Fantasy Football Today - 09/26 Fantasy Football Podcast: Waiver Wire
Episode Date: September 26, 2017Perhaps this is not the most exciting Waiver Wire week, but there are good streaming options at QB, TE and DST plus Rishard Matthews and Wendell Smallwood. We give you our Waiver Wire priorities (2:15...) and take a quick peak ahead to Week 5 QB streamers (9:23) before going in-depth on each position later in the show ... Chris Thompson or Isaiah Crowell rest of season (17:40)? Plus our thoughts on DAL-ARI (23:16) and the Dropometer (27:50)! ... Giving you Waiver Wire options at each position. QBs (34:00) including Andy Dalton and Deshaun Watson; RBs (42:35) including Smallwood and Andre Ellington; WRs (47:33) including Matthews and some injury replacements; TEs (52:30) including Charles Clay and Cameron Brate; DSTs (56:16) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, David, Jamie, and T.
Well, Darren Scrolls is out for the year.
It's Wendell Smallwood, your waiver wire headliner this week.
What does that say about the waiver wire?
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So who's got some 3-0 squads?
Dave, Jamie, Heath?
I have one.
I have a few.
Two of them came against you.
Wow.
I'm never bragging again, ever.
I mean –
So, yeah.
Talk about that, Mr. Todd, early on Thursday.
Pathetic.
It's pathetic. I mean – It's like a time you've done that in your life. It's pathetic. I'm never So, yeah. Talk about that, Mr. Todd, early on Thursday. Pathetic. It's pathetic.
I mean –
It's the second time you've done that in your life.
It's pathetic.
I'm never doing it again.
And that's the thing.
And this is why I don't usually change my lineups based on what happened on Thursday.
If I'm down by a big amount, I'm not going to make a lineup change that I wouldn't ordinarily make to try to catch points because you just never know what happens.
Like I had J.J. Nelson. I needed seven freaking never know what happens. Like I had J.J. Nelson.
I needed seven freaking fantasy points in a PPR league from J.J. Nelson.
I got zero.
I had C.J. Anderson in that league.
I had some total duds.
And I lost to Todd Gurley.
I was so – there's no way I'm losing with Todd Gurley in PPR.
And I lost.
So good for me.
And if Jeronimo Allison doesn't get tackled inside the five,
if that goes as a touchdown, if that Aaron Rodgers, I would have won because Jamie had Mason Crosby.
Right, and I had Crosby.
Yeah.
So screw it.
You know what?
I'm done.
I don't want to play anymore.
It's like you guys do the show.
I'm so annoyed.
So annoyed.
But I do have something very cool to tell you about what I'll be doing this afternoon
to tease.
It's coming in a little bit.
Heath, any three-nose?
I think I have two.
Nice. So it's okay
I've got 1-0 and 3 teams still
And that one's like, I thought it was maybe my best team
Coming into the year, so that's disheartening
So it goes
Okay, today's Waver Wire
And we'll talk about the Monday night game
And we should probably talk about the Sunday night game as well
And a lot of people have some
Chris Thompson questions, so we will absolutely discuss Chris Thompson.
But let's get started with your top three waiver wire priorities for Fantasy Week 4.
Dave, why don't you kick it off?
I think you've got to start with Wendell Smallwood
and the opportunity that should be ahead of him now that Darren Sproles has
both a broken arm and a torn ACL.
He could be the end of the line for poor Darren.
Loved watching him play.
And now Smallwood's going to get a big opportunity, or at least we think,
working with LeGarrette Blount.
After him, I don't know if there's anybody that I'm really dying to get off the waiver wire.
I think it depends on what your needs are.
Receivers like Sterling Shepard, Marquise Lee, Rashard Matthews,
those guys are out there.
If you're streaming quarterbacks, I think Andy Dalton is the best you can do this week.
And other running backs that are good pass catchers, Jamal Charles, Alvin Kamara, Andre Ellington.
Did I give you three?
You did.
Are you still calling Jamal Charles a good pass catcher?
No.
Because he doesn't catch passes anymore?
I think he's still a good pass catcher.
I've not seen anything that suggests that he's bad at it.
But they're not giving him opportunities. It doesn't really matter anymore? I think he's still a good pass catcher. I've not seen anything to suggest that he's bad at it. But they're not giving him opportunities, so it doesn't really matter.
Yeah, it's interesting.
Yeah, I guess I looked at the running backs in what will be Jamie's waiver wire column,
and it seems like Smallwood for sure, but it seems like I'll be focusing on wide receivers,
maybe tight ends this week.
Jamie, go ahead.
Who are your top three?
Well, Smallwood would be one.
Dalton would be two.
And then probably the Jaguars' DST.
At the Jets.
Yeah, what's their ownership, Jamie?
60%.
60%.
Okay.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Heath, top three for you?
I'll go Smallwood.
I'll go Marquise Lee.
Love the fact that he's getting the targets at least.
And I'll say Sterling Shepard.
Yeah?
You want a fun Geronimo Allison stat?
Yes.
Can you say Geronimo as you say it?
I'm sorry?
Can you say, like, Geronimo!
Geronimo!
Okay.
Allison.
He has now played four games in the last two years without Randall Cobb.
It's taking me a second to pull this up, sorry.
But in those four games, especially the last two, just go with the last two.
He's been at least 12 fantasy points in the last two games without Randall Cobb on the field.
Okay.
And you want an even less exciting stat?
Not that that was so unexciting, but also cool.
Okay, never mind.
You want another stat about a wide receiver?
Here it is.
Tyler Eifert's going to be out multiple weeks.
Brandon LaFell, he scored six touchdowns last season.
Four of them came in games that Eifert did not play.
And one of them came in Eifert's first game of the season
when he played just 15 snaps.
So maybe that's more for the 14-team league owners or deeper.
But Brandon LaFell, I know he was a dud against the Packers,
but, you know, he's got Cleveland.
Man, there are a lot of good wide receiver options this week.
A lot of them.
Yeah? All right, so...
I got a sleeper one.
Is it Brandon LaFell?
It is Travis Benjamin.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's Robert Woods. There's another one. Is it Brandon LaFell? It is Travis Benjamin. Yeah.
He's Robert Woods.
There's another one.
I don't want to have to rely on those guys.
Paul Richardson?
What if you have to?
If you have to, then you hopefully are in a 14-team league.
Would you rather go with Paul Richardson
if Doug Baldwin's out?
Potentially.
Yeah.
All right, we'll get into all that.
We'll get into all that.
But give me like a 0 to 10 grade on the waiver wire this week.
I'm feeling like a 4.
Yeah, it's not good.
6.5.
I'll say 7.
Jamie, why?
Why so excited?
I like tight end streaming options.
It's got great quarterback streaming options this week.
There's a lot of wide receivers that have some.
We haven't said the name Rashard Matthews yet, right?
I did.
Oh, you did?
Dave did.
He's 65% owned, so he's right at the threshold,
but he should probably be number one at the wide receiver right behind Smallwood.
Smallwood.
