Fantasy Football Today - 09/28: Mailbag and Regulatin' with Rich Hribar! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 28, 2019

Special guest Rich Hribar (@LordReebs) joins the show to answer your start/sit, trade and Regulators questions. We go through some of the news from Friday afternoon (5:20) and tell you if Paul Richard...son is a good sleeper before getting to the questions. First, some trade talk (11:40), then Fantasy Regulators Part One (33:00), Start or Sit questions (39:50) followed by a second round of Regulators (54:30). To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. Here we go! Email us at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. Here we go! It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Let's go! Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. It is your Saturday Mailbag.
Starting point is 00:00:20 We are recording 3.30 p.m. Eastern on Friday afternoon. We have some updated news for you and plenty of your emails. FantasyFootball at CBSi.com. Welcome to the Fantasy Football Today Road Tour presented by Little Caesars. Pizza for dinner tonight? How about ordering your favorite online from Little Caesars and using Pizza Portal Pickup? It's the latest, greatest, and hottest way to pick up a pizza without even going to the register. I'm Adam Azer.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Oh, I don't have any music for you, Ben. It's only a Wednesday thing. But Benny and the Gretches here, what's up? How's it going, buddy? Going well. We have something special planned today, don't we? Oh, yeah. We got a little something up our sleeves today.
Starting point is 00:01:02 That's true. Who's joining the show? Yeah, we got Rich Rebar joining the show, who Adam, a couple of weeks back, had no idea who he was. Who the hell is Rich Rebar? He's at Lord Rebs on Twitter. Those of you who know who he is, he's over at Sharp Football Analysis now. Warren Sharp's website. He was previously at NBC's Roto World.
Starting point is 00:01:21 He's the author of the awesome worksheet weekly article that breaks down the week each week. He's going to give you awesome analysis on your start, sits this week because he's already been elbow deep in every game all week long. So, Rich, what's going on, man? Ben, it's great to be on. I've hung out with you a few times, and we've got a relationship.
Starting point is 00:01:43 It was nice that you guys reached out after, you know, pocket aces over there, Adam Azer, uh, you know, uh, didn't know I was a real person on your show a couple of weeks ago, but, uh, I don't blame him. Uh, because, you know, as much as we think that the, how much ground we cover in our little bubble of fantasy football on the Twitter sphere, uh, there's a lot of, uh, the fantasy football world is very vast and we don't cover as much ground as we like to think we do so it's always nice to meet new people and you know reach out and have some new people find some of my work
Starting point is 00:02:11 so I appreciate you guys extending it out to me and having me on it's certainly Ben's pleasure and it's also my pleasure to have you on I'm really excited about this because you have some amazing stats and your twitter handle is atlordreebs which is R-E-E-B-S. But your last name is spelled completely differently than that and has a weird H at the beginning that threw me off completely. But it's silent. And you have
Starting point is 00:02:34 TechMobile and Zach Morris on a gigantic car phone, it seems, in your Twitter profile. Are you familiar with Zach Morris' trash yeah i am i've done a actual podcast you know talking about that as well but you know when i started on twitter you know back and now i want to say it's been seven or eight years now it's uh we've been doing this but uh you know zach morris was like from fantasy football you know zach always had an answer for everything you know on the show saved by the bell like no matter what the problem was he'd have some terrible scheme or something else to get out of it that's how kind of fantasy had an answer for everything on the show Saved by the Bell. No matter what the problem was, he'd have some terrible scheme or something else to get out of it. That's how kind of fantasy football is. That's why I use the avatar. No matter what pops up, we're not expecting in
Starting point is 00:03:14 fantasy football. You got to be quick and you've got to adapt. That was Zach Morris. He never let anything ruffle him. Yep. And you got to be so excited and so scared. But people, I just wanted to let you know, I don't know how much you've heard of me, but people actually did ask me many times if I did the voice for, Zag Morris is trash. And no, I don't. But I guess I sound like that guy.
Starting point is 00:03:38 So Rich, let's talk fantasy football here. And is there anything you'd like to talk about in the world of fantasy football before we get into the news and notes? Any buy low, sell high, reaction to Thursday, something this week? The floor is yours. I don't know how we're all going to recover from Jordan Howard night, but on Thursday with the three touchdowns like everyone was expecting
Starting point is 00:04:01 and then losing Devontae Adams at the end of his career game. We're already a month in. It's crazy how fast this always goes by every year and we get into it. We wait all summer for the season to start. And then now we're already going to be a quarter of the way through the regular season. It's just it's just crazy how fast it goes by. So, I mean, I hope everyone's sitting on some wins already because, you know, you want to be 0-4 after this weekend jordan howard night last night yeah it was so tilting it was i was not happy about that i didn't really care that much because only eight percent he's only started in eight percent of leagues and you know i know ben and i both mentioned on the wednesday show that we had to start miles sanders in one league and i'll take my seven fantasy points. Yeah, he was fun.
Starting point is 00:04:45 But yeah, Ben, it's not going to happen with Miles Sanders. Not as soon as I was hoping. Their schedule is disastrous after their next week against the Jets. It's like, if he's in a timeshare, when am I ever going to feel comfortable starting him? And not to like week 13 or something like that. It sucks. He ran five pass routes on Thursday night. Pretty stellar.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah. They didn't throw a lot. Howard only ran nine. I mean, that was... A touchdown. I don't know. When did Jordan Howard get four target three reception and receiving touchdown potential? That just came out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Well, let's do the news and notes. Chris Godwin is a game time decision uh ben would you start chris godwin at the rams if he plays yeah i think that game's gonna be kind of a shootout i think if you have him you're probably putting him in your lineup oh wow okay because the rams defense is pretty nasty ben no not worried no not i mean i if he's playing and he's gonna be healthy i'm concerned about his health but you're saying if he's playing like yeah i'm i'm starting okay uh how about devin singletary look if he played it doesn't matter we don't like the the patriots running back ito smith practiced
Starting point is 00:05:57 uh where are you on davante freeman with tennessee coming in rich uh where are you on davante freeman right now disappointing start to the season. Yeah, still kind of where we were, one foot in, one foot out. Kind of, you know, the first two games he ran into terrible matchups. Last week he played 90% of the team snaps with Ido Smith inactive. So, I mean, we got to expect Ido to come in and get a little bit of that. And the matchup isn't as good as it was last week against Indianapolis. I mean, Tennessee's just 13th in rushing points allowed per game. But as a home favorite, he's going to be back in that RB2 kind of mix again. It's a deep
Starting point is 00:06:28 bucket of guys we don't feel good about, but we're going to keep playing for touches. Terry McLaurin is questionable. That is disappointing. Paul Richardson, I picked him up in a deep league. If McLaurin's out, Ben, would you be interested in Richardson? Yeah. If you are in need of a receiver, yeah. One of the things in his profile that hasn't been great so far this year is he hasn't been seeing as many air yards, as many downfield shots. McLaurin has kind of just taken that work away from him.
