Fantasy Football Today - 09/28: Start or Sit (NFC); Beat the Waiver Wire; MIN-LAR Recap (Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 28, 2018What a game last night! Is Dalvin Cook a buy low candidate or a legitimate concern for Fantasy owners? Is Jared Goff a sell high candidate or a legitimately awesome QB? We start by recapping the game ...before getting into the important news items (12:30) for Week 4 ... Startometer (16:00) for the RBs in the SEA-ARI and BUF-GB games, plus a bonus edition of Fantasy Regulators (19:40) and Beat the Waiver Wire (23:54) ... CIN-ATL (27:30), DET-DAL (33:26), NO-NYG (38:50), TB-CHI (46:55), PHI-TEN (53:40), BUF-GB (58:20), SEA-ARI (1:02:30) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
There are some lopsided scores in your fantasy leagues after Thursday, that's for sure.
Welcome to the show on Friday morning, September 28th.
Starters hit for the NFC home games, plus we're going to do the Titans-Eagles game that we didn't get to yesterday.
And of course, talk about the bonanza last night.
You heard me call it. Rams 38, Minnesota 31.
Hey, trivia question.
Which offense is averaging more points per game right now?
The Rams or the Chiefs?
Rams.
Rams.
Rams.
Chiefs!
Believe it or not.
But boy, how about this stat?
Currently, we have five offenses scoring more than 32 points per game.
Last year, the Rams led the NFL with 29.9 points per game.
Five offenses scoring more than 32 points per game.
I will get their reaction after I tell you about the Google Assistant.
All season long, CBS Sports is delivering the best fantasy football advice
directly through the Google Assistant.
You will be able to compare players and get insights into who to start,
who to sit, who to add, who to drop.
We're going to turn to the guys later in the show to see how this works with a little Google Assistant demo.
But I know it's only four games.
I don't know – or three games for most teams.
I don't know what it looked like last year after three games.
But are we just expecting – I'm not sure about record setting, a huge year Offensively around football
Yes
I think after three weeks
It's pretty common for certain
Patrick Mahomes being on pace to break the touchdown record
Ryan Fitzpatrick being on pace
To break the yard record
Those things probably are not that out of the ordinary
But as a league
I think we're going to see more passing
And scoring records broken
the the defensive rules are allowing all these things to happen what rules like what you can't
you can't hit guys yeah you can't hit the quarterback for sure now you think the the
lowering the helmet thing too yeah but it's the penalties are extending drives and you have to
be more careful like guys going over the middle or a deep throw down the sideline, you can't go over. And it's probably a
good thing, but it's a
bad thing for defenses trying to stop teams.
You saw it last night with all the
big crossing patterns that both teams were using.
More of the Rams than the Vikings.
I got a question. You have $1,000 on SeatGeek
right now. Would you
rather go week 9, watch Aaron Rodgers
versus Tom Brady, or week
11, watch Jared Goff versus Patrick Mahomes?
It's Goff and Mahomes.
And Goff and Mahomes are going to be in Mexico.
So you get like a little vacation out of it.
It's Rodgers, Brady.
How many times have they faced off?
You've got to see.
You could make a case they're the two best quarterbacks in NFL history.
I know not everybody would agree with that, but there's a case to be made.
You've got to see that game.
Jamie, are you going to?
It's an interesting one, though.
I think just from a nostalgia standpoint, you want to see Rodgers-Brady,
but from a fun standpoint, you want to see these two offenses go head-to-head.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it's not out of their own possibility that's the Super Bowl.
It's not going to happen, but it'd be fun.
Why is it not going to happen?
I don't think the Chiefs get there.
Their defense is going to cause too many problems.
The Rams are too balanced, though.
They are the best team in the NFL.
I can't dispute that anymore, yeah.
I think they're better than the Vikings.
That's another lunch you're going to owe me, by the way.
Who wins the division by a wider margin?
Rams or Steelers?
Yes.
Yeah, 38-31.
Hey, the Vikings hung in there.
We'll recap the game, but I just want to let everybody know the Chiefs are actually averaging 4.3 more points per game than the Rams, which is crazy.
They're averaging 39.3 points per game.
And think about this.
Last year, these two teams played in Minnesota, and the Rams scored seven points.
And this year, they scored 38 38 and they could not be stopped. Jared Goff is the
first Rams quarterback to throw
for 400 yards
in 207 games
I think. And he set
an NFL record with a perfect passer rating
but he had the most pass attempts in a
game for any quarterback with a
perfect passer rating. He had 33
pass attempts. And hey,
Aaron Donald, two sacks.
Get off the schneid.
Do you know that the last time two quarterbacks averaged a higher passer rating
or the last time that – do you know when the last time two quarterbacks averaged
a higher passer rating?
I don't know if I'm saying that correctly.
You said it many different ways.
I think we all know what you're trying to say.
I do not know.
Oh, Nick Foles, Tom Brady.
No.
I have no idea, then.
Anybody else?
I wasn't listening.
The last time two quarterbacks had a higher average passer rating
than what Cousins and Goff combined for last night.
I mean, that's a really tough question.
It's going to be bad quarterbacks, I assume.
One is.
One's not.
It was week one.
Fitzpatrick, Breeze?
And Breeze, yep. That's funny. What was week one. Fitzpatrick, Breeze? And Breeze, yep.
That's funny.
What are your major takeaways from this game?
Start all of the Rams receivers every week.
Start the Vikings receivers every week, too.
No, I mean, this is what you like to see.
I mean, there were two guys who didn't perform well that are started across the board.
And it was Kyle Rudolph, who wasn't awful, and Dalvin Cook, who was just dealing with the injury.
Luckily, he was not started across the board.
Cook was only started in 35% of leagues.
Cousins was only started in 61% of leagues, and Goff in only 47% of leagues,
except I think the leagues that I was playing against him in.
He was definitely started.
He's a must-start guy, Russ Wake.
Yeah, I mean, does Goff feel like Mahomes?
I mean, top five quarterback rest of season.
There's a difference in that I think there will be games where Goff throws the ball 28 times
and is still extremely good,
but only has two touchdown passes.
Week one.
We've seen that already.
I think we'll see that probably on a semi-regular basis
because his defense is so good.
We saw week two, too.
His fantasy total was low.
Yeah, at Arizona.
The last two weeks he's been Patrick Mahomes-esque.
But I think the thing would be is that if the floor is 20, you'll take it.
So... If the floor is 20?
I don't think the floor is 20.
I don't think the floor is 20.
But that's what we've seen, though.
There's two games of 20 and 21.
So if the floor is 20...
I don't know if 20 fantasy points from my quarterback
is good enough anymore.
But that's the floor.
That's the worst game he's going to have.
I don't care.
I think I'm going to consider. I don't care. I still don't think...
I'm going to consider other quarterbacks with higher floors.
How many guys have gotten four straight
games of at least 20 points?
Well, there's only one so far because
there's only been two quarterbacks in the play.
I would assume Mahomes and Fitzpatrick.
Yep. Breeze, yes.
He barely got that against Cleveland.
Phillip Rivers.
Brady. Brady did it at Jacksonville.
But he didn't do it last week.
Oh, you're right.
He was terrible last week.
There's a lot of quarterbacks that have had a low 20s and a mid-20s and a dud.
Right.
And there's a lot of quarterbacks that have had—
If you're saying that the floor is 20—
There's also a couple quarterbacks that have had a couple of high games and a dud. Right. And there's a lot of quarterbacks that have had – If you're saying that the floor is 20 – There's also a couple quarterbacks that have had a couple of high games and one dud.
And we just haven't seen that dud yet from Goff.
I'm not saying he's not a must.
But I'm saying –
But I want a floor that's higher than 20.
If the floor is 20, that's the dud.
The floor – like a high – a floor of 20.
First of all, I guarantee you at some point in this year that Jared Goff is going to have a game of fewer than 20 fantasy points.
Of course. Well, I guarantee you at some point in this year that Jared Goff is going to have a game of fewer than 20 fantasy points.
Of course.
So the floor is definitely below 20.
But if we expect 20 or more every week, that means he's – in my opinion, that means he's a top five quarterback.
So let me ask you, would you rather have Jared Goff or Tom Brady rest of season?
