Fantasy Football Today - 09/27 Fantasy Football Podcast: Fantasy Jeopardy! Buy Low, Sell High

Episode Date: September 27, 2017

It's a Wednesday trade show here on FFT! We start out with our favorite buy low (2:20) and sell high candidates (4:30) and give you more names later in the show. Find out what we expect from Amari Coo...per, Dez Bryant and Todd Gurley rest of season ... Let's play some Fantasy Jeopardy (19:04)! How long does it take for the guys to finally say "Who is" at the beginning of their responses? ... Previewing CHI-GB (35:13) as we focus on the CHI RBs, then it's on to more Buy Low/Sell High (41:41) and Worryometer Wednesday on Ty Montgomery (51:40), Justin Tucker (55:02), Jameis Winston (57:30), C.J. Anderson (58:30) and more ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! We're here to help you win the ultimate bragging rights. A fantasy title. Let's go! Now, here's Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Starting point is 00:00:19 All right, trade show. Welcome to the Wednesday podcast. This is Fantasy Football Today. Adam, Jamie, Heath. trade show welcome to the wednesday podcast this is fantasy football today adam jamie heath and we'll get dave back on tomorrow and on friday to do a little bit of start or say hey good morning guys one of you i think is in a really good mood one of you i feel is a little salty this morning but that's okay because we're gonna wash all your tears away and give you some fantasy football advice am i right am i wrong you don't have to say who's who.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I don't know about everyone's opinion, but my opinion is that everyone's in a good mood today. Okay, good. I am giddy. Yes, Jamie. I am giddy. Jamie, crazy giddy. Heath, no salt? Not a little salty?
Starting point is 00:01:00 I mean, I don't have any salt. I got my Larry Fitzgerald TO stat tweet off last night, so I feel good. Oh, yeah, what was that? This is Larry Fitzgerald's fan club here. What was your stat? It was just their career lines through their age 34 season. Okay, yeah. Larry Fitzgerald used to be great.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I'll give you that. He used to be great. Yeah, yeah. I mean, thankfully he was great long enough that he had about 250 more catches and 1,500 more yards and 14 less touchdowns than T.O. through the age 34 season. Wait, Adam's the one that said he's better, that T.O.'s better? No, I didn't say that. No, Adam said Calvin's the second best receiver, which Calvin's probably like fifth or sixth. Did Dave say that he's better, That T.O.'s better? I think. I do think.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I didn't say it, but I do think Terrell Owens was better than Larry Fitzgerald. It's tough when you have to factor in career longevity, which definitely is a point for Fitz. There's no taking that away. But don't start Terrell Owens in your FanDuel lineup because he will not be playing. But go to FanDuel.com and click the Join Now button and use our code CBSPOD. New users get free entry into the NFL Sunday Million with over $1 million in cash prizes. Make that first deposit on FanDuel. Use the code CBSPOD.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Get free entry into the Sunday Million, and that is void where prohibited. All right, so more on the whole Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss thing in a little bit. Today, buy low, sell high. We'll take a quick look at the most added list. We're going to play some Fantasy Jeopardy! Yeah! And just real quick, give me your favorite buy low candidate right now. We'll just do one now.
Starting point is 00:02:37 We'll tease it. We'll do more a little bit later. Who's your favorite buy low? Travis Kelsey. Yeah? Okay. I don't know if you can buy tight end low. It's very hard to do that. Favorite buy low? Travis Kelsey. Yeah, okay. I don't know if you can buy tight end low. It's very hard to do that.
Starting point is 00:02:49 But I would say that if you can, he's had two stinkers of the three games that he's played. And Alex Smith has actually played well. So I find those two things to not necessarily be in harmony. And I expect Travis Kelsey will play better. Amari Cooper. It can't be any worse. This is the rock bottom. Well, the rock bottom is actually like three days away. But the Amari Cooper owner
Starting point is 00:03:11 knows that. They just saw this terrible performance against Washington. They know that they can't start him in week four. They'll take almost anything for him. So if you do trade for Amari Cooper, you've got to be willing to sit him this week? You don't have to, but I would prefer if that was the situation.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Okay. Yeah. It's not a bad point. It's like the smart fantasy owner is going to look at Cooper and say, well, he could easily have a bad week this week. But if you wait until next week, the smart fantasy owner might say, oh, I'm not selling Cooper now. He's going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:03:47 He just got done with Denver. Why don't you get ahead of the game by a week? I just think like Dez Bryant, I don't know. I feel like it's really obvious, but if you're worried about Dez Bryant, I don't really think you should be. No, I just said to Heath, it's going to be like Dez got let out of jail.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah, right? Brutal matchup. Look, the Rams have a good defense. I don't know if they've showed it yet. And Tremaine Johnson's had a good season so far. But that's nowhere near what he's had to deal with for the first three games. Yeah. I don't really know that there's anybody that was drafted in the first round.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I kind of said this last week, or first or early second, that we're down on. Last week, one thing we got right was we definitely, not that this was such a hard prediction, but we thought that the A.J. Green and Brandon Cooks in particular, and I might be forgetting some other elite wide receiver, Beckham. Odell. Oh, yeah. That they were going to get going, and all three of them had huge
Starting point is 00:04:40 weeks, so it's going to happen for Dez. Hooray for Dez. Favorite sell high candidate. Go ahead. week so it's going to happen for des hooray for does favorite sell high candidate go ahead um i thought jamie was going to go first but i mean i guess and chris towers has been tweeting about this this morning i guess if if there are actually people out there that think that chris thompson is a number one running back then he's easily the right guy. And really, even if you could get a high-end number two or a number two wide receiver, I would do that. I view Thompson as more of a low-end number two in PPR and a flex at best in standard leagues moving forward.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Exactly. Yeah. No, I think we talked about it yesterday, and I'm glad you brought it up again. I think if there was a – there's a most added list and a most owned list and a most traded list. If there were a most emailed about list, it would probably be about Chris Thompson, getting so many questions about Thompson. And, yeah, so Heath, just to reiterate what you just said,
Starting point is 00:05:40 low-end number two running back in PPR, flex and standard? Yep. Now this week he's a little better than that because I'm not thinking that Kelly is going to play. And I don't really care if Piran plays. Anytime they're chasing points. Yeah. Look, he just came off a game. Forget about the touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:05:57 The touchdowns are ridiculous. That's not going to happen. But he just came off a game with 14 touches. If Kelly's out, could that go to 16? Could that go to 18? I'm looking at it as if 14's the peak. He's getting 12 to 14. Gruden's been
Starting point is 00:06:14 pretty clear that he does not want to go. I would say 14 is the peak if Kelly's healthy. I think if Kelly's out, because they had that game in hand. If they're behind, I wouldn't be surprised if he, with the caveat being, with Kelly out, I would not be surprised this week if he gets close to 20 touches. And Samajit Piran is hurt too, right?