Starting point is 00:06:56 If McLaurin's out, I would expect Richardson to continue to get that, and we have seen his role kind of grow a little bit underneath. I mean, he's still gotten some targets. They don't have anyone to throw the ball to. Giants can't defend anybody. I would take a shot on him if you are in need of receiver help. Yeah, Giants give up the most fantasy points to wide receivers. Rich, would you rather have Paul Richardson or maybe Dontrell Inman,
Starting point is 00:07:18 who it seems like he's going to be the number two wide receiver for the Chargers as Mike Williams is out and Travis Benjamin is doubtful? I would still go Paul Richardson just because that game is a little more back and forth potential than the Chargers. And I got to say, though, I mean, this would be the most Chargers thing ever to lose to the worst team in NFL history. If there's one franchise that could pull this off and do it, it would be the Chargers. But yeah, Inman gets a little bump. I bumped him up to wide receiver 45 in my rankings i think that's kind of where he's like a like a on that fringe flex spot and then if mcclurin doesn't play paul richardson will move uh up into like that wide receiver
Starting point is 00:07:54 three area two touchdowns the past two weeks at least you know uh that game is a little bit chance for back and forth i guess i should mention trey quinn right like if mcclurin's out because because the giant i mean there's a good chance two wide receivers do well. And Vernon Davis, too, I think is going to be viable. The Giants are always pretty bad against tight ends. And so he's somebody that I'm going to stream. I've already picked up in a couple leagues. I'm going to stream this weekend where I don't have great tight ends.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Justin Jackson's out. Is there a Chargers running back? It's probably not going to be Melvin Gordon. Is there another Chargers running back that's going to fill the Justin Jackson void? I think we're just going to see a ton of Austin Eckler. I mean, they know Gordon's coming back. Like, they don't – even if they get ahead, like, you know, they might work in another back, and I don't even honestly know who that is.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Trial name Pope. Is it Tremaine Pope? Okay. Yeah. See, that's why we have Rich on. Lord Reeves, baby. I was just looking it up, but he's already on it. Yeah, I mean, he might get work in the second half,
Starting point is 00:08:51 but why wouldn't they just go with Eckler knowing that they have Gordon coming back next week and they can give Eckler a little bit of a breather next week? Yeah, Eckler. I was kind of nervous about paying up for Eckler on FanDuel, and now I'm not at all. It just makes too much sense. And Darius Leonard is out for the Colts,
Starting point is 00:09:08 and T.Y. Hilton did not practice. So there's that. All right, we'll get to the emails. I wanted to ask you, Rich, what's sort of your fantasy football process? What are the things you look at when making decisions? Oh, yes. I mean, I write a weekly article called The Weekly Worksheet. process, what are the things you look at when making decisions? Oh, yeah. So I mean, I write a weekly article called the weekly worksheet. I've been doing it for seven years now. It's kind of floated around from site to site. And it was at NBC for the past
Starting point is 00:09:34 three years, but now it's at Sharp Football. And it's kind of similar to kind of what Ben does. I mean, I'm taking a top down view of usage of players. That's kind of what I want to look at. I want to see who's on the field, who's getting uh used and then i'm applying it to the matchups you know of that of that given week um and then i'm throwing in like a bunch of like great like statistical nuggets something like if you're watching the game with your father-in-law you could throw out to him and you know you'll you'll sound look smart if they oh i didn't know you knew that you know you'll look good uh watching the games with your family but yeah i'm really just looking at usage and then applying it to the matchups and then then we're going to go from there.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Do you feel like you still need to impress your father-in-law? Yeah, always. I mean, that's, I mean, listen, I feel like when my kids get old enough to where I am a father-in-law, I want to at least let them know that I'm applying pressure at all times.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Very good, very good. All right. Well, you heard me mention FanDuel and Austin Eckler is in my FanDuel lineup and you are all invited to play FanDuel against me. Go to FanDuel.com slash league slash FFT and join our little fantasy football today contest for just $5. Now let's say you want a $5 bonus to use toward that contest. So you basically don't even have to pay for it every week. Well, you sign up at FanDuel if you're a new user. You go to FanDuel.com slash FFT. FanDuel.com slash FFT.
Starting point is 00:10:52 You make a $20 deposit and you get an extra $5 in site credit every week for four weeks. You know, FanDuel is awesome because you don't have to worry about tough matchups. You can find the ones you like. You can get Daniel Jones on your team because he's the best quarterback in football. We love Daniel Jones. He's going to be great this week. And he's like the 13th or 15th most expensive quarterback. Something like that. Go ahead and put Daniel Jones
Starting point is 00:11:13 on your FanDuel roster. I know I will in some leagues. So that's the other thing. You can play as many contests as you want. You can spread out your money however you want. A dollar contest, $10, $25. They have all these different contests for you to feel comfortable with. So get as many good players as you want on your teams. It's a lot of fun. And if you sign up at fanduel.com slash FFT or you download the FanDuel app if you're a new user, you get $5 in site credit every week for
Starting point is 00:11:39 four weeks if you deposit 20 bucks. One more time, fanduel.com slash FFT. All right, you guys have written us your questions. Let's get to them. First, we'll do some trades, and then we'll do some regulating. It says start and sit. Mitch from Des Moines. My starting Ingram is... My starting Ingram.
Starting point is 00:11:56 My starting tight end is Evan Ingram, but I also have Darren Waller. Pause to take victory lap. All right, good job. Is Waller a viable option for my flex spot going forward, or should I be looking to trade him? I also have Marlon Mack, Larry
Starting point is 00:12:12 Fitzgerald, and John Brown. So, Rich, what would you do? Would you try to trade Waller or just keep him? Yeah, I mean, I'm going to try to move one of those tight ends just because tight end is such a vacant hole for so many teams out there in the fantasy world. So, I mean, I want to take one of those guys and move them for another position that i can have that's functional a running back or a wide receiver if you can make
Starting point is 00:12:31 that type of decision as far as playing the dual tight ends you know if you can flex the tight end it really the tight ends just don't score on par with receivers it's tough even when you see a guy like darren waller have the 13 catches last week i mean if you can get 13 catches every week he can but i mean that's that's probably on the top end of the spectrum range of outcomes for him uh would you look at like a weekly layout i mean the top receivers are just gonna outscore the top tight ends uh so i mean i want to flip one of those guys for running back or wide receiver all right let's go to uh jaga i don't know j-e-g-a. I don't know. J-E-G-A. Should I drop Baker Mayfield and pick up blank, Ben? Pick Daniel Jones.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Yeah, I mean, I don't know. If Daniel Jones is available, I think he's a viable option this week. Spoiler alert. He's not available because he's so good that everybody wanted him because he's so good. I'm a Giants fan, Rich. This is the only thing I've been happy about in like seven years. So my son is a huge Giants fan, and he's been ecstatic.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I already got him the Danny Dimes Roto-Wear shirt. I don't know. How are you on the nickname? Where do you come out on the nickname? I hate it. I don't even think he likes it. So I think we can do better than that. Even like Indiana Jones would be better than danny dimes i'm sorry so adam i gotta give you a little background on
Starting point is 00:13:52 this his son back like when the madden ratings came out oh yeah rich was tweeting about how his son was just furious that the daniel jones had such a low madden rating and this is back with the whole you know the whole fantasy Twitter world hated Daniel Jones still and didn't think he was very good. So it was pretty funny. And it turns out Rich's 14-year-old son is the only one who knew all along. Very nice. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:14:16 His father-in-law is going to be very impressed by that story at some point. You know, I do want to talk about Mayfield, though. I feel like I'm the only person in the world. Well, there's probably a few people. I kind of feel like he could be good this week. And I'm not quite as down on him as the fantasy community is. Where do you guys stand on Baker? I'm not cutting him yet.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I mean, I still think there's plenty of upside in this offense. I'm definitely concerned. The issues with the offense are very clearly scheme related they're they're just i think freddie kitchens is overmatched i think we've seen enough already to believe that so i'm pretty concerned when rich was saying the only team that could go into miami and lose is a chargers the only franchise that could do that i was thinking in my head well the browns could probably do it too rich where do you uh where do you stand on baker yeah i mean we still want to hold because just the attachment to some of the pieces they the Browns could probably do it too. Rich, where do you, uh, where do you stand on Baker?
