Fantasy Football Today - 09/26: Overpay for RBs? Plus MIN-LAR and Regulators! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 26, 2018

Let's talk trade! After a brief Waiver Wire recap, we discuss the idea of overpaying for RBs (5:30) and give some buy low (10:40) and sell high (15:24) candidates. See what the Rob Gronkowski owner wi...ll take for Gronk, and now is the time to sell a couple of aging RBs ... James Conner vs. Le'Veon Bell (18:16) rest of season, players who still have a chance to be great in 2018 (23:16), Fantasy Regulators Part One (29:05) and a MIN-LAR preview (30:23). Which QB do we like better? Can you trust the DSTs? ... We talk about handcuffing non-RBs (39:00), "Buy Low or Heck No" (43:14) and "Sell High or No Thanks, Guy" (46:40) plus more Fantasy Regulators (51:51) to end the show! ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Wednesday's show, best show of the week.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Hope the listeners are excited about the Wednesday shows, as I am. And also the Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday shows. Welcome everybody to Fantasy Football Today on September 26th. I am Adam Azer. He is Heath Cummings. Hi, Heath Cummings. Hi. And he is Jamie Eisenberg.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Hello, Jamie. Hello, Adam. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of the talking today. I mean, you just said hello. Do you want us to say hello? Yeah, expand. How was your night? It was long.
Starting point is 00:00:48 How was your night? I watched The Voice. I never watched The Voice. It was fun. Was that by your choice or your wife's? Yeah, we were just hanging out. Watched The Voice. Nice.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I don't ever watch The Voice either. I watched it for one season when my cousin's boyfriend was a contestant. I remember that. But actually what we did was we turned around and we looked at the wall while they were performing. And then we turned around if we liked them. I mean, your dad jokes are getting worse and worse. Hey, I made a big mistake on yesterday's show. I have to correct it.
Starting point is 00:01:18 But we will recap The Waver Wire a little bit. We'll do a buy low, sell high segment, of course. A lot of that. Buy low, heck no. Sell high, no thanks, guy. We still haven't found a little bit. We'll do a buy low, sell high segment, of course. A lot of that. Buy low, heck no. Sell high, no thanks, guy. We still haven't found a better name. I asked them at about the hour mark of yesterday's show, who would you rather have rest of season, James Conner or Le'Veon Bell?
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Starting point is 00:02:41 I got to let this guy go? There was no one really like that for me, I don't believe. I wanted to hold on to Chris Hogan for one more week just in case Josh Gordon didn't play, and that was probably the one. But I think I picked up Mike Williams, so it wasn't like a, oh, no, scenario. I saw you dropped Andrew Luck in a couple leagues. I was surprised. A couple leagues?
Starting point is 00:03:08 I dropped him in one league. Yeah, I mean, to sit here in week four and say I dropped Andrew Luck for Andy Dalton is crazy, you know, just thinking about preseason. But I had to do it. I'm starting Dalton over Luck this week. I got Cam on a bye, and that's the other thing. I have Cam. So I guess I felt okay letting luck go. You got to do what you got to do.
Starting point is 00:03:26 You got to win some games. And then for us, Heath, I think we dropped Rex Burkhead in our shared league for O.J. Howard. We have Jordan Reed on a bye, and tight ends is terrible. So we had to do it. We had to drop Burkhead. Yeah, I still think I probably would have preferred to drop Mack But I wasn't I don't feel good about dropping either of them It's a 10-team league, so it's a little bit different
Starting point is 00:03:51 A large majority of my leagues, I didn't get anyone on waivers this week And several of them, it was because I have teams where T.Y. Hilton's my number three receiver And it's hard for me to go drop a backup running back so that I can pick up Mike Williams. So how are we feeling about if we went zero RB? Because right now, I think the theme, when you look at waiver wire every Tuesday night, it's not that hard to find wide receivers. It's really hard to find running backs. It's not that hard to find wide receivers. It's really hard to find running backs.
Starting point is 00:04:26 It's not that hard to find quarterbacks. It's impossible to find tight ends. If you were doing it over again, is zero RB a good strategy? It depends on which running backs you got. Yeah, it's all contingent on that. And it's also, look, I guess for the most part, right, I'm just thinking off the top of my head, the first-round receivers have been good, right?
Starting point is 00:04:51 Yeah. There hasn't been, like, a terrible one. I mean, you've had some bad Julio Jones. Technically, there were only two first-round wide receivers this year. First two-round guys. I mean, they've all been good. Pretty exceptional, except for maybe Hilton. Hilton, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:04 But he was one of the third ones. He caught a touchdown in weeks one and two. But he had – okay, he's been fine. Yeah, he's been fine. I think it comes down to – yeah, it's that running back group. We had an interesting conversation on FFT yesterday. We did a segment about trades, and Dave was talking about buying low on Amari Cooper and Alan Robinson. I said to him,
Starting point is 00:05:29 unless you're trading as part of a package, you're never going to, at least right now, you're not going to give up running back value for those receivers. I think that's the problem right now. If you invested in some of these
Starting point is 00:05:44 receivers in that round three to five range, Demarius, Robinson, Cooper, I don't know who I'm overlooking. Fitzgerald, yeah. That's been a rough range of wide receiver for sure. Right. I can't imagine that someone is going to say, okay, I will give you Philip Lindsay for Amari Cooper at this point, when you could just go to your waiver wire and find Tyler Boyd, who probably does not finish better than Amari Cooper, but probably does not finish dramatically behind him.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I do think this is shaped a little bit by this week's waiver wire. But it's been three weeks of this, though. Well, we had the Gio Bernard week. He was available in 60% of leagues. Phillip Lindsey is somebody. Alston Eckler is somebody. The guys that were available in more than half of leagues the first two weeks of the year. This week, there were just no running backs. Right. And
Starting point is 00:06:39 if you look, even try to project it out, though, like, Ronald Jones is available. So maybe they make that switch. And there are going to be some people that drop Rashad Penny and Chubb, CJ Anderson if something happens to McCaffrey. But for the most part, though, there's not someone that is – I just don't see some scenario right now. I mean, look, Spencer Ware could become viable. Malcolm Brown could become viable. There's always that situation.