Starting point is 00:06:37 We don't know. Right. That's the other part of it. He's got a bruised hand. Bruised hand. Bruised ego. Yeah. So, all right. sell high on Chris Thompson.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Jamie, you got a favorite sell high? I mean, it's the same two guys we've been talking about. I'll just say Todd Gurley. It's hard to envision him being this good, as we've said all along. Don't sell him for nothing. But if you can get a king's ransom for him, try and do that. All right, I was really struggling with that. I do have Gurley in a PPR league.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I think it's easier to call him a sell-high in a standard league. But he's so involved in the passing game. He has 13 catches through three games. It's very good. And 140 yards receiving through three games and two touchdowns. He has six total touchdowns this year. We know what the schedule is like at Dallas this week. Should be fine for Gurley. Seattle, at Jacksonville, Arizona, a bye at the Giants, Houston, at Minnesota. Then you get New Orleans,
Starting point is 00:07:35 then you get Arizona. So it's very difficult going forward. Even if those matchups don't turn out to be as difficult as we expect, it's still not going to be easy. But I don't know. I was thinking about who I would actually trade Gurley for. Absolutely for Le'Veon. Absolutely for Zeke. I thought about LeSean McCoy. I'm not going to get into that now. I want to talk about him later.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Good, because I have a trade offer that I'm contemplating making. And I want to see what you guys think about it. Okay. Does it involve Gurley? No, McCoy. Okay. We'll get to McCoy. guys think about it. Okay. Does it involve Gurley? No, McCoy. It involves McCoy. Okay. We'll get to McCoy.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I thought about Devante Freeman. And it's like I feel like, yeah, I should not even hesitate to offer Gurley for Freeman. But Freeman's been actually pretty uninvolved in the passing game so far. I think he has seven catches in three games. No question. You do it. You do it? No question.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Freeman over Gurley for sure. I was going to say, there's no way the Freeman owner does it. Right. You wouldn't think so, but again, are you worried that we're missing out on the third best running back in football in Todd Gurley right now with David Johnson out? Even the third best running back in football with his upcoming schedule doesn't finish third in fantasy points. Okay. Okay, but I would not trade him for Jay Ajayi. I would not trade Gurley for Ajayi because of the knee.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I would expect something in addition. I would trade him for Jay Ajayi as long as you're throwing in somebody else that I could start. If there's another person, okay, yeah. Yeah. But if it was one for one, I wouldn't do that. Would you? Heath would not. Jamie, would you trade Gurley for Ajayi?
Starting point is 00:09:03 Yes. You would? Okay. You would. Okay. I'm just concerned about the knee and no bye week. And he's actually on Worryometer Wednesday. So Worryometer Wednesday. Would you trade him for Melvin Gordon? I think I would, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:16 As soon as I get word that Melvin Gordon is going to play this week and that he doesn't have a serious injury, I would. Would you? Gurley for Gordon? Yes. I think so. I'm a little worried that this knee thing seems to be lingering. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Let's get the clear issue on the health. All right. So that's some bylaw. I think I'm more interested in trading Sammy Watkins with those matchups than I am Gurley. The only thing is You would think In those matchups They're playing from behind And they're throwing more in the fourth quarter
Starting point is 00:09:49 Than they've been throwing And it's an increase in targets for Watkins And a decrease in attempts for Gurley No, because Gurley's so involved in the passing game He'll still stay relevant But Watkins, Sherman, Ramsey, Peterson, Jenkins Those are his next four games after Dallas With a bye in there.
Starting point is 00:10:06 That's scary. Yeah. I just don't know that you can get much for him either. But I wouldn't trade him for – I wouldn't trade Sammy for Demarius. You'd trade him for Cooper? Yes. You'd rather have Watkins than Demarius Thomas? I think so.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Really? I'd go the other way. I'd rather have Demarius because I think there there's a wave of production coming for him. All right. More Bilo and sell high later. If you want to talk about ad drops right now, I saw Matt Breida. He's still available in a lot of leagues.
Starting point is 00:10:33 That's somebody that maybe I should consider getting now. If you want to get the Chris Carson before Chris Carson becomes a thing, try to stash Breida. I thought he looked pretty good when Hyde got banged up. So you're hoping for an injury. There's no question, but not a bad stash. And then people are adding Ryan Suckup, who's like this year's Justin Tucker. That was interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Any interesting ad drops for you guys? It's pretty actually kind of a boring ho-hum waiver wire night for me. Not for Jamie. Jamie shot the moon. Yeah, I spent $51 in a PPR league to get Chris Thompson. I thought that was worth it. It's a 10-team league, right? Yep. And you dropped
Starting point is 00:11:14 Javoris Allen, which I thought was interesting. He's got five catches, two games in a row. He's good. The only thing that makes me nervous is without Yonda in there that that offensive line could be shot. But how much? 51 bucks for Chris Thompson? Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Did he overspend? I think he probably did, in my opinion, because when I hear $51 for Chris Thompson in a PPR league, I could definitely see a situation where that's the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I'm not sure he's $51 better than Javorius Allen. Yeah, the drop part of it was actually more interesting to me than the add part. I would drop Javorius Allen for – I'd rather have Chris Thompson than Javorius Allen. But to me, they're closer than spending over half of my fab. Yeah, I don't disagree with that, but I was just looking at it as I'm never going to start Javorius Allen on that team. Yeah. I definitely will start Chris Thompson on that team. The interesting thing, well, how much FAB will Javorius Allen go for now?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah, I don't think we should say that. Usually secondary pickups probably go less. I'm going to put in a claim, no question. Oh, I'm definitely putting in a claim for him. It's probably, I'll say, 15 to 20 wins it. Well, Adam, how much are you going to bid? I'm thinking like $3, something like that. Yeah, so just bid four, Heath.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Okay. Yeah, you'll be fine. I will definitely not bid more. No, I, of course, will bid more than $4 on Javoris Allen, but I won't break the bank because, you know, I don't think he's going to be great. No. Yeah, you won't break the bank either. No, I'd much rather have Chris going to be great. No. Yeah. You won't play him. No, I'd much rather have Chris Thompson than Javorius Allen.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I did not get any Wendell Smallwood. Dave got all of Wendell Smallwood. Dave took a lot of Wendell Smallwood from me, for sure. But I put in claims for him in every league I was in that he was available. I thought we had all agreed that we'd rather have Blunt than Smallwood the rest of the season. I did get LeGarrette Blunt for $4, yeah. And I think I saw at least two leagues where Smallwood went for like twice as much as Blunt did. I noticed that too.
Starting point is 00:13:16 From who? From Dave? I think it was. I'm not sure. There were two different leagues where Smallwood went for like 30 or 40 and Blunt went for 20 and one. And then Adam got him for four and another, I think. Yeah, I got him for four. I actually in a in a PPR league, I put in claims for both.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I will never start either one. I have to play one running back and my three running backs are Elliott, C.J. Anderson and Carlos Hyde. So I will never play either one of those guys, assuming there's no catastrophe there. But, yeah, I mean, I'll just go back to what we said. I think Blunt's better standard, and Smallwood's better, at least right now, PPR. And I will say I was happy to get, in I think two or three leagues, the Bengals DST. I don't know how good of a DST they are, but they got the Browns this week. Kaiser's thrown seven picks in his last three games.
