you. There you go. Tied to sponsoring. All right, this game was awesome,

and Sammy Watkins and Tavon Austin are both in the concussion protocol. This game was actually pretty brutal. A lot of defensive injuries. LaMarcus Joyner for the Rams, their safety, left, I think, on the first play of the second quarter. Their starting center, John Sullivan, got hurt one minute into the third quarter. And then after that, Todd Gurley had chances for touchdowns number four, and then what could have been number five, but he couldn't get in when they

lost their center. Still had a great game. San Francisco's defense is kind of beat up, so Carson Palmer, 75% owned, he gets them next week. I guess my overall question is, if we look at Gurley, Watkins, and Hyde in particular, and Heath and I talked about this yesterday, the schedule is absolutely brutal for the Rams going forward. After Dallas next week, Seattle, Jacksonville, Arizona, Abai, the Giants, Houston, Minnesota. Sell now.

Yeah, like to what degree do you want to sell Todd Gurley, Sammy Watkins? And then we'll talk about Hyde later. I got a question on Twitter this morning that I guess was something either before the game or after the game that was offered J.J., Jordy Nelson, and Dak Prescott for Todd Gurley and Kirk Cousins, and I told them don't even hesitate. Yeah. Accept it immediately. Yeah, that's pretty good.

I mean, if you're getting somebody that can be in the same range as Todd Gurley that has potentially disappointed, I don't know if I range as Todd Gurley, that has potentially disappointed. I don't know if I'd trade Todd Gurley for DeMarco Murray at this point. Oh, God, no. Certainly Ajayi I would consider. You would trade him for a player who would be a first-round pick right now. Or early second. Somebody that went ahead of him other than Murray.

Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing we had this conversation earlier this week. If you could trade Todd Gurley and you're getting back maybe one of the underperforming elite receivers like an A.J. Green or an Odell Beckham. Would you trade him for Odell? I was going to say Odell Beckham. Yep, or it seems like Jordy Nelson's fine. You can make that trade. But let me ask you this. Are you saying that because of the schedule or because you don't think Gurley is this good?

Well, look, yes, he had his first 100-yard game in God knows how long last night. 20 games? 21 games. Right. He didn't run well in week one. He was better in week two and certainly better in week three. But he's taking advantage of what's in front of him. And so the schedule is about to get tougher.

He's the first player since 2011 to score six touchdowns through three games. He's been fantastic. I mean, there's no way around it. There's only decline ahead. Can he sustain this? Not at this level. Can he be at a very good level? Absolutely.

I mean, we talked about this coming into the season. Better coach, better quarterback, better offensive line. And he's exceeded those things because those things have been better. So can Jared Goff continue to look like this? Can Sean McVay continue to coach, put his team in a position to be this successful? So against the opponents that they're going to face, it's going to be a little difficult, but you don't sell them for peanuts. I mean, he was a great player as a rookie. He is showing to be what they expected him to be when they drafted him out of Georgia.

I think it needs to be an overwhelming deal. I don't even think it needs to be like a one-for-one for Odell Beckham. I think it needs to almost be better than that. And I know that the schedule is tough. Oh, I would take Odell Beckham for him in a heartbeat. You might, but I look at the play calling and how much better it is compared to last year. And the offensive line is getting a little bit better. And I know that there's a couple matches ahead.

It's better. How many running backs are out there, Jamie and Adam, where you can almost count on them to get about 20 touches a week with goal line work? There aren't many. And Todd's one of them. And he's doing great. He's doing great as a receiver. He had one of his worst games as a receiver last night, and he's still had an amazing game.

He's great. But at some point, there's going to be a stretch of bad games. Oh, my God. The stretch of bad games is six straight bad games. Right. That's why you're trying to get something great for him. I know we just mentioned that it was going to be Seattle and then at Jacksonville and then Arizona. The Arizona game is in London.

Then they have a bye in Week 8. Then they take on the Giants when the Giants are coming off of a bye in New York, Houston at home, and then at Minnesota in week 11. So his next great matchup is week 12 at home against New Orleans. Well, his next great matchup is next week against the Cowboys. Oh, yeah, yeah, after that one. But you're right. Just to speed it up.

I'm not giving him up. That's the thing. I feel like if Gurley had – if everybody had the same schedule going forward, I do feel like Todd Gurley would be a top five pick in drafts right now. And I don't even know, maybe not quite that high, but he'd be close. And I don't even know that it wouldn't be justified. I mean, this is legitimate. You know, he's going to be so much more involved and the team is going to be better.

So it's really the schedule we're running away from. The fact that he catches so many passes, though, makes me wonder, like, am I being an idiot if I sell him? Am I giving up one of the best players in fantasy? I guess. That's right. You know what I think? And I agree.

I totally agree with Jamie's perspective, but I also see this other side like, ugh, I don't want to overreact to the schedule and give away. It's not overreacting to the schedule. It's just being smart. It's just looking at it as, again, you're not giving him up for somebody that's not good. If Odell Beckham runs off a stretch of four or five games and Gurley struggles, you're going to say, oh, my God, why didn't I take that trade? It's looking at who's the player that's on his level. And so if you're talking about players that are on his level, then those are trades you consider because of what's in front of him.

Then let me just say, like, you obviously, if you're going to trade him for Beckham, you need to have other running backs that you feel good starting. Oh, of course. I mean, it's not, you can't just say in a vacuum you're trading one for one without knowing what the whole entire spectrum of each team is. But if you can get elite-level talent for elite-level talent, and if the situation is better, Beckham's got a tough schedule. It's not like he's going to have a cakewalk if you're just looking at that guy.

But if you're talking about AJ Green, if you're talking about Odell Beckham, if you're talking about Julio Jones, who hasn't had the best start to the season, if you're looking at maybe trying to buy low on Le'Veon Bell, would you trade Le'Veon Bell for talking about Le'Veon Bell right now? Of course, yeah. Okay. And I think Zeke could maybe struggle again, maybe this week. And if he does, that will be my first offer.

I'm hoping like Devontae Freeman struggles. I don't think he will, but I'm hoping he does. And then I will offer Todd Gurley for Devontae Freeman. I would make that trade. Sure, sure. Beckham, by the way, I'm still a little concerned about the ankle. I'm not sure I would. I'm concerned about a lot.

Ankle, offensive line, protecting the quarterback. Yeah, it's the same as last year. Quarterback. He had the same situation last year. Yeah, he did. It just seems like it's a little worse. Well, it has been. And Odell's hurt on top of it.

All right, that's a different discussion for a different day. Sammy Watkins. Like, the schedule's probably even worse for him. Because he's had Sherman and Peterson and Ramsey and Jenkins and Rhodes coming up on the schedule. It sucks. And he's got a concussion. I guess we'll wait and see what the status is. But how

good do you think Sammy Watkins is going to be going forward? This is the guy you sell high on. Yep. Talk early you can if you get the right offer. If you just get an offer that just seems like a no-brainer, pull the trigger. Watkins, I think I'm going to try and offer in all my leagues. I'm in a bunch of leagues with Nick Costos.

Nick is a huge fan of Sammy Watkins. I'm going to see if I can make a fair deal with Watkins for a player on his team that can help my team. This is the time to do it because the matchups are tougher for him. They're going to be tougher for the Rams offensive line. They're going to be tougher for Jared Goff. I don't know if we can count on Jared Goff to keep playing like this. He was unbelievable. There were a couple of passes that he missed on last night, and I went on a text chain that Jamie and I are on,

and I said, hey, Goff seems inconsistent. And then I looked so stupid after that. First of all, I looked stupid for saying to sit Sammy Watkins. But then after that, Goff only missed on one pass in the second half. He was outstanding. Amazing catches along the way. But then after that, Goff only missed on one pass in the second half. He was outstanding. Amazing catches along the way. But I don't know if he can keep it up. I don't know if Sammy can keep it up.

We know how injury-prone he is. I would try and sell him. Let's just keep things in perspective. His two best games have come against the Colts and the 49ers. Yeah, and the 49ers a short week after playing Seattle. That's a really tough spot for them. Yeah, we should have really keyed in on that, I think. Yeah, maybe. I think we missed that.

Jamie, your take on Carlos Hyde and Pierre Garçon will wrap this game up and move on. Thankfully, Carlos Hyde was able to stick it out after hurting his hip early in the game. Was able to play very well for fantasy owners. Nice to see him finally find the end zone and the 49ers find the end zone.