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah. I mean, we still want to hold because he just the attachment to some of the pieces they have in that offense, but I mean, uh, Ben hit the nail on the head. I mean, you look at some of the scheme, it's just, they're, they're running too much stuff downfield. They're trying to push things too far downfield. And if Baker's developed some bad habits, you look at, uh, his splits, he's been sacked on 24% of his pressure dropbacks this season. That's the sixth highest. Last year he was 16th or 27th at 16% of getting sacked on his pressure dropbacks. So he was getting pressure still at a similar rate, but getting rid of the football, not taking any sacks. We saw it on that Sunday night game. I mean, he's just flooding right, you know, holding the ball too long, taking bad sacks.
Starting point is 00:15:44 We need to see him kind of get back into some good habits. And the way to that is for them to start you know running some stuff in the intermediate tertiary part of the field you know quick releases and stuff like that it seems like they like that's the kind of thing that a coaching staff should be able to fix you don't see good quarterbacks do that you when he comes off the field the coach should be talking to him about where the ball should have been going where the hot read is where the shorter route is. And it's happening over and over again. You see these mistakes occasionally, but the fact that it's the same mistake and it's repeating itself where Baker's holding the ball too long and turning and running and basically playing backyard football, running backwards and chucking off his back foot, you see those
Starting point is 00:16:21 kinds of bad habits sometimes. But that's the kind of stuff that a good coach recognizes and addresses and schemes to fix and that's where i think that it's more on kitchens almost because it's natural for him to for baker to play a little bit wild if he's getting pressured that's what the coaches have to step in and be like here's what we you know we were scheming for you here's what you need to do here's the read you need to make here's where the ball needs to be uh well yeah i think the offensive line is a big problem for them too it's all related legitimate issue you can't you he can't drop back and pass right now uh who would you guys rather have rest of season and we'll move on daniel jones or baker mayfield oh man i'll take baker it's a serious question i mean it is
Starting point is 00:17:00 but it's that's why i said oh man i, I think you could make a case for Daniel Jones, but I'm going to take Baker. Yeah, I would, too. Like I said, just the attachment to personnel. And then after this, I mean, you got the – we had a great Daniel Jones game against the Bucs, probably have a real solid game against the Redskins. But, you know, some of these other stickier matchups, we'll see how he responds.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, I will take Baker. Okay, this is from a small town. It's south of Louisville. I don't know, Rich. I don't know how your geography is, but if you'd like to throw out of town, you feel free. I wanted to get some feedback on my trade. I gave up Tyrell Williams for Chris Carson.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I also have Julio Jones, Juju, and Godwin. So I gave up Tyrell Williams for Chris Carson. Sure. I mean, I'm worried about Carson, but I would do that, especially when you have good receivers. All right, cool. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's what trading is about,
Starting point is 00:17:53 is taking something that you have in surplus and finding someone that needs it and has something you need. A little controversy here. I know you guys didn't hear this on the show. It was Thursday, I believe. This is from Shannon in Pittsburgh. Now, oh, here's another thing that we do on Fantasy Football today, Rich. People give us greetings, and we have to guess them,
Starting point is 00:18:12 and Ben is just awful at it. I'm real bad at this, but Rich will be good at it. Yeah, Rich will definitely be good at this. Hey, Ace, Paul, Chris, and Gene. We've got to go Ace, right? Well, no. No, you're trying to guess the common thread between ace paul chris and gene yeah and i have no i'm pretty sure that's kiss oh it's kiss okay yeah i'm pretty sure all right so here's the question from shannon on the 926 show adam seemed to be inconsistent about his idea of the use of fantasy intel.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Adam called out the use of Melvin Gordon's return as shady when trading Eckler with another owner who might not have seen the news. Yet later in the podcast, he used the term good intel to describe Heath's addition of Jags rookie running back Rykel Armstead based on info that Pete Prisco drink provided to Jamie. Why is it okay to use Intel to fleece all the owners in a league when picking up a player that others may not know about versus just using Intel to fleece one clueless owner in a trade? Do you need more background? Does this make sense? Yeah. So who knew about the...
Starting point is 00:19:18 That was a write-in situation. So Pete Prisco mentioned that the Jaguars might be wanting to get Rykel Armstead more involved. And then Heath went and picked up Armstead. I said, oh, that's good use of intel or whatever I said. But earlier in the show, I said that I think it's shady if you as the Austin Eckler owner had just heard about
Starting point is 00:19:37 the breaking news that Melvin Gordon was going to return. And then you immediately went and offered Austin Eckler to someone who you thought maybe didn't know the news. And you try to rip that owner off i would never do something like that i think it's poor fantasy ethics and i think there's a huge difference between picking up a player based on something that you heard from an expert and then go trying to like abuse a clueless fantasy owner who might not be at his or her phone and seeing the breaking news that like i think it's completely different and i stand by that you should not have offered austin eckler i mean i agree with you on the eckler thing but the heath heath getting i
Starting point is 00:20:10 mean that's basically like intro insider trading right there he gets some information he said it on fantasy football today he said it on a on our video show he wasn't like was that going live yeah yeah yeah well then there i, that's fair enough. Okay. So I win this argument. This is from Quad Man. I traded Saquon Barkley and Jarvis Landry for Nick Chubb and Brandon Cooks. Was this a good trade for me, Rich? I traded Saquon and Jarvis Landry for Chubb and Cooks.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah. You traded a guy that's not playing and is injured. So, I mean, one thing that uh you probably don't know about me ed was i am completely a guy that's against acquiring or having any injury optimism of players it's just a hard rule i have sometimes it's right sometimes it's wrong it's usually mostly right is injury optimism is a hill so many fantasy players have died on uh and over the years and we all have done it uh so i mean i'm not someone that's actively trying to scoop up saquon
Starting point is 00:21:05 with saying I'm going to just get to use him in my playoffs. So, I mean, you can trade a guy that's not playing, might be out up to eight weeks for someone you can use now, especially a guy like Nick Chubb, and then you're upgrading Landry to Brandon Cooks. I mean, I'm all for that. Yeah, yeah. The second part of that trade is terrific.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Landry for Cooks. Yeah. Zach in Wisco. Dear Amos, Richard, Willie, and Jerome. Those are Pittsburgh Steelers running backs. Amos Zerway, Jerome Bettis, Richard Mendenhall, and Willie Parker. Did you Google that? No.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Good for you. That's got to be Pittsburgh running backs, right? Yeah, it must be. Good for you. It's beautiful. Gray the Trade in PPR. I was the Cam Newton owner. I traded John Brown and Tyrell Williams for Deshaun Watson.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Grade it? Yeah. I mean, it kind of depends. He has good other receivers. Yeah, no, I'll give that a C+. I'm never really big on on trying to acquire a big name quarterback uh and i still think having depth of receivers important but he does have a lot of other good receivers those are two pretty good receivers but they were waiver
