Fantasy Football Today - 09/25: Trade Talk, PHI-GB and Fantasy Jeopardy! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 25, 2019

Need to buy low or sell high? We've got options at each position. First we have a potentially troubling Aaron Rodgers stat (1:50) and a FAAB breakdown for Wayne Gallman (6:15). Someone spent $84 on hi...m! Then we've got two Buy Low guys at each position (10:00). Carson Wentz, Le'Veon Vell, Robert Woods and more ... News and notes (22:30)! Is it time to drop Cam Newton? And how about two Sell High candidates at each position (28:00)? See what you can get for Russell Wilson, Mark Ingram and Will Dissly ... We preview PHI-GB (39:00), read your iTunes questions (49:00) and play some Fantasy Jeopardy (55:00)! Who will be the king of Fantasy Football trivia today??? ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Big Wednesday show for you. A lot of trade talk today. How about two buy lows and two sell highs at every single position? We, of course, are going to be doing some fantasy regulating later in the show, and we will preview the Eagles and the Packers. This really good Packers defense so far. They've allowed the second fewest points in football.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Only the Patriots have allowed fewer. How will the Eagles do in this game? We also got to talk about some Wayne Gallman fab alert. It is Wednesday, so of course that means... The Heath is on! What's up, Heath? Thank you, Adam, for that nice introduction. It's good to talk to you. I haven't talked to you since Sunday night when we had such a nice conversation.
Starting point is 00:02:02 We had a... yeah, you know, we had an argument about Daniel Jones on that show. I imagine today we'll be arguing about Wayne Gallman. Also, it's Wednesday, so... Ben Gretsch is on. What's up, Ben? There it is. Benny and the Jets. Benny and the Gretsch.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Benny and the Gretsch. That's right. I got a little bit of... I got some Jets. Benny and the Gretsch. Benny and the Gretsch. That's right. I got a little bit of – I got some Jets to talk about when we do our buy lows. Oh, good. That's perfect. Yeah, you do. Two Jets. That's a lot of Jets.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Okay. Did you know that Aaron Rodgers, guys, as I was previewing this game, Aaron Rodgers is on pace for 496 pass attempts? That would be his lowest in a full season. It would be 101 fewer than last season. They have run the 10th fewest plays in the NFL. And I notice we don't all have him as like a top five quarterback. Nobody has him as a top five quarterback this week,
Starting point is 00:02:58 Dave, Jamie, and Heath doing the rankings. Yeah, so you could sit there and do the narrative. Hey, they just had three tough matchups. Things are going to get better, they're going to go off this week. But looking at the pass attempts, 31 per game, that's nothing. How big of a concern is that for you, Heath? It's partially a concern, and it's partially a concern
Starting point is 00:03:17 because Aaron Rodgers really over the last two years, two seasons that he's actually played football, has not been the type of quarterback that would be wildly successful with low pass attempts. He hasn't been as good as Russell Wilson has been on a per-attempt basis. You look at it, I mean, even going back to 2015, before 2015, he was very consistently
Starting point is 00:03:43 over eight yards per pass attempt. Since 2015, that's 2,100 pass attempts. He's averaged 7.1 yards per attempt. Now, a couple of those years were salvaged by a very high touchdown rate. But, yeah, the volumes of concern. This is a prove-it week for me for Aaron Rodgers as a fantasy quarterback. I mean, the Packers are doing great. Everything's working with the new offensive system.
Starting point is 00:04:07 But if Rodgers is not a top five guy this week against an Eagles defense that is beat up and not very good in the first place against the pass, I'm going to have serious concerns. And I wouldn't be surprised if people start dropping him for weekly streamers. Oh, dropping him. Wow. How about that? Ben, give me your quick thought on Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I think as we get into the buy lows and sell highs,
Starting point is 00:04:31 one thing that we'll have to keep in mind and probably be discussing a lot is that we've only seen three games. And so the way those games have played out matters. I mean, you can look at season stats and you can pace out the season, but all it takes is one kind of wonky game and in rogers case he's played against three good past defenses they've won all three games they haven't
Starting point is 00:04:51 really needed to throw in any kind of comeback mode yet they will they're not going to go 16 and now uh so yeah i mean i agree almost entirely with what he said but i also think his past attempts are down in in large part because they had a close, low scoring win against the Bears and a close win against the Vikings and a close win against the Broncos that didn't really necessitate him throwing in the second half. Yeah, I just was surprised to see Aaron Rodgers seventh for Jamie, 11th for Dave and 12th for Heath. And there are a lot of guys you could start over him this week. And we'll talk about this game later. But it's just like if you can't start Aaron Rodgers at home against the Eagles, how comfortable are you going to be?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah, go ahead. We all have him in the top 12. No one's saying you can't start him. But you drafted him as a top five quarterback. So it's just, I got to get him. That looks like a mistake right now. Right now it does, but we knew the schedule was brutal. I mean, if every team in the NFL had to play the Bears, Vikings, and Broncos,
Starting point is 00:05:45 their quarterbacks would be struggling almost in every case. So, well, you know, we'll see what happens. I would be interested. I would be interested. Like, I'm trying to think about it now, and I'm not going to come up with the answer on the fly, but maybe you guys will. How have the other quarterbacks done against the bears compared to aaron rogers
Starting point is 00:06:07 200 yards and one touchdown or against the vikings compared to his 209 yards and two touchdowns well i can tell you about the vikings lions well i can tell you about the vikings it wasn't the lions it was the broncos i mean that's not an apples no but that's not an apples apples comparison anyway because the vikings lost that game and they've dominated both weeks one and three so i mean you can you can share those stats but it's it's not a i don't think that's a very good comparison with the vikings the vikings gave up garbage time production to matt ryan who was having a terrible game and then he threw two late touchdown passes and the same exact thing happened with with derrick carr who threw had garbage time production but he only finished with like 17 fantasy points or something like that. And then the other teams,
Starting point is 00:06:45 off the top of my head, the Bears. I mean, Derek Carr was a lot better against the Broncos than Rodgers was, right? In terms of fantasy points, yeah, maybe. Alright, look, we'll talk about that a little bit later. Let's do a fab alert. Wayne Gallman went for $84. He went for
Starting point is 00:07:02 $84 out of $100 in our 14-team podcast league and $13 out of $100 in our 10-team podcast league. So a huge difference there. I'm going to throw it to Ben. Ben, if you were going to... I didn't have you on the Waiver Wire show yesterday. So how much out of $100 do you think Wayne Gallman should have been worth yesterday? I mean, it totally depends on your situation. If you're in a situation where you need a starting running back, you're not going to get a much better situation than this. They don't even have another running back on the roster.