So he's... I don't want to say he's in the same situation as Gurley because he's not coming up the same high of a high, but another guy that we talked about coming up last week. Injury track record, got banged up in this game, and inconsistent offense around him. So if you can get something great for Carlos Hyde, that's another guy you might want to consider shopping. And Garcon, this is the game why you drafted him. So if you can get something great for Carlos Hyde, that's another guy you might want to consider shopping. And Garcon, this is the game why you drafted him. A guy that's going to be featured in what I would assume more comeback efforts than competitive

games. And I guess you call it a comeback effort. They were down two touchdowns. But he had just one of the best catches you will ever see on the sideline play where he dragged his feet. He was dragging his feet before he caught the ball and just makes catch after catch. And he's one of those players, I think,

that will always be never be considered one of the great receivers in the league because there are so many great ones. But he's one of the better second-tier guys. And I think this is the type of game that you build off of. I don't think you could buy low on Pierre Garçon. You missed that window after last night's game. But if you could still get him somewhat cheap, I would look to do so.

Have you ever seen him have a game like this before? Yeah, in Washington with Kyle Shanahan. I think he looked outstanding. It might have been one of his best games. Statistically, it won't be, but I just think he made some unreal plays. Yeah, he really did. A lot of people did.

It was a great game. So fun. Yeah, and look, we don't want to sit here and say, like, every time you're running back as a good game, you should sell high on him or anything. But what we're really saying here is, like, we've seen a lot of the trades that have gone down. People getting Le'Veon Bell super cheap after two games. You know, it's not sell high.

It's sell, like, really high. Like, get a guy that you definitely like better than Carlos Hyde. Carlos Hyde's not good, and he's not going to be good. He's going to be good. Don't just sell for the sake of selling. It's high. That's the key that we're trying to come across. I don't want to make it sound like we hate every running back and they're not good.

No, it's just looking at situation. For Gurley, it's the schedule. For Hyde, it's his track record. I mean, he just has not been able to stay healthy. And he almost didn't last night. He came out. He got a little injury scare early. All right.

The first thing I thought of was our conversation from Tuesday or Sunday night. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And Pierre Garçon, by the way, was only started in 35% of leagues. So a lot of fantasy points on the bench in both quarterbacks. I started both those guys against you. You're beating me in one league, but I started both 49ers

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So my first trip to Los Angeles, and I'm looking forward to meeting. Yeah. Wow. I've been in the airport. I've never been to Los Angeles. Are you going to have time to take my advice on a meal recommendation? Yeah, I've been in the airport. I've never been to Los Angeles. Are you going to have time to take my advice on a meal recommendation? I was about to ask the same question.

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Just go. Okay. Now, I have great news for everybody. Dave, Jamie, you don't even know how good this news is. You don't even know what I'm about to say. But because last night was so good for fantasy owners, I've decided there will be no Bonanza this week. Take it away. Wow. Are you going to stick with that?

Because you've said that before, and then all of a sudden you're like, hey, guess what? Guy's Bonanza. And everybody gets mad at you. So I'm expecting you to stick with it. Stick it with it. I'm not feeling any game this week is a big bonanza. That's the real reason. I kept saying there was going to be a Gurley's fourth touchdown was coming on Twitter.

I'm sure you saw it because everybody kept tagging you in it. Why are you azering Todd Gurley? I didn't see that, actually. I haven't been on Twitter since the third quarter. Oh, yeah, there was a lot of that. And then I stole your line. I said, I'm a sorcerer. I've ruined Todd Gurley's chance at a touchdown. Oh, man. there was a lot of that. And then I stole your line. I said, I'm a sorcerer. I've ruined Todd Gurley's chances at a touchdown.

Oh, man, that was painful. All right, here are the news and notes. Carson Wentz has apparently been getting very lucky with turnovers this season. He, according to Pro Football Focus, has nine turnover-worthy plays so far this year. That's three more than any other quarterback. Dave, I know you like Carson Wentz. Does that scare you a little bit? Definitely.

But the reasons why I like Carson Wentz are because he's got good protection. The run game in Philadelphia is pretty close to nonexistent, which means that they're going to have him throw a lot. Not to mention run a little. So I would hope that he'd be able to clean that up a little bit. Obviously, if we know that, the Eagles know that, they'll probably ask him to take a little bit better care of the football. Let's see what happens. So we're going to go through these injuries very quickly here so we can get to the games. Let's do it. Sam Bradford was limited. Do

you expect him to play against Minnesota, or against Tampa Bay, Sam Bradford? Not sure yet. It's not one that's definitive. Jordan Howard was limited in practice. Do you expect Howard? Yes. Sounds like it. But I like Tariq Cohen better. People have been tweeting me about Terrell Pryor, his Instagram

account, and him showing his ankle. Have you guys seen this? Yes. Is it real? I didn't want to bring it up. I didn't know if it was real or not. I don't think he's on the injury report. No, but he's got a pretty messed up ankle. But do you care? No.

I think this is their best game yet from a passing standpoint for the Redskins. Yeah, that seems to be what we're all thinking here. J.J. Nelson is a hamstring issue. We expect him to play. J.J. Nelson? Yes. All right, let's go through the tight ends issue. We expect him to play. J.J. Nelson? Yes. Let's go through the tight ends. Do you expect them to play? Gronkowski?

Yes. Jimmy Graham? No. Tyler Eifert? No. He's already not expected to play. Jordan Reed? Yes. Bruce Arians expects more carries for Chris Johnson. Jay Ajayi has missed two straight practices, but will likely play this week at the Jets.

Devontae Parker, do we expect him? Yes, but we'll find out today. Carolina's going to ride the hot-handed running back. We'll talk about that game. DeMarco Murray did not practice. Do you expect DeMarco Murray against Seattle? There actually seems to be some optimism that he'll practice on Friday and play on Sunday. We don't want that to be the case.

We want to see Derrick Henry get that big opportunity. You know, I think we'll be able to talk about that in our mailbag show, which will air on Saturday. We're recording this afternoon, so hopefully we'll have an update. Tampa Bay defensive tackle Gerald McCoy was limited Thursday after not practicing Wednesday. But Quan Alexander remained out. If McCoy's out, that would really help Dalvin Cook. Green Bay linebacker Nick Perry having hand surgery. He's a good

player. Do you expect Rob Kelly? Yes. Melvin Gordon? Yes. Yeah, he popped up on the injury report on Thursday. But he should be fine. Let's see what happens on Friday, but as of now, yes. Chris Hogan? Yeah, brother. Danny Amendogan. Yeah, brother.

Danny Amendola. Yes, brother. Ooh. Terrence West. He practiced on Friday, and he's going to make the trip to London, so the Ravens must think he's got a chance to play. Well, they haven't practiced yet, and he's on the flight. He's on the flight.

But no, he's listed as practicing on Friday. I think they're already there. Maybe they might already be practicing. Maybe. I think they're already there. They might already be practicing. Maybe. Maybe they practiced on the plane. Week three sleepers. Can you guys just give me some names real quick? Sleepers that you're putting in your lineups, flexes.

Not obvious, guys. How about Jay Cutler? That's not a flex necessarily, but a quarterback. If you're not happy with Mariota, you're nervous about Jameis. Cutler, Dalton, Simeon, and Palmer would all be sleeper quarterbacks this week. Mixon, Stewart, Sproles, still Buck Allen even if Terrence West plays, Chris Thompson, Duke Johnson, Theo Riddick. Who's your favorite?

James White. Hold on. Yeah, all right, we'll throw White in there. Of those pass-catching running backs, Riddick, Johnson, Thompson, and White, who's your favorite? James White. Hold on. Yeah, all right. We'll throw White in there. Of those pass-catching running backs, Riddick, Johnson, Thompson, and White, who's your favorite? Oh, Riddick by a mile, given his opponent. Yeah. I don't know if Riddick's going to be the best, though,

because I think Amir Abdullah, we talked about this, he can catch the ball, too. I think they could both do damage against them. Yeah, but of this group, Riddick is my favorite by far. I think I like James White the best. And then I would put Duke Johnson second. James White's in there. Buck Allen would be at the top of the list if Terrence West was out. Buck Allen would be number one

by far. You have Devin Funchess, Rashard Higgins, Jermaine Curse. Funchess is a good one. I like Funchess. Kendall Wright. Okay, cool. Adam Thielen, Danny Amendola. Should we play Beat the Waiver Wire?