Starting point is 00:22:17 wire ads for him that's a good trade yeah i mean that's deshaun watson has to be a legitimate difference maker at quarterback we just saw daniel Daniel Jones come out of nowhere and be like, if Daniel Jones can be 80% of Deshaun Watson the rest of the year, you just gave up stuff for something you could have gotten really close to on the waiver wire is kind of the point I'm making. But I do think Deshaun Watson is basically that guy. We just haven't seen a lot of optimism. I mean, he's been fine. He's had two of his three games have been like amazing right last week was big i'm just concerned that he's not hooking up a little fuller enough i guess i mean he obviously had the tight ends i don't think that's going to
Starting point is 00:22:53 continue uh the the tight end production and yeah i mean what like i'm not trying to talk negatively about john watson but i'm just a little bit concerned about trading two viable receivers for a quarterback. Yeah, you have to be deep at receiver, and he is. It's from B. Smitty. Dear Dewey, cheat him and how? Oh, that's like, hey, Dewey, cheat him and how? Yeah, yeah, okay. In non-PPR, give up Juju to get Wentz and Melvin Gordon.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Would you do that, Rich? Give up Juju to get Wentz and Melvin Gordon. I mean, only if you need a running back and you're okay at wide receiver. If you ran into something after, you probably took Juju in the first round or the first, second round turn. That's the part of the trade that you're looking at
Starting point is 00:23:36 because the rest of the quarterback side just falls into what Ben just talked about. You know, Juju, he's just kind of, I think he's just going to live in that wide receiver three area. He is a guy that his expected points are exactly lined up with his actual fantasy points, which is pretty wild. A lot of people think he's actually underperformed, but he's just underperformed draft capital.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Just not his, uh, the types of targets he's getting. He's actually right on par with what he's been getting. So how would you not say this is a great trade if you're giving up Juju to get, forget about Wentz, but I mean, I wouldn't forget about Wentz cause I you know i think he's good but but just to get melvin gordon i think it's especially a non-ppr i think this is a terrific trade yeah that's a good trade i think too especially as eckler he's he's acquiring melvin gordon by the way folks fantasy analysts hate quarterbacks i think we just heard it twice. We do. It's true.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Nick in Spokane. Where are you fellas at with Jimmy Garoppolo and his long-term outlook? Let me read the second part of this. This is actually pretty funny. Am I crazy to say I see a future where Gardner Minshew is a better fantasy option for the next five years than Garoppolo? So this is a dynasty question. And I'm going to say yes, you're crazy. I don't think, well, I mean, maybe you're not crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I could imagine it. But I'm still, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo has the contract. I'm still totally buying into the fact that he's going to continue to play a ton over the next couple of years. And he hasn't started a ton. Like some bumps in the road is is a little bit to be expected i still think you have to like we don't even know if minchu is gonna play
Starting point is 00:25:11 after this year is my point yeah no but but you got to take garoppolo over minchu but how are you feeling about him do you think he's a franchise quarterback gardner minchu no Garoppolo. Sorry. I don't have a strong opinion on him, but I know Rich is a 49ers fan, so let's get Rich's take on Jimmy Garoppolo. I mean, it's kind of up in the air. He's kind of a mixed bag. If you look at just his yards per attempts in San Francisco,
Starting point is 00:25:39 I mean, they're just incredible. I mean, just a little under nine, but he throws a lot of interceptions, and he doesn't really run, you know, which we like. I like my quarterbacks to run. I prefer it, actually. So, I mean, he's kind of just this mixed bag of and he doesn't have like any alpha weapons on offense, which I always like to have with my quarterback as well. So he's just kind of kind of system generated right now and really doesn't put up these big games for fantasy, even though with his stats, you know, the passing yards and yards per attempt, because like I said,
Starting point is 00:26:06 he doesn't throw for a lot of touchdowns and he doesn't run. So he's just kind of like one of those perpetual QB2 type of guys. But Minshew may not even play. Yeah. He's kind of like a poor man's Kirk Cousins. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:19 So on a scale of one to Daniel Jones, like where would you put it? But people may have heard what you just said about not having like an ace I don't know what you said but exactly but George Kittle is not that kind of guy you don't think for Garoppolo yeah I mean he's a tight end though I mean I mean you have those guys
Starting point is 00:26:38 that Kittle and Kelsey there's a limited a limited grouping of those guys but he doesn't have like these big wide receivers and then you know like I said he's not running either and getting you those guys, but he doesn't have these big wide receivers. And then, you know, like I said, he's not running either and getting you those bonus points. I think go up like poor man's Kirk Cousins or just maybe
Starting point is 00:26:53 a rich man's Kirk Cousins. Yeah, he might be a rich man's Kirk Cousins. I was thinking like Cousins with the Redskins, not Cousins with the Redskins. Okay, moving on here. This is from Brazil Boy. I'm in a guillotine league where the lowest scoring team
Starting point is 00:27:07 each week is eliminated and their players are put on waivers. How much of Fab, $500, are you using for a top tier round one player like Zeke? Are you spending big early or trying to save your Fab until the end? So every week, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:20 you've got guys that are available. So how much would you spend on like the elite players out of a $500 budget? I think I would spend early. Then you have the guy longer. You're helping. I mean, I've never played in a guillotine league,
Starting point is 00:27:31 but I think saving it is pretty presumptuous because you can get knocked out any week if you have the low score. So I think like if you get a Zeke, you get him the rest of the year. Hopefully he helps you avoid getting knocked out for the next couple of months. And he's helpful in the playoffs. Would you spend $450 of a $500 budget on Ezekiel Elliott? Man, I just don't know enough about guillotine leagues.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I think probably because there's guys coming in every single year, that seems like a high thing to do for any individual. Every week there's new guys getting dropped. That seems like a high thing to do for any individual player. But a guy like Zeke maybe it's maybe it's viable yeah they do uh it's he's gonna go for that much anyways and I don't know if this guy's individual league uh this owner's individual league and he's been gauging the first three weeks but uh I've been one and Saquon was available week one and he went for 90 obviously now that looks terrible in hindsight
Starting point is 00:28:22 because he lost Saquon but You hit it on the head. You want to have these guys as long as possible because you're playing the week-to-week game. If it's a top-five option, like he was a top-five draft pick, and you're just adding one of those off of waivers with fab money to your already roster that survived for three weeks.