Starting point is 00:07:09 But just without an injury. You know who I think it is? I think it could be – well, I've been saying this since preseason, but I think it could be Marlon Mack. I think he's got a chance. You think he's getting dropped? Oh, yes. I think he's – well, he's available in some leagues.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I think he could be picked up. Yeah, I guess if we're expanding it to 10 team leagues there there is a little bit of a a pool available to but you're right i mean and that's the thing and i feel like we talk about this every year it's like overpaying for running back and if we think the passing numbers are i haven't really looked but i'm sure they're kind of crazy out of whack right now you know know, like guys are throwing a lot and throwing for a ton of yards. It's just been a very prolific year offensively. And one of the reasons why you go zero RB is because maybe you don't know who's going to be, who the good running backs are going to be at the beginning of the year. But after a few weeks, you get some clarity. And so, I don't know. If you've established who you like at running back,
Starting point is 00:08:06 overpay. You know, maybe give up. Somebody said, it was like Brandon Cooks for Dalvin Cook. We'd all do that. Would you give up Brandon Cooks for Dalvin Cook? Yes. On most teams. I mean, I do think... Overpay because you can fill in the gap at
Starting point is 00:08:22 wide receiver. You can't do it at running back. It just depends on, like, I think it depends on what you've got on your roster. Because, like, I have teams. I was just looking at one of the zero running back teams I drafted. And I ended up with Carlos Hyde, Isaiah Crowell, Sonny Michelle, Dion Lewis. I feel pretty good about that core. If you have great wide receivers, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:43 You could get by with that. And that's a T.Y. where's he that's with antonio brown tyreek hill and ty hilton and you do not have a fourth receiver you do i've got quentin in one okay so if you could turn ty hilton into dalvin cook would you do that i think i probably would on that team yeah yeah so there see that's the type of trade for a team like this that you should make. But again, I don't think anybody's going to give you value for the guys that are not playing well right now. Like Hilton's in a good spot because he's, I would hope, still has a higher ceiling to get to. It's more along the lines of you're not giving up. What do you think it would take right now to get Demarius Thomas from a running back trade?
Starting point is 00:09:27 Rex Burkhead? I don't even want Demarius Thomas. Okay, Cooper or Robinson. Yeah, that's a good... Yeah, so why would you trade a running back? If anything... So I know quarterback is really deep. I get that. But there's probably a team or two in your league that really needs a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Los Garoppolo, a lot of owners have two quarterbacks. In our podcast league, I was offered, I'm not going to do it, but I was offered Mike Williams for Le'Veon Bell. And I know what the owner is trying to do, you know, take advantage of my receivers are not that good. But it's not something that I'm going to trade because next week it's Christian Kirk. You know what I mean? It's Cortland Sutton.
Starting point is 00:10:09 It's somebody that's going to find some value at that position that you just sort of pivot week to week to week. Whereas the running backs, you just almost have to, in the bad ones, ride it out. In the injury situations with Mixon and Cook and these other guys, and the ones that aren't playing very well, it's hard to say Royce Freeman's trustworthy or Jamal Williams now is trustworthy. You just have to
Starting point is 00:10:34 ride out those situations, but the receivers, you can move on to other guys. The problem is you can't drop the ones that aren't playing well. Let's talk buy low, sell high. Kick it off. Heath, give me a buy low candidate. Of all those receivers that Jamie was talking about from the show, there is one that I do think is a buy low, and it's Allen Robinson.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I do think Allen Robinson, if his perception is anywhere close, perceived value is anywhere close to the Demarius Thomas, Amari Cooper group, he's the one I feel more confident in. If I could trade my number four or five running back to a team that had Robinson and wasn't really using him, I'd be happy to do that. I'm so discouraged by Mitchell Trubisky. He's frustrating, man. He's not very good.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Jared Goff kind of threw off the perception of what a new offense means for a young quarterback. It used to be conventional wisdom that it was bad for young quarterbacks to change offensive coordinators. We saw it with Matt Ryan. We saw it with Alex Smith a long, long time ago. He had like three offensive coordinators in his first three years and was just awful.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And I think there's a chance there's just an adjustment period for Trubisky. We see it with the Bears. They are very good on the first drive of the game, the plays they've been practicing all week. They get into the in-game decision-making, and they're struggling a little bit. That's a good point. Yeah. All right, Robinson, for Heath, Jamie, Bilo.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I give you two on the same team, Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski. Yeah. Gronk was my guy. I mean, I don't know that any fantasy analyst or anybody who's a fantasy veteran is panicking on Gronk, but there will be people out there who are. And it's really just a matter of tight end being really bad this year. Olsen's out. I forgot to mention, Jamie picked up Greg Olsen in a league. I also put a claim in for him in that league. Olsen's 61% owned. He's making good progress. It might be a guy
Starting point is 00:12:19 that you want to stash. I also was the one who drafted him and dropped him. Oh. But Olsen's out. Walker's out. Ingram's hurt. Burton's been pretty bad. George Kittle might be useless now. If you can buy low on Gronk.
Starting point is 00:12:37 So the way you have to approach trading for Gronk is you have to have like Kyle Rudolph or Eric Ebron or, I mean, you can't consider Kittle at this point but some tight end who's playing well that's in a tier below him or in some cases a couple tiers below him and package that tight end with another player. So like if you know you have one of these
Starting point is 00:12:58 young receivers that are playing over their head and somebody doesn't have good receivers or you want to take a chance on giving up if you have running back depth you're not going to get one for one with gronk unless you're giving a star i think the interesting question is if you have kelsey or urts a would you trade either of those guys for gronk and because i think any a lot of gronk owners would take it oh i'm sure the gronk owners would no i don't think you should because if this is the the fall off here for this offense you know kelsey's Kelsey's just been amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And Ertz, we haven't seen the best of him yet because you're just getting Wentz back. What Chris Gronkowski, Rob's brother, said is that I can just tell by his emotions, his facial features, that he's super frustrated with it. You can see at the end of the game how they ended the game double-covering him, pressing him off the line. He just wants to get the ball in his hands and make plays, but you just can't do it when no one else is getting open. Yeah, I mean, the best of that passing game is still to come.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Right. I mean, he said that they're double-teaming Gronk. Nobody else is winning. Well, they're about to get Edelman back. They're about to get Josh Gordon back. It's going to help. I think there should be a bet between the two of you. What?
Starting point is 00:14:02 Rest of season, who's better, including what Larry Fitzgerald has done, Julian Edelman or Larry Fitzgerald? I mean, I think it's going to be – oh, including what he's done? Yes. I mean, I'm still pretty – I'm pretty confident in Edelman in that one. I'd still take Fitz. Wow. Like what about not including what Fitz has done?
Starting point is 00:14:21 I mean, he hasn't done anything. You should just throw it in as a bonus. Yeah, it's not much. All right, and then I want to give a deep league or – I don't know, a deep league. He's 86% owned, and I do think he could be droppable. But Corey Davis, nobody's excited about him. But the circumstances haven't been very good for him. Mariota's been hurt. He's faced Miami, who we expect to be good against wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:14:46 He's faced Houston, and he's faced Jacksonville. I just think he's going to completely dominate targets on that team. Nobody wants Corey Davis right now. He was dropped in several leagues that I'm in. I'm not saying you have to rush to pick him up, but if you're in a league where a guy like Corey Davis needs to be
Starting point is 00:15:01 owned, like a 14-team league, I feel like he could be surprisingly useful, kind of like a Devin Funchess light. Totally agree. Get the tackles healthy. Get him feeling back in Mariota's fingers. If that happens, that's the concern for me.