Starting point is 00:07:39 They have Elijah Penny was their third back, and he switched over to fullback in the preseason. Gallman played every snap after Saquon Barkley left they're gonna bring someone in uh they've worked out a few kind of uninspiring names but we should expect that gallman's gonna play a pretty huge workload over the next several weeks so if you need a running back i think you got to go out there and get him now 84 yeah that's that's a that's a big number that's too much uh but i do think we over we overreact a little bit to high bids early in the season because part of it is like this is the time of the year when everyone has money and you if you need a guy you have to outbid people later in the year each dollar is is essentially less valuable because there's fewer people that
Starting point is 00:08:22 are actually still bidding because there's so many teams that are out of it and there's there's fewer options really i mean oh the other thing was gonna say is everyone has less in their budget anyway uh you can get guys for pretty cheap later in the year i i think saving all your budget is typically a kind of a bad move but yeah 84 is too much i would probably be in the like 40 range if you really need him uh i think i put a bid out in a league where i needed him one of our one of our cbs leagues that was in the low 30s but i've already spent i think that's that 2qb league where i where i bid like 50 on gardner minshu back in the day back after week one so i don't have a ton left but um i bid almost all of what i had left on Gallman and I didn't get him.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And I thought he I didn't think I would get him, frankly. And but then in another league where I didn't need a running back and I had pretty good options, I didn't even put a bid on him because I didn't I didn't necessarily need to get him. I don't think he's an amazing option. It just really depends on whether you need him or not. He's basically like a low, low end RB to probably just based on volume. He's kind of an uninspiring option. He's not someone that I really want, but if you need a back,
Starting point is 00:09:28 especially if you're 0-3 or 1-2, yeah, you can bid this much if you have to. Okay, and I think that's helpful for people because Wayne Gallman, some people haven't run their fab yet. So 84 out of 100, you're pretty much leaving yourself with no wiggle room and getting a low-end RB2 perhaps
Starting point is 00:09:43 who's not even, it's not like Barkley's out for the season, so that's too much, but 40, something like that, with no wiggle room and getting a low-end RB2 perhaps. It's not like Barkley's out for the season, so that's too much. But 40, something like that, that's not necessarily too much depending on your situation. We have a Facebook giveaway. We are asking you who you're basically holding a grudge against, who you won't draft because you're holding a grudge against based on previous seasons. Le'Veon Bell is a great example of that.
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Starting point is 00:10:29 You just download the HQ app on your Roku, on your Apple TV, your Amazon Fire, whatever, on your connected device. Download the CBS Sports HQ app and you can watch Fantasy Football Today. All right, buy low, sell high. Let's start with a buy low. I asked you guys for one at each position. Ben, you can start with the buy lows at quarterback. Who's your quarterback? It's Jared Goff, and it's ultimately a pretty similar case to what I just made with Aaron
Starting point is 00:10:55 Rogers. He's always had a little bit of a home road split. He's already played two games on the road. And then his home game against New Orleans, Drew Brees got injured. He hasn't really had to throw yet. They're 3-0. The offensive line is a little bit of an issue, and I do have some small concerns, but I've seen him dropped in some leagues. He's a cheap quarterback you can acquire if you need to. I still think he has plenty of upside. And he has a really good schedule coming up. So Tampa Bay, they got to turn it around this week, Jared Goff. All right, Heath, how about you? Who's your buy low quarterback?
Starting point is 00:11:27 Not sure I love Carson Wentz on a short week at Green Bay without his full complement of wide receivers. But after this week, Wentz is someone I'll be looking to buy low on. He really struggled when everybody was out. He was okay last week. Week two was pretty bad. I think the perception on him has dropped a little bit. I still expect he's going to be a top
Starting point is 00:11:46 five quarterback over the rest of the year. He's on pace for a career high in pass attempts. 629 pass attempts. But how do you feel about that? That's the thing. I don't know if he actually is. Is that only because he's on pace to play 16 games?
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yeah. But I think I looked it up. I don't think he's ever thrown this much per game. yeah but i don't think no but i think i looked it up i don't think he's ever thrown this much per game i wouldn't have made that silly of mistake i don't think i would have anyway but but well what do you think about this for whence green bay this week the jets next week should be good but then you've got at minnesota at dallas at buffalo chicago a buy and then the patriots so that's min, who's 13th against quarterbacks, but I don't buy it. They're better than that.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Dallas is sixth. Buffalo's fifth. Chicago is eighth, and I think they might be better than that. A bye, they're the best. And then the Patriots, they're first right now. Are you scared of the Wentz schedule? I don't factor in schedule quite as much as I think you or Dave or Jamie do, and I really think there are generally three, maybe four matchups in each direction that matter each year.
Starting point is 00:12:50 The Bears are definitely one of those matchups. It's possible a couple of those other teams are as well. I don't really believe the Cowboys are. So, no, that doesn't scare me too much. All right. Cowboys have played soft offenses. Just like you said, you might not buy Minnesota's 13th ranking. You shouldn't buy Dallas' 6th. It's too high all right running back by lows oh it's one of the ben gretchen's jets what do you got ben yeah i got levy on bell uh you know i've already made
Starting point is 00:13:17 cases for some of the cheaper guys like mile sanders and royce freeman in the last couple weeks i'm still looking at those guys but bell is a guy who has played 100 of the snaps out of in two of the three weeks to start the season i was definitely wrong on him in the last couple weeks. I'm still looking at those guys, but Bell is a guy who has played 100% of the snaps in two of the three weeks to start the season. I was definitely wrong on him in the preseason, thinking he might rotate a little bit more. Huge receiving role. The biggest thing that's going against him right now is the Jets' offense has been really bad, but they should get Sam Darnold back in week five.
Starting point is 00:13:38 You can buy him now, although he's going into a buy, especially if the Le'Veon Bell owner is 1-2 or 0-3. You can make a little bit of a lowball offer and try to acquire him right now. And you should expect the Jets to be better once Sam Darnold's back. They had a good preseason. I still think they have upside. I think he has, what, 20 catches in three games for Le'Veon Bell?
Starting point is 00:13:57 That's terrific. And, yeah, certainly in PPR. So, good time. Going into a buy week, a desperate owner, an 0-3 or a 1-2 Le'Veon Bell owner. You know, rip that guy or that girl off. Heath, you know, I was... I said this on the Friday show. I was so upset that Leonard Fournette
Starting point is 00:14:17 had that big, long, like 69-yard run because that would have made him a much better buy low. But you still have leonard fournette who's on pace for 75 catches by the way as a by low yeah it would have been much easier to buy low on him without that run or maybe a little bit easier listen he's still just the 17th running back in ppr leagues despite having 14 catches already this season i love the way they're using him i'm not concerned about what gardner minshu is going to do this jacksonville offense they're going to be just fine.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Another guy who may not have a great week this week. It might be better to buy low after Denver, though. I'm not 100% sold on the Denver defense yet either. So I expect still Fournette top 10 running back with top five upside. Would you rather have Fournette or Gurley? Fournette by a fairly good margin ben yeah i'm i'd take four night too i'm worried about girly would you rather have marlin mack or four net four net definitely four net in ppr probably four net in both yeah all right let's go to
Starting point is 00:15:19 the wide receivers ben a packer who we buy low on yeah davante adams i mean i think everyone's going to be talking about him this week but he's had three really tough matchups to start the season he actually performed pretty well against xavier roads in minnesota in week two back in week one he was going up against the bears they were triple teaming him at times there was one time the camera caught him like pointing at the three defenders that were on him last week he got a lot of chris harris who's uh just an absolute elite cornerback so you don't usually see a wide receiver have to face such difficult matchups for the first three games of the season it might be the case that the davante adams owner in your league is
Starting point is 00:15:56 very aware of that but if he's not he's a guy that you should absolutely be buying low on especially because not a lot of other packers receivers have stepped up jimmy graham's banged up geronimo allison has had some drops issues. Marcus Valdez-Scantlin's been okay. But I think when Adams gets in some better matchups starting this week against Philadelphia, that Rodgers is going to start to just completely pepper him like we saw him do last year in the last couple seasons. And I have some confirmation bias on this one just because my main concern for Adams coming into this year
Starting point is 00:16:26 was that he would not see the enormous target share that he did last year because they had a new offensive system. I anticipated Matt LaFleur would want to spread the ball around more than what the Packers did. And so, listen, I don't disagree with buying low on Adams based on what he has done so far this season. But I also didn't have him ranked as a top five wide receiver coming into the year. So I'm going to be careful with how I'm buying low on him. On separate shows, Sunday and Monday, I said that I would take Adams over Evans rest of season.