Starting point is 00:28:39 You're actually not one of the worst teams in the league already if you're adding that to your roster. I would go heavy on one of those caliber starting option like that. Yeah. I don't know if this is more of a baseball thing or not, but it would also depend to me if you could do $0 bids throughout the league, throughout the season, just to kind of get by with kickers and DSTs and whatnot,
Starting point is 00:28:58 because that, that is going to make a big difference. Steven from the flowers. Let's go rapid fire here to finish this segment. Steven from the flower city, dear Peyton, Andrew to finish this segment. Stephen from the Flower City. Dear Peyton, Andrew, Johnny, and Earl, those are Colts quarterbacks. I have three quarterbacks on my roster.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, and Jameis Winston. Who do I keep in a six-point per passing touchdown league? Kyler. Why does he have three quarterbacks? It's the wrong crowd to be asking that question. You have two too many quarterbacks. I would probably keep Kyler,
Starting point is 00:29:28 and I'd probably just cut both of the other two. I would probably keep Kyler and Jameis. This is from Stefan in Brooklyn. Last week, this is the last week to cheaply pick up Golden Tate, Antonio Callaway, Chris Herndon, and Ben Watson. Wow, I haven't even heard about Ben Watson. What do you think the rest of season value looks like? I love Herndon because Adam Gase is doing the thing he did in Miami
Starting point is 00:29:54 where he's playing all starters over 90% snap shares. They're like the only ones touching the ball. And that has meant Ryan Griffin's been playing a ton. I think that's just an indication that when Herndon comes back, maybe not the first game he's back, but pretty quickly he's going to be playing above 90% of the snaps, running a ton. I think that's just an indication that when Herndon comes back, maybe not the first game he's back, but pretty quickly he's going to be playing above 90% of the snaps, running a ton of routes, and Sam Donald's going to be back. So I kind of like buying low on some of the Jets.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Herndon's a guy that I'm – like the leagues I was talking about earlier where I'm playing Vernon Davis, part of that's because I drafted Herndon to like auctions where I spent a buck on Herndon and I've been holding him. It's kind of killed me over the first couple weeks because I don't really have any good tight ends to play, but I'm expecting big things from him. And Tate, I mean, Tate needs to be I think should be picked up too.
Starting point is 00:30:31 When you have that good of a quarterback, you know, you should probably get going with Tate. I'm not that big on Tate, but Rich, where are you at on Tate? I mean, he's fine. How many weapons are we expecting, you know, Daniel Jones?ate? I mean, he's fine. I mean, how many weapons are we expecting, you know, Daniel Jones? So, I mean, Pocket Aces expected him to, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:49 definitely support the whole offense. But losing Saquon helps Golden Tate. It helps him a little bit, where I probably would have been a little more down with Saquon still there. Now he's the fourth option, but now he's at least at worst the third. Are you calling me Pocket Aces because of my initials? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I'm really bad at poker, just to let you know. Did you figure that out? No, I assumed. But I just wanted to make sure. You get on me for not picking up things quickly. I picked it up. Right when he said it, I was like, oh, that's a good nickname, AA. Listen, I have
Starting point is 00:31:26 been AA for 35 years and no one's ever called me Pocket Aces, so I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something here. Guys, do you ever feel like ticketing websites make getting to the event difficult on purpose? If you do, that's because you have a new SeatGeek. SeatGeek makes it
Starting point is 00:31:42 really, really easy. I remember back in the day, I used to go on Craigslist and find shady people who were selling tickets and then meet them somewhere and pick up tickets. Well, we don't have to do that anymore. And I would also search like four or five websites and then I'd finally find the seats I was looking for. But I can do it all on SeatGeek, which by the way, has over 50,000 five-star reviews in the app store. How's that for customer satisfaction? SeatGeek just has a better process. SeatGeek pulls together millions of tickets from all over the web.
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Starting point is 00:32:46 offer on a great, great ticketing app. It's SeatGeek and the promo code is FFT for $10 off. How are you enjoying the show so far, Rich? Oh, it's been a blast. I mean, we should have my son on just to talk about the NFL.
Starting point is 00:33:02 You and him would get along very well. I'm sure we would, although I don't play Madden. I'm not good at poker, so I don't know if that would matter at all. You're about to enter the most exciting part of fantasy football today. It is time to regulate. We've got commissioner emails.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Here we go. This is from Adam in New York. I'm in a fairly serious home league, and we just found out that one team member was, quote, running late for our online draft, so he had a ringer draft for him. Only issue is his ringer was an industry guy whose part-time job is fantasy football analyst.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Now, this guy's team is an absolute wagon, 3-0 in most fantasy points so far. We just found this out, and we're all kind of pissed. What should we do about it, if anything? So I've done this for people around my neighborhood. Multiple times. The Draft Day Consultant site we both worked for for a little bit. Yeah, I mean, I don't think you can really do much of anything here
Starting point is 00:34:05 that's like how different is that from him getting advice from somebody it's different it's different i'd say there are no ringers advanced football though let me clearly state that yeah that's true like well we haven't talked about the podcast league i'm that that i'm in much with ben schrager but i'm the only oh and3 team right now against a bunch of the podcast listeners. You know what? The thing about the podcast league is that everybody you're playing with listens to everything you say, knows the guys you want, knows all your sleepers, breakouts, and busts,
Starting point is 00:34:36 and probably thinks very similar to you. So it's always an extremely competitive league. I would be a little bit pissed off if I were just like, you know, if I had found out that a fantasy football analyst stood in for someone, I would be a little bothered by it. Now, when I stand in for people, they're like, oh, Adam Azer's doing my
Starting point is 00:34:54 draft. They're like, okay, great. That's more money for us. If he just did it out of courtesy, though, as long as he wasn't paid, like he didn't pay for the service, I'm okay with it. I think I'd be mad about it, but wouldn't do anything. Does that make sense? Yeah, I think it's fair to be mad about i just want to clarify with the with the home league or with the uh the podcast league because i want any of the podcast listeners that are listening these guys are scoring so many points against me i have like 20 more points against than any other
Starting point is 00:35:17 team i'm like middle of the road in points four and oh and three they're killing me oh well maybe next year when you're in it, you can do like the sixth playoff spot goes to the guy who has the most points or the girl. Yeah. I'm going to have to change the rules because I'm my only 0-3 team against the podcast listener. Next up, let's regulate for Sam. I have a league that has great members
Starting point is 00:35:41 and a great league manager, but I hate one extreme rule that I can't stand. They play that the DST gets minus a point for every point allowed. So every defense is projected and scores negative points. They think it makes the league unique. I say it makes the defense the most important position, which is dumb. Thoughts? I've been trying to battle this for years. And like I said, great league manager, great league members, but I hate this scoring to make the league, quote, different.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yeah, I hate this too. I mean, I'm assuming there's a rule that you absolutely have to start a defense and you can't bench them because everybody would probably just try to bench one. This is really silly. I'm not a big fan of this. I don't think that it makes the defense the most important position necessarily i mean there's going to be a wide range between different defenses but if every defense you know it's just like what we talk about with quarterbacks if every
Starting point is 00:36:35 quarterback is scoring a ton of points and you know the the difference between the different quarterbacks is not as big then they're not as valuable as their raw number. And same thing with D. Yeah, you want one that's not going to give you a ton of negative points here. If you started the Packers DST last night, you were down 35, whatever, 31 points, whatever it was. Yeah, no, it would definitely be important to not have it. And even if you have a good, like the reason this is bad is defenses are, the best way to pick a fantasy defense is the opposing offense.
Starting point is 00:37:07 So even if you have the Ravens playing against the Chiefs, then what are you going to do? Are you going to cut the Ravens now? You need to stream every week. I imagine the FAB is getting spent on defenses like crazy. I'm not a big fan of this setup at all. It's terrible. It's the most insane thing I've ever heard. It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Because you're just inviting variants into the game. And it's the one thing that we just hate, not as analysts, but as players. It's just stuff that's completely out of your control. And you're talking about points allowed in the year of 2019 football. Like, everyone scores points. Yeah, I mean, if you had the Patriots DST in this league, you're probably 3-0 on your way to 4-0. I guess it probably is the most important position in this. It really is, Ben.
Starting point is 00:37:49 It is, by a lot. This is from Shep. We have a penalty for last place in our league that goes to the regular season winner. This year, we had a team tie for the last place record. I think he means a financial penalty. So the team tied for the last place record. I think he means a financial penalty. So the team tied for the last place record. Our fantasy website placed one team...