Starting point is 00:15:18 It's not really Corey Davis at this point. It's the circumstances around Corey Davis. All right. Let's go to sell-high candidates. Heath, give me a sell-high. I think we both want to say the same guy. I'll let Jamie have him. I'll say the other old running back, Marshawn Lynch. It's kind of the same premise,
Starting point is 00:15:35 and you don't know who Jamie's going to say yet, but I don't know how confident I feel in Lynch's, at his age, ability to hold up over the full season, and his production has been kind of saved by touchdowns. I don't know that you can count on that on a week-to-week basis. Right now, he's the number 12 running back in non-PPR leagues. This is a guy that is probably the fourth running back on your team. If you can trade him for, package him as part of a deal to get a good elite wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I'd do it. He's actually 14th in PPR, Marshawn Lynch, which surprised me. He hasn't been totally useless in the passing game. No, he's got seven passes, yeah. It's not great, but it's not nothing. All right, so Marshawn Lynch for Heath. Jamie? I guess the free space is Adrian Peterson.
Starting point is 00:16:23 You're probably going to get another good game coming into week five because he'll be rested. He's already in a walking boot. Look, we saw it last year. He couldn't make it through the season. Circumstances are completely different because he was traded from one team to the next and had to learn
Starting point is 00:16:40 new offense, all those things. These guys just break down. I'm hopeful that he can still be productive over 16 games, but if I had to bet, I'd bet against it. So while his value is
Starting point is 00:16:55 two of three amazing games, you should try and see if you can flip him, especially since you don't need him this week. Adrian Peterson. Alright, that will do it for now for Buy Low and Sell High, but you better believe we have a lot more coming up. I got a tweet this morning, and it's so funny. It's from Mike.
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Starting point is 00:18:10 Get the best results. Get the best prices. And use the promo code FFT for $20 off your first purchase. Who would you rather have rest of season, guys? James Conner or Le'Veon Bell? Conner. Conner. At this point, what do you expect
Starting point is 00:18:26 from Le'Veon Bell? I'm getting more pessimistic every second. At this point, I hope they trade him. Yeah, that'd be nice. What's the market for him? What's the value for fantasy owners? What would you look for if you had Bell
Starting point is 00:18:41 and what would you do? I'm not trading anything that I'm using right now for Le'Veon Bell. So I offered the James Conner owner in the one league where I have Bell and I don't have Conner. I offered him Bell for Carlos Hyde in PPR. So I'm just trying to get somebody that can do something for my roster, and I understand if he wouldn't do it. Oh, yeah, I'd take Hyden to hurt me.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Wow. And I made a stupid trade in another league, which I'll regret. Idiot, moron trade. I traded Mark Ingram and Will Fuller. This was two weeks ago for Bell and Michael Crabtree with the hope that by the time Ingram is back, including their bye week, that Ingram would have that – sorry, by the time Ingram is back, including their bye week, that Bell would report by then based Sorry, by the time Ingram is back, including their bye week,
Starting point is 00:19:29 that Bell would report by then based on the reports of him coming at the end of the month. And that's not going to happen. So I regret that trade. I just wonder, like, I think it's within the realm of possibility. And this wasn't something that I was factoring in because we don't have any answer as to what's going to happen. But I hadn't really considered until last week the possibility of Le'Veon Bell is just not helping your team this year. He may not play. I think it's possible he comes back week 10 and James Connors got 900 yards rushing
Starting point is 00:19:54 and they just use Bell in a limited fashion. Or don't play him at all. Or I think what would be worse is if they give both of them work and you'd have two flex running backs. Well, I mean, look, as the Bell owner, you would take anything. You would take anything, yeah. But, I mean, for Connor, if he holds
Starting point is 00:20:14 out for even eight weeks or something, I don't think it would be right to just throw him back in there and not give James Connor any work, you know, assuming Connor's healthy. The one thing I will say that if your team is 3-0 right now and you have a bunch of parts, see if you can get Bell cheap. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Just in case he does come back Week 10 and is the guy we all know he can be. Yeah. Because that's a league winner for you. Or if he gets traded to another team. Or if he gets traded to another team. So if you could get him for nothing, you should absolutely try and do so. Let's do the news and notes. Now, the trades I referenced in our podcast league, I have
Starting point is 00:20:46 Connor, so I'm just going to wait it out. Alright, let's do the news and notes. Minnesota defensive end Everson Griffin having a mental health evaluation. Really good player. Hope everything is okay there with him. They've got the Thursday night game. Going to be some injuries on defense in that Thursday night game. Might be high scoring, hopefully fun.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Saints cornerback Patrick Robinson is on IR with an ankle injury They're at the Giants this week And Heath picked up Eli Manning in the league That must have just crushed him Darren Sproles could play this week Darren Sproles I think I picked him up in one PPR league
Starting point is 00:21:19 Do you think he could be a useful starter this week, Sproles? I doubt he'd be a useful I mean, he could be a useful flex in a PPR league that starts three-way receivers, I guess. Yeah, I think exactly what I picked him up in, if I got him. Is he playing? Could. They seemed to be optimistic
Starting point is 00:21:35 yesterday about Sproles. So, anyway. Actually, okay, Doug Peterson expects Jay Ajayi and Darren Sproles to practice this week. That's what I'm seeing right now. Anyway, Chris Conte for the Bucs. Why can't I get anybody's team right today?
Starting point is 00:21:53 He's the safety. He's on IR with a knee injury. Also just ashamed of getting stiff-armed by Vance McDonald. That was him, right? Yeah. Houston wide receiver Bruce Ellington is on IR with a hamstring injury. Sean Lee will not play this week. Carry on, my wayward son.
Starting point is 00:22:11 And do you expect the following players? Leonard Fournette at the Jets? Yes. LaShawn McCoy at Green Bay? No. No. Dalvin Cook on Thursday? No.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Joe Mixon at Atlanta No Devontae Freeman in that game No Jack Doyle against Houston No Marlon Mack against Houston Who knows Jay Ajayi at Tennessee
Starting point is 00:22:37 You just said so Yeah, good chance That would be nice for me Darren Sproul, same thing Alshon Jeffery, probably not, right? No. Josh Gordon against Miami. I'll say yes, but who knows.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Matt Breida at the Chargers. Same. Rex Burkhead against Miami. Nope. They just re-signed Kenyon Barner. So you know the rules, typically what happens. Bring up a guy from the practice squad or sign somebody else, you're probably looking
Starting point is 00:23:07 at an injury absence. Alright, we can preview the game in just a little bit. Let me ask you about a few players and tell me if you think they could be great rest of the season. Just, can they be great? We were hoping when we drafted them that they had a chance to be great for us. Can they be great?