Compare Smallwood this week to how you felt about Chris Thompson last week.
They're so different.
Yeah.
But I think you just got to look at it and say workload.
All right.
Compare Smallwood this week to how you felt about Kerwin Williams after week one.
I like him more.
Oh, much more.
And I asked you, two of you, Heath and Jamie, on Sunday's show,
which Eagles running back you like better going forward.
I believe you said Blunt.
Do you still feel that way?
No.
I'll take Smallwood.
I think I said Blunt and Standard, Smallwood and PPR.
I'll agree.
And I'll go with that.
Dave? Rest of the season, small wood and PPR. I'll agree. And I'll go with that. Dave?
Rest of the season, I'll take blunt.
Okay.
And PPR too?
I guess.
All right.
Jamie, you're going to be in Los Angeles this week.
You better get some Roscoe's chicken and waffles, but that will not be – well, that is the primary reason you're going is to try Roscoe's chicken and waffles.
What is the secondary reason you're going to try Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles. What is the secondary reason you are going to Los Angeles?
I'll be at the Chelsea Pub and Lounge for the Packers-Bears game
as part of an event for CBS Sports and Old Navy.
So if you guys want to come out and say hi, I'll be there at 4 o'clock Pacific time,
my first trip to Los Angeles.
I do not know if I'll have time to get to Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles, Adam,
but I'll try.
But I will definitely be at the Chelsea Pub and Lounge,
which is in Hermosa Beach.
Come say hi. We'll talk about
setting your lineups and talk about Packers Bears.
That will be very cool. That will be very fun.
Go out there if you're in the
Los Angeles area. Jamie's there
on Thursday.
The Packers Bears is the Thursday night game, obviously.
We talked just, you
know, usually we spend a little bit more time on Waver Wire at the top of the show. So let's just
do that real quick here, even though it's not the most exciting week. Some of the tight end
streamers that you'd be interested in, and we'll come back to these guys. But Heath, you said,
you know, good tight ends to pick up this week. Who are you looking at? I'm starting with Charles
Clay. He scored against the Broncos. He's clearly Tyrod Taylor's favorite
option after LaShawn McCoy. He's his favorite option that's not a running back. And I expect
the Bills are going to have to be chasing the score just a little bit more in this game at
Atlanta. I like Clay's chances of getting another touchdown and six or seven more catches.
Charles Clay is the second most targeted player on the Bills, as Heath mentioned.
McCoy has 20 targets. Clay has 18. Zay Jones has 12.
I saw something that just shocked me.
I don't know that he's going to get a huge uptick in targets anytime soon.
He's seen 12 targets. He's caught three of them.
That's not good.
Maybe Jordan Matthews gets more targets. He has 11 so far in the season. And, Jamie, you actually have Cameron Braid as your number one tight end for this week.
Giants.
Yeah, but isn't Klay a little safer?
Yes.
Yeah.
All right.
So, yeah, there are some options.
Certainly, Safarian Jenkins, Ben Watson.
More on that in a minute. Look, I thought we should look ahead briefly to Week 5
because there are some big-time quarterbacks that will be on
by, headlined by my favorite, Trevor Simeon, but
also Matt Ryan, Andrew Brees, and Kirk Cousins. So if you want
to make a pickup now for Week 5, maybe you don't have to do it
tonight, but at some point
this week, here are some of the best quarterback options based on matchups that could be available
in week five. And I'll just say Jameis Winston, he probably won't be available, but it's possible
that somebody drops him because he's got the Giants this week. It's very unlikely, but Jameis
Winston has the Patriots on a Thursday.
Other more realistic options.
Jay Cutler against Tennessee.
Cutler also has New Orleans.
No, I'm sorry.
Yeah, New Orleans this week.
Tennessee next week.
They've been bad against quarterbacks.
Joe Flacco's at Oakland.
The Colts, whoever their quarterback's going to be, probably Brissette.
They have a good matchup.
San Francisco.
San Francisco, thank you.
Deshaun Kaiser against the Jets.
Josh McCown in that same game at Cleveland.
Revenge game.
Minnesota at Chicago, although Chicago has been pretty good against quarterbacks at home.
It's actually, unfortunately, not a great week.
But I wish Cutler had done something against the Jets
because he's got the Saints this week and the Titans next week and could be a guy to get you through those two weeks. And maybe he still will be just because he wasn't good against the Jets because he's got the Saints this week and the Titans next week
and could be a guy to get you through those two weeks.
And maybe he still will be
just because he wasn't good against the Jets
doesn't mean he won't be good against the Saints.
And yeah, I guess we will discuss Jay Cutler in a little bit.
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Oh, we're going for sure.
I was hoping you were gonna say maybe,
and then I was gonna say, Heath, it seems
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means no, because that's the only
Jack Johnson lyric that I actually know.
No. Better together?
Banana pancakes?
Don't know banana pancakes. Upside Down?
Oh, Upside Down. I know Upside Down.
Yeah.
Speaking of Upside Down, Stranger Things Season 2 coming out in about a month. Looking forward to it.
Big news! Andrew Luck might practice this week but will not play.
We're looking at maybe week 6 or 7 for Andrew Luck of 2020 at this rate.
But no, week 6, week seven, those have been the reports.
He will miss Seattle,
maybe miss San Francisco in week five
at Tennessee in week six.
Sam Bradford's status
is unclear for this week. Are you planning
on him playing? Nope.
Melvin Gordon
has a minor bone bruise in his knee. Are you
planning on Melvin Gordon playing?
Yep. He said he wanted to come back in in his knee. Are you planning on Melvin Gordon playing? Yep. Yeah.
He said he wanted to come back in in week three.
Cool.
Pete Carroll talked about getting Eddie Lacy and Thomas Rawls more carries,
and he said he couldn't do that last week because they were trailing. But, I mean, it's still Carson's job, right?
Yep.
It's got to be.
Rob Kelly's status is unclear.
They have a Monday night game at Kansas City.
Sproles out for the year.
Ty Montgomery hurt his wrist.
We don't think Montgomery's going to miss any time, right?
But they cannot bring themselves to put anybody else in the game.
He hurt his wrist, and he's over there on the sideline like,
you good?
You good?
Then he played 96% of the snaps.
Crazy.
They got the Thursday game, but he should be fine.
Matt Forte has a toe injury.
And here we go.
The spoiler.
I teased it.
Here it is.
I am going to the city today to interview Matt Forte.
How cool is that?
Wow.
That is awesome.
Are you going to tell him how much time you spent telling everybody that
Bilal Powell is better than him?
Oh, yeah.
I was the only one in the fantasy community that thought Bilal Powell would
be better than Matt Forte.
No, but I'm going to ask him a super controversial question about what everybody is talking about these days, and he is the best person to answer it.
I am going to ask him Chicago-style or New York-style pizza and see what he has to say.
You better give the right answer.
Yeah, he better say New York.
He'll say New York.
He's in New York now.
Julio Jones has a minor back injury.
He should be fine, Julio Jones?
Yeah.
All right.