Should we look ahead to next week? Would you like to? I don't know, I'd rather get to the games I will say this, I didn't realize that Jacksonville And Baltimore are not, they don't have buys Next week, even though they're playing in London Yep, that's not a thing anymore Right, a lot of teams

Proved last year that they can get through that And have the buy later in the year. Elijah McGuire, that was the one guy I wanted to mention because Heath and I talked about running back stashes yesterday, like Wendell Smallwood and Jalen Richard and Orleans Darkwa. Elijah McGuire we didn't talk about. Is there a reason to pick him up now just to see what happens for the Jets this week? Depends on how deep your bench is

and depends on how much you want to trust anybody on the Jets. I'd also say if you want to speculate, I don't want to go down this rabbit hole again, but Jamal Williams, if the Packers are going to take some work off Tom Montgomery as one beat writer suggests, or sorry, the running back suggests. Okay, and then Carson Palmer gets the Niners next week,

Jay Cutler gets the Saints next week. And Andy Dalton is at Cleveland next week. So you might be able to start these guys for two straight weeks, weeks three and four, Palmer, Cutler, and Dalton. Check out this squad I've got for fantasy this week. Tom Brady, Devontae Freeman and Ty Montgomery, Antonio Brown and Odell Beckham. That's pretty good. That's it, five players competing against three other fantasy owners.

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They are road warriors, and they usually put up big numbers. But let's start with the Redskins. Well, which quarterback do you like better in this game, guys? Carr. Carr? Okay, but we love them both. If there were a B word, this game would be pretty bananas. Let's just let – no, no, no.

I don't even want you to think about it like that. I think what you should say is the ambassadors to wagering on pro and college sporting events in Las Vegas believe that this is going to be a high-scoring game. It's the

highest scoring total of the week. And because of that, you can expect lots of points to be scored. And that means lots of numbers for the quarterbacks involved. Yay. Okay. Something I'll be keeping an eye on for long term is I mentioned Gary and Conley yesterday, cornerback rookie for the Raiders, and their second-year safety, I think he's second-year,

Carl Joseph is also playing really well. So we'll see. They did a good job. Sean Smith may not play, though. I thought he was trending in the good direction. Look, I'm not making these decisions for this week. Yeah, it's all systems go for the Redskins, but if they do have a good game, the Raiders defense, maybe we start taking them a little bit more seriously.

But for now, Cousins is a top eight quarterback. Tell me about the Redskins running backs, Jamie, and what you're doing with these guys. I think you've got to avoid them in standard leagues if Kelly plays and Thompson is worth low-end starting option or flex in PPR. Thompson would be my favorite regardless because I don't know if Kelly at less than 100% will make it through the game or will be effective. And Thompson is clearly going to be involved regardless.

So you almost wish, if you have Thompson and PPR, that Kelly sits. Samajai Piran would be hands-off regardless. That's disappointing, because I feel like if Kelly were healthy, he'd be a pretty good start this week, right? I would agree. If he was healthy, he would be a low-end starting option. He would be okay. Like a flex, maybe. All right, Terrell Pryor is a start. And as we get into more games, I'll start circling back to the Redskins guys, comparing them to others so you have a better idea.

But Heath and I talked about Pryor yesterday. Jamison Crowder, are you guys going to start Jamison Crowder, who has seven catches for 61 yards on 12 targets through two games? Jay Gruden didn't step down when asked about Crowder this week and talked about how they want to get him certainly a little bit more involved and that he will come around and will still be in that two-receiver formation that we kind of bought into as one of the reasons to like Jamison Crowder this season. Again, expected to be a high-scoring game.

We know that Kirk Cousins should put the ball in the air a lot. We don't know how effective Jordan Reed will be if he plays. The door should be open for Crowder to get some more opportunities, and the slot matchup is going to be very good for him against the Raiders. I think it's TJ Carey that plays nickelback for them, and that's an exploitable matchup. He plays nickelback, like in the locker room? That is terrible.

And he's also their slot corner. Oh, that Nickelback. It could be both. I don't know what TJ Carey listens to to get him pumped up before the game. Some people listen to Streisand. Other people listen to Kiss. And maybe TJ Carey is down with a little bit of Nickelback. This is the Nickelback.

Jamison Crowder or Dez Bryant? I'd go Dez. I think it's close. I'll tell you how that ranked. Probably have Dez one spot higher, but it's not going to be easy for Dez. There's a higher ceiling this week for Jamison Crowder. Did you guys talk about Dez on Thursday's podcast? Yes, we did.

I know you guys. Dave, you like him. Jamie? I don't mind him this week. Number two. Yeah, he's going to get shut down by Peterson. I mean, Thursday's podcast. Yes, we did. I know you guys, Dave, you like him. Jamie. I don't mind him this week. Number two. Yeah, he's going to get shut down by Peterson. I mean, it's interesting. Wide receivers did really well against the Cardinals last year.

Peterson gave up not much, but he gave up a touchdown. That game's coming up shortly. Okay. Touchdown to Marvin Jones in week one. Save it. Save it. All right. Jordan Reed's a top five tight end.

You've got to start him if he plays. If he doesn't play, how much would you like Vernon Davis this week? Plenty, because he'd get a big opportunity with Jordan Reed out of there. Would you like him... He'd be at the bottom of the list of tight ends you could stream for week three.

He'd be at the bottom? Would he be ahead of Jason Witten? No. Not for me. Yeah, he would be. Would Vernon Davis? I have a lot more optimism for him. Okay. So would you go with, like, Vernon Davis or Jared Cook in the same game?

All right. Davis. I might go Cook. I like Cook's matchup. Yeah, Cook is 70% owned. He's 19th for Jamie. He's 15th for Dave. He's 19th for Jamie. He's 15th for Dave. He's 19th for Heath.

He's a little bit higher than that in PPR for everybody. Actually, same for Dave. He's 15th. Washington, so far, they've given up 90 yards to a tight end in two straight games. The Gerald Everett one was a little fluky. And they were really bad against good tight ends last year. But all of those guys had more than six targets, which is what Cook has gotten in each of the first two games.

So bottom line, Cook is 70% owned. If you're desperate, he's not a terrible option. There are a lot of guys who fit that description this week. We love Derek Carr. Fifth for Jamie, third for Dave, ninth for Heath. He's only thrown 60 passes in two games, and he's been dominant. The Oakland running backs this week, guys. Give me your thoughts on the Oakland running backs.

The only one you can start with confidence is Marshawn. You just don't know what you're going to get out of the other guys. Give me your thoughts on the Oakland running backs. The only one you can start with confidence is Marshawn. You just don't know what you're going to get out of the other guys. So start Marshawn, number two running back. I'd say he's number one this week, just given the injuries and the situation we're dealing with. He should get more work this week in what should be a more competitive game. Jalen Rashard or Chris Thompson? Thompson. Jalen Rashard or Chris Thompson? Thompson. Jalen Richard or Rob Kelly? Kelly.

Are you at all concerned about Amari Cooper, as Alshon Jeffrey and Sammy Watkins have each scored three fantasy points against the Redskins? Based on where he lines up, he'll see the most of Josh Norman, so it's a little troubling. But it's hard to get away from him completely, given the fact that Norman will not move around. So if they do move Cooper around a little bit, then he should be okay. Cooper or Crowder? Cooper.

Cooper. All right. So he's still a top 20 guy. He's not a total stud this week. Cooper or Crabtree? I kind of dig Crabtree. Crabtree might be in a better situation. I might need to reevaluate that.

But I have them very close. I think one is I have Cooper 16, Crabtree 18. I'll tell you the one thing I don't like about it is that I feel like I'm weighing. And I'm not doing this purposely, but people might view it this way that like, oh, Crabtree had three touchdowns last week, so let's put them in the top 12. Where Cooper didn't have three touchdowns last week, let's's put him in the top 12. Where Cooper didn't have three touchdowns last week, let's just put him in the top 20 or whatever it ends up being. I just think that Crabtree is, anytime we're in a game where the Raiders are expected to be in a shootout,

this guy's going to score. It seems safe, and I think the yardage will be pretty decent on top of it. All right, let's go to the Kansas City Chiefs and the Los Angeles Chargers. This smells like the best game of the week to me. I'm not sure what to really make of the Chargers so far. I'm a little nervous about saying that Phillip Rivers is a risky start this week. You have him 15th. Heath and I talked about Rivers yesterday, just so this isn't an hour and 40-minute show.