Starting point is 00:16:59 But I then said on Monday that I would not take Adams over Keenan Allen rest of season. So I think Keenan Allen with his target share and his production, I think it's fine to move ahead of Devontae Adams. Do you guys agree with that take? How would you rank those three wide receivers? I would take Adams over both, I think. And I had concerns coming in, too,
Starting point is 00:17:22 but I don't think we should be overreacting. I'm with Heath. I didn't have him in my top five i think i had a wide receiver six uh but mostly that was because that top tier was really elite coming into the season i i have not dropped adams down substantially uh because of what's happened in the first three weeks i expected him to have a slow start so it's important to not overreact when you have that expectation i actually like i said thought he was impressive to have in a 100-yard game against Minnesota. So, yeah, I would have him over Keenan Allen and Mike Evans.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Yeah, I would definitely take Allen over Adams in PPR for sure. Evans is really, really tough for me because I'm not sure. That was awesome what he just did. But how are we going to feel if Tampa Bay goes to face the Rams and the Rams' defense continues to be as good as it's been and just kind of shuts them down? How are we going to feel about Evans having one good game out of his first four? I'm a little bit iffy on him, so I'll take Adams over Evans still,
Starting point is 00:18:15 but I'll take Keenan over Adams. Who is your buy low wide receiver, Heath? It's Robert Woods, and I think if Ben actually put in the notes that if you didn't want him to talk about Adams, he would talk about Robert Woods. Even with the increased targets for Cooper Cup, I'm not sure it even matters to Robert Woods. That mostly hasn't come out of Woods' target share. And we saw last year three game stretches where one receiver would dominate targets
Starting point is 00:18:38 and then the next week it would be someone different. But what has happened is Cooper Cup has seen his average depth of target shrink because he is taking a lot of the targets that were going to the running backs. They threw the ball 18% of the time to their running backs last year, even more than that in 2017. So far this season, below 10% of their targets have gone to the running backs. If that continues to be the case, Cooper Cup can be a top five wide, and Robert Woods and Brandon Cooks can still be top 15. Woods lost a touchdown to a penalty in week two, as well as two more receptions to penalties in week two.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Some of his stats are a little banged up just because of losing some plays to penalties. So I totally agree. Woods was better last year with Cupp on the field than after Cupp got injured. That's just another note. I mean, I think he'll be fine. All right, and then my buy low wide receiver I mentioned on Monday's show, Odell Beckham, he's on pace for 160 targets. As long as he's getting targets, he can overcome mediocre quarterback play
Starting point is 00:19:34 and a bad offensive line. He has proven that over and over again. So you have to pay up for Beckham, but I still think he's really awesome. Tight ends, Ben. Wow, you're just all over it with the jets yeah another jet i mean it's hard to find any tight end that you'd call a buy low because it's hard to find uh any tight end you call by uh a buy low because anyone who's you know a lot of these guys that are not producing are are not guys that i necessarily want to be buying into, but Chris Herndon,
Starting point is 00:20:07 look, Adam Gase is doing the thing he did in Miami where he's playing all of his skill position players over 90% of the snaps. Ryan Griffin, their current tight end, has been playing over 90% of the snaps every game. So has Robbie Anderson. So has Jameson Crowder. So has Le'Veon Bell. And Quincy Anunua did in week one before he went on IR.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I fully expect when Chris Herndon comes back, he's going to be a complete full-time player, and there's just not enough good tight ends he's going to be running plenty of routes uh and i think the offense will will have to be better with sam darnold so he's a guy that i'm really keep my eye on because of the way that griffin's been used he might not get used 90 of the snaps the first game he's back i fully expect in the second half that he's going to be playing so many snaps that he could be like the second half. Not necessarily Mark Andrews or Darren Waller, but the second half tight end out of nowhere guy who's very productive for
Starting point is 00:20:54 you. All right. I'll go with George Kittle. He still has a 25% target share in the San Francisco offense. That's just been weird. They've gotten off to a three and oh start and haven't thrown the ball very much. He's already seen seven targets in the red zone,
Starting point is 00:21:10 had at least two touchdowns called back because of penalty. If anybody is even slightly concerned about Kittle, I still expect he's going to be a top three tight end the rest of the season. I would very happily go trade Darren Waller, Mark Andrews, and something else for Kittle. Kittle's yards per catch is down from 15.6 to 9.7. Remember he had a lot of yards after the catch last year?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Where do you think it will normalize to, like 12-ish? 12, yeah. Yeah. All right. I think it's like Kelsey's usually right around 12, 12.5. That's a good number. All right. And my concern for Kittle was like,
Starting point is 00:21:48 not recent concern, not preseason concern, because I like Kittle, was are they just throwing the ball to too many guys? But as Heath mentioned, he is still getting 25% of the target share. So that's a really good sign. And yeah, good things ahead for Kittle. I just made my first FanDuel lineup of the week.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Not an easy week for running backs, in my opinion. A lot of guys have tough matchups. You obviously don't have Saquon Barkley or Le'Veon Bell this week. Dalvin Cook has the Bears. Todd Gurley, the Bucs have actually been pretty good against the run, so I don't know if I want to go with him. But I do think Devontae Freeman is a must play. But really, what's so fun about
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Starting point is 00:23:12 Dallas Goddard and Alshon Jeffrey are expected to play. T.Y. Hilton does not know if he will play. Saquon Barkley is getting a second opinion on his ankle, but we're going to stick to the four to eight week timetable for now. C.J. Anderson worked out for Houston. What do you make of that, Ben? With Duke Johnson's role being phased out and they're looking at a running back here, what do you make of that for Houston?
Starting point is 00:23:40 Johnson's role has basically already been phased out. He's now become the same guy he was in Cleveland. It's a very kind of a bummer development, I would say. Yeah, I mean, I think if they add Anderson, it puts Hyde on watch. They don't think that Hyde's the guy for the early down work. But then I think Anderson would be, it would resurrect his value quite a bit because he would potentially get all those early down plays. But Johnson is, it's about another bad note for johnson and we're already
Starting point is 00:24:09 seeing plenty of bad ones he's borderline droppable at this point does it i mean look i don't think anyone here loves cj anderson but he doesn't make sense to stash cj anderson thinking he might end up somewhere maybe they're just all it needs is one more running back injury and somebody could sign cj anderson there's too many things yeah you gotta be in a really deep league to be playing that type of three-dimensional chess all right a lot of uninspiring running backs worked out for the giants yesterday so that's why i think wayne gallman seems to have some job security david ajoku's not going to have wrist surgery but he's out at least seven more games washington expects jordan reed to return this season. Cam Newton,
Starting point is 00:24:46 meanwhile, has a Lisfranc injury. That's according to The Athletic. How droppable, Heath, is Cam Newton? Pretty droppable, really. It seems like the most likely return would be week eight at the earliest now. I'd put him at a six on the dropometer.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Thank you. Terry McLaurin is the first player in NFL history to record five receptions and catch a touchdown in each of his first three games. So that's cool. The Steelers acquired tight end Nick Vanette from Seattle for a 2020 fifth round pick as Vance McDonald has a shoulder strain
Starting point is 00:25:23 and McDonald's 76% owned. But Ben, I, this didn't make any sense to me because there was a report that it wasn't so serious. You're going to give up a fifth round pick. If Vance McDonald doesn't have a serious injury,
Starting point is 00:25:33 that's kind of confusing. And then how much does this help? Will Disley? Yeah, I, I don't really understand it from Pittsburgh side. I've actually seen people go out and pick up Nick Vanette. Now don't do that. He's not going to,'ve actually seen people go out and pick up Nick Vanette now.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Don't do that. He's not going to do much at all. It's huge for Will Disley, though. They've been splitting the routes almost right down the middle between Disley and Vanette. Those are the only two tight ends on the roster. Disley's obviously been way more productive, but his route share has been right around like 50%. It's going to jump up. They're going to activate Jacob Hollister off the practice squad and he'll run some routes as well. But you'd expect Disley, if he was running right around 50%, I don't have the exact number,
Starting point is 00:26:16 but I was looking at game by game last week, just yesterday. And it's essentially right around 50% in each game. If he jumps from around that 50% range to about 75% of routes per dropback, that's going to be huge for him with how productive he's already been. So he's definitely a good add. I'm pretty mad that you got him in one of our leagues for $18 this week. I had $16 on him in a league where I had Vance McDonald. Yeah, I had Vernon Davis at tight end, so I needed Will Disley, and I got him for $18 out of $100, and that was our two-quarterback league.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Any updates, or I guess, how many of these guys, Heath, do you expect to play this week as of right now? Devin Singletary, LaShawn McCoy, and Damian Williams, Rashad Penny, and Ido Smith. The only one we're currently projecting to play is LaShawn McCoy. And Darryl Williams, I went back and I looked at the game log. Darryl Williams had 14 touches, over 100 yards, nine carries for 62 yards, five for 47.