I'd like him to score a touchdown one of these weeks.
Yeah, you never know.
You never know.
Doug Baldwin has a groin strain.
We don't know the severity yet.
Tyler Eifert, multiple weeks he's going to miss with a back injury.
How droppable is Tyler Eifert?
I've got him in a couple of deeper leagues, and I'm not going to do with a back injury. How droppable is Tyler Eifert? I've got him
in a couple of deeper leagues and I'm not going to do it
yet. Drop him.
90% droppable. There are some
deeper leagues where I wouldn't.
And if you drop him, you should change your team
name to Tyler Eifert.
And
do you expect the following players?
Jordan Reed at Kansas City on Monday night.
No.
No.
All right.
Well, if you don't expect him, then Vernon Davis is definitely somebody that we should be looking at on waivers.
He's 5% on.
We don't expect Kelvin Benjamin.
Nope.
Michael Crabtree.
Nope.
Really?
Okay.
Sammy Watkins.
Not as of now.
Randall Cobb. Nope. Same. Sammy Watkins. Not as of now. Randall Cobb.
Nope.
Same.
Quick turnaround there.
Corey Davis.
Nope.
John Brown.
Double nope.
J.J. Nelson.
And when I say do you expect him to show up in the stat sheet in week four?
I would hope so.
I thought he'd show up this week.
Just awful. Three targets, no
catches. Tough go of it.
I don't know why you'd ever throw the ball
at anybody but Larry Fitzgerald.
That's why he's in a good mood.
Oh, that was so much fun.
He is incredible.
He is not incredible. He's a possession
receiver. He had a great game. Are you kidding me?
Why don't you watch some football?
He had a great game.
He had 15 targets game. Are you kidding me? Why don't you watch some football? He had a great game. He had a great game.
Absolutely.
He had 15 targets and 13 catches.
You give almost anybody in the league that type of work and they'll do well.
He did pretty damn well.
Did you see the catches he made last night?
He made great catches.
The touchdown was awesome.
The 37-yard play was awesome.
He had a very good game.
I think before he had 21 yards.
I was prepared to talk about this because I knew Heath would want to.
Like, he averages 11 yards per catch now.
That's what he is.
Like, the last five years, he basically averages like 11.2 yards per catch.
He's not a great player.
Great players don't average 11.2 yards per catch.
He's the third best receiver in the history of football.
He might be.
Oh, no.
That is a wow.
Outrageously stupid comment.
Oh, my God.
Jerry Rice. Randy Moss.
Calvin Johnson is the number two receiver in the history of football.
Nope.
And then Randy Moss might be three.
You're saying Calvin's better than Jerry and Randy?
Absolutely than Randy Moss.
Absolutely.
Wow.
Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald.
You really?
Oh, okay. I think Antonio Brown might be there now. Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald. You really? Okay.
I think Antonio Brown might be there now.
He might be?
At three.
Fitzgerald's had a great career.
He's a top ten receiver, but maybe top five, but he ain't Calvin Johnson.
All right, Heath, I want to introduce a segment to this show that we do on the baseball show,
Hey Real Quick.
Hey Real Quick's fun, right?
We like Hey Real Quick.
Yes.
Now, we're going to be quick with our answers and the questions, or we just elaborate on the questions.
I always get this messed up.
I don't know.
Let's figure it out.
This is our first time on FFT.
So, Hey Real Quick, guys.
Chris Thompson or Isaiah Crowell in PPR, rest of season?
Thompson.
Wow.
Look, I...
He's not...
No, I'm not disagreeing with you.
He's not getting a good rushing average. That offensive line isn't doing
what we think he's doing. He's not getting as much work as we thought.
He's also not scoring touchdowns.
If you had told me before the season started that he'd have
as many touchdowns through three weeks
As Julio Jones
I would be excited
You'd co-sign that one
I'll say Thompson
But definitely Thompson this week
Jamie who you got
You have to
I don't know
Because I mean look if Rob Kelly's out weeks
And Piran's out weeks he's going to get more work
He might get more work anyway
I think they've got to They don't have to turn him up to 20 touches a week Kelly's out weeks and Piran's out weeks. He's going to get more work. He might get more work anyway. I agree.
They don't have to turn him up to 20 touches a week, but 12 to 15, that should be the range at this point.
And Cousins clearly is in love with him.
This is the guy who's costing Jamison Crowder the breakout year we had.
Not to mention, to an extent, Terrell Pryor, too.
I just want to say something.
Well, not him.
Not Thompson. No, but, I mean, Cousins does what he did Sunday night with Pryor and Crowder doing nothing.
Nothing, right.
All right.
I'm hearing what you're saying here, and I'm seeing the emails and the tweets from our listeners,
and I am thinking that Chris Thompson is just a beautiful sell-high candidate right now.
Of course.
Yeah.
And, look, he's never had more than 12 carries in a game.
Pirine has been bad. He hasn't shown us anything. And they still didn't give him. He might be. I
mean, look, we thought maybe Melvin Gordon was bad. He ended up being a good player.
Pirine is not doing well, and they still won't give Chris Thompson more than eight carries last
week. And that was with Pirine getting a little banged up at the end of that game. So I don't know.
When Kelly gets back, I don't know how many carries that Thompson gets,
and you just can't rely on long touchdowns.
They are as fluky as it gets.
You can't rely on long touchdowns.
So I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your answer, Thompson versus Crowell,
but people are super high on Thompson right now,
and it might be time to sell.
Would you rather have him?
I don't know how much you can get from him.
I think you can get a lot.
People are really high.
If you're talking trade with a total noob in fantasy, you can probably rip him off.
Somebody said on Twitter, Chris Thompson is the top 10 running back rest of season.
I don't think that's true.
I don't know if I believe that.
I think the 14 touches that he had last week is a career high for him.
I know 12 carries is a career high, and he's only had one game with more than nine.
Hey, real quick, Todd Gurley or Ezekiel Elliott?
Ezekiel Elliott, by the way, two straight games, less than four yards per carry.
He had two such games last year.
One of them was his first ever game against Giants.
So kind of weird.
He's not dominating.
Todd Gurley or Ezekiel Elliott?
I might argue that Zeke's been better in two of these first three games than he was last year.
He has two of the three weeks this season, he has the most yards after contact.
Okay, well, sorry.
The line's just not been good.
Hey, real quick.
Zeke or Gurley?
Zeke.
Zeke.
I wrote about selling Todd Gurley yesterday.
If you can get a star, do it.
Zeke.
I agree with the guys.
Zeke.
Okay.
He also is on pace for 60 catches.
He had 32 last year in 15 games, Ezekiel Elliott.
Hey, real quick.
Terrell Pryor or Willie Sneed?
Wow.
I'll take the unknown. I'll take the unknown.
I'll take Sneed.
You'd rather have that, wouldn't you?
You've got to figure at some point Pryor turns it around.
Yeah.
Yeah?
I don't like it.
Pryor.
Pryor.
You don't like saying it, and neither do I, but you realize what he is and what his role is.