Can you give me quickly why you guys differ on Rivers? Jamie, you have him 11th ahead of Cutler and Simeon and Dalton. Dave, you have Rivers 15th, also ahead of Cutler and Simeon, but you just have a lot of other, like you have Palmer, Mariota, Winston ahead of Rivers. Jamie, kick it off. Why do you have Rivers in your top 12? Real quick, guys.

I think he's playing great. You know, he did really well in week one against a tough matchup against Denver and played well, didn't have a second touchdown, but his completion percentage was fantastic, over 300 yards against the Dolphins. And I think Kansas City's defense without

Eric Berry in there is just not the same. His offensive line's holding up. They should help him against a good pass rush. I know he doesn't have a very good track record against the Chiefs, but his weapons are as good as they've been ever. I hate the track record against the Chiefs. Six straight without 20 fantasy points, and I'm worried about that offensive line getting deluged by the Chiefs' pass rush.

All right, we'll stick with the Chargers, and obviously you're going to start Melvin Gordon. Keenan Allen could be a stud this week. Tyrell Williams, he said sit yesterday. Any disagreement? He just hasn't done enough. He does have probably one of the more favorable matchups on the field based on where he lines up and where Peters lines up.

So that could help him, but it's just hard to trust him right now given the fact that he's not in the top three of targets for this team, behind Allen, Henry, and Gordon, at least coming off of week two. You don't think that they kind of sacrifice Tyrell, along with some other receivers on that side of the field against Peters? Because I don't think Peters is going to follow Keenan Allen. No. So I wonder if they just kind of send whoever over there, whether it's him or

Tindon or Benjamin. They threw to him on Chris Harris in week one, but he's just not producing big plays yet. So with Benjamin healthy, that's their downfield threat. With Allen healthy, that's their every play threat. And Williams, this is what I feared with him, is he's fending for whatever's left over when the tight ends are involved. Tyrell Williams or Jermaine Kearse?

Kearse. I think Kearse is actually the smarter play. Certainly volume will be in his favor. All right, so back to this game here. I think the Chargers, you know, fairly easy. But do you like Hunter Henry this week against the Chiefs with no Eric Berry? Yeah. I think you start him because who else are you going to go with?

The only tight ends that I have that might be on your waiver wire that you could use are Doyle, Witten, Ebron, and Watson. It's four pretty good options. Yeah, there's no way I'm playing those guys over him. I'm, again, nervous about the Chiefs. What they do and how they scheme up against... When they had Barry on the field last year in Week 17, both tight ends scored against them. No, no, I think Barry got hurt in the first half

of that game. I don't know when the... Do you know when the touchdowns came? No, but I can check if you want. It's okay. But I was just going to bring that up. I mean, look, it doesn't matter because they don't have Barry. In fact, is Gates a good desperation play? Six yards and a touchdown. Sure.

All right. You're just hoping for that. For the Chiefs, Alex Smith or Phillip Rivers? Rivers. I would go Rivers. All right. So we don't really like Smith this week. Kareem Hunt, yes.

Tyreek Hill, you guys have him ranked pretty high. You have him as a top 15 guy in PPR. I think Jamie has him 16th, Dave 14th, Heath 18th. Why are you confident in Tyreek Hill this week? Jason Barrett's not going to play. That's a very good start. Even if he did, you know what type of a receiver Hill is. He's just got that type of big play potential.

Some weeks he's going to be awesome, and some weeks he'll struggle. I would downgrade him if Verrett was able to play, but they're down one of their best corners. You saw last week, Casey Hayward's good, but he can't cover everybody. Okay. Tampa Bay is at Minnesota. Jameis Winston. If Bradford plays, would you start Bradford over Winston?

No. No. Because he's not right. If he was right, it would be a different conversation, but he's not right. Do you like Jameis Winston this week, or are you getting away from him? I'd get away from him. I'm benching him in one league for Cutler and another league for Palmer. Yeah, I'm fine.

I'm definitely fine with Cutler. Oh, with Cutler, and another league for Palmer. Yeah, I'm fine. I'm definitely fine with the Cutler. Oh, the Cutler. Minnesota has held Drew Brees to 17 fantasy points, Ben Roethlisberger to 21 fantasy points in Pittsburgh with a terrible offense. Yes, they're very good. Minnesota's terrible offense. Yeah, this is obviously – Both the defenses are good.

Yeah, this could be a Costanza. So Simeon or Winston? Sorry, I don't know if you guys said that. Simeon or Winston? I'd go Simeon. Simeon. All right. But neither one is in my top 12.

Jacquez Rogers. I mean, you know, he's going to get work. Do we like him this week? No. They made Le'Veon Bell grind out 87 yards last week. You want to say that they contain the Saints running game. They probably would have been able to do that if they weren't a great defense, but they are a great defense.

And so Rodgers is at this point, work will be there for him, but he's touchdown dependent. And you don't want to rely on that against a good defense. Jock was Rodgers or Chris Thompson? Thompson. Yep. Even in standard? Yep. Alright, so if you have like...

I think you're hoping for six fantasy points from Rodgers. If he scores, it doubles. But if he doesn't score, and I don't think there's a great opportunity for him to score, then you know what you're dealing with. This is a very good defense, and I think they'll mess with Jameis too. All right, yesterday Heath said, I don't care about the matchups. I'm starting Mike Evans. Do you guys agree?

Yep. All right, Deshaun Jackson, kind of a number three receiver this week. Let's go Jermaine Curse, Tyrell Williams, Deshaun Jackson. How would you rank them? I would go with Jackson, Curse. Who was the third one? Tyrell. Jackson, Curse, Tyrell. i think what people will like about the

matchup for deshaun there's two things number one he probably won't see much of xavier rhodes the vikings i think they'd be smart to put rhodes on evans and that could actually make it hard on evans maybe we should take another look at him and consider downgrading him among the elite receivers not necessarily saying he's a sit or anything like that. Maybe you just don't use him in daily. Obviously, there's a lot of potential with him. But Deshaun will see a lot of Trey Waynes and the other cornerbacks there in Minnesota. And Jameis took shots at him last week, and they were very, very close.

You can tell that they're a little bit out of rhythm. But in a couple of weeks, they're absolutely going to be on the same page, and it will make this offense bombastic. Yeah, for what it's worth... I think he's okay as a flex. For what it's worth, Minnesota has allowed a 50-yard pass play in each of its first two games. Last year, they allowed only five pass plays of 40 or more yards all season.

Second fewest in the NFL. I'd still, I mean, I'm not starting Deshaun Jackson, but in that same league, I didn't start Sammy Watkins, so what the hell do I know? The problem is, if we say that Evans is going to do what he'm not starting Deshaun Jackson, but in that same league I didn't start Sammy Watkins, so what the hell do I know? If we say that Evans is going to do what he does and Deshaun Jackson's going to do well, then how can we say that Jameis Winston's going to have a bad game? He'd have to throw three interceptions. If you want to feel better about Mike Evans, he scored.

He had big games at Arizona, at Kansas City, huge game against Seattle last year, so he's very good. Cameron Brait, no, right? No Brait? No. Sam Bradford, if he plays, they're kind of hesitant to start him. He's 53% owned. Dalvin Cook is top 13, top 12 for you guys.

Even if Gerald McCoy plays, you're okay with Cook? Yep. All right. And the wide receivers from Minnesota. Yeah, what do we do? I mean, all right, tell me. What do we do with the wide receivers from Minnesota? Jamie?

I think they're both number three options. Diggs is going to have the tougher matchup of the two between him and Thielen because he will still line up more on the outside than Thielen will, who's been more of their slot guy. So I would not love the scenario if Sam Bradford doesn't play. If Bradford does play, that clearly helps things. But you saw what the downside could be last week when Keenum was under center for them. So PPR, I think they're both still potential starters for you,

certainly three receiver leagues, but standard formats, you may want to avoid them. Do you think that part of the reason why they really sunk last week was because Keenum didn't get a full week's worth of practice with them? Maybe got thrust into the starting job late in the week, and maybe this week, I know Bradford's been limited, but maybe Keenum's had more of an opportunity to get on the same page with these guys, and they might have some better chances. Certainly could help, but I really buy into this Tampa Bay defense, too.