Oh, man.
So are we being too reactionary by saying Goff?
No, I don't think so. I want to see Brady next week before I bury him.
But it's not burying him.
I buried him for this week.
But if I had to make a decision this second, I would take Goff.
Yes.
I just think that there's more weapons that Goff has,
even with what Brady's about to get back.
And it's a different style of offense.
They're amazing.
It's not burying Brady.
It's not saying Brady's done.
But if you have Brady and Goff on your team right now,
you try and trade Brady, I guess.
What are you going to get?
Dude, I almost dropped Kirk Cousins this week because nobody wanted him
and I needed a replacement.
I think I put in a claim to drop him, but it didn't go through
because I have Breeze and Cousins.
You cannot
trade quarterbacks, maybe in 14
team or 16 team leagues, but
it's annoying. Our buddy, The Average Joe,
you saw what he's dealing with on Twitter.
If you saw the tweets. Oh, Darst.
Yeah. He has
what? Mahomes, Goff, and who's the third one?
Roethlisberger, I think. And Roethlisberger, and the best
offer he got in return trying to trade
any of them, I don't know which one he offered was three cone yeah and i i buy that like people just are
not paying up for quarterback all right let's wrap it up adam i do know people who are in other
leagues with other average joes and they're getting a lot for their quarterback i saw somebody got
david johnson for philip rivers in one of their Do you think I could trade Kirk Cousins to someone in one of those leagues?
One of your leagues?
No.
No, no, no.
From my league to another league.
In one of our listeners' leagues?
No, from my league to one of the other leagues that I'm not in and get someone good back.
Oh, a cross-league trade?
You think I could pull that?
Dalvin Cook, how do you feel about him?
I'm sorry to anyone.
I'm sorry to the people that I told to start Dalvin Cook.
There weren't that many, but I did definitely avoid Cooper Cup this week,
and that was a huge mistake, so my bad for crap advice.
Cup was started in 69% of leagues.
Woods in 77% of leagues.
Dalvin Cook, is he still a buy-low candidate?
Are you still optimistic about him going forward?
His next two games are not that easy at Philadelphia,
and Arizona is interesting.
They actually allow the most fantasy points to running backs,
but not so bad.
Not a lot of yards per carry.
Yes, he's a buy-look.
There was only one thing that bothered me about this game,
and that's the way they used him on the snaps that they gave him.
He didn't get a target,
and they weren't using him on third downs very often.
He's going to, as bad as that offensive line is, he's got to be involved in the passing game.
Why did they play him for 18 snaps?
Why did they use him?
He didn't even play the fourth quarter.
He barely played the third quarter.
It kind of mystifies me that they wouldn't put him on the field more
and try and use him more.
And like Heath said, use him more as a pass catcher out of the backfield.
It just felt really, really stupid.
But it also might tell you just kind of what the coaching staff is thinking
the center of this team is now.
And that is Kirk Cousins throwing the ball to Thielen and Diggs.
And maybe Cook is more of a complimentary piece than a workhorse.
I think he gets 10 days off.
He'll be fine for next week.
I hope so.
Absolutely by low.
All right.
Cook or Mixon going forward?
Mixon.
I'll take Cook for sure.
It's just so hard with Mixon's injury.
He's running around.
He's going to take this week off.
Hopefully they ease him back in, and in the long run mixin will be fine
i know it's weird it's weird to go with a running back who had mid-season surgery the thing the
thing that'll be interesting with mixin because they shocked me with their usage in the first two
weeks and if that's what they go back to right away then it probably is mixin you just wonder
with him having this procedure in season and coming back from it in two or three weeks,
does it go back to being more of a timeshare when he comes back?
I think when he does come back, you would assume that it would be that way.
This is Marvin Lewis we're talking about.
He's always been very cautious.
I don't think it's going to be.
No, no, no, no, no.
60-40, though, would be a 20% drop from where he was the first two weeks.
Yeah, I think maybe the first week or two,
but they're going to try and get back to that.
I mean, Mixon's their bell cow.
I think it comes down to how well Gio plays this week
and when he's splitting with Mixon.
But I don't think that matters with Gio
because they know what he's been capable of doing.
He's had these opportunities in the past,
and they go away from him every time the next guy comes back up.
So I had them back-to-back going into the season, Cook and Mixon,
so I'll still stick with Cook.
But if Mixon's right, I'd rather have Mixon.
All right.
I think we've talked about Joe Mixon enough.
Let's go to the news and notes.
And Joe Mixon is in this segment.
Jay Ajayi has a – it's really no big deal, guys.
He just has a fractured back.
He'll play through it.
NBD.
Are you confident in Jay Ajayi this season?
Or is this just big red flag?
I own a lot of Jay Ajayi,
and I am not happy that he's going to be playing
through a fractured back.
Go get Corey Clement now.
Go get Wendell Smallwood now,
because you're not going to be able to get Clement.
Well, that's the point.
You go and you trade for Corey Clement.
And if you can't get him,
then go and pick up Smallwood off.
Maybe you could trade one of your quarterbacks
for Corey Clement.
Oh, yeah.
Actually, that's not a terrible idea.
Clement, Wendell Smallwood's only 9% owned.
But Ajayi's going to start this week. Are you guys going to start him? Well, we will preview this
game, but real quick. I am not going to start him. I might start him as a flex. Aaron Rodgers' knee
is apparently getting better. That's nice. Jimmy Graham, Randall Cobb, Kevin King were all limited
in practice. I don't know that they need Kevin King in this
game, but he does make their defense
a lot better. They need Kevin King.
Doug Baldwin says he's ready to
go, but he has not been cleared yet.
How do you feel about starting Doug Baldwin?
Immediately, I'd be a little hesitant.
Yeah, deeper league. It's not a
bad dart throw if he's out
there. Some defensive injuries.
Mentioned these yesterday, but some updates.
Colts had a good practice day.
Clayton Gathers practiced in full, and Malik Hooker, I think, was limited in practice.
Those are their two starting safeties.
So maybe they're getting a little healthier.
And offensive tackle Anthony Costanzo returned to practice.
He was limited.
We don't know if he'll play, but that would help against Houston.
They're doubting his availability,
which means they're going with a backup left tackle
and a third-string right tackle against the Texans.
Wonderful.
With the Bears, very beat up in the secondary.
Two cornerbacks, Mukamara and Cooper, mispractice.
And the Bucs will be starting three rookies in their secondary.
Alfred Morris, guys, has a knee issue.
Matt Breida practiced in full.
We previewed this game yesterday.
Updated thoughts on the Niners running backs?
I don't want to start Alfred Hall.
Yeah.
I almost hope he doesn't play.
Give all that work to Breida.
Alshon Jeffrey missed practice with an illness.
And again, we will preview this game in a bit.
Devontae Freeman practiced.
Any chance Devontae Freeman plays this week?
I don't think he really practiced.
Okay.
I think he just stretched.
Jake Butt tore his ACL.
That sucks.
Sorry to hear it.
It's his third ACL tear now.
I feel bad for Heath.
Now he's not going to be able to make any Jake Butt jokes.
Butt hurt.
No, he's not dead.
Butt hurt. He is he's not dead.
Butt hurt.
He isn't fancy this year.
Keenan Allen mispracticed again.
Are we concerned about Keenan Allen playing?
Not yet.
And I'm not sure if you saw this, but this was kind of funny.
Cleveland offensive coordinator Todd Haley confirmed that the Browns did steal the Philly special play from the Eagles.
And that was after Hugh Jackson denied stealing it.
He was like, no, we didn't steal it.
We have that in our bag of tricks.
And then Todd Haley said, I have no shame.
We stole it.
So come on, you can't even get that straight?
Give me a break. Do you expect the following players?
Leonard Fournette against the Jets.
Yes.
Yep.
Darren Sproles at Tennessee.
No.
John Brown at Pittsburgh on Sunday night.
Yes.
Marlon Mack against Houston.
I think so.
I think we're getting to that point.
Let's see what the injury report says on Friday.
Juju Smith-Schuster against Baltimore.
Yes.
And Josh Gordon against Miami.
Mm-hmm.