Starting point is 00:23:24 Alex Collins, can he be great rest of the season? Yeah, he can be great. Absolutely. Okay, now how do you feel about this? His next seven matchups, only one team looks bad against running backs right now. It's a little deceiving. It doesn't look like a great upcoming schedule for Collins. At Pittsburgh, they're sixth against running backs.
Starting point is 00:23:47 At Cleveland, they're 27th. At Tennessee, they're fifth against running backs, but they are pretty bad on a per carry basis. New Orleans, been great against running backs. At Carolina, should probably get better against running backs. And then Pittsburgh, again, sixth against running backs. And then a bye. So do you look at the schedule and get a little nervous about Collins?
Starting point is 00:24:07 It's obviously not the most encouraging situation, but Pittsburgh's a little deceiving. They're not good. They're not good? They've been pretty good against the road. Look who they faced, though. They've given up 4.6 yards per carry. They faced the Chiefs in a game the Chiefs just didn't run.
Starting point is 00:24:22 They faced Peyton Barber, and they faced the Browns in the weather game. They've given up 4.6 yards per carry? No, they've given up 3.6 to running backs. So I think Tyrod Taylor was responsible for that. Yeah, Taylor had 77 yards rushing in the game. I agree with Heath. I don't think that they've been tested yet.
Starting point is 00:24:40 So I wouldn't completely run away from Alex Collins this week. Kareem Hunt's not tested? Well, they didn't run the ball very much. 18 carries for 75 yards. 4.17 yards per carry. If you tell me Alex Collins is getting 18 for 71, that'd be a season high for him. 75. All right, Kenyon Drake.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Can Kenyon Drake be great? Yes. He's a good by-law candidate. Very good by-law candidate. Who do you like better, Drake or Collins? Drake. Very good by-law candidate. Who do you like better, Drake or Collins? Drake. I think I'll go Collins. Can Jay Ajayi be great? Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:13 If he can stay healthy. Get healthy, then stay healthy. Yeah, he also actually looks like he has a pretty tough schedule going forward. Hopefully at Tennessee this week, maybe he can take advantage of that. But then Minnesota. Tennessee, I think, is good. I'm not sure. They're giving up like 4.8 yards per carry to running backs, but they are not giving up a lot of fantasy
Starting point is 00:25:34 points to running backs. 4.7 yards per carry to running backs. Tennessee, Minnesota, at the Giants, not bad. Carolina, at Jacksonville, and then a bye, and then Dallas. And then at New Orleans, and then Giants. It's actually a really tough schedule for a Gi. Just not sure it matters with that offensive line
Starting point is 00:25:51 and if he's going to score touchdowns. That offensive line is going to be better first. Yeah, and just keep in mind, when you're projecting that far out with the schedule, as we see with Dallas, it takes one injury to keep player. Yeah, okay. Just look at the next. I'm not saying you in particular, but if you're judging something for the rest of the season, look three games ahead.
Starting point is 00:26:13 How would you rank Collins, Drake, Ajayi rest of the season? Collins, Drake, Ajayi. Drake, Collins, Ajayi. And Josh Gordon. Can Josh Gordon be great this year? Yes. No player has a wider range of outcomes than Josh Gordon. What do you expect?
Starting point is 00:26:34 It's impossible to expect anything. I mean, he may not get on the field for three weeks. Or he may catch eight balls for 150 yards and three touchdowns this week. It's so true. You're right. Tough one to evaluate. Would you rather have Amari Cooper or Josh Gordon? I mean, just comparing the two guys, I'd rather have Cooper,
Starting point is 00:26:53 but I think I didn't have a need to play either one right away. I'd rather have Gordon. Yes. Gordon's a better stash. Cooper is going to score more in the near future probably. I wanted to say this about Amari Cooper. He's faced the Broncos, Rams, and Dolphins, right? Pretty tough schedule to start the season for him.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Julian Edelman. Do you think Julian Edelman can be great coming back from the ACL? Yes. He could be. I don't think he can be in non-PPR Well no He never has been Yeah he pretty much never has been
Starting point is 00:27:30 Although three years ago 2015 he was on pace to be a top 10 wide receiver In both formats But he was also on pace for 12 touchdowns Which would be pretty surprising Who would you rather have rest of the season Josh Gordon or Julian Edelman Edelman?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Edelman PPR, for sure. All right, let's talk about FanDuel, everybody. You want a chance to win $500, go to FanDuel.com slash FFT. You don't have to necessarily win first place, but a lot of people are getting paid in our weekly contest, FanDuel.com slash FFT. So this is an opportunity to compete against us and to compete against other listeners and to win a little money. And it's only a $5 entry fee, and it's really, really fun. You love fantasy football, so why not play more fantasy football? And why not do it on FanDuel.com? And there are just so many different types of contests. Heath, what are some of the types of contests that you like on FanDuel?
Starting point is 00:28:24 I mostly play tournaments, but the head-to-heads, 50-50s, they're a little safer. You're not going to win big money, but you also have a chance to just double your money, and it's much higher odds of winning. Right. I do that every week. I play a $5 50-50. All you've got to do is finish in the top 50%, and you will double your money. So I'm very excited to play FanDuel every week, and I think you all will be too, and we want you to compete against us at FanDuel.com slash FFT.
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Starting point is 00:29:14 This is from Tim in the loo who says, it's all about the you. And that's how you get on the show, Tim. Dear Eli, Ahmad, Hakeem, and Victor. Wait, this guy was just kissing up to me. Those are Giants receivers. All right, here we go. In the chat room of my fantasy league, I posted asking if anyone had any interest in Ryan Fitzpatrick. One owner pointed out that what Fitzmagic is doing is unsustainable.
Starting point is 00:29:42 While obviously true, I thought pointing it out was a jerk move and an attempt to sabotage my trade attempt. He, on the other hand, thinks it's okay, and I should have expected it because it's a competition. What do you guys think? Yes, it's perfectly fine. Stop whining. Hey, you have to tell him to stop whining.
Starting point is 00:30:00 If he wants to whine to us, he can whine to us. That's what we're here for, Heath. Don't whine. Yeah, that's part of fantasy football. That's friendly trash talk. I'm fine with it. Let it go, Tim, but it is all about the you. All right, that is your Fantasy Regulator segment.
Starting point is 00:30:15 More coming up later. There you go. Had to sing. Thursday night. Thursday night football, Minnesota. Can you do me a favor next time you're going to sing. Thursday night. Thursday night football. Minnesota at the Rams. Can you do me a favor next time you're going to sing? What?