Starting point is 00:27:09 But after LeSean McCoy caught a touchdown late in the third quarter, about two minutes left in the third quarter, at that point it was 30-13. That was his last play. Baltimore scored on the next possession, made it 30-19. Then Darryl Williams had five carries for 49 yards and one catch for 16 yards. So through three quarters, he had four carries for 13 yards, but he did have four catches. I guess I just wanted to point that out. He only had four touches in the first half. Most of Darrell Williams' carries came after LeSean McCoy was
Starting point is 00:27:41 removed from the game. So I guess we can talk about that as we get later on into the week, but just thought I'd put that in perspective. And final note, Heath said on Twitter yesterday that he wants to punch me in the face. So I just thought that was a little bead, but you said, I want to punch you in the face. And I,
Starting point is 00:27:58 you know, I hope you'd ever get that opportunity. That feeling is returning. Right now. What I do. you never get that opportunity that feeling is returning right now what i do bringing like i just thought about what it is that you were talking about then we're not going to talk about it we're not going to talk about it heath is having a little problem because his his kansas jayhawks are huge cheaters they're just huge cheaters and you can't just go punching people with the face because you're getting called out for wait. Wait, who are the cheaters? Kansas Jayhawks.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Bill Self is a huge cheater. Like, what else can you say? Dude cheats. Let's sell high. Sell high to the Jayhawks because they're going out. Some tough times are ahead. Quarterback, Heath, who's your sell high? It's touchdown Tom.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Tom Brady, currently the number five quarterback in fantasy. And there may be some tough times ahead, starting with this week against the Buffalo Bills. We know what generally happens to this Patriots offense when the weather gets cold and what they start doing running the football. I think that he could still be a low-end starter most weeks, maybe not this week. But I don't expect him to be a difference maker at quarterback,
Starting point is 00:29:08 and so if one of these QB desperate teams still does, I would absolutely be looking to sell him. Would you trade him for Goff? Oh, yeah. All right. Ben, who's your sell high? Yeah, another position that I thought was really tough to pick one because there's just not a lot of
Starting point is 00:29:25 quarterbacks that are doing great that that i want to sell russell wilson had a monster game last week i'll say him if you can get a good return obviously it's price dependent but through 50 passes through three uh through three and a half quarters he had only thrown uh 13 passes and that's so consistent with everything the seahawks do and try to do even though they were way behind they're being so very slow paced late third quarter he gets eight uh pass attempts on their last drive of the third quarter and then in the fourth quarter he throws 29 times at the end of the third they're down 27 to 7 they've run 21 uh rush attempts and they've thrown 21 times he throws 29 passes in the fourth for over 200 yards,
Starting point is 00:30:06 rushes for two touchdowns in the fourth, throws for a touchdown in the fourth. He's going to have more games like this because Seattle's frankly not that great where he has to throw late, but it's just how conservative this offense is. The fact that he's coming off a game where he threw 50 times for 400 yards, two touchdowns and ran for more than 50 yards and two more
Starting point is 00:30:22 on the ground, I think makes him a sell high at that point. Would you sell him? Would you rather have Russell Wilson or Lamar Jackson? Jackson. Heath, how about you? Yep.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Still Jackson. Although I wouldn't be selling Wilson yet. Again, kind of the reverse of what I said about Carson Wentz. Let's let's sell them after he plays the Arizona Cardinals. Sure. Yeah. I was thinking,
Starting point is 00:30:45 yeah, that's a good point. That's this week, obviously. Okay, Heath, running back to sell. Phillip Lindsey just scored two touchdowns, and people may think that what he did in 2018 is coming back with that 5.4 yards per carry. I do not. I still expect this to be a timeshare that's pretty close
Starting point is 00:31:02 to 50-50. I wouldn't be surprised if Royce Freeman eventually takes over a larger share of the workload and Lindsay handles more of the third down stuff. So if you can get a top 20 running back for him, I'm selling and Ben. Yeah, I put Mark Ingram down. It's a lot of that's just touchdowns. I mean, I've been wrong on him so far. I told you guys not to draft him in the preseason, but he does only have six catches through three games, which was a big concern coming from the Saints who throw to the running back a ton to a team of the scrambling quarterback. And scrambling quarterbacks typically scramble rather than check down to the running back. Six catches through three games is not going to get it done in PPR leagues.
Starting point is 00:31:38 In non-PPR, obviously, it's less of a concern. I also don't think he's going to be able to rush for as much efficiency throughout the year as he has so far. And then five touchdowns through three games. I don't think he's going to score 20 touchdowns. So he's just a sell high based on current rushing production and the lack of receiving role. Yeah, but he's Derek Henry, you know, every time. It's the same argument, right? Except I think I like Ingram. I think I like Ingram better than Henry because I like the Ravens offense better than the Titans offense. And so if you're hoping just for touchdowns, you know, that's kind of where I'd lean. How would you guys, what do you guys think? Yeah, it goes back to the high value touches I've talked about a ton.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And you're right. Both those guys are the trap backs. They get too many low value touches compared to their overall touch count. They're still going to have splash weeks. I think for both of those guys, they've had a good three week stretch and they're going to be worse the rest of the season. So I, they're still going to have splash weeks. I think for both of those guys, they've had a good three-week stretch, and they're going to be worse the rest of the season. So I think they're both sell-highs.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Who would you rather have, Henry or Ingram? Ingram, for the reasons you said, I think I would agree. Their offense is better. Wide receivers. Yeah, I think Ingram. Oh, sorry, Heath. Your opinion matters. Don't punch me in the face.