You know, some people aren't able to tune in
To the entire show
So for you listeners that
Can't get past like 50 minutes
I'm going to do the Stardometer
For our last two games
That we'll be previewing later on in the show
Just in case you don't hear about these very important people
So it's Stardometer
Zero through ten
Zero, no way am I starting this guy. 10, must start.
Not even thinking about it.
0-10 start-o-meter on David Johnson.
7.
7.
Yep. 7.
For David Johnson against Seattle. Same game.
Chris Carson.
7.5. 9.
7.
So, do we all like Carson better than David Johnson?
You know, I think I have Johnson ranked higher.
I just feel a little bit better about it.
Maybe I shouldn't have it that way.
Maybe I'm learning right now to put Carson ahead of David Johnson.
I like them about the same.
They're very close for me.
They're both number two running backs.
I'll buy into Johnson's upside more so than Carson.
I do find Carson to be very interesting.
The Cardinals have seen the most – the Cardinals' defense has seen the most carries in the NFL by a wide margin.
So it's not that their run defense is so bad, but people are just running all over them probably because they're ahead.
And Carson got more than 30 carries last weekend.
How about this for Carson?
He is averaging 3.9 yards per carry.
Not so good.
But he has faced three teams that are among the seven best in yards per carry
allowed to running back.
So he's had a very tough schedule, and he's done okay with it.
Aren't the Cardinals amongst the seven best in yards per carry?
No.
They're like 15th or something.
Wow.
Yeah.
And they give up like 3.95 yards per carry to running backs.
If they do that all year, they'll be better than 15th, but it's small sample size.
All right, so Johnson and Carson are about even.
They're both good starts.
How about Jamal Williams against Buffalo?
Zero.
Four.
Four, and I feel like he could score this week
I'm not really reflecting in my rankings
I don't feel good about starting him
But something tells me
That he could end up
Finding the end
I agree
I don't buy into what Buffalo did last week
As the sign of what their defense is
Aaron Jones
I think it means that they're aggressive
I just don't know if it means
That they're going to be able to shut down Aaron Rodgers
Aaron Jones guys Four Two out of ten I think it means that they're aggressive. I just don't know if it means that they're going to be able to shut down Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Jones, guys.
Four.
Two out of ten.
Two.
Three.
So who do you like better, Jones or Williams?
It's Williams.
Jones.
Jones.
Okay.
Are you starting either of them or trying to avoid?
I'm forced to in a couple leagues just because of injuries and bye weeks,
but they're best suited as flex options.
Jay Ajayi or a Packers running back?
Ajayi.
Ajayi.
Okay. And finally, LeSean McCoy at Green Bay, 0-10.
Six.
Four.
Four.
So he's the best running back to start in that game? I think so. I think so. Four. Four. So he's the best running back to start in that game?
I think so.
I think so.
Eh.
That's, yeah.
I don't know about that game.
Should be a blowout.
But you know, you look at what the Bills have done,
there's some evidence that their defense isn't that bad.
No, not at all.
And Sean McDermott took over the play calling last week,
and you saw what
happened if you throw out the peterman game and just look at their other two games they don't
look like they're quite as awful yeah all right um well we got to do some beat the waiver wire
we got to preview the games but you know we also have to do one thing real quick here
we gotta regulate because i want to know how political you guys are i don't mean in a
national politics sense but you know how a politician will say anything to get his votes
i want to know if you are willing to tell a listener how dumb he is
check this out this This is from Jordan.
I recently made a trade in a 10-team half PPR league.
I traded Adrian Peterson and Dion Lewis for Ezekiel Elliott because the other owner really wanted Peterson.
I thought it was a pretty good trade on my end,
getting Zeke for Peterson and Dion Lewis,
given that AP was a sell-high candidate and I wanted Elliott.
However, every one of my leagues started crapping on the trade,
and the person that received Peterson and Lewis from me claimed stupidity slash ignorance,
not realizing they accepted the trade. However, again, this individual had to select a player to
drop because they were expecting two players or accepting two players in return for one.
I have also made trades with this player in the past. Therefore, he knew what he was doing,
and when everyone started trashing the trade,
it ruined how the person felt about receiving the two players.
We have a veto in place, which I think is dumb,
but the trade still went through.
In the end, the league deemed it only fair
that I have to trade back Zeke to the other individual
for being lopsided.
I refuse to do it.
The commissioner said they would remove Zeke from
my team and I would get no players back in return if I did not return the player for Dion Lewis and
Adrian Peterson. So basically the commissioner is forcing him to reverse this trade. In the end,
I submitted a trade offer back for my players and I'm waiting for the acceptance. Is this at all
fair? Because now I have to drop a player that i like as uh as well since my team is full this league is going down the crapper now in my opinion so we can agree this guy got
screwed right big time yeah now here's the tricky part oh oh there's more the commissioner listens
to your podcast can you please tell him if this gets read in the regulator segment that
chad you are a big stupid idiot moron commissioner and you
were wrong are you willing to say that to a listener um chad you are a big stupid idiot
moron commissioner and you were wrong yeah chad come on like i like you chad i think you're a
great guy and very smart but this is a really terrible decision yeah i don't mind telling
people that i like that they're bad commissioners i tell adam well no i don't like him um
well at least he looked back to see my reaction yeah of course
um yeah chad you're an idiot moron you win um yeah so am i willing to call him an idiot moron?
Yes.
Do I think it was dumb that you reversed the trade and forced poor Jordan to give back Zeke?
Yes.
Do I think Jordan should bail on the league?
No.
Effective 2019 and never, ever be friends with anybody in the league ever again
and move to a different town and start a new life?
Yeah, I think that's very reasonable. Change his name?
Change his name. Change his identity.
Change his identity. If he has
a pet, he's got to dye
his pet's hair so that no one knows
it's his pet.
I hate this. I hate that
it happens. It's the stupidest thing in the world.
Everybody that plays fantasy, you're
playing with friends, you're playing with coworkers. If you're playing with strangers, that's kind of weird unless it's on stupidest thing in the world everybody that plays fantasy you're playing with friends you're playing with co-workers if you're playing with strangers that's kind of weird unless
it's on a website and then the website will handle these things for you because they're the commissioner
be everybody can think for themselves everybody knows what they're getting into with fantasy
football yeah the other and if someone thinks a trade is fair if two people think a trade between
them is fair then no one should stop them.
No one should help somebody because they've got the rotten end of a deal.
Just deal with it.
Also, everybody is we're all adults here unless you're in high school.
And then we're all high schoolers here.
And so bottom line is that everybody should be responsible for their own decisions.
We don't need mommy and daddy commissioner making sure that our trades are fair and even and just.
Terrible decision, but we love you and thank you for listening. And that has been
the Fantasy Regulators. We'll do Starter Sit
in just a minute. Let's beat the waiver
wire, guys. I looked ahead at next week,
week five,
and some quarterbacks you might want to
pick up. Alex Smith may have been dropped.
He's 80% owned. He is
at New Orleans next week.
That's a good one. Marcus Mariota is at Buffalo. Blake Bortles is at Kansas City.
Ryan Tannehill is at Cincinnati. Derek Carr is at the Chargers. Alex Smith, Mariota, Bortles,
Tannehill, Derek Carr. Do you see anything there that you think is worth a stash right now to beat
the waiver wire? I think Bortles or Tannehill are potential stashes,
and you get them now just to see what they look like this week.
I would probably put Tannehill ahead of Bortles.
Can I just say, Derek Carr,
it's been this year of offensive production.
Renaissance.
Derek Carr is averaging 312 passing yards per game,
and I don't really believe in Gruden, but Carr is just very unlucky with touchdowns.
He's about 55% owned.
I think he has two touchdowns this year, despite 936 yards passing, I believe.
Want to know what his fantasy floor has been this year?
The lowest point total he's given you?
Yeah.
Six.
Want to know the highest?
14.
17.
I know, but is there any chance we're seeing a real buy low candidate that's actually having a very good year and has just been very unlucky in Derek Carr?
It's possible.
But they're running a quick throw offense that is beating defenses
until they get in the red zone.
And then there's turnovers,
or there's turnovers before then,
like last week when he threw that bomb
that was picked off.
I'm nervous about calling Derek Carr
a guy that you want to stash
in hopes of eventually starting.