Starting point is 00:38:08 Nailing it today. Thank you, thank you. One team ninth and one team tenth. We believe it's due to the head-to-head tiebreaker. However, there's no explanation in the rules as to why one team finished ninth and the other team finished tenth. Should they split the cost of the penalty,
Starting point is 00:38:26 or should the team that the website made 10th pay all $25 themselves? I say if you didn't have a tiebreaker for this specific penalty established, then they got to split it. Okay. I'm for that. $12.50. $12.50 each. A chipotle burrito for each of you oh that sounds really good but not as good as some pizza baby have you ordered pizza online
Starting point is 00:38:54 from little caesars yet if not you're missing out on pizza portal pickup what is pizza portal pickup it's like getting a pizza right out of the oven yourself you walk in you enter a code on the portal the door opens and you're off with your favorite pizza. And whatever pizza you order, it'll have crazy, crazy amounts of toppings. It's fun. Give it a try, but it's only available at Little Caesars Pizza Pizza. And that's funny because when I had Little Caesars for the telethon a couple months ago, well, that's probably like one month ago, I had to have it cold because everybody ate the damn pizza before i got off the air i was supposed to have a pizza
Starting point is 00:39:30 eating contest with dave richard on the air it never happened i was so disappointed i would have beaten him and radio too uh no it was video it was video it was for our video telethon and then i you know then everybody ate all the little Caesars before I could get to it. So the pizza portal would have been great. Check it out. All right, let's do some starter set, guys. This is from Eddie. Marquise Brown, Tyler Boyd, or DJ Chark?
Starting point is 00:39:55 Boyd for me. Boyd, yeah. Tyler Boyd. Eric in Maine. Hey, Dennis, Mac, Charlie, D, and Frank. It's always sunny. It just came back. It's back?
Starting point is 00:40:07 It's still going? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Not a fan. Great show. The scene where Frank comes out of the sofa naked is like the funniest thing I've ever seen. It does have some amazing moments. I still remember watching the first
Starting point is 00:40:25 episode I ever saw that and I was rolling off a couch in college crying so like this is like 2006 or something I don't it's been on for like 14 years I'm not yeah it's a show that's grown it's a show that's grown though from where it started off and it's a great you know self reflection of kind of everything that's changed in the world you know think about what they've done the last few seasons. Interesting. It's not that I don't like it. For whatever reason, I never made time for it.
Starting point is 00:40:51 It's like the wire. Half PPR and 0.2 points per carry. I need to sit one. Edelman, Evans, Fournette, carry on Johnson. Ooh, that's tough. I really like Edelman this week with Tredavious White on Josh Gordon, but the.2 points per carry, pretty big boost to Fournette and carry on, right? I'm sitting Evans.
Starting point is 00:41:15 You're not sitting Evans? Evans just scored 9 million points last week. Okay, so the Rams, in their last 10 games, they have allowed more than 19 fantasy points to two quarterbacks. That was Nick Mullins in Week 17 and Dak Prescott, who had a rushing touchdown. They smother passing games. They're just so good against wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So I am afraid. They allow the second fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. Sorry, I was looking for the numbers. There have been four receivers with nine or more targets against the Rams. DJ Moore, Michael Thomas, Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry. None of them scored a touchdown. So I am quite concerned about Mike Evans this week. I mean, I have to start him, but these are great options.
Starting point is 00:41:54 So I would sit him for Edelman, Kerryon Johnson, and Fournette personally. How about you, Rich? I think just the way the scoring's set up, I would lean Evans just for the touchdown odds. He could have a terrible game and still score a touchdown and beat Edelman, I think. If it was full PPR, I would be in on everything you laid out, especially the splits. Since Tlaib's come back from that injury last year, they've just been sensational,
Starting point is 00:42:18 and they've already started off third and wide receiver points allowed this year against pretty good receivers, the Panthers, the Saints, and the Browns. So I definitely see it being more of a game where you expect more of a floor game from Mike Evans, but we were talking about just half PPR. We still want to chase the touchdown upside a little bit. I think you can get a little edge, have a crummy game and still might score. Okay, so you're going to sit Edelman? Yeah, I'm going to play the running backs for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I like Kerry on a lot this week. All right, this is from Sasquatch. Dear Frankie Carbone, Mo Black's brother, Fat Andy, Freddy No-Nose, Pete the Killer, who was Sally Balls' brother, and Jimmy Two Times. Oh, God. Good fellas? Yeah, it's good fellas.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You got it this time. Should I start Chris Thompson or Kenyon Drake? it's good fellas you got it this time should i start chris thompson um or kenyan drake uh i'll take john uh thompson same if mclovin is out does that help chris thompson sure someone's got to catch passes for him i mean right yeah we didn't mention that earlier uh from adam mclovin though of course i call him mclovin one who no mclovin is so much better than f1 everybody knows mclovin only like nascar people know f1 that's not true it's true for me i didn't know what it was i just want to know scary terry first all, someone already has the nickname Scary Terry
Starting point is 00:43:45 You don't get to pick your nickname anyways Yeah, so Scary Terry Is that Rick and Morty? Is that what that is? But Terry Rozier already Has it from the Celtics So, I mean, we can't claim it Just like Hollywood, man, listen I know everyone wants, and Hollywood Brown, there was already
Starting point is 00:44:02 Swatter rights, I mean, you can't have it I'm sorry, it's Marquise Brown, I would never call you Hollywood Brown, there was already squatter rights. I mean, you can't have it. I'm sorry. It's Marquise Brown. I would never call you Hollywood Brown because it was already claimed. He's from Hollywood, though. It doesn't matter. I think it's some exceptions. Okay, where are we here?