Starting point is 00:32:43 No, apparently it doesn't. Who are you selling high on, Heath. Your opinion matters. Don't punch me in the face. No, apparently it doesn't. Who are you selling high on, Heath? Demarcus Robinson or me, Cole Hardman. I will sell high on either one of the Chiefs wide receivers that are scoring a touchdown every four targets. I just don't. I fully expect that as long as Sammy Watkins is getting as many targets as Robinson and Hardman combined, he's eventually going to be the best option,
Starting point is 00:33:07 and then Tyreek Hill is going to come back, and Travis Kelsey is going to score touchdowns. And if I could get a starter of some sort for Robinson or Hardman at any position, I would do it. Give me one guy that you think you would try to sell to Marcus Robinson for. I can't imagine you're going to get too much for him. People know he has a shelf life. But would you take
Starting point is 00:33:25 Alshon Jeffrey? Would you take him for Hardman? For Robinson or Hardman? Because I think I would. I would. I'm not much of an Alshon guy, but yeah, I probably would. I know. That's why I
Starting point is 00:33:41 asked you. Can I aim for somebody like John Brown instead? Yeah, sure. If you want. Of course, you know, Halshaw might be better than him. But how about Ben? Who's your sell high? Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:33:55 It's the guy who has the second most red zone targets in the NFL and the second most targets inside the 10-yard line in the NFL, T.Y. Hilton. Right. And we don't know if he's going to play. His value is going to be a little bit lower just because of that injury. But four touchdowns in three games and not necessarily getting the deep targets. Indianapolis is running a lot more conservative offense. I think he's a pretty obvious sell high.
Starting point is 00:34:20 The other guy you guys were talking really high on earlier is Keenan Allen that I almost wrote down. Hunter Henry's been out. Mikes has been banged up melvin gordon's eventually going to come back which i think will make them run a little bit more he's a guy who can definitely split uh string together a lot of targets but he's a guy that if you get a really good return on he's not going to keep up what he's doing right now it's just way too high so he's another guy i would throw in here yeah but what like okay if i could get deandre hopkins for him and hopkins has had a couple of bad games right i think adams is the guy you aim for i don't think i would take adams yeah over alan though i think i'd take alan see i would i would i think i think adams is uh i think alan is uh is really good i've always been
Starting point is 00:34:59 a huge fan of him uh but i do think he's just benefited so far from them having so many injuries and so many people out of the lineup, including Melvin Gordon, who's not injured, who's just holding out. But I do think that later in the year, he's going to have a really hard time having 17 target games when they're back at full strength. Yeah, that's for sure. All right, let's go finally to our tight end, Sal Haas. And Heath, who's your guy?
Starting point is 00:35:23 I said Will Disley just because the fever pitch for will this Lee against the Cardinals and what this matchup means has reached sets heights. And it's like, this was a tough exercise to have two different sell highs at the tight end position. Um, but yeah, I would,
Starting point is 00:35:38 if I could get this Lee on waivers today and I already had a tight end, I'd absolutely try to add them and flip him for someone I actually want to have on my roster. Would you trade Will Disley for OJ Howard? Yeah. By the way, you mentioned the movie, you mentioned Fever Pitch.
Starting point is 00:35:57 You've probably seen Fever Pitch, Heath, right? It's probably one of your favorites. You probably saw it in theaters. I don't believe I've ever seen fever pitch okay good i you could i don't think i i start the bidding at like 200 for me to watch that movie just watching like this crap movie about how great the red socks are 200 for me to watch it i don't know i've always kind of had a soft spot in my heart for the red socks just because of how much Yankees fans hate them.
Starting point is 00:36:26 It's the same reason that I like the Cubs. Oh, okay. So, yeah, it's fine. Because Heath hates the Cardinals. And Ben Hooper! I know you don't get that reference, but he's your sell-high. I don't. You're right.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Austin Hooper last year had a six-game stretch where he had like eight targets or i don't quote me on this entirely i was looking at his game log yesterday but i'm pretty sure it was eight plus targets in four of the six games he had 10 plus and three of those six games and then after that point the rest of the season is about five or six games he didn't go over six targets the rest of the year the point i'm making there is austin hooper muhammad sanu calvin redley all these guys are behind jul Julio Jones at the end of the day. And that's just how Atlanta's offense works. Julio Jones will dominate the volume sometimes. And then it's just going to kind of fluctuate. There's going to be
Starting point is 00:37:11 spike weeks for the other guys. If you, if you monitor their targets week to week over the last couple of seasons, you'll see that it goes up and down. And so when Austin Hooper is on the upside and he had a two touchdown game last week and he had seven targets and he had nine targets back in week one that's when you sell him that's when his value is too high he's good he's a very solid fine low end tight end one but tight ends a thin enough position that you know if somebody will overpay for Austin Hooper you let them overpay he's not suddenly breaking out he's still going to struggle for targets consistently in this offense. Delaney Walker or Austin Hooper?
Starting point is 00:37:50 Delaney. Okay. OJ Howard or Austin Hooper? I'd still go with OJ Howard. All righty. All right, so those are your buy lows and your sell highs. Let me see if I can recap for you. The sell highs, Ben said Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Heath said Tom Brady. Ben said Mark Ingram. Heath said Philip Lindsay. Ben said T.Y. Hilton and Keenan Allen. Heath said Demarcus Robinson and McCall Hardman. And for tight end, Ben said Hooper. Hooper. And Heath said Disley.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And it's Jaws. You've never seen Jaws, Ben? I mean, I have when I was like five. Watch it again. It's an amazing movie. The Bilos. Ben said Goff. Heath said Wentz.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Ben said Bilo on Le'Veon Bell. Heath said Leonard Fournette. Ben said Bilo on Devante Adams. Heath said Robert Woods. Ben said Bilo on Chris Herndon. And Heath said George Kittle. All right. All right. All right.
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Starting point is 00:39:50 Use the promo code FFT. Again, that's promo code FFT for $10 off your first SeatGeek purchase. So Philadelphia's at Green Bay, and Carson Wentz versus Aaron Rodgers. So, Heath, let's talk about the offense versus defense. It's time for our Head & Shoulders segment. We're looking at great offense. Are we looking at a great defense? The Packers so far, like I said at the top of the show,
Starting point is 00:40:13 the second fewest points allowed in the NFL. The Eagles, they're ninth in scoring. They've played Washington, Atlanta, and Detroit. So who sort of wins this matchup, this offense versus defense matchup? Do you like the Packers defense or the Eagles offense? I think that the Packers defense will get the better of this matchup, but it's not that I think that they are necessarily better defensively than the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:40:34 They just have a couple of other things in their favor. It's a short week. It's on a Thursday night. It's at Lambeau, and Carson Wentz doesn't have to Sean Jackson for this game we don't know fully how healthy Alshon Jeffrey is so just a couple on a neutral field in a regular week I might take Wentz against this matchup and just say he's probably going to be just good enough but with all those other things in the Packers favor I'll take the deer deep in all right so we look at the waiver wire quarterbacks, Daniel Jones, Kyle Allen, Case
Starting point is 00:41:06 Keenum. I'll start with you, Heath, and I'll go to Ben. How many of them are you starting over Carson Wentz? Okay. So Case Keenum for sure. Andy Dalton for sure. Daniel Jones for sure. Well, Jones is really, really close. And Brissette's right there as well. All right. But Ben, how do you feel about Wentz? Because Wentz is 14th for Jamie, 12th for Dave, and 17th for Heath. Yeah, I would start none of those guys over Wentz. I mean, I don't love him, and I don't love Thursday night games either. But Thursday night games, there's that narrative that they're low scoring.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And last year, we saw that kind of put to bed. There was a lot of really high scoring Thursday night games. It's a short week for the defenses, too. And it might even be tougher for the defense to rebound. I mean, I think probably the more physical side than wide receivers. But what I expect out of this game is that we actually see the first kind of high scoring Thursday night game this year. And,
Starting point is 00:42:07 and we have this small sample so far that we haven't really seen that yet. I think this is going to shoot out a little bit. I think Rogers is going to have to throw against Philadelphia a little bit. And that Wentz is going to be able to find, uh, some room downfield against green Bay. It's not great that Deshaun Jackson is out, but,
Starting point is 00:42:20 uh, green Bay secondary got absolutely shredded by Minnesota, especially Stephon Diggs in week two, and Kirk Cousins just played terribly. They're not as good as their numbers to date, so I think Philadelphia can expose that. Differing takes there.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Heath, who do you like better, Wentz or Rodgers? I like Rodgers better than Wentz, and I like Rodgers better than most of those streaming options as well. I'm starting Aaron Rodgers. You're starting him, but you have Keenum one spot ahead. Currently, in the early projections, the numbers and the math said Keenum one spot ahead of Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:42:55 It's going to be hard for me to stomach that on Thursday afternoon. Gotcha. There are sometimes some adjustments that are made by me, and I may just make that adjustment. But Rodgers is a fine start. Are you guys starting any of the running backs in this game? Because, look, Green Bay's run defense has been terrible so far. Most of that was Dalvin Cook,
Starting point is 00:43:15 but they are allowing more than five yards per carry to running backs. They did pretty well against the Bears running backs. Phillip Lindsay scored two touchdowns, but he averaged 3.9 yards per carry. Royce Freeman averaged 4.2 yards per carry. Dalvin Cook is hurting those numbers. So I don't know how good their run defense actually is. But the Eagles run defense week after week, even with their defensive line injuries, has been really, really stout. You have somewhat of a timeshare there. So Ben, are any of the running backs in this game comfortable starts for you?