I think he could be okay next week.
I mean, the other thing about Carr
is that he's faced the Rams, Broncos, and Dolphins,
two of them on the road.
He'll be at the Chargers
next week.
All right,
anyway,
anyone else that you want
to beat the waiver wire with?
I mean,
if you want to stash him
for two weeks,
Jameis.
Yep.
Because he's probably
going to be a starter
in week five.
And how can we not
say Baker Mayfield?
Okay.
Austin Hooper
is at Pittsburgh.
Okay, I'll just give you a tight end matchup real quick. Austin Hooper, at Pittsburgh Okay I'll just give the tight end Matchups real quick Austin Hooper Austin
Safarian Jenkins Ricky Seals Jones and
Ian Thomas have good tight end matchups
Next week Hooper Safarian Jenkins Seals
Jones and Ian Thomas I'm sorry that list
Sucks so much but maybe Hooper's okay
Who you got here for us
Taylor Gabriel
Anthony Miller's injured and out for a
While now Gabriel has 22 Targets in the first three weeks with Taylor Gabriel. Anthony Miller's injured and out for a while now.
Gabriel has 22 targets in the first three weeks with Miller as a part of the offense.
We have seen the Bears opponent, Tampa Bay, struggle with slot-wide receivers.
I think Gabriel could be a bigger part of this offense.
I think he's a terrific GPP cheapo to take your chance on in one of these million-dollar tournaments.
And a wide receiver who's going to have a good matchup next week is Christian Kirk.
We have to see if he does anything, but he had a good game last week, and maybe Josh Rosen likes him.
He'll be at San Francisco next week, Christian Kirk.
The DSTs to stash, Carolina against the Giants. Tennessee is at Buffalo. Arizona at San Francisco next week, Christian Kirk. The DSTs to stash. Carolina against the Giants.
Tennessee is at Buffalo.
Arizona at San Francisco.
San Francisco against Arizona.
And Houston still available in about 25% of leagues.
They face Dallas.
I believe that is a Sunday night game.
So Carolina, Tennessee, Arizona, San Francisco, and Houston.
I don't know.
Maybe Arizona would be my favorite there.
Probably Houston. I don't know. There Arizona would be my favorite there. Probably Houston.
I don't know. There's some options for you. Let's get to the games. Cincinnati is at Atlanta.
Stat of the game number one. Let's use two stats of the game to compare Calvin Ridley
versus Tyler Boyd because we know we're starting Julio. We know we're starting A.J. Green.
Stat of the game number one. There have been five wide receivers with six to ten targets
against the Falcons in their last two games. Six to ten targets. All five of them had either 77 or
more yards or a touchdown. So that's a good thing for Tyler Boyd. If he gets six to ten targets,
he should have a good game based on the last two weeks. Stat of the game number two, let's look at
Calvin Ridley's matchup. The Bengals have
given up points to number one receivers, but no number two wide receiver has had more than five
fantasy points in non-PPR against the Bengals. They have faced not the best receivers, Indianapolis,
Baltimore, and Carolina. Who do you like better, Tyler Board or Calvin Ridley? I like Ridley's upside. I think it's very close
in PPR, but I like
Ridley's upside, so I'll take him.
I'll take Boyd just because
I'm going to be watching Ridley very closely
this week, but last week could either
be the start of a new trend or an
aberration in terms of the way the targets were distributed.
And Boyd has more consistently
gotten targets this year.
This is a cool game because I can ask you player comparisons,
and they're probably somewhat difficult,
except I know we're all going to start Matt Ryan over Randy Dalton.
But Gio Bernard or Tevin Coleman?
Gio.
Yep, Gio.
Did Boyd or Ridley?
A.J. Green or Julio Jones, just for fun?
Julio.
Julio.
A.J. Green.
How about Austin Hooper or Tyler Eifert?
Eifert.
Hooper.
Eifert.
All right, let's talk about the tight ends,
then we'll go back to the running backs.
Are these top 12 guys, Eifert and Hooper?
I think they are.
No, not Hooper.
You know, I was really encouraged, E, for the first week of the season,
he got three targets last week, four, eight, and week three.
And he is starting to look like maybe he's working his way back
into it being a big part of the offense.
I love his matchup, and I love that he got a lot of work last week.
But I think Hooper can dominate the coverage that he's got,
and I think he's got a better chance to score.
Eifert's 68% owned.
So would you start Hooper or Eifert over, say, George Kittle?
Yes, yes, yes.
Eifert, yes, is close with Hooper.
Okay, but like O.J. Howard, you'd take over them?
Yep, I would.
And Ebron?
I'd start Eifert over Howard.
Okay, okay, but Ebron ahead of all of them.J. Howard, you'd take over them? Yep, I would. And Ebron? I'd start Eifert over Howard. Okay, okay.
But Ebron ahead of all of them?
Yep.
And now the running backs.
Do we love Geo and Tevin Coleman this week?
Are they going to get their standard double-digit fantasy points at non-PPR every time the starter's out?
Yep.
Start them both over David Johnson.
Both top 12 fantasy running backs.
Start them over Marshawn Lynch, Lamar Miller, Alex Collins.
All righty.
All right, let me just throw this out there for Matt Ryan.
I know you guys are very high on him, and you should be.
He's having an awesome year.
But he has one big game without the rushing touchdowns,
and it was against New Orleans, who gives up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks.
Like only one game with more than 20 fantasy points
strictly as a passer.
And so far, the Bengals have been very good
against quarterbacks.
22 points on 53 pass attempts for Luck,
21 fantasy points on 55 attempts for Flacco,
and then Cam Newton scored 33 fantasy points,
but he only had 150 yards passing.
He had two rushing touchdowns.
So are we sure Matt Ryan's going to have a big game?
Yes.
Explain.
Michael Johnson still hurt, right?
IDK.
So that's part of their pass rush.
Michael's pass rush.
Now, I think their interior pass rush can be there,
but Ryan's been able to work around that,
and it's going to be impossible.
It's going to be so hard to stop this passing game
now that Ridley's doing great things on the other side.
The Bengals are going to take notice of it.
I think what's going to end up happening is the Bengals just try and do that
bend-but-don't-break thing that they do,
where they're just going to let the Falcons roll close to the red zone
or into the red zone and then tighten up their defense
and try and shut them out of the end zone.
It's not going to work.
I think Matt Ryan's going to have another very good day.
He's got a ton of upside,
and I think this is going to be a very high-scoring game.
I like the fact that it's the second week in a row that the Falcons are at home.
Might be the third week in a row, actually, that they're at home.
It's the third week in a row they're at home. Bengals on the road, second week in a row that the Falcons are at home. Might be the third week in a row, actually, that they're at home. It's the third week in a row
they're at home. Bengals on the road,
second week in a row.
I just think things are lining up for a high-scoring game
and you want to start Matt Ryan in those
types of games.
Cool. And you guys have Andy Dalton,
so he's interesting.
Eighth for Jamie, ninth for Dave,
sixth for Heath.
Is it just the matchup?
Because he hasn't really put up big fantasy
numbers, except, well, he did against Baltimore.
He did against Baltimore, and he had a lot of help
because the Ravens couldn't tackle in that game.
AJ Green had the three touchdowns.
Again, this is
going to be a track meet. Falcons'
defense is going to be without their starting two safeties.
Their replacements are bad.
Linebacker Deion Jones isn't going to play.
Tack McKinley looks like he's going to play,
so that pass rush will be a little bit better.
But I think Dalton's going to put the ball up a lot.
And just like Matt Ryan with Calvin Ridley breaking out,
Andy Dalton's got Tyler Boyd breaking out.
And Tyler Eifert got a lot of usage last week too.
He just didn't catch a touchdown.
That went to Uzama.
I don't think you can underestimate.
This should be a pass-heavy game for him.
42 and 46 pass attempts the last two games,
and Atlanta has been awful for the last four years
against pass-catching running backs.
Of course, we know Geo's really good at that.
So I would expect maybe a few fewer rush attempts for Geo,
and they use that passing game to the running back
to kind of work as a running game.
All right, let's go to kind of work as a running game.
All right, let's go to our next game.
Detroit at Dallas, stat of the game.