Starting point is 00:14:05 They're getting Vontaze Berfic back. His last two games, excuse me. So Bengals DST, actually the most added player or players in CBSSports.com. Well, our projections are off the charts for them. I'm hoping. I need them. Anything else, guys? I got Foreman in a league or two.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Picked up Carson Palmer. Dropped Cam Newton in a league. Picked up Deshaun Watson in a league or two, picked up Carson Palmer, dropped Cam Newton in a league, picked up Deshaun Watson in a league. Cool. Forgot to mention we are going to preview the Packers-Bears game, the Thursday night game. That will be coming up later in the show. And Jamie's going to be watching it with some new friends
Starting point is 00:14:38 out in Los Angeles. Jamie, tell us where to find you in L.A. tomorrow. I will be at the Chelsea Pub and Lounge in Hermosa Beach, California. So come out and say hi. We'll be out there at 4 o'clock Pacific time, getting you ready for week number four, helping you with your lineups and helping you with the Bears and Packers if you have any questions about that game.
Starting point is 00:14:58 So come on out and say hi with our good friends at CBS Sports and Old Navy. There will be free snacks, free drinks, and prizes. I got to book my flight. All right, cool. That's in Los Angeles. Have a fun time. Oh, wait, you're coming? I mean, if there's free snacks, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I'd pay $600 round trip just for free snacks and beverages. That's probably a good idea. It makes sense, right? Economically sound decision. All right, here's your useless stat of the day because you're going to start Aaron Rodgers anyway. Here are the passing yards for Aaron Rodgers in his last five Thursday night games. 219, 189, 156, 202, and then last year, 326 on 56 pass attempts.
Starting point is 00:15:39 He has a weird Thursday night history. You're going to start him anyway. But he is 15-4 in 19 games against the Bears. He has a 103.2 passer rating. That is the best in league history, or best in the league, maybe it's just current, for one quarterback against a single team. That stat, thank you, Chicago Tribune. Just thought it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:15:57 You football fans would enjoy that. Yeah, there you go. More on that game later. News and notes. Okay, more on that game now. Randall Cobb practiced in full, so we expect him to play. Yep. David Bakhtiari returned to practice, their left tackle.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Let's hope he plays. So did their defensive tackle, Mike Daniels. We'll find out how much that could impact the startability of Jordan Howard and Tariq Cohen. Orleans Darkwa should play this week. Chris Johnson will remain Arizona's starting running back. Do you have any interest in starting him against the Niners, Chris Johnson? Nope.
Starting point is 00:16:28 No. So you'd go Smallwood over Chris Johnson? Yes. Yes. Smallwood over Johnson. The Jets sign Travaris Cadet. Travaris Cadet. Does that mean you're worried about Matt Forte playing this week?
Starting point is 00:16:46 No. Oh, yes. We don't expect him to play. I you're worried about Matt Forte playing this week? No. We don't expect him to play. I'm not worried about it. Well, one of us actually spoke to Matt Forte yesterday. Oh, that's right. You did. How'd it go? I did. It was fun. It was fun. I asked him... Is he playing this week? Yeah, really. If anybody should know.
Starting point is 00:17:00 You know, I asked him, but I sort of felt like he didn't want to be asked about it, and I felt like it was not an appropriate question. So he said he's hopeful. He doesn't think it's that bad. Was he limping? No, he was not limping.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I don't get the sense that it's a long-term injury, but maybe he doesn't play this week. But I don't have really any inside info, and I didn't want to press it because that wasn't why I was there. Hard-hitting journalism. Yeah, that's't why I was there. Hard-hitting journalism. Yeah, that's not why I was there. He was very nice. He was a pleasure to talk to, and I did ask him about New York pizza versus Chicago-style pizza, and he said, quote, I knew you were going to ask me that. So I guess it wasn't a very good question, but it was a fun answer and a good interview
Starting point is 00:17:42 that I'm going to air on Saturday after the Mailbag. Same podcast. It will the Mailbag, same podcast Mailbag plus Forte interview I asked him about what we can expect From the Jets backfield going forward And also about 2200 career touches When do running backs break down
Starting point is 00:17:58 So some interesting stuff for fantasy Sean Payton would not say What Willie Sneed's role will be this week As they face the Dolphins in London. Where do you guys have Willie Sneed ranked? 25th? Not that high. I'm closer to 40.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Okay. Just want to see something? I'd like to see something. Yeah. Do you expect the following players? The Dolphins stink. The Dolphins do stink. I'm just worried.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Like his very first game back, Brandon Coleman scored a touchdown last week. Ted Ginn scored a touchdown last week. How many snaps did he play? I don't think he plays a full complement of snaps. Need play? Yeah. I would say he probably plays 30 to 40 percent. So let's do the do you expect game.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Do you expect Doug Baldwin? Yes. Yep Yes Sam Bradford Jordan Reed Nope Okay pick up Vernon Davis Rob Kelly Michael Crabtree Nope
Starting point is 00:18:59 Sammy Watkins Corey Davis John Brown This is Fantasy Jeopardy Hawkins. Nope. Corey Davis. Nope. John Brown. Nope. This is Fantasy Jeopardy. Woo. Okay, you have three categories, and you have a $200 option and a $400 option in all three categories. The categories are quarterbacks, running backs, and wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Everybody got it? Quarterbacks, running backs, and wide receivers. Everybody got it? Quarterbacks, running backs, and wide receivers? Yes, for 200 and 400 in all three. Okay. So I don't remember who won last time, but, Jamie, I will give you the honors. You can have the first pick on the board. Running backs for 200. Running backs for 200. A consensus top ten running back on draft day.
Starting point is 00:19:44 He is averaging less than three yards per carry and has only nine fewer receiving yards than rushing yards. Heath? Is that Heath? That was Jamie. Jamie. DeMarco Murray. Incorrect.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And the question should have been, who is DeMarco Murray? Yeah. I'd like to go for the steal. Okay. Wrong game, huh? LaShawn McCoy. Well, Heath. Who is LaShawn McCoy?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Thank you. That is correct. 200 points to Heath. Yes. Who is LaShawn McCoy? So he is averaging, like I said, less than three yards per carry and has only nine fewer receiving yards than rushing yards, which is both a good and a bad thing. No touchdowns so far.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Jamie, you wanted to talk about a LeSean McCoy offer? Yeah, so I have a league where my receivers are brutal. My top two receivers are Demarius Thomas and Kelvin Benjamin. So I have LeSean McCoy, Melvin Gordon, Leonard Fournette, and Chris Carson. So I'm going to offer LaShawn McCoy for A.J. Green. There's also keeper implications, which is why I won't part with Fournette or Gordon for now. So McCoy, it's a standard league. McCoy for Green, and the Green owner is starting running backs are Amir Abdullah and Duke Johnson. Oh, this is a perfect trade.
Starting point is 00:21:03 It makes perfect sense. It should be, but people get stubborn. Yeah, I don't think if I was the A.J. Green owner, I would ask for something in addition. Which I'm not convinced. LaShawn McCoy would not be enough for me because we were drafting A.J. Green well before LaShawn McCoy. We were not. No, that is not true. I don't know well before.
Starting point is 00:21:22 They were pretty close, and I think a lot of people in standard scoring leagues were drafting McCoy before. Average opposition is not what you're saying. I know what you're saying, but average opposition. Personally, I was. Yeah, average opposition, McCoy is almost going at one point like a round before A.J. Green. Yeah, I was taking A.J. Green fifth or sixth overall. McCoy was going like eighth. It's not like it's that egregious.