There's a chance, like another couple weeks of this, and I'm going to be saying, he had one year in his career.
Well, I just want to go back to something, which I know I briefly mentioned, and I don't think we really talked about it too much,
is when Coleman was out, Pryor's numbers exploded last year.
When Coleman came back, he was still good, but he wasn't as good.
And so you're seeing him when he has to share the field with other guys
that maybe it's just the focus is not the same for him with the targets
and he's not living up to the potential.
I'm just wondering if after week one, Cousins began souring on him
because you see 11 targets in week one.
And he had six catches, but he only had 66 yards.
And then after that, two games with four targets, two games with two catches.
He hasn't scored yet, and he hasn't had more than 31 yards in a game since week one
when he had 66.
So eventually he's going to put it together.
Okay.
Well, Terrell Pryor, people are asking if they should drop Terrell Pryor.
It's probably a little premature.
The better question, when you ask about whether or not you should drop a guy,
if you saw that same player on the waiver wire in a different league,
would you pick him up?
Would you put in a waiver claim for him?
Give up absolutely nothing to get him.
And for me, the answer is yes.
I would absolutely put in a waiver claim for Terrell Pryor.
So that means I can't drop him.
He was one of the guys that I looked at and said,
do I put him in the column now?
No, it's too soon.
Do you put in a waiver claim for Jamison Crowder?
Yeah, I still do.
Yep.
Okay.
Would you rather have Rashard Matthews or Jamison Crowder?
Matthews right now with Davis Hurd.
Yeah.
All right, let's talk about last night's game.
Dallas 28, Arizona 17.
Would you believe that Arizona had the ball for 36 minutes and 15 seconds?
Dallas barely had the ball in this game.
They had some long plays, short possessions, and struggled for a half.
Yeah, Dak Prescott, 34% started.
He's the number 11 quarterback in fantasy.
Or he was the number 11 quarterback in fantasy in week three.
Actually be interested to see where he ranks right now because he's done very, very nicely.
Respectable games against the Giants, the Broncos,
and then a big game yesterday.
So, so far, so good.
Schedule's going to get a lot easier for them.
I don't know.
Any major takeaways from the Cowboys side?
The game was basically how Dallas wants to play football,
which is be balanced and be efficient,
which is what they ended up being, at least the final set say,
that they started off a little slow.
And then when they got the short field in the second quarter,
they seemed to really turn on the Jets.
And Dak scoring that rushing touchdown, I feel like energized the whole team.
Their offensive line did a lot better, and Dak was able to attack downfield.
The touchdown to Bryce Butler was great.
You asked where he ranks right now among fantasy quarterbacks.
Dak is eighth.
You've got Brady first with 90 fantasy points.
He's far ahead of everybody else.
And then Dak has 63 fantasy points.
This is a standard scoring league.
18, 19, and 26 fantasy points through the first three weeks of the season.
And standard scoring with quarterbacks, we mean six points per passing touchdown in CBSSports.com leagues.
The Cardinals scored 17 points
with 36 minutes and 15 seconds of possession.
Jamie Palmer scored 25 points.
Very good.
Didn't really feel like it was very good,
but he does get the liners.
His offensive line was a disaster.
Horrible.
Oh, terrible.
Missing their left tackle, and it shows.
But their right tackle, Valdir, played awful.
What do you think about Palmer going forward?
Is he somebody we can rely on this season?
Can we rely on him in Week 4 against the Niners?
What do you think?
Week 4, for sure.
I mean, you just saw Jared Goff carve up that defense.
So, yes, at home, I think I mentioned this last week,
that the time change has been something that's impacted him
over the course of his career.
So this is one of those situations when he's at home,
it's an opponent he's familiar with, he should be fine.
Yeah, I thought considering the circumstances
and the way that his offensive line played,
that he played very well last night.
I don't have any problems starting him against San Francisco.
And looking at his upcoming schedule, I think I'm probably fine starting him for the next month.
Yeah, San Francisco at Philadelphia, we'll see about the health of their secondary.
Tampa Bay at the Rams, then a bye, then at San Francisco, and then it gets tougher.
But we'll worry about that then for Carson Palmer Who's 75% owned
Any reason to own Cardinals running back?
Ellington I think is their best guy
And I think he's also a good pass catcher
Out of the backfield
But he's going to get hurt eventually
If they keep using him
If you're desperate, he's the guy, I guess.
Chris Johnson's had it.
He had an opportunity last night.
He was terrible.
Looked awful.
He's not good.
Ellington interests me.
I might go for Ellington this week.
Maybe it's not a waiver claim.
Maybe it's a free agent pickup on Wednesday.
But just to see what happens, it kind of feels like Smallwood,
where we think he's the best guy, just give him the chance.
But it also kind of feels like Chris Thompson,
that he probably won't get that much work.
But, yeah, it's not a great situation, obviously.
And drop J.J.
Would you rather have Jerron Brown or J.J. Nelson, rest of season?
J.J. Nelson.
I'll stick with Nelson.
All right, but Brown is getting more targets.
And even last week he had 11 targets. He had six yesterday. He should have had two touchdowns. He'll stick with Nelson. All right, but Brown is getting more targets. And even last week he had 11 targets.
He had six yesterday.
He should have had two touchdowns.
He had one called back.
And I'm sure we don't care about Jermaine Gresham,
who had five catches for 47 yards.
So let's get into the waiver wire.
Some news and notes real quick.
John Harbaugh says he doesn't want to play in London anytime soon.
They had a terrible showing.
Ravens are better than that.
We'll see how much better.
Tampa Bay linebacker Levante Davids week to week with an ankle injury.
We've got to check on all the injuries on defense for the Buccaneers.
They faced the Giants this week.
Probably don't need that many guys.
Seattle left tackle Reese Odeombo.
Yes.
All right.
He's got an ankle injury.
It's the last thing they want.
They're already down one left tackle.
Time for the drop-o-meter.
And the drop-o-meter, we have, I think, 10 guys suggested by the Twitter folk out there.
Terrence West on the drop-o-meter from Ronnie.
Three and a half.
Zero?
Who's dropping Terrence West?
I don't know if I'm starting Terrence West, but I don't think I'm dropping Terrence West.
Yeah, zero.
When my voice gets that high, it means I really mean it.
I'm going three and a half.
Okay.
That's still pretty low.
That's still not a drop.
Right.
Hunter Henry and Jamison Crowder from Andy.
Two zeros for me.
I would keep them.
Yeah, I think I agree.
Maybe a one on Crowder.
Terrell Pryor.
Not a one on Henry, huh?
The Titans just make me want to puke.
Yeah, they do.
Absolutely.
Feels like there's three good ones and that's it.
Terrell Pryor.
Zero.
Zero.
And who's next?
Baltimore DST.
Eight. Yeah, ten next? Baltimore DST. Eight.
Yeah.
Ten.
They've got Pittsburgh.
They've got Oakland.
Then the Bears.
Then the Vikings and the Dolphins and the Titans.
It's not great.