All right, Jamie, so I know you're pretty high on Kerryon Johnson,
and you love playing against the Cowboys without Sean Lee.
The Cowboys allow 3.2 yards per carry to opposing running backs,
including 3.2 yards per carry to Chris Carson last week when Lee got hurt. He played
a little less than half the game.
They feel better about their run defense
this year with Leighton Van Der Esch
without Sean Lee.
Do you still think...
So my stat of the game is that they've been very good against
running backs. Do you still think
Kerryon Johnson's in for a big game?
Yes. I think pace of play
is important here i don't
think that either team is going to get away from each other uh most likely dallas not getting away
from the lions in terms of the score so i think that the lions can actually run the ball this
week and i think we saw last week that their best running back is is clearly carry on johnson
it would be stupid to go away from him he led them them in snaps with 33. Blunt had 28.
Theoretic had 21.
Inside the 10, Blunt actually had one more snap than Carrion had.
And carries, LeGarrette had one more carry inside the 10 than Carrion had.
They both had the same amount of carries in the game.
And when it was the fourth quarter, and maybe this is something that will help you believe
in Carrion a little bit.
Fourth quarter snaps, Carrion had seven, four carries,
and LeGarrette Blount only had four snaps, but he also had four carries.
So he's playing a little bit more in that clock-killing role.
That's something that could happen in this game.
Even if it's a close game, Detroit could get conservative to try and just hang on for the win.
I'm still concerned that Carrion hasn't rustled away a heavy workload. And until I
see it, he's in that
low-end number two running back high-end flex range.
It's also the slow build to trusting the guy.
And so that's what you're starting to see.
Week one, it was a little bit. Week two, a little bit more.
And then week three, it was, okay,
now we can give him the opportunity and he takes advantage
of it. So week four, I think that carries over to this week too.
I hope Jamie's right.
I want Carrion Johnson to be good.
I don't have it
ranked like that because I don't see a difference
between week two and week three. It was twice
as many carries for Kerryon, but it was the same
exact number in relation to
LeGarrette Blount. It was a 50-50 split
in terms of rush attempts week two
and week three.
I hope, I think at some
point it has to happen.
I don't have any reason to believe it's going to be this week.
My biggest problem with this game is I don't think Detroit has a good run defense.
Zeke is one of the best running backs in the NFL.
I expect Dallas is going to.
Now, they've said some things this week that maybe make this not true,
but I expect they are going to play slow, run the ball. There aren't as many offensive plays.
There's no chance Detroit runs the ball 32 times.
All right.
So the thing is about Kerryon Johnson is that he might be a player with some of the biggest
rankings differences this week.
He's outside the top 24 for Dave and Heath, and he's 12th for Jamie.
And I think that's an accurate representation of the span of his possible
outcomes. I don't think
that it's unreasonable to think Kerryon Johnson
could be a top 15 running back, and I don't think it's unreasonable
to think he could be outside the top 30.
$5,700 on FanDuel seems like a
pretty good play. It's amazing.
Yeah, that's really cheap.
Holy cow! I'm looking at
running backs in that range.
Rashad Penny Martin the Mac
Dion Lewis
So yeah I think Kerryon Johnson
Could be a popular fan to play
A lot of upside there
Alright any
Dallas is the easiest thing
Dallas is just Zeke right
And he could have a huge game
Tell me about the passing game for Detroit.
Do you expect a big game here?
No.
No.
I think it'll be okay.
You still start going all day.
And I think Tate and PPR for sure.
Tate and non-PPR maybe.
Marvin Jones is the one that you might be a little bit more worried about this week compared to last week because the coverage in Dallas is better.
Right.
Three quarterbacks so far. His perception total is terrible.
He's been very touchdown dependent.
Yeah, he's not a great PPR guy for sure, Marvin Jones.
Three quarterbacks so far against Dallas.
Cam Newton, 17 fantasy points with 58 yards and a touchdown rushing.
Eli Manning, 15 fantasy points.
Russell Wilson, 19 fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown games.
That's pretty bad, really bad.
So Stafford, obviously going to start Dalton over Stafford.
You going to start Fitzpatrick over Stafford?
I would start almost everyone over Stafford.
Agreed.
All right.
Like Eli Manning, Heath?
100%.
Easy.
I've got Stafford ahead of Eli.
Baker Mayfield or Stafford?
Stafford.
Stafford.
All right.
And Galladay is the best in non-PPR and Tate in PPR?
I'd take Galladay in both. Yeah. I've got Galladay one spot best in non-PPR and Tate in PPR? I'd take Galladay in both.
Yeah.
I've got Galladay one spot ahead of Golden in PPR.
Galladay is the only guy I have ranked as a starter in either format.
Galladay or Karrion Johnson flex?
Galladay.
I'll take Karrion in non-PPR.
I'm going to say Galladay.
And also, we mentioned Karrion's price on FanDuel.
Galladay is only $100 more.
Galladay or
LaShawn McCoy?
Galladay.
And these DSTs are not bad. Detroit's DST
is top 12 for everybody.
Bad on the road at San Francisco, but
they did have six sacks in that game.
Dallas, a little vulnerable to sacks
so far. And the Dallas DST
and Detroit's DST is barely owned.
Dallas DST, 14th for Jamie, 10th for Heath, 23rd for Dave,
so he's not feeling them.
Let's go to New Orleans at the Giants.
Stat of the game.
Heath once said only two weeks ago, I believe,
that the Giants are the worst team in New York.
No, incorrect.
That is factually incorrect.
I made a joke about you being happy that the Jets lost
so the Giants are no longer the worst team in New York.
By them being no longer the worst team in New York, I would be saying they are not the worst team in New York.
But what really stood out about that, Heath, is that you forgot that Buffalo is actually in New York.
And you owe our listeners from Buffalo and Bills fans everywhere an apology.
Do you really think that the Giants could do what the Bills did to the Vikings last
week?
I think it's still up in the air.
Adam, by definition, the Giants and the Jets do not play in New York.
But they are a New York team.
They have New York in their name.
Yeah, so that's what I was referring to, the two teams that have New York in their name.
Oh, okay, gotcha.
Saturday, number two, the Saints allow the most fantasy points to opposing wide receivers.
This is amazing. They allow, on average, 13 more fantasy points than the second worst team against wide
receivers, and that would be the Chargers. So this is a game where the Saints are easy.
Breeze, start. Kamara, start. Michael Thomas, start. Let's talk about, let's say, Ted Ginn and Sterling Shepard.
And I know Shepard's ahead of Ginn,
but how much do you like these secondary receivers?
Because we're starting Beckham and we're starting Barclay.
I think it's probably, well, there's some interesting ones here,
including the tight ends.
But let's start with those secondary receivers
and Sterling Shepard and his ability to take advantage
of the best matchup in fantasy right now. Love, love, love Sterling Shepard and his ability to take advantage of the best
matchup in fantasy right now.
Love, love, love Sterling Shepard.
You have to.
It's nine touchdowns to wide receivers allowed by New Orleans this year.
How many of them went to non-number one wide receivers?
Five.
Seven.
Well, you know that there were three last week, unless you consider Calvin Ridley the
new number one receiver in Atlanta
And Sanu caught one right
Right
Is this a question that you have an answer to
I'm looking it up right now
Deshaun Jackson caught two
I think Chris Godwin had one
Ridley had three
Sanu had one
Antonio Callaway had one in week two
The answer is eight
Oh
Eight of nine
To non number one wide receivers,
which makes sense because Marshawn Lattimore is their best corner.
Their other corners are terrible and or on injured reserve.
And Sterling Shepard should have, should have an amazing game.
There is no getting around sitting him.
He is at least a number two fantasy wide receiver.
He is, I think he's one of two free spaces in daily this week
and i'm so afraid that yeah they're gonna let everyone down what are you afraid of are you
that the giants are gonna let everyone down they're the giants they're not that good
yeah but this matchup is too good to ignore it's just so do you like it you like him better than
galladay i do i do see i I think I still like Galladay.
They're right in the same range for me.
The reason I asked was the FanDuel thing because Galladay is $400 less, I think, than Shepard is.
He is.
I'd rather play Galladay than Shepard.
How about just playing both?