Starting point is 00:21:41 In our flex league with the industry experts, I believe McCoy went fourth overall. So it depends how you value running backs. Now, look, personally, you guys agree or disagree? I'm not really too concerned about the last two games. Carolina's tough to run against. With Luke Kuechly, they have been. Denver's been great against the run. So I think it was pretty bad, but kind of excuse it for McCoy.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Yeah. But, yeah, in the ideal world, I don't want to part of excuse it for McCoy. Yeah. But yeah, I don't like an ideal world. I don't want to part with Lashawn McCoy, but my roster construction. He's he's a player. Again, there's keeper stuff that factors into it. He'd be a first round keeper. I'm not keeping him next year to first round value. I would prefer to part with Carson of that group.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But Carson is like a 13th or 14th round keeper for me next year. Right. And I won't get the same in return for him. Okay, here's what I wanted to bring up with McCoy. If there's something to be concerned about, it looks like maybe it's the role of Mike Tolbert. McCoy has one carry inside the five-yard line. Mike Tolbert has three carries inside the five-yard line. They both have three inside the 10, but as they get closer to the goal line,
Starting point is 00:22:43 Mike Tolbert has been looking like a goal line running back. It's a little weird. How many touchdowns does Mike Tolbert have? One. And I think it was a receiving touchdown? I believe so. No, he was rushing touchdown against the Jets. Rushing touchdown, okay.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah, so McCoy has no touchdowns. And, yeah, one touchdown for Tolbert. And he has two games with double-digit carries. So I don't know. Are you scared about that? Because McCoy had like 14 touchdowns last year, 14 total touchdowns. That was probably going to go down. But are you afraid of him even reaching 10 this year?
Starting point is 00:23:17 Yeah. Yeah, I don't think the odds of him reaching 10 are great right now. He's got three games with zero. It's a bad start. Yeah. Okay. Well, how much zero. It's a bad start. Yeah. Okay. Well, how much... Sorry, just to finish it.
Starting point is 00:23:28 How much of a concern is the Tolbert thing? Scale of one to ten, it's a.5. Really? Okay. I would rather have Gurley than McCoy.
Starting point is 00:23:38 It's bold. It's bold. Not wrong, but it's bold with that schedule coming up. Right. All right. Heath, you have's bold with that schedule coming up. Right. All right. Heath, you have the board and a $200 lead.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Running backs for $400, Adam. A lead running back on a playoff contender. He is not a top 24 running back right now and has just three catches this year and has scored eight, ten, and one fantasy point in three games. A lead running back. A lead running back on a playoff contender, not a top 24 running back, has just three catches this year and has scored 8, 10, and 1 fantasy point in three games. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah, Heath? Marshawn Lynch. Who is Marshawn Lynch? Thank you. You are correct. And you now have $600. Yeah, so I think Lynch, really, the week three game, just killing his numbers. But what are your overall thoughts on what we've seen from Lynch so far?
Starting point is 00:24:35 Well, very much close to what we expected, I think. Did you hear the stat? We were doing the show at the time. We were on the air. But I DVR'd the game. I watched it on Monday. We were doing the show at the time. We were on the air. But I DVR'd the game. I watched it on Monday. We were doing the Sunday night show. Chris Collinsworth said that through two games,
Starting point is 00:24:51 LeSean McCoy had made more first tacklers miss than any running back in football. Higher percentage of evading the first tackle than anyone in football. Really surprising that he's made more first tacklers miss than Kareem Hunt. He has. I think it's impressive. I actually think he's made more first tacklers miss than Kareem Hunt. He has. I think it's impressive. I actually think he's looked pretty solid. Well, he looked great in week one. First first game back.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Didn't have a great fantasy day, but he looked good. He didn't have to do anything in week two against the Jets. And they got embarrassed to a certain extent in week three. So it's hard to really gauge him fully, I think. Chris Thompson or Marshawn Lynch, PPR? Thompson. Thompson because I think it's more sustainable for him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Interesting. All right, Heath, you have a $600 lead. We have quarterbacks and wide receivers on the board here. Quarterbacks for $400, Adam. Quarterbacks for 400. Okay. The number 16 quarterback in fantasy. He has the 18th most pass attempts among quarterbacks. 24th most in the red zone. 18th most inside the five yard line. Yes? This is Heath. And who is Matt Ryan?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Wow, I wasn't even done reading the question. And yes, that is correct. You now have $1,000. Jamie, I believe you have to sweep the board. Just a tie. You better get in on this. What I was going to say about Matt Ryan is that last year he also had the 17th most pass attempts. This year the 18th most.
Starting point is 00:26:24 But he was throwing a lot inside the 10, inside the 5 last year. So far, not the case. It's very early. How concerned are you about Matt Ryan off to a slow start? I'm not concerned. I mean, he's on pace to finish as a top 10 quarterback. That's what we expected. No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:26:40 He will. Okay, but he's not on pace. He's 16th right now. I think he's still, I kind of agree with Jamie that he is on pace to finish as a top 10 quarterback because if he does exactly this for the rest of the season, there are six quarterbacks that will fall behind him. I don't think that's true. I don't think Matt Ryan's had a 20-point game yet. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:00 They're coming. Okay, fine. But he has. He's 19, 16, and 17 fantasy points and six points per passing touchdown, at least. I'm not disagreeing. They're coming. Okay, fine, but he hasn't. He's 19, 16, and 17 fantasy points and six points per passing touchdown, at least. I'm not disagreeing. They're coming. But he's not on pace. He hasn't done anything yet. He will finish as a top ten quarterback. Will he finish as a top seven quarterback?
Starting point is 00:27:17 No. I'll say yes. All right. Heath, $1,000 lead. I don't think Trevor Simi and Alex Smith, Jared Goff, and Brian Hoyer are going to finish. Maybe not Hoyer, but the other guys ahead of him. Okay. Heath, go ahead. Wide receivers for 400, Adam.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Man, wide receivers for 400. Jamie, you need to win this. He currently leads the NFL in red zone targets with eight, but he has just two targets inside the 10-yard line. He also has twice as many targets as anyone else on his team. He's number 10 in standard, number four in PPR. Okay, I have an objection. You kept rating after he buzzed in, and you stopped rating when I buzzed in. Oh, who buzzed in first?
Starting point is 00:28:01 Jamie. Jamie, go ahead. Yeah, I should have let you finish because the end of it threw me. I was going to say who is Dez Bryant, but I don't think that's accurate. I'm sorry that I have to give it to Heath. I mean, I have to give the – I'm going to say wrong. Heath, go ahead. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I didn't buzz. Okay, I currently lead the NFL in red zone targets with eight. I'll just make it a free-for-all. Whoever, just say a name. Two, but only two targets inside the ten. Twice as many targets as anyone else on my team. Number ten in standard, number four in PPR. Last year, number 17 in standard, number 11 in PPR.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Jarvis Landry? Close. 2015, number nine in standard, number seven in PPR. Led the NFL in catches two straight years. Who is Larry Fitzgerald? Heath is going to be a rich man after today. $1,400 for Heath. Sell high on Larry Fitzgerald or ride it out?