Eric Decker.
Ten.
Ten.
Ten.
Jacquez Rogers.
The only way I would hang on to him is if I'm in a league with Doug Martin on my team and I'm desperate for a running back.
I wish you would just stop that in a league.
If I'm in a league.
If I'm in a fantasy league, I would drop him.
I've got him and Doug Martin on a bunch of teams.
I'm going to hang on to him for at least one more week.
Six.
Yeah, I'm in a tough spot where I have only one roster spot to play with,
and I have Martin and Rodgers, but I've got to move on from Rodgers
because I'm not going to play him.
Yeah, I don't know if this matters to you, but kind of sneaky.
If Olivier Vernon does not play this week, they're going to struggle against the run.
They haven't been great against the run, and I know he's a defensive end.
He's very good against the run.
And when he left, he left last week late,
and that's when Clement scored a touchdown,
and they ran right at that side.
So Quiz Rogers against the Giants, it's not ideal.
We're not enthused, but I thought I'd bring that up.
J.J. Nelson, drop-o-meter?
Zero.
Zero, zero.
Two.
Yeah, zero.
You're giving a two to J.J. Nelson and a one to...
J.J. Nelson had one good game. Two. Yeah, zero. You're giving a two to J.J. Nelson and a one to... J.J. Nelson had one good game.
No.
He scored each of the first two weeks.
Two targets last night.
Three targets?
Three.
Don't take away his extra target.
He's not real.
I'm not saying that you should drop J.J. Nelson, but he's not undroppable.
He's not some star player that we've got the little asterisk next to his name
that we don't want to drop him.
He also came into the game banged up.
There's a chance he played decoy last night.
Yes.
Paul Perkins.
12 and a half.
15.
Heath's a number higher than 15.
Nine.
Tyrell Williams.
You're going to hang on to him?
Tyrell Williams.
You're going to hang on to Paul Perkins.
It's possible.
Don't hang on to Paul Perkins. So in some scenario, you't hang on to Paul Perkins
In some scenario you're hanging on to Paul Perkins
If I put one at a nine and one at a two
That's not what I'm saying at all
I agree
Tyrell Williams
I want it to work out so bad for him
Ten
You know what
Two
Really
Two You don't believe that But two. Really?
Two.
You don't believe that?
I don't know why I would think that J.J. Nelson is better than Tyrell Williams.
I'll say seven.
That seems like a ridiculous notion to me.
Less mouths to feed.
Less mouths to feed.
That's a good point. If you look at it over a ten-game sample size, when they were both at their best, who's better?
Tyrell, I bet.
Well, that's a good point.
But Tyrell, you have to look at him in 10 games with Keenan Allen.
He's so much better without Keenan Allen.
That's a fair point.
But the only reason J.J. Nelson is really good is because John Brown's not healthy.
Possibly.
Probably, yeah.
Cooper Cup, 0-10.
I actually think he's a decent sleeper this week.
Yeah, I'm not dropping him if Sammy Watkins is right.
If Watkins is out, he is a decent sleeper.
I'll say 2.
And Jeff Steele asks about Corey Davis.
Corey Davis, 0-10.
0.
0.5.
Zero, but his ownership is amazingly low.
Corey Davis, what is it?
It's like in the 50s.
All right, well, he's hurt right now, but we know there's a lot of potential there.
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Tuesday in a little bit. First, your waiver wire, your quarterbacks to pick up.
So Lucknow, Bradford, we don't know.
And Kirk Cousins, maybe you want to look.
Kirk Cousins has Kansas City on Monday and then a bye.
So maybe the Cousins owner wants to be taking a look at the waiver wire.
But Andy Dalton is the head of the class. How much do you trust him at Cleveland this week?
Lots.
Four straight games, though, at least 20 fantasy points.
Against Cleveland?
Against Cleveland.
Browns have allowed multiple touchdowns to every quarterback they've faced this year
in the history of the time.
No, I think at one point they might have played a bad quarterback.
Okay, but just real quick on that.
They gave up 20 fantasy points to Roethlisberger.
Not bad. 18 to Flacco. 29 to Brissette, but he actually quick on that. They gave up 20 fantasy points to Roethlisberger. Not bad.
18 to Flacco.
29 to Brissette, but he actually only threw one touchdown.
He ran for two.
Yeah, Dalton might run for one.
He's done that before.
And I just feel like this is a get-right spot for Cincinnati's offense.
My only concern is, and we saw it happen against Green Bay,
and Dalton had 20 fantasy points.
He had a good day, but just barely.
And it's because he only threw the ball 27 times.
And that's because of that pick six.
They had a lead, and when they have a lead, they want to just run the ball and run the
ball and run the ball.
I expect them to have a lead in this game.
He's going to have to be very efficient to have a good day, and I'm not sure he has the
upside to have a great day.
I have him outside of my top 12, but I agree that he's a good streamer.
Are you guys starting Andy Dalton or Matthew Stafford this week? Stafford's at Minnesota.
Dalton. Dalton. No trust in Stafford this week. I mean, the Vikings have been amazing.
Okay. Jared Goff is a streaming option this week. He has the Cowboys on the road.
We need Sammy Watkins for this to be a start, a sleeper or no?
I do.
Yeah, I wrote in the column that I would take Watson ahead of Goff if Watkins is up.
You would take Watson ahead of Goff.
Okay, Deshaun Watson.
That's our next streamer.
He's up against Tennessee.
They've given up a lot of fantasy points to quarterbacks. I think a lot of it, though, was – well, I mean, it counts – was Russell Wilson.
I'm just – we got Dalton.
We got Jared Goff.
We got Deshaun Watson.
And we have Blake Bortles, the fourth guy in the column here at 21%.
Maybe it's not the best week for quarterbacks.
No, I actually like Watson quite a bit.
Yeah, me too.
I was impressed by, first off,
the Patriots' defense is not good.
But like we said, the one thing you always say
about Belichick is, who's he going to take away?
And there was no taking away
to DeAndre Hopkins.
He was 7 for 8, averaged 9.5 yards
per attempt. The Tennessee Titans
don't take away anybody.
I think he took away the run game.
I think he tried to make Deshaun Watson beat him. Yeah. He didn't take away
Deshaun Watson's run game, though.
No, and that's the nice thing. He's got 100 yards rushing in two
games, two starts. Right. All he has
to do, if he can just average 50
yards a game on the ground, which I think is reasonable,
is he just... That's reasonable?
Yeah. If he runs the ball
seven or eight times a game... Well, I don't know.
60 is reasonable. 50 is reasonable don't know. 60 is reasonable.
I would say 30 is reasonable.
I think he's a lot.
How many quarterbacks in NFL history have averaged 50 yards rushing a game?
That's a lot.
Don't you think that's something that could be game flow dependent for Watson?
That when they're playing from behind and the pressure's on,
he's going to start to try and take things into his own hands.
I would think that happens this week.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tennessee doesn't scare me at all defensively.
And they make a fuller back.
Watson's my favorite streamer.
Over Dalton.