You could do that.
Yeah.
Beckham, do you think Beckham finally scored?
That's the other thing I'm concerned about.
Beckham's gone three games without a touchdown.
And you know how you said last week, Dave, that Robert Woods was due and he scored two touchdowns?
I feel like Beckham gets in the end zone in this game.
That's fine.
You're starting Odell anyway.
And there's a very interesting giant stack that you could do in Daly with Eli, Odell, and Shepard.
And I think it will pay off.
Oh, by the way, Evan Ingram's not playing.
Did we mention that?
We did.
Well, no.
All right. So any interest in Ted Ginn?
No.
Okay.
No, Eli Apple probably not playing.
He's a number four receiver.
And Cameron Meredith would be like a number five receiver then?
Six.
Okay.
How about Saquon Barkley?
Are you avoiding him in DFS Because the Saints run defense
Has been very good this year
He'll be good in the passing game
He's probably really expensive though
I mean
Is he worth the price
I think he's $8,100
He's not an ideal DFS guy
I'm going to use him quite a bit in tournaments
Because I think people will stay away from him
Okay
Red Ellison or Ben Watson
I like Ben Watson a lot
Watson
Watson Yeah Watson or I like Ben Watson a lot. Watson.
Watson.
Yeah, Watson or Austin Hooper?
Watson.
Hooper.
Okay.
And then finally, Red Ellison just won as he's 10% owned.
He's not the worst start because in three games without Evan Ingram, including when Ingram got hurt in Week 15 last year, week 16 last year, he has had four for 60, five for 63, and I think three for 39 and a touchdown.
We got Philadelphia and Tennessee.
We got Tampa Bay and Chicago.
Let's go to Tampa Bay and Chicago right now and talk about Ryan Fitzpatrick.
And I want to talk about the Google
Assistant, okay? I hope you all have been using the Google Assistant. It is a really, really helpful
app. I know I'm going to use it this week, probably to help myself out a little bit with the Packers
running backs, right? Because I don't know who I got. Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones on the same
team. I can't decide who I want. I might just turn it over to the Google Assistant. What I'll do is
I'll get my phone out. I'll get the app out, and I will say, hey, Google, talk to CBS Sports.
I will ask Jamal Williams or Aaron Jones.
I will get my answer.
Make sure you download the Google Assistant on the App Store or the Play Store.
Today's debate is not about Packers running backs.
It's about Andrew Luck versus Ryan Fitzpatrick.
I'm going to give you guys each 20 seconds.
Tell me who you like, Andrew Luck or Ryan Fitzpatrick this week. I like Fitzpatrick. I'm going to give you guys each 20 seconds. Tell me who you like, Andrew Luck or Ryan Fitzpatrick this week.
I like Fitzpatrick better.
I love the point totals he's been getting.
And the Bears' defense, pass rush is outstanding, one of the best in the league.
They've given up 10 pass plays of 20-plus yards through three weeks,
including four last week to Arizona.
Half of them have resulted in touchdowns.
Fitzpatrick just needs a little bit of time to chuck it downfield.
He's done it a ton so far this season.
I think he's got the much higher ceiling than
Andrew Luck.
Jamie? I'm just afraid
that this is the fall on your face game for Fitzpatrick
and Luck seems to have the
I have something to prove
attitude with what he's been saying.
I don't think this Texans defense is
very good. I think you'll see Luck at home come out even with Marlon Mack been saying. I don't think this Texans defense is very good, and I think you'll see
Luck at home come out
even with Marlon Mack coming back, no run game
and a defense that's
going to give up points in this game.
I also worry about that if Fitzpatrick has the first
half that he had last week, if he gets yanked
because Jameis is now on the active roster.
And Heath, break the tie.
I will go with
Andrew Luck. I haven't projected for the most past attempts this week.
I do think they go down the field a little bit more.
Andrew Luck seems perturbed by all the talk about his shoulder.
I think he's going to prove to us that it's okay.
All right, let's see what the Google Assistant has to say.
So, again, I've got the Google Assistant app on my phone, and I will say, here it is.
Hey, Google, talk to CBS Sports.
Hi, this is CBS Sports and we are using our fantasy football computer projections
and expert rankings to answer your start, sit, or add, drop questions.
Ask a question like, should I add Austin Eckler
or should I drop Phillip Rivers?
You can also ask us to choose between two players.
Should I start Ryan Fitzpatrick or Andrew Luck?
Andrew Luck
is projected for more fantasy points
than Ryan Fitzpatrick. What else
would you like to know?
Dave, you're on Fitzpatrick Island.
Interesting.
It's fine. It's a hairy place.
Number one quarterback in fantasy
going into week four.
We're a little hesitant on him.
So let's go to Tampa Bay at Chicago.
That was the Google Assistant.
It's really, really fun.
It's really cool.
I mean, it could be a fun way to settle a bet at a bar or something like that,
but definitely you want some fantasy advice, check out the Google Assistant
and use it and take advantage of a really cool feature.
And, of course, you download the app on either the App Store or the Play Store,
and you say, hey, Google, talk to CBS Sports. And if you want to have your question read on the air,
you can email fantasyfootballatcbsi.com, fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. And we're answering
questions thanks to the Google Assistant on CBS Sports HQ. You can send your questions to
at CBS Fantasy on Twitter, at CBS Fantasy.
Speaking of fantasy football at cbsi.com, don't forget to check out the mailbag,
the Saturday mailbag, which Heath and I will be doing later today on Friday. And watch CBS Sports
HQ, everybody. It's the best. Tampa Bay's at Chicago. It's the start of the game. Every wide
receiver with seven or more targets against the Bears has scored nine or more fantasy points in non-PPR.
So seven or more targets, good game.
Six targets or less, not necessarily a good game.
Brandon Marshall had four catches for 44 yards on six targets.
The Bucs wide receivers, Mike Evans, heck yes.
What about Chris Godwin and Deshaun Jackson?
You can flex Godwin.
I don't want any part of Deshaun Jackson.
Does he have six targets in a game yet?
I don't think so.
I agree with what he said.
It's all boom or bust with him.
You know the deal.
You know the pitfalls that come with starting him.
That being said, I'll whip out the stat again
that the Bears have allowed a ton of 20-plus yard pass plays this year.
A lot of them deep balls.
Four last week against the Cardinals.
Wow, that is interesting.
We've talked about how Prince of Mucamara has banged up, Marcus Cooper.
He's a reserve corner, and he's not very good to begin with,
so maybe that's a good thing for the Bears.
I think there is a chance for Deshaun Jackson, but he's a flex. He's in the same kind of high-risk, high-reward tier as Josh Gordon would be if Josh Gordon plays.
Probably a little notch behind Tyler Lockett.
I mean, that deep ball thing is pretty interesting, and it makes Ryan Fitzpatrick very interesting.
He's 14th for Jamie, he's 8th for Dave, and he's 17th for Heath.
I'm not sure we have to get much more into Fitzpatrick, but Dave is the believer this week in the magic.
Peyton Barber, on the other hand, 79% owned,
facing a team that allows the fewest fantasy points to running backs.
You've got to get away from Barber, right?
Yeah.
I wish Tampa Bay would give Ronald Jones a chance.
They're talking about Ronald Jones eventually getting an opportunity.
He may be the beat-the-waver-wire guy.
He's up there for sure.
Ronald Jones?
Okay.
I think you can wait.
The problem with him is you're definitely not going to start him this week
and then run by next week.
So if you're beating the waiver wire with him,
you're making at least a three-week commitment to him.
Ronald Jones, I'm sorry, Peyton Barber,
or how many Eagles running backs would you start over Peyton Barber?
All of them?
No.
Not if Jay Ajayi plays.
Well, you're going to go Ajayi for sure over him if he plays.
I'd go Ajayi and Clement if Sproles is out.
Only Ajayi if Sproles plays.
Would you start Bilal Powell over Peyton Barber?
Yes.
How about Marvin Jones over Peyton Barber?
Yes.
All right. There's no confidence in Barber. He has one catch on Jones over Peyton Barber? Yes. All right.
There's no confidence in Barber.
He has one catch on the year.
All right.
Yeah, he's thick.
So Marvin Jones or Godley?