Starting point is 00:44:16 From Adam PPR, who should I start at flex? LeSean McCoy or Kerryon Johnson? Got to be Kerryon. I'm with Rich. I really like Kerry on this week. I mean, he had a massive uptick in snaps and his entire role after the CJ Anderson release. He got the goal line touches. We got to be really,
Starting point is 00:44:33 really optimistic about carry on going forward. But why wouldn't you also feel that way about McCoy? Cause I mean, I'm excited. He got re-injured last week and he left the game early and he's been limited in practice all week. I do really like McCoy as a lead back for the Chiefs, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I'd go with the healthy back. All right. That's fair. Blake from Florida. Who do you all like better between Rivers and Brady? Oh, Rivers for sure. Oh, yeah. That's an easy one.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah. JP, Lamar Jackson or Jared Goff? Jackson. Always Jackson. Yeah. You got to go with Jackson. I mean, again, why do you have both Lamar Jackson and Jared Goff? Jackson. Always Jackson. Yeah, you've got to go with Jackson. Again, why do you have both Lamar Jackson and Jared Goff on your roster? I have to ask because you're going to ask this question how many more times throughout the year.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Goff's home road splits are very Breezian or Roethlisbergian. He's averaged 25 fantasy points at home since the start of last year. He's averaged 17 on the road, 336 passing yards at home. He's playing a defense this week in the Bucs that's going to be probably a pass funnel, and the Giants figured it out last week. They've played Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, and the 49ers running backs and only allowed 160 rushing yards to those backfields. Todd Bowles' history is stopping the run, you know, too.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I mean, but they don't have the secondary to guard anyone. You've got to like Goff this week for sure. No, no, I'm with you. But Reeves, can I call you Reeves? Yeah, absolutely. All right, so Reeves, you say, why are you going to own Jackson and Goff? And then you gave the answer
Starting point is 00:46:03 because you can't start Jared Goff on the road until further notice. Of course you're going to start. But you're always going to play Lamar Jackson anywhere. Well, maybe, but what are you going to do? Drop Lamar Jackson? Drop Jared Goff? No, no. You've got to try to sell him for something.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Yeah. A package. You've got to package up. Goffing something to a team that is streaming or playing a guy like Baker that's frustrated playing Baker or all these quarterbacks. Are you guys in on Lamar Jackson? I know he had a bad game in week three.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Do you feel like he is a must-start rest of season? Rich coined this term, the Konami code. The old regular Nintendo, up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B-A-S-T right left right bas start uh code for running quarterbacks so rich is the guy to ask on this okay so isn't it select start
Starting point is 00:46:51 i always should start he just says start i i i'm always on select so select and start technically aren't even part of the code it just starts the game oh really so it's select start with so you have to select start to start the game a few players or start just at one player so neither one are technically part of the actual code get the hell out of here yeah that's true just because the each that those buttons just start the game you waited 46 minutes to tell me this this should have been like right out at the top of the show but i wrote that i wrote an article in 2013 about running quarterbacks and i know dubbed that phrase the
Starting point is 00:47:25 comic code. It's gone around the circles of fantasy for a while. It's kind of what my calling card is. But it just highlights the floor of running quarterbacks. So Lamar Jackson now has made 10 career starts. He's the only quarterback in NFL history that's had 15 or more fantasy points in all 10 of his first career starts, just because the floor is so high because of the rushing ability. And then when you get the touchdowns or you get any passing juice at all the ceiling is just
Starting point is 00:47:49 astronomical he's thrown for the current 50 yards crazy too yeah it's it's insane so you're getting a high floor already uh which is what we play the quarterback position for anyways it's how we stream and it's we play it from the floor up because that's how the scoring works and then you have uh that floor paired with just a uber high ceiling where it can be the highest score on any slate uh i mean he's just a guy i will never i would never mention to be honest i would never ever mention okay is that only for contra that game or is that like for other for that i think it actually has been applied to other games but contra was the first game that it you know was that you it was for, but I think they've used the comic code in multiple games. I mean, you'd have to wiki it,
Starting point is 00:48:28 but I know that it's been used in other stuff afterwards. I just remember doing Contra and getting 30 lives and just going to town. I want to ask you a video game question, if you don't mind, since it's my show, apparently. I love a game called Rygar,
Starting point is 00:48:44 and nobody really knows Rygar. Are you familiar with Rygar on Nintendo? I know the game, but I've not played it. I know the actual game, though. I know of it. Okay. Ben, Rygar? Nope.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Never heard of it. It's terrific. It was my favorite Nintendo game. All right. Well, everybody go out and play it. Let's see. We got from Challenger, half PPR, McCoy or Josh Jacobs? This is tough.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Jacobs is in a good spot against the Colts, right, with Darius Leonard out. And then McCoy, we just talked about with the injury, but I think I'm still going to go with the KC lead back here, assuming he's good to go. You want to monitor the health stuff, but assuming he's pretty much good to go like he was last week, I want to play McCoy, I think. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:23 From Andrew, I need a wide receiver and a flex half PPR. Josh Gordon, Stefan Diggs, McCole Hardman. Pick a wide receiver. Gordon, Diggs, Hardman. Rich, who you got? Yeah, I think I want to go upside with Hardman.
Starting point is 00:49:40 It's a great Watkins game, too. We don't have to delve into that, but this is a great Watkins bounce back game. We need a flex. Gordon, Diggs, Rex Burkhead, Royce Freeman. Gordon, but I don't like the matchup. I mean, I'm worried about Diggs. I'd love to play him, but I'm already worried about him
Starting point is 00:49:59 and now they're playing the Bears. I don't think you really want to start him. And those running backs, kind of uninspiring. I don't know. I think I'd go Gordon. What do't think you really want to start him. And those running backs kind of uninspiring. I don't know. I think I'd go Gordon. What do you think, Rich? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:09 I think you're just, yeah. You're trying to chase that touchdown. A lot of these guys, I mean, Diggs had two good games against the bears last year. One was with Stefanski. He said he had a touchdown in both games,
Starting point is 00:50:19 but it's just so hard. How do you play any of these Vikings guys at this point? What they've, what they've given us the sample size of these guys going back to the halfway point of last year and into this year, the start of it. And if you have Adam Thielen, I mean, you should be selling him on the principle of him having those touchdowns because his volume has not been there either. I know it's got to get better, but there's still too much fragility with both of these guys that I think if I have the opportunity to sell them, I want to sell them. All right, guys,
Starting point is 00:50:45 we got about 10 minutes left, so I'm going to go real fast here. I'm going to give this one to Ben, then to Rich, then to Ben, then to Rich. This is from Jay. I need a flex this week.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Phillip Lindsay, McCall Hardman, Daryl Williams, DJ Chark. I think you got to go, Lindsay. I don't like the matchup, but he,
Starting point is 00:51:02 he's getting the goal line work. Cody from Prince of Keem's favorite borough in New York City. That, of course, would be Queens. Give me two receivers and two flexes. A lot of guys here. All right. DJ Moore, Marquise Brown, Josh Gordon, Demarcus Robinson, Terry McLovin, Philip Dorsett, and Devante Freeman.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Who are you starting in that group, Rick? I need two, two and two? Yeah, well, three. Yeah need two and two? Yeah. At least three receivers. Only one running back here. Well, give me Marquise Brown for sure. Devontae Freeman.
Starting point is 00:51:35 And I already forgot half the guys. DJ Moore, Josh Gordon, Demarcus Robinson, Terry McLaurin, Phillip Dorsett. Well, McLaurin, if he plays, is absolutely in as well, if he's active. We're going to have to wait on that. It's probably trending to doubtful, though, if you didn't practice today. Probably trending to not.
Starting point is 00:51:52 So then I think you go Demarcus Robinson. And DJ Moore. Why not? Yep, sure. And Moore. Alright, this is from Mota. Should I start Danny Dimes, Daniel Jones, or Jameis Winston? I loved it.
Starting point is 00:52:11 You didn't even read the Jameis Winston nickname. Sorry, that turned me off. Famous Jameis. Famous Jameis? I don't even... Famous Amos. Cookies. I'm not a fan of that.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Come on. I would play... Daniel Jones. I think I would play Daniel Jones. Of course you would. This is from SNLuss. Of course you would. This is from SNLuss. Pick two of three.
Starting point is 00:52:30 McLaurin, if he plays. Godwin, Robert Woods. Yeah, so it would be McLaurin and Woods. And then if he doesn't play, your decision is made. From Moe. Pick a flex. Cooks, Devante Freeman, Sonny Michel. Cooks.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Brandon Cooks, I'm assuming. That's not a mistake, and it's like Jared Cook or somebody. Dalvin Cooks. Brandon Cooks. Excuse me. From Max, half PPR, Galladay, Boyd, or Mixon? Ooh, that's tough. Oh, yeah, that is a rough one. What was it?