Over Dalton.
Really?
It's the start of three straight home games for Houston, too.
They've got Kansas City at home in week five, and then the Browns in week six.
I'm sorry.
I am not putting my trust in Deshaun Watson.
He's had one game with more than 17 fantasy points.
It was a very good game last week.
He's only had two starts.
50% of his games were more than 17 fantasy points. Okay. That's a good. 50% of his games were more than 17 fantasy points.
Okay, that's a good point.
He had seven fantasy points against Jacksonville.
He actually came in and did all right against Jacksonville.
I forgot he only played a half in that game.
Yeah, I can't do it.
I'm sorry.
I'd probably go with Stafford.
I don't know if I'd go with Stafford over him.
It's pretty low.
You would go with Stafford over him.
I would not.
I wouldn't either.
I'd go Watson over Stafford.
Wow.
I think I'd go Carson Palmer over him. I would too. I wouldn't either. I'd go Watson over Stafford. Wow. I think I'd go Carson Palmer over him.
I would too.
I agree with that.
Palmer's 75% owned.
So for some people, Palmer will be available.
I'll tell you what, if I'm the Cam Newton owner, I'm moving on to Sean Watson right now.
Yep.
Where was Cam on the drop-o-meter, gentlemen?
He's in the drop list for Jamie.
But I would take Jay Cutler over to Sean Watson.
Cutler against New Orleans.
Yep.
I would too.
I would not. I would take Jay Cutler over to Sean Watson. Cutler against New Orleans. Yep, I would too. I would not.
I would take Watson over Cutler.
Okay, I know Cutler had a horrible game. They played so
badly, but
it's still New Orleans.
It doesn't mean that he's doomed every week.
No, but you know what scares me about Cutler?
Not that he can still get stats.
He could have a Jameis type game where
they get behind,
which is most likely going to happen because their defense is not good,
and he starts getting turnover prone.
Yeah.
That's always the risk with Cutler, for sure.
Right.
Okay, and then Bortles.
Bortles is behind Watson.
He's behind Dalton.
He's behind Cutler.
Cutler or Bortles this week?
Cutler. Cutler. Allortles this week? Cutler.
Cutler.
All right.
So Cutler, 57% owned.
If anybody drops Trevor Simeon, he's got Oakland at home.
What do you think?
Could he have a bounce-back game?
The only guy I'd start him over that we've talked about is Bortles.
I would start Simeon over everybody but Dalton.
Dave, for you, Simeon or Dalton?
And Simeon or Watson?
Dalton, Simeon, Watson.
Where's Cutler?
Simeon or Dalton?
I have Cutler over Simeon right now.
And Palmer's ahead of them.
I'm sorry, what'd you say, Jamie?
I like Simeon a lot this week.
You know who's buried behind all these guys this week for me?
It's Derek Carr.
I don't know where you guys put Derek Carr.
I'm sure you guys didn't like him coming into the week,
but I've got him 22nd among quarterbacks.
I hate the matchup for him.
I have him 22nd week in a row on the road, too.
Terrible track record.
Not playing well.
Where do you guys have cousins this week at Kansas City?
19
for me.
In that range. He's also behind Deshaun Watson.
Okay, so the Cousins,
Stafford, and Carr
owners need to be looking for quarterbacks this week
for sure. Last guy,
they have no running game.
They might be playing against a banged up defense.
More of the front seven.
Any interest in Eli Manning coming off a 28-point game?
Yeah.
Depends if the defense is healthy for Tampa Bay.
But if they don't have Brent Grimes or Levante Davids out, Noah Spence,
is he going to play?
A lot of question marks.
Jamie, you really nailed it.
If several of their starters are out, it's going to make the matchup so much easier for everybody on the Giants,
including the offensive line, and it should put Eli in a position to put up numbers.
I don't know if it's going to do anything for their run game.
No.
It's definitely going to give Eli a chance to get some nice numbers over 30 or so pass attempts.
I ranked Eli based on the players that finished
the game for Tampa Bay last week.
Where do you have him?
I've got him 14th ahead of all the guys we've talked about.
He's like 15th.
Yeah, I've got him 16th.
Manning is 66% over. But I would start Simian over him
still. Me too.
Cutler ahead of Eli? I would put Eli ahead of Cutler.
It's easy to say that Cutler should do well against
the Saints, but it's easy to say that Cutler should do well against the Jets.
I mean, they just looked awful.
They couldn't run the ball at all.
And they gave up on it.
And I don't know how time of possession went in that game.
Oh, they had 27 yards of total offense at the half.
Yeah.
Right.
And I know that Cam is not Cam anymore, and he's not necessarily good,
but are we sure that Cutler is better than Cam?
Because Cam didn't just have a good day against the Saints.
Well, Cam also lost all of his weapons.
I mean, you know, that's a big part of it.
He was also way off target.
I just think Cam might be toast.
His center was out, too.
But this is now three straight road games for the Dolphins.
Not good.
I thought this was a home game.
I'm sorry.
No, they're in London.
Oh, okay, okay.
It's that.
The Dolphins, by the way, had the ball for 23 minutes and 52 seconds against the Jets last week.
Jets had it for more than 36 minutes.
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To the running backs.
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Running backs.
Okay, so LeGarrette Blount could be available in shallower leagues.
Duke Johnson could be available.
He's 69% owned.
He had six catches for 81 yards, only two carries last week.
He did have a rushing touchdown.
He's the bronze version of Chris Thompson.
And which Chris Thompson would you prefer, the Washington version or the Cleveland version?
The Washington, the one that doesn't play in Cleveland.
Okay.
So then here are your priorities at running back. Wendell Smallwood, 17% owned.
Deontay Foreman, Jamal Charles, and Devante Booker.
Alvin Kamara, Elijah McGuire, and Jamal Williams.
And Brandon Oliver, just in case there's a...
That's just an emergency.
Yeah.
No Andre Ellington on the list, huh?
I put him in.
I didn't put it in the ad, guys. I put it in when you're dropping Kern Williams, look No Andre Ellington on the list, huh? I put him in. I didn't put it in the ad guys.
I put it in when you're dropping Kern Williams, look at Andre Ellington.
So, yeah, Foreman.
So Smallwood's obviously the head of the class here.
Foreman, Charles, Kamara, Elijah McGuire, Jamal Williams, Brandon Oliver,
Devante Booker, some of these guys are handcuffs.
I don't know.
Give me your – Jamie, how are you phrasing – how are you framing running backs?
It's obviously not a lot of great starting options for you.
I mean, I think at best, Smallwood is a flex right now.
So you're looking at Foreman taking on more work,
although the snap count doesn't necessarily work in his favor so far,
but he's looked very good at times in the last two games.
Jamal Charles looked great last week.
He's averaging five yards a carry, so that's impressive.
And you would think that the Broncos maybe start to give him a little bit more work.
He's only had about ten touches a game,
but he's looked good in those ten touches.
Dave mentioned it with Ellington.
He's looked like the best Cardinals running back,
but I think that's going to be kind of game flow dependent.