Godwin.
Was that Ridley or Godwin?
Zach Godley.
Chris Godwin.
Godwin.
Godwin.
Yeah, I'll go Godwin.
Godwin or Sterling Shepard?
Shepard. Yep. Godwin or Sterling Shepard? Shepard
Yep
Godwin or Royce Freeman?
Godwin
Freeman and non-PPR, Godwin and PPR
OJ Howard or Trey Burton?
OJ Howard or Trey Burton in this game?
Howard
I think I have Burton higher
Burton
This is going to be a good game for Burton
It should be a good game for Burton.
It's a terrible defense he's facing, it seems, with three rookies in their secondary.
Tampa Bay allowed 94 yards to Zach Ertz in week two, and four catches for 112 yards and a touchdown to Vance McDonald in week three.
Most of it coming on that one big play.
All right, but they're both going to be starters this week, Burton and Howard.
Jordan Howard, like him, love him.
What do you think, Jordan Howard?
They're starting him.
Like him.
We're still waiting for that big breakout game from him.
150 yards, touchdown.
Yeah.
Just dominance.
Haven't quite seen that yet from Jordan Howard this year.
Is there any interest in Tariq Cohen?
Very little.
Not even for Kirk Cousins in a trade.
Tariq Cohen or Peyton Barber?
Barber, non-PPR, Cohen, PPR.
Yeah, yeah.
How do we feel about Alan Robinson this week?
Do you like him better or worse than Chris Godwin?
Better
Robinson over Godwin?
Yeah, it's a great matchup for him
They really struggle with number one receivers
They do
It might be a little bit of put up or shut up for him
Because he hasn't gotten in the end zone yet
He has just two catches of more than 20 yards
Robinson's averaging 11.4 yards per catch
That needs to be better
He has one great PPR game Three three not-so-great non-PPR games.
Right, single digits and non-PPR.
I've got him one spot ahead of Godwin, both of them one spot ahead of Boyd,
and I might change that depending on Brian Poole's availability.
He's not great to begin with, but if he's out, that's really good for Boyd.
And if you are desperate, you could look at Taylor Gabriel.
Gabriel is 4% owned and second on the team in targets,
and now Anthony Miller is out.
And the Bears' DST is top eight.
They're not top two this week or anything like that,
but they're really good.
It's not a great matchup for them.
Would you start the Packers or the Seahawks or something like that over the Bears?
Yes.
I would start the Packers over them. I would start the Bears over the Seahawks. something like that over the Bears? Yes. I would start the Packers over them.
I would start the Bears over the Seahawks.
Let's go to Philadelphia at Tennessee.
Philadelphia at Tennessee.
Why don't you like the Seahawks' defense?
I don't dislike them.
I think they're okay.
I just don't – I wouldn't get away from the Bears for them.
Something I forgot to mention.
No, you'd have to carry two defenses to do that.
All right. Is it going to be Philadelphia at Tennessee? two defenses to do that. Alright.
Is it going to be Philadelphia
at Tennessee?
Is it going to be Tampa Bay at Chicago?
It should be
the Giants, right? I mean, it should be.
But it won't be.
Alright, here we go.
Bengals, Falcons.
Bonanza!
Yeah! I can't believe he did that at the start of the week. All right, here we go. Bengals, Falcons, Bonanza. Yeah.
I can't believe you did that to the start of the week.
Might be.
By the way, just for everybody listening, Adam was, I'm going to call it, dancing in his chair.
I got really into that.
Swinging his arms like an old lady walking through the mall would swing her arms.
Yeah, that's true.
It was really kind of pathetic.
Giovanni Bernard, start of the week, bonanza time.
I will say, though, the last time we did this, we were successful.
Yes, yes.
Who was it again?
Jamie looks really, really nervous right now.
No, I'm confident in Gio.
Who was it?
It was two weeks ago?
It was Ben.
Oh, it was Ben Roethlisberger, right.
All right, Eagles and Titans, very tough game.
Already mentioned the stat of the game yesterday when we fake previewed this,
and that is that the state animal of Tennessee is the raccoon.
But which Eagles are you confident in starting other than Zach Ertz?
None.
Nope.
I kind of like Wentz.
I'd like him better if Alshon Jeffery didn't have an illness.
But if he's out there, and particularly if Ajayi is not out there,
I think it sets up really nicely for Carson Wentz to be leaned upon
and to put up some good numbers.
Titans' past defense has been shellacked this year.
They weren't last week.
But in weeks one and two, they absolutely were.
Would you guys go with Wentz or Wilson?
I have Wentz ahead of Wilson right now.
I have Wentz ahead of Wilson. Me too.
Wentz or Brady?
I'll take Wentz, but I'm the only one.
Brady. That's easy. Tom?
Okay.
Alright, Philadelphia running backs. Give me the skinny
Jamie.
If Ajayi plays, he's a low-end starting option.
If Ajayi does not play and Sproles is still out,
then Clement is a low-end starting option.
And then Wendell Smallwood becomes a flex play.
Clement will be a flex play if Ajayi plays and Sproles is out.
Okay, I'm satisfied with that.
What do you do about Nelson Aguilar, Alshon Jeffrey in this situation?
They're number three receivers, even if Jeffrey plays.
Well, what if Jeffrey doesn't play?
Because Tennessee, they've given up 100 yards to Stills, Hopkins, and Fuller so far.
They've given up some big plays.
If Jeffrey's out, do you guys like Nelson Aguilar? Who had
eight catches in weeks one and two? He was
terrible in week three. I think Aguilar
is a number three if Alshon doesn't
play. I don't want to play Aguilar
if Alshon plays. Right, right. But if he doesn't
play, if Jeffrey doesn't
play, Aguilar becomes worth
considering? I think
so because he'll line up outside a lot
more than if Alshon plays.
Because if he's in the slot, that means he'll see Logan Ryan.
He's done a nice job against slot receivers this year.
The real weakness in Tennessee is throwing against the outside corners.
Jackson's allowed some numbers.
Butler's been terrible.
Okay.
And then Zach Ertz is a must-start.
Dallas Goddard, if you're desperate, he's like 20th in the rankings.
Heath has him outside the top 24.
Start any Tennessee players?
They're DST.
I don't know if I love their DST.
They're DST.
No, I'm just kidding.
Okay.
No, there's no one to trust here.
There's somebody to watch for involvement in the passing game.
That's Taewon Taylor.
Yeah. That could
be a beat the waiver wire guy too.
Except they have Chargers next week
and the Chargers are very bad against the pass right
now. Right? There's just one
problem. Marcus Mariota is still the quarterback.
Maybe he'll be able
to feel one of his fingers this week. Yeah, I mean, this
game just feels ugly. The Titans have done a very good
job of just making things ugly the last two games.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Am I crazy?
They are playing the Chargers next week, right?
Tennessee.
No, they're at Buffalo.
That's what it was.
So if you mean the Buffalo Chargers, you're correct.
I knew it because Derek Carr was on the waiver wire,
beat the waiver wire to there at the Chargers.
Yeah, they play the Chargers in London in week seven.
Oh, Tennessee.
Okay, great.
So stash him for week seven.
If you had to choose one Tennessee running back, who would it be?
Lewis.
Derek Henry is a terrible matchup for Derek Henry.
This is a great run defense, 2.8 yards per carry to running backs.
Adam, you know that guy that calls us every Saturday and asks about his throwback team that he starts all the old players? Yeah, what is that? run defense, 2.8 yards per carry to running backs. Adam, you know that guy that calls us every Saturday
and asks about his throwback team that he starts all the old players?
Yeah, what is that?
It's so strange.
Can I take Chris Johnson here?
Eddie George, Chris Johnson, yes.
Is Travis Henry available?
Buffalo at Green Bay.
It's just really crazy that they've given Derek Henry 18 carries
each of the last two weeks, and he's done nothing with them.
Yeah. You have the one big play called
back in week one. I'm
flummoxed by Deion Lewis only having
four catches the last two weeks.
It's like they forgot what they've got.
Yeah, I feel like he could be okay in
PPR this week. Is anybody feeling that
with Deion Lewis?
That's the only format you could start him in
and feel somewhat safe about it.