They have two great corners in Hargraves and Grimes. They have a very good pass rush. I still don't think that this Vikings offensive line is as good as they looked in Week 1 because they played a terrible opponent. And so if Keenum's under center, I would try and avoid the Vikings receivers. But what if he's not? Are they number two guys if Bradford's playing? I don't think I'll move them very much.

Diggs maybe a couple spots. Dillon's probably going to stay in the number three range. It's buying into Tampa Bay's defense. They were very good at the end of last season once Mike Smith got them doing what he wanted them to do. And for one game against a crappy team, they're off to a good start. But I'd just like to tell them that's out of the ball. All right, start Kyle Rudolph. And then the Bucs defense will be really interesting if Bradford doesn't play.

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Starter sit Russell Wilson. Starter sit Marcus Mariota. I think Mariota is easier to get away from of the two, just given the matchup. The pass rush of the Seahawks, the secondary of the Seahawks, and the lack of weapons that have even halfway decent matchups for Mariota. Winston's the tougher one. He's still in my top 12. It's a little bit by default.

But I'm nervous about this being a low-scoring game. Now, I was nervous about Thursday night's game being a low-scoring game, and look what happened. I don't know if a shootout is going to break out between these two teams. I'm going to end up starting Wilson in a couple of leagues. As much as I like Wentz, I would take Wilson ahead of him. But I've got Cutler ahead of him. I like Cutler's matchup better.

I think Cutler could end up with a nice, safe stat line compared to Wilson. Does it make you a little bit nervous to see that Jared Goff just shredded this 49ers defense and Russell Wilson struggled against them? At home. And he hasn't looked good so far through two games. The flip side of that would be is that at some point

they're going to start to click a little bit offensively, certainly in their passing game, because Doug Baldwin has yet to play well. But Tyler Lockett seemingly getting healthy, got nine targets last week. Paul Richardson is going to play through the finger dislocation, but he scored a touchdown even while he was hurt. I don't even know if it matters with Jimmy Graham, because we saw those receivers in 2015 play a lot better when Graham was out.

So Wilson, Keith alluded to this Sunday night that he finally started to run a little bit toward the end of that game last week against San Francisco. I don't know if he's going to be in the 25 plus point range but I could see this being his first 20 point game. And so I would still start him if I have him. I think I have him in one league. I'm not getting away from him. It clearly depends on who else you have. I'm not going to make a move to pick up Cutler. I'm not going to make a move to pick up Dalton or Palmer yet as the Russell Wilson owner.

This is another week, I think, where you can still buy into him. There's one other thing we should say, and that is he missed on a—he didn't miss. His receivers dropped touchdowns last week. And that's obviously something that's going to make any quarterback stats look bad. And as far as Mariota goes, try to get away from him. The guys have Alex Smith ahead of him, Carson Palmer ahead of him. Heath is a little higher on Mariota, but Dave and Jamie are not. He's like 18th or 19th.

Now, Heath and I talked a lot about the running backs in this game yesterday. So Chris Carson is a solid number two running back. We'll talk more about him as we compare him to other players. But now that we're thinking DeMarco Murray may not play, would you rather have Chris Carson this week or Derrick Henry? Henry for me. If Murray is out, Henry. If Murray is in, Carson. All right. I think I'll take Henry either way. Really?

Yeah. Well, you're kind of low on Carson. You've been 23rd. Yeah, I think he's a low-end number two running back. There's no guarantee about how much work he's going to get. I think he should be the every down back. I thought he should have been coming out of the preseason. But can you say the same thing about Henry?

There's no guarantee how much work he's going to get if Murray's healthy. If Murray's healthy, I would imagine he wouldn't be in a heavy workload. It could be a split, and it could be something where Henry handles the rushing downs and Murray handles the passing downs. I would anticipate if Murray plays that Carson would get more touches just based on what we saw last week, because both could potentially be in timeshares, but one would be coming off of a tremendous game with a suspect group around him. The other would be coming off a tremendous game with a much more proven guy. The other would be coming off a tremendous game with a much more proven guy around him.

Are you starting any wide receiver in this game other than Doug Baldwin? No, I don't want to. Okay, Seattle DST, top 10. Might not be a great week for them, but you're still going to start them. The Saints are at the Carolina Panthers. All right, we talked about Drew Brees yesterday,

and Heath is not concerned, and you guys aren't really either. You guys have him ninth. Heath has Brees third. So if you have Kirk Cousins, if you have Derek Carr, you could start them over Drew Brees. The Saints running backs, do you feel comfortable starting? This is going to be Mark Ingram's week.

I don't know if he's going to do well. It's a tough matchup. It's a tough matchup, but he's going to get the work. What do you think? So what does that mean? Like 12 carries for 36 yards? I'm not starting him. Four catches for another 30 yards? I'm not starting him because... He's 60 or 70 yards. He's a little bit more appealing in PPR. He's been averaging four and a half catches per game.

This week is bad. Adam, we have him in the Dynasty League team that we share. No. And he's on the bench for Christian McCaffrey, Chris Carson, and I think we only started two running backs in that league because we start two flexes. And we went with Pierre Garçon and who's – oh, Buck Allen. Yeah, no, totally cool. Not this week, but it's going to start becoming his job again

Get that Peterson guy out of here You know what's fun about that Dynasty League, Adam? That I'm not on the emails anymore? That we share? Well, you would have been happy with this Somebody dropped Julian Edelman And we picked him up Oh, very good, good job

Yeah, so we have Julian Edelman next year for nothing Terrific So, Michael Thomas is a go Anyone else? Very good. Good job. We have Julian Edelman next year for nothing. Terrific. Michael Thomas is a go. Anyone else? Nobody's going to start like Brandon Coleman. Starters to Kobe Fleener. Look, there's two great trends if you want to buy into it.

Three games in a row where Willie Sneed has been out going back to last year. Three games where Kobe Fleener scored a touchdown. He faced the Panthers twice as a member of the Saints last year, scored in both of those games. So touchdown should be in his future for this week. All right, Fleener or Martellus Bennett? I'd go Bennett.

Bennett. All right, so they're both starts. Cam Newton, you guys like Cam Newton this week. Jamie's your start of the week. He's number three for you. Yep, I think this will be his best game. It's a little bit on hope, but there's a good chance that he has the game against the Saints

that you were hoping for him to have against the Bills and the 49ers. The last two quarterbacks to face New Orleans, they average 33 fantasy points per game. And in Cam's 12-game history against New Orleans, he's averaging 23 fantasy points per game. It's very weird, though, because he has six games with, I think it's 27 or more points, and six games with 16 or less. Against the Saints? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Last year, and six games with 16 or less. Against the Saints? Yeah.

I mean, I don't know. Last year he was bad in the home game. He was great at New Orleans. So that was my only concern. Yeah, the home game, though, was after he hurt his shoulder. Okay. Okay, so Cam, look, start him this week and let's hope for the best. And then which running back do you like better, guys, for the Panthers?

Still McCaffrey, but it's very close. They're both good? you like better, guys, for the Panthers? Still McCaffrey, but it's very close. I like Stewart because of the potential to sit on the lead in this game and attack that Saints defense. And again, you want to look at track record. Last five games against New Orleans, 92 carries, 405 yards, and five touchdowns. How about Stewart? Would you start these guys over Chris Carson? Yes.

I would. McCaffrey, yes, definitely PPR, and probably Stewart. I think there's just a little bit more safety with those guys. Stewart, McCaffrey, Carson. Stewart, McCaffrey, Carson. I may go Carson over Stewart in standard leagues. How about you mean Carson over Stewart in standard or Carson over McCaffrey in standard? Carson over Stewart in standard leagues. How about, you mean Carson over Stewart in standard or Carson over McCaffrey in standard? Carson over Stewart

in standard league. I think McCaffrey's the best running back of that group. I think this is McCaffrey's best game. Calvin Benjamin, the must start. Calvin Benjamin or, well, you guys have Calvin Benjamin in your top ten, so start him. Devin Funchess or Rob Kelly?

Funchess. F Kelly? Funchess. Funchess has more upside. Cam made some great throws to him last week, and he actually looked pretty good running around. He just doesn't have great hands. He's probably going to drop a few. The catch rate's an issue, but the matchup is beautiful. Funchess or Crowder?

I might take the shot on Funchess. Crowder. All right. Funchess or Crowder? I might take the shot on Funchess. Crowder. All right. Funchess is only 32% owned. And Ed Dixon is about 20th. So, you know, deep sleeper. Cincinnati at Green Bay. Well, I didn't ask you guys.