If they're ahead of the 49ers this week, I don't know if Ellington has a bigger role.
And maybe they go back to Kerwin Williams after Chris Johnson's failure.
But it's not the best of weeks like what we had last week.
Who's the best lottery ticket here?
Ellington, Elijah McGuire, one of the Broncos guys, Deontay Foreman.
Can we call Foreman a lottery ticket?
Because if so, I think it's easily him.
He has looked – there's a spark there.
I'm not sure that we're going to see it this year, and it's without a Lamar Miller injury,
but there's something there.
There's definitely something there.
I would put Alvin Kamara right behind him though
As far as long term guys
That you want to stash
I just have a feeling that the Saints are going to
Maybe not turn to Kamara as a full down player
But I think he'll get plenty of
He'll continue to get plenty of work
He hasn't really gotten a lot of carries
I think that can go up
Adrian Peterson just is wasting time in that backfield
Mark Ingram is really good.
I think the coach is like Kamara.
Okay.
All right.
Drop list, Thomas Rawls, Paul Perkins, Kerwin Williams, all pretty droppable.
So we have to talk about wide receivers.
Hold on a second, Adam.
Hold on.
Would you pick up Thomas Rawls if you saw him on your waiver wire?
For me, only if I own Chris Carson.
My answer is no.
If I own Carson, I would.
Maybe. Maybe. I would Carson, I would. Maybe.
Maybe.
I would, too.
I would definitely take Smallwood over him.
And I think I'd consider the other two that we talked about just now,
Kamara and Foreman, over him, too.
So he's kind of hit the end of the line here.
Heath, let me tell you something.
Our Heath-dom team is good.
We're going to be in good shape.
Oh, yeah.
We had a rousing victory this week thanks to Chris Johnson for being awful.
We're in good shape.
We got Chris Carson.
I am happy about it.
We made a sly trade last week for Chris Carson, giving up Lamar Miller,
and I think we got a better wide receiver in return, if I recall.
We are the lowest scoring team in the league by more than 10%.
I don't care.
Things are looking up. Arrows pointing
up. We scored 211
points in three weeks.
Yeah, but
we don't have any kickers.
Or quarterbacks.
Or quarterbacks. That is true.
But nobody needs a quarterback these days.
Team name Tuesday real quick here.
Turned Birkhead and Goff.
That's clever.
Excellent.
I wentz because it earths.
I think that's like I wintz.
It's actually good.
Yeah.
I didn't get that at first.
But I guess I should have.
I probably didn't have to explain that.
Zeke and Julio down by the schoolyard.
Any chance to say. Any chance to sing.
Any chance to sing.
But I feel like, do you guys know that song yet?
Yes.
Okay, good.
Because previously it was a mystery to some of the FFT members.
And this is a good one.
Boyd where prohibited.
It's funny.
Okay.
The winner is the first one.
Turned Burkhead and Goff?
Yeah.
Wide receivers.
The winner, by the way, is all of our listeners for having a team name Tuesday.
But wide receivers.
All right.
Willie Sneed's 84% owned.
Alan Hearns is 76% owned.
You can check for them.
Do you like Rashard Matthews better than Willie Sneed and or Alan Hearns?
No, but it's close.
Yes.
Does he have staying power?
Can he do this all year?
Yes for this week.
No for long term because if Davis does come back, he'll be the best receiver.
All right.
Marquise Lee, number two for Jamie after Rashard Matthews.
He's 65% on.
Then Marquise Lee is 50% for Jamie after Rashard Matthews. He's 65% on. Then Marquise Lee is 50% on.
Josh Doxon.
Look, if they're not happy with Terrell Pryor, maybe Doxon starts getting more work.
He had just one catch.
It was a 52-yard touchdown.
It was a great catch against the Raiders.
Will Fuller is 6% on.
Is Will Fuller going to play this week?
He's looking like it.
That's what Bill O'Brien said.
Makes Deshaun Watson better.
Yeah, Deshaun Watson's going to be so good.
All right, there are a lot of names here.
There's Rashard Matthews, Marquise Lee, Doxon, Fuller, Sterling Shepard,
Paul Richardson, Kenny Britt, Jeronimo Allison, Devin Funchess,
Taylor Gabriel, Robert Woods, Robbie Anderson, Jeron Brown.
Dave, as you look at this list,
who's got the potential to be fairly consistent,
reliable for fantasy owners?
For me, it's Sterling Shepard, who I think has become the number two receiver for the Giants.
Brandon Marshall just hasn't played well.
I think Eli's recognized it.
Furthermore, this is a nice, easy target.
Within 10 yards for Eli to hang on.
When he drops back, there's a second and a half. Oops,
there's a defender in my face. I better throw it to the hot read, and that can be Shepard.
I think that he's going to continue to be very good value as a third receiver in PPR leagues.
Could work his way there for standard leagues, too. Don't forget that he caught eight touchdowns
last year, and he had a big play last week. So he's got all sorts of great talent.
Yeah, and he should have had two touchdowns last week.
He dropped an easy one.
He was also inches short of one.
By the way, I don't think the Eagles had a sack against the Giants.
They changed their offense.
They are now, they've gone back to get the ball out really quickly,
short passes, slants, and that's probably a Shepard thing, right, Dave?
That's better for Shepard than Marshall.
Absolutely. They should never run the ball again.
Probably not.
He's the running game. Just don't ever run it.
Like, Lucas just got maddened for the first time
this year. He's trying to understand
why anyone would ever do a running play.
He's like, I don't understand.
If you get so many more yards
on pass plays, per pass play,
why wouldn't you just throw it every time?
It's not a bad point.
It's not a bad point.
Two games to share already for Shepard with seven catches.
Nice.
He's 55% on.
How good could Paul –
One of those games, though, Beckham didn't play.
One of those, Beckham did play, and he had 133 yards and a touchdown.
Yeah.
How good could Paul Richardson be or Tyler Lockett against the Colts this week
at home if Doug Baldwin is out?
This week at home, they could be very good.
I have trouble with both of these guys on a season-long basis because they've been so inconsistent.
I don't expect this to be a long-term injury for Baldwin.
And if you're needing one receiver in a deep league, they're a fine option.
Although Vontae Davis is expected to return,
and Davis would probably match up with either Richardson or Lockett.
Geronimo Allison, Jamie, 13% owed.
You had that stat about him earlier today, earlier on today's show.
But it's a quick turnaround.
They got a Thursday game, home against Chicago,
so it's going to be tough for Cobb to get back.
Would Allison be a top 30 receiver this week?
If Cobb is out, he's in the conversation, yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Will Fuller, Josh Doxson.
Which one of these talented young players has the best chance to hit long term?
Doxson.
I'd say Doxson.
I agree.
And what's your interest level in Jerron Brown at 5% owned against the –
no, not the Niners this week.
Who do they have this week?
I'm sorry.
Yeah, he does have the Niners.
Oh, it is the Niners.
I keep getting the Seahawks matchup and the Cardinals matchup confused.