Starting point is 00:29:01 I don't think you can sell high on Larry Fitzgerald. I don't think that's reasonable. I'll ride it out. You don't think it's reasonable because nobody will pay for him? Right Well Heath would Yeah Make me an offer Would you rather have Fitzgerald
Starting point is 00:29:18 Or Adam Thielen Fitzgerald Fitzgerald or Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald or DeAndre Hopkins, rest of the season. Hopkins. Hopkins. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:35 You just know the tail off is coming at some point. All right, what do we have left? We have wide receivers for 200 and running backs for 200. No, and quarterbacks for 200. Heath, what do you got? Quarterbacks for 200, Adam. You have $1,400. The answer there is your daily double. $800.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Wow. Okay, okay. He's going for $800. Heath, the number two quarterback in fantasy. This former number one overall pick has scored exactly 18 fantasy points in each of his last two games. Who is Alex Smith? Oh, you got it, everybody!
Starting point is 00:30:13 And he's up to $2,200. Alex Smith actually, okay, huge game against the Patriots, but 18 fantasy points in his last two games. That's pretty good for Alex Smith. And I think he only threw like 21 passes last time out. In week two, he just barely missed Tyree Kill on a long touchdown.
Starting point is 00:30:31 That would have given him an even bigger game. Facing the Redskins, who have been great so far defensively, they really have a very improved defense, it seems. Start or sit Alex Smith this week? I would start him over Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr, and Matthew Stafford. Not Cam? And Cam, sorry. Yes, definitely.
Starting point is 00:30:53 The thing that helps Alex Smith's value is, one, the rushing yards, because he does like to scramble. And then, two, Andy Reid's play design in the red zone. They don't like to just run it directly into the line inside the 10-yard line. They like to run these little crazy plays where they fake a handoff and Alex Smith throws it six inches and somebody runs it into the end zone. That's a passing touchdown. It is. Does he look like a different quarterback this year, or is he going to be the same old Alex Smith? I think there's like three plays a game where he looks different. The rest of the time he's the same guy.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Okay. Jamie, we have one category left, so let's get on the board here. Don't get shut out. Running backs, wide receivers for 200. Currently the number one wide receiver in fantasy. He has four times as many touchdowns as Antonio Brown. Somebody buzz in? Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Heath? Who is Stephon Diggs? Stephon Diggs is correct. Clean sweep for Heath. $2,400 to Jamie Zero. Jamie, thanks for playing. You're welcome. Jamie actually went to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:31:59 He didn't participate in that. I need to know, what do we think about Stephon Diggs? Are you buying it? Is he going to be this good? I know he's not. I need to know, what do we think about Stefan Diggs? Are you buying it? Is he going to be this good? I know he's not going to be number one, but is he going to be a really good fantasy contributor this year? I'm not sitting him again. No, but I do think last week was spooky.
Starting point is 00:32:18 You had Grimes out. You had Quan Alexander out. You had Jockwe Smith. One of them got hurt. Well, you had Jockwe Smith, one of their pass rushers. Yeah, Chris Baker was out. Their defense was – and that's the thing. He's put up his big numbers, Stefan Diggs, against the Saints and against the really banged-up Buccaneers.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Right, and I don't think it's really an indication of him because we still have the scenario of A, Bradford coming back, and B, Bridgewater potentially playing. And Case Keenan may be better than a banged-up Bridgewater. He may be better than a banged-up Bradford, but and B, Bridgewater potentially playing. And Case Keenum may be better than a banged up Bridgewater, may be better than a banged up Bradford, but that scares me. And so I think this is a little bit of a trap game for the Vikings. I think we're going to see Case Keenum come back to reality. And if he does do that, what does that mean for Diggs and Thielen? So I agree with Heath. You can't sit him because after what we saw, look, two or three games,
Starting point is 00:33:02 it's the sample size we have. And in two of those three games, he's been fantastic. But the Lions have been very aggressive and have turned over their opposing quarterbacks. I think they have an interception in each of the three games. So I think with Darius Slay probably matching up with Stephon Diggs, it could be a little tough for him. Not that, again, that he's going to struggle, but his quarterback play may hamper him this week. He's a sell high.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Agreed. Rest of season, Stephon Diggs or Larry Fitzgerald? I think you have to put an asterisk on that one because we don't know the quarterback situation. I would go Diggs and standard Fitzgerald and PPR. I mean, I understand we don't know the quarterback situation, but is now the time to sell Stefan Diggs? Yes. Yeah, but I don't know if that's the trade you make.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yeah, well, you'd aim high. You'd aim much higher. I would try and turn Stefan Diggs into a Mark Cooper. Yeah. Okay, that's not a bad idea. All right, that has been Fantasy Jeopardy! And let's look at the Thursday night game. But I do want to tell you all that I had just gotten off the air last week.
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Starting point is 00:35:17 Aaron Rodgers is either number two or number one in our quarterback rankings this week, depending on which analyst you look for, you look at. Geez, I want to drop him more after what you said about his stats. Kind of scary. I mean, I know. It was really not a fantasy stat. It's just kind of interesting for football fans. He hasn't been that.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Maybe I'd avoid him in daily. I don't know. And the Bears defense, let's give them some credit. They've done well against Ben Roethlisberger. They've done well against Matt Ryan. They've done well against Jameis. Pretty well against Jameis. Yeah, they did well against Jameis. Pretty well against Jameis. Yeah, they did well against Jameis.
Starting point is 00:35:47 So, I don't know. Look, he's Rodgers, and that's fine. Ty Montgomery, any scenario you could see yourself benching him this week? You have Kareem Hunt. And Dalvin Cook. And Dalvin Cook. Yeah. And Jay Ajayi.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Let's not get too complicated. Montgomery should have a great week. I think the interesting thing for the Packers is the wide receivers. We've only seen all three of them on the field at the same time for an extended period of time in Week 1. And in that Week 1 game against Seattle, Randall Cobb had 12 targets, nine catches for 85 yards. Jordy had seven for 79 and a touchdown on eight targets.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And Devontae Adams struggled as he saw a lot of Richard Sherman. He had three catches for 47 yards on seven targets. So I'm sure Nelson is number one for you and he's a must start. What about Cobb and Devontae Adams? I think Adams is still a must start. Number two, though.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And Cobb is more of a number three better in PPR than standard. Yeah, I haven't fully changed everything in relation to Cobb practicing. I've got Cobb as a low-end number two, high-end number three. Adams is going to move down because I had him pretty high this week, but he's still a must start. Just keep in mind that game against Seattle, they took what was available to them,
Starting point is 00:37:04 and Jeremy Lane got thrown out of that game early after the interception. That changed Seattle's defense and how they approached things. Okay, would you start Devontae Adams or Stephon Diggs? Diggs. I would start Diggs. You would? Interesting. Would you start Devontae Adams or Marshawn Lynch? Adams. Adams. Would you start start Devonta Adams or Marshawn Lynch? Adams.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Adams. Would you start Randall Cobb or Marshawn Lynch? Cobb. Cobb. Cobb or Wendell Smallwood? Smallwood. PPR, Jamie? Smallwood, too, or just standard?