Starting point is 00:30:28 Can you just say to the audience, earmuffs? Earmuffs. Let's talk about this game. Who's going to win? The Rams. Right? What's the spread? Seven?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah. I can't see the Rams losing. Stat of the game. I think I heard something. they covered like 8 straight games They're quite good No wide receiver has more than 64 yards Against the Vikings No wide receiver has more than 64 yards
Starting point is 00:30:55 Against the Vikings How many get More than 64 yards In this game against the Vikings Two And they will be Woods and Cooks 64 yards in this game against the Vikings? Two. And they will be? Woods and Cooks.
Starting point is 00:31:12 All right, we'll start with the Rams. Jared Goff or Kirk Cousins? Who do you prefer? Goff. Goff. How much do you like Jared Goff this week? He's a low-end starter starter There's a streamer or two Or at least one
Starting point is 00:31:27 I'm starting an adult in over him Because I think that's the only streamer Yes, I agree Would you start Goff or Ryan Fitzpatrick? Goff, Fitzpatrick All right, yeah, look Minnesota's got some injuries on defense And Goff has two straight games with 354 passing yards,
Starting point is 00:31:47 but still a very good defense. And he doesn't throw the ball a ton. He is the number nine quarterback in fantasy golf with the 18th most pass attempts. That was what he was last year, too, essentially. Interesting. So he's pretty good. All right, so we're going to start Todd Gurley.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Is Todd Gurley, well, if you're playing Thursday through Sunday, FanDuel lineup, I'm assuming Gurley is the most expensive. Is he worth that? Do you think he has a big game against the Vikings, or do you think he just has a good game? I don't think he'll be as good as Alvin Kamara. I think in non-PPR he'll be better than Kamara. All righty. Neither of the DFS sites are non-PPR he'll be better than Kamara Alrighty
Starting point is 00:32:25 Neither of the DFS sites are non-PPR They're half PPR right? Yes One's half, one's full Right, that's true Okay, so Gurley, he should be fine So, is Cooks the number one Rams receiver for you this week? Yes
Starting point is 00:32:40 Yes And Cup or Woods? Woods Woods So let's talk like flexes against these guys Yes. Yes. And Cup or Woods? Woods. Woods. So let's talk like flexes against these guys. Let's talk about some running backs. How about David Johnson or Robert Woods? David Johnson.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Woods and PPR. Definitely Woods and PPR. I'll start Johnson and Nunn. The Jets are facing the Jaguars. Would you start any Jets running backs over a Rams wide receiver? No. No. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Let me do one more then. Sony, Michelle, or a Rams wide receiver? All three Rams wide receivers. I'll take Michelle over Kup and Nunn PPR with Burkhead not playing. Compare to some wide receivers then. Would you take Robert Woods or Quincy Inunua? I got to go Woods there. Woods.
Starting point is 00:33:29 With the matchup. All right, Robert Woods or Kenny Galladay? Galladay. Woods. Robert Woods or Cooper Cup? Cooper Cup or Sammy Watkins? Watkins. Watkins and non- non PPR I may go
Starting point is 00:33:46 Cup in PPR Alright let's go over to the Minnesota Vikings Or the last question about the Rams Is there any Rams Tight end that interests you The Vikings have struggled They have allowed 90 yards or a touchdown to a tight end In all three games Kato Graham and
Starting point is 00:34:02 Jason Kroon If you were going to play a Rams tight end, it would be Tyler Higby. But what we've seen, and I love this from the Rams, it's made it possible for Kup, Woods, and Cooks to be as good as they are. They've thrown the ball eight times all year to their two tight ends combined. Both of them have four targets on this season. Wow. Okay, great. So let's go to the Vikings now. Kirk Cousins.
Starting point is 00:34:30 How do we feel about him this week? I don't love him, but with Tlaib out and potentially Marcus Peters out, I wouldn't necessarily run away from him. Yeah, the problem is that there are three very good streaming options this week. And so I'm not intentionally benching Kirk Cousins this week,
Starting point is 00:34:52 but I'd rather start Dalton. I'd rather start Eli. I'd rather start Tannehill. It's a tough one to evaluate, I think, because if Tlaib and Peters were playing, and you've got to assume Peters is not going to play. He hasn't been ruled out yet. If they were playing, then I think you can get away from Cousins. The Rams allowed the fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks so far.
Starting point is 00:35:10 But without their starting corners, it's interesting. Plus, we figure he's probably going to be chasing points, right? Yes. I don't know if they can keep – they couldn't block the Bills front last week. I don't know how they're going to block the Rams. Yeah, that's a pretty good point. I'm sorry. You may have said this, but let's – okay, so you start Dalton over Cousins, right?
Starting point is 00:35:34 For sure. Would you start Eli Manning over Cousins? Yes. I don't know if Jamie would. I don't have it ranked that way right now But I probably should Would you start Carson Wentz over Cousins? No I have them back to back right now
Starting point is 00:35:53 I have Wentz one spot higher What would you do about the Minnesota running backs? If Cook plays, I would play him If Cook does not play, I would not play Murray I would consider playing Murray as a low-end number two or a flex. I don't think it'll be as bad as it was last week. Would Cook be ahead of the Jets running backs or Sonny Michel, guys like that, if he plays? He would for me.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Yes, not very much ahead of them. Okay. And then for the pass catchers, you've got to start Kyle Rudolph. Although Heath has him 10th in non-PPR, 11th in PPR. Dave and Jamie have him top six. Kyle Rudolph, I can't imagine you're getting away from Rudolph. Diggs and Thielen, everybody's starting them, right? Yep.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yep. Okay. Heath, give me one or two tight ends that you would start over Rudolph that Jamie and Dave wouldn't. Tyler Eifert. And I assume Jared Cook. Okay. You also have OJ Howard, Eric Ebron.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And Ebron is pretty high up there in the rankings as well. Jamie does have Rudolph ahead of Ebron. Alrighty, that's pretty much it. Oh, the DSTs! How do we feel about the DSTs? Sorry about that. These are two high-end DSTs Are we looking at the Seahawks or the Packers Or the Chargers maybe
Starting point is 00:37:10 Ahead of them I think you could I would rank them ahead of them But practically speaking Actually I don't, the Rams Practically speaking, I am not dropping The Vikings defense And I'm not dropping someone else on my team To create a spot for a second defense, so I'm sticking with both of them.