Starting point is 00:43:43 I would love to start Miles Sanders. I've talked about him for a few weeks. It's a little hard to... A lot of people pointed to the split in snaps last week for the Eagles and said, hey, this is becoming even more of a committee. It wasn't. Miles Sanders started again and played a ton through the middle of the second quarter.
Starting point is 00:44:00 He had 10 carries and three targets by that point. He fumbled on a drive in the middle of the second quarter. They left him in the game. He fumbled carries and three targets by that point. He fumbled on a drive in the middle of the second quarter. They left him in the game. He fumbled again and lost it. Uh, this lost the second one on the same drive. And from that point, about the five minute mark of the second quarter, he didn't touch the ball again until about 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter. So he didn't touch the ball the entire third quarter. He basically got benched for a huge stretch after playing as their main back in the first quarter and a half of that game then he came back in he had a couple touches late
Starting point is 00:44:30 they came back in when they were trailing and they needed some big plays and he had like a 33 yard reception then he put up like 20 yards rushing on his three carries in the fourth quarter he is their most explosive back their best back they want to use him they went back to him in the fourth and he gave them big plays what they were looking for when they did go back to him um you know jordan howard got the goal line touches that was another negative thing for miles sanders even before sanders fumbles jordan howard came in and got a one-yard touchdown run and we just don't know how much those fumbles will impact it might delay his breakout a little bit but i'm still talking like still wanting to to wanting to talk about the fact that he's starting, the fact that he's playing as much as he is.
Starting point is 00:45:09 The fumbles do delay that breakout a little bit, but they want him to be their lead back. But all of those things are fine for the long-term value and if we were still in the buy low, sell high section. But if you're talking about – you can't start him on Thursday night, right? We're talking about a guy that averaging 11, 12, no 13 touches per game. I have to start it. And just got benched.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Right. It's, I was just going to say that I'm in leagues where I have zero running. Yeah. Running back leagues. And I have to consider him. Well, would you start Wayne Gallman or,
Starting point is 00:45:37 or miles Sanders? Wayne Gallman. Probably Gallman. Yeah. We just started Adrian, Adrian Peterson or miles Sanders. Miles Sandersman, yeah. Would you start Adrian Peterson or Miles Sanders? Miles Sanders. No question.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, there's definitely a question for me. It's very close. I'd probably start AP. What's AP's upside? The Giants are awful. What's Miles Sanders' upside? The upside is 20 plus points. Adrian Peterson is probably averaging more yards per carry right now. Well, the Giants are awful. What's Miles Sanders upside? Yeah, I mean, what's... Well, okay. The upside is 20 plus points.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Adrian Peterson's probably averaging more yards per carry right now. Ooh, I don't know. I can't take the two-down plotter on one of the worst teams in football. I mean, how's that going in Miami? How's that going for Keelan Plott? We got to go to the Packers because Aaron Jones, Dave is high on Aaron Jones. Heath and Jamie have him as like a number two guy. So, Heath, let's finish off to the Packers because Aaron Jones, Dave is high on Aaron Jones. Heath and Jamie have him as like a number two guy.
Starting point is 00:46:28 So Heath, let's finish off with the Packers. Aaron Jones, your thoughts on him, and then obviously everybody's starting Devontae Adams. What about Marquez Valdez-Scantling? Yeah, Jones is the only running back I would consider starting in this game, and you probably will start Aaron Jones. There are some guys, like assuming LaShawn McCoy is practicing later this week, I think you start LaShawn McCoy over Aaron Jones. It's a bad situation with him wanting to split up touches.
Starting point is 00:46:52 And if this game turns into a game with high passing volume for Aaron Rodgers, that's bad news for Aaron Jones most likely. But he's a low-end number two running back that you probably end up starting. Marquez Valdez-Scantling, more of a flex. It will be interesting to see against a matchup where Devontae Adams should not have any trouble getting open. Is this the situation where he finally goes back to dominating
Starting point is 00:47:16 targets? Because so far, Valdez-Scantling has more targets than Devontae Adams does on the season and has more production. I'll be interesting to see what the target split is there. I would start Valdez Scantling as a number three wide receiver, but he's better as a flex. All right, I mean, look, this is a great matchup so far. Four wide receivers have had 100-yard games. Five wide receivers have caught a touchdown against the Eagles in only three games.
Starting point is 00:47:39 So, I mean, I think there's room for both of these guys, Adams and MBS, to be good. Who knows? Maybe it'll be Geronimo Allison, but he hasn't done much other than the Minnesota game. He had four catches, 25 yards, and a touchdown. He's been pretty useless. Okay, who is the second-best wide receiver in this game behind Devontae Adams? Is it Aguilar?
Starting point is 00:47:59 Is it Alshon? Is it MVS? I've got Alshon and Aguilar back, or Alshon and Marquez Valdez-Scantling back-to-back at 32 and 33. I guess I'd take Alshon, but I think there's more upside with MVS. Does that mean we're— I was going to lean MVS as well because we don't really know Alshon's health. Are we sitting Nelson Aguilar, Ben?
Starting point is 00:48:25 Yeah, I cut him in a couple of leagues. Thank you for your service. I appreciate what you did for me last week. We're done. Okay. All right, interesting. And I'm assuming we're not starting Jimmy Graham. You can't.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Correct. Packers DST, they're the number four DST in standard scoring leagues right now. You know, every league is different. The Eagles have allowed two big games in a row. The Packers are one of the top sacking teams in the NFL. The two Smiths that they signed in the offseason have been great for them. But Heath has them 14th.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Dave and Jamie are a little higher on the Packers DST at 8th for Jamie and 6th for Dave. And that will be the end of our game preview. We got a lot more to come here on Fantasy Football today. So the video show is sort of ending, but we will continue now with the audio portion, which is going to have some fun stuff. Fantasy Regulators.