Starting point is 00:37:42 No. PPR, I would start Cobb. All right. Martellus Bennett. He's been bad this year. Starter sit Martellus Bennett. So far, he has 11 catches for 102 yards on 21 targets. And no tight end is more than two catches against the Bears. One of them was an 88-yard touchdown to Austin Hooper.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Other than that, they've done well against Hooper, Brate, and Jesse James. Starter sit Bennett. I think if he's your only tight end, you start him. I'm not necessarily – well, I guess I shouldn't say that. If you want to move on from Bennett for Charles Clay at this point, I think you can make that move. If you want to move on from him for maybe Benjamin Watson, you can make that move because they're kind of the same guy at this point.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Should you drop him for Vernon Davis and then, uh-oh, Jordan Reed plays on Sunday. Okay, I'll drop Vernon Davis now and just try to pick up another streamer. Sure, and then go to Cameron Braid or Ryan Griffin. I can see that. Yep. Okay, so you can get away from Martellus Bennett. And that's a smart move to do now if you want to try and get Bennett back. Packers DST is 9th for Jamie, 11th for Dave, and 13th for Heath.
Starting point is 00:38:49 They have three sacks in each game. No picks yet. They had 17 interceptions last year, 4th most in the NFL, and none so far. Could be coming this week, though. Let's look at the Bears. We're not going to start a quarterback for the Bears. Just keep in mind with the Packers DST, the Bears have played one road game. In that one road game against Tampa Bay, they were awful because Mike Lennon was chasing points.
Starting point is 00:39:05 They were terrible. The Bears running backs. Give me your overall thoughts, Heath, on Howard and Cohen. Yeah, and PPR, I'm starting both of them. They're both number two running backs for me. In a standard league, it's probably just Howard for me.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Cohen's borderline number two. Do you feel differently if Cohen gets the overtime touchdown? I think it's probably just Howard for me. Cohen's borderline number two. Okay. And you like... Do you feel differently if Cohen gets the overtime touchdown? Probably. Does it change your perception of it? Yeah, it might a little bit. Because I think it's just natural.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Right. You see another big play. Right. And it was a huge play. I expect Howard to get more touches than Cohen, so I'd rather start him. The one thing that I think you can get away with starting him in a standard league this week is them most likely chasing points. Right. Three Cohen?
Starting point is 00:39:53 Three Cohen. Howard you have to start just because we made this mistake last week of, oh, he's banged up, he may not get a full workload, and he just ran through the Steelers. I would start both of them over Lamar Miller. It is getting very tough to gain 70 rushing yards at Lambeau, which, you know, you gain 60-something, that's not so bad. But they are typically now, look at their last six home games, they are winning a lot of those in lopsided fashion, although not really.
Starting point is 00:40:24 They did pretty well against Seattle. I don't remember what the score was. They obviously did not do that against the Bengals. They won in overtime. But anyway, I don't know. Teams are often chasing points. The thing about Jordan Howard that I find so amazing is that after the Green Bay, he had a terrible game at Green Bay on Thursday last year.
Starting point is 00:40:40 After that game, they had three more blowouts. They have blown out three more times. And he ran for 100 yards in all three of those blowouts. So he's just really good. And he is top 12. Just keep in mind, last week, I'm pretty sure that was the first game of the season with Kyle Long. Yeah, right. Long came back, and they ran really well against the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Right. And Sitton was out, but still. Kyle Long is such a difference maker. Joe Mixon or Jordan Howard this week? I think you've got to go Howard. Howard. Standard. I'd go Mixon PPR just because I think he'll be a little bit more involved.
Starting point is 00:41:09 All righty. Tariq Cohen or Wendell Smallwood? Cohen easily. Yeah. Tariq Cohen. Let me get a wide receiver. Or Sterling Shepard? Cohen.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Cohen easily. Tariq Cohen or one more. Or Devontae Parker. Against the Saints. I'm going to go Parker. I'm going to go Parker too. Okay. Anybody in the passing game for the Bears?
Starting point is 00:41:35 Tariq Cohen. Willie Galt. Okay, we're done then. Let's move on. We've got a lot to get to here if we can. Buy low, sell high. I wanted to do Worryometer Wednesday. Not sure that we will. I have some trades to grade and some emails to read.
Starting point is 00:41:49 About 20 minutes left in the show. So, yeah, give me some more. The reason why we did Fantasy Jeopardy, in case you couldn't tell, was to bring up players that might be buy low or sell high candidates, like LaShawn McCoy, buy low, like Stefan Diggs, sell high, Larry Fitzgerald, maybe you just hold. So I wanted to talk about some relevant players. That being said, do you have any other by low or sell high candidates
Starting point is 00:42:11 you would like to talk about today? I still think there's a by low opportunity on Le'Veon Bell. I still expect him to be a top three running back rest of season. And I wouldn't be surprised if you could trade maybe even a todd girley for him i'm gonna i'm gonna try i'm sure it's gonna get rejected but i'm going to offer that for sure in my one todd girley league um anyone else anyone else that you're looking at like last week i talked about mark ingram do you still think that's a good like long-term buy low how long-term would it be you're not gonna going to get them as low as you would have
Starting point is 00:42:45 prior to last week. So, I don't know if the window is as good as it was. Because he had 85 total yards and gets it off. I think people are looking at that and saying, I'm going to hold on to him for this week. It seems like it's a lot easier to find buy lows than sell highs right now.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I'm starting to wonder about selling high. I mean, I actually talked about this last week. I talked about two guys. Well, I think I talked about more. But Gillisley is a sell high and Fournette is a sell high. And I think you might have – You mean it's not sustainable to score a touchdown every week?
Starting point is 00:43:17 Well, that's the thing. Gillisley does nothing other than score touchdowns right now. So I think you probably missed your chance. It doesn't make sense to try to sell high now. But Fournette is interesting. I read on ESPN.com today no running back has seen more eight-man fronts than Leonard Fournette. So no running back has more carries against eight-man fronts
Starting point is 00:43:39 than Leonard Fournette does. Well, there's only like two running backs that have more carries, period, than Leonard Fournette. That's true. And you like that. You love the opportunities. You love the goal line work. He's got about 21 receiving yards in each game so far.
Starting point is 00:43:52 It's a nice, cheap two points. But, I don't know. The Jaguars stink. Maybe next week, because you've got to like Fournette this week, right, against the Jets? Yeah, I would definitely try to do it next week. I think the one thing, though, to keep in mind is their season's been a little weird.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Because we haven't seen them in typical Jaguars fashion chasing points outside of a half against the Titans. And so, will Leonard Fournette be a little bit more involved in the passing game if that happens? I don't know. I don't think dramatically, but maybe a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:44:24 I hope so. Alright, you guys think about any more buy lows or sell highs while I tell everybody about FanDuel. Because football is back. FanDuel is back. We're into week four. I'm on a two-week winning streak in my 50-50s. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:38 It's always easy to find quarterbacks on FanDuel. The first thing I do is actually select a DST and then a kicker. And usually I get the cheapest kicker that I don't think has a chance to get shut out. And then you see how much money you have left. And then I probably go to quarterback and then to tight end. And I spend the rest of my time on running backs and wide receivers. I always want at least one stud wide receiver. Sometimes I get two of those.