Which wide receivers do you expect to play for Green Bay? Not Cobb. But Jordy? Jordy, he's been practicing. Gotta think he's gonna play. Alright, we know that, we're starting Aaron Rodgers. We know that, and Montgomery is easy. The Bengals

have had a lot of success against outside receivers going back to last year. Hesitant at all with, let's say, Devontae Adams? You're gonna start Jordy Nelson. But Devontae Adams, are you hesitant at all? Nah, no. They can't contain this offense. They're not playing the Texans this week. AJ Green is a start here.

Obviously, Dalton over Mariota? Yeah, I think this is Dalton's best game so far. That's not saying much because he has a total of four fantasy points through two games. But I think there's two things working in his favor. They want to speed up the offense. Lazer's got a track record of leaning on his quarterbacks, and they're going to be chasing points. So we typically see teams in Green Bay,

especially when their offense is right, having to come from behind efforts. And so I think that the loss of Mike Daniels for the Packers, if he's out, is going to really impact that defense in a big way. I also don't buy into the secondary. They've done an amazing job against Russell Wilson and Matt Ryan in consecutive

weeks. I don't know if really that's... I think part of the reason why they've done so well is because those quarterbacks haven't thrown a lot against Green Bay. Both of them under 30 pass attempts. Dalton's going to attempt 35 passes in this game. Oh, more. Over. 36?

I'll go over for it. Well, right. So let's go to the Cincinnati running game. Because Martellus Bennett, just to finish up with the Packers, Martellus Bennett is a solid start this week. He's top 10 guys, 6th for Jamie. He's 11th for Dave and 6 sixth for Heath. So you can start Bennett. And tight end's

kind of weak this week, let's be honest. A lot of injuries. So, what was I saying? Oh, Joe Mixon would obviously be your favorite. I'm thinking he would be your favorite. But if it's a passing game, maybe Gio Bernard is a sleeper if they're trailing. That's kind of how I feel about it. The thing I've noticed from watching this offense

for two weeks, and yes, you can thing I've noticed from watching this offense for two weeks, and yes, you can feel bad for me for watching this offense, Gio plays a lot. He's in in passing situations. He's in in the two-minute drill. He's played as many snaps as Mixon and Hill combined. We had a long talk on FFT about Joe Mixon and why he should be the guy, which I agree with.

Jamie's making the point for it. Jamie's got him as a start this week. But we're not the coaches in Cincinnati, and so far they've been pretty dumb with how they've gone about their running game. I think Giovanni Bernard in a PPR league could be better than Mixon this week. I think he could end up catching a lot of passes. And if Dalton's throwing 40 passes, then Gio should theoretically play a lot more. As much as Gio has played on passing downs, Mixon has four catches to his

three, so they're still using Mixon in the passing game in terms of throwing the ball to their guys as much if not more than Geo. Targets were let's see, Geo's got six, Mixon's got four, so they are looking for Geo in that regard. I just think that

after what Marvin Lewis said, jobs are on the line, the fact that they made the coordinator change, that they're staring down 0-2, that Mike Daniels is out. There are a lot of things pointing in the favor of the guy who's been their touch leader, and I just don't understand why if you're going to make him your touch leader, don't make it 10 or 12 or 13, whatever the case has been. Give him 15-plus. Give him 20-plus.

Put Jeremy Hill in a reserve role. Use Geo on pass downs. Yes, I think Gio is a potential sleeper in PPR, as you guys alluded to. But this should be the game where Mixon gets a full workload. Slow down the opposing team's offense, which is better than yours, and speed up your offense by getting the faster, more talented players on the field. That being said— So it's a leap of faith.

It's the thought of, do you want to have Chris Carson in your lineup when he breaks out or watching him break out? So it's not across the board you have to start Joe Mixon. I have Mixon in one league where unlucky 0-2 start for a couple different circumstances, and I'm facing a team that's just loaded. So I'm putting all my best bullets in the gun and saying, here we go. And I think Joe Mixon has a breakout game this week against Green Bay. Okay, but yeah, it's kind of a Hail Mary. It is a gamble, so we're not saying you have to start. Totally, totally understand.

Yeah, all right. Okay, so is there a sleeper in the Cincinnati passing game, considering Tyler Eifert will be out? Just give me a name or a yes or a no. LaFell. Brandon LaFell. Okay. Deep sleeper?

Is that fair? Deep sleeper. DFS sleeper. You saw Sanu, you know, secondary receiver, take advantage of them. I think LaFell could be in a similar situation. All right, we go to Dallas at Arizona. Anybody you want to start other than Zeke? We're going to start Zeke.

But Dave, we're not starting Prescott. You want to start Dez, though? He's got a good track record against Patrick Peterson. He's played against him twice. He scored on him twice. One game he didn't have a lot of catches or yards. He dominated him in the last matchup in 2014, and he got a garbage-time touchdown on two catches for 14 yards.

So he got completely outplayed. No, I don't want that to be the stat line for Dez Bryant. Every story coming out of that game was that was Patrick Peterson's breakout game after he dealt with the diabetes issue and after he got his big contract because he didn't get off to a good start that season, but he completely owned Dez Bryant in that game. So I don't think Dez is going gonna have a good game at all okay i love the targets and we always talk about how you can buy into targets and 25 targets has to mean something and the fact that this is going to be a game where i almost wonder if denver laid out an

interesting blueprint for how to take down dallas they really clogged the gaps of the offensive line and kind of dared Dak to throw. And lesser teams with bad defenses would struggle in that regard. Arizona, I don't know if they stick Peterson on Dez, it's still going to mean a lot of one-on-one matches. And I think Dak is still going to fire at Dez in those matchups. I don't mind him this week. I think he can score. It's expected to be a fairly high scoring game. I at Dez in those matchups. I don't mind him this week. I think he can score. It's expected to be a fairly high-scoring game. I think Dez won't disappoint you. You think it'll be a high-scoring game? That's what the line says. I would tend to think it's more low-scoring if these teams perform the way they've been performing

because Arizona's offense does not look good. Clearly injuries have been a part of that, and Dallas doesn't typically put up big, big numbers when they're facing competitive defenses. The one thing that also concerns me about Dez is that it took a perfect back shoulder throw against a keep to lead for him to score a touchdown in that game last week. So the targets are fantastic. It's certainly something, and I'll go back to what I said about Dez when we were talking about his tough matchups in the preseason. You want to see great players. You want to trust in great players because they tend to make great plays,

and he's getting the opportunities. They took shots against the Giants. He struggled. They took shots against Denver. He came through with the touchdown. I think this is going to be another game where he struggles, so he's more of a number three receiver for me. Jason Witten or Kobe Fleener?

Fleener. Witten for me. Jason Witten or Martellus Bennett? Witten for me still. If Cobb is out for sure, then I might make a change. Yep, I think this is the letdown game for Witten coming up. Okay, we know that they struggled last week against Jack Doyle, but Arizona was number one against tight ends last season

and completely shut down in a deep run. And they're coming home. Two straight road games coming back to Arizona. It's going to be a tough game for Dallas. Carson Palmer, 75% 0-15th for both of you guys, 11th for Heath. So obviously it's a good matchup. And we love J.J. Nelson this week. Would you start J.J. Nelson or Dez Bryant?

J.J. Nelson, it's not close. I'd go Dez. J.J. Nelson or Amari Cooper? I might go Nelson. I don't disagree with that. And Larry Fitzgerald is ranked similarly to J.J. Nelson, right? He's behind for me. Me too.

But the Cowboys secondary is all made up. If they get Skandrick back, that'll be a tougher matchup for Fitzgerald to deal with. Chris Johnson or Joe Mixon? Mixon. I'll take Johnson. Yeah?

What are you expecting? Oh, no, no, no. They're back-to-back in my rankings. I thought I had Johnson ahead of Mixon. Maybe it's a Freudian slip. Maybe I should say Johnson. He's expected to be the guy with the most carries for Arizona, believe it or not. Yes, C.J. Anderson just became the first running back in 12 games,

including the postseason, to rush for more than 67 yards against Dallas. We'll see. So Chris Johnson, let me do some flexes here. Chris Johnson or Devin Funchess? Funchess, PPR, Johnson standard. Jamie? I'm sorry? Johnson or Funchess Funchess

Johnson or Nelson Aguilar Johnson Johnson Johnson or Macklin Macklin I might take Aguilar and PPR Full point PPR

Okay It was Aguilar No PPR. Full point PPR. Okay. It was Aguilar or Manth? No, now it's Macklin. There's two. Aguilar or Chris Johnson. And then Macklin or Chris Johnson. I would take Johnson over Macklin and Macklin over Aguilar. All right.