Also, should we give Derrick Henry somewhat of a pass
as he's faced the Texans and the Jaguars the last two weeks?
Yeah, but, I mean, it's just the workload.
You would sign up before the season, 100%.
He's going to be a must-start play if he's getting 18 carries.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
All right. Anyway, let's move on.
Buffalo's at Green Bay. Stat of the game. According to mentalfloss. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. All right. Anyway, let's move on. Buffalo's at Green Bay.
Stat of the game.
According to mentalfloss.com, Green Bay is known as both Tidal Town and Toilet Paper Town.
So we should be calling them Toilet Paper Town.
Northern Tissue, precursor to Quilted Northern, invented the first splinter-free paper in the plant there.
Splinter-free paper.
That's toilet paper. That's toilet paper.
That's very strange.
I want you to think about that for a minute.
Yeah.
I want you to think about toilet paper before Quilted Northern and think about splinters in toilet paper.
Can they trade for Jake Butt?
Oh, very good.
Very good.
So any bills?
Just McCoy is low-end number two?
Low-end number three.
He's a flex.
Flex at best.
But he's the best running back in this game?
Yes.
That was a Jamie sigh.
I'm starting Josh Allen in a super flex league.
Okay.
That's fine.
There you go.
He runs.
He does.
Aaron Rodgers is not number one, not number two, not number three.
He's fourth for Heath.
He's sixth for Dave.
He's seventh for Jamie.
Most people are going to start Aaron Rodgers.
Would it be crazy to start Andy Dalton over Aaron Rodgers?
Yes.
Yeah, you can't do that.
Don't start.
He's at home coming off a loss.
I don't think it would be crazy, but I wouldn't do it.
It's an okay move in Daly.
Ben over Rodgers.
Yes.
I wouldn't do it.
Heath, you're so close to moving Ben ahead of Luck.
You're so close.
It's one little nudge up.
Yeah, I'm looking at the projections now.
It's 0.2 fantasy points is how close I am.
Wow.
You can't find a way to get Roethlisberger 0.3.
He doesn't want to.
Come on.
He's your guy.
You love Ben Roethlisberger.
Anyway.
I do love Ben Roethlisberger.
I'm guarding him.
I already did the start-o-meter for the Green Bay running backs, so they're not great starts.
Dave, I think, likes Williams the best.
Jamie and Heath like Aaron Jones better.
I have them ranked back-to-back, so it's flip a coin.
Okay. And then, yeah, all right.back, so it's flip a coin. Okay.
And then, yeah, all right.
So Devontae Adams is a must-start.
What about Randall Cobb?
What about Jermonimo Allison?
I like Cobb's matchup better than Allison's,
so I'd buy back into Cobb for one week.
I think Allison is the more exciting player,
and I think the Packers know it.
The targets don't show that, though.
The targets don't show it, but they might moving forward.
Because Cobb was really disappointing.
Allison is 62% owned, I believe.
67% owned.
You have to go get him.
It's just so stupid.
Him and Godwin, I just don't get it.
Yeah, I agree.
Would you start Allison over Doug Baldwin if Baldwin plays?
Yes.
Yep.
Okay. Would you start Allison over Larry Baldwin if Baldwin plays? Yes. Yep. Okay.
Would you start Allison over Larry Fitzgerald?
Yes.
I would not in PPR.
All right, then.
I think we're pretty much good here.
I mean, everybody's going to start Jimmy Graham, but do you think Graham is going to have a big game?
Define big game.
You can't think that.
You can hope that.
Does he score a touchdown?
Does he score a touchdown? Yeah. Does he score a touchdown? Does he score a touchdown?
Yeah, does he score a touchdown?
Take that away.
He doesn't score a touchdown.
And he's got 40, 50 yards max.
That's a decent game for a tight end right now.
A lot like Kyle Rudolph.
Yeah, and a lot like what Virgil Green and Kyle Rudolph did against Buffalo
each of the last two weeks, right around 50 yards.
Packers DST.
Heath is not buying into it.
This is not true again.
I have them number six.
Oh, I typoed?
Yes.
Oh, I'm very sorry about that.
Did you ever at one point have them 16th?
Last week.
Maybe I just copied and pasted.
No, I put a one there.
I'm sorry about that.
I've got them low.
Maybe you looked at my rankings and thought.
Oh, okay.
I have Davis having them eighth.
He has them 18th.
No.
Yeah.
You put the one in the wrong spot.
I put the one in the wrong spot.
So I'm sorry.
No, I shouldn't do that.
I'm sorry.
So Packers.
No, I don't think the Packers defense is very good.
It changes if Kevin King plays.
I think he gives them some good depth at corner.
But I don't think that they're a great defense.
I think Buffalo could be sneaky.
They can find ways to put points up.
In Lambeau Field, back-to-back road games for them,
this is going to be a beating.
Give me two minutes on this Seattle-Arizona game.
We already talked about Chris Carson.
Good start this week.
We like him a lot.
I think I already asked Chris Carson or a lot of guys.
Chris Carson or Sterling Shepard?
Shepard.
Carson, non-PPR, Shepard, PPR.
Russell Wilson, start or sit?
Sit if you can.
Sit.
Yeah, sit.
Sit him.
I just picked him up in one league as a backup to Patrick Holmes.
He was on the waiver wire.
He was on the waiver wire.
All right, what are you doing about Doug Baldwin and Tyler Lockett?
You're starting Lockett.
He's just high upside flex, and he's scored each of the last three weeks.
You're starting him if Baldwin plays?
Yeah, I'm starting him if Baldwin plays.
If Baldwin plays, I probably won't start any of the Seahawks receivers.
I think at best, Lockett's still a number three receiver just because the position's so loaded.
But yes, you could start him, and he would be downgraded if Baldwin's out there.
I mean, if Baldwin doesn't play, do you—you know, if Baldwin doesn't play—
like, I looked at Lockett last week going up against a tough matchup against the Cowboys
who hadn't allowed more than 51 yards to a receiver in their first two games,
and that included Odell Beckham.
And then he went and had like 77 yards and a touchdown.
Yeah, I think that was a little misleading, though.
He caught a pass on the sideline at like the 40-yard line,
and then there were just no Dallas Cowboys between him and the end zone.
That's true.
But if anyone's going to catch it, it's probably going to be him.
He's going to score a touchdown.
It's probably going to be him. And all going to score a touchdown. It's probably going to be him.
And all I'm saying is it is another tough matchup.
Arizona's been good against wide receivers.
No wide receiver has scored a touchdown against the Cardinals.
The Rams guys had big games, but they didn't score a touchdown.
Right.
And then the other games were against Washington, whose receivers are a mess,
and Chicago, whose quarterback is not perfect.
Yeah, but Allen Robinson did not have more than 50 yards.
So I guess if Baldwin doesn't play, which is a distinct possibility, Lockett is what if Baldwin's out?
About 30 or so.
Fine.
Great way to put it.
A great flex.
High upside.
A little bit of boom or bust to him, but he's been booming.
Rank these three players.
Ben Watson, Will Disley, Rhett Ellison.
Watson, Ellison, Disley.
Yep.
Watson, Disley, Ellison.
Anyone other than David Johnson for the Cardinals?
Christian Kirk is interesting based on the targets last week.
And I can't help but think that they'll be a little bit better with Josh Rosen under center than what they got out of Sam Bradford
in his five yards per pass attempt.
Can't start anybody with confidence.
I mean, hopefully Fitzgerald's hamstring is right,
but he's been in and out of practice, so that hurts him.
It's just tough right now.
I don't think the Arizona defense is horrible.
Okay, and the Seahawks defense, Heath has them 11th,
and Dave and Jamie
have them third.
So how about that?
They should be awesome.
Get ready for a mailbag, baby.
We got the mailbag coming up.
It's the Saturday show.
It records on Friday afternoon.
We'll hopefully update you
on some injuries
and answer your questions.
I know we have a Le'Veon Bell
keeper question in there,
so we'll get to that.
And maybe some great to trade
and start and sit
and all that stuff. And we'll talk to saturday night for the radio show sunday morning
as well watch jamie anything yeah yeah one more game gotta go bye bye jamie bye heath and dave
what do you have to say for yourself oh you tricked me