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Starting point is 00:45:32 with over a million dollars in cash prizes when you make your first deposit on FanDuel. Go to FanDuel.com, promo code is CBSPOD. Again, CBSPOD, void where prohibited. Anyone else? You've had time. And CBS pod, void where prohibited. Anyone else? You know, I was looking at the quarterback position. I think Matt Stafford comes back to earth a little bit this week. And I liked him more than most coming into this year.
Starting point is 00:45:59 But I don't expect him to be a top five quarterback either. And there are quarterbacks that I would definitely, that have got off to slow starts I'd definitely rather have than him. I'll give you just a few guys that I don't think are – well, I'll give you one guy that I don't think is a buy low. I don't really want anything to do with DeAndre Hopkins. I disagree completely. Especially in standard. I tried selling him and I couldn't. Why? Don't you like him?
Starting point is 00:46:23 I don't trust the offense. I don't trust the touchdowns. What league do you have him in? I have him in the Heathdom League with you, I think. Do we? Actually, I'm not sure about that. I was almost going to make you a trade offer. I was going to make you pay, but I don't know if you're going to do it. But your running back situation
Starting point is 00:46:39 in the Flex League is awful. Terrible, yeah. And I was looking to make a trade. I was thinking about it, but I don't know if I want to give up on my receivers just yet and punt because I have Crabtree, Terrell Pryor, and now Willie Sneed coming back as my top three guys.
Starting point is 00:46:54 But you know, Adam, my running backs in those leagues are Kareem Hunt, Devontae Freeman, and Ezekiel Elliott. And you have Elliott's entire backups locked up. So I think you have Julio in that league, right? I'll give you Julio for Zeke.
Starting point is 00:47:09 But that's not what I was going to offer you because I'm not giving you that straight up. So I was going to make you pay, but you don't really have a lot to pay. I don't know how that team got so bad. Remember how much we liked that team when I drafted it? Well, I think it was the thought that you had – You had Abdullah. You have Abdullah. You had McFadden. You had Abdullah. You have Abdullah.
Starting point is 00:47:26 You had McFadden for what looked like six games. And – And I have Hopkins in that stinking league. I have Julio. I have – Oh, T.Y. Hilton. I have Julio, T.Y. Hilton, and Hopkins. Your receivers are good.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Obviously, I haven't gotten what I wanted from them. They have a combined two touchdowns. That's nine games between Julio Hopkins and Hilton. Right, and in a standard league, it hurts you. It kills me. And that's the thing. That's why I don't like Hopkins. I just don't think he's going to score that much.
Starting point is 00:47:53 The targets came down last week. Will Fuller's coming back. The targets will be there for him. I don't know that he's going to lead the NFL in targets. But maybe in PPR you could convince me. In standard, I don't really want him. It's how I felt about Lamar Miller. And I think we're all on the same page with Lamar Miller now.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Well, tell me a league that you're in that I'm in that you have him, and I'll make you an offer. Okay. I'll look at it. I do. I think he's going to be just fine. By the way, just before kickoff last week, I almost made a trade with Heath for Kelvin Benjamin.
Starting point is 00:48:24 This was the most ridiculous thing. You mentioned this one. A's or offers are one thing, but you send me a message saying, I want Kelvin Benjamin. I have Marcus Mariota. Let's make a trade. And I say, okay, I just sent you an offer. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:48:41 And then what did I say? Oh, sorry. I actually need a running back more. I thought I needed wide receivers. I say? Oh, sorry. I actually need a running back. I thought I needed wide receivers. I have a lot of leagues. I got confused. I was like, oh, wait, I don't need Kelvin Benjamin. You can have him back.
Starting point is 00:48:52 That was a good trade for me. All right. Should we move on? Worryometer Wednesday kind of does tie into buy low, sell high. So we can do that. Worryometer from Mark Schuster. I'm worried about you adam ranking calvin johnson ahead of randy moss all-time ludicrous factual yes i don't think it's ludicrous 75 of people
Starting point is 00:49:13 who responded to my twitter poll more than 3400 votes now uh said randy moss over calvin johnson so maybe it is ludicrous but to me calvin johnson's second best receiver of all time that is saying calvin johnson's the second best receiver of all time. That is – saying Calvin Johnson's the second best receiver of all time is crazier than saying Larry Fitzgerald's top three. You actually believe he's the third best player – second best receiver of all time, or he looked like the second best receiver of all time? I think the only argument for Randy Moss is longevity in that year with the Patriots, really. Well, I mean, that's the downside with Calvin. But I looked at their stats last night. What were you, like five when he played in Minnesota?
Starting point is 00:49:51 No, no, no. He was amazing. I put him at number three. But what were you, four when Calvin Johnson played in Detroit? Like, let's not forget, Calvin Johnson was the man. He was the best. And he was the whole freaking offense for them. And Randy Moss was bad?
Starting point is 00:50:06 No, I just said Randy Moss is three. Let's not make it out like I said Randy Moss is bad. Come on now. I didn't say that. You said Randy Moss is bad. Look at their per-game averages. Calvin Johnson, better. Yards and catches.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Pretty sure catches. Definitely yards. You are Mr. Touchdown, though. Your argument against Larry Fitzgerald not being is touchdowns. No, no, no. And Randy Moss has one, two, three seasons with more touchdowns than Calvin Johnson's career high. Okay, that is definitely a point for him. There's no question.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I am not Mr. Touchdown. That's not true. You're Mr. Anti-Touchdown. That's why I come off as Mr. Touchdown. I just think Calvin was better. I think at their peaks, Calvin was slightly better than Randy Moss. Okay, but that's a different argument than greatest receiver of all time. It can be, yeah. And I think that if I lose the argument, it's because of career stats and that Calvin retired pretty
Starting point is 00:51:00 young. Because if we're talking about at their peak, Antonio Brown's better than Calvin Johnson now, right? No, I don't think that's true. I mean i mean i think it's arguable i don't think it's a fact i i wouldn't disagree necessarily but i wouldn't agree i would slightly disagree i would slightly disagree like i don't think you're wrong are you agreeing with me no i'm not but i don't think you're i don't think it's outlandish or anything like that yeah sure you could say antonio brown's better than calvin at his peak but i don't think that's true. I think Calvin was probably the biggest difference maker in football of any non-quarterbacks at his peak. He was the entire offense.
Starting point is 00:51:31 He made that team go. He was incredible. All right, Worryometer from Dylan Duncan. On Amari Cooper. I think we talked enough about him. Ty Montgomery, durability concerns. This is from David. Ty Montgomery, Worryometer on him.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Four. Four. Six. Does it bother you at all that Ty Montgomery is not rushing well? He's averaging 3.5 yards per carry, 3.1 yards per carry, I think. Well, it's like we all said. He was going to be a workhorse, and he'd just get enough volume to where his efficiency didn't really matter. I think the concerning thing is that he's been a little touchdown dependent. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:10 The discussions we're having about Ty Montgomery are the exact opposite of everything I was worried about going into the year. It's hilarious. He does have 18 catches. That's pretty nice. I would like to see him— Yeah, but last week's game, the catches were terrible. Eight for 15. That's weird. I would like to see him play a game, maybe four quarters, with his entire offensive line healthy before I get too concerned.