Yeah, it's the Niners at home for Jerron Brown.
I don't mind the matchup.
I kind of feel like you've got to be in a pinch to trust Jaron Brown in your fantasy league.
He's a much better stack.
Yeah, he looks pretty good out there.
Should have had two touchdowns.
Yep.
That's another one with almost two touchdowns.
I don't.
In our IDP league, it's a really deep league.
We have like 28-man rosters or something.
I have Devin Funchess.
He's been so bad, but there's going to be targets.
You know, like, there's got to be something.
But he only catches about half of them.
I know.
Like, that's his thing.
That's his hang-up.
At New England, though, you feel like there should be some opportunity for Funchess.
But he's not that good.
Oh, yeah.
I agree.
I expect him to get 10-plus targets, which means 5-plus catches.
But I don't know.
He's got to get in the end zone.
He does.
That'd be nice.
All right, tight ends.
Tight ends.
We got kind of an interesting list here.
Cameron Brait.
He had a touchdown at Minnesota.
Why is Cameron Brait number one for Jamie?
Because he's facing the Giants.
They've been awful against tight ends.
But I don't know.
I'm sorry, Jamie.
Would you rather have Brait or Clay? Are you going to change that? Are you going to make Clay number one? Giants, they've been awful against tight ends. But I don't know. I'm sorry, Jamie.
Would you rather have Bray or Klay?
Are you going to change that?
Are you going to make Klay number one?
Yeah, I'll make Klay number one.
All right.
So Charles Klay is our number one waiver wire tight end.
Great if you're just streaming for this week, though, because I do think Bray's situation is great. Yeah.
Really?
They're both top 12 tight ends this week, but I like Bray better, too.
Okay.
Because of the track record of this Giants defense.
And they're banged up.
We did say, though, Clay has the second most targets
on the bills behind the Sean McCoys
at Atlanta.
I could maybe put Bray ahead of
Clay in a standard league
just because of maybe a higher touchdown chance
against the Giants who always give up a touchdown to a tight end.
In PPR, I'd still rather start Clay this week.
Ben Watson, three.
He's 41% owned.
He had very few targets.
Three catches, 12 yards, and a touchdown at Jacksonville in London.
He's got the Steelers this week.
Ryan Griffin is 1% owned.
He missed week two with a concussion.
He came back in week three and had five catches for 61 yards
and a touchdown on six targets.
And Tennessee, they were horrible against Seattle tight ends last week.
So Ryan Griffin's there, Austin Safarian Jenkins, Evan Ingram,
Vernon Davis, David Njoku, Mercedes Lewis.
How about this hot take?
If Jordan Reed is out this week, I'd take Vernon Davis over all these guys.
All of them
but Clay for me.
Maybe even over
Clay.
I would put him behind
Clay and Bray for this week.
I don't think we should sleep on Ryan Griffin as
more than just a one-week option.
If you look at what he and C.J. Fedorowicz
did last year,
which part of it was Brock Osweiler,
but Griffin's first big game back, Watson was targeting him.
Fedorowicz isn't going to be back until at least midseason, if at all.
Griffin's the guy.
And right now, the second best option in the offense.
So anything else, Dave?
Anybody you want to highlight here?
Watson, Ingram, Njoku?
Njoku's interesting if you're looking for a stash in a deeper league.
His playing time is only going to go up as the season rolls on.
He's yet to have 30 receiving yards, but Njoku's only 10%.
But you like Evan Ingram better, right?
I think rest of the season it could be pretty close.
Obviously, you're going to see Ingram continue to get four or five catches per game like he's been getting.
So that might make him a little more safe.
Here's a fun question.
Mercedes Lewis is 0% owned.
He just caught three touchdown passes.
What should his ownership percentage be tomorrow?
What should it be or what will it be?
Either one.
His ownership percentage should be zero.
You're not going to...
No.
Like, we have some...
What are you going to do with him?
Really?
At the Jets.
How many times have we seen this last year where we had a guy...
How many times have we seen this last year where Louis gets three touchdown passes?
Not Louis.
Or anybody.
I think the history of guys getting three touchdown passes and doing nothing after that is pretty small.
We saw it like twice last year with tight end.
I mean, Jesse James –
Dwayne Allen did it in a game last year.
Three touchdowns.
Next week he did nothing.
Didn't Jesse James have two in week one?
And then he came back the next week and he did absolutely nothing.
His ownership percentage will be 9% after this week.
That's about right.
That's probably where it should be, right?
Yeah, I think it's probably 10%.
Okay, we'll give him 10.
We'll give him 10.
Are you picking him up in any of your leagues, Heath? There's only one league I'm in where if should be, right? Yeah, I think it's probably 10%. Okay, we'll give him 10%. We'll give him 10%.
Are you picking him up in any of your leagues, Heath?
There's only one league I'm in where if he's out there, I'll pick him up.
There's one league I can think of that I would pick him up for sure.
It's the 24-team office league where tight ends get a point and a half per catch.
Let's go to DSTs, guys.
DSTs to stream this week.
We like the Jaguars.
They're 60% on.
They're at the Jets.
The Bengals are at Cleveland.
Deshaun Kizer's thrown seven picks in his last two games.
The Packers have the Bears
on Thursday. Although
Atlanta and Pittsburgh didn't do great, but
the Bears in their one road game,
they gave up a lot of fantasy points
to Tampa Bay. This will be their second road game.
The Falcons have Buffalo.
And I've got one. How about the Lions
at 11%? The Lions
are 11% owned.
They are the number two DST in fantasy right now.
And they're at Minnesota.
And I just don't buy Case Keenum.
I know he was great last week, but I don't buy it.
I think the Lions are pretty sneaky at 11%.
They were fluky last week with how they got their DST production.
Yeah, and I'm not really that excited about them.
They have a good defense, though.
If I want a sneaky, owning less than 12% defense, I'm going to go with the Jets.
Okay.
Let's hope that Bortles becomes Bortles.
Let's hope Bortles Bortles.
Bortles is going to Bortle.
It's a Taylor Swift set.
He's done that, what, once, right?
What's that?
Just one game so far, right?
Yeah.
They get one Bortles and one Bortles.
Bortles and Bortles.
Last week was a Bortles, too.
Like, he does that sometimes also.
Yeah.
He does.
And kickers Blair Walsh, Nick Folk, Phil Dawson, Jake Elliott.
Stupid Jake Elliott.
I hate you, Jake Elliott.
Wow.
A little editorial comment.
Your team's 3-0.
Falcons.
Best concession prices in major sports.
I'm a Falcons fan now.
Sorry, Falcons fans.
That's going to do it for Fantasy Football today here,
our Tuesday Waiver Wire show.
Hope it was helpful.
Good luck to you out there.
Tomorrow we do some trade talk and find out.
Well, I'm going to air
the Matt Forte interview
on Saturday
after the mailbag.
So I won't tell you
which pizza he prefers,
but it better be New York.
For Dave, Heath, and Jamie,
I'm Adam.
See you later.
Bye.