So let's go to Baltimore or Jacksonville in London. 9.30 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. No Flacco. I love these games. Yeah, I do too. I love waking up and watching. No Flacco, no Bortles. Don I love these games. Yeah, I do too. I love waking up and watching. No Flacco, no Bortles. Don't start these guys.

Fournette. Well, who's the best running back in this game? Let me ask you that. Fournette. If Javorius Allen is the only guy for Baltimore, it's Allen. Okay. Fair. Okay.

And it might still be Allen anyway if Terrence West does play because he's not going to be 100%. If both Ravens running backs play, which one do you prefer? Allen. I think it would have to be Allen at this point. So who the heck are we starting in this game? The Ravens defense. Ravens defense should be good. Start with them.

I'll take Justin Tucker. And I'll take Benjamin Watson Yep, the Jaguars have allowed a ton of numbers To tight ends through two weeks And if they say, well, we'll button that up This is a bad opponent To try and button that up against I think volume will be there for Watson No Jacksonville wide receivers

No Alright, Macklin or Let's see I think volume will be there for Watson. No Jacksonville wide receivers. No. All right, Macklin or let's see where he's ranked. Macklin or Kenny Galladay? I'll take a chance on Galladay. Yeah, I'll go Macklin. Macklin or Mohamed Sanu? Macklin. That's an interesting one.

Probably Macklin still, But Sanu could be good Chris Carson or Leonard Fournette Fournette Carson Derek Henry or Leonard Fournette Henry even if Murray plays Wow alright so not expecting big things from Fournette this week Just kind of lowered expectations

This is a tough and stingy defense They're going to be without one of their big defensive linemen who didn't even make the trip, Brandon Williams. Mightn't be their best defensive lineman, but they've got Jernigan, too. No, they don't. They've got another guy.

I can't remember who it is off the top of my head. But I think Fournette is just going to be in a situation where he's going to have to score. And if he doesn't score, he's going to stink. He's going to be 60 yards. Light speed is too slow, guys. Prepare the ship for ludicrous speed.

Cleveland at Indianapolis. We talked about these running backs on yesterday's show, so tune into that. And if we're not going to talk about the running backs, who in this game is worth talking about? Are there any players worth starting other than potentially Crowell and Frank Gore in Cleveland Indy? T.Y. Hilton? Yeah, would you start? As a third receiver.

Hilton or Macklin? Hilton. Macklin. Where do you have Hilton, Jamie? Top 30. All right. All right, come on, T.Y. This will be his best game so far.

Please, please, we need it. Jack Doyle. Jack Doyle is what's starting. He's 71 come on. This will be his best game so far. Please, please, we need it. Jack Doyle. Jack Doyle is what's starting. He's 71% owned. For sure. And he's still out there on the waiver wire in a couple of leagues. I had a dream about him having a touchdown and double digits and fantasy points. I really did.

I'm a weirdo, but I did. Yeah, so so far. Fourth quarter touchdown. So far, Jesse James scored two touchdowns, scored 16 fantasy points against Cleveland, and Ben Watson had eight catches for 91 yards on eight targets. So Jack Doyle, definitely somebody worth getting 71% on. T.Y. Hilton or Chris Carson? Carson.

Carson. Done with this game. Atlanta at Detroit. No Vic Beasley for Atlanta, so that should help for Matthew Stafford. No Courtney Upshaw either. Oh. No Vic Beasley for Atlanta, so that should help for Matthew Stafford. No Courtney Upshaw either. Oh. Yeah, this is a really good opportunity for the Lions to flash and win.

I think they win. Ooh, like it. So then we did talk about Amir Abdullah and Theo Riddick on yesterday's show. They're both worth looking at. Stafford, how much do you like him? Do you like Stafford or Russell Wilson this week? Stafford. Stafford. I like Stafford a lot.

Or Cousins? Stafford. Really? Stafford's top five quarterback for me. Ooh, all right. So then we're obviously starting Golden Tate. Marvin Jones or Kenny Galladay? Which guy do you like better?

Jones. I've got Galladay hired on the fact that he could catch a bomb. Marvin Jones. Jones has actually scored in four straight games, two in the preseason, two in the regular season. Come on. Marvin Jones or Michael Crabtree? Crabtree.

Crabtree. Sorry, I actually meant to say Marvin Jones or Amari Cooper. Cooper. Cooper. Marvin Jones or Dez Bryant? I know Dave is going to say Dez. Jamie, who do you. Cooper. Marvin Jones or Dez Bryant? I know Dave is going to say Dez. Jamie, who do you think? I would still take Dez there.

All right. And Eric Ebron, you like him. How much do you like Ebron? Do you like him better than Jack Doyle this week? No. I don't like him better than Doyle, but I think he's still going to finish as a top ten tight end. Again, where people are winning against the Falcons in the past is against their linebackers.

Safety's two. And I think that this is going to be where the Lions attack with their tight ends, with their running backs, and then they mix in Golden Tate. It's a good matchup for Golden Tate there. Yep. And I think they get some deep shots going, too. That's why I like Gallaudet. You guys have Sanu pretty low.

He's outside the top 40. He's higher in PPR. I think he's actually a fairly safe full-point PPR receiver. Sanu is 66% owned. Do not start Austin Hoopa. Do not start the DSTs. I'll just ask a quick Amir Abdullah question. Do you like Amir Abdullah

or Buck Allen this week? Allen if West is out. Abdullah if West isn't. Gotcha. I think that's how I have it ranked as well. Denver at Buffalo. And both teams might be missing their left tackle. Denver definitely will be.

Buffalo could be without Cordy Glenn. Oh, you know, they had Garrett Bulls practicing on Thursday. No kidding. I don't know if it's a guarantee that he's going to play. It seemed as if he was out there looking like this week. I'd be stunned if he played, to be honest. But I was also stunned to see him practicing. Trevor Simeon is 13th for both of you guys.

He is ahead of Carson Palmer. He's ahead of Mariota. He's ahead of Dak Prescott. Trevor Simeon is someone you can go with this week. And C.J. Anderson, at this point, he's clearly a must start. Heath and I talked about LeSean McCoy on yesterday's show. Would you start Derrick Henry over LeSean McCoy? No.

Okay. Even if the Michael Murray is out. We've downgraded McCoy, but not that much. He's still a top 15 guy. If Murray's out, I would start Henry. Over LeSean McCoy. Even if the Michael Murray is out. We've downgraded McCoy, but not that much. He's still a top 15 guy. Oh, if Murray's out, I would start Henry. Over LeSean McCoy? Mm-hmm. Okay.

No Bills receivers, right? Easy. Not unless you want, like, five, six fantasy points. Don't start Charles Clay, even though he talked about how he might have a decent matchup here. And so I guess it just comes down to the Denver wide receivers and how much we like them. Which guy do you like better? Demarius or Sanders? I've got Demarius higher

still. The one thing would be is Demarius is banged up. So he's playing hurt. Should be okay. But I think you're looking at Thomas can still get more targets. I'm looking at a Bills defense that's going to play a lot of zone, so they want to keep all the receivers in front of them. It's tough to

beat them on deep balls. I believe Buffalo's been really good against the pass so far this season. If volume matters, Demarius should win in that regard over Emmanuel Sanders. We'll find out if Buffalo's defense is legit this week. This is going to be a pretty decent test for them, but if that offensive line isn't perfect for Denver, Simeon will be under attack. He's going to be on the road,

and the secondary has been playing pretty well. They've got a good strategy, at least. We've got, by the way, Jamie, you said Thomas. I was like, who the hell is Thomas? Everybody calls him Demarius. I had to think about that one So, yeah, start the Denver DST as well Emmanuel Sanders

And let's compare him to J.J. Nelson Who would you rather start, Sanders or J.J.? Nelson for me Okay Sanders Alrighty Houston's at New England. Will it be a slaughter, like always?