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Starting point is 00:50:03 We can do fantasy regulators or I have prepared fantasy Jeopardy. Which would you like to do? Well, Jeopardy is the clear choice. Yeah, that's a pretty obvious. All right. So we'll have to hold fantasy regulators until the mailbag show on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:50:21 We'll do a bonus extended run of fantasy regulators. Let's do the mailbag. Drew from Philadelphia We'll do a bonus extended run of fantasy regulators. Let's do the mailbag. Drew from Philadelphia. I was offered James Connor for Tyler Lockett. I already have Hopkins, Juju, and Godwin. Is Connor a buy low for an offense that might want to run and check down more to James Connor? So would you give up Lockett when you're already solid at wide receiver for Connor? Yep. Yeah, I would. Although I do think that like these last two weeks have given me hope that Lockett may just be a top 10 wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:50:49 He could be better than Connor the rest of the year, but it's an equal trade, right? Yeah, he could definitely be better, but Connor also just played his highest snap share of the season. And we should be pretty optimistic about Connor. Jalen Samuels didn't touch the ball on offense in week three.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I know. Is Benny Snell the handcuff right now? No, We should be pretty optimistic about Conor. Jalen Samuels didn't touch the ball on offense in week three. I know. Is Benny Snell the handcuff right now? No, Samuels still played about a quarter of the snaps and ran some routes, but he just didn't get a touch. I mean, Conor is the guy still, and hopefully their offense is a little better. Next email or iTunes comment is from Meathead7. I had Big Ben in a two-quarterback league.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I picked up Mason Rudolph, and I grabbed up Mason Rudolph and I grabbed Daniel Jones. And I have Russell Wilson. Should I sell high on Daniel Jones or should I keep him? So it's a two QB league. He has Rudolph Jones and Russell Wilson. What do you do? I keep all three and I basically stream between Jones and Rudolph. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Agreed. Next one is from Dan from a field town in New Jersey. Should I trade Chris Carson and Juju Smith-Schuster, Carson and Juju, for DeAndre Hopkins and O.J. Howard? I would. No. You wouldn't? I would not.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I'm pretty down on Chris Carson. I'm fairly worried about Juju. I mean, Mason Rudolph did not play well. And that one long touchdown catch, you know, can't rely on it. I'm also down on O.J. Howard. Right, so I think Hopkins is the only guy you can really be optimistic about. I mean, I think he's a pretty big upgrade on Juju. And I was team Juju's
Starting point is 00:52:25 in his tier in the preseason. I think Heath and I are higher on Carson than you are, though. Yep, probably. I couldn't be lower on him. Alright, from Antoine. How can you use your opponent's lineup to gain an edge for the week? Example, using McColl Hardman in your flex if you're facing
Starting point is 00:52:42 Patrick Mahomes. I don't even consider it. Never consider it. Agreed. Never. In fact, I don't know how many of you know this. I've said it before, but I never, ever, ever look at my matchups before the games start. Never.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I don't want to know who I'm playing. I don't care. I just start who I like best. From Budweiser, and also that just takes away a lot of the stress on game day when I'm rooting for one guy, but I'm playing against him in another league. I just, it drives me.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I do the same thing, but the worst is when you go log in at the end of the day and you realize all the guys you crushed are on the other, are against you. You find it after the fact you're like, Oh cool. I played Keenan Allen this week. Oh cool.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I played Mike Evans this week. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Yeah. No, it can't be, but it's,
Starting point is 00:53:23 it's better than rooting your whole Sunday. Cause you know, you're getting crushed. Oh, I'm a scoreboard watcher. I, that's great. Yeah, but it's better than rooting your whole Sunday because you know you're getting crushed. Oh, I'm a scoreboard watcher. I can't do it. Full on scoreboard watcher. From Budward, would you trade Juju and Derek Henry for Mike Evans? Nope. Yeah, that's too much. Really?
Starting point is 00:53:40 I mean, it's... I like Evans, but I don't think he's that much... that far ahead of Juju. I'm not sure he's going to be better than Juju. Right. So you're just kind of giving up Derrick Henry. Even if you have Evans as valued as higher than Juju, it's not by a Derrick Henry margin.
Starting point is 00:53:56 So to me, if we were drafting again today, it would be an easy choice for me to take Mike Evans over Juju, and you guys don't necessarily feel that way? What if we were drafting last Saturday or Sunday morning? No, I think Mason Rudolph was... First of all, I'm not that influenced by the Giants' performance by Mike Evans. I called him a buy-low on this show several times. I liked Evans a lot going into the year,
Starting point is 00:54:19 and the first two games didn't change that for me, and neither did the third. He is exactly what I think he is still, as he was the number eight wide receiver for me, a mid-second round pick. Juju is the one I'm worried about because Mason Rudolph was worse than I expected. That's my explanation.
Starting point is 00:54:36 It was his first roadster. It's fine. Yeah, I'm not that worried about Juju. You've got to knock him down a little bit, but I'm not that worried. That's the thing with Daniel Jones, jones with kyle allen with mason rudolph like what we've seen is such a small sample size we can you can start to like make observations but we don't we don't know anything he wasn't even doing that well with ben roethlisberger though i mean let's let's like it hasn't been a good start to the year for Juju Smith-Schuster.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah, but they're also benching Dante Moncrief. They need someone to catch passes. He doesn't have a great arm, so that's my concern. He's not going to be able to push the ball downfield for Smith-Schuster. Juju is a low A-dot underneath receiver. Okay, he relies on big plays, but they do come after the catch all right let's do some fantasy jeopardy we have three categories we've got quarterbacks we've got running backs and we've got pass catchers pass really creative categories yes we have 200 400 and 600 for each uh for each category just so you know ben i have never once done this game without screwing something up.
Starting point is 00:55:46 So be prepared for that. I am so excited right now. I just gotta tell you. I'm very excited. It's basically just trivia, but after we reveal each answer, give a quick fantasy take on the answer. Alright, here we go.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Ben, you're the guest here, so the board is yours. Quarterbacks, running backs, or pass catchers for 200 400 or 600 i'll take uh pass catchers for 400 adam he is the number four wide receiver in ppr despite not even being in the top 30 in wide receiver targets anyone he's the number four wide receiver in PPR. Wait, do we lose points for getting wrong answers? No, no. I have guesses. Well, you have to say your name to buzz in.
Starting point is 00:56:36 We don't lose points? Okay, Ben. Go ahead. Number four, I'll say Demarcus Robinson? Heath, do you have a guess? Heath. Yeah. Who is Amari Cooper?
Starting point is 00:56:59 Not even a top 30 in targets. Number four wide receiver. Quick fantasy analysis, Heath. Great start to the game. Amari Cooper is going to be very good this year with Dak Prescott. I love their new offense, and I'm in on the Cowboys passing game. It's bad news for Zeke. He's not getting as many targets.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Ben, the board is yours. We'll do pass catchers for 600. We're still good on that one. Let's go harder. Let's go harder. Let's go harder. He leads the NFL in red zone targets and trails only Larry Fitzgerald in targets inside the 10-yard line. Ben. Ben.