Starting point is 00:37:30 All right. And we're moving on with a quick round of emails. This one's from Kirk. Kirk wants to know, do you start golf on Thursday versus the Vikings or luck against Houston? Six points for passing touchdown leagues. Luck. Luck. Luck. Brian in Indiana says,
Starting point is 00:37:52 Baltimore is currently number six in points to the tight end position, but those points are split between Max Williams, Mark Andrews, and Nick Boyle. When Hayden Hurst gets healthy, will he get the majority of their ten tight end targets per game? Not his first week back, but I think eventually, yes. That's why Heath liked Hayden Hurst in the preseason so much. Called him a sleeper or a breakout. I don't remember whatever it was. But yeah, desperate for a tight end.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Hayden Hurst might not be, check his ownership percentage, might not be the worst guy to pick up. This is for Nick. Who do you like rest of season, Julio Jones or Juju Smith-Schuster? Still Julio. It's still Julio, but Juju right now is a top six wide receiver, top eight wide receiver. So he's considering giving up Julio Jones and getting Juju
Starting point is 00:38:39 and either Jared Cook or Trey Burton back. Would you do that? If you need a tight end, then yeah. They're close enough that any two for one should swing in your favor. Hayden Hurst, by the way, is 9% owned. Pick them up from Jason. Dear Chris, Rashad, CJ, and Mike. Those are Seahawks running backs.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Oh, yeah, of course. Duh. I picked up Dallas Goddard as a Zach Ertz handcuff. That's interesting. We know Ertz has some injury history, and Trey Burton was a top 12 tight end last year when Ertz was out, which wasn't much. But the tight end waiver wire is horrible. Are there any other non-running back handcuffs you would recommend? Not a guy like Calvin Ridley, he says.
Starting point is 00:39:28 It's an interesting question. That's not a terrible idea in a deeper league. I think Goddard would probably be a must-add if Ertz got hurt. Non-running back handcuff? Yeah, non-running back handcuff. I mean, if you can, as an AJ Green owner, get Tyler Boyd, that's probably a good move. For sure. I think Mike Williams, Sterling Shepard, I guess. Yeah, anything else?
Starting point is 00:39:52 I would really like to get Juju Smith-Schuster as the Antonio Brown owner. Wouldn't you rather get the Brown to handcuff Juju? Is there a Saints wide receiver? Or just that would be... It's probably Cameron Meredith, really. He won't do anything close to what Thomas does, but if Thomas goes out, Meredith's going to be a starter, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I mean, maybe it's Trey Quinsmith. All right. And then this is from A Man Has No Name. Can we please get Game of Thrones back already? Dear Lars, James, Jason, and Kirk. You hear Lars, it's Metallica Just Metallica Who is the Rams backup running back?
Starting point is 00:40:29 John Kelly or Malcolm Brown? Has to be Malcolm Brown John Kelly's been inactive From Joseph What do I do with Deion Lewis? Is he droppable? Or what's the best trade you could think you could get for Deion Lewis? What do I do with Deion Lewis?
Starting point is 00:40:44 Be patient I mean in 10 team trade you could think you could get for Deion Lewis? What do I do with Deion Lewis? Be patient. I mean, in 10-team league, you could drop him if there's, like Chris Carson was available. Something like that. But 12-team leagues are larger now, just to what he said. Yeah. It's surprising that he only has nine catches in three games. He had five for 35 in week one. So it looked like things were going to go great for Deion Lewis.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Depends, I guess. Like, the fact that they're two and one is really surprising. Well, I mean, right now he has one quarterback who can't feel one of his throwing arm. Right. And the other one's Blaine Gabbert. Right. It's like. It may not be.
Starting point is 00:41:21 They signed a quarterback yesterday, right? I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure they did. And it's not like we expected them to win their last two games against Houston and at Jacksonville. So I feel like he's going to be better than Derrick Henry this year, guys. I mean, he could be. It's funny, though, because if you were to say Henry's getting 18 carries a week, you'd sign up for that all day. Well, he blew that 14-carry thing out of the water, didn't he?
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Starting point is 00:43:01 all types of styles. Everything's very, very comfortable, and you're going to really, really like it. TommyJohn.com slash FFT for 20% off plus free shipping and free returns on all dress shirts. TommyJohn.com slash FFT. Back to the trade talk. Let's do some buy low or heck no. Would you buy low or heck no on Larry Fitzgerald? Yes, in PPR. Buy low.
Starting point is 00:43:24 On Jimmy Graham. yes in ppr by low on jimmy graham but i i think fitzgerald is is along the lines of what we were talking about earlier it's got to be some sort of package deal you're not giving up running back value for fitzgerald uh yes by law on jimmy graham why i still think there's touchdown potential here plenty of it and look he's uh he's still playing with arguably the best quarterback in the NFL. I don't think he's done. He's a tight end with 15 targets in the last two weeks. That is true. He unfortunately has only one red zone target.
Starting point is 00:43:57 That's tied for fourth on Green Bay, but there's only one pass catcher on the Packers with more than three red zone targets. That's Devontae Adams. I believe he has seven, which is great to see. Rodgers falls in love with guys in the red zone. Right now it's Devontae Adams. Would you rather have Graham or Kyle Rudolph rest of season? Rudolph.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I think I'll still say Graham. Graham or Ebron? Graham. Graham. Graham. Russell Wilson, B low or heck no Buy low Yeah, I think I'm
Starting point is 00:44:33 I'm out on this one I mean we could just sit here and say buy low for all these guys Because they're underperforming But like if you're buying low You're hoping that they Get back to the production you expected when you drafted them and i mean i don't really expect that for fitzgerald because they're terrible but there's a change though we've yeah we need to see this office with josh rosen i guess but yeah i would like yes we do my problem with wilson is he's got seven rush attempts in three weeks for 21 yards.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I know, yeah. He can't do it just as a passer. But his best receiver will hopefully be back soon. And so I think that changes a little bit of what it is for the offense. And I still think this is a defense that's improving but still struggling. And he's going to have to start to take on a little bit of a heavier responsibility, which will include some running. He's gotten off to slow starts before Russell Wilson,
Starting point is 00:45:29 but it's the lack of rushing that really jumps out, and you wonder when it's going to happen. It might happen. I think it was Cam Newton at one point was not running. It might have been last year. It was last year when he said a lion has to be a lion. Yeah, I'm running. Jamal Williams, buy low or heck no?
Starting point is 00:45:48 I mean, he's a running back in a dominant offense. I'm probably going to say the same thing on all these guys. If you can get them cheap, it's worth the attempt. But I certainly understand the lack of wanting to give up some value in return. I think Dave dropped in one of our leagues. I don't know which one it was, and I was surprised to see that. Are you going to pick him up, Jamal Williams? It may be one of our 10-team leagues.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I'm not sure. I'll have to go back through and look at it. So if that's the case, probably not, but a 12-team league, for sure. What about Aaron Jones? Who would you rather have, Jones or Williams? I'll say Jones. Jones seems to have the higher ceiling right now. I just feel like we haven't seen the best of what this running attack could be, I'll say Jones. Jones seems to have the higher ceiling right now.