Starting point is 00:53:03 I mean, is it full PPR? Half. Half. Half? Oh, baby. oh yeah that is a rough one what was it i mean is it full ppr half half half oh baby uh i think you gotta uh man that's tough because i want to say mixing just for the volume and i think you have to lean there but the other guys have better outlooks i think uh especially you know galaday bounce back against the chiefs yeah just that game is so much more potential just that game is so much more potential than that Steelers game that's a tough one yeah I think it is tough I think I would just play
Starting point is 00:53:30 the volume though I think I would just play mix in and hold my breath okay Nick Michael Thomas or Mike Evans what is this I can only start two of these guys sorry Michael Thomas Mike Evans. What is this? I can only start two of these guys.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Sorry. Michael Thomas, Mike Evans, Brandon Cooks, DJ Moore, Marquise Brown. Ben, pick two. I will play... Wow. We can throw out Evans and Moore, but I'm struggling between Brown, Cooks, and Thomas. I might sit Michael Thomas.
Starting point is 00:54:05 All right. Kyle in East Lansing, Michigan. Rich, Colts or Steelers DST? Oh, Colts. From Las Vegas, Joe. Jared Goff or Daniel Jones? I'm going to go Goff. And one more here for Rich. Will
Starting point is 00:54:22 Disley and Darren Waller. Who would you go with? Oh, man. I think you've got, and Darren Waller. Who would you go with? Oh, man. I think you've got to play Darren Waller. Just the value is so high. I know you want to chase the matchup. Okay. Well, look. We're almost out of time, but we can do a little more regulating.
Starting point is 00:54:38 This is from Nick. I need some assistance. I had a trade set up on Wednesday. I would be giving up Mack and Devante Adams. I would receive Bell and Cooks. Remember, this was before the game. Mac and Adams for Le'Veon Bell and Brandon Cooks. We have a commission that's new to the commissioning game.
Starting point is 00:54:55 He said he would not push the trade through before the Thursday game when the Packers play, even though we submitted the trade on Wednesday, and nobody in the league cared if it went through. I was the only one who would negatively be affected because Bell was on a buy and the Bell owner would get Adams this week. Because our trade did not go through, the Bell owner then traded Michael Thomas with someone else, and I'm out of my trade. Please regulate and tell our commission how to conduct a League of Gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Well, what's the protocol for trades? How long do they stay up? I don't know, but I hate that, man. Like, trades should go through basically immediately. No, yeah. The trade should go through before a game. You should never have this. If you have to call the people in your league and get a vote or something because you're worried about it, do it.
Starting point is 00:55:34 But, like, this kind of bureaucratic stuff where a trade doesn't go through because it's not within the window, I'm way against. I think this trade should have definitely gone through the second thing i don't understand the bell owner then goes and trades to someone else when he has an accepted trade that doesn't seem like that should be allowed either if you're not gonna allow a trade to go through the first trade should still be you know be the one that gets processed but i wouldn't but i think he's saying that because the thursday night game you know was impacted it impacted the trade that trade became like null and void. But why would the trade become null and void if it was already accepted? Because of Adams.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Because like, why would I make a trade if I'm not able to use, if I'm not, if I'm trading for Devante Adams on Wednesday and then all of a sudden I don't get to use him on Thursday, I'm gonna be like, screw that. I want to do the trade. So if it, I mean, this is just more of a reason why the trade should absolutely have gone through. You can't have a trade being null and void because I don't know. You're right, Ben. And it's been regulated.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Okay. This is from Jacob from a city with the worst traffic in the South. I think that, I think Atlanta, I think Atlanta, what do you guys think? Atlanta is pretty good. Nashville. I've been here.? Atlanta is pretty good. Nashville.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I've been hearing Nashville has bad drafts. I don't know. But I've heard that Nashville has bad drafts. Austin is terrible too. Is that the South? Is that the Southwest? I don't know if that counts. I don't know if that counts as South.
Starting point is 00:56:58 It's probably Atlanta. All right. Well, if Miami is in the South, then it's probably Miami. On Tuesday morning, two of my league mates made a trade. Amari Cooper for Austin Eckler and Golden Tate. After the Melvin Gordon news, the team that traded for Eckler went into the league group chat and tried to buy vetoes for $4 each. The trade did not end up getting vetoed, but a couple of league members accepted his offer of $4.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I think the parties involved should be punished. What say you, regulators? I'm hoping this is for fab dollars, by the way, and not for actual dollars. I think it sounds like for actual dollars because I don't know how they would have transferred fab dollars. This is obviously not kosher. can't uh do anything in within the league where you're offering benefits outside the league because that just opens up such a massive
Starting point is 00:57:54 can of worms where i mean i've had leagues where people were like oh i'll buy a pizza on sunday if you do this for me or you'd make this trade or whatever you can't have that it impacts the competitive balance of the league so yes this is a an egregious uh an egregious breaking of the rules this is would go down as collusion as far as i'm concerned i i don't know of a good punishment i i think we got to come up with some something unique i liked some of the ones we came up with a couple weeks ago like we said that people could just bench their best player on the team for that week that was pretty good that was a very. Rich, what do you think about this, trying to buy vetoes for an Austin Eckler trade?
Starting point is 00:58:30 I appreciate this guy's getting the worst of it anyways. Because one, he didn't get this trade vetoed. And I imagine the $4, because I would assume that they have $4 transactions. He's suggesting I'll cover a transaction for you or something. But he got screwed on both ends because one, he's holding the bag on Eckler now. And then two, he's got to pay those out because he promised he'd pay those people out. It doesn't matter if they got enough votes to veto it.
Starting point is 00:58:56 They still held up there in the bargain and vetoed it. So that guy has to pay that out still. Yeah, man. That's tough. He's going to put peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for a week now. He's spending all that money on vetoes. Also, if you're trading for Eckler, you knew the shoe was eventually going to drop eventually. You can't back out. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:59:12 That's a risk you take. You can't get an accepted trade vetoed just because something happened during the interim period before it processed, in my opinion. I don't think you can back out of a trade at that point. Last year, I went to a football game with my friend and he bought me a bottle of water for $5
Starting point is 00:59:28 and he made me Venmo him $5. Can you believe that? That's awesome. He would not buy me a bottle of water. Some kind of friend you got. Pocket
Starting point is 00:59:42 aces doesn't take that crap anymore. Rich Rebar, ladies and gentlemen, Some kind of friend you got. Yeah. Yeah. Pocket aces doesn't take that crap anymore, all right? Rich Rebar, ladies and gentlemen, at Lord Rebs on Twitter, sharp football analysis. This is his website, and he's a very interesting guy. I think you can all tell,
Starting point is 00:59:58 so you'll get some great fantasy analysis. Rich, thanks for coming on our show. No, I appreciate you guys having me on. I've had a great relationship with Ben. He's someone I followed you know throughout his uh you know start of his career and I'm happy that he's elevated to you know a place at CBS and he's gotten the the due that he's deserved for the work he's done and you know um I'm glad that you and I finally got the hook up after the the podcast where I was mentioned and then we got to come on and, you know, kind of extend that olive branch. So I hope we can do it again sometime.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Thanks a lot, Rich. I'm a friendship maker. Yeah. Rich, thanks so much for coming on, man. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:00:32 And Ben, thank you. You're no small part of this either, Ben. Thank you. Good stuff. You're welcome. It was a long,
Starting point is 01:00:38 it was our longest Saturday mailbag ever, I think, but it was worth it. Make sure you listen to our radio show tonight at 10 PM Eastern for Rich and for Ben, I'm Adam. We'll talk to you on Sunday night with the recap.

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