Starting point is 00:57:36 It was T.Y. Hilton. You said it earlier in the show. No, I think I said he was second. Yeah. So you were wrong. Heath, he leads the NFL in red zone targets and trails only larry fitzgerald and targets inside the 10 yard line he yeah who is george kittle who is emmanuel sanders emmanuel sanders okay how do you feel about that ben quick reaction i mean i'm still having a hard time buying in on him,
Starting point is 00:58:07 but he's definitely looked fine. It's just not a great passing game, and I'm worried that he'll stay healthy all year. All right, Ben, the board is yours. Quarterbacks, running backs, or pass catchers? Let's just close out pass catchers for 200. Only Travis Kelsey has more receiving yards than this tight end. Ben. Yeah? Darren Waller. Only Travis Kelsey has more receiving yards than this tight end.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Ben. Yeah. Darren Waller. Ah. Heath. Only Travis Kelsey has more receiving yards than this tight end. Heath. Mark Andrews.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Yeah. Ah. We're doing terrible. Evan Ingram. Evan Ingram. Evan Ingram. Yeah. Of course. Evan Ingram. Evan Ingram Evan Ingram Yeah Of course Evan Ingram
Starting point is 00:58:47 No analysis needed Alright Ben the board is still yours Quarterbacks or running backs We'll do running gates Or 200 Let's find something Running backs or 200
Starting point is 00:58:56 Through three games He leads all running backs In receptions While averaging less than Three yards per carry Ben Ben Baby on bell in receptions while averaging less than three yards per carry. Ben. Ben. Le'Veon Bell?
Starting point is 00:59:09 Heath. What? Through three games, he leads all running backs in receptions while averaging less than three yards per carry. I don't think... Le'Veon Bell leads all running backs in receptions. What's your answer? Heath.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Yes, Heath. David Johnson. Who is Le'Veon Bell leads all running backs in reception. What's your answer? Heath. Yes, Heath. David Johnson. Who is Le'Veon Bell? We are playing Jeopardy, Ben. You have to phrase it in the form of a question. Oh, my God. Okay, 0-0. 0-0.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Le'Veon Bell is the answer, though. Buy Le'Veon Bell. Ben, the board is yours. Yeah, 400 running backs. You are running the board here. Philip Lindsay has five of these. Royce Freeman has zero. Ben, what are inside the five rush attempts?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Oh! Boom! Ben Gretsch is on the board, and that is actually my favorite stat of the day. Philip Lindsay, five carries inside the five yard line royce freeman zero yeah it doesn't make any sense to me royce freeman weighs in 50 pounds heavier yeah and he's slower so he can't you know by not much he's actually more agile he graded out with a better agility scores at almost 50 pounds heavier just look at he had a
Starting point is 01:00:23 touchdown called back by a penalty this week. Freeman, after I told you he was a buy low, about an 18-yard run, I think it was, or maybe it was like 22 yards. It was nice. Longer run. He's breaking off big runs. Yeah, I mean, he looks good still.
Starting point is 01:00:35 And they both got five targets again. We talked about last week how Joe Flacco's throwing a ton to the running backs. They're not using a third passing down back. I still think Royce Freeman's definitely a buy. But yeah, it's disheartening that Lindsey's getting all the close work. All right, Ben, you're up 400 to nothing. And the board is yours.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Go 600 for running back. The answer there is your daily double, which I think you can actually wager up to 600 on this. Well, if we can't go negative, I might as well. No, no, no, no. On the daily double, you can. So you better be careful here. I will wager $300. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:11 And I guess I got to be fair here. No. You know what? No negatives. No negatives. It's not fair. No. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:01:17 No negatives. That's not fair to Ben. That's not fair to Ben. That means that getting the Daily Double is actually a bad thing. Because you're at such a rate. No, because then I could just wager a ton. That's not good. If you can't go negative, then you can't wager more than
Starting point is 01:01:27 would put you in the negative. Alright, fine. Then you can wager up to $400, but no negatives. I'm going to wager $300 of my $400. So he has to get at least two right in the last category if I get this. I'll be up to $700. These top three running backs in PPR are separated by just two
Starting point is 01:01:43 fantasy points. These top three running backs in PPR are separated by just two fantasy points. These top three running backs? Yeah. Who are Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara, and why can't I think of the third one? It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:02:02 You got it wrong. Who are Dalvin Cook, Christian McCcafree and austin eckler i don't get a chance to try this no not in the daily dalvin cook how did i not yeah that's hard it's not i told you i didn't sleep well last night it's not easy when you're not looking uh doubt what you should do is pull up a list of teams that helps dalvin cook christian mcafree austin eckler top three in ppr all right smashed this week, so I thought maybe he got up there, but obviously I should have got Cook and Eckler. That's terrible.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Ben, you're up 400 to nothing. Quarterbacks. No, 100. I lost. What are you talking about? I just said you don't lose money on the Daily Double. I just said that. You don't lose money?
Starting point is 01:02:38 No. You're not wagering that. That's nonsense. You just get to choose whatever. Yeah. No. Okay. We'll keep score. I'm at 100 here. Wait a get to choose whatever. No. Okay. He will keep score.
Starting point is 01:02:46 I'm at 100 here. Wait a second. Why would you lose money on only the daily double? What I'm saying is that means it's bad to get the daily double. You're putting yourself at – Because you're picking your wager amount. That's why. You're risking an amount.
Starting point is 01:02:57 But you picked a wager that was less than what it was worth on the board. So, like, it didn't really – Fine, fine. You know what? I don't care. You dig your own grave. 100 to like, it didn't really... Fine, fine. You know what? I don't care. You dig your own grave. 100 to nothing. You're really bad at this, Adam.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Quarterbacks for two, four, or six. Quarterbacks for two. Okay. He set an NFL record for highest passer rating through the first three games of a career. Ben. Ben.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Who is Kyler Murray? He set an NFL record for highest passer rating through the first three games of a career. Heath, anything? Who is Gardner Minshew? Gardner Minshew. Did he already play three games? Yeah, he played. Well, two and three quarters.
Starting point is 01:03:47 We'll see where he's at for his next quarter. It's three games. It's the stat. All right. Let's go 400 here. Actually, Ben, I'll let you choose. Four or six? Yeah, 400.
Starting point is 01:03:58 These two quarterbacks are the only ones with more than four interceptions through three games. You said quarterbacks, right? Yeah. These two quarterbacks are the only ones with more than four interceptions through three games. They've thrown more than four picks. I know one. Anyone here buzzeted?
Starting point is 01:04:20 Ben. Ben. Who are Baker Mayfield and... I don't know the other one. Hey. I only knew one of them as well, but it wasn't the one that he knew, so who are Matt Ryan
Starting point is 01:04:40 and Baker Mayfield? Correct! Way to go! Alright. So that means it should be 400 to 400, but because Ben took points away from himself for no reason, it's 400 to 100, which means this is for the game, Heath, for $600. Both of you, I guess.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I was saying Heath had the board, but there's only one left. Here we go. Quarterbacks for 600. Only Kyler Murray has thrown more passes than this veteran signal caller. Heath. Heath.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Who is Case Keenum? Oh, he's third. I don't know who's second, though. I do know who's second now. Ben, you have five seconds to win the game. I'm going to say it after Ben doesn't get it. Okay. Five, four, three.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Who is Russell Wilson? Heath? Who is it? Who is Andy Dalton? Correct. And you know what? Honestly, I'm running the show. You guys tied.
Starting point is 01:05:37 There is no reason why you should have lost money on the Daily Double when you don't lose money on any of the other. It's funny. You do mess up every time we do this show, but oddly, you mess up in the favor of whoever I'm facing every time we play this game. The only time I've actually won this game was the time that I ran the board and shut Jamie out,
Starting point is 01:05:55 and you couldn't find a way to fix the rules to give Jamie the victory. You are a terrible game show host. I am not disputing that, but in this case, I am right and you guys are wrong. I made it clear you don't lose money for getting the daily double wrong. I quit. No, you don't.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Don't quit. It's a tie. You guys both win. Everybody wins. I want to thank Heath and I want to thank Ben. I want to thank our listeners for tuning in. This has been Fantasy Football Today. We'll come back tomorrow and preview the AFC home game. See you later,
Starting point is 01:06:26 everybody.

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