Starting point is 00:52:25 We were watching the game on Sunday with John Beeson, a former NFL linebacker, and he was pointing out some things that Montgomery was doing that are not typical of running backs, which you would kind of understand. Like when he faces contact, instead of lowering his head, not his head, but like lowering his shoulder pads, he kind of turns a little bit, more so like you would see a receiver do. And so I don't think we're going to see, like last year, his yards per contact, which I think that number gets a little bit skewed when you have these big, long touchdown runs, which he had that one against the Bears.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Isaiah Crowell had the one against the Ravens. Ajayi had a million of them. So Montgomery, I think at some point, may take a hit the wrong way. And with the sickle cell trait, that could lead to an extended absence. So that's why I say it's five plus of a concern. But I don't know what it is. Jamal Williams obviously is not doing anything in practice. Aaron Jones is not doing anything in practice. When they've gotten
Starting point is 00:53:30 in the game, I think Williams had a carry for six yards last week. He maybe ran the wrong way. They keep saying we don't want Ty Montgomery to have this big of a workload and then they play him 95% of the time. The truth is he's not getting that big of a workload. He's had 10 carries and 12 carries in his last two games.
Starting point is 00:53:46 But he leads all running backs in snaps. Yeah, all right, but he certainly doesn't lead them in carries. I think part of it also, though, and you brought this up, Adam, the first time that we're going to see all three receivers on the field together since week one, he's such a good part of this passing game that you don't take him off the field. I wonder, though, if short week, wrist injury, they get a lead big enough. Is he off the field at some point in the second half?
Starting point is 00:54:13 I would be okay with it. Give him a series off. But not if you're starting him. If the lead is pick six, Rodgers two touchdowns to Jordy and to Martell's Bennett, and he has 50 total yards, 60 total yards? Yeah. You know what our total yards, 60 total yards? Yeah. You know what our Twitter mentions are going to be? He's got 35 rushing yards each of the last two games.
Starting point is 00:54:31 But I'm not really that concerned. I mean, he's the lead running back who catches passes on arguably the best offensive football. Yeah, I don't think it's a concern of benching him. I don't think it's a concern of – I mean, maybe he's a sell-high candidate. I was thinking about offering him, but I just but it's hard to sell high on running backs unless you're getting at least one running back in return. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Because, you know, it's just thin. And the plus for him, which is why I like Jamal Williams the same thing, is you're getting the guy on the best offense or one of the best offenses in football. Yeah. And Montgomery has, fantasy-wise, he's done what you ask. Absolutely. All right, let's go to our next one from Adam White. Worryometer on Justin Tucker.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Four field goals in two games. In three games. I'm worried that you're still using kickers in your league. Zero. Okay, yeah. Don't drop Justin Tucker. From Nick. Terrell Pryor.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Come on, he must be discussed. Well, we discussed him quite a bit yesterday, but that's fine. We'll discuss him again. Worryometer on Pryor. Seven. Yeah. It's got to be in that range. It's ugly. Now you have Josh Doxson seemingly going to get more involved, which he should.
Starting point is 00:55:38 And Chris Thompson's involved, as he should. And their tight ends are involved, as they should. And Crowder got more involved last week, which he should. And their tight ends are involved, as they should. And Crowder got more involved last week, which he should. Yeah. So Pryor's looking like one of the bigger busts. Worryometer from Jake on Miguel Cabrera.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Funny story about that, Adam. And there's a few crossover listeners from the Fantasy Baseball Podcast that will find this hilarious. I had to convince Scott White to put Miguel Cabrera in his top 12 first baseman for next year. Really? Yes. Wait, you have him in your top 12? Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Okay. All right, yeah, well, that's probably a topic for a different show. Worryometer on Phillip Rivers from Greg Ward. He looked awful. Five. Phillip Rivers. Four. He did look awful.
Starting point is 00:56:32 It is just one game, too. Yeah, it was one game. He played pretty well against Denver. I didn't see much of the Miami game, but... Yeah, the whole Denver thing is weird, though, because that's through for like 170 yards. He didn't play poorly, though. No, he played well. Right right right i i think that the thing is this this could easily be a get right game because the eagles secondary is not great they they can get this game can turn into a shootout
Starting point is 00:56:57 he still has his weapons playing for the most part well and if melvin gordon is banged up and they have to make him throw 50 times, it may be an ugly 50 pass attempts, but his fantasy production will be there. I watched the entire Eagles game. If they are as unhealthy as they were last week, they're awful. Awful. It's a very good matchup if they're unhealthy. And we know they won't have Darby. They won't have their best cornerback.
Starting point is 00:57:25 But will they get anybody back? We'll see. Okay, we're at a 5-4 on Rivers. Matthew Ziegler, Worryometer on Winston, the quarterback, but also the cop from New Girl. His relationship with Ferguson creeps me out. I haven't seen New Girl since, like, Season 3. It's very funny.
Starting point is 00:57:44 I love New Girl, but for whatever reason, I stopped watching. Yeah, Winston, I'm kind of weird with my cat, but I'm nothing like Winston from New Girl. That's a 10. But as far as Jameis Winston goes, what do you think? I had
Starting point is 00:57:59 him as a borderline top 12 quarterback, and that's what I expect he will be. Two. Tough matchup last week. Tough matchup this week if everybody's healthy for the Giants. So you kind of expected him to have some up and downs. At least I did.
Starting point is 00:58:19 You know, the disappointing thing is he didn't have the big game against the Bears. Yeah. But I think he's still going to be a top-ten quarterback this year. And let's do one or two more from Nick. C.J. Anderson. Worryometer on C.J. Anderson. One just because of injury risk. Two and a half.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Yeah, I wouldn't freak out about only getting eight carries in week three. That was weird. But he's the guy, right? He'll get more carries. He'll get 50% more carries than Jamal Charles. I don't know if I agree with that. Jamal Charles gets eight, CJ Anderson gets
Starting point is 00:59:00 12. That's a pretty low bar. But Jamal Charles gets 10, CJ Anderson gets 15? I think Jamal Charles gets 10. C.J. Anderson gets 15. I think Jamal Charles is getting 10 a game. You don't think Anderson gets 15 a game? I wouldn't guess he averages that, no. I'm not sure they get to run the ball that often.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Well, they had two games out of the three where he had 20 more carries. That's true. Yeah, I think he averages 15 for sure. Finally, Worryometer on Jimmy Graham from Julian Alexander. Jimmy Graham. Two. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:59:29 He's a tight end. What the hell are you going to do with that position? Jimmy Graham. Good game. No, I mean, what are you going to do if not start Jimmy Graham? You're not going to stream. You know the home road splits for him, too. Yeah, zero touchdowns on the road last year.
Starting point is 00:59:41 So far, zero this year. But he did have a good game at Tennessee last week. Seven for 71 home game, though. I know, but he didn't score, right? Great, pathetic. That means two are coming. That's Jamie and Heath. I'm Adam. Go visit Jamie in Los Angeles tomorrow. We'll talk to you with
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