Yes. Of course. Of course. Why would you even ask, Adam? So we like the Patriots, guys. Tell me, Dave, how you're going to approach the Patriots' wide receivers. I think this game, Amendola's coming back at the perfect time because I think the way that the Patriots work around this Texans defense

is to not run into the teeth of it, rather attack with short passes. Lots of that horizontal passing game from the inside out that works great for Amendola. Hogan can work in the slot. Cooks can too and work those kinds of routes. And the secondary for Houston, I want to check and see what the status is of all three of their cornerbacks. If they're banged up, I think the Patriots will try and take advantage. And I think this is a game where Tom Brady throws a bunch of passes and does what he does.

And Amendola has a game maybe similar to what he had in week one before he got hurt. I'll tell you what. I'll give you every relevant player on the Patriots, and you tell me real quick what they are. Tom Brady. He's a quarterback. Ah, all right. Thank you. I always get that confused. He's an elite must-start option. He is an unbelievable fitness guru. Mike Gillisley.

Must-start option. I agree, just because if the Patriots—I think there's a decent chance the Patriots build a lead with the pass and then crush them with the run, and that would be where Gillislee comes in. PPR, Gillislee or Abdullah? Abdullah. I think Abdullah might be a little more fun in that format. Gillislee or Coleman? Tevin, Coleman.

Gillislee. Yeah. So, James White I like him I think he's a very good and sneaky PPR play I don't think anybody would consider him sneaky At this point given that he catches And typically catches the ball

He's a good sleeper though yes And Rex Burkhead I don't know if he plays Chris Hogan He's banged up If Amendola's He may not play. Chris Hogan. He's banged up. If Amendola's back, you have to downgrade Hogan. Agreed.

Danny Amendola. I think he's a borderline number three receiver in either league. The fact would be is how healthy is he because not only did he have the concussion, he also had a knee injury. So he could – I don't think he'll have the same upside that he had in week one, but he certainly could be in the 8 fantasy point range in standard leagues and 12 to 14 in PPR. Amendola or Leonard Fournette, PPR? You could talk me into Amendola.

Yeah, I don't like Fournette, but I would still start him based on the touchdown potential. And Brandon Cooks? Amendola could catch six passes, and that's equal to a touchdown. He could. He could also only play sparingly and not be catch six passes And that's equal to a touchdown He could He could also Only play sparingly And not be involved

I guess that's fair Brandon Cooks Still got to start him Lots of potential Oh yeah This is going to be his breakout game I think you're going to get A lot of redemption games

From the receivers this week I think AJ Green has won I think Cooks has won Do you think Sammy Watkins can do it? Yes Sammy Watkins would be a great, great redemption game for him. Terrell Pryor. So Cooks, I think you'll see big targets, big home game. Look, he was two catches away from a huge week one game.

So this will be a good homecoming for him. Rob Gronkowski, yes, number one tight end. Start or sit DeAndre Hopkins? Start. PPR, definitely for him. Rob Gronkowski, yes. Number one tight end. Start or sit DeAndre Hopkins? Start. PPR, definitely start him. Non-PPR, probably starting him anyway. Lamar Miller or Leonard Fournette? Lamar Miller or Leonard Fournette?

I'll take Lamar Miller. I only like Miller and PPR. Total yardage will be there for him. Oh, boy. Okay. I just fear that they're just going to get crushed. Me too. Plus the whole Deontay Foreman factor.

This is not a Foreman game. I agree. Look, I'm not starting him. It's a Miller game, but he's going to have to get a lot of catches. Okay. And don't start Houston's DST. New England's DST, on the other hand, 7th for Jamie, 5th for Dave, 13th for Heath. And Miami is at the Jets. The rest of these gamesirteenth for Heath. And Miami is at the Jets.

The rest of these games we can probably fly through here. Miami at the Jets. Jay Cutler is interesting. And you guys, Cutler over Simeon? I forget. I would. Yep. All right.

Cutler's a top 12 guy. The Jets are pathetic. We know that. Jay Ajayi is our number one running back. The one thing, though, is if Devontae Parker does not play, then you have to downgrade Cutler. If Devontae Parker does play, I mean, Landry and Parker, we're starting, right? I think you have to.

I would start Landry for sure in PPR. He's still number three in standard leagues. Really? Okay. Would you start Martavis Bryant or Devontae Parker? Bryant. Parker. Okay.

But you guys like both those. You know know Martavis Bryant is 23rd for Jamie He's 14th for Dave We talked about him on yesterday's show Don't go with Julius Thomas That's too much of a gamble Any Jets players that you want to start this week No Do you want to start him

Absolutely Or is it that you kind of have to start him? No, I would start him. Targets have been there for him. Production has been there for him. So seven-catch game in week one, that's great for PPR. Two-touchdown game in week two, that's good for everybody. Chasing points.

Dolphin secondary, not very good. Jermaine Kirsten's solid. Giants and Eagles. Who's your favorite running back in this game? Darren Sproles. Darren Sproles, for sure. Followed by, potentially, Orlin Starqua, but I'm not starting.

I don't want to start anybody who runs the ball in this game. I would take Vereen second. The Eagles secondary is really, really banged up. Does that matter for anybody other than Odell Beckham? I'm so flummoxed by the Giants and their offensive line and how bad it's playing.

And the Eagles are going to come for Eli Manning for sure. That pass rush is going to be bearing down. It's going to be interesting to see how they tweak things with some hopefully more max protection stuff and just trying to help get this thing fixed because they're not going to switch guys around, unfortunately. They're 0-2, and they better bring their A game. I think you'll see it.

I just don't know how good that is. They suck at Lincoln Financial every single year. Yeah. So Beckham's the only giant that you're starting. But remember, Orleans-Darkwood could start getting more work if you're looking for a more long-term play. Alshon Jeffrey, if we're concerned a little bit about Murray Cooper, how concerned are we about Alshon Jeffrey in this very tough matchup?

Is Janoris Jenkins going to play? Well, let's say he is. If he's not, then you start Jeffrey. But if he plays, if Jenkins plays, do you start Alshon Jeffrey? Yeah, then it really changes how the Giants' defense works. Because if he's on the field, that allows Steve Spagnuolo to take more liberties with the Blitz. Try and get some turnovers off of pressure on Carson Wentz. Do you star Jeffrey, though, if Janoris Jenkins plays?

No. I think he's a borderline starter without Jenkins. Would you start Jermaine Curse over Alshon Jeffrey if Janoris plays? No. I might. You'd stick with – oh, okay. So that gives you an idea of how it would be like. I'd think about it.

All right. I'd definitely think about it. Nelson Aguilar outside the top 40 right now, but Zach Ertz is a great start. And the Eagles DST, they're both fairly similar. Jamie likes the Eagles better. Dave likes the Giants DST better. Pittsburgh is at Chicago. We have no worries about Roethlisberger on the road

Or Le'Veon or Antonio Brown Heath and I talked about Martavis Bryant yesterday So please tune into that As far as the Bears go It's really just like Jordan Howard and Tariq Cohen What are you going to do with these guys? Tell me

I'm starting Cohen over Howard I don't like the matchup for Howard at all. The fact that he's going to lose touches and targets to Cohen, which is obvious at this point, makes him a risky deal. I like Cohen better, especially in PPR. Yep. Dude's had eight

catches each of the first two games. Howard's been so good against tough matchups, though. Last year, he had two games of 135 or more yards against Minnesota. Is it the injury? Yeah, it's everything. It's opportunity. Are either of these guys good starts or are you just reluctantly starting to read

Cohen? I think you're starting Cohen in PPR at this point. Standard, he's risky with Howard Beck. Cohen or Mixon, Jamie, since you're the Mixon guy in PPR? I'll take Mixon. I will too. Really? Yeah, absolutely.

In the non-PPR? No, PPR. PPR I would take Cohen. Okay, PPR we're taking Cohen. All right. Cohen or Christian McCaffrey in PPR? McCaffrey. Yeah.

If Howard was out, it would be Cohen. All right, Cohen or Amir Abdullah? Cohen. All right, Cohen or Amir Abdullah? Cohen. Abdullah. And Pittsburgh Fiesty is top five. Yeah, I'll take Abdullah both. All right, Jamie really likes Abdullah this week. It's his son, so.

He's got to like Amir Abdullah. He's got to like him. Got to support him. Okay, that's it for the longest show we've ever done. Still haven't quite passed it. Ever? The sixth? No, I think we've done some mock drafts that

have been longer than this, but, you know, I'm pathetic. I gotta do better. So I'm gonna work on that. We all have room for improvement.

Well, it was good content. I just, I hope everybody had a lot of time on their hands. Thank you for listening. We got a mailbag

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