Starting point is 00:46:29 I just feel like we haven't seen the best of what this running attack could be from whoever it may be. And so Williams is still going to play more, so I'm still inclined to say Williams. Sell high or no thanks, guy? I was going to say Adrian Peterson, but we already talked about that. How about Carlos Hyde? Sell high or no thanks, guy? It's hard to sell one of these running backs
Starting point is 00:46:47 that's getting so much work in producing. PPR, it's easier to get away from because he's been non-existent in the passing game. And so they've, you know, for as much as they've blown games, the tie against the Steelers, the loss against the Saints, and they could be 3-0,
Starting point is 00:47:02 they've lived a little bit of a charmed life. And so while this defense is better, at some point they're going to be chasing points. And will he be involved as much when that happens if he hasn't been productive in the early part of the game? I would sell him high for like Kareem Hunt. So like for a buy-locate? But it's got to be really high.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Right. So like David Johnson, you'd make that switch. But would you sell Carlos Hyde for Amari Cooper or Larry Fitzgerzgerald no no no no you can't right yeah no um buy or sell high or no thanks guy tyreek hill he has the 37th most targets among wide receivers he has one red zone target He had four of them last year, and yet he is a top five wide receiver. Sell high or no thanks guy, Tyreek Hill? No thanks guy. I'd sell high for
Starting point is 00:47:50 one of the elite running backs if I can make that happen. Would you sell Tyreek Hill for Leonard Fournette? Yes. In the right circumstances. Which would be like your team has wide receiver depth, you need a running back.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Right. Yeah. And then T.Y. Hilton, sell high or no thanks guy? I don't think he's really a sell high. I feel like I am evaluating him differently than you guys. He's the clear-cut number one guy on Indianapolis. Which we knew before the season. And he's got two touchdowns in two games.
Starting point is 00:48:29 He's second on the... He's got 32 targets. Second on the team is Ebron with 20. Like, I don't think he's spectacular because he's not making plays downfield like he used to. But he's, I think, still in line to have a big year. If I were to put him in one of these categories,
Starting point is 00:48:45 it would be more buy low than sell high. Really? He was a top 8 or 9, 10 receiver in ADP, and he's number 10 right now in fantasy points. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why I didn't consider him a buy low. But if people, you know, it's possible that perception is. I just think the perception of luck is driving down what the perception of T.Y. Hilton is
Starting point is 00:49:05 because, yes, he's scored in two straight games, but what's the yards been? Yeah, he's got 179 yards in three games, so he's averaging 60 yards a game. Okay, that's a great point. So would you rather have T.Y. Hilton or Kenny Galladay? Hilton. Hilton. Hilton. Like, Galladay? Hilton. Hilton. Galladay is a sell-high candidate. Is he?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Because he might be a breakout. I totally agree with you, but there also is an injury track record that he dealt with last year, and at some point you're going to assume teams start to focus on him and take him away, and then you see a little bit more production in the other direction but yeah no anybody that's having these breakout moments you put in the sell high category it's just a matter of you have to sell them for something great like again if you could
Starting point is 00:49:54 turn kenny galladay into leonard fournette the same scenario you just posed you do that in a heartbeat that's okay but that's that's obvious but what if you're turning kenny galladay into larry fitzgerald i would not do that. No, no, no, no. But it's more along the lines of like can you find the Joe Mixon owner that is desperate for receiver help and has running back depth that they're getting by with until Mixon comes back? Can you get Dalvin Cook for Kenny Galladay? And some of these have to be package deals. But I think if you could turn anybody that was drafted or picked up off free agency that you weren't expecting to start,
Starting point is 00:50:26 that has exceeded expectations, if you can flip them for something better, you flip them for something better that you think is going to happen down the road. Like Kareem Hunt's production is still in front of him. David Johnson's production is still in front of him. I know, but we keep talking about these round one, round two running backs. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I do think that's a little obvious. Okay, so if you have wide receiver depth
Starting point is 00:50:46 and you can get Kenny and Drake for Kenny Galladay, that's a move I would consider. There you go. Now that is... Yes. Okay, so would you consider it or would you do it? If I just picked up one of these receivers, Calvin Ridley, Mike Williams, any of these guys and Galladay, and I had good receivers to start with, then yes.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I mean, all these are case specific, but in a vacuum, if I could turn a guy who was a third or fourth wide receiver coming into the season for me for a number two running back, or at least somebody that I think is a number two running back, then that's a move I would try. That's a great call. And just saying I trade Kenny Galladay for Kareem Hunt, that is actually going to happen in some leagues.
Starting point is 00:51:21 For a lot of you owners out there, it might be very obvious. But for some of you, those are the types of trades we see. We see them all the time. If I have one of these guys, and it's not just Gallaudet, Calvin Ridley, or I don't think Mike Williams, Tyler Boyd quite gets it done yet, but anybody that's in that Ridley
Starting point is 00:51:37 sort of range, maybe Chris Godwin, certainly Deshaun Jackson. If you can go to the Mark Ingram owner right now who may or may not have a good team and looking to shake things up, do so now before he steps on the field. All right, guys. I think it's been a little bit too long.
Starting point is 00:51:55 It is time to regulate. Let's rock and roll. This one is from Nick. He says, TLDR. What the heck does that mean? Too long, didn't read. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:52:10 Why did he write that? He's summarizing for you at the top if you don't want to read the entire question. Is it okay to make a trade that includes a one-week rental? Should I read the rest of it or too long, don't read? No, it's not okay. No.
Starting point is 00:52:25 You sure? 100%. Should I read the rest of it or too long to read? It's not okay. No. Okay. You sure? 100%. So just so I think everybody understands, trading back and forth? Yeah. He wants to trade somebody to cover somebody's buy week and then he gets them back the next week. Yeah. That's just not –
Starting point is 00:52:38 Why is that not okay? It's just – it's been established. I agree. I agree that you cannot – I can't offer a good explanation for why it's not okay. It's sleazy because it would never, ever happen in real sports because if it did, the rest of the league would pitch a fit. And it's just not the way that fantasy is supposed to be played.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I think leagues actually have rules against this. I know in the NBA, if you make a trade between teams, you can't trade back to the same team for a certain period of time. 60 days. Yeah. Yeah. All right. And Nick also says, P.S., someone give Heath a hug. That would be nice.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Okay. Well. Jamie, come on. Get up. Yes. Hug it out. I will narrate. They look to be wearing very similar shirts today.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And they are hugging. And they are now one person in a lightly colored shirt. It was nice. The hug is over. We're regulating. Thank you. Who was that? Dylan.
Starting point is 00:53:33 That was from Nick. No, that was from Nick. This is from Dylan. Dylan wants us to regulate for him. He's from Dunkirk, New York. He is the commish of his league. I'm probably jamming a little bit too loud here. Our trade system has always been that a trade needs majority approval to pass.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Heath, you can sit this one out if you want. The trade that was agreed upon between two people in an eight-team, two-quarterback plus super flex PPR league, was Melvin Gordon for Bortles and Burkhead. Melvin Gordon for Bortles and Burkhead. Melvin Gordon for Bortles and Burkhead. Remember, two quarterbacks and a super flex PPR league. The guy getting Bortles is down to two starting quarterbacks. The majority of the league vetoed it. Do you think we were fair to veto it, even though it's clearly one-sided? Others in the league agree if it was Mixon and Bortles, that it would have been fine, but it was Burkhead and Bortles.
Starting point is 00:54:25 So he gave up Melvin Gordon. He got Burkhead and Bortles in a two-quarterback, eight-team PPR league with a super flex. Should that have been vetoed? If trades are vetoed, then yes, that should be vetoed. I'm not really sure I agree. I mean, if you can start three quarterbacks, look, Burkhead ends up being a bust, but that was before we knew that, before this week. If you could start three quarterbacks in a league, is Blake Bortles that much worse than Melvin Gordon? Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Veto-able worse? Yes. I mean, essentially what you're saying is that Blake Bortles should be in an eight-team league a first or second-round pick. In a three-quarterback league. You would draft Blake Bortles in a three-team league, a first or second-round pick. In a three-quarterback league. You would draft Blake Bortles in a three-quarterback league in the first or second round? No, he doesn't have to be equivalent to Melvin Gordon. That's not what makes a trade vetoable. He could be four rounds worse than Melvin Gordon.
Starting point is 00:55:16 We wouldn't veto it. All quarterbacks are essentially started in this league. You're evaluating value. No, but it doesn't have to be an even trade for it to be not worth a veto this isn't an even trade it's not an even trade got a four point per passing touchdown league blake borals has scored 63 points this season melvin gordon has scored 55 but they're always going to score more that they should not be vetoed three quarterbacks should not be vetoed no trade should ever be vetoed but They always score more when you start three quarterbacks. Should not be vetoed. No way. No trade should ever be vetoed.
Starting point is 00:55:45 But even if you were open-minded to vetoing trades, Heath, would you veto this trade? I would never veto a trade. I hate you. God, you can't, like, just have – just someone give Heath another hug. All right. I say don't – I say that that was bad vetoing. Bad vetoing. This is Carlos from a big city.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Just like all vetoing. Next to Glendale, California. Maybe that's Los Angelesing? Bad vetoing. This is Carlos from a big city next to Glendale, California. Maybe that's Los Angeles. I don't know. He says, hey, Jimmy, John, Robert, and John. Jimmy, John, Robert, and John. I don't know if that's Led Zeppelin or quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:56:18 John and his brother. From the subs? Okay. Here's the question. I'm the commission of a league where I had initially turned on a three ad drop per week rule to encourage more trades. So you're only allowed to make three ad drops per week. We're a relatively easygoing newbie part-time fantasy football league. This rule has not worked
Starting point is 00:56:45 i don't think our managers have time to evaluate and propose trades i realized this after week two and then i thought i better change the rule to allow more ad drops because injuries are already piling up and someone's going to work on their lineup sunday morning and then get stuck but then a squirrel ran past me and i began to chase it with my six-year-old daughter so he forgot to change the rule anyway at 8 a.m sunday, a message came across our league chat from one of our managers saying that he just realized one of his running backs had been ruled out and he couldn't add a replacement. He had already reached the three ad drop maximum. So I made the decision to allow one more ad drop. Here's why. One, it was a dumb rule by me that I wanted to change anyway, but I forgot.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Two, it's not like the rule was 10 ad drops a week and this guy was just willy-nilly adding and dropping guys. His team was decimated. Three, not allowing someone to fill a slot in their roster just sucks. Four, making the sudden change didn't impact anyone negatively. And five, it was also still two hours before kickoff. They're in California, remember. Well, one manager was not fine with it, and it wasn't even the team that the ad drop guy was playing against.
Starting point is 00:57:48 As a matter of fact, that owner hadn't said anything. But this third-party manager was really adamant about the rules and really wanted Manager One to have to start a running back who was inactive this week. He said that we all should have voted to make the change and that I shouldn't have made the change unilaterally. I disagree, given the timing, my reasoning above make the change and that I shouldn't have made the change unilaterally. I disagree given the timing, my reasoning above, and the fact that I'm the commissioner and that I want everyone to have a good fantasy football experience. Am I still wrong? Throw a little bit of cheese there to Adam Azer.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Am I still – am I in the wrong here? I want to take it easy on Carlos because they're new to this, he says, and this is just a part-time league. What's a part-time league? There's no such thing as a part-time league. Well, he should probably be a part-time commissioner and see if there's anybody else that wants to do the job. Oh, come on. Because that is a really, really bad job on your part, Carlos.
Starting point is 00:58:40 First off, I don't agree with the three-add-drop rule in the first place, but you don't change rules mid-season, especially without a league vote. I think you can change rules midseason if everybody's okay with it, if the rule sucks. In fact, I'm in a dynasty league right now where we changed the rules midseason. We changed them yesterday from non-decimal scoring to decimal scoring. Everybody's fine with it. That's a big one. So this is a bad rule, three ad drops per week.
Starting point is 00:59:08 You've realized it. Make your rule better. I am the commissioner who wants everybody to have a good time, and I can't really get behind letting him do the ad drop. If I'm going to kind of play both sides here, I would say let him do the ad drop, and this already happened, but in retrospect, let him do the add drop, and this already happened, but in retrospect, let him do the add drop if the owner he's playing against is okay with it.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And that would be the best I would do. But if you're getting some pushback, then I think maybe you're going forward, you change the rule, but for week three, it has to stay. Also, I'd like to say that I got an email from the commissioner in that Dynasty League who said, this was last Sunday, said, Adam, the opponent you're going against has an illegal lineup and is scoring zero points. He said, I don't like this rule. Would you be okay if we fix his lineup and give him his full allotment of points? At the time, I was losing by like 20 points.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I ended up winning the week because of Roethlisberger. And I said, you know what I said? That's fine. I don't want anybody to lose a week because of an illegal lineup. Fix the lineup. Give him the points. No problem. That's the kind of guy I am, Heath. There are a lot of qualities that are good in a
Starting point is 01:00:27 person and good in a fantasy owner that are bad in a commissioner. I want everybody to have fun. That's all. I just want people to have fun. That's why we do this podcast. You can have fun and so we can regulate. And I forgot the volume is muted. So we can
Starting point is 01:00:43 regulate. There we go. go oh dreadful ending all right we're out of here tomorrow starter i got one more uh by low so high oh yeah who's that the the cell high is um i don't know but you know what the by low is gotta go by low gotta go by low all righty thanks everybody thanks to jb and he. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today.

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